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"special report" is next. >> bret: obamacare on life support. what's next? the president president and the vice president elect pitch their parties on capitol hill. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i am bret baier. vice president elect mike pence promised lawmakers that dismantling obamacare will be the first order of business when donald trump takes office 16 days from now. president obama is not going out without a fight. both the president and vice president elect were on capitol hill today, meeting their respective parties and gearing up for what surely will be a contentious fight in congress on this issue. we have fox team coverage.
kevin corke is at the white house with the president's call to action that lacked specifics for democrats pushbac pushback. chief washington correspondent james rosen also from the white house with a look at obamacare's controversial journey. we begin with mike emanuel on capitol hill where the vice president elect late out the new administration's plans to do away with this law. >> good evening. vice president elect mike pence told republicans they are all on one team. starting january 20th, inauguration day, they will have a new coach, and they intend to hit the ground running. >> the first order of business is to repeal and replace obamacare. >> vice president elect pens was on capitol hill for the first full work day of the 115th congress and tweaked it a photo of his meeting with house republicans. his goal was firing up the g.o.p. about moving forward on new agenda. >> we are 16 days away from the end of business as usual in washington, d.c. today our message is very
simple. working with the leadership here in the house and in the senate. were going to be in the promise keeping business. >> as pens was -- sp eight was heading to capitol hill, obama cares the 116% hike in arizona. deductibles are so high that it's practically useless. don't let the schumer clowns out of the web. massive increases will take place this year and dams are to blame for the mess. chuck schumer, the senate leader -- democrat leader fired back. >> republicans will learn that you can't keep the good parts of the aca and remove the rest of the law and still have it work. >> pence said he echoed mr. trump's social media message behind closed doors. >> it's important that we remind
the american people if they already know about obamacare. the promises that were made were all broken. >> paul ryan said while repeal of the signature law would come swiftly, lawmakers will be careful to make sure consumers aren't hurt. >> we want to make sure that as we give relief to people, we do it in a transition that doesn't pull the rug out from anybody. that's the point we are all trying to make. >> republicans leaders called for a transition, what comes next is unclear. some g.o.p. members are proposing a simultaneous repeal and replace. others are suggesting a lengthy process of two to four years. pence was asked what happens if replacing the law gets messy. >> the american people know who owns obamacare. >> lawmakers are hoping to have the obamacare repeal on president trump's desk by the
20th. >> bret: mike emanuel come alive on the hill. despite the fact that republicans will soon control both chambers of congress and the white house, president obama wants to make sure his party does not let his signature health care law go down without a serious fight. kevin corke reports from the white house on the presidents nonspecific but impassioned push to hold on to his legacy domestic policy achievement. >> less than three weeks before he begins a long and reflective walk into history, president obama left a message for the congressional democrats he will leave behind. >> look out for the american people. >> as in, continue the fight for his signature legislation, obamacare. mr. obama's comments following a rare trip to capitol hill for a closed-door meeting with house and senate democrats. >> the president articulated the importance of preserving the affordable care act, medicare, and medicaid as only he can.
it was an inspiring meeting for all of us. >> he said he envies us because he would like to be still in office, to some degree, to fight with us. >> the president's message was one of confidence, confidence in the affordable care act and what it means and does for people. confidence in its implementation. >> from creating national monuments in utah and nevada to banning offshore oil drilling in the arctic, deleting the data pass of muslim men at the department of homeland security. critics suggest the trip to the hill to pitch the merits of obamacare was little more than yet another push to preserve his legacy. one democrats, joe manchin, wanted no part of it. >> i thought it would be counterproductive for me to sit there. why can't we come together? why can't he invite both sides? >> i hope he comes here to apologize for the broken promises. i don't think that's going to be the case.
