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happens. we hope you will be too. again thanks for watching us tonight. i am bill o'reilly. please remember that the spinst. we're looking out for you. . breaking tonight president-elect trump stuns critics and supporters alike as he appears to soften his stance on a key promise to strike down one of president obama's most controversial executive orders, welcome to "the kelly file," everybody. i'm martha mccallum in tonight for megyn kelly. the president-elect who said the so-called once dreamers brought here as children will all quote have to go. but in a wide ranging interview with "time" magazine, after they announced him as their quote person of the year, mr. trump now says that he will kill president obama's executive order but he tells "time" magazine, quote, we're going to
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work something out that's going to make people proud and happy. what does that mean? a far cry perhaps from some of the tougher language he had back on the campaign trail. watch. >> martha, we continue to see what you might call the great pivot. last night that thank you rally in north carolina -- >> we will immediately terminate president obama's two illegal executive amnesties in which he defied federal law and the constitution to give nam knitty to amnesty to aproks natalie 5 million illegal aliens. illegally. for those here illegal today seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only. to return home and apply for reentry like everybody else. we will break the cycle of amnesty and illegal immigration.
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we will break the cycle. there will be no amnesty. >> no amnesty, he said. we begin tonight with our chief national correspondent, now we go to ed henry reporting from the trump international hotel in washington. >> martha, we continue to see what you might call the great pivot. last night that thank you rally in north carolina. a lot less dark and stormy rhetoric. a lot more mourning in america. president-elect donald trump even at one point calming down his supporters when they started a chant attacking the mainstream media. tonight it's mr. trump in the pages of "time" magazine in the story revealing that he is the mag's person of the year sounding almost warm and fuzzy about dreamers. those are the kids who were brought to this country by their parents illegally and then given work visas to stay here by president obama via executive order. mr. trump saying he still wants to overturn that executive
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action but raising eyebrows among conservatives by saying he wants to do it in a way that makes everyone quote happy and proud adding they got brought here at a very young age. they've worked here. gone to school here. some were good student. some have wonderful jobs. and they are in never neverland because they don't know what's going to happen. that sounds a lot more like president obama during the 2012 campaign than mr. trump during some of those tough talk days in the 2016 campaign. >> effective immediately the department of homeland security is taking steps to lift the shadow of deportation from these young people. giving a degree of relief and hope to talented driven patriotic young people. >> there's no legalization, no amnesty and if somebody wants to go legalization route, what they will do is go leave the country, hopefully come back in and then we can talk. >> to his critics, this is a
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president-elect not living up to major campaign promises, hard-line promises, like locking up hillary clinton for example while his supporters note that this is a person who for all of the talk about how he did not have the temperament to be president he is proving to be a pragmatic leader, not getting hung up on the details, and trying to find common ground on these major issues. martha? >> let's see what the reaction to this is. charlie hurt, political columnist for the plolitical times. preside and virginia governor, a long time trump supporter, thank you all for being here. i know you have been very sort of firm in your adherence to mr. trump's campaign-style rhetoric. are are you disappointed in this. >> >>. >> we have to see what he does. when he asked me to be his chairman of the campaign of virginia i answered it yes
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because it is such an important issue. you know, look, we talk about these dreamers, 57% of them are adults and in prince wane county one of the so-called dreamers was released by the obama administration and killed a nun. these aren't just a bunch of innocent people, a bunch of innocent kids that came out and want to make a better life for themselves. a lot of these are adults engaging in criminal activity. and mr. trump needs to keep his promise. 63 million people took him at his word when he proomissed to rescind this illegal executive order. >> javier, i would imagine you are happy with the sort of tempered language here. >> i think he is illustrating a level of compassionate conservative em thcon conservatism that this country need. to deport a couple of million people is a burden on american taxpayers. these predominantly are young people who have come here trying
