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thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that's it is it for this "special report," fair, balanced and unafraid. no online show tonight shutting down in 2016. back in the new year new and improved. here's tucker. ♪ ♪ >> good evening. and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the show that is the sworn and morality enemy of lying, pomposity, smugness and group senate committee. three weeks after the mr. election and it is still not over. recounts are about to commence in a number of states including the he key battle grounds michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania. process is expected to take weeks and cost millions. the justification for all of this? mutter rance on the left that vladimir putin may have rigged the election for donald trump. the driving force behind the recount is green party candidate jill stein. joining me now is there stein's campaign manager david cobb who himself green party candidate for president in 2004. david, thanks a lot for coming on tonight. >> thank you so much. but i too want to correct
the record that we don't know are not making any allegations about foreign cyber attacks or anything else. >> then what is the point? >> well,. >> so what were the problems? >> the problems are that we were -- in those three states what we saw were statistical anomalies that were not expected. we saw results that the polling data shows were not true. and most importantly, tucker, what we're seeing is voting systems that cannot be trusted. what we see are the use of technology that is highly problematic that has proven to be hacked by security experts. so all we're asking for is a recount in order to have confidence in the integrity of the election results. that's all. >> a couple of things you said we saw results we didn't expect that goes for a lot of us. polls are not a reality a prediction of what might happen. they can be wrong. why wouldn't the emphasis be on why the polling didn't accurately predict what
actually happened? >> you know, tucker, that's a fair question. and what we're saying is this. the polls don't -- about what people might be doing don't matter. what matters is the voting results themselves. >> that's right. >> a recount is allowed under law. a recount is a legal right of a candidate. we have met those legal rights. and we are going to have the opportunity to ensure that there is integrity in the voting system. >> okay. >> that's something that i hope you and your viewers would agree is something that would be good for all of us. >> that goes without saying. i'm for recounts if there is any evidence of fraud or mistakes. there isn't in this case and everybody agrees with that including the secretary of state of michigan no even credible allegations to that effect. hillary clinton's lawyers said there is no evidence that there were any fraud or malfeasance in this election. so, what is the wore justification for putting the country through this? i don't understand. >> well, what i'm telling you is this. there is a heel right to secure confidence in the
integrity of the election results. >> recounts have a very good way to do that. in 2004, i, as the green party nominee, demanded a recount in ohio. what we found from that was just how untrustworthy the election system is. did you know that two election officials went to jail in cuyahoga county in cleveland in 2004? >> okay. just to bring you back to what we're talking about. >> direct recorded. >> i don't want to interrupt you in, mr. cobb. i want to talk about thection a and what is happening now. the justification with respect, doesn't really match that of your candidate, jill stein who was on "the view" today and for the sake of my job i watched the entire thing and she said this i'm quoting now this is morning. the machines are really tamper friendly. they're easy to hack. now, as far as i know. none of those machines is connected directly to the internet. how exactly would they be hacked and by whom? what is she alleging. don't be sneaky tell me what she means. >> those machines are in
fact connected to the internet for certain periods of time number one. number two, those machines, especially the dre. the so-called black box voting machines are using proprietary software. and most importantly, there is no guaranteed paper trail that we can check. so at the end of the day, tucker, what we're saying is we would like to actually investigate the concern that thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of americans have. would do not have confidence in the integrity of the results. ronald reagan himself said trust but verify. that's all we're asking for. >> but, again, before you start to tell people that they shouldn't have confidence in the election results, you ought to provide some evidence that something wrong happened. and you don't. i mean, it actually shakes people's confidence. if i'm sitting on commercial airliner and federal officials say we want to make the sure the plane doesn't blow up. we have no reasons. we want to clay your fight to make sure it doesn't blow
