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bill: we'll do a flashy debut for studio. martha: it is fantastic. can't wait for you at home to see it. bill: big reveal on election night. martha: we'll be here until the big day as far as we know at this point. take t weekend off. you too. we'll see you monday. jon: we're awaiting a big rally by donald trump as he fights to regain ground lost to hillary clinton just 2 1/2 weeks before americans make their final decision at ballot box. hello, happy friday. welcome to "happening now." i'm jon scott. rosanna: i'm jenna lee. the pair were shaking hands at al smith charity dinner in new york. after three bruising debates the
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gloves were laced up. candidates usually play nice for this occasion. not completely this year. >> as you already heard. it's a treat for all of you too, because usually i charge a lot for speeches like this. donald look as the statue of liberty and sees a four. [laughter]. maybe a five, if she loses the torch and tablet and changes her hair. >> you know last night, i called hillary a nasty woman but this stuff is all relative. after listening to hillary rattle on and on and on and on. i don't think so badly of rosie o'donnell anymore. michelle obama, gives a speech and everyone loves it. it is fantastic. they think she's absolutely great.
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my wife melania gives the exact same speech -- [laughter] [applause] and people get on her case. jenna: being good sport with all that. fox team coverage, is covering clinton campaign from the swing state of ohio. we begin with peter doocy watching donald trump live from trump towers here in new york city. peter? reporter: jenna we heard from cardinal timothy dolan who was sitting between trump and clinton on stage last night a surprising moment, something both of us would not have expected to hear, at one point dolan says, trump leaned over to clinton and said this, quote, you are one tough and talented woman. this has been a good experience in this whole campaign, as tough as it's been. clinton's reply as dolan remembers it, went like this. donald, whatever happens we need to work together afterwards. dolan said that was a nice
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moment. a much different tone than he had earlier in the week when he urged hillary clinton to distance herself from comment some of her campaign staff made that were hostile to catholics an revealed by wikileaks. that is something trump touched on during his come my routine last night. >> hillary believes it is vital to deceive the people by having one public policy and a totally different policy in private. that's okay. i don't know who they're angry at, hillary, you or i. for example, here she is tonight, in public pretending not to hate catholics. reporter: so, once nominees were at the mic their tone changed apparently what they said to each other privately. hillary clinton also used her time to touch on some of the controversies that trump has been stirring up.
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>> but speaking of health, donald has been very concerned about mine, very concerned. he actually sent a car to bring me here tonight. actually it was a hearse. reporter: today trump out of the tux. back in campaign trail. three swing state rallies, one in north carolina and two in pennsylvania. jenna: in the rain here in new york city, peter, thank you. jon: hillary clinton heading back to the campaign trail in ohio today after a long pause for the debate as her surrogate fan out across other key battleground states with 18 days until voters head to the polls. some are already voting and by mail. rich edson live in cleveland with the latest. rich? reporter: good morning, jon. it is the biggest story around here, the indians are in the world series. next to that this is a swing state. every four years the nation's politicians stop by cleveland in ohio. that is the case with hillary clinton this afternoon.