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to build a life. many have great educations. and they want to contribute to the greatness of this country. i that i for donald trump to begin to illustrate that he comprehends the difference between the rhetoric of a campaign and the reality of being president of the greatest nation in the world, illustrate real leadership and i for one am very encouraged by what i've heard. >> charlie, i think back on some of the promises of president obama, he said he would close gitmo. he said if you liked your doctor, you can keep your doctor. he is criticized for not sticking to his word. do you criticize donald trump for not doing the same? >> certainly what we heard today is a different tone about immigration. honestly martha, i don't see any substantive difference between what he said during the campaign and what he is saying now. he is still talking about tearing up the executive order that president obama signed regarding the dreamers. not only because it is a terrible policy but it is unconstitutional. he is still going to do that. the question of what to do with
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the people that are here has been something that, you know, lawmakers have grappled with ever since 1986, the last time they promised to fix this problem. the real thing that matters most of all is, are you going to fix the problem going forward. and obviously part of that means that you do deport people who are here illegally especially those people who are here illegally and breaking laws in addition being here illegally. but i think there is wiggle room for negotiation after that. >> you have to prioritize. i think that's what he talked about quite a bit. corey, back to you. he said you want it build a wall and put a stopper in the opening of that is allowing people to flow through. then you want to get krid of the criminals first, he said. that's going to take a while to achieve these two goals. then and only then do you move on to the next category of people, right, corey? >> well i would agree with that prioritization. it makes sense, secure the
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border, go after criminals first. that's what we did in prince william county to great effect. but you know, one of the things that has to be done here is we have to establish law an order in our immigration system. if we don't enforce the law, the law that congress and the president created, not the president alone, then what's the point of even reforming the law if we're not going to enforce it? and that the first thing that trump needs to make good on the promise. that's the most important thing. he needs do what reagan did by firing air traffic controllers 35 years ago. he needs to establish that he is serious, going to keep his promises and that, you know, if you dealt that, he is going to make it very clear at very beginning of his administration that instead of breaking promises he will keep them. >> javier, it seems that donald trump as many presidents do, they start with the pendulum all wait to one side. they want to make a very clear point during the campaign. and make it clear to people that they are serious about it. then they move toward the
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ability to actually take action on it. but in terms of corey's point, we have laws in this country. you are not allowed to be here illegally. it does seem like there are different laws for certain immigrant crossing the bored earn different laws for others who are kicked out and have to stay away for years and work their way back in. why isn't the same for everyone? >> what i can tell you is that in my conversations with the trump team, i have witnessed them illustrate a real willingness to comprehend the issue in its broadest context. we have tried to insure that they understand the important economic and commercial implications to this thorny and often emowingal issue called immigration reform. at the end of the day, these people are predominantly employed, predominantly working in this country to deport them in a mass fashion would cost anywhere from 300 to $400 billion to the american economy. and i'm glad that issue was
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brought up about ronald reagan. you will recall that reagan basically pardoned millions of people at the time he was president and he illustrated that we are a country of broad shoulders and big hearts. it is time that donald trump did that. i'm very encouraged by the fact he is at least willing to stop and pump the brakes a little bit and look at this thing for what it truly is. >> he will have to walk a fine line. >> and amnesty, those 3 million turned into 12 million plus and that's why it has to be done. border security first this time. >> good point. >> thank you very much. another major announcement today for the president-elect's cabinet. john kelly is tapped to run the department of homeland security. there are were a number of people considered for that spot. the president suggesting tonight that intel community failed to alert him about the rise of isis. is that true? our own oliver north claims it
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is either an outright false hood or criminal negligence. we will talk to carl higby and larry cord about how that could have happened and how president-elect trump may handle things differently. also, chris stirewalt is here tonight on president-elect trump's honeymoon period in the polls. we will show you the brand-new numbers next. >> the script to what we're doing is not yet written. remember, this has been a great, ♪ like a human fingerprint, no two whale flukes are the same. because your needs are unique, pacific life has been delivering flexible retirement and life insurance solutions for more than 145 years.
