tv Special Report With Bret Baier FOX News January 10, 2017 3:00pm-5:01pm PST
he won when he was playing for alabama in 1982. >> that's it for us. "special report" is next. >> bret: president-elect trump's pick for attorney general says he is not a racist. and he will not be a "yes" man for his boss. this is "special report" ." good evening. coming to live from fox news world headquarters. welcome to a special two hour episode of "special report." i am bret baier. we begin in washington with the first confirmation hearings for prospective members of president-elect donald trump's cabinet. his pick for attorney general, alabama senator jeff sessions, still answering questions on capitol hill, having spent much of the day explaining his views on a number of hot button issues
and defending allegations of racism, that he insists vigorously are false. mike emanuel is on capitol hill with the highlights. good evening. >> bret, good evening. jeff sessions, known for his strongly held views. he did not apologize for his beliefs but said he would enforce the law if confirmed. >> you have referred to roe v. wade as "one of the wors worst, colossally erroneous supreme court decisions of all time." is that still your view? >> it is. i believe it violated the constitution. it is the law of the land and i would respect it and follow it. >> the hearing was disrupted multiple times by people protesting on a range of issues from illegal immigration to race relations. after having a reputation of being very tough on illegal
immigration, sessions was noncommittal about the children of illegals in this country. approximately 800,000 so-called dreamers. >> we need to fix this immigration system. we have been placed in a bad situation. i really would urge us all to work together. >> sessions said after being an early supporter of the president-elect, he would recuse himself from mature investigations of hillary clinton's email or the clinton foundation. >> with regard to secretary clinton and some of the comments i made, i do believe that that could place my objectivity in question. >> sessions faced a challenge from vermont democrat patrick leahy over an issue during the campaign, a potential band of muslims. >> do you agree with the president-elect that the united states can or should deny entry to members of a particular religion? >> i believe the president-elect subsequent to that statement made clear he believes the focus should be on individuals coming
from countries that have a history of terrorism. >> another voice of opposition will come from new jersey democrat senator cory booker who will testify against him, which the senate historian calls unprecedented. >> sitting senator testifying tomorrow against another sitting senator. these are extraordinary times and make call for extraordinary measures. >> there was a discussion of his failed bid to become a federal judge and sessions described a picture of him at the time as a caricature. >> i did not harbor the race-based discrimination i was accused of. >> john kelly's confirmation hearing to be the secretary of homeland security began. kelly is a retired marine, four-star general, who once led u.s. southern command and has been previously confirmed by the senate five times by unanimous consent. >> if you were to build a wall
from the pacific to the gulf of mexico, you would still have to back that wall up by patrolling by human beings. >> after complaints from democrats about the pace of the hearings, three of the six schedule for tomorrow have been postponed. betsy devos for education secretary has been bumped a week. mike pompeo for cia director bumped to thursday of this week and wilbur ross for commerce secretary bumped back to a week from thursday. democrats sound pleased. >> bret: mike emanuel live on the hill. thank you. let's get some reactions to the sessions hearing from senior judicial analyst mr. napolitano. what struck you? >> his civility, moderate tone, charm, their inability to rattle him even when senator al franken was digging in. he continued to smile and answered softly.