up. that doesn't secure our confidence. it shakes it. >> with all respect i disagree. at the end of the day recounts should increase the confidence if, in fact, no tampering is found. if, in fact, the election is accurate, we are not sailing that the election results are going to change. we are saying we have a right to have confidence in the integrity of our election system. that is what we are doing. i'm very proud of that. >> okay. and you're also raising a ton of money doing it more than twice what i think dr. stein raised during this campaign season. but answer this question. you're suggesting that these machines could have been hacked. how specifically? you raised the suggestion back it up. tell me how the russians or some hostile foreign actor. >> no. that's not fair. number one, you bring up the money as a throw away, a dig at my integrity and my candidate's integrity. >> oh, no. >> very important to understand. let me finish, please. at the end of the day it's important to understand that we raised all of that money in small donor donations,
$47 average. 140,000 people have made donations. only 414 of them have been over $1,000. the money that's being raised is pouring in from ordinary people. >> let me make even more. >> from people that had concerns. >> pledge this then and i'm not calling your integrity into question but you raised it with will you pledge now that that money will only go to recount efforts and none of that will be spent for party activities or future campaign. >> that money will absolutely be used for either this recount, future recounts or election integrity enforce. >> future recounts or election integrity efforts. whatever that means. >> correct. >> let me just get you -- i don't know that what that means that doesn't satisfy my question. let me ask you this once more, how exactly could these machines have been hacked since you raised the possibility and your candidate did so today? how could that have happened? >> listen, harry hursty, commuter expert. multiple computer experts have in fact hacked the
machines in play in these states. they have been done. i don't know how. i don't know if. i know they have been in the past. and because they have been in the past, it is reasonable to have concerns and if those concerns are reasonable concerns, then we ought to have a recount. >> during a campaign. >> that's all we are saying. >> a voting machine -- just pause you are making news here. during an election campaign, a voting machine machine was hacked by someone. >> then you are not saying the same thing. that's never happened in american history that i'm aware of. >> what i'm saying is these machines have been hacked. not during an election, but it has been proven that they are hackable. that is absolutely true, tucker. >> but you don't know how, you don't know by whom and there is no evidence it actually happened? >> i don't know if. >> the discrepancies that you described. the 7% discrepancy between the voting machines in urban areas and those not in urban areas is explainable boy the different demographics in those areas. there is nothing underlying
this. perhaps? i mean of course. it happened in many states. people vote in many ways. >> i see i do not believe these recounts should happen. >> i'm open-minded. before you whip people in to its tear i can't you ought to present some facts. >> it's interesting because we have a right and we're exercising a right and candidate under law. we have filed the filing fee. we have followed all of the procedures. as somebody who frequently talks about the rule of law, i think you'll agree if we have a right and exercise that right, we should be allowed to do so. we should be allowed to do so without being maligned. >> at the outset this, i never contested your light to do it. you have the right to do all kinds of things. whether those are -- thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it? >> thank you. >> well the trump economic team is finally coming together. today president-elect trump announced more picks for his cabinet, big ones. correspondent peter doocy is
still camped outside the trump tower on fifth avenue in midtown, manhattan with the very latest. peter, what's going on? >> tucker, today's high profile transition talks were spread out between here in midtown where i am and d.c. where you are. at trump that you are earlier steve mnuchin was already on the job heading upstairs after hitting the morning shows to promise the biggest tax cuts since he was about the. dan coats. former georgia governor said he and in trump talked about can be net -- also will be forever senate and connecticut twice and run world entertainment. linda mcmahon came by and says she feels pretty optimistic a job offer could be coming her way. >> we talked about business and entrepreneurs and creating jobs. we talked about fda.