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she will be at cuyahoga community college. she will be at early voting event. voting started here in the state of ohio. cuyahoga county contains the city of cleveland. it is most democratic part of the state. it has 10% of the population. the goal for the clinton campaign to get as many folks to show up to offset any gains donald trump is making elsewhere in the state. it as close as it can be according to a new suffolk university poll, showing that hillary clinton and donald trump are tied at 45%. about a month ago it was a 3 percentage point lead for donald trump. just a reminder no republican has ever won the presidency without winning ohio. and so clinton has a consistent lead in many of the nationwide polls. a number of problem ment democrats are talking about potential for a sweep election here where they take the house and the senate. on the senate side in the state of ohio that is not really the case here. that is because senator rob portman has a 15 percentage
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point lead in the suffolk university poll over the democratic challenger, former governor ted strickland. of late, hillary clinton has been relying on her surrogates. yesterday it was michelle obama. she spoke in arizona. a state that is tip very reliably in the republican column but polls show very close this year. today president bill clinton. he will be down in florida campaigning. joe biden the vice president, will be in familiar territory in wilkes-barre, pennsylvania. analysis by "boston globe" of late, shows hillary clinton campaign events are half of what president barack obama, then senator obama obama was campaigning back in 2008. she has been relying on her surrogates but the campaign says now that the debates are over, there will be no more preparation for debates she will appear more herself. the pace of in-person events will intensify. john, jenna. back to you. jon: big race still in ohio. rich, thank you. jenna: as we close out the week
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editorial pages aflame with politics. peggy noonan, "wall street journal," the republican party will begin long process redefining itself or continue the long national collapse. this is epic event where donald trump intuited where things are going. glen hall, editor of "the wall street journal." calling donald trump a nut? is that where we're at? >> distinguish editorial side from the news side where i represent. i don't have opinion on that particularly, i think what she was getting at the fact that donald trump from the earliest days brought some new voters into the republican camp. this working class whites was not traditional core base. a lot of change has as a resulted from donald trump that gets overlooked in a lot of discussion lately. jenna: you think that is not appreciated by the republican party? >> i think as peggy said as well there was something donald trump recognized the party itself and party leaders hadn't seen going on in america, discontent with the policies, shifting
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priorities of the republican base and american people at large. they were not always synced up. jenna: you point out central theme of donald trump campaign that the system is broken, you say there is legitimate critiques of our system but how do you balance that between saying the system is broken and saying you don't trust the system to produce good results? >> this is the problem that, sort of hornet's nest donald trump opened up here which is on the one hand every candidate has the right to challenge results in particular areas where there seems to be very close race, where tally may not be accurate, you can go back and say i like a recount, al gore did in 2000. one of the things trump camp has been pointing out. that is one thing. everybody has the right to challenge that on other hand calling whole system in question people are interpreting trump's remarks is more frightening thing. we're not a third world country. the system generally works. a lot of republican governors
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and secretaries of state are running many states. this calls into some concern when you question entic get of editorial system. jenna: editorial, very anti-trump editorials out in all papers today. so i googled 2015 and almost same time, in 2015, you saw the same headlines about donald trump. and yet he is still standing. and, wonder, glen, when you think about the media in general and how already it is being called, race getting called for donald trump, for hillary clinton against donald trump? >> well that is the sort of core to donald trump's complaint about the rigged system. he often talks how the media is in cahoots with the clinton campaign and conspiring against him. his own party isn't supporting him way he thinks they should. all of those innings in some ways true to varying degrees. maybe not the same degree donald trump thinks but i would also point out there is divide between what you see in the rank-and-file voters you see in the polls versus what leaders in
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the party or some, those in the party who may not like donald trump, you see among the polls even most recent ones that there is still a very strong base level of support for donald trump within the gop among the rank-and-file voters. jenna: when there is so much herd mentality i wonder what we're overlooking. always great to see you. thank you. jon? jon: two communities in mourning after deadly day for u.s. forces in afghanistan. what we're learning about the americans killed in action. plus we'll have the latest developments from the front lines in iraq as the battle rages to take back mosul from the hands of the terrorists of isis.
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jon: the first american has been killed in the drive to retake iraq's second largest city, mosul. iraqi troops and kurdish forces are clearing villages in the push forward but isis militants are hitting back with an attack on a power plant in kirkuk.
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at least 11 people were killed before the attackers blew themselves up. benjamin hall was on the front lines speaking with christians who are trying to protect their communities. he is live in erbil, about 50 miles east of mosul. reporter: hi, jon. just as isis seems to be on the back foot on one part of the country they launch this ought daesh schuss counterattack 100 miles southeast of mosul in the town of kirkuk. militants armed with assault rifles and explosives attacked targets in and around the city. they coordinated attacks focusing on government buildings, killing at least six officers and focused on a power station where 13 employees died. gun battles continued for hours as multiple explosions rocked the city and militants walked openly in the streets. reports say as many as 16 civilians may have been killed and 12 isis fighters. government says this was work of sleeper cells.
