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november 17th. >> book ants greetings, november 19. >> north veil new jersey. >> do you have a website. >> ainsley earhardt >> congratulations, ainsley. bill: nice. congratulations. more pieces set to fall into place for pet elect trump. well-known names being floated as possible front-runners for key cabinet positions as questions remain who the next president will surround himself with in the oval office. very telling. we say good morning. gang is back together. bill hemmer, live in "america's newsroom." martha: i'm martha maccallum. there is a lot of buzz, a lot of speculation who will fill these cabinet position this is morning. a lot of talk about the secretary of state position. some are saying that they think it has been narrowed down to two people. we don't know for sure. but perhaps former mayor of new york city rudy giuliani is high on the list. perhaps former united nations
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ambassador and fox news contributor john bolton. here is mayor giuliani when asked about this. >> first of all i won't be attorney general. so good, i won't have to decide that one. >> make that clear. >> choice for secretary of state in the trump administration is rudolph giuliani, john is bolton. we don't have john bolton here tonight. i will ask you questions. >> john would be a very good choice. >> is there anybody better? >> maybe me, i don't know. [laughter]. bill: wow. martha: kristin fisher live in washington. what are you hearing about mr. trump's pick for secretary of state today? >> martha i asked john bolton bit this morning and he took a very different approach than the one you just say from rudy giuliani. bolton, wouldn't say a word about it. giuliani publicly said he does not want to be attorney general, which would force the trump transition team to consider him for something else like secretary of state. here is what trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway said
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about it just this morning. >> he said publicly he would not be attorney general. his name certainly has been mentioned in a serious way in connection with secretary of state, a job that he is qualified for and a job he would do exceedingly well. reporter: so the former new york city mayor is certainly top contenders. associated press is calling him the favorite but one has to wonder if his comments last night hurt his chance, at least a little, martha what about reports that donald trump's children who are high-ranking executives in his business are also being considered for top security clearances, is that true? reporter: not yet you but that could change. according to a transition team official the president-elect has not requested top secret security clearances for three of his children, ivanka, eric and donald, jr., now have they started filling out necessary paperwork for those kinds of clearances but at the same time that transition official didn't
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deny it was talked about or perhaps it could happen in the future. they're saying it is not happening right now. martha? martha: more to come. thank you, kristin. bill: clearly mr. trump has big choices ahead for him and recognizable names could be among those tapped to serve. check it out. wow. that is a list of those reportedly being considered for major positions. many people who supported trump early on, like alabama senator jeff sessions, former house speaker newt gingrich and on and on it foes goes. guy benson,, fox news contributor. good morning to you. throw a dart on the list we saw there. general sense what does the process so far suggest to you about trump? >> suggests to me values loyalty, right? a lot of those names we looked at people with him if not from the very beginning, pretty early on in the process. those people are being rewarded. we've seen that from his chief of staff reince priebus, with him wire-to-wire as soon as he became republican nominee.
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steve bannon, came in part of that winning campaign team toward the end of the campaign. they have some spoils of their victory already. i think we'll see a few more prominent trump world folks getting very highly-coveted positions in the next couple days and weeks. bill: here is kellyanne conway trying to read between the tea leaves on maria bartiromo's show on fox business. watch here? >> for donald trump the criteria you yaw are very simple. but they are people loyal not just to him but his actual vision. bill: you touched on that, that is telling, his actual vision. these selections will tell us a lot about his big picture and way he sees it. >> it is not, bill, i was for trump, so now i'm going to get mine. these have to be people especially in big positioning like secretary of state and secretary of defense and a few others who can share and put into place president-elect trump's vision for the country.
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it is not just, personal loyalty it is people on board for the program hwas to implement as prident. again i think that comes pack to a trust issue for trump. he wants to go with people he knows and trust will do that on his behalf and not be screaming for their own ends. bill: yeah. do you think it will be a remarkably different white house staff than what, than what your town is used to? >> yes. bill: you do? >> yeah. bill: or will it draw on similarities we've seen from previous administrations? >> of course there are so many slots that you have to fill, thousands of positions have to be filled by political appointment. you will see a lot of people from republican administrations past and people in their orbit fill some of those positions but i think in terms of, look, donald trump will be president. that is unlike anything we've seen from either party ever, frankly and for that reason alone it goes to the very top. it will be radically different even if there are some familiar faces, prominent and less
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prominent filling out the administration. bill: final thing quickly. any guaranties you think right now? if you were putting smart money down where with you put it. >> i think rudy made the joke he didn't watch if he didn't feel that was in the bag for him. you got to imagine newt how loyal is for trump and how smart he is, he will have a position. i'm curious to see where kellyanne conway lands. she deserves a lot of credit. they held that to the vest. bill: guy benson analysis there from washington, d.c. we await more. martha is it. martha: familiar name could become public fa of the trump administration. talk show host laura ingraham reportedly considered for the white house press secretary job. last night, telling tucker carlson on his debut show i might add, she is open to that possibility. >> i'm honored to be considered
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for that job and other jobs, if i could do something actually to advance the trump agenda which is stuff i've written about 15 years, trade and immigration, renewing america. i obviously have to seriously can consider that. martha: some others, sawn spicer, chief strategist for the republican national committee and communications for them and also trump transition spokesman jason miller would be natural people to be considered for that spot as well. we'll see where they end up. bill: folks we're familiar with over past year-and-a-half. in a moment we talk to two people according to sources in the trump transition team up for consideration. john bolton is our guest. ric grenell our guest later this hour. here on "america's newsroom." there is parlor game at play here. some of this is speculation. some of this is trying to make a public sales job. so you know we'll cut through it best we can to figure it out for you. martha: none of the decisions are made until they're made. we don't really know what
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donald trump thinks about who should be in these spots and getting a lot of input for sure. not over until it's over for any of these spots. bill: you saw president obama yesterday afternoon. in a moment we'll see him again. he is live in europe. that is the mansion, maximus mansion. that is cool name. instead of the white house it is maximus mansion. martha: it has to be maximus. bill: athens, greece, awaiting comments. whoo will be his final overseas as president. president-elect trump he was asked about this repeatedly, one of his answers went like this. >> the people have spoken. donald trump will be the next president, the 45th president of the united states. those who didn't vote for him have to recognize that is how democracy works. do i have concerns? absolutely, of course i've got concerns. he and you i differ on a whole bunch of issues and things get worse then, the american people will figure that out pretty
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quick. and if things get better, then more power to him and i will be the first to congratulate him. bill: he sounded off on the election suggesting the stunning losses by many democrats to be a political blow and considerable one at that the maximus mansion. it is not a little house, martha. it is maximus. martha: i thought that was a fascinating news conference yesterday. the president's tone was one that i don't think we really heard from him before. it was clearly a president ready to move on. someone who believes his party made mistakes in terms of getting out there enough to get the vote out. he said many times on the campaign trail. don't boo, vote. he is not happy that that didn't happen. you but i thought he was very magnanimous when it came to donald trump. we'll dig into that. bill: we shall. martha: president obama did have is kind words for the president-elect yesterday but on campaign trail he said over and over again he would be personally insulted if his supporters did not get hillary clinton elected. what does her defeat mean for
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his legacy? bill: former mayor rudy giuliani that president-elect trump will make destroying isis a top priority from day one. how will trump get that done. we'll look at some of the possible options as they stand today. martha: one man who may play a big role, vladmir putin. how will this work out? john bolton coming up next. >> putin has taken a very weak hand in terms of his domestic economy but played a very strong hand in international affairs because he has faced weak leadership from washington. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you.
