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"hannity." have a great night. >> special edition of "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight.wo our big interviews, big issue special. >> i will compare my iq with anybody, okay. >> donald trump will be the next president of united states after a whirlwind election. >> now, it is time for america to bindid the wounds of divisio. >> oliver stone and i debated national security. >> they have to have some, a blanket of ability to tap. >> they do have an invasive ability beyond all measure supported by a technological machine that is incredible. >> award-winning director adam mckay revisits the great recession of 2008 and his movie "the big short." >> we look at this issue of something that goes beyond right or left wing.
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it's obviously affected everyon everyone. >> looking back at the murder of martha moxley all these years later, robert f kennedy, jr., lays out some interesting revelations that could shed a different light on his cousin. >> he had a case of post-traumatic stress. >> caution, you are about to enter the "no spin zone". "factor" begins now. ♪ >> hi, i am bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the special edition of "factor." the year's presidential election has been one of the most momentous and contentious -- that rhymes -- in american history. it all began back in june 2015. when then presidential hopeful donald trump appeared with me on "the factor" a right after his g announcement that he intended to nomination for president of the united states. well, since then, we have spoken
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dozens of times with mr. trump over the past 18 months, discussing what he would do as president and his take on the twists and turns of the presidential race. takee a look. >> obamacare. not doing well, i think any measure, any fair-minded person would say, a lot of americans are getting hurt, have to pay more for their premiums, more deductibles, they are getting their choices of doctors. it doesn't seem that the democratic base, which wanted obamacare so much, cares. they don't seem to care, you don't see an outrage building oa the left about obamacare. i'm wondering if you know why that is. >> i think they care. i think people care. i think people are getting wiped out. the numbers they gave, 24, 25% increase, i don't believe that.d i think the minimum is going to be 40% and 50%. i think the people are going to care. >> can you tell me simply, you know i am a simple man and have trouble grasping complicated situations, you say, you are
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going to revoke and replace obamacare. i know you want to have insurance companies compete nationwide, no boundaries, that would drive premiums down. what else? are you going to subsidize 30 million people who can't affordi insurance? are you going to help them out? >> i like the concept of health care savings account, i think it is great. you must get rid of the boundaries between the states sk we have competition because right now, you'll have competition -- >> what about the insurance companies?s? one of the reasons the obamacare thing is going through the roof is because there are 30 million americans having trouble doing anything, they can't work, they don't work, whatever, now, the obama administration is giving them free health care. will you continue that? >> the way i view it, two groups. the people that can afford it, it will be much lower, v much better, much lower price, and really phenomenal, they will be tremendous competition. by the way, there will be plans that you are not talking about right now because the competition will make great plans. much lower prices, much better.
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you will block grant medicaid to the states and they w will take care of the people that cannot take care of themselves. >> the states get the responsibility to do that. >> absolutely. >> when you see how you're being treated, not only by the national press, but say "saturday night live," alec baldwin is doing kate mckinnon doing mrs. clinton. do you feel that it is coordinated, there is no doubt that most of the press, i said this from the very beginning, you will remember. i told you, the day you announce that you were going to get hammered, personally, not just becausest of your policies, but because they don't like you, they don't think you are worthy for thisy job, all of that. >> they don't like what i stand for. that too. it is more you. >> i will compare my iq with anybody, okay, excuse me -- >> it wasn't as personal as against you. it is personal against you. >> i'm very proud to say, this
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is the all-time pylon in history, in terms of -- >> my question, do you believe it is-t coordinated? >> bill, i do think so. before i ran, used to get greato press. my wife said the other day, she said, you used to never get a bad story.y. i got some but i got very few. now, i have, i can be in the front page of "the new york times" in three different stories and every one of them is a hit job. understand that. no, it is a very unfair price. -- unfair press. i knew it would be bad, i didn't know it would be this bad. i said, will i get hit, i stand for strong borders, we have to strengthen our s country, we wot have a country without borders, peopleen are pouring across. >> i don't know if anybody can bring an end to individual acts of violence, you know, i don't think it is possible, am i wrong? >> one thing you have to do ise degrade. one thing that is happening, people are going around and they feel emboldened and they feel wonderful and i all of these yog people in our country and other
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countries are looking up to isis because isis continues to talk -- taunt to the united states, they started off in a small area that now, and 28 countries, bill. 28 countries. think of it. this is during hillary clinton's tenure, 28 countries. i want to tell you, that is disgraceful. so, you have to bring them down, you have to bring them down fast.ra you know, the young people in our country and other countries, they are looking up to these people, they have respect for these people. it is like, let's put it thishe way. they are getting good public relations because it looks like they are beating the united states, certainly, like the united states can't beat them. >> it certainly is a psychological war as well as a physical war. western europe hasn't really helped. another thing that you said that was very controversial, you want to profile, you want to profilee arab or muslim how would that work? >> we have no choice. look, israel does it. and israel does it very successfully.. >> they do it in the air force. >> they do it. they do it.
