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welcome to the "journal editorial report." trump announced that he will appoint retire general -- billionaire investor wilbur ross for commerce. for his central theme this week, vice president-elect mike pence went to his home state to reach a deal with carrier.
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the company announced wednesday that it's keeping more than 1,000 jobs in indianapolis instead of moving them to mexico. let's go to our columnists. let's start with general mattis, good pick? >> terrific. my joke about mattis is that he can scare the feathers off a chicken. you want a defense secretary who's going to inspire respect. a secretary of defense is going to inspire the respect of his generals and of american troops. i think mattis, he was the first general to go into afghanistan and into kandahar province in 2001 as a one star, this is a guy who is well known in the defense department, he's seen as sort of a scholar, a warrior,
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he's exactly the kind of guy, i don't think we have seen the likes since george matthews. >> he's going to have to have a special dispensation from congress that, takes a lot for him to serve as the secretary. >> i think we have to support the civilian control of the military, but mattis has been out of the military for about three years, he has the confidence of john mccain and other senators on the senate armed services committee so i don't think that's going to be particularly problematic. nor by the way would it be problematic if former general petraeus served in a cabinet position. >> i agree with you on both. what about his economic choices. let's turn to those. we got steve mnuchin, and
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ross -- >> steve mnuchin talks got growth. he's a tax cutter, he's not good on individual tax rates. but we could have done worse. on commerce i don't think we could have done worse, ross has a long history of being a protectionist and in the commerce department send a very specific message to international free trade. >> yet that's what donald trump ran on, james. >> he also ran on draining the swamp and mnuchin and ross are not a couple of swamp drainers. >> why is that? >> especially on ross, given
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this protectionist bent, he's ramping up the capitalist cronyism in washington. >> that's the big problem with protectionism, isn't it? it's basically government intervening on behalf of certain companies to help them out. >> this government is about to get a lot more important and powerful in a very bad way in washington. as far as steve mnuchin, i think he will be generally favor essential in his quest to cut taxes, but he's squeamish on individual tax rates. >> helping the economy grow with anti-regulation, deregulation,
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is that the protectionism we're going to see in the trump economic program? >> absolutely. one thing about the mnuchin and ross picks, what you've got here are two days that the left are already saying are from wall street and the intention from the left and wall street is going to be make them out to be the kind of old-fashioned open populist thing that he ran on and make the trump campaign feel guilty about this, and play on those instincts so they won't cut top rates so they won't do some of the reform things that trump said he did. there is a bit -- they have not settled it and these guys are the perfect examples of those two warring camps. >> let's take up the specific example this week which is is carrier deal. trump went to indiana, took credit for saving these jobs, on the other hand he really did hold a gun to the head, i hate to use that metaphor, but it's
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true. he really said, look, we're going to put some tariffs on your products if you don't keep these jobs here, if you move that plant? >> yeah, it's a very worrisome signal about where the administration is going here. we worried about it, but now he's proved he's going to do these kinds of things. remember, he would not have been able to put tariffs just on carrier products, that's illegal. he would have had to put some broadly across the industry. >> you can actually sanction an individual company, some lawyers are saying trump can do that. >> as your solicitor, i would say -- however, let's keep in mind also that mike pence, the subsidies are $7 million from the state of indiana. plus he's the head of the economic development corp in indiana. if there were about the $7
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million subsidy, mike pence could have done it long ago. he could have done it in the summertime. but it's trump saying to carrier, united technologies which owns carrier has a lot of defense contracts, keep that in mind, and if you want to think about staying up all night thinking about what i can do to you, carrier was worried. >> he also did say we're going to cut your corporate tax rates from 35 to 15, we're going to make a lot more -- we're going to make a lot more competitors tive as well. >> for business to thrive, it requires a certain amount of predictability, and when you have a charismatic president who swoops in to save jobs, this was a tactic that vladimir putin likes to employ for political
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effect going to one company or another and telling them not to cut jobs, it's a dangerous and populous precedent. donald trump plans to leave his global empire, but just what does he have planned and will it be enough to silence his critics?