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queencse mattress with sleepiq technology. hurry, ends sunday. know better sleep with sleep number. bill: want to get to the breaking news now. we know president-elect trump did talk with russian president vladmir putin by telephone pledging to improve relationsing fox news contributor. that is job you would have to give up if you were tapped. good morning, sir, more in a moment on your own future but we're seeing a statement between putin and trump talking about extremely unsatisfactory relations between the u.s. and trump. you saw that and thought what, sir? >> i think relations are very unsatisfactory largely due to the behavior of russia and the naivete anincompetence of the obama administration. i think we all remember that hillary clinton started out her tenure as secretary of state
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with the famous reset button. blaming, what were then bad relationships between washington and moscow on the bush administration and it turned out that making one concession after another to putin didn't make relations any better. look what fundamentally dictates international affairs is the clash and confluence of national interests and that's what leaders have to sort out. it is not a question of personal relationships. they're important, that's for sure but it is rock bottom national interests that make the difference. bill: how does trump deal with putin differently from obama then? >> i think one of the reasons that putin is very casual about expanding russian influence, taking advantage of america in eastern europe and the middle east is that he sees quite correctly barack obama as an exceedingly weak leader. i think trump is going to be the opposite. he think he will be a strong leader and i think that will
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have two dramatic impacts on putin. number one, it will make him a lot more hesitant to try to extend russian influence. and two, what may seem paradoxical which i think it is true, it will make putin more inclined to cooperate because he will believe if he makes a deal with another strong leader, they both will stick to it. bill: we'll see if it goes that way. doesn't seem like it has been that way for some time and -- >> about eight yrs to be precise. bill: right on. when you look what's happening in syria today, russian airstrikes carried out against the syrian opposition, that's a syrian opposition was all likelihood funded and supported by the united states government. so what's the window of that opportunity on behalf of russia? is that two months? is that the 20th of january where they see a 60-day window now? >> i think that russia will take a lot of actions before the 20th of january as i think will other countries to see one
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last opportunity to exploit obama's weakness, but in connection with the conflict in syria and iraq, i think the point trump made throughout the campaign which is central is, his determination to seek the rapid destruction of isis as opposed to the slow roll obama approach. but look, this is a multisided conflict and destruction of any one combatant will necessarily advantage all the others. the way obama is approaches it will advantage iran more than anyone else. i think that's a mistake. we ought to pick the route to destroy isis that minimizes advantage to iran, using arabs more. using the kurds more. figuring out a way to get the turks involved more. i think that would end up with a more positive outcome because if not, simply, it is not simply the destruction of isis although that is the first objective. it is what comes after that. bill: word from the crem lynn
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moments ago, they will not meet in person prior inauguration, january, probably february before that happens. as for your fate and your future, mr. ambassador, would you, want to be the u.s. secretary of state, let's start there? >> well, you know i'm kind of old school on this business. it has been an honor to serve the country i've said. i will say it again, it would be honor to serve the country again, but ultimately the president-elect's decision. i don't think it is appropriate to talk about it in public. in god's good time he will make up his time, we will move on. bill: have you talked to him about it, sir? >> i have not. bill: then we await. john bolton, thank you for your time. we're on standby as they say. 19 minutes past the hour. martha. martha: the dow has been on a six-day winning streak since president-elect donald trump's victory. wall street reportedly betting which trump they will see in the white house. i would say from the numbers i think they expect the
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businessman to show up on pennsylvania avenue. he is agent of change. a billionaire tycoon. all those things are true. what will he do in the business interests of the country? steve forbes joins us on that. bill: murder or a tragic mistake. a jury reaching a verdict in the case of a man who left his son in a hot car for hours.