in the parlance of new jersey boxing, they didn't lay a glove on him. >> bret: when "the new york times" comes out and says democrats do little to undermine jeff sessions, you have a sense he had a pretty good day. >> yes. he obviously knew what was coming. i thought his answer on roe vs. wade was absolutely superb and it's an answer that enjoys wide credibility in the legal and judicial communities. what's wrong with it is it's the type of policymaking that should have been made by the congress or state legislatures and not by nine unelected judges. it's a widely held view. as soon as he said it, they went onto another subject. >> bret: i want to talk about another subject, a question of recusing himself about one particular case that could happen. >> i do believe that that could place my objectivity in question. i have given that thought. i believe the proper thing for me to do would be to recuse
myself. >> to be clear, you intend to recuse yourself from both the clinton email investigation and any matters involving the clinton foundation if there are any? >> yes. this country -- we ensure that no one is above the law. >> bret: recuse himself from the clinton investigation, either the email or foundation. >> yes. i thought that was politically brilliant. it stopped the further interrogation. as you know, there is new evidence on the email front, which may reopen the case because the fbi, during the giants-packers game on monday night, posted emails that the fbi assures us was hacked by russian, chinese, and other intelligence which included emails clinton had sent. >> bret: unprecedented for an attorney general to say that he
or she would recuse themselves from a case that is yet to come. >> yes. think of the explanation he gav gave. i don't want to be in a position where it looks like i have prejudged her. i am mouthing -- i am paraphrasing. i haven't seen the fbi reports. i don't want to be in a position where it looks like the president's team is punishing his political opponents. but i also don't want anybody to get a free pass, because the rule of law means no one is beneath its protection or above its obligation. >> bret: the democrats don't have the votes here. they don't have the numbers because of democrats. back in 2013, they change the rules and now it's 51 to get the confirmation of these cabinet nominees. there isn't anything that sticks out to you that is potentially a problem for him, or is there anybody else that you look at and say there could be issues? >> there may be some issues with rex tillerson. you might have three very, very forceful republicans.
john mccain, lindsey graham, marco rubio at least hesitating. there is probably going to be some democrats that mitch mcconnell has spoken to the compensate for the votes he expects to lose with them. i don't see the president having any problems as long as this happens quickly while he is still enjoying the honeymoon. jeff sessions acquitted himself marvelously today. if the vote work tonight, he would have, in my view, more than 52 votes. >> bret: as always, thank you. good to see you in new york. >> good to be here. >> bret: a painting depicting a police officer as a pig has become a political football. the work has been up and down every few hours. six times up and down. missouri congressman william lacy clay has returned the painting. its removal by republican colleagues. he says the issue is about the
constitution. california congressman says republicans will keep taking it down if clay keeps putting it back up. congressman duncan hunter says he will ask the architect of the capital to take the painting down permanently. >> it portrays police officers as pigs and does not belong in the u.s. capitol. we are going to take it down. it violates house rules. >> is pathetic that some republican members and old-right media types constantly refer to themselves as constitutional conservatives don't think that same document protects the fundamental free-speech rights of my constituents. >> this is an insult to police officers everywhere protecting the american people but especially those police officers who gave their lives so members
of congress wouldn't be mowed down and shot in their own offices. >> republican congressman of georgia tells fox he wants to replace the painting with a poster of the names of police officers who have been killed in the line of duty. as of right now at this hour, the painting is back up. the big issue for republicans on capitol hill tonight is not whether to repeal obamacare but how and when to do it. pauline says lawmakers will work on repealing and replacing obamacare at the same time. some of the g.o.p. are expressing reservations over the prospect of erasing the law without an alternative in place. rand paul joins us in a bit. dylan ruth has been sentenced -- dylan -- sentenced to death. the justice department says
b6 as lawmakers work on sanctios against russia, we are learning more about what the intelligence community has discovered. >> the nation's spy chief testified that before the election the russian president concluded hillary clinton would win and after that vladimir putin favored a trump victory. the russians kept stealing data to discredit a clinton presidency. >> can you tell us when russia viewed hillary clinton as the likely winner? >> in the summertime. july, august. >> did the intelligence services believe donald trump was a likely winner? >> initially no. >> the fbi director was pressed on why his agents were blocked by the dnc and never independently examined the servers breached by russian intelligence in 2015. >> did the fbi request access to
