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tlc. >> i know how to be popular. who wants beer? >> thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. >> good morning, everybody. happy sunday. moving ahead. hi, everyone. i'm maria bartiromo. welcome to "sunday morning futures." president-elect donald trump stepping up his efforts to build his administration with now less than 50 days until inauguration day. what is his next move and who's next on the list? and we'll check out the transition right now. we'll talk about that right now with former house speaker newt gingrich. congresswoman cathy mcmorris rodgers and congressman jeb hensarling talking about rules and regulations and what is the state of our nation's cybersecurity. are we prepared for attacks at home and abroad.
we'll talk with the former head of the intelligence agency. general keith alexander is with us as we look at mm mm. for more on the trump transition, with me, newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, and a fux news contributor. thanks for joining us. >> it's great to be back with you. >> broadly speaking, how would you characterize the transition so far? we had a great conversation last week with steve mnuchin and wilbur ross who seems focused on tax reform, rolling back regulations, but broadly characterize what we have seen so far? >> president-elect trump first of all has been very methodical and looked at absolutely first class people and has picked people who will be tough and intelligent and have a lot of experience. his choice of betsy devos for education is remarkably powerful
because she spent years of her life fighting for the right of poor children in neighborhoods with bad schools, to have the choice of going to a better school. she's spent a great deal of her own personal money in this crusade to help poor children. you can hardly have a better person as secretary of education. at the same time, elaine chao's ability to understand the federal government will bring her a very important secretary of transportation at a time when a very large infrastructure program is going to be a key part of the make america great jobs program that trump is in favor of. i look around. general mattis is as good as anybody i have worked with in the defense department in the last 30 years. he's a remarkable person. i am delighted they could talk him into doing it because he's a total patriot, and he will bring a very calm, very measured approach to that job. he's very respected across the entire defense establishment.
and congress has to pace a waiver, but i'm confident it will go through with virtually no opposition because jim mattis is such a remarkable guy. i look at what he's done up until now, wilbur ross is a brilliant guy, and knows how business works. has proven it himself. steve mnuchin was described to me as one of the smartest finance people in the world, and the treasury secretary is an operational job. you have to make it work every day. it's not theoretical, and he will bring great experience and intelligence to making the job work. >> the idea that donald trump is tweeting this morning about companies leaving the country and there will be consequences. there's some debate about that. i understand making america, you know, the most favorable place to do business, and making the tax code so attractive that you don't want to leave. but to warn companies that there will be consequences, do you worry about this kind of tone? >> no, i don't, because i think he's trying to jar the system.
you know, he isn't going out and saying i'm going to pick on you individually. he's saying look, there's a class of behavior which we're going to have a response to and we're sending a install this is going to be different, and it is going to be different. this is something people ought to get in their heads. he's going to intervene. every governor in the country intervenes to keep factories in their state or intervenes in order to convince someone to invest and build a factory in their state. trump understands what the governors understand, which is we're in a worldwide competition with mexico, with china, with other countries. and he's going to work very hard to figure out, and this is part of why he picked wilbur ross and steve mnuchin. he wants to figure out how do we create an environment in which it's so desire nl to be in the u.s., and so expensive not to be in the u.s., so yex pkt to see them take some steps to make it harder to import and easier to export as part of their general strategy. >> that's what he said in the tweet this morning, basically
saying there will be a tax on our soon-to-be strong border of 35% for those companies who leave the country, produce goods overseas like in mexico, much cheaper, and then try to get the products back into the u.s. >> and the only question is, does that tax apply to everybody? if you're toyota or mercedes, are you also going to pay that tax? i suspect the tax will apply to all imports. and at the same time, i suspect he's going to create a rebate so if you're the mercedes plant in alabama, you get money back if you ship your cars out of the company. but you're going to pay a tax to get the cars into the u.s. >> isn't that 35% potential tariff the one thick that business and individuals were afraid of about his trade talk during the campaign, newt? isn't that what we have been worried about? then he said he was going to use it as a tool. is it just a tool and a threat? or are we going to see a real disruption in terms of our trading partners with this