i think he is here more concerned about preserving his legacy that about fulfilling those promises. >> white house officials admit mr. obama is concerned about the prospects of seeing much of his agenda come undone. they are holding out hope that democrats who serve after he's gone will stand up to the g.o.p. >> the people who are in the best position to prevent that from happening, congressional democrats unified around the idea that those things are worth fighting for. >> a battle ahead at a time when most presidents quietly walk off the national stage. >> keyword there, most presidents are expected to sort of walk away quietly. not this one, apparently. we can tell you that while they white house acknowledges the president may remain engaged behind the scenes, we also learned that vice president joe biden will have posts that the university of pennsylvania and use of university of
delaware. >> bret: kevin corke live on the north lawn. thank you. president obama will stay here in washington, d.c. now some perspectives. and a look back. the term obamacare began as one of derision, but the man whose name it carries eventually came to embrace it with gusto. as our chief washington correspondent james james rosen reports. just about everything associated with the president's signature domestic policy has been shrouded in controversy from the very beginning. >> it was the defining promise of barack obama's presidency. >> if you like the plan you have, you can keep it. >> affordable care act, the president's most contentious domestic initiative. at town halls, critics vented their anger, in part stirred by the tea party movement. >> strike it down. >> which arose to oppose what it
called socialized medicine. even a bipartisan brainstorming session saw the president abraded its components. >> we are not campaigning. >> to cover the 44 million americans who lack health insurance, the measure expanded medicaid subsidies, offered online exchanges embraced by 39 states. find noncompliant employers and penalized uninsured people. the measure allow children to remain on parents plans through age 26 and banned insurers from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing conditions. when republicans mustered 41 votes against obamacare, the democrats employed the parliamentary tactic of reconciliation, requiring only 51 votes for passage. >> we don't know exactly what's in the bill. >> by the time the vote has taken place, not only i will know what's in it, you will know what's in it. >> the house speaker reverse that. >> find out what his image.
>> obamacare passed with no republican support and was signed into law in march 2010. as its provisions took effect, the online exchanges suffered glitches. an estimated 4 million people lost their plans, if violations of the president's promise for which he begrudgingly apologized. >> and, you know, that's on me. >> more than 20 million americans have received coverage under the law. >> for the first time in our history, more than 90% of americans are insured. >> it has been dogged by problems. >> people are busting it 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled in their coverage cut in half. it's the craziest thing in the world. >> regardless of how the effort to repeal and replace obamacare goes, it will go down in history as one of the most ambitious white house projects of the postwar era. if it is discarded by the trump administration, it will also go down as one of the shortest lived. >> the president-elect says he suspending judgment until friday
over whether russia really was behind the hacks of the democratic party. clinton officials. friday is one present electron but is expected to receive a briefing by leaders of the intelligence committee about what they know. the cia director is not waiting until then to say he has proof russia is to blame. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has our report. >> he's not exactly a bastion of truth and integrity. >> cia director john brennan cast doubt on the credibility of wikileaks founder julian assange, who told fox news the russian government was not his source for the dnc and clinton campaign emails. >> i wouldn't ascribe to any of these individuals for making comments for providing the hole, unvarnished truth. this report is going to include what it is we know about what happened, what was collected, disclosed. stickel pressed on the intent,
which usually requires intelligence from human spying or intercepted phone call, brennan promised specifics. >> do you think the motive of the russians is to help donald trump? >> it will be addressed in the report. i'm not going to address it in advance of the release. >> worked with bradley manning to release classified documents, endangering sources and methods. >> intelligence is not just words on paper. >> at the time, donald trump told brian kilmeade the leaks were un-american. >> i think it's a disgrace. >> and the new fox interview broadcast tuesday, assange claimed the hacking of john podesta's emails was child's play. >> he gave out that his password was the word "password." his own staff said this email that you've received, this is