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martha: we go live to the news conference that is happening in athens, greece, this morning. president obama on his final foreign trip as president of the united states. we're listening to initial comments here from the prime minister of greece as they begin this. the president will end his trip in peru as he makes his travels and obviously talked a lot about the fact that on his prior
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foreign trips during the election he claimed he was constantly asked about the seriousness of the trump candidacy and what kind of president donald trump would be if he were to take on that role and represent the country on the foreign stage. i think it is safe to say that the president believed that hillary clinton would be the person that he would be preparing these world leaders for. and now it is quite the opposite. he is discussing no doubt with foreign leaders meets with, what kind of president donald trump will be and more informed after spending minutes with donald trump as the president-elect in the white house and discussing the role of the presidency and what it entails in terms of foreign affairs no doubt as well. we will keep an eye on this. we'll dip in and listen to some of this with the translation now. >> translator: keeps the european stuck in stagnation and
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therefore brings about huge political and social problems. and in this respect i had the opportunity to discuss with president obama the huge challenges that of our country but also the whole of europe is dealing with. these are challenges that need to be dealt with collectively, decisively and otherwise we will be led to backwards from a political and a social point of view. , we have agreed for modern societies to have help and against the increasing skepticism and inward looking which is a threat to modern
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democracies. the international community when trying to avoid historic mistakes of the past saw this issue clearly when in 1953 and with the assistance and supports of the united states of america, they settled the german debt and they linked it to a growth clause. today the strong germany, which is powerhouse of, financial powerhouse of europe, should think in the same manner. greece and the greek people have recently had to deal with the most, the harshest consequences of the global and european economic crisis. as an economy and as a society we have had to experience a program of disasterous austerity
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which made the problems more acute instead of resolving them. within a few years we have lost 25% of our gdp while in 2004 unemployment went up to 27%. today and despite what we have suffered we are still standing. we were able through great sacrifices to avoid the threats and, the threatened disaster and we are step by step restoring our economy. today for the first time in years we are back to growth. slowly but surely -- martha: we'll keep one ear on this we want to bring in steve forbes who joined us on this set. steve, obviously this is a foreign policy discussion but we also wanted to discuss trade with you and what you think the future president, donald trump, will take on. some details have been leaking out this morning in terms of the
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immediate beginning of the process is of reforming nafta. also a lot of discussion about a possible china trade war. your thoughts on any of those? >> well, i think you're going to see in terms of trade, that is going to take a lot of negotiating. that is going to take a lot of time. there are remedies in place for trade abuses. i think you will start to see a little more aggressive approach there but two big things will have to be addressed immediately and why i think the stock market held up and gone up, a major tax overhaul, reducing tax rates across the board and drastically reducing taxes on businesses. on the health care side you will see repeal of obamacare, most of it and zoo a more pro-patient approach taken which will be good especially for small businesses. the other day donald trump mentioned doing deriegelation on bank lending. bank lending declined
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drastically last couple years which is why you have such poor job creation. why you have such a low labor participation rate. in next 100 days or 100 days of his administration, you will see huge major pushes on taxes, on health care, getting our financial system working again and that i think will be excellent for the economy. martha: there are some memos that are leaking out this morning that talk about many so of the specifics that may be in this plan. it includes benchmarks broken down by the trump transition team, benchmark for day one, benchmark for day 100, benchmark for day 200 of markers they want to meet. clearly you touched on exactly what is the heart of their plan to retain and return manufacturing jobs which deals with lowering the business taxrs on businesses and restrictions. i think even the, victory of donald trump has led a number of companies across the country to say, yeah, let's move forward
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with that expansion plan. >> i think companies are taking a new look. one of the things i think the president will do even on inauguration day itself, sign executive orders peeling away a lot of obama's anti-growth executive orders and pushing or having a real push for deregulation. remember when ronald reagan came in back in 1981, on day one he took off price controls on oil and gas which critics said would lead to a huge increase in prices. it led to just the opposite. more supply, more reasonable prices and contributed to the great boom of the 1980s. think you will see trump try to do the same thing from day one on the deregulatory side of things. martha: you know, president obama, when he spoke yesterday at the news conference stuck up for the regulations that he has implemented over the course of his presidency. basically removing corporate regulations would be a huge mistake. we know that this future president feels very, very
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differently about that. >> well, yes. and you look at the small businesses, they're getting crushed by these rules and regulations. many of them written in language which no one can interpret except a bureaucrat depending on his or her mood that day and that hurts investment. if you get a push on deregulation, not punishing banks for making loans, i think you will see the credit markets start to revive. he will push the fed to be less anti-credit market in terms of policy. so you put that together, and the people look to the future. if they think there is a future there of reasonable taxation, regime that is not anti-growth, people will, the animal spirits will come back again. martha: what about china, steve? there is discussion of a 45% tariff and some people pointing out that that might sort of come back to bite us. that it would raise prices of everything at walmart as an example in "the wall street journal" this morning. >> yes. you don't have to put a 45% sales tax. tariffs are sales taxes.
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you don't have to do that. there are remedies in place. china, for example, here and in europe and around the world is dumping steel. the remedies are there to deal with that. we have legislation on the books. this administration has been laggard or missing in action in terms of those rules violations. you can do things within the rules without throwing the whole system out. so, yes, you can take action within the rules, meaningful action on things that they shouldn't be doing. and cybersecurity, which is not strayed in and of itself is another thing that is hurting companies when you steal, what they call intellectual property, trade secrets and the like of companies. that too can be dealt with from day one of the means are there. just got to use them. martha: so much on the list. steve forbes, economist, publisher, former presidential candidate. thank you so much for your -- >> thank you, martha. bill: gone through a lot too, the country of greece wits own economy and reflected across the continent of europe.
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how will donald trump address isis? another threat in the middle east and in europe. we'll ask the man who might become the next u.s. ambassador to the u.n. stand by, we'll get you back to greece when president obama speaks. ♪ music
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and that is why you invest. the best returns aren't just measured in dollars. td ameritrade. martha: president-elect donald trump facing task of addressing rising terror concerns in the middle east and around the world. mr. trump refusing to go into details about the plans to fight isis but rudy giuliani saying that will likely be the president's first foreign policy goal. listen. >> short term i believe is our greatest dank and not because of isis in, in iraq and in syria but because isis did something al qaeda never did. isis was able to spread itself around the world. martha: that's true. ric grenell, former spokesman
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for four u.s. ambassadors to the u.n. and fox news contributor. rick, good morning. good to have you with us today. >> good to be here, martha. martha: your thoughts, i heard you say you were ecstatic about the future for foreign policy in this country under president trump. why? >> look, one thing that we always talk about in the foreign policy community is the threat of a credible, a credible threat of military action. it is not just a threat of military action but the word credible is really important and i think what we've had over the last eight years are international partners who don't think it's credible. president obama has mocked military action. he has made political promises to say that he is not going to start any new wars. so i think it's really important for people to understand at the u.n., in the international community, our friends, our allies and even, even our enemies that donald trump sends a very credible threat of
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military action. we have one president at a time, and this current president, president obama, has still 2 1/2 months before leaves in late january. isis needs to be told that it is not, it doesn't have a free area until early february. that would be a disaster. what is happening right now throughout syria is really troubling. martha: understood but don't you think they are doing airstrikes every single day and they have pushed isis back over the course of their time there? >> i don't buy that we have 63 coalition partners and nato and we've been bombing for five plus years and we can't find the command-and-control center. we have a problem with intelligence, and we don't have accurate and timely intelligence inside of syria because president obama made a political promise before he started looking at the classified information in the intelligence.