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when theyo see somebody that thy would like to talk to, that they would like to look at, when they would like to maybe open up their satchel and take a look at what is inside, they do it. and they don't like to do it. i don't like to do it. but we have to be, you know, you have a woman who is 87 years old in a wheelchair from sweden, and we have to look at her, if we are going to look at somebody else. it'sm ridiculous. >> what would you do? >> we want to be so politically correct -- >> do you have a vision about how profiling would work?? >> it works. we see somebody that we think would be a problem at airports and other places, you talk to them, you see what is going on. >> i think they do that now. you know, look, the alleged bomber here in new york lived over a chicken stand his father owns in new jersey. i mean, come on. >> one thing i will say, i think they have gained great respect for isis and the leaders of isis. llis we it all the time. they are becoming, theyhe are being radicalized. >> one of the things that you
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are going to have to do to make america great again is restore respect for the country, both overseas and herea in america. you would agree with that, correct?ec >> i agree. 100%. kaepernick said another bad thing about his country, and he said bad stuff about you. you did own a professional football team, what would you do with him? >> he is making a tremendous amount of money, he is leading the american dream, he is trying to make a point. i don't think he is making it the correct way. personally, if it was me, i would not be happy if i were the team owner. i would not tell you what i would do. >> would you fire him? w would you fire him? >> i wouldn't be happy to pay him all of this money, i think what he is doing is very bad for the spirit of the country. i at the same time, he has the right to protest. >> i said that you are going to have, in my opinion of course, you are going to build a wall. there is no question of that. you are going to come down hard on sanctuary cities, criminal aliens, aliens who are here
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illegally, who commit crimes in the usa, he will deport them immediately. you will have some static in the court system because of due process, certainly, you will authorize the parties to do that. am i correct? accurate so far? kate's law.far? >> very important. i know you have been behind that from the very beginning. the issue you areve apparently modifying is what we talked about and i told you very rudely, i was rude, that there is no way you are going to be able to deport 12 million law-abiding, peacefule, aliens, in the system we have. too much due process involved. you won't be able to get an immigration force of that kind, dragging them out of their homes. it looks like you're modifying that, am i correct there? >> i never talked about dragging people out of their homes, bill. i never talked about that. look, just so you understand, we will have a very strong border, people will come back to the country, they'll come back legally. they will have a wall, by the
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way, mexico will pay for the wall, 100%. we will have a wall, mexico will pay for the wall, we will have1a strong border, i will authorize, get rid of all the drug lords and the gang members in all of the people that are here illegally that shouldn't be and committing tremendous crimes. >> there is due process. >> unbelievable crimes. >> you can't just do an executive order. >> very little due process. i think there is very little. the local police know who all of them are and we are going to get them. we will stabilize the border, we will have a strong country, we will have a country again. when it is all completed, the wall, all of this is completed, the people that haven't committed a crime, other than coming into the country, which is, depending on your definition, those people, bill, are going to determine, when we look at where the country is, how the border is, what is happening with our country, which will be down the road, we will make a determination at that time. >> that's a modification of your original position. but that's fine. >> depending on how you want to view it. >> sure.