we had a really good conversation. that remains to be seen. stay tuned. >> while all that was going on in manhattan, the vice president elect was getting a lay of the land in d.c. meeting with two critical parties in january. mitch mcconnell whose life elaine chao was nominated to be treasury second. paul ryan lodge time bush administration official called for trump to drop out of the tap race in october. told reporters out of her way transmission office today her meeting went great. the secretary of state wish list has been widdled down to five names. mayor giuliani, general petraeus, joh bob corker. fox news contributor and then there is mitt romney following dinner last night at fancy french restaurant. romney was his praise the way trump has handled
himself after the election said he says is hard to do. he did not say he is ready to come on board with the trump administration. we saw and heard from mr. trump what he thinks of romney after having now have two chances to size him up. tucker? >> i'm sure we will find out all the details. peter, thanks a lot for that those cabinet picks are not onlied incident occasion of what the economy under president bush trump would look like. last night carrier announced released a keel to keep 1,000 jobs jobs in los angeles. here to assess what it might mean going forward steve moore trump economic advisor and robert rubio former secretary of alicia. author of saving capitalism for the many not the few. robert reich. you must concede keeping jobs in this country something have you been for for many years is a good thing. >> i think it's a great thing, tucker.
1,000 jobs staying in indiana instead of going to mexico is a step in the rite collection. i don't know how that squares with bringing on steve mnuchin from wall street who has been spending the last 20 years basically pushing companies to outsource abroad. there is some inconsistency there isn't there, steve moore? >> well, been, you know, we're the ones who are going to save capitalism because it needs saving. you look at the whole economic program, tucker, the tax reductions, the pro-measure america energy policy and regulatory relief. this is be a rah general da requesting to create essentially millions of jobs. on this issue of carrier is it correct for the president to intervene with a company to try to save jobs and i say why not? why not? i think it was a good thing. >> but, can i stop you there. >> one guess at a time, tucker. i think it sets a good example that this president is very serious about
bringing jobs back to the industrial mid west. >> may i just ask steve moore. >> i thought that was a fair question about goldman sachs. this is the third treasury secretary i have had in my lifetime in recent history goldman trump d ngt run a pro-wall street campaign. a little weird you couldn't find someone from goldman to run treasury? >> look, i worked with steve miewnken on the tax bill. i behind him smart. he wants to cut tax rates. i think he is a very good choice. now, lock, it is interesting now golden sax people seem to always appear in both administrations. there were goldman sachs people. robert was a goldman sachs guy. is there something wrong with that. >> it's not that there is something wrong with goldman sachs per se. as i recall, crump ran as sort of a populist. he criticized receipt. he talked about not only draining the swamp but also how wall street had sort of created a lot of problems
for american workers and here he is doing just what every president does when it comes to a treasury secretary. you turn to wall street. and other than turn to goldman sachs how you can justify that? >> bob, can i ask a question of you though? so are the american economy at this stage is heavily reliant on the finance sector. kind of makes sense in that way. how do you move our economy from basically a financed based economy to something else and better? what's the answer? >> tucker, one step you take,i hope that donald trump does do that president-elect trump to be accurate. that is a major inthat from a jurecket program. also gte rid of all the tax breaks like wall street has. carried interest rule that so many mergers and hedge fund managers and all these other people have been using and abusing for so many years. wall street has extraordinary political influence. you cut the political influence of wall street. you don't put a wall streeter in your treasury
department. >> bob, that's exactly -- what you just described is exactly what we're going to do. i mean, tucker, we are going cut the tax rates. we're going to get of a lot of the special interest deductions and carveouts in the tax system for particular companies. we're not going to -- by the way, we're not going to have the government build 500 million solar panels as hillary clinton wanted to do. we do want to take the special interest out of the tax code. greatly simplify it that's something that you and i should agree on. i want to drain the swamp, so do you. >> the carried interest loophole impossible to defend. >> we get rid of it by the a. >> chuck schumer. >> gottible rid of it donald trump has not come to office. he is already filling his administration with what wall streeters, with billionaires. i mean, i don't understand now you can say that the reiters and the billionaires are going to -- they are