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it is feared as isis lose territory, they may morph into an insurgency that launches attacks around the country. meanwhile 100 miles in the west, oldest christian settlement in the world liberated after being held by isis over the last two years. there was a sense of victory today on the road to the front lines. fighters returned from battle but a couple of miles ahead, the story was very different and it became clear victory was not y the villages around us are all christians. they have been liberated by kurdish fighters and christian units, many whom had to arm themselves. liberating a town and clearing an area are have very different things. there are said isis fighters possibly in the areas around us. as reinforcements streamed forward to help, it became very clear isis was still holding out. we've been trying to move forward for some time now. they can't clear the area in front of us. clear reminder what extent isis
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covers this area in ieds and explosives. now those christian units i mentioned are very interesting. they were set up two years ago as isis was approaching, just like villagers that wanted to protect churches and families. we know they had to buy their own weapons. most sadly we know as they go back into the villages that many of those churches are destroyed. christianity is seems another victim of this terror group. jon? jon: ben. >> mill hall reporting live from irbil. jenna: candidates trading jokes over wikileaks dump from over the weekend but content with the clinton campaign seems to show the issue is hardly a laughing matter. how the media is treating it and what it means for the general election and beyond. >> i said no to some jokes i thought were over the line but i suppose you can judge for yourself on wikileaks in the next few days. >> i guess, you didn't send her
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invitation by email. or maybe you did and she just found out about it through the wonder of wikileaks.
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jon: right now closer look at wikileaks and the impact it has had on this presidential election. some conservatives are blasting the niece media with a rush to protect hillary clinton from the revelations contained in her damaging emails. is the coverage too little too late or is it too much? and are the media handling wikileaks properly considering the emails are reportedly the product of russian hacks? judith miller, investigative reporter and author. ellen rat nor, bureau chief for
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media news and both fox news contributors. the overwhelming response of clinton campaign to release of these hacked emails, judy, you shouldn't pay attention to this stuff because the russians hacked it and made it available to wikileaks. what do you think, first of all of that argument? >> i think we should be paying attention to the information in the wikileaks. you pay attention to everything in a campaign but i think on balance, you always have to remember that we are seeing the result of stolen, hacked information, according to the american intelligence community, 17 agencies agree, from and by the russians. we don't know if these emails have been taken out of context. we don't know if they have been doctored. we don't know whether or not they're true. i think what we need to focus on, because it is such a serious, serious, unprecedented event, is the effort by a foreign government, which is
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hostile to american policy, to intervene in the outcome of our elections. so on this one, even though, yes, i do think it's awful that some journalists may have provided questions for a town hall or a debate in advance to the hillary campaign, i think that is awful and inexcusable but i think broader issue is this russian hacking. let me tell you, jon, after the election we are going to be focusing on this big league as donald trump would say as a country. jon: let me go ahead and play an exchange that donna brazile had because judy just referenced it. she was a contributor for cnn prior to being installed as the head of the, interim head of the democratic national committee. she got into an exchange with megyn kelly because wikileaks in email indicate she fed a question into the hillary clinton campaign ahead of one. democratic debates. >> you are accused of receiving a debate question before a cnn
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town hall where they partnered with tv-1. you had this question on march 12th, verbatim, verbatim was provided by roland martin to cnn the next day. how did you bet that question, donna? >> i did not receive any questions from cnn. that i will not sit here and persecuted what your information is totally false. >> i'm getting it from the emails. >> podesta's emails. a lot of those emails i would not give them time of the day. i have seen some doctored emails. >> okay. jon: there again the argument is they were stolen therefore they can't be true but how would that question otherwise would have appeared? ellen? >> well, i have no idea. i was actually there in nevada when she answered that and said that they were possibly doctored. i do want to say one other thing. the segment i did with judy,
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this segment was actually in the wikileaks emails talking about what we were saying. so, i think they monitored this as well. jon: someone in the clinton campaign heard you say that the press shouldn't cover hillary clinton anymore until she hold as news conference. which at that point she hadn't held for -- >> that is exactly correct. that's right. >> go ahead, ellen. >> well, i mean it is just really shocking. i don't know whether they're doctored or not. i agree with judy, we have to look the source. however as a press person, i tell you we get whatever sources we possibly get whether we meet for coffee somewhere they leak to us, but leaked information in is our bread and butter. jon: the pentagon papers were leaked and they were on the left were not decrying that effort, judy. >> that was effort to change american policy by an american. that is effort by vladmir putin