totally legitimate. this is something a 14-year-old kid could have hacked. >> mr. trump picked up assange's charge thing the democrats were careless and to blame. the vice president-elect defended his boss. >> given some of the intelligence failures of recent years, the president-elect has made it clear to the american people that he's skeptical about conclusions. i think the american people hear him. >> the republican house speaker told a radio show he has no opinion of assange. >> i think the guy is a sycophant for russia. he leaks, steals data and compromises national security. >> fox news has been told the report is virtually complete and president obama could be briefed tomorrow, the same day james clapper and mike rogers will testify to the senate about
foreign cyber threats to the u.s. >> bret: thank you. do you think president-elect trump is right to side with julian assange over the intelligence community about russia and the hacks? or at least express skepticism? let me know on twitter. use the hashtag #specialreport #specialreport. we may use your comments later. president obama asked for a seamless transition to the next president at his last meeting with his top military leaders today. the commander-in-chief said he's doing everything possible to ensure that donald trump benefits from the advice of his current military brass. he cited the ongoing fight against isis in iraq and syria as conflicts the next president will inherit. president obama was honored for his service where he reflected on his tenure in front of a sparse crowd. >> we live free under the red,
white, and blue because of patriots like you. it has been a privilege of a lifetime to serve with you. >> bret: at the u.s. and its allies are doubling military advisors helping battle isis in muzzle. the forces are moving in and out of the city. the advisors are not operating on the front lines there. four gitmo detainees are slated to be transferred to saudi arabia the next 24 hours. u.s. officials are telling fox news that president-elect trump strongly opposes any more transfers off the base. senior pentagon officials saying until trump's president the transfers will go on as scheduled. candidate donald trump held his last formal press conference 161
days ago. since then, the president-elect has sent nearly 1300 tweets weighing in on everything from nuclear arms to who may be performing at his inauguration. peter doocy reports from new york on the latest news coming out of trump tower. >> the inauguration is inching closer and closer but the president-elect still doesn't think people get him. he tweeted today about a 16-year-old singer set to start his ceremony with the national anthem by saying "the album sales have skyrocketed after announcing her inauguration performance. some people just don't understand the movement." mr. trump is using twitter that we will see headlines about additional companies doing what ford did, investing in the stat state. >> thank you to ford for scrapping a plant in mexico and creating 700 new jobs in the u.s. this is just the beginning. more to follow." a big part of the economic plan is cutting red tape. he's going to need someone to
make sure companies are following the rules. he picked jay clayton to run the securities and exchange commission. his pick to become the next secretary of state is working ahead of next week's hearings eliminate any conflicts of interest with exxonmobil. rex tillerson is in line to get $180 million from the oil giant as a retirement package, money that would go into a trust that would not be allowed to invest back in exxon stock. two other picks to administration jobs. liberal groups accusing steven mnuchin of profiting off the foreclosure crisis. >> vote no. >> and ncaa -- ncaa half a dozen people were arrested, including the group's president.
chuck schumer is outlining his plan of attack against senator sessions, 1 of 8 nominees he wants to slow down on their way to the cabinet room. >> and attorney general who is so anti-immigration. >> that president-elect has expressed little faith in the intelligence community. a few minutes ago, a senior transition source texted to confirm that a leading contender to come in and clean things up as the next director of national is former indiana senator dan coats. sources tower colleague that mike pence is pushing the indiana connection. >> peter doocy outside trump tower. turkey's foreign minister says they know the suspect behind the new year's eve nightclub attack that killed 39 people in his temple -- istanbul they have not
named him publicly. they have detained 20 suspects, including 11 women who were believed to have lived with the terrorist. isis claimed responsibility with the suspect is still on the loose. police and istanbul have set up checkpoints. israel's prime minister is calling for the pardon of an israeli soldier convicted of manslaughter. benjamin netanyahu's request for a pardon plunges him into a political debate that has divided the country over this case and puts him at odds with the israeli military. israel's president has the authority issue a pardon but he said he will wait for the legal process to run its course before making a decision. up next, a closer look at some of the conservative credentials of president-elect trump's picks to fill the vacant seat on the u.s. a dream court. first, here is some of what our affiliates are covering. fox 13 in seattle. officials have confirmed nine flu-related deaths in washington three weeks into the flu season. the state health department says