going to make the tax code simpler and get rid of all the benefits for the tax benefits for all the wealthy people. this doesn't stand to reason, does it? >> let me answer the question. we are going to take away all those special interest breaks. it is a centerpiece to donald trump's tax plan that the carry interest provision is gone. you should applaud that and he has made a big deal. remember, tucker. he made a big teal out of that at the' debate. carried interest loophole is gone. i don't understand why -- i would think that would be rice would be on our agenda. i think he would like what with we're talking with. >> why is did still there? no one has ever explained to me who after eight years of obama that matha is still there and democrats are not throwing a fit about it i have never understood that. >> tucker, i think they should and a lot of democrats have. a lot of republicans and democrats have go to the same trough when it comes to campaigns. that trough is wall street. that's why it bothers me frankly that we have another wall streeter right there at
the treasury department. >> when you talk about things that didn't get done, you talked about infrastructure, bob. you know one of the things that we needed in terms of infrastructure is pipelines. and donald trump has said in his first 100 days we are going to start rebuilding the keystone pipeline and another network of pipelines across this country. that's not going to cost the taxpayer any money. >> that's tiny part. we are talking about highways and all the piping in america. we're talking about all sorts of from a structure we need. >> we're going to do that, too. a lot 6 infrastructure that wasn't built under barack obama that needs to be talked about over trump. >> we have to wait until tomorrow. email me. steve and bob thanks a lot for join me. i appreciate it. ♪ >> and now it's time for twitter storm nightly forecast of social media most powerful weather patterns. dense fog of liberal academia looming over
american university here in washington. campus reform went there and asked students a pretty simple question. do you have a more favorable opinion of fidel castro or of donald trump? here's some of their responses. >> like at this very moment i have a better opinion of fidel castro. >> i feel that he really changed cuba in so many ways that really made possibilities for the counsel ban people that are nearly endless. >> right now i don't think donald trump is very god. i know that fidel castro. i think he has proven himself at least in the long term to be more favorable in my opinion than donald trump. >> man, i live about five blocks from that camera shot and it makes me shutter to think those are my neighbors. twitter agreed by the way. jennifer fellow wrote this the hope for our country's future hopelessly stupid and exft in their stupidity. that is the hallmark confidence in their stupidity.
mojo elliott wrote this their parents have been thrilled paying tuition bill. i mope they all have careers at wal-mart. brain warning works unfortunately true. finally gregory vance wrote. this although it took 90 years to accomplish. fidel castro finally became a good communist. yes, the best kind. that's tonight's twitter storm. up next, "newsweek" magazine was a brit premature with its madam president edition. that's not only the most remarkable part. wait until you hear what they wrote about her. also donald trump's deesktive supreme court may be his longest lasting legacy. take a look at the justices he could name. who would be most like justifiable scalia. science has actually real estated in on this question. answers apred,
j this is pretty embarrassing. "newsweek" was forced to recall 125,000 copies of a special madam president edition. two copies printed one for trump and one for clinton. only ones for clinton were sent to news stands on election night. how did that happen. editor for "newsweek." good to see you. >> good to see you, tucker. everyone makes screwups like this and i'm not here to mock you of that content unbelievable. so unbelievable that i have got to put it on the screen. i want to read part of the introduction madam president edition. it describes this as the tonal of the election grew darker and more bizarre by the day, president-elect hillary clinton went high when her opponent and supporters went even lower. no stranger to trudging through the myer and misogyny. president clinton issues
based campaign as a handful of trump's deplorable supporters called for repealing the 19th amendment. it goes on and on. fear and hate-paced conservative. it's not petraeusless. it's not even hate graphic. it's pornographic. it's soviet in his devotion to hillary clinton. who wrote this? >> it's embarrassing. and let me tell you how it happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. >> "newsweek" like a lot of publications puts out special commemorative issues. you have probably seen them on the news stands. 7 ath anniversary of d-day. we have one out about harrison ford's acting career. this is a big part of the magazine business now. and what we did for the election was the company that we subcontract to as you said in the intro produced two editions one president trump one madam president. they both, you know, the madam president one mistakenly went out, which was the first embarrassment. hae