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before even entered the oval office, before he saw the threats, before he saw how much our enemies were even fomenting against us, martha, he made a commitment to not start any new wars and to bring everyone home and no boots on the ground anywhere. martha: yeah. >> that is not a, a credible, military, national security criteria. that is a political promise that you make in the cornfields of iowa, and that's what we've seen for eight years. what donald trump is going to do is restore the threat of a credible military action. i'm telling you that the diplomats at the u.n. are going to be knowing immediately and already excited to have u.s. leadership. they, including the french and the british by the way, are tired of the americans not having ideas. are tired of the americans not having any plans. they're not calling security council meetings.
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they're not taking actions. they don't have ideas. that is a lack of u.s. leadership. martha: right now there is a crews missile anti--- cruise missile, russian anti-aircraft carrier off the coast sending cruise missiles into syria trying to hit rebels there and trying to get isis on the neutral front as well. your thoughts why russia would take the action at the moment? they have been allied with bashar al-assad through the course of the last many months? >> they want assad stay. the policy under president obama has been assad must go. the russians feel compelled to put up military hardware against president obama because there have been no consequences. they can do what they want. i think what we need, we need a president that can reach out to russia and figure out, look, what are our goals here? what can we work on together and where do we differ? i mean look, we've got a natoally in turkey that wants assad to go.
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they're fighting the kurds inside of syria. the kurds are an ally of ours. so the place is a mess in terms of organization. what john kerry needs to be doing is doing more planning. i don't want to give up on this administration. we have 2 1/2 more months. they need to do the right thing. we shouldn't send a message to all of those in syria and all of those around the world you have to wait until february when we have a credible threat of military action. martha: ric grenell played a role at u.n. for many years. we'll see if that is something that continues in the new administration. ric, thank you. bill: we're watching a meeting in athens, greece, when there are headlines we'll take you out there. president obama offering advice for the man who will replace him in january? >> it will be important for him to have the room to staff up, to figure out what his priorities are, to be able to distinguish between what he was campaigning
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on and what is practical. what he can actually achieve. bill: now a question as to whether or not the election was a rebuke of president obama's last eight years in office. fair and balanced debate on that. coming up next.e stay tuned. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt.
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>> i don't think he is idealogical. i think ultimately he is pragmatic in that way. and, that can serve him well. as long as he has got good people around him and he has a clear sense of direction. bill: so president obama late yesterday before leaving washington for europe will get you to greece in a moment. startling different tone than his warnings on the campaign trail saying his legacy for eight years was on the line in this election. rachel campos duffy, fox news contributor, julie roginsky, democratic strategist and
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fox news contributor as well. julie, how are you feeling? are you okay? >> i'm all right. bill: irnot popping xanax, are you? >> no. you have some? bill: that was pretty good. >> thank you. bill: charles krauthamer on what this election means for president obama's legacy. >> said i will take it as a personal insult if you don't turn out to support me and have our side win. well, he was personally insulted. historians will see him as textbook definition of a guy who won on hope and change, who won with a wave of goodwill and who completely destroyed his presidency with liberal overreach. bill: wow. if true, that is a repudiation. >> you know -- bill: of eight years, julie. >> i don't think it is repudiation of eight years. let's not forget she won the popular vote by sizable margin, million votes and counting. one thing you do have to say, charles does have a point to
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some extent, saying this to the election. would-be hoof my party, i did this over the weekend think about why it is that donald trump won. a lot of those same voters as rachel can attest in your home state, state of wisconsin, some of those same voters obama won. it is same reason that obama ran on hope and change. they expected hope and change. their pocketbook issues continue to fester. they continue to pay more for obama care despite people like me saying it is great, people have access to health care and more taken out of their checkbook every day for health care costs. they don't see the economic recovery is affecting them directly. they continue to hope for vote and change and somebody who will commit to them, obama committed to them. their financial issues are growing to get bert. i hope donald trump comes through. bill: don't take my word for it, or even krauthamer, this is president obama almost two months ago to the day, september 17th. when he said this in washington. >> i will consider it a personal
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itslt a insult to my legacy if guard and fails to activate itself in this election. want to give me a good sendoff? go vote! bill: and they did. >> they did. this is repudiation on his legacy. this is a legacy built on, this is sandcastle. built on a executive orders. failed health care plan. people seeing their deductibles going up. i think what we see now with stock market shooting through the roof, this is america turning the page on obama's socialist policies. they are happy to have a businessman in the executive office. and, i think that is why you're seeing what happened here. bill: argued that the reason he had some executive orders that he had a congress would not work with him. you could argue quite clearly you're the commander-ichief. go to them and find common ground. >> look he passed obamacare. i will tell you in wisconsin, obamacare's failure, the rates going up, deductibles going through the roof, that is what
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won the election for senator johnson and ultimately for donald trump. i absolutely think obamacare was his signature legacy. it failed and it cost them this election. >> i will say this, when you have mitch mcconnell saying right off the bat, my number one priority is to make barack obama one-term president, imagine if chuck schumer said i will filibuster every piece of legislation that republicans and donald trump would like to get through to make donald trump a one-term president. imagine complete meltdown people on the right. bill: would be up to as i stated, president-elect trump to figure out a compromise. >> good luck. bill: so that you don't get stonewalled. >> you can't comprise with somebody that doesn't want to compromise. bill: ultimately he is pragmatic, referring to donald trump. >> i hope that is true. i really hope that is true. i'll tell you something, what scares a lot of people, mike pence, for example, if he were president today you know where mike pence stands on issues. i don't agree with anything he stands for necessarily but i have confidence, sort of understanding what mike pence is going to do.
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this madman theory, this is not mat gnat call theory, i'm not accusing him being madman, madman theory of politics you don't know what the person will do next is unsettling to a lot of people. you could look at it as pragmatism and look at it as instability. that is what scares a lot of people. >> i don't see instability, choice of reince priebus a others that he is pragmatic. >> steve bannon? >> he still has to keep faith with people got him elected. steve bannon is the person that keeps him accountable. i think that he is not tied to ideology the way other republicans are. i think that will give him wiggle room to compromise. i don't think it is what you will think. i think you will be pleasantly surprised. >> i truly hope you're right and i hope your right that the president said it is pragmatism, not let me talk to the last person i spoke to and have this person tell me what to do. bill: thank you, ladies. >> anybody got it send it on over. that is a joke.