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breaking tonight. another announcement from president-elect, retired general john kelly is the man tapped to the run the department of homeland security. it is a big job. while there is major pressure in that post with immigration and counterterrorism on the line, so is he the right man for the job? catherine herridge joins us live this evening from washington. catherine? >> martha, in his last job, general kelly's portfolio included guantanamo immigration and drug trafficking. some say that experience makes his vel versed on southern border issued. when he retirement in january, kelly checked another trump box emphasizing work with
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intelligence and homeland security outside the beltway. >> at least it's been my experience the further you get from washington the better things work. people actually talk to each other, socialize with each other, work together. there is no rice bowls. >> general kelly is widely respected and understands the human cost of war. in 2010 his son lieutenant robert m. kelly was killed in afghanistan by an ied. he rarely talks about the loss but when he does he talks about finishing the mission for fellow gold star families. >> i think the one thing they would ask is that the cause for which their son or daughter fell be carried through to a successful end, whatever that means. as opposed to this is getting too costly or too much of a pain in the ass and let's just walk away from it. because that's when they start thinking it might have been not worth it. >> the new secretary will take over the sprawling department of 240,000 government employees at a time the terror threat has
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never been broader, wider or deeper. >> there existes a greater number of potential terrorist actors who aspire to do us harm than at any point in our history since 9/11. >> for eight years the obama administration reluctantly played wack-a-mole with jihadists rather than leaning into the fight with decisive leadership. >> based on government data isis was operating in seven countries two years ago and this year that number nearly tripled to 18. martha? >> catherine, thank you. >> you're welcome. >> while isis rep zaents cleresr and present danger for incoming administration administration, it was subjected in a grand new interview that his intelligence community let him down when it came to warning him accurately about the threat. watch. >> the ability of isil to initiate major land offenses,
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that was not on my intelligence radar screen. >> really? because here's what some of his own intelligence officials were telling congress in the months and weeks after the first major isis victory in fallujah. >> syria has become a huge magnet for extremists and we're seeing now the appearance of training complexes in syria it train people to go back to their country countries and conduct more terrorist acts. this is a huge concern to all of us. >> we are concerned about the use of syrian territory by the al qaeda organization to recruit individuals and develop the capability to be able to not just carry out attacks inside of syria but also to use syria as a launching pad. >> its current leader is a designated global terrorist
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under u.s. law and we believe is currently based in syria. his mission is clearly stated in his own statements, to carve out his own governing territory from baghdad t.o. throu baghdad through syria to lebanon. >> the scale of what they are involved in right now, particularly the al qaeda element in iraq, and just the level of destruction that they are having and the level of killing they are doing inside of that country is just terrible. >> so those were in january and february of 2014. right around the time that president called isis or isil the jv team. carl higby is a former navy seal and trump supporter. larry cord, senior fellow with the center for american progress and former assistant defense secretary. gentlemen, thank you very much. good to have you all here. when you look at it in that context, carl, why would the president say in an interview that is happening now as he is about to leave office, that his
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intelligence people were not giving him the full picture? >> that's a fundamental lie. barack obama's policy has been a complete disaster. he knows darn well that he was told that. anyone that told him isis is a problem he fired them. that way he didn't have to listen to tlem. when he says he didn't hear about this from intelligence community, that's malarkey. i know for a a fact guys like general flynn told him. i knew this would be an issue. >> general flynn will be new head of national security council was pretty much screaming this from the rafters, larry, at that point and after. because he felt he wasn't being listened to. but a he wasn't alone at all. there were plenty of intelligence officials saying they were filing reports that they were told to dumb them down a bit because the message wasn't what the white house wanted to hear, larry. >> i think if you go back and you just play part of general clapper's testimony, he said in
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the summer of 2014 that he underestimated how strong they would get in syria and the collapse of the iraqi army. president obama was lard havial having americans flying back there in 2013 and rogers, who trump is considering to replace clapper, said we underestimated them. that's what obama was trying to say. people knew they were there but underestimated how quickly they would be able to get into iraq and the iraqi army would collapse. i think that's exactly what he's saying. and again, you know, intelligence people make mistakes. general flynn was blaming benghazi on iran, which wasn't true. >> larry, they do make mistakes. what some people take issue in in watching this interview, why wouldn't the president say upon reflection there were people who were speaking out very strongly on this matter, and it would
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have been wise to have paid attention to them. you get a lot of information incoming. and i chose to, you know, follow some people's take on whether or not they could be contained. but this is a period during which people were being beheaded. m mass beheadings on the beach. people drown in cages. we were told, carl, that this is an out of control group that couldn't establish any territory that would be meaningful to anybody. >> martha wab barack obama won't say any of that because he is so profoundly arrogant when it comes to his foreign policy. he has no understanding of what went wrong and he doesn't care to understand because he has his agenda. i was there in 2009 and i put this in my first book that this was going to be a problem. we were pulling out of iraq. there were power vacuums happening. violence was escalating and they didn't want it admit that so they stopped all direct action mission. we weren't allowed to kill bad guys which is what we are trained to do as soldiers. then they are claiming victory.