potential tariff? >> look, i think this again goes to the heart of trumpism and why he was elected. we're running $600 and $800 billion a year deficits. if you cut that in half, that means you have disrupted a number of countries. if you actually turn it into a surplus over the next ten years, you have really disresulted a number of countries. the question is do you want to keep running huge deficits and costing american jobs but having cheaper products? or are you prepared to pay a little more for imported products but have dramatically more american jobs? these are very disruptive moments in american history and so far the sentiment in the congress and the presidential election, even secretary clinton was against the trade deal she had been in favor of because she found it was politically unsustainable. >> you make a great point. let me move on to taiwan. what do you make of this? he says she called him, and of
course, i'm going to take the call to, you know, answer the congratulations tone. but this is being looked at as a real pushback and a message to china. how do you see it? >> i love this. i love this at every level. first of all, i like the idea that if the freely elected leader of 23 million people, this is the third time that the taiwanese have had an election in which the opposition party has won. so they actually have a genuine free government. this is the first woman elected in her own right without having a husband or a father who was president before her. she's a totally legitimate figure. she calls you. now, understand the old establishment, the old timid state department, the old rules, we would have turned down the phone call on the rules we don't want to offend the dictatorship of beijing. trump said, if she wants to talk, i'll talk to her. he's talked with the freely elected leader of a country. now, the second thing i like about this is it cuts straight
across all of the state department ideas. nick burns, a big guy in the state department for years, said i'm afraid trump is not listening to the state department. i tweeted, i hope not, we elected him not to listen to the current state department. lastly, it's a good signal to the chinese. beijing does not dictate who an american president speaks to. and they need to be under no illusions. donald trump is different, not hostile to china, but at the same time, he's not going to kowtow and do what the chinese want. this is very inexpensive, low-key way of doing that. >> at the same time, china is responding. are we going into the new presidency with an already hostile tone to a country that is supposed to be one of our most important allies? china? >> they're not one -- the chinese currently are trying to establish control over several islands in the north china sea where they're claiming the right to establish an air corridor they will control.
they're inventing islands in the south china sea where they're trying to establish a claim of sovereignty over the entire region. you know, we need to be clear. the chinese are not our enemies, but they are our natural competitors right now. they're behaving like competitors and we don't need to go into some kind of cold war, but we need to be calmly and cheerfully firm that the united states in fact is not automatically going to do what beijing wants it to do. >> and of course, this is going to be a job also for his next secretary of state. do you expect that position to be announced this week? there was a report yesterday that now romney and giuliani are out. what's your take on who's going to take that role? >> let me say something i have learned spending the last two years studying donald j. trump. i have known him for many years but starting in january of last year, i talked to him about running and ever since we paid pretty close attention. no one knows. there's only one person who knows who is going to be secretary of state. that person may not have yet
made their mind up. when they do, it will be the person they want. it could be giuliani, it could be romney, it could be petraeus, it could be senator corker. it could be ambassador john bolton. lots of talented people out there. what i'm impressed with and i hope everybody will take note of this. this has been his hardest decision for a lot of reasons. a very hard job to fill because each guy has strengths and also has weaknesses. and what's been impressive to me is his patience. and methodically, calmly going through. he knows some of us are deeply opposed to romney. that hasn't stopped him. he knows there's people strongly in favor of romney. that hasn't automatically moved him. he knows giuliani has many support supporter. i'm one of them. that doesn't automatically get him anything. i have admired the very deliberate, very calm way in which trump has gone through this. he's been very methodical. as you know, i am not a fan of romney's, but if they have had
several long meetings and had several deep conversations, and with this call from taiwan, for example, i think trump is indicating how central he will be to relations around the world and that he's not going to be the state department's automatic puppet. i think in that kind of setting, whoever he ends up picking is somebody i'll support because i think trump is the person who has to have a vision of his administration and his cabinet. and he deserves some respect for having really very methodically worked this problem. >> really extraordinary what's happening before the inauguration. so much activity. mr. speaker, great to see you. thanks so much. always a pleasure. newt gingrich there. president-elect trump is not skipping a beat when it comes to working with congress. what can we expect from january and beyond? we'll talk with cathy mcmorris rodgers next. follow me on twitter. let us know what you would like to hear in the upcoming interviews. we're looking ahead right now on "sunday morning futures." we'll be right back.