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martha: book into the news conference in greece. risen to what the president has to say. referendum on complex relationship between great britain and the rest of europe and a presidential election in the united states. you know, presidential elections always turn on personalities.
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they turn on how campaigns are run. they turn on natural desires for change if, you had an incumbent who has been there for eight years. there is temptation to think, well let's maybe make a change. there are a whole range of factors involved. but i do think that there is a common theme that we've seen in a lot of advanced economies and that we've seen around the world. although they manifest themselves in different ways. globalization combined with technology, combined with social media, and constant information has disrupted people's lives,
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sometimes in very concrete ways. manufacturing plant closes and suddenly an entire town no longer has what was the primary source of employment. but also psychologically. people are less certain of, of their national identities or their place in the world. it starts looking different and disorienting. and, there is no doubt that that has produced populist movements both from the left and the right in many countries in europe when you see a donald trump and a bernie sanders, very unconventional candidates, have considerable success than obviously there is something there that is being tapped into.
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a suspicion of globalization, a desire to rein in its excesses. a suspicion of elites and governing institutions that people feel may not be responsive to their immediate needs. and that sometimes gets wrapped up in issues of ethnic identity or religious identity or cultural identity. that can be a volatile mix. it's important to recognize though that those trends have always been there, and it is the job i think of leaders to try to , people's real legitimate concerns and channeled the most constructive ways possible.
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did i recognize that there was anger or frustration in the american population? of course i did. first of all that we had to fight back since the worst recession since the great depression. if your housing values crashed and you lost most of your pension and you lost your job you will be pretty angry. so we fought back but that left fear and anxiety in a lot of people. that the economy wasn't as certain as it could be and maybe the game was rigged on wall street or by special interests in washington or what have you, and that's been there. i was also aware because of the fact that that you have seen
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some of the rhetoric among republican elected officials and activists and media. some of it, pretty troubling, and not necessarily connected to facts but, being used effectively to mobilize people. and obviously president-elect trump tapped into that particular strain within the republican party and then was able to broaden that enough and get enough votes to win the election. the lesson i draw, and i think people can draw a lot of lessons, but maybe one that cuts across countries is, we have to deal with issues like inequality, we have to deal with
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issues of economic dislocation, we have to deal with people's fears that their children won't do as well as they have. the more aggressively and effectively we deal with those issues, the less, those fears may channel themselves into counterproduct tiff approaches. that pit people against each other. and frankly that has been my agenda for the last eight years. i think raising wages, investing in infrastructure, making sure that people have access to good educations that equip them for jobs of future, those are all agenda items that would help alleviate some of those economic
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pressures and dislocations that people are experiencing. the problem was i couldn't convince a republican congress to pass a lot of them. now having said that, people seem to think i did a pretty good job, and so there is this miss match i think between frustration and anger, perhaps the view of the american people was is that just need to shake things up.
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>> those folks who voted for the president-elect are better off than when i came into office. we'll see whether those facts effect people's calculations in the next election. >> you asked -- i believe angela merkel could be convinced to make but which are the necessary steps for the recovery of the greek economy. the answer is i'm very optimistic. angela merkel is a german
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politician. and germans insist sometimes, sometimes -- bill: a pretty fascinating postmortem. president obama a moment ago suggesting that people seem to think i did a pretty good job. he said i can make an interesting point that my policies were good for the american people. not you aftermath of this election stretches from washington, d.c. to athens, greece with the president today. we wanted to show that with you. 3 minutes past the hour as we start a new hour. martha: the point of what the president was saying in terms of his take on the election. he was a little more free thinking and taking liberties
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while he tries to protect the new president. in this moment we just saw he clearly is trying to protect his legacy but the senate republicans would not let me do that essentially. more to come on what the president just said. house republican leaders are about to hold a news conference as president-elect donald trump's cabinet picks. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. president-elect trump and vice president-elect pence meeting to talk about key appointments from the cabinet on down.
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backlash against steve bannon, his chief strategist. kellyanne conway calling it an organized smear campaign. >> it's so wrong. they are cherry picking a few headlines and laying that at the feet of bannon and trump. you are asking the wrong questions about the wrong campaign. president obama has clearly accepted them and is moving forward. martha: carl cameron has covered this campaign from the very end, carl, welcome. great to have you with us. what are the next decisions we think we are going to get? secretary of state, right? reporter: it looks like rudy
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giuliani has the front row and he's competing with john bolton, the former u.n. ambassador. he has been very, very involved overseas with a security company. so he has repetition and connections with a lot of these companies already. there may not announcements today. today mike pence will be here in new york, the governor of indiana. as the chairman of the transition chris christie got pushed aside when they put pence in charge of it. when he gets into new york today there will be self long lists of names. we may have to wait for them to be made public until thursday. but it's clear they are closing
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in on jeff sessions, something rudy giuliani said he didn't want to do. lots of choices to be made, a lot of folks wondering what role kellyanne conway's will be since there are self opportunities for her. maybe communications director or spokesperson. but there already is a communications director. it's a transition and it's always a little bit ugly. martha: she was lead in terms of being campaign manager and did a great job. carl, thank you very much. good to see you, carl. bill: good to see you in person. martha: you can sit down for a change. bill: congress back pat work in washington. you will hear from republican
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house leaders. mike emanuel found his way back to capitol hill. let's start with the drama expected in these leadership elections. >> on the republican side we don't expect much drama. we expect the elections to go smoothly. house speak per paul ryan is expected to be re-elected. with president-elect trump they are excited to get things done. many of these republicans have not served under a republican president. on the democratic side there are signs of frustration. two have crafted letters urging nancy pelosi to postpone their leadership elections scheduled on thursday. there are rumblings about nancy pelosi and her lieutenants being in power for a long time.