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>> next up, a national security, edward snowden, an award-winning director, oliver stone. >> questioning the liberal media. you are spying into what they are trying to say. >> maybe i am. if my side is right. >> that is funny, because my side is right. >> right back with it. >> right back with americans - 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's complete with key nutrients we may need. plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. one a day women's in gummies and tablets.
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>> welcome back to our special >> welcome back to our special edition of "the factor." oliver stone stopped by recently to discuss his movie about nsa leaker edward snowden. >> how is this all possible? >> a few words, attack, takeout, bush. think of it as a google search, instead of searching only what people make public, we are looking at everything they don't. so, emails, chats, sms, whatever. >> which people? >> the whole kingdom, snow whit white. >> with us now, the director of the film, the legendary, oliver stone. i didn't get to see, the movie but i send my producers out. before we get into it, i want to know about you. do you see the usa as a noble country? i >> yes. in its intentions, yes.
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i admire its history, much of it. i love, i grew up here. i was a new york boy. my father was a strong republican, he voted, eisenhower was his man. he wasn't so happy when i went to vietnam as an infantrymen. he didn't see the need for me to go. i admired him very much. >> basically, you were broughtt up in a traditional home, and you say that you admire your country. politically, he would say you are left, right? sympathetic to the castro brothers in cuba, bernie sanders supporter, you'd be in thehe left-wing category? >> you could say that. >> okay. when you produce a movie like the "snowden" film, you know that there is a lot of politics just in the film itself. >> yeah. >> what did you want to get across in the movie?st >> i stay away from the politics. i tried to stick to my role as a dramatist, that is what ick do. i did a movie about nixon, i did a movie about bush. in both cases, less so about the assassination, the
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investigation. but nixon, they thought i was too empathetic to him. as with bush, i felt strongly that i was criticized by the left for not makingh it it more demonic. two roles, me as a citizen talking, speaking out to you, and me as a dramatist, telling a story. >> can't you, can you, i should say, as a director, you have a script to work with, obviously, you like the script, in this case, my producer reports, this film is sympathetic to snowden. it is sympathetic. >> empathetic.du >> all right. you know me, i'm not that well educated with words. it makes him look good, right? in totality? >> it is for you to judge. when you see the movie, you come out, it is not trying to lead you, i'm trying to lay out the story that happened. >> surely, you know, there is emotion attached to snowden. how he is portrayed by you, thek director, is going to influence how people here like or don't like the movie. i want to get your reaction by
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the president about snowden. go. >> the way in which these disclosures have been damaging to the united states and damaging to our intelligence capabilities. and i think that there was a way for us to have this conversation without that damage. >> okay. so, not a conservative man, a liberal man. barack obama. how do you react to that? >> he is also said the opposite. he brought up the conversation and the need for reform has to be discussed. he, in fact, endorsed the freedom act, which was passed in 2015, which, although some people criticized it as being too moderate, it was voted on by 200 republicans, more or less, in the house. 35 republicans in the senate. >> i think most americans want more security. at the same time, they don't want individuals like snowden to go out with national security,
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that could cost people's lives. we have seen that on a number of levels. what i would want you to react to president obama, you have to take him on his word that he didn't think that snowden's actions were good for the country. how do you react to that? >> we show in the movie is 2008 election at the promises he made for reform and transparency. part of the problem for snowden was that he didn't give to those words. >> you say obama -- >> he doubled down on the bushn' administration's surveillance, and other forms of warfare he created. >> isn't it possible that the president obama and president bush know more about protecting americans then edward snowden'v does? >> i've heard that ever since i was a young boy. >> you don't believe that? >> i believe governments lie. i think they protect their own interest. >> what is the interest, it seems to me that the interest of electronic surveillance and all of the things that you and snowden dealt with is to protect americans from >> that is what they tell us. >> you don't believe that? >> no, no.