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they were saying it wasn't over and we just pulled out anyway. >> larry, last word? >> wait a second. president bush signed an agreement that said we today get out by the end of 2011 and we today in early 2009 stop our combat missions. this was not obama who did that. and general petraeus -- >> obama didn't try to change it. >> but general petraeus said even if you left 10,000 troops there he doesn't think it would have made a difference. because either way he ran the place and he wouldn't allow troops to stay there without a status of forces agreement. >> a lot of people believe that status of forces agreement could have been reached. and president bush himself actually warned about leaving a vacuum in that area and he said that terrorist elements would fill that vacuum if it was left. so i guess my point is that when you have 2020 and you have the hindsight on it, what would behoove a president or any leader would be to be as clear-eyed as possible in
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explaining what happened so that the next president could see it in a way that might be more helpful to him instead of throwing people under the bus that don't deserve it. larry, thank you very much. carl, thank you as well. thank you, gentlemen. coming up, ohio could be on waits to passing one of the strictist abortion laws in the country. it is known as the heart beat bill. and it is sitting on governor john kasich's desk. we will debate that bill and the fallout ahead. plus, stunning new poll numbers tonight with respect to president-elect donald trump's popularity and how people feel about the country today. chris stirewalt here to explain what is behind the trump bump. and whether the surge can last. when we come back. oh, that's lovely...
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developing tonight a surge in polling for president-elect donald trump as he rides the tail winds of his surprising november victory. mr. trump appears to be experiencing a bit of an extended honeymoon phase with the american public. a new bloomberg poll out today shows he is at 50%. marking a 17-point jump since august. what is more the same poll found that percent of american adults who believe the country is on the right track is now in its highest place in four years. so what's contributing to these jumps and ka can it last? probably not. most things go up and down. chris stirewalt is here to explain tonight. chris, very nice move. is this normally what we see with a president-elect? >> well, it depends on how you're rolling when you get there. in donald trump's case he may have squeaked over the finish line to a certain degree but he has gotten a -- the honeymoon is
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more pronounced for him. barack obama came into office popular. he went into eelection day fairly popular eight years ago. this time donald trump was lugging what looked like overwhelming negatives. people were very down on him. you remember a month ago, a month and a day ago we had the election. three weeks ago people were saying should donald trump be normalized? should the president have even welcomed him to the white house in a month later we are saying hast country says they feel pretty good about him and by wait on his core policy sets people are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt so trump definitely changed the landscape around him. >> he always said he could be presidential. and you know, i remember even paul manafort said well he likes to be out on the edges then move his way to the middle. have you al gore and rob emmanuel coming to meet with donald trump. >> that's right. >> and kellyanne conway said that president obama and donald
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trump have spent 30 hours on the phone together. >> that's a lot of hours. >> is that possible? >> that's a lot of hours. >> i haven't spent 30 hours on the phone since eighth grade. i don't know what they are talking about, chris, but they have a lot to talk about. >> imagine twisting the cord around your fing eaer an talkino prend friends. >> that's it. >> there was a caricature of him that political opponents that hillary clinton and the democrats laid out in the press, he is a nazi, a monster, evil, drink the blood of the children of america. and then he showed up and went oh, he is kind of funny. i kind of like him. >> so you start there, it can only go up. >> right. and he is being moderate and making cooing noises that liberals like even though he is appointing people that are really conservative. >> fascinating. thank you very much. always good to see you, sir. come see us in the morning.
