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viewers, 3.5 million in people age 25 to 34, that prize segment. total number of viewers topped not just fox cable competition but all the broadcast networks. >> basically, we crushed it. post debate, democrats pounce on trump's election results answer. newly revealed e-mails bring new questions about the clinton foundation. hillary clinton's influence to bring in money. this is "special report." we are coming tonight live from america's election headquarters in new york. good evening. explosive reaction from all sides tonight to the most watched third presidential debate ever. more than 72 million americans tuned in. much of the reaction focuses on one answer in a debate filled with substantive back and forth. we will get to that in a moment.
first, new scrutiny tonight on the clinton foundation. coming from what were supposed to be private e-mails. how much money and how much influence were on the table in dealings involving the clinton family charity? how much did hillary clinton play a role as secretary of state? chief national correspondent ed henry has tonight's top story. >> reporter: we have heard about the former president bill clinton getting a $1 million check for that foundation from qat qatar. we wican tie hillary clinton to larger check. as hillary clinton dodged a question at the final presidential debate about charges of pay to play at the clinton foundation, a wikileaks e-mail showed the candidate herself lined up a $12 million commitment from the king of more rop ro morocco. she created this mess and she knows it. the mess refers to clinton initially agreeing to speak at a
may 2015 clinton global initiative event in morocco. a $1 million contribution might stoke more controversy. the contribution was actually far bigger, $12 million according to the e-mail. responding to top aides, they were worried it would harm the april 2015 launch of the former secretary of state's campaign. mook writing, came up on our call with hrc. john flagged the same issues we discussed. hrc said she's still considering. the condition upon which the moroccans agreed to host the meeting was her participation. this was hrc's idea. our office approached the moroccans and they 100% believe they are doing this at her request. the king has personally committed approximately $12 million. in 2011, clinton state department charged the moroccan government was behind ar trarry
arrests and corruption. in last night donald trump demanded clinton give back large contributions from countries with questionable human rights records. >> criminal enterprise. >> clinton did not answer that and ducked a question from chris wall did t wallace. >> everything i did as secretary of state was in furthering our country's interests and our values. >> reporter: the moroccan event was led by bill and chelsea while hillary clinton skipped it. even though abedin warned. >> when you are in a sausage factory, it doesn't always look so good. >> reporter: the focus should be on the good works of the clinton foundation, fighting aids around the world. it should not be taken too literally. >> a couple other interesting e-mails as well. >> differe >> reporter: different batches.
the then secretary wrote to general petraeus she had blues about not being able to use her blackberry inside her secure office. these are e-mails recovered by the fbi that were not turned over initially. if you need something from me, use my personal e-mail address. then wikileaks had an e-mail from doug band. he writes to john podesta he was frustrated about being forced to sign a document guarding against documents. also he charges bill clinton gets many expensive gifts from those same sponsors, very interesting revelation tonight. >> we will continue to follow it. donald trump still taking major criticism tonight for his refusal to say in the debate that he will actually accept the results of next month's election, at least right away. trump clarified today. he clearly was the most talked
about and written about line of a debate that started out full of policy discussions and ended up getting pretty personal. we have fox team coverage. jennifer griffin is in new york with reaction from the clinton team. we begin with carl cameron in las vegas tonight as the republican nominee enters the home stretch of the this campaign. good evening. >> reporter: donald trump in ohio today made light of his controversial remark last night that he may not accept the results of the election if he loses. >> i want to make a major announcement today. i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. >> reporter: trump ignited a firestorm of criticism, suggesting if clinton wins, it would be because the u.s.
election was rigged and illegitimate. >> what i'm saying is that i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspension. >> reporter: after joking about it, he explained what he meant citing the 2000 recount. >> if al gore or george bush agreed to concede the results and waive their right to a legal challenge or recount, then there would be no supreme court case and no gore versus bush or bush versus gore. of course, i would accept a clear election result. but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. >> reporter: the final debate was the most policy laden of the year. trump was strong for 30 minutes, hammering clinton as protecting second amendment gun rights and partial birth abortions. >> base on where she has been and where she is going, you can
take the baby and rip it out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day. that's not acceptable. >> reporter: there was plenty of name calling. >> he choked. >> a nasty woman. she's been proven to be a liar. >> it shows you are not up to doing the job. >> reporter: trump argued that rising insurance costs for obamacare will make it easier to repeal. >> it will go up over 100%. i'm glad that the premiums have started at least the people see what's happening. >> reporter: his description of illegal immigrants drew gasps from the audience. >> we have bad hombres here. we will get them out. >> reporter: trump claimed the women accusing him of gloroping him are all liars. in new york, another woman stepped forward to accuse him. >> his hand touched the right inside of my breast. don't you know who i am? that's what he said to me.