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mcmorris rodgers. newly appointed co-vice chairman of the trump/pence presidential transition team. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> this role, new role as vice chair of the trump transition announced this past week, tell us about that role and what you're doing. >> well, i'm really thrilled to be joining the transition team as one of the vice chairs. we're meeting on a regular basis and this is the team identifying the best and brightest across the country for president-elect trump's consideration, and realize, there are over 400 positions that the senate will have to confirm. over 4,000 positions within the federal government. so we're meeting on a regular basis, identifying the priority positions, and then the chairman of the transition team, vice president-elect pence, is the one that is guiding us through this and helping us identify what these positions are, and he's just looking for names. anyone who's interested should
go to greatagain.gov, submit their resume and get in. >> a lot of positions, 400 to be confirmed. 4,000 throughout government. let me ask you about the priorities there, congresswoman, because there's a lot of debate about the meetings that trump is having. romney comes to mind. how important is it for the team to have something like a team of rivals? people on the other side, people who may have been critical of donald trump along the way. is that a priority in terms of who you're speaking with in these meetings? >> i am encouraged. when you look at president-elect trump, he's looking at a broad base of people from around this country. really seeking the best and the brightest. i think that that speaks very highly of him, and those he's appointed are ones we can really be proud he's putting in these positions. people that have a record of success, can hit the ground running. i think that this is going to speak highly -- does speak
highly of him and will continue to serve him well in this process. and i would also note that he is ahead of schedule. when you compare this transition to other transitions, the people that he's appointed today, the positions that he's already nominated someone, he is operating at a record pace. >> let's talk about what you believe is doable in terms of getting through congress and actually becoming law. steven mnuchin, the incoming treasury secretary last week told me the first 90 days after the inauguration, he's going to be trying to implement tax reform. mike pence told the "wall street journal" that in the first 100 to 200 days, they've got plans aimed at fulfilling core campaign promises, jump starting economic growth. realistically speaking, what do you think passes congress and what will we see in terms of some of the first new laws? >> right, well, obviously, this is an amazing moment that we have been given. there's a lot to be done.
this is our opportunity to think big and reimagine this federal government. the conversations about the first 100 days, the first 200 days, are under way right now between the trump, new trump administration, the house, and the senate. we have a lot of work to be done. we want to hit the ground running. you look at some of these priorities, whether it's the repeal and replacement of obamacare, yes, tax reform is a top priority. we want to get this economy growing. this is a president-elect who campaigned and really connected with the working men and women of america. and that is going to be our priority, to lift the tax burden, the regulatory burden, the skyrocketing cost of health care. those are all going to be priority items for this new administration and the new house and senate. >> one of the bills that just passed the house, the 21st century cures act, tell me how that fits in, funding rnd for life-threatening diseases? >> yes, 21st century cures. this is legislation we have been
working on for over three years, brought bipartisan support. this mixture that america continues to be the leader in medical innovation. you think about personalized medicine, the amazing scientific discoveries and the collaboration we need to have taking place in america. this is an important legislation that will insure that america continues to be the leader in medical innovation and that the jobs and the research stay right here in america. >> real quick, we know that a lot of announcements are expected this upcoming week. will we learn who secretary of state is this week? >> you know, there's a lot to be done. i think president-elect trump is the only one that knows that answer. but i have been encouraged by the approach he's been taking. >> congresswoman, good to see you. thank you for joining us today. >> great to be with you. >> we appreciate it very much. we're talking about rolling back regulations next and tax reform. those are the two priorities for the new administration in terms of getting that economy moving. can they get it done? the house financial services
we need to make sure that the bridges, the roads, the power grids, that we have a 21st century infrastructure. and we'll look at many ways of doing it. some will be private/public partnerships. some will be working with the states. dm. >> what is the most important bilateral deal you need to do? >> there will be lots of them. nafta is probably as good a starting point as any. nafta is technically three
countries. but a lot of issues that we have that will benefit us and will also benefit both mexico and canada. >> two appointed cabinet members laying out some of their first priorities. some of the things they intend to do for the trump administration, speaking with me this week on the fox business network. it comes as the november jobs number brought mixed news about the economy. employers added 178,000 jobs to the economy last month, but a record number of job seekers are giving up their search and leaving the workforce all together. wages also disappointing in that report. i want to bring in jeb hensarling, the financial services chairman. good to see you. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to talk about the number one priority, which i keep hearing from steven mnuchin and others in the administration, incoming administration. that is tax reform. congressman, how do you expect to see tax reform executed in the first 100 to 200 days after the inauguration?
