kelly and this is "the kelly file." ♪ welcome to "hannity." tensions rise between the u.s. and israel after obama administration betrays america's closest ally in the middle east. i'm judge jeanine pirro in for sean tonight. the fallout continues after the obama administration failed to veto a united nation's resolution that declares israeli settlements in east jerusalem and the west bank a, quote, flagrant violation of international law. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu continues to condemn the obama administration for the unprecedented move. take a look.
>> american administration and israeli government have disagreed about settlements, but we agreed that the security council was not the place to resolve this issue. we knew that going there would make negotiations harder and drive peace further away. and as i told john kerry on thursday, friends don't take friends to the security council. i am encouraged by the statements of our friends in the united states, republicans and democrats alike. they understand how reckless and destructive this u.n. resolution was. they understand that the western wall isn't occupied territory. >> president-elect donald trump is throwing his support behind israel and tweeted out, quote, the united nations has such great potential, but right now it is just a club for people to get together, talk and have a good time.
so sad. joining us with reaction is the author of "ally" deputy minister for diplomacy in israeli prime minister's office, ambassador michael or in. thank you for being here, ambassador. can you tell us why israel was so deeply offended by this resolution? >> good to be with you, judge. we were hurt, we were outraged by this appalling resolution. understand this resolution labels over 500,000 of our citizens criminals, violators of international law. as prime minister netanyahu it takes our holiest places, the western wall, and labels them illegally occupied territory. the resolution exposes us to sanctions and boycotts as palestinians and others will try to use this resolution as the basis for suing us in
international criminal courts around the world. it is a greater threat than the missiles fired at us, if you can believe that. it is a terrible, terrible move. and it sends a horrible message to the world about what america cares about, what the u.n. cares about, about two hours from where i'm sitting and talking to you here, judge, is syria where over 400,000 people have been butchered. five hours east of here is iraq where tens of thousands of people have been killed in the civil war. three hours south of here is the sinai where there's a civil war against isis. an hour and a half from here is hamas, and all of these millions of people are calling out to america and the u.n., help us, and what does america and the u.n. do? they beat up on the only democracy in the middle east. think about what america's allies think tonight. >> i want to look forward, ambassador, but for a moment i want to look back. in 2011 or 2012 susan rice vetoed on behalf of the united states in the u.n. the same
resolution. what has happened in four years, and did you have any notice that this was coming? >> well, i was there when susan rice gave that speech. i was listening to it very, very carefully, and she listed all of the reasons why the united states, this administration, was against settlement but they would never let the u.n. interfere and try to impose a solution, that there was only one solution, and that arose from direct negotiations between israelis and palestinians, and by abstaining on this resolution the obama administration has basically backtracked and negated its own long-standing position, and a long-standing position of the united states going back to 1967, that there is no alternative to direct talks between israelis and arabs. now, we knew this was going to happen. in the knesset where i serve as a member of israel's parliament we have been discussing the dangers looming in the
three-month window between the american elections and the inauguration of the next president. and president obama since the first day in office in 2009 has publicly condemned israel, our policy in judea and samaria, in the west bank and in jerusalem, in our capital. he was never going to desist from that. he was going to keep on coming at us on that, and we assumed that this window would be a very dangerous time for us. >> and it is, and it is. but, ambassador, what can you do about this now and what can you expect from the trump administration going forward? >> well, you know about the iron dome, judge. >> yes. >> it is an advanced anti-ballistic system that has protected israel's skies for years now, and it takes down enemy missiles coming at us. we need a diplomatic and a legal iron dome where the united states says to those entities and countries that want to do us harm, that want to boycott us, that want to sanction us, if you touch the state of israel you're
going to have to come to us because we're going to protect israel, we're going to protect israel by making anybody who hurts israel pay for it, pay for it diplomatically, pay for it financially. and, frankly, if the incoming trump administration would move the american embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem, that would send a very powerful message that the united states has no intention of conforming with this appalling resolution. >> and with respect to those countries, and i want to make one thing clear. had the united states vetoed that in the security council it would not have passed, but the signal has been made. can america undo the resolution? no, based on a new president. >> america cannot undo the resolution. >> cannot. >> but it can make those who try to apply the resolution, it can make them pay for it. america has a lot of tools in its hands, judge. 20% of the
u.n.'s budget comes from the united states, and without it the united nations would be in refuse shape. >> and very quickly, you have high hopes for president trump and the relationship with israel? >> we do have high hopes. we have high hopes always with the united states of america. at the end of the day we have no alternative to america as our ultimate ally and the united states has no alternative to israel as its ultimate ally. there's no other country in this region technologically efficient, no one is burning american flags in the streets of tel aviv from where i'm talking to you. >> ambassador michael or en. thank you for joining. here with more reaction is the author of "defeating jihad," dr. sebastian gorka as well as fox news contributor rick grinnell. i'm going to start with you, dr. gorka. the message as the ambassador indicated is very clear. and that is as 400,000 people die in syria and the u.n.