i felt intimidated and i felt powerless. >> reporter: it fell to the trump communications deputy director to give the response. it was a denial saying, quote, voters are tie tired of these circus-like antics and reject the fictional stories and the clear efforts to benefit hillary clinton. >> carl cameron in las vegas. thank you. of all three debates, last night's was perhaps the best illustration of the differences between the two candidates. that rhetoric continued today on the campaign trail. president obama took direct aim at the republican nominee. >> donald trump has nothing to offer but anger and grievance and blame. and so his closing argument asks, what do you have to lose. well i'm here to tell you, everything. >> fox news correspondent jennifer griffin is here in new york tonight. good evening.
>> reporter: good evening. we're here in front of the wall door astoria hotel where not long from now, both donald trump and hillary clinton will participate in what has become a political tradition in this country that has -- that now represents political civility. the alfred e. smith dinner. it will benefit catholic charities and hopefully serve as a humorous relief at last night's heated debate. after clinton's strong performance last night, her team smelled blood in the water. they followed her lead and ramped up their attacks on donald trump downplaying russia's role in the e-mail hacking. >> then he said as a major party candidate, for the world to hear, playing into the hands of putin, that our country has no idea. can you fathom any presidential candidate ever, ever having said
that? >> we have to send a message to russia or any other nation, don't think you can come into our country and mess around with an american election. no way. >> reporter: it was clinton's jab at trump over putin that irked her opponent. >> everything i see has no respect for this person. >> well that's because he would rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet. >> it's pretty clear -- >> you are the puppet. >> it's clear you won't admit -- >> reporter: clinton opened with a strong appeal to her base. >> i will defend roe versus wade and women's rights to make their own healthcare decisions. i do not think the united states government should step in and make those most personal of decisions. >> reporter: clinton would not acknowledge paid democratic operatives may have paid people to stir up violence at trump rallies as exposed in this undercover video. >> are you worried about --
>> are you worried -- >> if they are found to have -- >> i know nothing about this. i can't deal with every one of his conspiracy theories. >> reporter: clinton argued trump doesn't have judgment or character to be trusted with security. >> the bottom line on nuclear weapons is that when the president gives the order, it must be followed. there's about four minutes between the order being given and the people responsible for launching nuclear weapons to do so. >> reporter: former defense secretaries have made similar comments, clinton's critics accused her of sharing sensitive information about u.s. nuclear weapons capabilities in public. two senior defense officials reached by fox news tonight say they highly doubt that hillary clinton as secretary of state was read into the nuclear codes or the nuclear timetable. they think it was more an estimation as opposed to a classified number. that she revealed last night. they point out that there have
been many open source references to the four minute window in recent publications, including foreign policy. >> jennifer, should be an interesting dinner, with all the talk about catholics in the election. thank you. no matter how good democrats are feeling tonight about hillary clinton's prospects, there is no denying the party is taking a major ethical hit this week with the revelations and allegations of dirty tricks against the trump campaign. this comes on top of accusations that officials with the democratic national committee worked for clinton and against bernie sanders. this evening, james rosen looks at what it all means. >> reporter: never before have the inner workings of the campaign been laid bare. never before has the democratic national committee suffered such profound reputational damage. >> and i hit donald trump's
representatives with those. >> i don't play dodge ball. i play basketball. >> reporter: pressed after wednesday's debate, donna brazile struggled to explain a march e-mail in which she funded to the campaign a question posed to hillary clinton the following night at a cnn tv one town hall event. braz brazile was dnc vice chair at the time. >> you have the wikileaks release showing you messaging the clinton campaign with the exact wording of a question asked at the march 13 cnn town hall debate. where did you get it? >> you know, as a christian woman i understand persecution. i will not sit here and be persecution. your information is false. >> i'm getting it from podesta's e-mail. >> podesta's e-mails were stolen. you are so interested in talking about stole -- >> you deny it. >> you are like a thief that want to bring into the night the things that you found that was in the gutter. >> reporter: donald trump not
always a fan of megyn kelly cited the interview as evidence of brazile corruption. >> she looked like a fool trying to say, well -- she didn't know what was going on. she had no idea. she should resign. how can a woman do that? that is cheating at the highest level. >> reporter: brazile became party chair in july after wikileaks released dnc e-mails that forced the s rresignation wasserman. >> the stories have been almost universally bad. it's almost always colored by the fact that we know so much about the inner workings and motivation of some of the top operatives there. >> reporter: the dnc had to receive esev sever a contract.