according to mike pence and steven mnuchin. >> well, number one, kevin brady, our chairman of the house ways and means committee has been working on this ever since he's been on the house ways and means committee. our speaker has been working on this. nothing says economic growth quite like tax reform, making the code fairer, simpler, more competiti competitive. built for growth. we have a lot of momentum already going in the house. i would help that democrats would want to join in on this. when you have one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world, i think we're the third highest corporate tax rate out of 170-some odd countries. we know that's one of the things sending jobs overseas. it's going to be priority number one. everybody is going to roll up their sleeves. we're never going to work so hard in congress and love it more. >> i know the gop house plan called for a corporate tax rate of 20%. do you see -- would you see
yourself voting for 15%, as donald trump has talked about, or do you expect it to be a bit higher, 20%, which was the gop plan? >> i don't know quite where we end up, but there's probably about 80% similarity between chairman brady's plan and the incoming administration's plan. so i'm sure we'll talk with them and find common ground. but the main thing is it's got to be a fairer, flatter tax code that's built for growth, built for simplicity, and obviously holds the irs accountable, too, perhaps the most feared government agency that has trampled upon our most sacred rights. we have to respect the rule of law. there's a lot of common ground between those two plans. i have no doubt we can forge ahead, get this done and get us on the road to this 3.5% to 4% economic growth we need to have. >> you are expecting 3.5% to 4% economic growth in a short period of time, which mnuchin
predicted as well. >> if you get the right policy, yes, but i'm not oblivious to senate rules that say for most matters you need nine democratic senators agreed. there has to be a lot of focus on them and their decisions. but if you had a fundamental tax reform, if you got rid of dodd/frank, which is clogging the arteries of capital, causing spending to be at a 25-year low. you had tax reform, got rid of to todd frank regulatory reform, where the rule of law is reformed. i have no doubt, and with the trade negotiations that i believe this new administration can successfully conclude, yes, we're capable of it, but you have to get public policy right. >> part of that seems to be donald trump's tweeting. the tweet this morning that basically is warning companies, look, if you take jobs overseas
and you create a factory overseas and try to get your product back into the u.s., there will be a 35% tax on your products. that will be at that strong border. do you agree with this tone? warning companies, hey, it's our way or the highway, and yes, we're going to make america real attractive to do business here, but if you don't, you'll face a 35% tariff? >> maria, i personally prefer carrots over sticks. i also have heard the president-elect say that, again, we're going to have fundamental tax reform. we're going to get rid of dodd/frank, conclude greater trade deals. what i known, for example, about the carrier deal, is carrier issued a statement saying it was tax incentives by the state of indiana and the pro-growth, pro-business job creation atmosphere and legislation that the new administration plans to propose. so again, i don't know exactly what the president-elect has in mind.
i prefer carrots over sticks. if we get the public policy right, we won't need any sticks. >> you prefer not to see a 35% tariff? >> correct. >> let me ask you this in terms of dodd/frank. a lot of people are wondering what dies in dodd/frank. what's the most onerous part from your standpoint? steven mnuchin said, look, banks have to lend again. what are the areas of dodd/frank you think need to go away? >> well, maria, it's kind of a target-rich environment because it harmed us in so many ways and is a key contributor to our 2% growth. the federal government should not be in the business of designating too big to fail firms. because of that, under dodd/frank, the big banks have gotten bigger and the small banks have gotten fewer, and the taxpayer has gotten poorer. second of all, we have a taxpayer bailout fund. this is crazy. did we not learn anything from the financial crisis? so we need to replace bailout
with bankruptcy. and we need to replace private capital with federal control. and under the house financial services bill, what we call the financial choice act, what we do is we give financial institutions a voluntary dodd/frank off-ramp. if you'll have a 10% simple leverage ratio, in other words, raise a whole lot of loss absorbing private capital, you can go out and run your bank, as long as you're using private capital and not taxpayer funds, you can go out and work and help fund the american dream. so the regulatory burden in dodd/frank is just immense. it's crushing our community financial institutions. we're losing one a day. again, this is what funds our small businesses. the job creation engine of america. so those are just a couple provisions right there. but i need hours to go on about the harms that dodd/frank has done to the economy, and that's why house republicans are going
including technology upgrades in the federal sector, more cooperation between the government and private sector on digital network security and a cybersecurity nutritional label for product safety ratings. what does this mean for the incoming trump administration? joining me now, retired four-star general keith alexander. a former nsa director who is also part of the cybersecurity commission. general, great to have you on the program. thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, maria. >> tell us about the cybersecurity commission and its impact? >> well, we had a commissioner, 12 commissioners together, a nonpartisan, look at the biggest issues to face our country in cyber security. as you mention, we came up with six imperatives, roughly 13 recommendations and 50 action items. when you look at this, you hit on some of the key things. what do we need to give to the next president, president-elect trump and his administration, of what they could do their first 100 days in office to help set