those devices to perform forensics? >> yes, we did. >> do you know why you were denied access to the servers? >> i don't know for sure. >> the senior democrat pressed the director on links between trump advisors on the russian government. he denied the allegations last fall. >> response of a question i asked and release it to the american people. >> will answer any question you asked but the answer will likely be the same as i just gave you. i can't talk about it. >> the fbi director testified there was no evidence russian intelligence breached the rnc or trump campaign but he did say they collected intelligence on unnamed republicans. >> bret: there was some movement on the russian sanctions. >> a bipartisan legislation seek to impose a wide range of sanctions. the bill would include visa bands, those who engage cyber
attacks. >> russia is attacking the united states and our allies political system and a putin-led cold war 2.0. >> none of us know the position of the president-elect but we should know and will know the position of the congress of the united states. >> the announcement comes as the senate considers the nomination of rex tillerson, with the ties to russia, for secretary of state. >> bret: thank you. let's get some democratic perspective on the hearings on the russia issue. virginia senator mark warner serves on the intelligence committee. thanks for being here. i want to get your take, first of all, about the cabinet nominees and what the democratic strategy is. clearly there is a delay in process to move some of these two next week. what is your assessment of where your party is on facing the questions, even though you don't have the votes here? stick of the first thing is, i think all the democrats are asking is the same thing that
republicans and democrats have d in previous administrations. make sure you have filled out the ethics files. make sure the fbi has done background checks. if the committee requires tax returns, as they have in the past, do exactly the same process and procedure. some of the nominees, like mike pompeo who will be up for cia director, they have complied. another number of nominees have not complied at all. i frankly think it would be extraordinary if we were to suddenly start taking votes before all of the nominees paperwork was done. i don't know what has been the hold holdup, whether it is slowness on the nominees part. i think they back and forth yesterday, the democratic leader sent the exact same leader that the republican leader used in
2009 saying this is the prerequisite before we deal with nominees. >> bret: when you are talking about intel physicians, national security positions for the incoming president, do you have any doubt that these votes are going to happen before inauguration day and that his team will be in place, like president obama's team was in place on the first day? >> my hope would be that we see these nominees get their paperwork in. we have seen the head of the office of congressional ethics, who has been there for 20-plus years, say it was unprecedented in terms of folks not responding and getting this material in. in an era, especially when you have someone like the president-elect, part of his campaign was about changing the culture of washington, i think he would want to adhere and have his nominees adhere to the highest ethical standards but i don't think it's anything unreasonable. i am glad that the one i've got, mike pompeo, has that paperwork
in and we are going to have the hearing on thursday. >> bret: there was a question today from senator amy klobuchar to the attorney general nominee jeff sessions about this russia hacking issue. take a listen. >> do you have any reason to doubt the accuracy of the conclusions reached by our 17 intelligence agencies, that in fact russia used cyber attacks to attempt to influence this last election? >> i have no reason to doubt that and no evidence that would indicate otherwise. >> bret: do you have concerns with how the incoming administration is handling this administration? do you have concerns about their seriousness on this issue, now knowing what the classified details were? >> well, bret, i think this was a attack on the american democratic process. we have heard today from all four heads of the intelligence agencies in their combined over 100 years of experience, they haven't seen these actions from
a foreign state, like russia, in terms of trying to interview. we heard today there may be other information out about political figures, republicans and democrats, that they could -- selectively going forward. this is something all americans should be concerned about. when i am committed to doing is making sure and working in a bipartisan way that we get this information thoroughly reviewed, let everybody reach their conclusions, get it out as much as possible to the american people. it does concern me a little bit that prior to the brief the president-elect got on friday, that he continued to disparage the work product of the intelligence professionals. these are folks who bravely serve our country. in secret, day in and day out. i don't understand it. >> bret: he said he believes the politicization is in the leadership and the men and women of the intel community are doing good work. >> i would ask you to take a
look at what the hearing said today in terms of these individuals. most of them who've been in service in the intel community for decades, not just with this administration. for decades. some that were appointed by the prior administration and president bush. this was the considered opinion of all the intelligence professionals. >> bret: let me ask you this. there -- they have said there is not evidence that there was hacking of actual, any changes in votes. do you believe that somehow they hacking changed votes or change the outcome of the election in any way where your party is somewhat saying this is not legitimate? >> i'm not here to relitigate the election. i'm here to find out what happened. the intelligence professionals said while there were some forays into voting files and voting areas that didn't affect the actual account.