donna brazile said knowledge of such practices. >> before we let you go, congratulations to you on the success of your new book which is now we're told in its sixth printing. enjoying its second week on "the new york times" best seller list. it's called "a torch kept lit, great lives of the 20th century". the later is william f. buckley junior. tell us about that. you have told our people but you haven't told the "special report" audience. >> reporter: i edited this volume. it collects 50 eulogies that bill buckley delivered or published across his career. these are heart felt and often emotionally shattering profiles of the great and sometimes evil figures of buckley's time, most of whom he knew personally from ronald reagan and john lennon to johnny carson. you, sir, are very kind to mention it. >> of course. thanks. perhaps the most used word this presidential election
cycle, rigged. donald trump says it's happening. hillary clinton and others say it doesn't happen or not in great numbers. tonight we look at at fairness in the election. >> reporter: if donald trump loses the election in 19 days, he says it will be the result of dirty tricks by democrats at poling places. >> 1.8 million people who are dead who are registered to vote. some of them vote. one was a republican and after death became a democrat. >> reporter: some experts say it's not dead people they worry about most. it's people voting before they become citizens. >> one of the biggest vulnerabilities also is the fact that while it's illegal for non-citizens to register and vote, it's really an honor system. >> reporter: in 2013, the new york city department of investigation sent undercover officers to polling places to try to vote at dead people or felons or people who don't live
in the right district. it worked about 97% of the time according to a report by the national review. aside from undercover officers, illegal in person voting appears to be far more rare. a law school study looked at 1 billion ballots cast between 2000 and 2014 and found in-person fraud just 31 times. >> if you look statistically, it's more likely that a person in the united states will be struck by lightning than that we will experience in-person voter fraud at the poll on election day. >> reporter: a bigger problem are improperly mailed ballots. 943,000 of those were rejected in 2012 alone. the trump campaign still wants to mobilize supporters to monitor polling places in person, in swing states for any sign of funny business on november 8. >> you can ask the board every hour how many republicans, how many democrats, how many independents. keep a track of it. you just watch what's going on. >> reporter: this afternoon,
pennsylvania's secretary of state said there's nothing to worry about. >> to imply fraud is rampant at any level from the precinct to a city or state is without merit. >> reporter: the worry some trump critics is that voters may stay home because they don't want to risk getting hassled with the goal of helping trump win. >> peter, thank you. let's get thoughts from charles krauthammer. he joins us from washington. we heard your comments last night after the debate about this whole rigged comment. there's a lot of fallout back and forth today. here is what rush limbaugh said. >> there isn't anybody who thinks donald trump doesn't respect the traditions of america. or american elections. there isn't a soul out there -- this is people trying to convince low information voters and others who aren't paying
attention that donald trump is some alien from outer space who wants to blow up the greatest traditions of american elections and politics and so forth. >> charles, your thoughts? >> well, if he just said i will wait until election night before deciding if the election is a legitimate one, that would be one thing. leading up to this, for days he has been telling rallies, this election is precooked, it's rigged, it's unfair and it's about to be stolen from us. now, when you say that and you couple it with, i won't know what i will do, i will figure it out at the time, then you have a threat to the tradition, which is unless there's some extraordinary circumstance, like 2000 where the election hung on one state and it was millions of votes and the difference was in the hundreds or dozens, which has happened once in our
history, unless you have that extraordinary circumstance, of course, we will accept the election. you have had elections stolen here and there. lyndon jojohnson, that was a stolen election. there's questions about the nixon loss in 1960, stealing texas and chicago. yes, but, the idea of a national election stolen which would require an enormous conspiracy, which, of course, trump is also invoking, a global conspiracy involving the banks, democrats and who knows who else. to rig an american election, it's not plausible. he has not presented any facts. he is shaking a fundamental principal of our democracy, which is the peaceful transition which requires the open recognition of the legitimacy of an election by the loser. that is something that he obviously threatened.