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cyber warfare, we initiated it. we did a global initiative in 2007, we used it against iran secretly. and even, it is still classified, we haven't admitted to it. that virus got out in the world, it went throughor around, went o other countries like jordan. it went on and on. i talked to the guy who saw the virus, took seven, eight months to find out what it was. >> i can't speak to that -- >> we started a new form of o warfare, this is very serious, it has gone on and on and on, now, people are very smart. there is no secret to it, they picked up how to hack us. >> do you believe, though, this is being done, you had some questions about the 9/11 attacks, i remember. >> i was questioning what the nsa and cia were doing to really protect us, as you say. i don't think they did a very good job.b. >> you don't think it's a conspiracy? >> no. i didn't say that. i think they fumbled the ball. >> that puts you on the other side of the issue, then. if you want the protection of agencies, they have to have
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some, a blanket of ability to tap and to look. >> selective targets. >> yes. >> we have plenty of them. but why tap everybody? >> don't tap everybody? there are codes that they use in the nsa to go in. >> i notice you made that pointe they have a database they can go on anybody and find out all they want to know.t, >> you don't think that this country is actively trying to persecute its own people through these devices, do you? >> no, i don't think so.o they do have invasive ability beyond all measure, supported by a technological machine that is incredible. >> we saw that with the russian hackers coming right in. >> we don't know about the russian hackers.ed >> snowden told me they were. no, he didn't, that's a joke. that's a joke.e. >> coming up, ronald reagan and the actor that portrays him, tom matheson, talks about playing the role of our 40th president in "killing reagan."
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>> continuing now with the special edition of "factor." president reagan came into the country with the goal of turning
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our country around after the disastrous presidency of jimmy carter. reagan needed to be strong and determined. what i wrote my book, "killing reagan," i portrayed much of the president's drive. i recently talked with actor tim matheson, who played ronald reagan,mu the 40th president, in a nat geo film, "killing reagan." >> why would i risk losing everything if i can get 75% of what i want? >> the last time i checked, i am in control here. >> so, did you know a lot about ronald reagan when he was in office? >> you know, i was politically minded. i must say, he won me over. he is the only republican i ever voted for. m >> as president? so you are a liberal-minded guy? >> yeah. >> most of hollywood obviously is. some of them are pinheads, some of them aren't. we don't mind if you are liberal, as long as you are a thinking liberal. i am independent. i vote for some democrats if i think they are the best problem solvers. now, what did reagan do to winar you over?ts
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>> reagan was the tonic this country needed at this time, it was such a financial mess, such an emotional mess, just because nixon and all the things, and carter was a lovely man but not a great president. >> you voted for carter. >> i did. i made that mistake. i wouldn't have done it again. i must say, reagan really was the foundation the country needed to pull it together, i was really moved by that. >> you saw how he performed that is what we want, open mindedness. when he was shot, do you remember that? >> i was surprised at how moved and upset i was because it was like your grandfather, you know, and it was like, why? >> you didn't know whether he was going to live. the news reports were almost blacked out. the kid who plays him, just like they killed who played oswald in "killing kennedy," he's a young actor, spooky.i
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>> i got to do something now to make you understand in no uncertain terms that i am doing all of this for your sake. >> being around him, that kept us apart. he kept kyle isolated throughout the whole movie. >> is that right? >> no actors talk to him. >> the real john hinckley is running around william williamsburg, virginia. he is out. >> when you accepted this role to play the president, all right, what was the hardest thing about it? >> not to be trapped by worrying about sounding and moving like reagan. i mean, i have to do that in a part, but i wanted to explore the emotional and the heart of the man. that was the most important thing to me. >> all set? >> i am now. >> did you watch a lot of tape of him?im >> everything i could find. >> you do sound a bit like him. >> it is a bargaining chip and you are just giving it l away. >> i don't see it that way. >> reagan was a very close guy.
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he didn't like to show a lot to anybody. but nancy. you had to connect with the actors who is playing nancy. cynthia nixon. how was that? >> not hard at all. she is wonderful. she is a wonderful actress. she is an intense listener. if i changed the tone or an inflection of a response or a line to her, she pinged and i ponged. she is really remarkable. >> i think you are more nervous than i am. >> that's how it should be. break a leg. >> i think viewers will be surprised because it isn't -- you are not watching cynthia nixon after a while, you are watching nancy reagan. same thing with the president. >> thank you. i think she did an excellent job. it is a less sympathetic role. she was are the bad cop to reags good cop, you know. >> right. >> she gave that to him. she took care of him. if she didn't like the way somebody was treating him or acting around him.