security council does nothing, they take a disputed land issue, prejudge it, and make it as though an international ruling is in effect and should control. what do you say? >> merry christmas, judge.. it is outrageous. this is a lame duck presidency, but what has happened in the last eight years, the obama administration has created a global chaos. the world is on fire wherever you look, north, south, east, and west. europe, you see russia invade ukraine can. asia, you see china build fake islands and then put military installations on them. then you see disaster after disaster in the middle east, the rise of isis, the rise of boko haram, on and on. what do they do? instead of following the hip
krathip -- hypocratic oath in the last months of the administration, what do they do? they throw gasoline on the fire. they side with everybody who really is using the united nations to execute a form of veiled anti-semitism. there's nothing else you can describe this as. >> well -- >> this -- go ahead. >> certainly it is a reverse of a position that the united states has taken in the past, rick grinnell. and there are those who say that the united states is the one who was behind the resolution in the first place. >> look, there's no question. i spoke specifically and directly to the french ambassador to the united states, and he told me they have been working on the obama administration for weeks. then we see the media from new zealand that have now come out and confirmed the fact that the new zealand foreign minister has had multiple conversations with john kerry, trying to find the language that would be acceptable so that the united
states would abstain. so strategically, judge, what we're looking at here is this has been weeks in the making. this is a plan of ben rhodes and barack obama, and they have secretly tried at the end of the administration to give it to israel and to try to blame this on new zealand or egypt or others while they have been the ones negotiating the language, they have been the ones that have been secretly trying to figure out a way, how do they kick b.b. netanyahu on the way out the door. don't forget that the barack obama team tried to defeat b.b. netanyahu. this is a long standing -- >> you mean in the election. >> -- problem that we've had from the cairo speech at the beginning of the obama administration to now this lame duck session where ben rhodes and barack obama are trying to kick israel. >> dr. gorka, do you see donald trump doing something significant in terms of in any way reversing this decision by the security council?
>> i think the ambassador was right. formally in international law this kind of resolution can't be unilaterally undone, but america is the most powerful nation in the world. it is the only nation that can really do something about this by itself in terms of putting pressure on every nation responsible for this resolution. and on top of that, i think after january 20th, judge, i think the white house will have a very different attitude to the utility of the united nations and also the importance of israel, which is one of, if not our most important ally in the middle east. >> and, rick, as it relates to the united nations and israel, israel is now apparently calling in all of the foreign ministers from other countries, and they will exert whatever diplomatic punishments they -- if we can call it that. do they have any leverage at all
in a situation like this? >> they do have leverage and they have a lot of leverage in donald trump. let's make it clear. president-elect trump is going to be israel's best ally. he's going to make sure that this is a priority. this resolution is dangerous, judge, in that it literally encourages countries to find ways to punish israel for not giving up land to the palestinians. this is a land dispute between two countries, and now we have an international body like the united nations security council taking sides and saying that the world should punish israel for not taking the palestinian side, for not giving up land. it is really outrageous and directly affects every single nation. donald trump knows this and will make it a priority. >> don't the palestinians get money for every israeli that they kill? >> oh, sure. look -- >> okay. >> there's a long history. >> that's what i thought. >> -- of rewarding radical
islamic terrorism. >> exactly. >> around the region. >> what about that -- >> and i think donald trump will make clear this is unacceptable. >> thank you. >> we're going to stand with israel and make sure every country diplomatically is punished. >> dr. sebastian gorka and rick grinnell, thank you for being with us. coming up right here on "hannity." >> if i had run again and articulated it, i think i could have mobilized a majority of the american people to rally behind it. >> a very smug president obama says that if he were allowed to run again he would have beaten president-elect donald trump. charles hurts will be here. later -- >> are you saying then that you would not sit down with president-elect trump if he invited you to the white house to meet on common ground? >> oh, no, i won't go. i'm not going to sit down with him. i'm not going to go. i'm not going to pretend. >> sore loser democrats are