>> charles, as always, thank you, sir. up next, how president obama is trying to save obamacare. and how an idea once dismissed is making a return now. first here is what some of our affiliates around the country are covering tonight. charlotte, as early voting begins in north carolina. at least one site is open in each of the state's 100 counties. early voting continues through november 5. portland, oregon, three firefighters and two police officers are injured in a natural gas explosion. they are said to be doing well. they are being credited with saving lives by clearing that area before the blast. the explosion occurred wednesday after construction workers cut a three-quarter inch natural gas line. this is a live look at chicago. one of the big stories there tonight, the teachers unions house of delegates approved the new four-year contract that averted a strike. it calls for cost of living increases, does not require educators to pay more toward
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in trump world. so i'm crossing party lines and voting for hillary. i don't always agree with her, but she's reasonable. and she's smart. she can work with people to solve problems. i want to be able to tell my kids that i did the right thing when it really mattered. i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message.
we are less than two weeks away from the start of the next obamacare open enrollment period. the president's signature health care law may be on life support tonight. kevin cork is at the white house with what happens next. >> reporter: it's very interesting right now. critics you have heard them say, if it's too good to be true, if it sounds too good to be true, it certainly is. that's what them are saying about this so-called public option as another way to fix the ailing obamacare. the president has been talking about this public option. it's one way that a government
health care plan could compete with private health insurance carriers by offering comparable coverage at lower costs for consumers. he added today in a speech in miami, florida, that expanding medicaid would strength this. getting more people to sign up would be good. a adding a public option would be encouraging. not listed among the fix it ideas, repeal and replace obamacare. which the president said would only make matters worse. >> repealing the affordable care act will not work. that's a bad idea. that will not -- that will not solve the problem. because right off the bat, repeal would take away healthcare from 20 million people. >> reporter: obviously, there is some much more than just a few bumps along this road to so-called health care nir have a na. people are reminding people, remember what the president said about obamacare in 2010?
a lot of the things he said back then didn't come true. you remember you can keep your doctor? they are convinced this is another case of bait and switch. >> we need proven solutions that can deliver affordable coverage. a public option simply isn't one of those solutions. it doesn't work for consumers. it doesn't work for employers or hospitals or especially hard working taxpayers. >> reporter: any changes to the affordable care act will obviously fall on the next occupant of 1600 pennsylvania avenue and the next congress. as for the candidates, hillary clinton and donald trump both say there are problems with obamacare. hillary clinton wants to fix it. donald trump says he wants to repeal and replace it. don't forget the enrollment period begins november 1. >> the public option push is happening in ernest. kevin cork live on the north lawn. thank you. the environmental protection agency should have issued an emergency order over the flint
water crisis seven months earlier than it. it says the agency had the authority and the information to issue the order as early as june of 2015. stocks were down today. the dow dropped 40, the s&p lost 3, the nasdaq was down 5. tonight, a look at the e-mail that started the c controversy over whether of hillary clinton's top state department officials tried to get the fbi to change the classification of one of the e-mails that went through the secretary's private unsecured server. good evening. >> reporter: a 2012 clinton e-mail about suspected in the benghazi terrorist attack is at the heart of backroom deal allegations about a senior state department executive. this is a significant document. the same e-mail kick started the fbi probe into secretary clinton's use of a personal server for government business and the mishandling of classified information.
the november 18, 2012 e-mail with the subject line forward, fyi reports of arrest, possible benghazi connection, contained classified information. sections here are redacted citing confidential sources as well as foreign and law enforcement activity. fbi summaries report that patrick kennedy, a lieutenant to secretary clinton, wanted to deep six the benghazi e-mail and apply a classification code that would allow him to archive it in the state department basement in exchange the fbi would get slots for agents overseas. in the end, neither happened. today the state department cast doubt on the competency of fbi investigators as well as the accuracy of the fbi interviews. is the state department's position that the fbi interviews contain errors? >> there are notes. they are not facts. they are not conclusions. >> reporter: why was patrick kennedy working so hard to bury this e-mail? >> i can't speak for recollections here.