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or people around him, we don't know, who actively help one candidate, donald trump, over another, hillary clinton, become president of the united states. when you look at everything that donald trump has said about putin, about russia, about not standing by our allies in nato, this is putin playbook. this is music to putin's ears. you have to ask yourself, why is donald trump saying these things? is this what he believes or is this what putin wants him to say, we don't know, because we have too little information about donald trump's taxes, about whether or not he is getting money from the russians. we don't, there is so much we don't know about this we still need to know. that is what the press should be focusing on even though i stress it is inappropriate, unethical to provide a campaign with a question you plan to ask the next day. totally inappropriate. jon: we learned things about hillary clinton attitudes towards wall street according to these emails. >> absolutely. jon: that, well may explain why
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she didn't release transcripts of her speeches. we'll have to say good-bye. ellen ratner, judy miller. >> thankthank you. >> thank you. jon: set back for a lawsuit claiming a link between cell phones and brain injuries. what the ruling means for this case. our legal panel breaks it all down. >> unfit apple products and who the company is now claiming and who it is suing. looking for a medicare prescription drug plan
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jon: fox news alert. "wall street journal" is reporting that at&t is in advanced talks to acquire time warner, a deal that possibly could be announced early as this weekend. time warner already owns cnn, tnt, tbs, hbo, and a lot of other premium cable channels. i believe they have also acquired directv. now they are in conversations to acquire time warner. we'll see what the federal government has to say about all of this. we are told, although the talks are in their advanced stages, the deal could still fall through. we'll keep you updated. appeals court decision is delaying a lawsuit involving brain tumors and cell phones. more than a dozen people have sued cell phone companies claiming those phones have caused cancer. eight of them have died since the case was first filed.
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a judge now says a different legal standard for evidence should have been applied in the case. let's bring in wendy patrick. veteran prosecutor, and trial attorney. troy slayton is also with us, criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor. thanks both of you for being here. wendy, this case has been going on for five years, i'm sorry, for 15 years. the net effect of this ruling from the appeals court is just going to be slowing it down even more, right? >> that's right. jon. this case has been a marathon, not a sprint but could we discuss anything more important, do cell phones cause cancer? some people sleep with their cell phones although none of us will admit to it. what happened this week is significant the for a couple reasons. it is about evidence and what kind. the evidence has to do with evolution of science of the face it when it gets in front of a judge or jury they will say show me the science. in other words, how do you know cell phones cause cancer, how can you prove it and how do you
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prove it caused cancer for the plaintiffs in this case? jon: troy, the u.s. government said there is no conclusive evidence, that brain cancer or any kind of cancer is caused by cell phones. isn't that enough for the companies charged here to win this case? >> no. fortunately for people that are suing, the cell phone companies it doesn't matter what the federal government or any government says. what matters is, what does the judge allow into evidence before this jury? the judge is the gatekeeper. it is his job to frame what is called the factual unpercent for the jury and the judge isn't a scientist. he hasn't done experiments himself. so he has got to decide which standard to use to in deciding what evidence can go in front of this jury. jon: the case, they're asking for almost $2 billion in damages, wendy. i mean if they, if they are to prevail, who collects that money? anybody whoever used a cell
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phone? anybody whoever had cancer use a cell phone? how does that work? >> when you talk about class actions, it is people that are members of the class but it's a good question, jon, because it deals with the issue of press dent. as troy and i deal every day in the courtroom, it's a closed universe and closed universe evidentiarywise. in other words the facts that the court will have to consider are very different than what the public will be hearing about. that's why we don't try cases in court of public opinion. we do it in a court of law. regarding who can collect, you can bet if a suit is successful, there will be tens of thousands of more suits in the future. remember even all of that is dependent on the court's decision this week. what kind of evidence will be admissible to prove these very important claims in front of the judge. jon: troy, can you explain to us, what it is, what is the standard that the appeals court says has to be applied to this case and how did they come to that decision? >> well, jon, i'm admitted to practice in the district of columbia and i can tell you that