bret, when an election is this close. you don't know what determines the outcome, you know. but that's part of politics. the notion -- >> bret: you question the legitimacy? >> the question was, i think the american people will make this judgment. when you have an organized effort to discredit one candidate and then support another candidate, indirectly at least, and then you have agencies of the russian propaganda machine, continued to have this concentrated and organized, using the words of the intelligence professionals, they had never seen anything like this in their lifetime. this is not to relitigate but i think the american people -- >> bret: i can get you to say donald trump is the legitimate president. >> donald trump is going to take the oath of office on january 20th.
i hope for the sake of the country he is successful. for the sake of the country, as well, looking back, looking forward in terms of how we gain news, look at the credibility of news. in terms of the vulnerabilities of elections in france and germany and the netherlands this year, we need to get it out the american people and our nato allies that these actions we saw in the past american election were unprecedented. and i think it was attacking our democratic process. we believe this is unprecedented and unwarranted. >> bret: i thought your question about cyber attacks and cybersecurity. why do you think there's not a strategic response already in place to deal with this, since it's been happening to the u.s. for quite some time? seemed like there wasn't an answer. what has been going on?
>> this is a world that is evolving faster than government. it's one of the reasons why the republican senator from colorado and i have tried to bring together everyone interested. there have been nine different hearings, nine different committees held 27 hearings. i think in terms of more vis-a-vis russia and i want to take a look at the bill that senator mccain introduced. we need to up our cyber game across the board not just in terms of government actions but for all of society. when we realize how many times we are hacked into in terms of intellectual property and personal information theft, we have to up our game. >> bret: senator warner, we appreciate your time for thanks for being here. special report continues after this break period bread we wilt obamacare in the first news
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>> bret: anticipation is building for tomorrow's news conference with president-elect donald trump. it will be his first since winning the election and in fact his first since last july. peter doocy sets the stage from outside trump tower. >> on the eve of his first formal news conference since winning the election, the president-elect and his team are facing new questions about how they're going to deliver on his premier campaign promise. >> i will have mexico pay for that wall. >> mexico's foreign minister announced today his country won't ever bankroll a border wall.
>> translator: there are no circumstances, not the best trade deal investments, support which would justify taking a step that would violate the dignity of mexicans just such an extent. >> officials are reminding doubters that the president-elect has been able to bend american companies to is well with a twitter account, and is not even president yet. they insist our neighbors to the south will fund a wall one way or another. >> one of the things the president-elect has talked about his companies are moving out of this country and then going to a place with cheaper labor and trying to sell back, at the expense of american workers, those products. i think there's a way you can utilize some of those taxes and tariffs to help fund this as well. >> insiders at trump tower today continued defending the newly named senior advisor to the president, jared kushner. allies continue wondering about the appropriateness of the president-elect hiring his 36-year-old son-in-law. allies are insisting the businessman who is divesting from major holdings even though he plans to forgo a salary in d.c. will bring a lot to the west wing.
>> isaiah helped negotiate the meeting with the president of mexico -- i saw him help negotiate the meeting with the president. he has terrific negotiating skills and has been enormously successful. >> the president-elect huddled with his pick to be health and human services secretary, tom price. mr. trump got visits on tuesday from major league baseball commissioner rob manfred and robert f kennedy, jr., a famous skeptic about the safety of vaccines, who said he agreed to become some sort of an authority on the subject. >> did you talk about taking an official role in the transition? >> vaccine safety and scientific integrity. >> what did you say? >> i said i would. >> in the last few minutes a trump spokesperson told nbc news that no final decision has been made about the formation of a
vaccine safety commission. stay tuned for more details. we know that part of the president-elect's day was spent going over inaugural festivities and we've learned that president obama has invited mr. trump to the white house before he takes the oath of office, ten days from now. the outgoing president, incoming president and their wives will motorcade to the capital. >> bret: peter doocy outside trump tower. president obama will take one last shot at defining and defending his legacy tonight in chicago paid he will give his farewell address in front of enthusiastic supporters in his adopted hometown. kevin corke is in chicago with the latest. >> it will not surprise you that by mid day, the president had already gone over the draft at least four times and we are told by senior administration officials he will continue the revisions up until the time he delivers his address tonight, shortly after 9:00 p.m. eastern
time, his last major address to the american people. the theme is a simple one, and that is moving forward, coming together. in the spirit of a peaceful transfer of power, the transition of one presidency to the next. he is expected also to acknowledge he had some failures but that failures aren't permanent and perseverance ultimately wins out. the tone is expected to be a bit like a state of the union. inclusive, soaring, big ideas. also expected to hammer home the idea that even though he lives office with progress and work to be done, we are one boisterous, bickering, brotherly america. >> the president believes obviously that the diversity of this country is its strength. for all our differences, there is more that unites us than separates us. our country is stronger when we remember that principal and we draw upon those common values.