cases are at epidemic levels and widespread. doctors seen this bike and flu cases are urging everyone to get a flu shot. fox 35 in orlando. rick scott wants nearly $6 million to hire more state agents dedicated to counterterrorism efforts. the governor's request follows last year's terror attack on the pulse nightclub that left 49 people dead. this is a live look at new york from our affiliate fox 5. a train derailment during this morning's rush hour that injured more than 100 people. investigators say a long island railroad train hit the bumping block as it came into the brooklyn station. new york's governor said the most significant injury with a possible broken leg. the cause of the crash is under investigation, one of several in the region in recent months. that is tonight's live look outside the b b b b b
>> bret: senate minority leader chuck schumer promises a fight over president-elect donald trump's pick for the u.s. supreme court vacancy. even before he has a chance to try to block any potential nominee, some pro-life leaders are raising their own concerns over some of the conservative credentials on the president-elect's list so far. shannon bream joins us live for a look at their records. >> the new senate minority leader is not going to take it easy on the president-elect's supreme court nominee once we find out who that will be. schumer says the g.o.p. basically stole the supreme court seat left vacant by the death of justice antonin scalia. sounds like things could get
complicated on capitol hill. >> it's hard for me to imagine a nominee that donald trump would choose that would get republican support that we could support. you are right. >> you would do your best to hold the seat open? >> absolutely. >> i think that is something the american people since they will not tolerate. we look forward to receiving a nomination and moving forward. >> it's not surprising the left would question the eventual nominee but there are growing concerns from some on the right as well. a coalition of pro-life groups and leaders sent a letter saying they are worried about some of the candidates on the list of 21 potential picks mr. trump has released. "we urge you to consider, not consider candidates lacking a pro-life record. several of these charges have written or spoken in ways that are at odds with the pro-life position." the transition team says not to worry. all are being thoroughly vetted. >> the president is working very
hard to get this right and these are people who have very deep records. they have to be analyzed carefully and lots of cases have to be ready. there is no one particular statement or comment by any of these prospective nominees that can be viewed in isolation. >> first liberty institute has been pouring through all of the opinions of the charges on mr. trump's list and says there's a way to calm conservative fears. >> there are many other excellent judges on the list that have no red flags. in fact, a solid judicial background that would make excellent choices at the u.s. supreme court. >> it will take 60 votes in the senate to get any nominee passed, the first procedural hurdle. unless something changes, republicans will need some help from across the aisle. >> bret: thank you. the sentencing phase began today for the man convicted of killing nine black church members in south carolina. the convicted killer did not ask jurors to spare his life from
the death penalty. jonathan serrie reports from charleston on day one in court. >> in his opening statement, dylan rules made no mention of his crime or motives. instead, the defendant calmly and quietly told jurors he chose to act as his own attorney. ruth insisted "there is nothing wrong with me psychologically. the same jurors who convicted roof in the massacre at charleston's historically black church may decide whether he should spend the rest of his life in prison or face execution. prosecutor nathan williams argued for the latter, citing the racist motives and lack of remorse. williams read from a statement found in this cell after the crimes. he states i do not regret what i do. i'm not sorry. i have not shed a tear for the innocent people i killed. i do feel sorry for the innocent white children forced to live in this sick country.
prosecutors have been calling on relatives to describe the emotional pain that dylann roof inflicted on their families and community. >> there is no room for him in a civilized society. >> malcolm graham plans to testify about his sister, a dedicated library and active church member. he tells fox news some crimes are so heinous the only logical penalty is death. >> my sister and eight others died because they were there and they were black. that cannot stand in a civilized society. that has to be punished. >> the hearing is expected to go into next week with prosecutors calling on as many as 38 witnesses. dylann roof says he intends to call no witnesses and present no evidence. however, he does plan on making a closing argument.
>> bret: jonathan serrie. crime in new york city is down according to data released today. that big apple had its fewest number of shootings last year and narrowly missed a record low for homicides. overall crime was at its lowest. the city's police commissioner says the numbers are a result of strategies and increased work with communities. democrats in california say they will challenge the incoming trump administration on everything from immigration to the environment. state legislators say head -- have hired a former attorney general to help them do that. william la jeunesse from los angeles on the man they have picked to lead their front. >> california will launch its own damn satellites. >> california is preparing for battle, hiring eric holder to challenge the new administration.