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aide from economically troubled venezuela, the 55-year-old u.s. embargo getting blame for some of cuba's problem. costing them $4.5 billion next year. i'm jackie ibanez. back to "hannity." ♪ >> welcome back to "hannity." there are just 23 days until president obama is officially out of office. but he wants you to know that if allowed he would have beaten donald trump and won a third term. take a listen to this one. >> the majority does buy into the notion of a one america that is tolerant and diverse and open and -- and full of energy and dynamism. and the problem is that it doesn't always manifest itself in politics, right? you know, i am confident in this
vision because i'm confident that if i, uh -- if i had run again and articulated it, i think i could have mobilized a majority of the american people to rally behind it. >> not surprisingly, president-elect trump fired back on twitter writing, quote, president obama said that he thinks he would have won against me. he should say that, but i say no way. jobs leaving, isis, obamacare, et cetera. joining me now is fox news contributor charles hurt, former national justice direct for tezlyn figaro, and noelle nikpour. i will start with you, charles. let me ask you this. is he delusional or depressed oraa frayed people are going to for get him? why is he talking about this?
>> i think all of the above. i don't have any idea what he was every talking about before he got to the part where he said that, you know, if i had run again i certainly would have won. that's the kind of taunt you -- you hurl over your shoulder as you're walking out, running away from the bar fight. but he -- you know, the bottom line is he -- you know, he may not have been on the ballot this time, but his policies were, and his policies have been on the ballot for the past eight years. while, yes, he did win reelection in 2012, democrats have lost 1,000 seats based on his policies, based on his record. and so, you know, what he is saying right there is just flatout and simply not true. >> tezlyn, isn't he the one who said, i will take this personally, you know, if she doesn't get elected? it is really a third term for me? >> yes, absolutely right. president obama gal an vised every politician, every pastor and every entertainer, and in the words of the judge the motion was denied. you know, they presented a third
year term, and no one was buying into it. and it is not about, you know, president obama's ego and how he feels about how he would have won. it was the 900 legislators who lost, it was the american people who lost jobs, it was the american people who lost income, it was the american people who lost affordable healthcare. so instead of him talking about how he would have won, let's talk about the people that lost and focus on that. it was the dnc that lost integrity. so perhaps as we go into the new year they can figure out how to not make it about the shiny object and focus on the grassroots like the republicans have done, and perhaps they'll see a win. let's just get over it. get off the field. you've lost. pick your toys up and go home and try again. >> and, you know, noelle, as tezlyn was saying, all you have to do is look at the facts. it wasn't just donald trump, the senate, the house, the gubernatorial races, it was a trifecta. >> you know what? so much for a smooth transition. you know when obama said, let's make this smooth, let's do the best we can. whatever on that? you know, it is just like he
believes his own rhetoric. and how arrogant, how arrogant to sit there and say, if i had run for a third term i would have won. really? slap in the face hillary clinton, slap in the face the voters, the middle class voters that voted you out. although he may have won some of the states that trump won, the fact of it is -- >> previously. >> -- that trump won. yeah. >> well, they turned around and not only did trump win, but they changed parties, and that's pretty huge. charles, you know, i'm going to ask you to listen to what david axelrod said about obama not accepting that the election was a referendum on his view of the world. he doesn't accept that the election was a verdict on his view of where the country should be going. he points out that she got a majority of the vote. he feels he would have won the election, but there's no doubt that there is some criticism implicit in his remarks. >> to me the criticism is of
hillary clinton, correct? >> absolutely. i must say this is the one part of all of this i have enjoyed immensely, is how much he throws her under the bus at every turn. and he was doing that the day after, just saying, you know, talking about how much harder he worked when he ran for reelection or he ran for the first time, and talking about when he beat her how hard he worked in iowa in order to beat her. but can you imagine if george w. bush in 2008 had come out after the election and just trashed john mccain after barack obama won? nobody -- no decent person would do this. to have the president of the united states now doing this, i think it really does say a lot about both how he has governed and kind of his -- you know, the way he is going to i think be remembered going forward. >> and tezlyn, he said in this interview, he says, even people who disagreed with me, and says that my vision is the right vision. now, how do you justify that?