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they don't follow, or hadn't in the past, followed the federal rules of evidence, rule 702, that is also known as the dal bert standard, that 75% of the states follow. also, in california where i practice, we follow the frye standard. so even lawyers don't always have this straight. what it basically says is, judges are the gatekeepers. they have to decide whether this evidence is generally accepted in the scientific community and whether it can be retested, whether the expert who is giving his opinions are based on the scientific method and it could be redone, retested, and is generally accepted. jon: so, essentially, wendy, they said that the five experts who testified on behalf of the people who had cancer, the victims, who had cancer and who claimed they got that from their cell phones, those five experts, their testimony should not have been allowed boiled down, right? >> well basically they're arguing that the court applied
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the wrong standard in allowing that testimony. the dahl bert standard is far more expansive and permissive. not only can the court consider what they did in allowing the five experts to testify but the court has greater discretion to let in other evidence. the show me the science standards gives the judge even greater leeway to let in more evidence, including some of the evidence, you, jon, mentioned earlier. the court can consider even things above and beyond what is already admissible. that is good news for the defendants in this particular case. jon: it has been going 15 years. sound like it could go another 15. we'll see. wendy patrick, slayton. thank you both. >> thanks, jon. jon: apple files a federal lawsuit against a new jersey company after discovering nearly 90% of apple chargers and cables labeled genuine on were supposedly fake. amazon is not named in the suit but the company says it has, quote, zero tolerance for
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>> i think we need to understand the real and present danger that potentially a resurgent russia poses. dynamic started with invasion of crimea in 2014. ramp up of military spending by russia. the build up of military forces, particularly the spotlight it
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throws on the baltic states which of course have significant rushion-speaking minoritys and reality of the importance of building up our deterrent capability as nato alliance to protect and defend the alliance. jenna: uk pulling a group of navy destroyers to watch russian warships off the scottish coast. hms duncan going after the ships which could pass within a mile of england. comes with tension in syria as russia attacks aleppo and e.u. fails to approve sanctions with the kremlin. some question whether a war with russia would be on horizon. kt mcfarland, former assistant secretary of defense in the reagan administration and serves on donald trump national advisory committee. if we were in the campaign season, kt, this would be the lead story of the day. what is russia doing? >> i think russia has three motives here. they're taking all of their ships in the north, in the baltics and they're streaming
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past great britain and they're on their way to syria, off the syrian coast. what are they about to do? they're about to finish the job. they're about to attack aleppo. they're about to level aleppo and they will cement assad in power. by doing that they think they will do three things. one, they will take over the middle east again. they will be the major outside power in the middle east. number two, they're trying to show how weak nato is. nato won't even, european union won't even put sanctions on them for what they're about to do, the genocide they're about to commit. number three, they're showing the world we're back. russia is superpower again. i, vladmir putin have rebuilt mother russia and now reclaiming russia's place as world superpower. jenna: timing is everything, though. >> yeah. jenna: do you think elections have anything to do with this? what is it? >> here's why, jenna. putin is assuming obama is weak lame duck president, no drama, obama, doesn't want an incident
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before leaves office. he is counting on the fact that the united states is not going to do anything. he is counting on the fact that the europeans are preoccupied by the great muslim migration. so he is going to grab while the grabbing is good. jenna: why isn't the eu putting sanctions on russia? looks like they were going to vote through nato to sanction russia but then they hesitated. why? >> they're preoccupied. they're preoccupied with a economic crisis at home. they're preoccupied by the muslim migration throughout europe and they're preoccupied by "brexit". french may be next to pull out of european union. sanctions cost. not own i impose great hardship on russia because russia has sanctions on them but there is cost to people that imposed sanctions. it cuts off trade and makes them pay economic penalty. european union, the country is already struggling with the crises they have on their own doorstep don't want another problem and it is easier for them to look the other way. the problem with the european
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union they need everybody to go along with it and not everybody will go along with it no matter what we try to do. jenna: some of our viewers may have seen headlines over the weekend, seemed to suggest we were on precipe with war with russia, cyber war or actual full-out war. how do you see those headlines, kt? what should our viewers consider when they see something as scary as that? >> i think it is scary. we're already at war with russia. we're at cyber war with russia. if it is true russia is trying to influence and jigger up and scramble our elections, then that is act of war. that is an act of cyber war. what are we doing in response? i'm not sure we're doing anything in response. jenna: what should we be doing? >> here is what we could, we could, even if we had to do unilateral sanctions, we could pose economic sake shuns. the next step up, we would impose the world banking system. if you want to buy or strayed anything in the world economy have to go through the american bank and american dollars. we could shut russia out of that.