>> it's up to us in this body to pass policies that would firewall californians and what we believe from the cynical, shortsighted and reactionary agenda that is rising in the wake of this election. >> from education to climate change, the state hopes to stop or stall trump's policy reforms. >> we have the laws, tools of enforcement, and political will. we will set the stage, set the example. whatever washington thinks they are doing, california is the future. >> by hiring holder, it is like they are firing a shot across the bow of the trump administration's new liner. >> former justice department lawyer wrote a book about holder, the only cabinet member to be held in contempt of congress. >> it's going to cost them a lot of money to try to fight the federal government on immigration enforcement in sanctuary cities. they are going to lose.
>> with 38% of federal judgeships filled by obama appointees, california offers other states and special interests a platform to sue. state lawmakers say they will pay holder $25,000 a month to be a thorn in trump's side. texas filed 47 lawsuits. 18 are still pending. the first battleground likely immigration as defiant state democrats offer 80 million taxpayer dollars to protect 2.3 million illegal immigrants from deportation, an approach endorsed by the l.a. mayor. >> and people work under the table, that depresses wages, fewer business starts. >> holder said he's honored to serve as a legal advisor. >> bret: thank you.
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one of confidence, confidence in the affordable care act, confidence in the humility we have to listen to other ideas, if they have. replace something that works, that gets results. we shouldn't be opposed to that greatest >> bret: president obama meeting with democrats. vice president elect penn's meeting with republicans. if you look at this map from usa today, it shows the premium rate increases around the country and you can see there are some above 50%. and a lot of them in the 30 to 50% shading. that doesn't even include the deductibles people are dealing with in their health care situation. this comes as the president-elect made clear his feelings on this battle. republicans must be careful. the dems owned the disaster with its poor coverage and massive premium increases. the one-third 16% hike in
arizona. deductibles are so high it's practically useless. don't let the schumer clowns out of the web. massive increases will take place this year and dems are to blame. it will fall on its own weight. be careful as the warning on twitter. a lot of people ask why do you read those tweets? that's the way he's communicating. so we are reading what is coming out. let's bring in charles hurt, political columnist for the times. mercedes schlapp, david cantonese jonah, seemed like the president said you guys need to stop this. when it came to how, what are they going to do, there was not a lot there. >> you can mark it as a 2017 miracle. i agree entirely with something donald trump tweeted. i think he's absolutely right. this is a difficult position the republicans are in. part because a lot of obamacare
passed with 60 votes. you can't get rid of those parts to reconciliation. they talk about how this is going to be, the press is irresponsible and a lot of the talk about repeal. you can't keep the popular parts of obamacare and still call it repeal. it is something else. lastly, because of obamacare's own internal flaws, it's sort of like a suicidal dying patient. the republicans are leaping into be the doctor of record for the patient, and that's a political problem for them. they can make it dive faster but they can't save it and they can't get a replacement for it very soon. >> bret: are the democrats saying you hold the old maid card? >> it's incredible. you saw a new frame of obamacare presented today. the democrats are saying, they are labeling it trump care. they were are saying that trump care will make you sick.
the bottom line is that leadership is going to have to come more than by tweets from the president-elect. president obama got through the original reform. they argued over the public option, we don't know what president-elect trump wants in that. he's the only person that can unify the republican party. 100 ideas, not comprehensive. it has to come from trump, from the white house. >> bret: we should take a moment. it's the republican's ball. the onus is on them. they have both chambers of congress and the white house. the president said, he started his time in office saying 36 times if you like the plan you have, you can keep it. now he's ending his time in office defending the plan that's falling apart. >> president obama is trying to save his legacy. he is telling the democrats stand your ground and he's also saying he's taking responsibility for the fact that
they didn't communicate. they didn't message it correctly. this is not a messaging problem. this is a failed policy problem. you have obamacare, tax increases, premium hikes. one in five consumers who now only have access to a single insurer. the majority of americans are not happy. they disapprove of obamacare. this is the opportunity for republicans to take hold of this process. the problem is is if there's one lesson the republicans should learn it's the fact that obama pushed obamacare. only with democrats. it was not a bipartisan effort. it would be wise for the republicans to bring the democrats along. >> one of the biggest misnomer's of all this is when people say -- democrats admit obamacare is not working. it's working as they intended. what it means is a lot of people who work are going to face huge premium increases to pay for people who previously didn't have health care.