how do you rationalize that, tezlyn? >> well, i rationalize it that people got tired of hearing a vision. they want to see action. you know, anybody can talk about what you're going to do but, see, when it came to the reality of what was actually done, people were over it. you know, we see that as we look across the states, like we've mentioned several times with all of the legislative seats that were lost. you know, this grassroot movement that republicans have been able to successfully implement came from the ground up. and so although he gave a good speech, a great vision, when it came down to the reality, people were over it. and for him to say that he was not on the ballot, that he did not instruct clinton on how to, you know, produce the same type of results that he did is just a flatout lie. you know, he instructed every one around the country to support hillary clinton. we saw that with bernie sanders and the dnc leaks. >> he did. >> and he just will not accept the fact that you lost. you put everything on the field and lost. >> even beyoncé couldn't pull it in. >> they talked about the fact democrats had the ground game
and donald trump didn't. the fact that he won and his whole party won, what does it tell you? >> it tells you that they did not have the ground game, number one, and, number two, they didn't have the ball and they didn't play the right way. you know, i think americans are really ready to see israel take a respectful place and ready for prosperity. >> all right. thank you all for being here tonight. and coming up right here on "hannity" -- >> are you saying then that you would not sit down with president-elect trump if he invited you to the white house to meet on common ground? >> oh, no. i won't go. i'm not going to sit down with him. i'm not going to go. i'm not going to pretend. >> democrats already saying they will not work with president-elect donald trump once he's in office. doug schoen and frank luntz here with reaction. and later, growing outrage after a drexel university professor tweeted that he wants, quote, white genocide for christmas. plus, chaos at malls all over the country as americans fight
welcome back to hannity. ♪ welcome back to "hannity." president-elect trump is just weeks away from taking office, but the democrats are already promising to make things tough for the new administration. take a look at the latest example from california congresswoman max evine waters. >> i have no intention of pretending everything is all right, that we're going to work together. for me as the ranking member of the financial services committee where he said he's going to bring down dodd/frank and he's going to get rid of the consumer financial protection bureau, i'm going to fight him every inch of the way. >> well, let me ask -- if i could just interrupt you for one second. >> yes. >> excuse me. i want to get this straight. are you saying you would not sit down with president-elect trump if he invited you to the white
house to meet on common ground? >> oh, no. i won't go. i'm not going to sit down with him. i'm not going to go. i'm not going to pretend. >> joining me now with reaction is pollster frank luntz and fox news contributor doug schoen. gentlemen, i got to tell you, that language, you know, i'm going to fight him every step of the way. i mean, okay, i get the politics of it, but to sit there and actually say as an elected congresswoman whose job is to work for her constituents and the american people, is she not violating the spirit of her oath as an elected member of congress? i'll start with you, frank. >> well, i don't get the politics of it. the fact is that the democrats are going to have 25 seats up in 2018, and 10 of those seats are going to be in states that trump won by a big margin, that actually if a democratic senator is watching maxine waters right now he or she ought to be
furious because it is going to make it impossible for them over the next two years. the american people want compromise. the american people want cooperation. they want to, and i quote, get things done. they want to repeal healthcare. they want to repeal the obama executive orders. they want to make real change, and they expect the politicians to work together to get it done. >> doug, didn't the american people in this last election make it so clear that they want the sides to work together? and by her digging her heels in this sand so deeply, saying i'm not even going to meet with him, i'm not going to talk to him, what is that about, doug? >> well, it is about playing to a narrow sliver of her constituency. >> and does it do her any good? >> the hard left which -- it does her no good and it does the party worse as frank suggests. look, frank is right. the american people want compromise and conciliation. it is not to say that democrats have to agree with everything trump does or says, but to rule
out legislating compromising and working with him is a profound mistake, jeanine. >> i have to tell you, frank, you know, you have looked at the numbers, you know what is going on. you've got nancy pelosi now who has got no credibility but, you know, got re-elected to her position because she apparently has the money. aren't the democrats understanding they lost seats in the house, they lost seats in the senate, they lost the white house, they lost the gubernatorial races, they lost something like 50% of, you know, the state houses, both houses, the legislators in the states. are they tone deaf? >> i -- i think so. but this also puts pressure on the republicans to actually make this happen. i can't imagine a viewer of this show right now who will accept republican failure to repeal obamacare. i can't can imagine a viewer accepting the republican