happened. >> you can see how it happened. >> yeah it could happen. the writing on this is shall we say not up to the. >> pure throne sniffing. dnc talking points. who on your staff wrote that. >> no one on our staff wrote that we subcontract that to a company. >> when you read it before it went out what did you say. >> no we didn't. >> you didn't read it before it went out. >> we subcontract commemorative issues to a company. this is pretty common this the magazine business now. company that does it for us does it for reader's digest. >> nobody read this before. >> let me just finish. yeah. it's sort of been done on a separate track. and we did not review it before it went out. >> whoa, but what if they had reprinted mine comp. >> if they had reprinted mike comp that would have been even worse. >> what did fox just say? we're going to give an hour of prime time air to some random crazy person and not look at it before it goes on? >> look, this is a company that has done a lot of work
for a lot of other magazines, scientific americans, cbs. they generally do good work. in this case they really did not. what we're going to do from now on is really take a look at these things even though we at regular "newsweek." you are a old friend of mine seems so reckless and crazy to let someone else take over your magazine and not check what they are writing it? >> is a separate track. it has the "newsweek" name on it ultimately bare responsibility. that is like with the world series. >> it says "newsweek." maybe i'm dumb like if i felt if apple released an iphone in bangladesh that didn't work i would hold them responsible for. >>it no question the writing you signed and it one of the daily caller reporters did a good job fleshing it out. no question. >> what kind of blu blew my mind
not just that other covers. this tweet came out i believe donald trump was institutionalized in a mental hospital for a nervous breakdown which is why he wouldn't release his medical records. no evidence of that at all. "newsweek" wouldn't answer any questions why did he that or back up his claim and then they allowed him to keep covering the campaign. why? that seems really nutty to me making an allegation like that and not backing it up. >> well, i can't speak to that. i don't know about it. let me just say this, i mean, curt has done incredible reporting for "newsweek." i'm 100 percent behind what he has done in the magazine in terms of assessing through donald trump's finances he did a great cover how cuba embargo. >> i'm not saying right or wrong but such an anti-trump advocate and to so clear on twitter feed and in his pieces you can't pass him off as a reporter, can you? >> well, look, i think his
writing, you know, speaks for itself and people are going to have to judge it as it is. i think for the stories, you know, leaving tweets aside, i think judging from the stories in "newsweek." >> did he write this? [ laughter ] >> now you are just baiting me. >> great to see you. thanks for joining us. >> congratulations. >> you are a great man for coming on. >> thanks for having me. >> donald trump's election night stunned around the country as you just heard or shocking his support from minority voters bigger than expected. in a second we are going to talk to an african-american trump voter about why he cast his ballot the way he did and what's happened since.im that newly listed, mid-century ranch with the garden patio will be gone. or you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. cockpit sounds and music crescendo. skip the bank, skip the waiting, and go completely online. get the confidence that comes from a secure, qualified mortgage approval in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan
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order now at ancestrydna.com and save 10%. we were told by the left for a year and a half that trump was racist. that's the one thing you knew about him, is he racist. and not a single nonwhite voter would ever support him because that would be insane. but it turns out that trump had more than double the support from african-american voters than mitt romney did in 2012. not a ton but double. how did he pull that off? here now is one of those voters, justin mcclinton who wrote a really interesting and nice piece on that, i think in the federalist. justin, it's great to see you tonight. why did you vote for donald trump? >> so the main reason i decided to vote for donald trump was really mostly based on policy. i kind of zoned out the media. i kind of quickly realized hey we are in a echo chamber. people are saying pretty ridiculous stuff. where are the tones? where can i get the information about each candidate's policy.