it is actually working the way it was designed to work. >> they were supposed to win the white house and change it into a bigger system. >> right. as mercedes says, this is the problem i thought james rosen had the most important quote. president obama is meeting outside the white house. he said we are not campaigning anymore. the election is over. as if, you know, campaigns are just politics where we say stuff that doesn't mean anything. this is a knife fight and we are pushing our agenda. i do think, whether you call it health care reform whatever, getting buy-in from democrats, while that meet in comforter -- the uncomfortable, it's probably not a bad thing. trump is probably uniquely qualified to try to do that. >> bret: here is paul ryan on people potentially losing insurance. >> we have been saying we don't
want to pull the rug out while we are replacing the law. we don't want people to be caught with nothing. want to make sure there's an orderly transition. >> bret: according to hhs, they've had 20 million people gaining health insurance since the law passed in 2010 to early 2016. 4.7 million had individual policies canceled in 2013 because they didn't measure up. one in five consumers only has one insurer. you go through this list, and it's pretty horrific. it seems like the challenge will be how do you get from point a to point b. >> i think the easiest part of the task in terms of messaging is that most of the people are on medicare and they are going to stay on that. might have to tell them that may not be true couple years for now but it's fairly safe. the question is what you tell the people who have been jerked around by those clowns in
washington for six years in terms of their private, you know, market plans, all these other things, employer plans. kicked off this, kicked off that. republicans got it and they were supposed to have a solution and instead that process just accelerates for a while longer. sometimes firemen show up on the scene and they left the building burned to the ground and then you build new. i don't know that they have to do repeal on day one. there is room for trump to come up with a solution and taking ownership of this, if that's the risk, it's tough. >> they have crossing state lines, opening up their markets, health savings accounts where they have a lot of things but they don't have one thing. to go there is already disagreement about whether to keep the taxes and place among republicans. you guys are focused on the democrats. republicans aren't unified on how to approach this. i talked to a senate leadership aide who said mike pence told us he wants legislation by february
20th. given everything else that's going to suck up the new cycle, confirmation hearings, supreme court picked, are republicans going to be able to do this with repeal? that's a daunting task. this code consumed the first 100 days if not beyond. you've got to ask the question, does he have the discipline to stay focused on this through march, april, if it takes that long? i think this is going to be a herculean task. >> hhs cabinet nominee tom price has a plan. he pushed forward the idea of the fixed tax credits, expanding the health savings account, ensuring you can have a competition across state lines. there is a platform, framework. there is a sense of disagreement and republican leadership will be key in working with trump to push forward something that would be acceptable to not only the moderate republicans but
conservative republicans who want to phase-in, phase out quickly, into years, as opposed to three to four years. >> it will be a big battle. supreme court, one of the biggest things obamacare was the supreme court ruling. you have an open vacancy and you have the senate minority leader leaders think they are going to fight tooth and nail if the person that the president-elect puts forward. take a listen to chuck schumer. >> hard for me to imagine a nominee that donald trump would choose that would get republican support that we could supports. >> you would do your best to hold the seat "mexico absolutely. we are initiating a letter, hopefully signed by democrats and republicans. this letter says to mitch mcconnell do your job. hold the hearings. >> fill the seat, get merrick
garland in. now he is saying we may try to hold it open. >> fairplay in politics. i think donald trump has talked republicans one thing that i think is very good and that is how to fight and take these issues. i think the supreme court is a perfect example where republicans have adopted the democratic notion that it's okay to twist the constitution anywhere you want to without constitutional amendments. to go back to that original fight and have that fight in public, i think republicans can win it and i think donald trump will be a good spokesman for that fight. >> can democrats continue to fight on every issue? on every nominee, everything? >> no. chuck schumer trying to get the base fired up. he can't keep all these promises. they are in the minority. they are in a bigger hole in the house. they don't have the presidency.