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>> ooh, gone. >> now, when your hollywood pals, your liberal pals, you guys are all sitting around smoking pot, you know, and doing what you did, i am going to do "killing reagan" written by o'reilly, do the crosses come out? did they go like this? tell me the truth. >> i am wearing garlic now, as a matter of fact. >> did you get any jazz? >> not at all. if anybody did, i said, you can't act politics. this is not about politics. >> it's a good story, right? >> it's a great story. >> they are coming at you with too much. are you nervous? >> for you? >> i am crazy if i wasn't. i want to do this. i mean, i can do this. >> you know what, you know him, and have worked with him, tom hanks. and tom, when i told tom i was, doing this, he remarked how wonderful the projects were.,
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he worked on "killing lincoln." >> he was supportive. hanks is a diabolical man. [laughter] what he said, he said, i will show up on "killing lincoln," you will show up "killing reagan" so o'reilly doesn'tow screw it up. that will infiltrate and make sure the project is not some crazy right wing thing. you did a great job. i was pleased when i hired you. i said i don't know. you won me over. i hope you and ms. nixon get nominated for emmys. you really deserve it. >> thank you very much. >> next up, robert f kennedy, jr., his cousin is innocent of murder. he was convicted decades ago. is he not guilty? then, joe namath speaks about head injuries and what happenss to him. >> you had to get out of yourak economic circumstance through sports.
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>> live from america's news headquarters. the manhunt for the turkey nightclub attacker. law enforcement raided an apartment. so far, there is no reports of any arrest. earlier today, a turkish official said they have the gunman's fingerprints. he is suspected of opening fire inside the nightclub on new year's eve, killing 39 people. he managed to slip from the scene by taking advantage of the chaos that ensued. severe weather, including thunderstorms and tornadoes, turning deadly in the south. the storm system, which spawned in texas, bringing heavy flooding to alabama.
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also, knocked out power to more than 80,000 customers in louisiana and mississippi. that's a look at news this hour. i'm kelly wright in washington. back now to "the o'reilly factor." >> justice in america. you may remember the case of michael skakel. convicted of murder, sentenced to 20 years. after serving 11 years in prison, mr. skakel was awarded a new trial. he is part of the kennedy family. his cousin, robert kennedy, jr., has written a new book called "framed, why michael skakel spent over a decade in prison for a murder he did not commit." the book says that he is completely innocent. i don't want to adjudicate the case on television. we don't have time. it's not fair to the prosecution. i do want to get into the fact that the connecticut supreme court will make a decision on whether there is a new trial for michael skakel any time now.
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you have any heads-up on it? >> it could be as long as a year, it could be two weeks. >> you don't know. if they say, no new trial, then, skakel goes back. >> he goes back to prison. he served 11 and a half years, of a 25 to life sentence. if they overrule that, michael goes back to jail, if they uphold it, then the prosecutor has to decide whether to retrial or try the guys that i found who were the real killers. >> what i find fascinating about your book is that you and your cousin weren't exactly friends when this whole thing went down. is that correct? >> we were friends in the early '80s. we were very close. we both got sober at the same time. our friendship deteriorated and we were estranged during his trial. wasn't until this january that we reconciled. i wrote the book, even though michael was not speaking to me, i knew that he was innocent. >> you, from the jump, were on his side and proclaiming his
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innocence. why was he angry with you? >> you know, he went through, as i show in the book, he went through a really difficult life. he was put in this very brutal reform school. he was tortured every day for two years. 11 years of prison. before that, he had a very tough time. so, he has a very acute case of post-traumatic stress syndrome. and when mark fuhrman began attacking him and the path that would later put michael in prison, he thought that the reason he was being attacked was because this association with the kennedy family. as i show on the book, there was no relationship between the kennedys -- >> it was an irrational opinion that he had. he got mad at you. the reason i gave you that blurb that is on the cover of the book is that i admire your loyalty to a man who wasn't real fond of