i went to the websites. and i liked the things that i read on donald trump's website a bit better than i did on hillary's. >> what did you like? what jumped out at you? >> so what jumped out at me in particular was trump's policy on education and particularly being in favor of school choice. so, you know, the first thing that comes up under that particular part of the site is him talking about how he is going to support the school choice effort. i work in a charter school myself on the south side of chicago. while i didn't agree with everything they were doing, i really thought they were doing some other good things for the students. so you know that was really my biggest thing. this charter school support and i think betsy devotes is going to be a pretty good education secretary and i hope they continue to go along those lines. >> what's interesting if you look to get onto the school choice question for a second. if you look at the support for african-americans school choice overwhelming over 75% in the last poll i saw. the naacp reports to speak for all african-americans recently came out against it. there seems to be a massive disconnect between
african-american voters and their purported leaders on that question. why? >> it's unfortunate that you see that kind of disconnect between the organizations. and i don't know that kind of goes on at the head. there was actually a prominent black lives matter leader in saint paul, minnesota i would say, organization, he was actually -- he worked in education. and he had noticed that in his community in particular that charter schools had, you know, they have been doing some really good things for the youth. and, you know, for that he had to kind of distance himself from the organization. and unfortunate those organizations don't always represent everyone's opinion. >> so agree or not, on school choice or any of the other issues, you are looking at this in terms of what trump is saying he will do rather than through the lens of identity politics and that makes you very different from most voters your age, i think. >> yeah. i mean, for me, it's about american issues. and the issues that i believe n particular and, you know, i try to vote with my head and trying to be
informed about things. like i had said, i like the policies i saw on the website. >> yo you had this really interesting line in your piece that jumped out at me. you said you went to majority black high school and majority black college and then you wound up at a college that was majority white and you said that was the really politically intense and troubling experience to you you said that, quote, a great benefit of racial homage iety politics goal. >> while i was at more house. intelligent young women would challenge me on certain positions debates on campus. you can have a debate without feeling pressured not to hide your true opinions and schools it was just a big focus on getting your work done and making sure you are learning and getting everything you are supposed to get from a college environment. while i feel like at the graduate school i attended which was a pretty large university in california, there is just a lot of fear
and people -- you know, it feels like they can't have those conversations that i thought were so influential and crucial to my college experience. it kind of saddens me a little bit that they have some trump chalkings and that is kind of seen as a bit of an attack. for me, i kind of see it like hey, if people auto could have open conversations about why they might be interested in voting for trump or why they like some of his policies, then maybe we wouldn't have this kind of back and forth where it feels like people are attacking each other and causing all this discomfort. >> if you are a member of the group you are assumed to be supporting a specific party line and if you don't you are attacked. we have seen this before. justin, thank you for joining us. we really appreciate it? >> thanks for having me, tucker. ♪ >> well, here's something new. hillary clinton apparently has a new title. it's not president. it's this. wandering folk hero. that's right. the rebranding is documented in a new vanity fair article. that magazine still exists by the way. called how hillary clinton went from presidential
candidate to wandering focus hero. fulk hero. gushes with feel good pictures of clinton doing every day activities like hiking and grocery shopping. things she hasn't done in 30 years. chronicled in hrc in the wild. a lot of things you can say about hillary. focufolk hero? you really have to work at vanity fair to believe that the ohio state attacker was inspired by isis? what radicalized him? my next guest says islamophobia played a role. in other words, it's your fault mrs. mr. and mrs. islamophobic american. that's next. plus, if you were king for a day and had salute power to do whatever you wanted to do, how would you make the country better? you sent a lot of really interesting suggestions in. we have got the best coming up. ♪ ♪ ,