cyber security right. this is hugely important for our nation. for a whole host of reasons. if you think about the theft of intellectual property, the greatest transfer of wealth in history, the is is something th president-elect trump clearly understands. that's our future. we have to fix that. one of the ways of fixing that is by having government and industry work together. and joining those together, and coming up with ways to transfer information from the government to industry and from the industry to government at network speed. now, we came up with a series of ideas, including setting up a national board like the president's intel advisory board that would report directly to the president which would have industry on it. we talked about the next digital economy and what we could do, especially on the internet of things. if you think about that internet of things, think about the convergence going on there. you know, this latest attack on the eastern seaboard will use
the internet of things as part of that. we can no longer think of those as epierate entities. we have to think of those as ones converging on the internet. you hit on a key point with your label. how do we help people get the right devices when your refrigerator or printer becomes a device to attack us. >> how do you -- do you have confidence that you are going to be able to get these private/public partnerships going when we know that we've got major privacy issues? the law enforcement couldn't even get into the san bernardino killer's phone. because technology companies would not open that phone because of privacy issues. >> so these are issues that we have to work on. and have to be completely transparent with the american people. but it's my opinion, technically, we can protect this nation better than we ever have before. and we can work with our allies to do that. first, it starts with, and you would pick up on this, we have
to get the government house in order. and that means setting up some kind of civilian agency that does all of our i.t. and our cyber security as one. and then have that work with the military side and intelligence community and industry. how do we put that group together? then be transparent about the rules. what do we want to share? this is -- our constitution starts out with the common defense. and this is the biggest change in history. think about what's going on for our nation. >> absolutely. >> we have to get this right. i do believe we can do both. >> and these are tough issues. we know that. let me ask you, congress will need to pass a special law to allow retired officer james mattis to take the pentagon's top post. what's your take on that, president-elect trump naming james mattis as his pick for defense secretary? is he going to face a challenge or a problem in terms of getting
confirmed? >> first, i have known jim mattis since we went to the war college together back in '93. he is a superb officer. he has been at every level of war, as you mentioned before. at the division level in iraq in 2003, he led. the core level, and then at the theater level. he's a superb leader who understands what it's like to put military people at risk. i think he will be a tremendous asset for president-elect trump. i think that was a great choice. and he will give president-elect trump good advice. they can elect -- they can push this through. i don't see it as an issue unless we make it one. truly, it's not an issue. this is a good person who will do a great job as our secretary of defense. >> you think congress will and should pass that special law to allow him retired for so many years to come back with no challenge in terms of confirmation? you think it will happen? >> absolutely. they did it, now, i wasn't around when they did it for
marshall, but they did it before and they could do it again. one of things we should take great pride in is look what the president-elect is doing. he's getting people from the full spectrum. as others have said on the program, the best and brightest across the board. that's what i think we need to do. >> would you like to see general petraeus as secretary of state? >> i think general dave petraeus is one of the smartest people i have ever worked with. he's a class mate, a friend. he's been at every level of war but beyond that. when you think of dave petraeus, here's a guy who understands international issues better than anybody else in our government. he worked as the commander in iraq and afghanistan, as cia director, and his current civilian job. he's been to over 40 countries at every level. i think the incoming white house chief of staff has said, he's like a walking encyclopedia.
he's brilliant. we should take great pride in the fact that president-elect trump is looking at individuals like dave petraeus. a statesman, and like romney and all the others. i think that's great, what he's doing. it really speaks well for the future of this country. get the best in there. help reform our government. get this country going again. that's what we need to do. >> general, great to have you on the program. thank you so much, sir. >> thank you. >> general keith alexander. let's look what's coming up at the taught of the hour on "media buzz." >> good morning. donald trump going after the dishonest press once again at a rally, tweeting up a storm, breaking with decades of protocol by accepting the call from the president of taiwan. the media struggling to figure out how to cover this guy. even a debate, should we cover his tweets? what if the tweets are not in accordance with the facts? we'll look at that and more on "media buzz." >> howie, we'll see you in about 20 minutes. >> meanwhile, some democrats pointing the finger almost a month after the election.