inability to stop wasteful washington spending and to reform our out-of-control tax code. >> but -- >> now, if the democrats want to listen, if they want to be smart, they're going to participate in this effort and they're going to have their voices heard. but if not, then it is still paramount on the gop to deliver exactly what they promised on election day. >> but the gop can do it, can't they, doug? they have the house, the senate and the white house. >> you know, they can do it, but as we saw with obamacare you do better for yourself with a broad bipartisan constituency rather than a narrow constituency. the flip side of frank's point is if obamacare is repealed as i expect it to be, the american people and the democrats should fight to maintain the coverage that was extended in a more cost effective way. there are ways to cut the budget that protects social programs. democrats can and should cooperate with the new administration, because it is good politics, it is good government, and it is just plain
right. common sense. >> and, frank, given that the american people feel so strongly about obstructionists, i mean don't the democrats now become the obstructionists? >> the smartest strategy for the gop right now is to save each of these interviews. every time a democrat comes up and says, i'm not going to meet with the president, i'm not going to work with the republicans, save that and then beginning in the middle of next year start to run those ads in places like montana and idaho, places that donald trump won big, and to ask the democratic senator from that state, do you agree or disagree. you could see republican gains in 2018 even though typically you'd have a bad election year for the incumbent party. it is the dumbest strategy i could ever imagine the democrats doing, and i don't get it. >> and, doug, you know, knowing donald trump as i do, he will work across the aisle. he will do everything he can to bring people to his side and to
listen, and i think that the democrats can only look bad. agree? >> you know, i couldn't agree more. i know donald trump. i have worked for him in a business capacity, and i know him to be a practical man. he met with senator schumer. they have the basis for cooperation, but the democrats would make a mistake putting in keith ellison as head of the dnc and following the precepts of maxine waters. bad politics, a big mistake. >> thank you, gentlemen. and coming up, a drexel university professor is under fire. listen to this, after tweeting he wanted, quote, white genocide for christmas. plus, scenes like this played out in malls across the country as americans battled each other during holiday shopping. our panel will have reaction to both stories. that and much more as "hannity" continues. ♪
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welcome back to "hannity." an associate professor of politics at drexel university is under fire this week for some very inflammatory tweets. on christmas eve dr. george ciccariello-maher tweeted, quote, all i want for christmas is white genocide. ciccariello-maher this double downed in another tweet writing, quote, to clarify, when the whites were massacred during the haitian revolution, that was a good thing indeed. the university was quick to criticize the professor releasing a statement that reads in part, professor ciccariello-maher's comments are utterly reprehensible, deeply disturbing and do not reflect the values of the university. ciccariello-maher has sense clarified his remarks, claiming his tweets were purely satirical. he told righters white genocide is, quote, a figure meant of the racist imagination, it should be mocked and i'm glad to have mocked it. joining me for reaction are
psychology expert dr. gina loudon, trump executive committee member reverend darrell scott and turning point usa founder charlie kirk. i will start with you dr. loudon, what is going on? is this satirical, rhetorical or real? >> i don't know about you, judge, but this makes me realize indeed i spent far too much time in academia. it is a wonder you and i aren't as brain washed as some of the folks that come out of that. you know, the good thing is at least this one particular academic was being honest about the level of radicalism that is prevalent in our universities today. so i kind of hope he keeps tweeting. i think it exposes what the left is really all about these days. >> all right. reverend darrell scott, what do you make of this? >> i think maybe first of all the guy had too much egg nog to drink over the holidays and got in front of the computer, and his hands didn't sync with his brain, and then he realized the enormity of what he said and he