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what do you think he should do. >> this is a very tex, so i think he has to make a clean break, get rid of his assets and sell them and put the cash proceeds in a blind trust of stocks and bonds that would be
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in the hands of someone that's not his children. >> i think he would like to find a way, even if he sells the company, to at least have the children still do the business. >> i think it's more a -- the question is whether he can set up a plan that satisfies these questions and there are a lot of them. >> the question also is does he want his presidency defined by endless media and congressional tussles over whether his policies may be engineered to do favors for one business or another whether it's the united states or abroad and if that's how he wants his presidency to wind up, that will be a shame. that's presumably not why he ran for office. is for example if his tax reform gives some benefit to real estate properties, democrats will say, wait a minute, you're
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helping the donald trump organization. james, what do you think about this? >> certainly, we intend to see how he manages this conflict, we'll keep a close eye, but do i think it's reasonable for him to liquidate all of these unliquid assets. high-rises are not something you can sell quickly. we don't want to apply rules to him that we haven't applied to his spread dpes sorry. >> other people have done that all along. what happened to jimmy carter. >> basically all of his predecessors have liquidated their assets in one form or
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another. >> they didn't all go to cash. >> but they were in a blind trust and they didn't know what those assets were. >> it's certainly within his interest when he comes out in december to say here's my plan and here's how i'm going to avoid conflicts. stepping back a little, i think people did understand, because he was hawking his products during the campaign trail, what businesses he was in, they're relatively transparent. for instance i had a problem with the way mike bloomberg ran this city. i don't think it's the organization that had his name was a conflict for him. >> i think the essential question isn't necessarily a legal question or even an ethical question, it is a political question, how do you want the next four years to be defined. what happens if democrats take control of one house or another of congress in two years time and hold endless hearings on the subject, which is a certainty.
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>> and i am sure that a talented children like ivanka trump and her brothers will do just fine when it comes to the trump administration. >> inject a bit of realism here. >> i think the realty side here is being missed. look, this is donald trump and his entire business empire is based off his name and his brand. and i think the likelihood that he is going to sell his companies and his businesses are what we should be looking at and it seems to me a very small prospect that he would. so the question then needs to be -- >> is that wise for him not to do that? >> it is arguably not wise. however i think the question is going to have to be, given that realty, what is the situation in which you can have a business setup that is the best form of this that you can have a blind trust, that you can have very
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clear rules that roll the president off as much as humanly possible to protect from self-interest. >> i think the big problem in the trump camp is that they cannot put trump out of business. that ivanka trump not being able to pay her bills is not why the country is relying on him. claims of voting irregularity. this as the president-elect says voter fraud robbed him of a popular vote win. we'll look at both charges next. you totanobody's hurt, new car. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it.
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a vote recount got under way
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on friday. amid claims of voting irregul irregularities in these battle ground states. president-elect donald trump took to twitter to blast the recount effort as a scam while alleging serious voting fraud in virginia, pennsylvania and california. i won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally. >> he's co-author of the book "who's counting" how fraudsters and bureaucrats put your vote at risks. so welcome to the program. let's start with the recount. is there any evidence of enough voter fraud in these states to overturn the election outcome? >> well, remember jill stein is not claiming voter fraud, she's claiming hacking of the voting machines.
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she has absolutely no evidence of any kind to do that and in fact the way those machines work, they are not tied into a central computer system. they are not net worked. that is the machines for example that scan ballots. the ability of hackers to get into it is just about nil. this is a complete and total waste of time by jill stein. >> to even take her suggestion of hacking seriously for a second. what would a hacker have to do in our decentralized election system to affect the outcome of the result? how would they have penetrated so many different sites. >> they couldn't. for example, most electronic voting machines, again, they're not net worked. so you would have to get physical access to each electronic voting machine. similarly in precincts that use paper ballots, those that are scanned by a computer, you would
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have to get physical access to the computer scanner. that is almost impossible, or very, very difficult so the chances of this being hacked is just about nil. >> just in a normal recount, have you ever seen a recount that overturned more than 10,000 votes in any kind of election? >> no, look. in the last two decades, there's been a little more than two dozen state wide recounts, only in three of those was the race overturned, one of those was the ho coleman-fr coleman-fran vote. >> what do you make of his claim that there were up to millions of fraudulent voters? >> i would say he's more right than his critics. we actually don't know the answer to that. and the problem is that our whole voter registration process