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jenna: let me give an example. this is report, i'm hedging that for our viewers, but there were reports out of england this week, english banks shut down russian television to be able to operate in england. england does this and all of sudden russian warships go along their coast. >> sure. jenna: wonder if those things are related, if we do something to russia will we see russian coast off our coast? what are we prepared to do? >> you bring up a really good point. you can't make a threat unless you're expected to deliver on the threat. in other words, don't draw a red line unless you are able to defend the red line. so far we're not prepared to do much whether russia goes into crimea or 2008 goes into georgia. whether russia is trying to rub everybody's nose in the new power status. we have to be sure whatever we're willing to do we ultimately carry out. the ultimate weapon to russia, say privately, you want to do,
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have a cyber war to america, we know how to respond to that, we'll tear down your cyber walls. one thing putin fears more than anything his own population rises up against him like ukrainians did against yanukovych, who was the president of ukraine. we have ultimate weapon against i am. the problem is, jenna, so far, hillary clinton, barack obama, john kerry strategy has been to humiliate and scold putin in public. in private be kind of a puppy dog. i think far better to do opposite. give him respect in public but in private turn the screws. >> we'll see with happens next. kt, thank you. >> thank you, jenna, we're learning names of two recent army casualties. douglas riney of fairview, illinois was killed in kabul again again this week. apparently a man wearing afghan army uniform attacked him. michael sorro, contractor from mccall sister, oklahoma was killed in the staple incident. another service member and two
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civilians were wounded as well. >> lots of claims this election season, that our political climate is most polarized it has ever been. why our next guest says that is the not case. he tells us when he thinks our politics is much more divided. video showing a moment when texas police officer rescue as deer out -- tied out of a house. surprising reaction when the officer sets him free. >> is that him right there? >> yes it is. >> that is perfect timing right there, isn't it?
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jenna: many believe divisive election year is one for history books but is it most polarizing political climate a "new york times" piece feuding
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founding father looks at political past. we often here pundits declare that our politics have never been more polarized. politics were more divide violent in the era of founders. one minister worried the parties hate each other as much as french and english hate each other during time of war. we have a presidential historian and much-needed perspective what is going on. doug, are we in the most polarizing time ever or do you agree with the author of this piece perhaps we're forgetting very key moments in our history? >> that's right, we're forgetting, it is really something to hear pundits this is as mean as it has ever been. this shows they flunked history. washington was in despair over what was happening and he had a treasury secretary, alexander hamilton who is now a broadway star too, fighting with thomas jefferson, his secretary of state, and the jefferson pamphleteers were saying that,
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alexander hamilton was having an affair with a woman named maria reynolds and using government funds to pay blackmail money to her husband. the hamilton pamphleteers saying thomas jefferson was having sexual relations with his black slave, sally hemings and used government money to take her to paris, france on government mission. turns out after many years, many historians, myself and others included were really vilified for piecing together what we believe was evidence that show that charges pens jefferson were true. now dna proves it. so, hey, the hot mic for donald trump was nothing. jenna: why do you think we forget that? is it just that we don't have a great grasp of our history, or, are we just kind of doomed to go into these cycles in politics every once in a while because that is the way american was founded to create this tension? >> yeah. r history. there is only 24 hours in a day
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and there is hundreds of years of history and some people love it. i love it. love to read it and study it. i think of andrew jackson and what happened to his wife. he was, he called it the corrupt bargain. he felt the election was rigged. he came back the next time and he won it and, his wife went to nashville to buy her inaugural dress and here were all the stacks of newspapers around. she started reading them and learning that during the campaign they accused her of adultery. they accused her of big a bigamist. she was deeply, devout religious woman. it stung her to the core. went back to the hermitage, their plantation and she fell ill and died. she never was in the white house as first lady and did not wear the dress and jackson was angry. jenna: most of us this is very much at surface level of conversation, you know, easy to