>> reporter: republican lawmakers believe kennedy was going to the mat over the e-mail to blunt the fbi case. >> it's going to take months to try to untangle this. when you have the fbi themselves say that there was a quid pro quo negotiation that was going on to manipulate the classification of documents, that goes to the highest degree. >> reporter: the republican chairman of the house judiciary committee has asked the attorney general loretta lynch to investigate kennedy for possible violations of public corruption laws. >> thank you. the u.s. military says north korea's latest attempt to launch a ballistic missile has failed. it's the second unsuccessful effort in five days. a senior u.s. official tells fox the missile exploded shortly after launch. today defense secretary ash carter, while meeting with his south korean counterpart, con
departmented the attem democrat -- condemned this. an american service member died from wounds sustained while embedded with kurdish forces. trying to retake mosul from isis. two u.s. officials tell fox news the service member's atv ran over a bomb. iraqi special forces are taking a lead role in that operation. we are already hearing new stories of horror of this war. benjamin hull is in irbeale tonight. >> reporter: this is the suicide truck bomb seen here driving toward kurdish fighters. it dodged one anti-tank missile and avoids machine gunfire before finally being stopped. one vehicle made it through. no official word if the attack killed or injured. the battle for mosul continues to rage here in northern iraq. village by village, iraqi and
kurdish battalions moved forward. the resistance is growing stronger. air strikes meant to soften isis targets opened defensivdefensiv. despite the bombardment, isis emerged from the shadows, tunnels below ground. the prime minister said the battle was ahead of schedule. >> translator: the fighting forces are pushing forward towards the town more quickly than we thought and more quickly certainly than we had established in our plan of campaign. >> reporter: isis also releasing their own videos. this one showing militants south of mosul vowing to fight until the death and repeating an oath of allegiance to their leader. today fox news spoke to families who had recently escaped from isis inside mosul. now living in refugee camps, most fled with nothing. many have lost families. this lady escaped only yesterday. she broke down in tears as she
told us how isis forced her to watch men in cages then drowned alive. others told us isis was strong inside mosul, how they are taken everything from the people and they appeared everywhere out of tunnels. we heard how some isis fight her been hiding among refugees. that wasn't many of them. the vast majority remain in mosul waiting for the final battle. >> benjamin, thank you. the debates are over. the campaigns are coming down to the final stretch. we will talk about where we stand right now. the panel joins me here in new york after a quick break. when you have a cold, you just want powerful relief.
presidential election if i win. of course, i would accept a clear election result. but i would also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. >> you know, it was horrifying what he said. we have had hot, contested elections going back to the very beginning. but one of our hallmarks has always been that we accept the outcomes of our elections. >> live from the debate that got the most coverage. let's bring in our panel here in new york. daniel harper of the new york post, lisa booth, with the washington skcexamine, kaylen bs and william mcgurrin. bill, your thoughts on the
statement but then the reaction to it? it was almost -- >> look, it didn't help him by making this. we all knew they were going to jump on it. it was similar to his comment to you about the republican primary. we have an editorial tonight about the reaction here, the smelling salts that people are calling for. it has become an article of faith in the democratic party since 2000 that bush stole the 2000 election and the 2004 election. there's a lot of sort of faux outrage about this. >> hillary clinton herself had different fund-raiser after 2000 and questioned the results of the election. obviously, it's a different scenario. it was interesting to see the reaction today. >> there's hypocrisy there. i think donald trump is missing the opportunity. the system is rigged. but not exactly the way he is describing it. all he needs to do is point to the fact that we have a state department official allegedly suggesting a quid pro quo with
the fbi, the fact that we have got the department of justice including with the clinton campaign, giving them inside information, the fact we have the attorney general of the nation's top law enforcement meeting with bill clinton during an investigation. the biggest problem for donald trump with all of this is the fact that this represents his biggest obstacle. it's the fact that he derived the wrong lessons from the primary. he got $2 billion of free earned media from the primary. now he has gotten away, because he never belt an organized campaign infrastructure to get his message out. clinton is beating him two times the amount of money on radio, tv and cable. her allies are beating him three times as much. he doesn't have an infrastructure to get his message out. he is not able to break through the mainstream media and break through the noise. >> that's the question. could he have debate performance that changed the dynamic? the consensus is that while he performed pretty well as far as the debates, minus the one sentence that got a lot of
attention, he likely didn't change the die nattic? >> i don't think he changed the dynamic. i think he has the potential to hurt some of the down ballot candidates now. i think the path for donald trump to the presidency is so narrow that republicans are hoping that at least he can close the gap a little bit, not necessarily win but close it enough to kind of help lift some of these candidates down ballot. what he said at the debate on the debate stage is really the campaign in a nutshell. he has presented time after time with dozens of opportunities to go after hillary clinton to make his case to the american people, and it's always one line, but a very significant line, that democrats i think rightfully are going on this. >> a lot of things happened in that debate. it was substantive for a lot of it. one of them was an answer by hillary clinton about the clinton foundation, a question and answer about that. take a listen. >> everything i did as secretary of state was in furthering of