tried to dial it back. but he needs to be fired, that's what needs to happen. >> what about the first amendment. >> because these are things that the generation -- >> let's talk about that, reverend. a lot of people agree with you, but what about the first amendment? >> well, he has a responsibility. you know, sometimes when you take certain public positions you abrogate your first amendment liberty. you have liberty but you shouldn't take license. you have to have responsibility to those of you under your sphere of influence so you just don't say anything because of the fact you can influence people in a negative way. this guy needs to get fired from his job. that's what he needs to get. >> all right. >> maybe he can start his own school or something. >> and charlie kirk, i mean you've been talking about campuses for a long time. i imagine there are a lot of students who today agree with him. >> well, not as many as i think the mainstream media would like us to believe. what i think is most disturbing about this incident is that the media is acting like this is somehow isolated. you know what? our project has done in the last
couple of weeks, called professorwatchlist.org, documenting these radical professors going completely off the rails. we have gotten messages and e-mails from parents and students that say, yeah, that's nothing, wait until you hear what is going on at my school. another example is that a class that people pay money for at the university of wisconsin, madison that says, the problem with whiteness. it is unbelievable. this is not an isolated incident. higher education has been completely corrupted by the far left, and, you know, we are happy to play a role. >> yes, it has. >> to expose this. but the media needs to highlight how off the rails higher education has become and this is another example of that. >> we're certainly hearing more about it. i want to go to another level of craziness and scenes that are playing out all over the country at malls. take a look at this. and as you can see, i mean there are all kinds of fights,
hysteria, reports of gun fire at malls across the country. some of this is, they say, being instigated by individuals, some of it is, you know, supposedly sales. what -- is this a new phenomenon we are going to be seeing? i'll start with dr. loudon. >> well, this is a mob mentality. this is similar to the same ano, ma'am anymority people feel they have when they get on twitter and spew their rhetoric and people join in thinking, well, nobody knows who i am. if you have two people in a store, judge, and they both want the same item, you are not going to see this sort of fighting because there's only two people. but when you have a mob like that, there tends to be a feeling of anonymousness psychologically in those numbers so people act completely differently than they might act if they knew they would ever been identified. i think beginning to call these people out and to identify them
individually might help a little bit, but these are the reasons why many of us, sadly, shop online and why -- the reason why merchants all over the country in some cases are really hurting these days, because people don't want to encounter this if they go to a mall. >> all right. and, reverend scott, you know, there's a lot of talk about liability in situations like this. you know, we've got swat teams responding, police are responding, reports of gun fire. i mean what do laws have to do, you know, to stop this? i mean all of this for the sake of a few bargains and at the end of the day there's only two things available? >> yeah, actually it is for the sake of a facebook post or a twitter post because people do this and instigate this so they can get likes or whatever on facebook. it seems as if rioting has become fashionable in america, and it was promoted by the left, we know that. it has become fashionable. you know, we have the powers that be that are slow to criticize it and act as if we're exercising our american right to
riot, and it is getting out of hand and it has gotten out of hand. store owners are going to take necessary precautions and then they will be accused of profiling, of racism simply because there's a certain demographic, there's a certain collective that is usually behind all of this rioting. >> all right. charlie -- >> when they take precautionary measures against it they will be criticized for it. >> charlie, is it young people behind this thing, getting their rocks off here? >> it is mostly young people, but i would like to say in 24 hours amazon prime descriptions went up through the roof. malls aren't as enjoyable as it is during the holly siday seaso people will get behind their laptop and use digital online shopping. people say this kind of behavior is glorified through social media, to get a couple of cheap likes and become an instant celebrity. it needs to be locked down immediately. >> coming up, after the terror
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trade center. think of that. one attack after another after another. so let me state this as clearly as it can be stated. i am going to keep radical islamic terrorists the hell out of our country. >> that was president-elect during his recent thank you tour vowing to fight radical islam. after the latest terror attack in europe and the radical islamist threat growing around the world, do muslims here in america need to speak out more to help to try to prevent these attacks from happening? joining me now with reaction from the islamic house of wisdom, imam mohammad ali elahi, and from act for america brigitte gabriel. good evening. >> good evening. >> i'm going to start with you, imam. we've got this islamic threat. you don't deny that? >> well, judge, before i start -- >> that's a yes or no.