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investigators now say the suspect in monday's attack at ohio state university acted alone when he plowed into a crowd and attacked people with a butcher's knife. the fbi says he was inspired by isis propaganda. how do you go from refugee to isis sympathizer in two years? in august of this year abdul azach alli ar alli are a alli a. people looking at me muslim praying i don't know what they're going to think. what's going to happen. some like our next guest from georgetown university agreed -- argued this fear and alienation can lead to radicalization. the professor joins us now. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> you wrote a piece about this earlier this year. long before this attack. but, basically arguing that islamophobia, dislike or fear of muslims is one of the drivers of terrorism. you said. this what can we do about the tiny fraction of muslims we saw in intrarn, paris and
brussels. you don't address problems within the religion or the islamic community. i turn it instead back on america and the west by saying our intolerance causes. this am i misreading your point. >> i think it's complicated, right? the outset we need to make clear there is never a justification for a tragedy such as this one, right? >> right. >> irrespective from the fact that someone may have suffered from bigotry or -- on religious identity. that doesn't justify taking matters into your own hand or perpetratorring or inflicting violence on students or professors. with respect to the article you are referencing i was relying on research that came out of stanford university that showed that anti-muslim bigotry and discrimination are what we call xenophobe i can't can contribute to a sense what they term as cultural homelessness. this idea particularly for newcomers, for immigrants to this country they don't necessarily feel that they
identify with their home country where they originally came from and they also feel alienated from their new host country. >> right. >> so in this case the united states of america. >> but you can see why this looks a lot like victim blaming. so you have had an awful lot of americans killed and injured by islamic terror in the last 8 years. a lot. almost 100 killed. 350 or more injured. and you're basically saying that that happened because america is not hospitable enough to muslims. that seems unfair. >> absolutely not. first take a step back and understand there is actually a greater threat of terrorism from white supremacist groups and right wing extremists than there are from individuals who self-identify as muslims. >> that's just not true. >> it actually. >> no, it's not there haven't been 100 americans killed in the last 8 years, 350 wounded from right wing extremists in the united states. that's not true. and if you claim it is, i would ask you to cited your source. >> the fbi. so according to the fbi. >> the fbi? >> the fbi data indicates that there have been more acts of terrorism committed
by right wing extremists and white supremacists. in addition to that last year. >> in the last 8 years more than 100 people killed by white supremacist and more than 150 wounded by white supremacists in america that's not true. >> actually, i'm referring to the number of acts of domestic terrorism as opposed to victims. >> okay. look. obviously you are making a point that sun supportable. i'm talking about actual acts of terrorism, people die, people get wounded. we can key fine terrorism many different ways. i'm saying we have had an awful lot of people killed by islamic terrorists what i hear you saying is we are not going to take a moment why this is happening within our community but instead we are going to look at the larger community and blame them. that's what i see happening. >> that's unfortunate. you know, first, it is important to understand that the data that i'm relying on comes from law enforcement. specifically the fbi as well as elite academic instiewgs such as duke university. >> so let's say there are 10,000 right wing extremist
acts every day. it still doesn't answer the question why are people coming to this country in the name of islam and killing americans and don't you think you should pause for main and think what's gone wrong within your community? >> i don't think anything has gone wrong in my community. first of all, there are about 3 to 7 million muslim americans in this country. and the individual who perpetrated this atrocity, you know, at this university is far from representative of that 3 to 7 million. >> i don't think he is, either. i'm not suggesting that. i'm just saying i'm episcopalian and if you saw 100 people murdered by ebusiness call pailians murdered in the name of arch canterbury say what the hell is this? what can we do to stop it? >> let's take a moment to reflect upon that. when there are extremists that perpetrate a bombing at an abortion clinic in the name of christianity, as americans we know enough about christians and christianity psychological space between that act that was committed by that individual and. >> i'm sorry. i can't take that seriously.