our country's interests and our values. the state department has said that. i think that's been proven. but i am happy -- in fact, i'm thrilled to talk about the clinton foundation. because it is a world renounced charity. and i am so proud of the work that it does. >> secretary clinton, respectfully, this is an open discussion. >> it is an open discussion. >> i understand. the question went to pay for play. do you want to talk -- >> there's no evidence. there is a lot of evidence about the very good work -- >> that's a criminal enterprise -- >> let mr. trump -- >> it's a criminal enterprise. >> okay. there you go. today, wikileaks in these e-mails suggests there's much more to this and to the money. henry's report tonight about what's inside the e-mails. >> tons more. there's a big relationship between these people who got special treatment at the state department and have donated to
the clinton foundation or paid for speeches to bill clinton. going back to donald trump and this whole statement about -- i think the problem is he is coming across as a victim. i think playing the victim card just isn't good enough. he needs to be a strong leader. he needs to be somebody who shoshow shows aspiration. playing the victim card is the message he shouldn't put forward. that's hurting him. >> is the down ballot the concern for republicans? >> i think it's been a concern from the start. i would say, donald trump, i agree, missed a lot of opportunities. the one that just screamed out to me is when mrs. clinton was talking about putin. who put all the secrets right out on the table like putting a steak out there for a hungry dog for the russians to hack into? that said, the press hasn't been that interested in mrs.
clinton's e-mails at all. i'm not sure even if he didn't make this comment about that that they wouldn't have latched on to something else, maybe one much his comments about the women. no one seems to be interested in mrs. clinton's e-mails. it's sort of as though people have accepted what difference at this point does it make. >> i think it's more so that this is very uncharted territory, the fact that we have hacked e-mails that the u.s. intelligence officials have said have been hacked by russians. i think it's the headline -- if the headline wasn't the idea that donald trump thinks the election is rigged, i think the other headline would have been that donald trump is dismissing the intelligence community and information coming from that. i think that's where she made the strategic case of getting the attention away from her and the controversies involved. >> the substance inside is a different thing than what -- you know, i was expecting -- when she said 17 intelligence agent sigs arou -- agencies say for him to say
17 said there were iraqis weapons of mass destruction and you voted for the war. he didn't say that. >> no. but that's the problem. the media hasn't been interested in any of the information surrounding hillary clinton. >> some media. >> some of it. if you look at the media research center, you have nbc, cbs and abc had spent seven hours and 30 minutes dedicated to the women coming forward and the allegations regarding donald trump and women. an hour plus to the wikileaks information. i think no matter what donald trump said yesterday -- he didn't take advantage of all the opportunities he should have. no matter what, the headlines would be negative for him. back to my original point, the problem for him is he never built the nuts and bolts of an actual presidential operation. he can't cut through -- >> you are saying it's over? he can't turn it around? >> i don't know how he gets his message out without having the money, without the infrastructure built to break through this noise, to break through the mainstream media and get his message out?
>> do you think the polls are accurate where they are? >> all of the data points to her leading and pretty significantly. he needs to change the momentum, needs to change the race. he hasn't done that. i think -- when you talk to people who work for trump, you get a sense that they're not so enthusiastic, not about trump, they are about that, but that they themselves aren't convinced he is going to win. i think people catch on to that. these statements by donald trump about discrediting election results play to that point. this is not a man who believes he is going to win. >> we will see. next up, is obamacare on life support? we will take a look.
the problems that may have arisen from the affordable care act is not because government's too involved in the process. the problem is that we have not reached everybody and pulled them in. it may be that the economics of it just don't work unless the government is providing an option to make it affordable. if no private ensurers are providing, then the government will step in. >> that's president obama talking about his health care law and what needs to be changed in his words. that is the public option, making a comeback. that was talked about and dismissed when it was put together. this as we get new stats about obamacare. the cbo estimates that it's going to cost net cost of the federal government, $220 billion from 2014 to 2016. over the next ten years, the projected net cost $1.4 trillion. there are at least 1.4 million
people that will lose their plan coming soon because they are some of those groups and organizations, the companies are pulling out of the states. it could mean that obamacare shrinks in size. enrollment next year range from 8% decline to 4% gain. alabama, alaska, oak oceklahoma wyoming, single ensurers. others have seen it diminish. what about the state of obamacare? >> no surprise. even the architects knew that. this was a redistribution. this was always a big government program which doesn't work. it means less competition despite all the call for marketplaces and so forth and competitive pressures. less competition. the answer is bigger government and more government.