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there is some thought that if you delay those elections until after thanksgiving, it will give some time to get started. martha: a show of unity among members of the republican party. they say they are ready to work now with president-elect trump. here is senator tom cotton. >> i think every republican congressman is on the side of donald trump. martha: chris collins, a member of the transition team executive committee who will serve as a congressional liaison. welcome this morning. >> it's a great day in
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washington. martha: we were just watching the president in greece. did you get a chance to hear what he had to say? >> are you talking about his legacy? it's a total repudiation of everything he has stood for the last 8 years. we are talking about the republicans being in control of the statehouse, the governorships, complete control in washington. we now have $20 trillion of debt. our children and grandchildren are going to deal with. isis is a worldwide threat to civilization. more people living in poverty than ever. more people on food stamps than ever. health insurance completely unaffordable. when you go up and down the line, how president obama can think that's a positive legacy and the election wasn't a total repudiation of his policies, he's in denial. martha: we have seen him be
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gracious over the course of the last few days. i'm sure i would imagine you would agree with that. but today we heard more of the protection of the obama legacy as you just alluded to. he says he believes his ideas were right about how to address the concerns and frustrations and anger out there in the country. but the republican congress would not go along with his ideas and that's why people didn't get the satisfaction from washington that they wanted. >> that's wrong on so many levels. the fact is president obama said he had a phone and a pen. he basically legislated through executive orders, which president-elect trump can overrule and eliminate on day one. but it comes down to the arrogance of president obama. he never worked with congress, he never reached out to congress. and his ideas were so left-wing socialist. america, we could never have
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support as conservative republicans the government that was getting out of control through rule making and executive orders. the good news is we can fix the direction of washington with a united republican party legislating, not executive orders to have this government more tuned in to america. martha: what seemed to catch fire was drain the swamp. there is a lot of swamp in washington as everybody knows. what is going to be the first order of business? is it going to be cutting bureaucracy, cutting agencies? how is that going to work? >> the republican congress has 8 years of good bills that died on harry reid's decks and/or were vetoed by president obama. we know the rules and regulations whether it's the
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waters of the midwest. we'll work on removing regulations. mr. trump's first priority will be overturning many of the executive orders put forth by president obama. saying we'll have a left regulatory environment that stifles business, that absolutely is job one. but we have a lot of job ones. martha: a federal hiring freeze, is that a definite. >> we'll reduce size of government, we don't need any more employees. bill: interesting to hear kellyanne conway saying the excuse of divide government is no longer. massive terror raids carried out in germany, trying to crack down on the islamic group that played
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a role to radicalization of young people. >> millions of americans don't feel president obama included them in his grand vision. martha: the president arguing they basically were working with facts that are not the truth of the matter and the gop persuaded them to believe things that wrnlt true. what does it mean for democrats? and are they in denial about that inclusion issue. bill o'reilly joins us live minutes away.
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try unlimited garlic herb butter, or crispy shrimp for just $ 15.99. and let the bold flavors speak for themselves... with unlimited shrimp at outback. martha: this is very interesting, the president in greece talking about his legacy. let's listen in a bit for to this. >> as you know, throughout my presidency as a matter of convenience i haven't generally paid a lot of attention to the polls. but since your question is directly related to the notion of a rejection of my world view, last i checked, a pretty healthy majority of the american people agree with my world view on a bunch of things. i know that begs the question how is it somebody who appears to have a very different world view just got elected.
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as i said, sometimes people just feel as if we want to try something to see if we can shake things up. and i suspect that was a significant phenomenon. i do believe separate and apart from any particular election or movement, that we are going to have to guard against a rise a crude sort of nationalism or ethnic identity or tribalism that is built around an us and a them. and i will never apologize for saying that the future of
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humanity and the future of the world is going to be defined by what we have in common as opposed to those things that separate us and ultimately lead us into conflict. take europe. we know what happens when europeans start dividing themselves up and emphasizing their differences. and seeing a competition between various countries in a zero sum way. the 20th century was a bloodbath. and for all the frustrations and failures of the project to unify europe, the last five decades
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have been periods of unprecedented peace, growth and prosperity in europe. in the united states, we know what happens when we start dividing ourselves along lines of race or religion or ethnicity. it's dangerous. not just for the any north groups that are subjects to that kind of discrimination, in some cases in the past, violence, but because we then don't realize our potential as a country. when we are preventing blacks or latinos or asians or gaze or women from fully participating in the project of building
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american life. so my vision is right on that issue. and it may not always win the day in the short term with any particular political circumstance, but i'm confident it will win the day or the long term. because societies in which we are able to unify ourselves around values and ideals and character and how we treat each other and cooperation and innovation ultimately are going to be more successful than societies that don't. that's my strong belief. and i think i have got pretty good evidence to prove it.
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>> i know very little of donald trump. i got to know his aggressive manner and his manner in which he defended some up conventional points of view during the election period. some have told me i should have read his book before going to bargain in brussels, and i didn't. i don't think that's decisive to the result. but let me point out, there was one thing about donald trump when he was seeking to become the candidate for the republican party, another thing in the
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election period, and now that he's the president-elect, and it's quite another when he will be the president of a country that is major player, a global player. so that is why contrary to some of my colleagues in europe, i did not rush to repeat some of the criticisms that's of us have made during the election period about donald trump. i also believe if someone who wants to radically change the foreign policy of a country such as the united states, which is very difficult, although some of us may feel that this may happen, what we should be doing is build bridges, not walls. we are receiving on the basis of
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common values. we have more to gain from partnership, from promoting our partnership and dealing with the global challenges. i therefore believe that in the near future, not much is going to change in the relations between the eu, greece and the united states america. these are relations that were forged under very difficult conditions and rely on the common values of our people. maha: fascinating moments that we just witnessed with the prime minister of greece and president obama. he went into the most detail we have seen since the election on his feeling on his legacy and
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wet were he was right or wrong on his agenda. joining me, rich lowry and jessica tarlov. welcome to both of you. we are looking at this together. rich, what did you think? >> i think he foreign leader around the world will take a page from the greek prime minister and cite "the art of the deal." president obama has gone out of his way to be gracious. but this is different. there was a little defensiveness and he has a lot to be defensive about. he has never been able to transfer his popularity to anybody else in his party. everything is washed out. and an enormous part of his legacy will be reversed.
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including his signature piece of legislation, which is obamacare. martha: he said he believed people in this election just want to shake things up, it's a significant phenomenon. >> there is a difference between liking barack obama personally. he's one of the greatest political speakers of all times certainly in american history. and his policies are a separate issues. this election was a referendum on that. it was also a referendum on hillary clinton personally. when the african-american voters don't turn out for her, it's about her. and what they are saying to him about where the party has gone. i think they were dissatisfied with that as a choice. we had million less votes than we did in the 2012 election.