the scale is just not proportionate or comparable at all. >> i would disagree with you. i think that's. >> i actually wrote a whole book on crime. i know what the numbers are. it's not even close. it's not even close. are you really tell me there is no soul searching that you think muslim americans have to go through. >> i think it's important to realize that muslim americans are your doctors and teachers and politicians and nurses. >> tiny percentage are terrorists. why is this happening? not just the fault of white americans. that's what you are saying. >> why is it that the conversation and the narrative focuses solely and exclusively on those individuals who have criminals ago opposed to the vast population who are peaceful and contributing positively. >> i get your defensiveness. i get that decent muslim americans feel under attack and feel like being unfairly portrayed as terrorists. i understand that. at some point you have to say it is a real upon and discrediting all of us. if we address it we have to take it seriously. >> i think our community has been taking it seriously. the community is very much
involved in self-policing. they are very much involved with cooperating with law enforcement officials. research shows that the majority of tips that law enforcement officials receive about terrorist plots come from muslim americans. >> i would suggest -- something is going wrong and i think it's important to be honest about it we are out of time unfortunately. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> president-elect trump has promised to make supreme court particular picks that are consistent with the late supreme court justice antonin scalia. what does that mean? who does he have in mind? shannon bream, the one person who can answer that question joins us next. ♪
see them in their native habitat. tonight one of the greatest of the greatest people shannon bream joins us. i have a couple questions. supreme court, and you are a lawyer. president-elect has said 20 times i want someone like scalia. there is this new study that evaluates his 21 candidates. how does that work? >> yeah. they have got a scale of what they call scalianess. upof photographers log where they can trail the judicial trail all the people on the list. gave us a list of 21. the president-elect said he is picking from this list. he said it repeatedly. and so unless he completely breaks that promise. you know, we know who we are looking at. gone through the list and federal judges say most lion up most like scalia. pryor and gore who doesn't mind dissenting from the pack. hallmarks like scalia. they have a scale for that. >> i love that.
scalianess. it's like th ricter scale. i noticed a glint on the fourth finger of your left hand. you have a wedding ring on. >> i do. surprising. i have been married almost 21 years. but listen, you know that a few months ago i lost the simple gold band that i got married with almost 21 years ago there is a closeup picture of it. can you see i mean it's not an expensive ring but it means everything to me. and several months ago when i was traveling campaign trail, weddings, graduations one particular trip numerous cities i got home and realized i could not find it in nigelry bag and ripped apart my luggage. i called hotels and restaurants trying to find it i just finely three weeks later i confessed to my husband this is mr. sheldon bream. you know him well. >> sheldon is a friend of mine. >> i tearfully confessed to him that i could not find it and i was so afraid of how he was going to react. he was a total sweetheart about it i was just heart broken about it i posted about it this last week because on thanksgiving we were down in florida with my
parents. and, you know, i had on a pair of shorts which i hadn't in a while because we had been in d.c. and it's freezing up there as i was sitting down to read a book. beautiful, sunshiny day and greatful about being there and recovering from the campaign trail. i reached down to lip bomb chapstick following ought of my pocket the gold ring, sun glimpse fallen out of that same pocket. i had prayed and prayed. i given up hope i was going to see it again. there it was before thanksgiving. simplest things. nothing in my jewelry box is more valuable than. this i posted a story about this on facebook. it went viral and some people told me about their great stories about losing something precious to them and praying and hoping and in most cases getting it again. sometimes having to make peace that they lost it for good. i'm super grateful. >> how did it get there? that's an amazing story by the way. >> i think back in june when i lost track of the ring. i would have been wearing shorts on these trips that i
was on. and this pair of shorts i guess i have to confess that they got put away without going in the laundry because otherwise that ring would have been clanking around in the washer and dryer. i think i would have found it but i just had searched everywhere. i tried to tell myself, listen, i said god if somebody else has found at this prayed if somebody else is wearing it brings them the same happiness i have h you know when you have been married more than five minutes you have to keep those vows and have ups and downs. many times i locked at the ring and thought about the promises we had made. when it showed back up right before thanksgiving, it just gave me a whole new reason to be thankful. >> i love it we have the nicest people here at fox. it is not phoney. it's totally real. especially in your case. shannon thanks a lot. that's wonderful. >> great to see. >> you great to see you. coming up, almost time to tell us what you would do if you were king for a day. you can always tweet us at tucker carl son to find if yours made the cut. actually great ones tonight. stay tuned.
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