schumer helped kill the nuclear option. i think this was the democratic base, donors out there who are still upset about this election saying we are going to fight. we can do the fact-check in three months and seem much he lives up to his word. >> we invited the senate minority leader here on "special report." next up, a fact-check on julian assange in the back and forth
individuals for making comments that it is providing the hole, unvarnished truth. >> can you tell the american people 1,000 present you did not get it from russia or anybody associated with russia? >> we can say, we've said repeatedly over the last two months that our source is not the russian government and it is not a state party. >> i hope the president-elect will get his information and trust the american patriots who work in the intelligence community who swear an oath and allegiance to the constitution and not some guy hiding from the law was a record of undercutting and undermining american democracy. >> bret: the fight over intelligence, as the president-elect gets ready for the intelligence briefing on friday and leaders of the intelligence community pushing back against some of his tweets. donald trump tweeting, julian assange says a 14-year-old could have hacked podesta.
also says russians did not give him the info. also retweets, it's very dishonest, more dishonest than anyone knows. we are back to the panel. it seems clear, mercedes, that the intelligence community is saying listen. wait until you hear before you go after us. what about this public back-and-forth? >> i don't like it. one of the problems with the intelligence community is the fact they've gone so public, especially around this election time, post election in pushing forward the theory that the russians have hacked and have basically said trump has been -- i spoke to a former national security advisor, part of the team that basically said this is not normal. this is not at the intelligence community should be doing. they should not be going public with this information. i think what you're going to find is that there's a chance trump will hear the word circumstantial evidence, and
he's going to need to make his own judgment. trump going public with this as well, i don't think it's favorable. >> it's important to point out the history of julian assange. this is a times london report on the wikileaks dangers. hundreds of afghan lives been put at risk by leaking intelligence documents. the times found the names of dozens of afghans credited to providing detailed intelligence to u.s. forces. back in 2010, donald trump ca problematic. other people went further and said he should be taken up on charges. >> i agree with 2010 donald trump. i think that a lot of things can be true. the wikileaks documents can be truthful. i think we know that they are
true. why ruin such a great platform by discrediting it with false information? it can also be true that propaganda is true. there's nothing in the definition of propaganda that says it's untrue. julian assange is an anti-american radical who detest this country, has said so explicitly and implicitly for years. doesn't mind that he's responsible for the deaths of western allies. the rush by conservatives who moments ago were talking about what a terrible human being he is, simply because it fits the narrative for the trump administration is outrageous. it's not true, by the way, technically possible a 14-year-old could have hacked this but it's absolutely true that a 14-year-old did not hack this. the phishing app they used to get john podesta was a classic piece of major intelligence gathering mostly used by foreign governments. not used by 14-year-olds or fat
guys on their bed. >> getting a lot of pushback inside the intelligence community. there are a lot of people who say the intelligence community has been wrong before. donald trump is right to be skeptical and he should push and wait until he gets all the details. i guess it just feels like, for some of these nonpartisan intel folks, that they are caught in the middle. >> sure, they are. it kind of reminds me a little bit of the people who are upset about the fbi, comey being involved in the hillary clinton election. it's like well, if you don't want the fbi inserting itself into the election, don't nominate somebody who is being investigated by the fbi. i can't disagree with what you all are saying about julian assange except that if he were avery reporter -- a reporter and didn't hate the country, he would just be a reporter. he would be celebrated. i do think it's a good thing i
think for the president-elect to have this healthy skepticism about the intel. they have gotten things wrong. weapons of mass destruction was not a slam dunk in iraq. isis was not a jv team. all of that came from intelligence sources. i think everybody should sort of calm down a little bit. wait and see what happens. let him get the briefings. >> bret: we just heard that they report is done. he will be -- the president will be briefed tomorrow. the intelligence officials will go to the president-elect on friday. >> this is going to be the fault line where trump could get into real trouble with his own party. john mccain is holding a hearing tomorrow morning about this topic. he's going to have james clapper, director of national intelligence, in front of him. i'm sure donald trump is going to see it, not like it. maybe tweet about it.
then you've got him going into this private briefing on friday, and i think trump has to be really careful. these are republican hawks that are going to be against him that he needs for his confirmation. mccain signaled today probably not going to be voting for tillerson. if he loses two more hawks, tillerson is going down. >> they are saying -- this is >> they are saying -- this is . . .
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