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take these attacks very personal. one of the, the piece that we were mentioning, the writer said this, political partisans and journalists shot one another in duals over insults and in early congress was full of limping gentlemen because of that. i mean that's where we were at, doug? >> yes, there was fistfights on the floor of the house of representatives. there was a caining that happened and continue all retaliation. jackson was so disturbed over what happened to his wife and he felt that the media killed her. he cobbled together his own network, his network of jackson newspapers. he began to attack the new emerging political figure, william henry harrison, who was challenging his vice president martin van buren. he couldn't get anything on harrison. so he attacked his children. and harrisons buried three of their four adult children on the
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three consecutive years leading up to his election as president and his wife never stepped foot in the white house, jackson got revenge because harrison was dead within 30 days, surrounded by those widows and those grandchildren. very sad story. jenna: a rigged election, potentially a new, journalist endeavor? it is sounding very familiar. give as you little hope as we end here, doug. we have always turned out okay, right? in few hundred years we've been in existence? >> there are beautiful moments in the darkness and with william henry harrison, for example, he had four sons. three of them died in the bitterness leading up to the election, one of them, jon scott harrison lived. he became a congressman. he became very successful. and his son, became the 23rd president of the united states, benjamin harrison. sometimes a rose will emerge in the junkyard. jenna: something to keep in mind. jon scott harrison.
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no irony there. doug, thank you for being on the program. thank you very much. >> thank you, jenna, jon. jon: i like sound of that. check out what is on "outnumbered" at top of the hour. ladies what do you have? >> we're waiting for donald trump to take podium at the rally amid new reaction to the statement yesterday he reserves the right to challenge the election results in november. >> cheers and years, who got more at last night's big charity dinner where hillary clinton and donald trump traded barbs. what does it say about possible bias? >> the u.n. has a lot on its plate as aleppo is under siege as you know, possibly past the point of no return for people trapped there but the global bodies still finding time to make wonder woman an honorary ambassador. really, happening like that. >> all that plus our #oneluckyguy. sheriff clark, "outnumbered," top of the hour. >> you can't see him. he will be here. jon: that will be great. >> five minutes. jon: we'll be right back. experience the thrill of the lexus is f sport.
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>> one firefighter in portland, oregon is hailed as being a here after being thrown 20 feet in powerful gas explosion. two police officers and three civilians were injured, none of them seriously. the accident was caused by construction workers who nicked a nearby gas line jon to end on a happy note, a wild veer in texas has a new hero. police officer's body camera shows how he found the deer behind the construction site. somebody tied it up there. the officer cut the door loose, untangling the lines and sent it free. he was in no hurry to leave the rescuer behind. >> i tried to spook him to run into the woods. he was having none of it. he wanted to hang out with us. >> sir, is that him right there? >> as a matter of fact, it is. that is perfect timing. >> officer points out unacceptable to tie up a wild animal like that.
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no words of any arrest to far. a friendly pat on the head to the deer. >> he is a kind soul. >> yeah. thank you very much, for joining us. we'll see you back here next hour. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. sandra: fox news alert. we are awaiting a donald trump rally in north carolina outside of asheville amid new fallout much claims he will only accept the results of next month's election if he wins. gop nominee taking fire from democrats and even members of his own party. this is "outnumbered" about. i'm sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner. democratic strategist julie roginsky. republican strategist, lisa booth. today's #oneluckyguy, a couch first-timer, there he is is, slid david clarke is here and he is "outnumbered." thank you very much. >> i've been outnumbered my


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