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let's be joined now by republican congressman sean duffy and richard fowler of fox news contributor and radio talk show host welcome, gentlemen. hello, there. good to have you all here. so you were smiling broadly as chris and i are talking. what do you think about that? >> there is some truth. every president get's a honeymoon phase after they win. people are looking to him no answers and to create jobs and to build a wall. we will wait and see what happens. i think donald trump has a couple of problems. i think problem one, as he gets into his first 100 days he will want to pass the trillion dollar transportation or infrastructure bill which i think is a great idea if done correctly. and hawk and others will be like oh, that's too much. lower that number. that's where you will see the big eruption of trump taking on his own party. >> i thought it was interesting in the interview donald trump said today that i would like to be judge owned my presidency
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starting now. starting when i got elected because the dow is at an all-time high. the market responded incredibly positively. so far to the trump transition. part of this process. but if he comes forward with that bill, are you going to give him hard time about how to pay for it? >> depends. if he doesn't pay for it we will have trouble. we can have foreign profits back to the states whether we charge 5, 8, 10% interest. you can pay 300 or $400 billion of that trillion dollar expenditure. but martha, we are a trillion dollars in debt. to think we would add another trillion of unpaid spending on top of it, that's not going to happen. but liberals across america, their hair is on fire. they are pulling it out. they can't believe the evil donald trump is actually, you know, warming up to the american people and kind of like him and want to give him a shot. one second. only 28% of americans want democrats to oppose donald trump and republicans in congress. they want to work with us to
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secure the border and fix the economy. they are pushing to say work together and get some of the big initiatives done. >> this is fascinating. this is what i think is the most interesting. richard, tell me, do you believe, are you willing give donald trump a chance? the people were sobbing and devastated after this election in half of the country. essentially, right? are they starting to feel better or do they think this is not real? >> listen, i respect the president's of the united states, the person in it, that's another story, depending on who it is every four areas. but here eat thing. i think the american people were angry. and frustrated. they felt the economy was rigged. i think millennials felt that going into last month as chris stirewalt said and now donald trump has to prove he can quote unquote make america great again. and like congressman duffey pointed out, he will have trouble in his own caucus making that a reality.
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same thing he is proposing or same thing barack obama proposed an infrastructure deal and republicans blocked it tooth and nail and he indicated they would do it again. >> you have to come to it with a way it pay for it. >> you have it right here. >> richard? >> this is $800 billion spending bill under barack obama and said there were shovel-ready jobs and there weren't. >> that is not true congressman. there is 60 don sective montcon of job growth. >> quickly, what is the best way to pay for it? quickly? >> repay trtriot profits from overseaes. >> big battle. big battle. >> i you know what i would say? actions speak louder than words. if he makes good on the promises
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then he will have made good on >> i hope he does. >> okay. richard, thank you very much. >> thank you, martha. >> great to see you both. >> there is controversy brewing in ohio as the state is on the verge of adopting one of the most strict abortion laws that would exist in this country. lisa booth and naomi will discuss it. it is called the heart beat bill coming up. plus, today we remember the day that lives in infamy. it has been 75 years since the attack on pearl harbor. our interviews with heros who survived coming up. you don't want to miss it. very special. >> setting up machine guns, second time i was firing at second time i was firing at enemy planes passing by.