let's start with a premise. there is an islamic threat that is facing the united states, correct? yes or no? >> well, let me answer this way. first of all, i'm going to answer -- >> no. >> i'm going to answer your question, but let me first of all say i mean to the pope francis prayer for peace in christmas ceremony. >> i'm happy for the pope. >> peace for yemen, peace for iran, peace for the holy land, peace for africa and also peace for america, and america free of racism and hatred and intimidation and violence. >> okay. what's the point? >> everything. >> what is your point? >> my point is that first of all the expression of islamic radical is kind of highjacking the identity of the muslim. >> okay. you don't like the term. >> it is like somebody -- let somebody steal your credit car. >> who was responsible for the world trade center. >> you're treating this -- >> who was responsible for or
land owe, paris. >> we need with islam -- >> all right, imam. brigitte -- >> imam. >> you can't take up the whole time. >> this is exactly the problem we have in this country. it is because imams like him when they are put on the spot and asked the question directly are not even coming forward and answering the question. so how can we expect them to urge their followers to come forward with information about radicals who are plotting to attack us? >> you are a radical christian, by the way, brigitte. >> exactly -- >> on the part of the muslim community and less terrorism. >> brigitte, the muslim community is not coming forward. so, imam, i'm going to give you another chance. >> yes. >> i'm going to given you another chance, otherwise we're going to finish totally with brigitte. here is the chance. should the family of the san bernardino attackers who saw the weapons, who saw all of the instruments that they used, should they have said something,
and why didn't they? >> we have to condemn terrorism. we have to do something about it. president trump must do something about it. >> okay. what should he do? >> and the way to do it, and the way to do it i believe, judge, you can take care of isis, al qaeda in one month, but this is the way to defeat the terrorism, is let the cia don't train al qaeda in syria and saudi arabia, don't send military and money for them. and don't send medicine for them. deprive them of resources and they are done. >> imam, do you agree we have to prevent radical islamic extremists from coming to this country and killing us and killing muslims, too? yes or no? >> you are absolutely -- >> good. >> -- against any radical. >> say yes. >> christians, any of them. >> i'm going to tell our viewers you said yes. now to brigitte. why can't he say yes? >> he is beating around the bush. he is beating around the bush.
>> no, no, i'm not. >> he doesn't want to answer the question. you asked about the families who saw in san bernardino where they were putting the bomb together in the house. how come the mother did not come forward? how come nobody else from the family came forward? >> they have to. >> this is the problem. they are harboring and supporting and protecting and covering up for the terrorists who want to blow us up. imams like him are the first part of the problem because they're not saying anything. >> i have one more question. i feel like i'm in the ring. now, the care cair chief tweets and deletes it, he wishes more had died in the russian plane crash. do you condemn that, imam? >> of course, and i talked to dawlid walid who is part of our charge of cair in michigan, and he told me first of all that the guy doesn't represent the entire cair. i apologize for what he said, but of course i'm against that statement.
i am -- although i'm friendly with some cair can leaders in washington d.c., but i have been criticized their position to syria. they hated so much ba shaur assad that sometimes they turn, you know, a blind eye to the terrorist part of opposition in syria. >> you know what, imam. it is clear. >> the crimes in syria as well -- >> i don't want to hear about blind eyes or bad eyesight. all i want to know is if you kill innocent people you're the devil. i want to thank you for being here. brigitte, i'm going to give you the last word. >> cair is a terrorist organization, the front of hamas in the united states. four of their leaders too have already been in e aisle, two are rotting in american prisons. >> that is not true. >> i have to stop it. all right. thank you for being here. >> that's reality. >> thank you, both of you. >> terrorism every day in america -- >> "star wars" icon carrie fisher passed away earlier today at the age of 60.
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actor carrie fisher passed away at the age of 60 today. here more is diana falzone. do i anna, princess leia a hero of mine, no holds barred, kind of in your face new yorker. everybody devastated. >> everybody is devastated. you know what? she almost didn't take that role because she was celeb spawn to debbie reynolds and eddie fisher who were famous stars and she didn't want to take on that iconic role because she knew it would make her a celebrity and she would be under that spotlight. she thought becoming a celebrity could lead to problems. as you know, carrie fisher had a very problematic life with a lot of trials and tribulations. >> right. but she overcame them. >> she did, but she was a work in progress. she was probably one of the most candid and honest celebrities out there, with her memoirs. she was actually on a wild book tour right before her death about her latest tell-all, and that's where the rumor came out