>> if you are looking for a template for tonight's speech, look no further than the president's address from selma alabama. you may recall it touched on history, a low point in our union but finished with a passionate flourish. that's the idea tonight. we have been through a lot these past eight years but we will arise because that is the american spirit. if i were to sum it up, part pep talk, part pad on the back. also part preaching about the goodness of america. we are told the president just landed here in chicago. we will bring you our live andrage on fox news tonight. analysis. kevin corke live in chicago. tomorrow, when president-elect trump hold his news conference, economics will be one big issue. also wednesday the ceo of the u.s. chamber of conference, tom donohue will give his speech on the state of american business peer he joins us tonight from washington with a preview.
good evening, tom. what is the state of american business? >> the state of american businesses moving in the right direction and we are very optimistic about the future. we look at what has happened since the election with improvements in the stock market, a clear increase in investments, working together between and among countries. throughout the nation, to drive employment up. all of this can continue if we move quickly on one fundamental issue, and that is growth. we cannot achieve any of our objectives in this country to employ more people, to expand business, to expand trade, to take care of the questions of health care and taxes if we don't drive growth.
and growth cannot be done by the federal government. it cannot be done by state governments. it can be helped, but it has to be done by the private sector. the simple rule of thumb is we must take the pressure off the private sector from massive regulation and we must work very, very hard to take the pressure off the financial community so it can provide for millions and millions of small companies and others, the type of financing and support they need to grow the american economy. i believe the future is bright and we ought to seize it and sees it right now. >> bret: tom, you and the chamber event critical, obviously, the obama administration on the issue of regulation, on the issue of growth that i think most of the chamber would say it's not as much as it could have been in the afterglow of the recession, if you will. you mentioned increasing trade.
that is one issue president-elect trump has spoken out about, specifically about china. talking to "the new york times" editorial board about china, "the only power we have with china is massive trade. i would tax trying on products coming in. i would do a tariff, yes. they do it to us. i would do attacks. that tax, let me tell you what the tax should be. the tax should be 45%." that was from january 7th. for your thoughts. >> my thought is that the trade with china is fundamental to their economy and is absolutely essential two hours, and it is very significant to our geopolitical and security relationships in the region. a45% tax was commented on once. the issue of border taxes or tariffs on goods will be discussed by a long list of very
skilled people that the president-elect has recruited to come into the government to work on the economic growth and trade issues. i'm optimistic for two very important reasons. number one, those people who event appointed to very important jobs in this government are of high skill with great business experience and good experience of dealing around the world. i am particularly optimistic that it appears as the president-elect learns more about issues that he has not been familiar with, he doesn't back away from his objectives but he moderates his position to fit exactly the need of america. >> bret: you are bullish on growth, bullish on the possibilities. you are optimistic. what do you make of the president-elect's efforts with specific companies to make sure they are bringing jobs back? really working the phones to some of these companies or working twitter. >> well, i think there's a
little history to look at. you can look through many american presidents from john kennedy, who locked this deal executives in the white house, to lyndon johnson, who talk to people about economic issues. it's a normal factor for presidents to want to enter into issues of trade and business when it's a challenge to the american people and groups of different industries. i think the president is doing it with new mitigation means and with a certain level of enthusiasm. and i'm hopeful that we will see productive results by not over enthusiastic intrusions. >> bret: thanks for your time. ahead of the state of american business speech, we appreciated. the confirmation process for the trump cabinet is now underway. we will take a look at how
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>> bret: a very forceful response by senator jeff sessions, the attorney general nominee, by president-elect trump. facing some tough questions today but largely most people believe he came out unscathed. another person on skates, general kelly come up for homeland security in part because he has the former defense secretary of the obama administration saying this. >> he's one of the finest people i've ever known. i would trust him with my life and indeed many others, mainly young marines, literally have done so. how often is it that a tough commander genuinely is beloved by his troops? >> bret: he is up for homeland security. let's bring in our panel. editor in chief laura ingraham and the national political reporter. your assessment of these hearings kind of being indicative of where we are. >> the drama that was anticipated about senator sessions especially. i think the golden globes were more interesting, at this point