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breaking tonight at this hour, the state of ohio is now just a signature away from a histor historical pro life legislation. governor john kasich is now tasked with considering the adoption of one of the strict imabortion laws in the country. it is a measure that would ban abortions upon the first heart beats of the fetus. heart beats that are often measured in just six weeks into a woman's pregnancy. fox's shannon breem has the details on this for us tonight from washington. shannon? >> martha, advocates on both sides of the abortion debate are watching and waiting to see what ohio governor and one time presidential candidate john kasich will do with the so-called heart beat bill. just passed from lawmakers there. it bans everyone from getting an abortion after first checking for a heart beat and continuing with an abortion if a heart beat is detected. roughly around six weeks into a pregnancy. the doctor who breaks the law could face up to a year in
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prison. the bill contains an exception if the mother's life is in danger but there are no exceptions in cases of rape or incest. pro choice ohio's executive director says quote one in three women choose to have nan aborti their lifetime. it is out of touch with ohio values and is completely unacceptable. she continues, clearly this bill's supporters are hoping that president-elect trump will have the clans to pack the u.s. supreme court with justices that are poised to return roe versus wade. we must prevent that from happening to protect women's lives. similar laws have been struck down in arkansas and north dakota and now the clock is ticking in ohio. if kasich signs the bill or does nothing within ten days it'll become law early in 2017. if he veto he the measure, that is the end and last 3/5 of the state house and senate vote to
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override his veto. multiple groups including aclu have vowed to immediately sue if the law does go into effect. martha? >> our thanks to shannon braem. here with more, lisa booth, washington examiner columnist and fox news contributor. naomi, host of the filter on sirius xm. thank you. good to have you here tonight. a lot of pressure on john kasich. this bill is sitting on his decembdesk and obviously a lot of pro life advocates would like to see him sign it. but as shannon pointed out in the past he has said he is pro life but believes in exceptions for rape and insist which is not in this bill. n naomi, what do you think should happen? >> number one i think is bill a flatout unconstitutional. similar bills have been struck in oklahoma and arkansas. i think it is bat politics for donald trump. donald trump has a lot of things on his desk right now.
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he needs easy wins. this is a way to unify the left. unify republicans who know this is bad politics and furthermore it is just dane injurious. most women don't know they are pregnant by five or six weeks. it doesn't stop abortions. a forces a woman to get an abortion in a dangerous place and we know that. there is history to prove that. if activists are unified in an effort like this i think they have a clear path to victory and i think john kasich's history shows that he is even against bills like this which do not exclude women who have experienced rape or insist. >> lisa, what do you think? >> i don't think it is as controversial as the media purports it to be. quinnipiac did polling in 2013 and found that voters were split 46/47 on it. it is not as controversial and she just purported it to be. but north dakota had similar and
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it wack struck down in supreme court and refused to hear it. it will likely meet the same fate. what is important here is the movement on the pro life community and feeling emboldened under president-elect donald trump. if you look at what is happening across the street, there is month pro life legislation in the state level in recent time and only going to get emboldened when republicans hold more state legislators than ever before in history and majority are republicans and have you a president-elect who is committed to things like nominating pro life supreme court justices. also another important thing real quick martha is the fact that there is another bill on governor john kasich's desk which he will sign which will make ohio the 18th state to support banning abortions at 20 weeks which is something the majority of americans support and something that hillary clinton did not support. she want abortions at 20 weeks which is extreme. >> yeah. 43 states have some or all abortions after a certain point illegal. as you point out, that other law would make ohio the 20th state
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in terms of the 20-week law. we look across the numbers now, 4 7 /* 7% of the country is pro choice. 46 spe 46% is pro life. i think numbers have been changing especially with new technology that does show things such as heart beat at such an early start of the game. i would expect given president-elect trump's stance that will pick pro life judges. and this is something we will hear more about. >> there is a report showing 57% of americans believe in some form of abortion, legal or outright completely banned -- outright completely banned -- being well this here's a load-bearing wall. we'll go ahead and rip that out. that'll cause a lot of problems. hmm. totally unnecessary and it triples the budget. we'll be totally behind schedule, right? (laughschedules. schedules. great, okay. wouldn't it be great if everyone said what they meant? the citi® double cash card does.