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is pretty much based on an honor system. i will tell you, we know for certain that noncitizens are illegally registering and voting, there are cases all across the country of people being prosecuted for that, but there's no systematic way of verifying citizenship. a number of surveyors have looked at this and noncitizens themselves admit they are registered to vote. it could be anywhere from 10% to 15% of noncitizens being registered. >> if you're an illegal immigrant here, you can go out and get a fake id, fake social security card, fake driver's license and then walk in and vote even with those fake documents. they'll do it, as you say, it's the honor system. so that's the ability of people to register even if they're not citizens, correct? >> also even noncitizens who are here legally, many of them go to
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get driver's licenses and they're asked where they want to register to vote and they're allowed to register. more than 1,000 noncitizens were found registered in just eight counties in a state, all of them here legally. and many of them have voted in prior elections. >> but there's a question of magnitude here, do we have any sense of what that magnitude is s you mentioned anecdotes and anecdotes are worth mentioning, but statistically, we don't know how many might be fraudulent voters, do we? >> we would have to look at the surveys, looking at the surveys it could be 2% to ever 6% of noncitizens voting in any given election. could be a couple thousand to over a million. >> what can states do to limit this type of voter fraud? >> you can be like kansas that
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when you register to vote you need to provide proof of citizenship. and the department of homeland security starts checking state voter registration lists to verify citizenship of people who are registered to vote. >> but this is typically done on a state basis, this is not something you would do nationally in terms of voter id laws. >> that's right. but states have had problems with the obama administration because the obama administration has tried to stop all verification of citizenship on voter registration lists. >> okay, thanks for being with us, appreciate it. straight ahead, nancy pelosi keeps her post as democratic leader in the house while president obama weighs in on what he thinks was behind the democratic election losses. so did the party learn the right lessons from their defeat?
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we have a responsibility and we embrace the opportunity that is presented. we know how to win elections, we have done it in the past, we'll do it again. never again will we have an election where there's any doubt in anyone's mind where the democrats are when it comes to america's working families. >> that was congresswoman nancy pelosi following her re-election friday as house minority leader.
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pelosi beat back a challenge by ohio congressman tim ryan. and amid concerns the democrats have become out of touch with the white working class voters who sent donald trump to the white house. president obama weighed in on that concern in an interview released this week telling "rolling stone" magazine, that in this election, they turned out in huge numbers for trump. and i think that part of it had to do with our inability, our failure to get our message out electively. part of it is fox news in every bar and restaurant in brig chunk of the country, but in part it is also the democrats, not working at a grass roots level. and kim, the three weeks in to this post election period, what lessons are the democrats taking away? >> the heads are still in the sand.
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they just -- they do not want to acknowledge that this is not a failure of getting their message out, it is the message itself. but this is what you're now hear from them, obama, it's fox news, pelosi, we need to make sure that the middle class voters understand that the democrats are all about them. but the voters understood that these policies were not in fact working for them. and this is why they lost the election and re-electing pelosi was just keeping the same in place. >> what message was they sending when a third didn't vote for pelosi? >> nancy pelosi has been in that spot now for ten years, she's 4 for 4, in terms of losing elections, they want new voices and a new bench so that's part of it. but they also want a change in
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policy. what we have is nancy pelosi, barack obama, harry reid when he was in the senate, speaking to what is a shrinking base of supporters. >> i think if obama wants to know why the democrats lost the election, he should look in the mirror. >> not fox news. >> health care and the iran deal. when history remembers his presidency, they'll remember that he shoved those two things down the throats of the american people and they both failed on his watch. the health care law didn't deliver what it promised but delivered continuously rising premiums. they're not going to solve their problems until they come to grips with those two failures. >> i think that what they're doing is they're saying james
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comey did it, the fbi director, he's at fault. hillary clinton did it because she was a lousy candidate. they're not looking at their ideas. >> in addition to looking at nancy pelosi's will to power, the democrats have lost 900 legislative seats and a dozen governor ships, the party has no bench. they have no one to put forward to take her on. >> i would like to defend the owners of bars and restaurants for giving consumers what they want. >> not in the airport, james. >> look, they can't really have a debate in washington because there are no moderates left in their elected representation in the house or the senate. so you had this kind of phony debate over the last week where tim ryaryan, who sort of looks e a middle america voter was running against left wing coastal nancy pelosi, but the truth is he's pretty far left,
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he's for obama care, for cap and trade, all of the crazy epa regulations, so the debate that ought to be happening about how you bring that party back toward caring about economic growth and job creation can't really happen within the party. >> let me play devil's advocate here. the vote was close, even through the evening on tuesday, a lot of people in the trump campaign didn't think they were going to win. trump lost the popular vote. so maybe pelosi is right to bet that all we need to do is see the republicans mess up and we'll inherit the congress again in 2018. >> that is a real risk for republicans, which let's all hope that they understand that they have no more excuses if things don't go right. but you see all these democrats saying, we need to change the