pretty was so well prepared. he had a great team of people helping him. his breadth of knowledge of the hot button issues bringing up the abortion question. asked about roe vs. wade. would you stand by your view that roe vs. wade was one of the most outrageously bad decisions ever? he said yes i do. but as attorney general, it is the law of the land. obviously allocating the right power to the executive branch versus what the judicial branch may or may not do. they tried. they had al franken out there taking some swings. i think he's going to get confirmed. what this is about is not whether senator sessions will get confirmed. it's about power. the democrats playing to their aggrieved vase. it's about fundraising. it's about 2018 and 2020. >> bret: speaking of which, his democratic colleague
cory booker is testifying against senator sessions, which is unprecedented in the senate. >> i think they are going to play the race card here. democrats are calling sessions a racist. it is hearsay. it's an old charge. they play the race card so often. they cry wolf on race so often. we need more than hearsay when sessions was attorney general or u.s. attorney, i should say, he prosecuted a capital case against the ku klux klan. i think they need to bring more to the table than that. by the way, bret, attorney general eric holder under president obama spent years trying to shut down school voucher programs for poor, minority children. i don't think anything jeff sessions has been accused of races of the level of harming blacks to the extent that policies like that do. >> bret: cory booker was
granting an award in selma, a gold medal 2-foot soldiers. participated in the civil rights march from selma to montgomery. he said i'm here to pay tribute to extraordinary americans. i feel blessed and honored to have partnered with senator senator sessions in being a sponsor of this important award. bottom line is, how much of this is, to laura's point, setting the table for politics going forward. >> that's the framework that you have to look at this confirmation process with because democrats do not have an avenue to block the nominees either. they are the ones that change the filibuster rules. they need 51 votes to get these people confirmed. you see democrats trying to leverage what little power they have. also you are looking at someone like cory booker perhaps having ambitions beyond the senate, kind of using these platforms to
advance their own causes. i think democrats are trying to do whatever they can to kind of hold some of this up. you are going to have some democrats supportive of these nominees, particularly those up for reelection in 2018 in states that donald trump did well in. people like the democrat from west virginia, joe manchin. >> facing some tough leverage. >> democrats are slow walking this because the paperwork wasn't in. i've been told when it comes to secretary of education nominee betsy devos, his her paperworks in a month early. this is political theater. >> the base of the democratic party is livid. they are so angry. they came out with nominees hillary might have chosen. they are mad about that list, thinking some are too
conservative. the natives are restless in the democrat party. they have to be fed something. there is drama. they are thinking cory booker is the next barack obama. this is setting him up perhaps to take the lead in the future of the democratic party and a meaningful way. it's a big mistake for cory. he's a smart guy and he has taken a turn to the left that he's going to regret having done. >> is there a nominee in the crosshairs that is potentially in trouble? >> tillerson will be the nominee perhaps they can wound most grievously because of the russia connection. new developments on russia that maybe will be talking about later. i think they can most smear trump with that story. they can stay on the russia hacking story, future conflicts with trump business entities. they can say that trump put in someone who had cozy his nice dealings with the kremlin, maybe they think they can get some traction but i don't think it's going to work. >> straight shooter. >> there are democrats who say
this is illegitimate, that donald trump should not be president. that somehow they hacking affected the election to the point where he shouldn't win. >> you are not seeing democrats jump at the opportunity to say this election was fair and square. you are not seeing them draw the clear distinction that someone like paul ryan has been doing, saying we are not challenging the results of the outcome. we do want to investigate what happened. you are not releasing democrats do that because some are arguing, you know, that in a race this close, that came down to 80,000, 90,000 votes in the midwest. little things matter here and there. i do think when you're making this argument you have to make clear what happened and what did not. >> bret: standby. next, president obama's long good-bye.