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you at the time. so, you said, i'm going to put all the personal stuff aside, i don't think most people would have done that. i'm going to try to seek justice. i believe you are trying to seek justice now. whether you are right or wrong, i don't know. i don't know. that is why i say, you should read the book, you should listen to what the prosecution has to say, we will see with the supreme court has to say. your loyalty to the man is very, very unique, i think. >> well, you know, loyalty, and it can cut both ways. a lot of people have accused family members, skakel family members, of being loyal to the extent of covering up a murder, which, none of those skakels has the moral bankruptcy to do that kind of thing. i knew someone who i knew was innocent and it's like, if you witness a mugging on the street, you have to make a choice as to whether or not to get involved or put your head down and keep walking. i saw a guy put in jail for life
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for a crime he did not commit. you know, i felt like i had no choice but to do what i did. >> mr. kennedy, thank you very much for coming in. >> thank you so much. >> plenty more still to come, as a special edition of "factor" continues. how did hollywood portray what was behind the great recession of 2008? >> cologne? >> no. >> opportunity. >> money. >> i will talk with the award winning director of "the big short," adam mckay. if a denture were to be
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>> personal choice segment tonight, hollywood and politics. the movie, "the big short," is about the collapse of thee mortgage and securities section that led to the great recession, in 2008. we are still feeling that today. i spoke with award-winning director adam mckay about the recession and his movie. >> one of my swaps on mortgage, it will pay off, if the underlying bond fails --
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>> you want to bet against them? >> those bonds only fail if millions of americans don't pay their mortgages. that has never happened in history. >> you tried to keep politics out of the movie, i was waiting for the left-wing spin..pof but there was an antigovernment message over all, correct? >> well, you know, we looked at this issue as something that goes beyond right, left wing. it obviously affected everyone, as far as the questions of the government, i mean, what we really question where the areas where the government took a lot of money from the banks. sort of neutered itself as a regulatory body. there were some shots of the government, there was a jump shots of the bank, there was a corrupt system. >> there is no doubt about that. you made the point very vividly and explained as well during the film. >> did m you hear? mortgage defaults have gone through the roof. is anybody jumping off of
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buildings yet? >> why would they, sub prime mortgage is up. w >> he is asking us to post collateral. >> what the hell is going on? >> i don't know. >> he's demanding payment. >> you are a liberal guy, right? >> l i guess, technically, you would call me a liberal guy, although, i am just against corruption, against our government being bought and paid for. >> a lot of americans are distrustful of the federal government and they are also distrustful of left-wing, right-wing, depending on where you are. there really isn't any trust at all in the country right now, is there? >> i have always thought the answer is really simple.nt if you have a representative and they are taking a lot of moneylw from the banks or oil companies or billionaires, don't vote fort them. they are taking that money, you know for fact, they will vote in support of those people. >> you make a point in the "the big short" that the folks had to bail out those big broker guys that made the court deal, which is true. >> what is that? >> cologne? >> no.
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>> opportunity. >> no. money. i smell money. >> one of the movies of yours that you made that i like best is "anchorman," because i saw myself as the main character, will ferrell ripped me off, i have a much better physique than he does. >> watch out for the guns.e they'll get you. >> what were you trying to get across here? o those movies really did well. >> i think most of all, will and i love to laugh. they are clearly silly, absurdist comedies. i think it was also a little bit of a poke at how ratings-driven the news has become, how profit-driven it has become. >> what you are about to see is a channel 4 news his name is nutty the squirrel . >> how about that? [laughs] >> that's hilarious. >> most of all, we wanted to make people laugh. we were poking fun at the perfect hairdos of the anchors and the perfect ties. but yeah, it is definitely
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a comedy with a little bit of a jab at the for-profit news.. >> the shallow news people. >> he had a voice that could make a wolverin purr. and suits so fine they make sinatra look like a hobo. >> i told you, i should have >> i told you, i should have done a cameo. i know will ferrell is a big "factor" fan. he texts me all the time, bill, i love the "talking point," i love the "tip of the day." the next time you are making "anchorman 3" i expect to be on that set. mr. mckay, if you want to shallow, here i am. i am the shoals. >> god bless you, sir. we appreciate it and you will be called the next time. >> thank you. >> when we get back, football icon joe namath talks about the danger of head injuriesbe in the game. >> i did get checked because i knew i had at least five concussions. i had a lot of sales that weren't working in the temporal area and the side of my brain. >> back in a moment.