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today marks a significant day in our nation's history. 75 years ago on december 7th, 1941, japanese fighter jets bombed the u.s. naval base in pearl harbor for more than two solid hours launching our country into world war ii. more than 2400 american lives were lost if those hours. another 1100 for injured. today a moving tribute to the
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site that remembers our rheros. watch. live tonight at pearl harbor in hawaii with more. good evening, trace. >> reporter: hi, martha. the ceremonies are still under way here including at the uss arizona memorial. it's the grave site to sailors and marines. other arizona survivors who died later are also interred there but today two more sailors on the arizona who died this year will have their ashes placed inside the wreckage. in essence they'll be joining their band of brothers, and for one of them he'll join his rea brother because his twin was also on board the arizona 75 years ago and was killed by the japanese. so now there are five survivors left of the u.s. arizona and
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four of them were at pearl harbor today. they were asked how it is they were able to get off the burning ship. watch. >> they said abandoned ship, the ones that was on the deck got into a boat and taken around the stern of the arizona. that's how i got off. >> we got off the ship by rope hand over hand off the vessel. >> we got ahold of a sailor on board the vessel, and they told us the heaving line, it was a heavy line with a weight on it, and he tied that line on and we pulled that across and proceeded to go hand over hand across the vessel, but 70 or 80 feet. i don't know how i made it, but i'm here. >> they said abandon ship. the motor lines. we came back.
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>> so they fled the attack, but they came back to fight the fight, and during his keynote speech today an admiral who is the top u.s. commander of the pacific fleet made it very clear those men were, in fact, heros and the admiral took a swipe at today's climate. listen to what he said directly after the national anthem. watch. >> you can bet that the men and women that we honor today and those who died that fateful morning 75 years ago never took a knee and never failed to stand whenever they heard our national anthem being played. >> there were some 10,000 visitors here today. many of them world war ii veterans in their 90s and many of them acknowledged this will likely be their final trip to pearl harbor. >> we thank them for their stories. extraordinary stories. we'll be right back.
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megyn is on the west coast as part of her "settle for more" book tour. today she was holidayed at a women and entertainment ceremony. she spoke about the wild election we all just witnessed and why she has high hopes for donald trump's presidency. a message that was not well received by certain people in the crowd. watch. >> as for our president-elect, donald trump, i have high hopes for him. despite the tweets and all the rest of it, there is much to admire about donald trump. [ booing ] >> there is. stop that. stop that. there's room for the opposition in this country, absolutely. guess who it is, kathy griffin. got to love her. that would be the loyal opposition. amarosa is going to hurt you.
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>> so that middle finger, i guess, was part of that whole thing and language that came courtesy of kathy griffin, perhaps known for her work in "my life in the d list". megan offered advice for those faced in situations like that. >> when the dark forces rear their ugly head, we must maintain our dignity and reject the urge to fight with pigs which gets us dirty and the pigs enjoy. that's my number one lesson. don't get in the gutter. we don't have to settle for less when it comes to respect and dignity and what we can accomplish. we resolve that we will do better and be better, and that we will find a way to settle for more. god bless you. thank you and good luck.
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megyn's new book is a new york times best seller now, "settle for more". thank you for watching tonight. ly see you at 9:00 in the morning. the kelly file. see you later. tonight president-elect donald trump meets with washington political elites but should be very careful. newt gingrich will react. >> is he still under consideration? >> yes, he is. >> does he have a chance to become secretary of state? >> he does. >> then the president-elect says mitt romney is still considered for secretary of state. trump transition members weigh in. and time magazine names donald trump person of the year, but they take a shot and call him the president of the divided states of america. >> when you say divided states of america, i didn't divide them. they're divided now. >>

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