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2/3 of those on the democrat side. but i think he's -- i have always thought history would look more fondly on barack obama. but if we have attacks on women's health there is a lot that could be rewritten. martha: i think generally hit is kinder to most presidents. down the road they have an affection for former presidents. it's just the way the country operates. i always wonder in terms of what he said about the dichotomy of how popular he is and it became clear the majority of electoral votes that the country wanted to go in a didn't direction. i think some of that came from the fact that people like him and they do feel fond when
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someone is about to be the next president. >> he never compromised. when he got the historic rebuke in 2010, it was like president clinton in 94. he sat down with congress and said we'll get something in the middle. but president obama never did that. he ruled unilaterally. minorities, college educated voters, millennials, you could write off working class whites. but there are a lot of working class whites in the country. if you give them the idea you have no appeal to them and you don't want to appeal to them. >> the white working class votes. that's where the autopsy is going, how do we get those voters back.
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municipal mcconnell said it was his mission to deny barack obama his agenda. martha: you can count the times they sat down together. so we'll see the prime minister who said he wished he had "the art of the deal" when he went to the lt negotiation. bill: bill o'reilly reacts to all of that we are watching now. also former mayor rudy giuliani could be in the next cabinet. might he be the next secretary of state? >> he is one of 8-10 advisors close to donald trump during the campaign. it was a small group of of us. and i know he would serve the president according to his best andop highest views.
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martha: we get a briefing from the house gop leadership. we'll keep an eye on it and let you know if there is any news that develops out of that on capitol hill. bill: moments ago you heard it live, president-elect trump narrowing his short list of top cabinet positions. president obama talking about his legacy in the face after stunning upset. >> i think i can make a strong argument the policies we put forward were the right ones, we have grown faster than just about any advanced economy, the cub triis indisputably better off, and those folks who voted for the president-elect are better off than they were when i came into office. bill: bill o'reilly and james
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patterson with their book "give please a chance." how are you, gentlemen. i want to ask you about the book in a minute. he said people think i did a pretty good job and we are a better country because of the policies i implemented. >> what do you expect him to say in losing an election he wasn't a part of, he believes his 8 years were successful and he will point to the job approval rating over 50%. but in my belief system as i said last night on "the factor," he alienated just as many americans as he helped, and hillary clinton took the brunt
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of that. bill: the millions of americans excluded by the administration have put an end to the inclusion delusion. who has been exclude in america. >> you have to watch my show. this should be mandatory for you because you need to come in with a frame of reference. i went down a whole list for 6 minutes. bill: got it right here. immigration, chicago, murders, gang violence. many urban folks mostly poor were not included. >> all the people who had to suffer through obamacare, they are not included in this grand vision the president is talking about, and that's why hillary clinton lost. bill: it must be difficult for this postmortem to go from the white house to athens, greece. it's obvious from this comments he suggested the republicans in
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congress did not want to work with him. kellyanne conway said repeatedly the excuse of divided government no longer exists. >> that's good tore kellyanne to say when he democrat will oppose everything trump does. bill: i would suggest a good and strong leader find a way through all that stuff. >> it's very hard. bill: when is the last time he went to capitol hill. president obama. when was the last time he had members of congress over for lunch or a beer? i think the american people noticed that and reacted to it. >> let's see if trump does it differently. bill: you are done with me. >> i am. >> "give please a chance." you can't change trump's cabinet because you are listening to the show.
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but you can change things about your own house right now. i think what page i like about this book, it's about teaching kids. it's about getting kids to say please. it's about creating a generation of please and thank you kid. that will solve a lot of problems. that's why we cooperate. >> when he called me, hey, i have this idea for a kids' book to get kids 2-6 interested in reading, and we have some great illustrators, and the the is to be polite and give please a chance. civility and o'reilly, i said are you sure you have got the right o'reilly? but when the outline came in and
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we started to discuss on the phone, jim and i, how to present this, it tied into my theme that children in america need to get back to traditional values. that is you need to say please and thank you, you need to be respectful to other children and adults. not call them by their first name. it's ms. weber, not usey. bill: how kid that disappear? >> have you been to a mall lately? >> two things are going to happen with this book. one, it will get parents and grandparents and uncles, it will get them over the table, having a fun experience with the book. every picture says please, please, please. a little kid with a big dog, a lost dog, please.
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bill: what does that word mean? >> it's a magical word. and we can actually do this. you in your house, you can get your kids to say please. my son is a please and thank you guy. he's 18 now, and he still is. if you can get them at 3. "good night moon" is a good book. but if you are 18 and still saying good night noon you would get him out of the house. >> they will lose themselves in the drawings of the book. and the please will permeate in. there is the old school way of raising kids is if you don't say please you are in your room for three hours. this is a better way. this is a fun way to learn to be polite. but i think it's so uplifting.
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to get the kids with a book in their hands rather than a dopey machine maccallum is playing with. if you start reading at a young age, you will be successful in academics. no hands. how about calling people by their last names. is that okay? all right. coming up. college students across the country are protesting the election of donald trump. now some ivy leaguers are pushing for stink wary campuses to protect students from his policies. bill: a massive sinkhole threatens to swallow a family's home. >> it started crack. the whole house sounded like -- it was horrible. it's devastating.
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martha: ivy leaguers are moving to make campuses sang waries for those hop may force deportation. faculty leaders at brown sent a here urging them to protect students, staff and their families. similar letters are being sent at harvard and yale. let's start with this draft letter from brown university alumnae it says trump's presidency puts the undocumented members of our community at unprecedented risk. the threat to students and workers requires a concrete and tangible response. words angelstures will not suffice.