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electoral cleollege. that's not going to happen. what's happened is this has largely become the party of both coasts, the east and west coast. they need to figure out how to speak to people in the middle. they're speaking to i'd advertise politics with anarrower and -- the democrats for now seem to have given up on that idea. >> interesting fact, republicans won the house vote nationwide, but 3.2 million votes. trump lost the popular vote by 1.5 percentage points or something. >> the democrats have a demographics issue. they also have a cultural, basically a cultural problem. when you listen to nancy pelosi, you are looking at a very wealthy left or west coast elite who clearly doesn't seem to have much empathy or sense of what, say, coal miners in appalachia
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the unions are saying betty devoss is an excellent choice. i have worked closely with her for many years. and in spite of this hype around this notion that she wants to privatize education, what she really wants to do is empower parents because so many parents have kids who are trapped in bad schools and i must say, paul, one of the most amazing things about education politics is -- one of the things he said about around any duncan is he's destroying people's choice. i think betty devos is in good company if they're talking about that they don't like her. >> let's talk about the agenda at the national level. you and betsy devos has been
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fighting for school choice at the state and local level. but what can an education secretary do from washington to promote that agenda. >> a couple of things, one is to have a school choice advocate and the essence of school choice is putting the power in the hands of the parents not the government or the bureaucracy. to have a school choice advocate as a leader of education is that she'll help parents find quality options for their kids. >> but they don't have a lot of money at the federal level. as you know, most of the money is state and local. so you don't have that leverage. plus no child left behind was -- so it's basically bully pulpit, and maybe a little bit at the margin, is that how you do it? >> look at the attention that
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her selection has already been given. it sends a message to parents that they matter, it sends a message to kids that we're going to deal with your needs today not tomorrow. the other thing that's really, really important, it sends a message to the status quo, that the status quo is unacceptable. yes, most of the action is in the individual states, but there's so much that can be done in terms of leveraging public funds, and i'm sure secretary devos will do that in creating better options to access money to promote school choice. >> and from your point of view, it doesn't matter if they're charter schools, which are forms of public schools or vouchers that can go to private or even religious schools, from your point of view, either one is okay? >> either is okay, but the more the better. but keep in mind, no school district has ever reformed itself from within.
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the best form of reform frankly and pressure comes by way of if you look at what's happened in d.c., in florida, in milwaukee, in new orleans. because they had robust and diversified school choice offerings, it energized the local school district to reform itself. that's what i think that betty devos can demonstrate. >> what you've been doing for children is to fight basically across legislative districts in the states against the unions to be able to turn some of these legislatures more towards the pro-choice, proreform argue. it's an under reported story that you guys have had a lot of victories this year. >> we do and one of the things i'm very proud of working with betsy and the fellow board members working under our leadership that we go to individual states, we design
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laws to work for kids. we elect legislators who support promoting school choice, and the beautiful things about it which flies in the face of the union rhetoric is we're bipartisan, we elect a lot of democrats and republican who are in favor of school choice. betsy believes in collaboration, i think that's going to be a big surprise, she's going to be a star in the cabinet because she believes in reaching across the aisle and putting politics secondary to the interest of kids. and frankly it's the toxic nature of the political system in our country. >> you came up as a democrat in washington, d.c. as i recall in the city council? >> i did. and i helped start our charter movement and our voucher program, our scholarship program and look, after, ten years of our scholarship program in d.c. we have got 6,000 kids who have
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benefitted from it. and get this, of those 6,000 kids, 90% have graduated from high school, some of the best private schools in the area. and then those 90%, 90% of those graduates have gone on to college, it's been a life changing experience. and this is what school choice is all about, it's about making sure parents are able to afford these options that they otherwise wouldn't be able to get. when we come back, when dictator fidel castro is laid to rest in cuba, we'll look at what's likely to change under the trump administration. (vo) your love is purely thoughtful,
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the remains of cuban
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dictator fidel castro will be laid to rest today. the obama administration described to send a formal delegation to the funeral. a situation president-elect donald trump will inherit in january. we're back wi mary, what's the fidel legacy? >> it's complete and total ruin. he inherited a country that was one of the most prosperous in latin america in 1959. he immediately shot more than 500 people by firing squad. he turned a revolution that was actually designed to restore the constitutional government into a dictatorship. and he got very rich in process. and -- >> millions of cubans fled.