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>> i am bill o'reilly. the second personal segment story. head injuries in the national football league. football legend joe namath has
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had a couple of himself, but through treatment with hyperbaric chamber therapy, he feels today like a new man. we spoke with him about that as well as his prestigious career. >> i am a big jets fan, i lived right near where you guys trained at hofstra on long island. back then, it seems to me, that it was much more dangerous to be a quarterback than it is today. >> bill, it was. anyone that was inda the hole or the pocket was going to get hurt because we didn't have the kind of protection may have today. the game has improved in that category. i think we are trying to protect all of the players more so thana yesteryear. >> it's big money with these quarterbacks. back then, guys like ben davidson, they wanted to rip your head off and kill you, am i wrong? >> god rest his soul, he had the al davis had the theory with the oakland raiders and didn't mind talking about it. >> they smash you as hard as they could smash you, then, they say something nasty to you. >> what they said to us, we said right back, some of them talked about their own, too. yout their own, too. are 72 years old now, injuries
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to you throughout your whole life. ken stabler, who volunteered alabama, his family just announced that he had brain disease, that he got hit in the head so many times. you seem, your mental facultiess seem to be intact. >> i did go get checked because i knew i had at least five concussions. this was 2012, i started. >> so, you have a little bit of damage but not enough to impair you? >> i had a lot of a sales that weren't working in the temporal area on the left side of my brain that are not functioning -- now functioning because of the treatment i took. >> you had to get out of your economic circumstance through sports. i mean, you had to play.f if you wanted to leave beaver falls, pennsylvania and go to college and all of that. so, you paid a price but the price was worth it, was it? >> to me, it was worth it. to this stage, it was worth it. there are those fellows that i played with that i questioned, is it worth it to them. >> now, you were loved and hated.
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especially, because you are a little flamboyant, i would say, right? >> you know what, you don't like to be told you can't do something, and we all like to stand out a little bit. >> doing this can make my legs look good, imagine what they will do for yours. >> you were broadway joe and you are cocky and i have to confess, when i played, i wore white shoes like you. my question is, today, cam newton is now being charged as a hot shot because he does a little dance in the end zone, which i enjoy. but you went through this. >> when it comes to sport, winning is the answer. if you are going out and carrying on, showboating, dancing around, you are not winning, your teammates will knock you down. they are not going to put up with that. >> was there racism in football when you were there? you played with a lot of great black players. a lot of -- was there racism? >> yeah, there has always been racism.. there is racism then and there
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is racism today, and we both know that it is not the right way to live. hatred and anger is not healthy. but we have come a long way.y. >> but you and i don't know to people know this, but namath stuck up for the black players. >> my parents side of the -- taught us that as a family. most of the people to this day, they carry a chip on their shoulder whenever they aren starting to judge people byul their color, by their walk, whatever, ethnicity, that is ingrained from home to start with. >> you had worked out, like now, they are just workout warriors, these guys are around, to put it politely, you didn't really work out that much, other than your elbow coming up to your mouth on certain occasions. >> some other kinds of things, too. >> that work out is also controversial. my question is, if you had worked out, if you had been like they are now, these guys are unbelievable, the machines. would that have helped physically, do you think? >> i know it would've helped,
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sure. that is one of the major steps forward today with the sports. the nutrition aspect alone.. so, yes, today's methods are much better and they should be. >> did you ever think that if you had been a workout warrior and not been broadway joe -- [laughs] you threw more than 4000 yards in a season, you were out until like six in the morning, you go from the party to the game, i mean, it's amazing what you did. >> we did all right. [laughter] i would change my ways. knowing today what i know, i would change my ways. >> are you sure? [laughs] joe namath, thank you for coming in. >> thank you, bill. >> next up, beach boys legend mike love talks about drugs, charles manson, and overcoming all of it to become one of america's greatest bands ever. a ♪
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♪ >> in the book segment tonight, the legendary pop group, the beach boys, over the years, they have had more top 40 hits than any other american group in history. the beach boys still tour and the lead singer, mike love, has written a new book called "good vibrations," that chronicles what happened to the band. some of it is surprising. >> so, first of all, i'm a big beach boys fan, have been since i was six years old. that is how much older you are then me. >> [laughs] >> when i read your book, though, there were a lot of things that i didn't know about the band that you write about. the first one i want to get into is, it seems like every singlele american rock band was destroyed by drugs. and the beach boys, no exception. brian wilson got heavily into drugs, and so did all the other members, some of it was heroin. big time drugs. why does that happen? >> you know, back in the '60s, marijuana was no big thing. but then, along comes lsd.