which is going to make it worse. this is how these things work. >> for hillary clinton she goes down the public option road and says this is the solution? >> she has to. she may have the senate. she may have the house. that's further -- that's more of a stretch. she may have a lot of capital to do it. she's wanted it for a long time. he compared his legislation to a samsung galaxy 7 which isoding. he said, you don't get rid of the phone -- you don't go back to rotary if your phone starts exploding. for him to make that concession and that really compared to -- >> exploding phones. >> it's remarkable. it go to show something will have to change no matter who is president. trump says he will repeal. hillary will go toward single payer option.
>> if we lose, who knows what's going to happen with this healthcare law. >> this is an example of a situation where you talk to republicans. this is the issue that they want to talk about this week, last week, open enrollment is coming up. that's why the president went down there. they see this as a huge opening to help elect your point republicans down the ballot to make these changes. they have proposed a few things. they voted on things in the house as we know. they haven't been able to pass changes to this, big changes. >> of course the former president, we remember him weighing in. it's been a focus. >> you are getting killed in the deal. small business people and individuals who make just a little too much to get any of the subsidies. you have this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people are out there busting
it sometimes 60 hours a week wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. >> don't think they would like to call it crazy. >> probably not. what's interesting is that obamacare lobbyists are saying a public option would be a disaster. let's be clear. obamacare is a policy disaster. it's foolish to push for a public option. it's a disaster for the reasons bill clinton stated and it's premiums increase as well as deductibles skyrocketing. it's a disaster politically it's a disaster. look, the obamacare was politically poisonous for democrats in 20132014 as well. you are reigniting this debate not only this election cycle but 2018 when democrats are defending 25 seats and four of which are in red states that president obama lost in 2008 and 2012.
you are just asking to reignite that debate. >> bill, do republicans have the alternative yet? you know, paul ryan was working on getting one. but he couldn't herd the cats around one plan. >> part of that is because he didn't have the person at the top of that ballot leading the charge. >> r. there are lots of different ways to do that. what's going to be interesting if mrs. clinton wins and she guessed democratic house, i think she is going to have a hard time going to the public option. a lot of those guy are going to say that's what cost our seats last time. she is going to be in a real problem because obamacare is going to get worse. the solution that she is campaigning on is going to be very, very politically difficult for her fellow democrats to swallow. >> and is the solution from a republican point of view the incrossed marketplaces, the cross border, you know, insurance across state lines? >> certainly. that's obviously not going to be enough either. it's not politically feasible to start kicking
people off if they have obamacare. they have health insurance and you start taking that away from people, that's politically disastrous as well. republicans are in a real bind. you have to give it to president obama. obamacare is really smart. now the point everybody agrees it's exploding and you have to do something with it and i mean the public option is -- this is going to be the fight for the next five years and it's coming. >> if clinton does get a -- let's just say sweeps the whole thing, what's the one thing she pushes first. >> she has talked about doing immigration reform in the first 100 days, i believe. and, you know, i think there are also lessons, of course though to be learned about a president with a majority in congress. obamacare is the prime example. president obama passed one of his first initiatives. passed that with no republican support. i think that is a lesson to anyone who is president that you have to pass these bills with support from the other party. get that buy-in. that's why it was so hard for him to sell this and also to sell when it was
having trouble. >> we will see. 19 days. it's a long time in politics. panel, thank you very much. a different kind of focus group analyzing last night's debate. guess what guys, i switched to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference in reliability of each other. and, sprint saves you 50% on most current national carrier rates. save money on your phone bill, invest it in your small business. wouldn't you love more customers? i would definitely love some new customers.
finally tonight, the tee baits are over. and for each one, different media organizations put together different focus groups for post debate analysis. well, late night tv had a different approach to the focus group makeup. >> what vegetable do the candidates remind you of? >> he reminds me of carrots. that's what i said. >> i would have to say carrot. spicy alone. >> do you think you would be a good president. >> i would rather not be because it would be a hard job. >> what kind of job do you want to have? >> sort of easy job. >> what's an easy job? >> broadway. oh, i love broadway. >> thanks for inviting us into your home tonight.
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