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what's going on? >> the same sort of progressivism you see at colleges across the united states. this isn't just the i'veive league. your seeing it at the university of connecticut and madison as well. they do thought want to see the illegal immigrants deported. martha: we have to go to paul ryan who has just come forward and kevin mccarthy. >> as the speaker talked about we are working closely with president-elect trump and vice president-elect penss. the question is how we move forward and accomplish the promises made. yesterday the committee chairs and myself sent a letter to all government agencies requesting no new regulation be moved forward. this is not a new request. this request actually happened when barack obama won, rahm
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emanuel sent the same letter. it's time to change the tide to get the economy moving and a healthcare plan that works and get america back on the right track. >> we got this passed at conference today it's not just a slow dan. it says made in the u.s.a. there will be more things made in the u.s.a. when trump comes in. what an exciting opportunity that the american people have given us to work and go do the things that are necessary to get our country back on track. our members are excited about this opportunity. we are going to continue working in the weeks ahead to lay out the plan the first hundred days and the months after that are so critical to ng this country again. rebuilding the middle class that spoke out so loudly and getting our economy and country back on track.
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there is a lot of work ahead. but that's why we ran for congress. to have a moment like this where we can go big and go bold and pass the solutions that will get your country back on track. >> this opportunity that the people have entrusted with us to advocate the lead on their behalf is truly humbling. but it isn't time for victory laps or a time to pat ourselves on the back it's a time for real progress for the american people it's time to think big, reimagine this government and return the people's voice to the center of it. there are too many people across this country who feel like they are doing all the right things. they are working hard, paying the bills, and they are trying to pay their mortgage every month and they are falling behind. obamacare is making healthcare too expensive. va isn't listening. obamacare is regulating jobs out of their lives.
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we'll take these frustrations we are hearing and work together with president-elect trump to change the status quo. we have bold, specific agenda items that will make a difference in people's lives and address some of the biggest challenges of our time. i believe each plank in the agenda is very important. but this election reminded me that at the end of the day, article one of our constitution is what protects the people's voice in our govnment, and it's our role it's our mission to restore that voice. the american people have sent us back to washington with a mandate for change. we have a government united together with the purpose of bringing common sense principles back to our nation's capital. since the beginning of this year we traveled across the country getting your feedback on our better way agenda.
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this set of legislative priorities is tailored to helping hard-working americans achieve success. foremost among our priorities will be bringing balance back to our broken tax code by building a simpler, fairer, flatter code that benefits all americans, not just the well connected. a code that drives investment and job creation. a code that gets america growing through good old-fashioned private sector investment. the american people are ready for a change. with their voice as our guide we are ready to work as a unified government to help build an opportunity economy for all americans. >> questions?
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>> [inaudible] >> i will simply say the president is going to be judged on his results. this is a person who helped win an incredible victory and campaign. he will be judged on the results of this administration. we are eager to get and running to help him with his transition and make progress on the mandate that's been given to us by the american people. we are confident about moving forward and the transition and we are excited about getting to work for the american people. >> [inaudible] >> those decisions are being made with the transition team. we are sitting down with the trump administration and waiting along with our colleagues to come up with our game plan for lame duck and our game plan for 2017. it's very exciting.
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we have a lot of work to do and we are having constant conversations about how to do that but we haven't made any decisions yet. >> [inaudible] >> look, i'll let the transition team couple with all those things. look at this. donald trump is a multi-billion air successful businessman who surround himself with good people. he's a man who made great successes, created tens of thousands of jobs because he gets good advice from people around him. we'll do everything we can to help him be as successful as he's going to be.
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we have an exciting agenda. we have a transition team and we are excited about getting to work for the american people. >> [inaudible] do you think at any point -- >> i'm not looking backwards, i'm looking forward. i'm looking forward to how we make this work for the american people. how we help president-elect trump be the most successful president in our lifetimes. how we make good on our promises and get this cub trigoing again. 0% of the people in this nation think mayor case going down the wrong path. they said get on a better path. that's our job, mott to look backward but forward and help president-elect trump be
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successful so we can make good on our commitment to the american people to fix this country's big problems. >> donald trump just won [inaudible] are you repaired a lead a charge -- >> we are on the sampage with our president-elect. i speak with donald trump virtually every day. i spoke with mike pence this morning. we are going to make sure this is a successful administration and we are going to make sure the voices we heard from the american people in this election are acted upon. that we actually fix these problems. if you look at what obamacare did to our entitlement programs, it made them worse. we are going to fix that. we'll help figure the problems plaguing these countries, whether it's skyrocketing healthcare costs. fixing our national security, securing our border. these are things we are excited
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about, rolling up our sleeves and getting to work with our incoming president to make good on his promises. >> we are going to work on all these things in the transition. budge jet processes are things we are going to work on with the transition. it-take time to decide what bill comes where. but the point is, donald trump wants jobs. i talked to him so many times just this week. let's make sure we get people back to work and get the economy growing. let's get people back to work. this is something we share. this is something we are excited about work on with donald trump. that's why i'm confident we'll have a sunnified government that works hand in glove with this administration to make good on the commitments to get people
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back to work and fix this country's problems. thank you very much. martha: paul ryan talking about the agenda and the fact he has talked many times with president-elect trump over the course of this week. he said several times this week that he's excited about what the future hold and they think they are going to be able to answer the concerns they heard as they traveled across the country. they all seem very optimistic. of course, they will face opposition when they try to put these things through. but they have a unique opportunity to get some things done that they have not been able to do for a long time. as we heard earlier from chris collins. the representative from new york, he says they have a stockpile of things, legislation already in their hand that they would like to see passed quickly. bill: social security, border patrol, national security. they speak every day.
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you have to manage after a pretty rough campaign, having mike pence there as a go-between. having reince priebus from wisconsin. that bodes well for paul ryan and his relationship with the president-elect. martha: do you think peoplin the swamp are nervous? you have layers and layers of bureaucracy in washington, d.c. and a promise to freeze federal hiring. i think it will be fascinating to watch. bill: we hear it a lot and it never seems to take root. is this time different? we'll find out. a quick break here. coming up, more. martha: stay with us. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox.
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bill: action in dc and new york. mike pence will be there. are we going to get some news today or chill out? martha: he doesn't think it's
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going to happen till thursday but they will go through the list. a lot of the names that you're hearing out there may or may not be the people appointed to the positions. it'll be pretty interesting. bill: we watch. martha: have a good day, everybody. bill: bye bye. jenna: right now waiting major announcements as top contender emerges for top job, that's secretary of state. >> hello, i'm erin in for jon scott. speaker paul ryan wrapped up a news conference that he and fellow republicans are ready to work hand in glove with the trump administration to try to fithe country's problems. the speaker also learned about his future today.


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