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and that really messed t some peoples brains up. >> did you ever take lsd? >> no. absolutely not. >> your cousin, brian wilson, did.ou >> and dennis and carl. >> did that change them? >> my cousin said, once he took lsd, he heard voices saying derogatory things to him since he took lsd. in that specific situation, it didn't do brian any favors. >> you started off as clean-cut kids from hawthorne, california, making a great new sound. ♪ and then, all of a sudden, a few years later, you are dropping balls. and then, along the line, you got to meet all the big rock icons. you tell the story about meeting the beatles in the book. did you get along with those guys? >> beautifully. harrison and i both had our birthdays in 1968 and george passed away, i was feeling very melancholy about it because he is such a good person. paul mccartney came to the
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breakfast table one morning playing, listenig to this, mike- >> "back in the ussr." why do you think they were so successful? did you ever think about that? >> they were brilliant at marketing and promotion. "sergeant pepper's" album cover was brilliant. our cover of "pet sounds" was photographed at"s the san diego zoo.graphed at"s the san diego [laughs] >> you have to give it to the beatles. any phenomenon, i think the beach boys are probably the best american group ever. you, in your book, get kindre of dark, and the darkest part, dennis wilson gets involved with charles manson. you first heard about that, did you have any idea how bad this manson was? >> oh, no. nobody did. we knew he was weird. dennis comes home from a tour we had been on, and charlie and the girls were living at his house. >> they moved into dennis wilson's house? >> they moved in.
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and they took cars, clothing, anything that wasn't nailed down. >> did dennis wilson think he was strange? >> well, let's put it this way. why are you so upset today, dennis. i was out at the ranch, i saw charlie taking m-16 rifle and throw a black cat, meaning an african-american guy, a black cat in half and stuff him down a well at the ranch. >> he killed a guy? b >> yes. >> did you believe that story? >> that is what i was told by dennis. >> the other chilling part is susan atkins, one of the manson killers, babysat your kids. >> yeah, that's right. >> you didn't know at the time that susan atkins was a killer. >> no, no, no. that all became revealed after. >> did it ever occur to you, when you were a 21, 22-year-old guy, coming up with this band, and you are making a lot of people happy, that at 75, you would be saying the words -op ♪ >> actually, bill, no.
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[laughter] ♪ >> you are 75 years old, what did you do, 175 shows? >> 172. >> i am sorry. >> i was saying 175, 175 shows that the beach boys did in 2016. why did you do it? >> you are a beach boys fan. you see the audience response. >> yeah. ♪ >> because they are happy, that makes you happy and that is why you did it? >> yeah, i was one of the co-creators of the music, to see the kind of response and how much happiness is generated in an evening's performance is a wonderful thing. ♪ >> mike love, everybody, the book is "good vibrations." >> thank you, bill. >> that is it for us tonight. i want to thank you for watching the special edition of "factor""
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i am bill o'reilly. please, always remember that the spin stops here. we are definitely looking out for you. ♪ >> a revolution is underway. it stands at the crossroads and the question tonight, how will the historic events of 2016 affect the next 12 months of our american story? good evening. welcome to "the kelly file." i am sandra smith in for megyn kelly.od weighing the impact of the new hollywood film on benghazi and still reeling from the terror attack that left 14 dead and 22 injured in san bernardino, california, we had no way to know that domestic terror would remain a constant for the coming year, that protest against police turn deadly for some of those officers, or that the republicanur


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