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about, given these -- am i wrong? >> six weeks ago, eight weeks ago, the story was when trump loses, republicans are in disarray. it will take them 20 years to put it all back together again. we're obviously now in a much better position moving forward. the democrats, the leadership got old. it's difficult after a terrible defeat like this, and the premise is not just the defeat at the top. it's a defeat all the way through the line, and we now have more governors than we ever had, congress controlled be republicans, both house and senate. i think they have a rebuilding and they have to find new leaders, younger leaders. >> but they're not doing that, julie, that's the point. the idea to get pushed all the way to the left by the bernie sanders and the elizabeth warrens of the world, they're not going towards the middle. and answering what people are talking about in terms of jobs. >> you know, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and that's absolutely right. we're doing the same thing over
and over again. that is absolutely right. we have lost the vast majority of state houses, not only at the governor level but the house is gone, the senate which should have been ours is not. we lost the presidential election that quite frankly we should have won. we have to look at the leaders in place. for me, to re-elect nancy pelosi just makes no sense. not a reflection on her per se, but it's time for new blood, new leadership. we need to reassess, we need a full-time dnc chair. if it's keith ellison, he owes it to the people of minnesota and his district and the democrats across the country to focus on one job or the other because it is a full-time job. we need to take stock and make sure we don't repeat the same mistake in '17 when we have a few governors races up, in '18 when we have a lot of governor races up. >> i thought tim ryan got it. he seems very much down the line. and you know, most people in this country are hanging out in
the middle. you might lean to the right or the left, he was in the middle. he's failed in chaging nancy pelosi. >> it's hard, and ed knows it, it's hard to overthrow an existing leader. and it's vastly hard task to do unless you really have a coalition of people coming together to do it, as they have. >> she's been a tremendous fund-raiser. nancy and i are peers. we started in california politics together. i'm an old man. she should retire or be speaker emeritus and let somebody else in the game. >> jack, how do you see? >> like a football team searching for an identity. whenever you're a political party, that's not good. they came off a horrific defeat that was shocking. but i use sports analogies a lot, whenever you're competing. if you look a football team who doesn't know whether they want to run or throw the ball, you're going to be in disarray.
that's what you're seeing with the democratic party. >> they don't understand what the american people want. it's about jobs and economic growth, whei think. >> it is. and i one thing i have to say, on the other hand, the republicans have the car keys to everything, so it's up to them. if they don't deliver, if donald trump doesn't deliver, if the house and senate don't deliver, we'll talk about republicans in disarray. so the car keys belong to the republican party now. god bless. go do it. >> the interesting thing is democrats lost three landslide elections in the '80s. the guy who led them out of the wilderness was bill clinton, who understand about centrist democrats and did a effective job. his mantra, which obviously many people thought his wife would carry that ball, she didn't, and the idea that bernie sanders or elizabeth warren are going to take it back to the promiseland is absurd. if you want to get back to the working class democrat you lost in the election, the map is going to stay the same. the big problem is they have 25
senators up next time. we have seven. ten of those are in seats that romney won. so they can really get globbered in the next election. >> we'll be back with more from the panel next. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours.
this is the best tweet. i mean, wow, what a great, smart tweet. >> mr. trump, we're in a security briefing. >> i know, but this could not wait. it was from a young man named seth. he's 16. he's in high school. and i really did retweet him, seriously. this is real. >> "saturday night live" having a ball with this election, and trump responding this morning. just tried watching saturday night live, unwatchable. totally biased, not funny, and
the impersonation could not get worse. sad. they're going to have a long run with this. >> sure, they will. what trump has to understand is 5.7 million people watch saturday night live and it's part of the culture. he can go on two shows on fox and reach more people than that. he needs to get over it, move forward and laugh about it. >> when they were making fun of sarah palin, they did penetrate. they hurt sarah palin. they have been unable to hurt donald trump. >> i'm not sure they're doing a caricature so much as word for word impersonation. the problem with donald trump, he has 300 million people to worry about. he's worried about alec baldwin? it underscores what is being made fun of, instead of focusing on the one china policy, which he should familiarize himself with, he's tweeting about alec baldwin in the middle of the night. >> he is focused on a platform. steven mnuchin was with me last week and wilbur ross.
they're talking about lowering taxes in the first 90 days, rolling back ragulation in the first 200 days. they have a plan on the table. >> that's what donald trump is doing. i'm excited to see the tax reform coming along. as a small business owner. it's time. that's what the democrats are kind of missing the boat. you know, the american people want change. and so it's not about making everyone happy and trying to pull everyone in america to like you. it's about picking a side and being decisive on real decisions that affect people, and we have to laugh at ourselves. i love watching "saturday night live." >> he had the best week of anybody in the transition team. he had a home run with carrier, and his appointments have been better than people anticipated. my sense is he's dominated the political scene. obama is trying to get out of the white house and do some things but nobody is paying attention. >> we'll probably hear a secretary of state announcement next week. jack, who's going to win the football game?
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