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>> and he stripped the soul of the cuban nation. >> and the legacy extends beyond cuba, it also goes into latin america, the example of astro. look at a country like venezuela today, experiencing hunger, electricity shortages, skyrocketing crime, 1,600% inflation, this is a country that modeled itself explicitly under hugo chaves and the cuban way. so it's been more than just the effects on the island itself. >> the obama administration had a policy, a break through two years ago, a policy change with cuba. how has it changed? >> it hasn't changed at all for average cubans, but the state has been able to take advantage of this normalization of relations in the united states. you've got americans that can go over there and use hard currency, but it's largely the
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regime that has profited from this. that is why when trump comes in, he's going to have to very much rethink that policy, and maybe this is a chance to start from scratch from people digging in on sides on this issue. >> castro's dead, a lot of people we know have talked to say he was a huge obstacle, symbolic and real to any kind of change on the island. his brother is now dictator and has been built up to control it. is this a moment where maybe, maybe some of the authoritarianism on the island breaks up? >> it's a possibility and i don't think we should actually close the door to that. but i also think it's pretty fanciful. raul castro has no intention of going anywhere, and the next generation of communists. so basically what the u.s.
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should ask for is relief of all political prisoners and no more putting new ones in jail. stop beating the dissidents and allow some normal level of entrepreneur ship, some free speech and some economic freedom. >> and access to the internet. >> yeah, but the thing is, i don't think that the castros are going to agree to any of that, and they have always said, we will not take any conditions from the empire. >> and if that happens, bret, if mary's right, how should trump respond? >> he should punish the castro government very sharply. i reported about a leading cuban dissident. he expects oppression to increase because raul is going to be nervous about the base of his power now that the symbol of tierny is now gone. i think that donald trump should make it clear that in exchange for -- we'll look favorably on
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it. but as castro becomes more authoritarian, the united states will exact a heavy and personal price on the regime. >> and we should remember that the economy in cuba is in really, really bad ship and it's probably going to contract this year. so they're desperate for dollars and that's why opening up to cuba at this time is a big mistake. >> that's an incentive for them to change, if they actually want to improve lives for cubans? >> but opening up unconditionally is a mistake when they're on the ropes. >> when we come back, hits and misses of the week. heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief.
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smarter, safer and more connected. put some smarts in your car. time now for our hits and misses of the week. >> so this is a hit for barack obama for reassuring the nation this week that his wife michelle will not run for elected office. you know, there used to be a tradition in this country, paul,
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the president and the first lady when they were done, they would attain the highest office of the land, they would fade off, do some charitable work, be helder statesmen. that all changed with the clintons with their desperate grasping of power again that subjects the nation to another 30 years of the democratic regime. maybe even chelsea clinton will pay attention. >> this is a hint for mechanino carolina, remember that mr. scott was killed in september by a police officer initially, it sparked two days of rioting in charlotte, north carolina before anyone knew the facts. i think it was very courageous for the district attorney to actually do a real investigation, find out that the shooting victim was armed, the police were -- had reason to use force and to put the thing to
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rest. >> all right, kate? >> this is a miss for the taxpayer and not the first. this week the government accountability office reported that the government is set to lose $108 billion on student loan forgiveness. president obama has expanded programs to allow borrowers to limit their repayments based on their income. democrats pitched this as a way to save money. >> they actually scored to save money. >> that fiction has been expose. >> we have heard about all this debt, another disturbing fact about millennials is that only 20% of them has ever tried a big mac. we were reminded of what they have been missing this week with the passing of world war ii army veteran and long time mcdonald's ceo.
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giving us tasty food at a low price. >> if you have your own hit or miss, be sure to tweet it to us on jcr@fnc.com. we hope to hear from you next week. the fox news alert, at least nine people are dead and potentially dozens more unaccounted for after a fast moving fire tore through a warehouse party in oakland, california. >> and i'm kelly wright. the fire broke out around 11:30 last night. it's estimated about 50 people were inside at the time. authorities say the building was not equipped with sprinklers, we're looking at pictures right now coming in now. claudia cohen is live on that scene in oakland. and claudia, have crew es been able

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