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♪ >> he came in, there was no ices. now, there is an isis. now, there is an obamacare. a recovery that was tepid. if the only president that i know of that didn't have 2% growth at any time, any one year that he was a president. >> i think that it was a scandal free beyond his personal life. the man's integrity, his decency, his optimism about america that he both embodied and pursued, i think, will be his legacy. every day, he came to work in the white house, you knew that the values that emanated from the top were patriotic and fewer. >> bret: president obama gets ready to deliver his farewell address from chicago.
we just have a few excerpts from it. we will read a little bit of this. i first came to chicago when i was in my early 20s, still trying to figure out who i was, still searching for purpose to my life. it was a neighborhood's not far from here where i began working with church groups in the shadows of closed steel mills. it was on these streets were a witness the power of faith and the quiet dignity of working people in the face of struggle and loss. this is where i learned that change only happens when ordinary people get involved, get engaged, and come together to demand it. many other excerpts here. one thing to note is that he doesn't leave, according to the approval polls, personal approval polls come up with a very high approval rating. this is the rcp average, there is an ap approval rating up to 57%. there, you see, george w. bush at 34 and bill clinton at a 66. we are back with the panel. it seems, caitlin, that he is making the case, again,
hearkening back to hope and change. the trouble is, the change came with donald trump this election and he is talking about a blue-collar workers who democrats lost. >> exactly. he had spent the past several months before the election campaigning against trump and calling him unfit for office. now, he is handing the baton to him and voters rejected a lot of what the president did in his tenure. you see that in the polling average. i think with the president is trying to do here is to use seek to demoralize the democrats, get them engaged in the game, young people, who frankly didn't show up in this election, get them back into the business of rebuilding the party. i am wondering how he operates as an ex-president, and terms of rebuilding the party. you have some who want him very involved, others who are looking. >> bret: there are some democrats, laurel, who blame him or their party is, in the
wilderness. >> nice rhetoric that you read from him, he can deliver a good speech. it doesn't surprise me that his personal approval numbers are quite high. he himself said the election was a referendum on his legacy. he said that. his policy. he begged the audiences, that he really energetically campaigned before, to deliver a victory once again, victory to continue the positive change that he had begun. this election was a repudiation of the policies that have kept this economy quite stagnant, of a foreign policy that was modeled. america went into decline. china was on the rise. we have race relations, i think i'm at the debilitated state. the u.s. military polls show deep dissatisfaction with the commander-in-chief. so, while i think his personal approval rating, great family man, great has become a great father. i think he is optimistic about much of america. that's great. boy, electing donald trump couldn't be more of a 180-degree turn from what he initially ran
on in 2008. >> the obama presidency was historic, by definition. he was the first black president. the presidency itself has been a disappointment. particularly, to democrats. he was elected with historic majorities. he squandered them to the point where he will turn over the white house, not only to a republican president, but also to a republican house. and a republican senator. i expect to hear him tonight tooting what he considers his accomplishments, economic recovery, obamacare, paris, decorah, and so forth. but the truth of the matter is, donald trump is positioned to reverse a lot of this. very quickly. partly because of how obama went about achieving those things. not working with congress, doing enron's executive actions, and so forth. his legacy is donald trump. >> bret: when you hear him say to those local tv stations that race relations have improved, -- >> i don't know where he is getting that from. it has been obvious in poll after poll that race relations have deteriorated on his watch.
i don't know -- not only that, on election day, something like two-thirds of the countries that we were headed in the wrong direction. >> bret: caitlin, is there a sense that democrats, that he will say something about bipartisanship? clearly, he didn't have it. he wasn't able to achieve it. he didn't really work at it. if you talk to both democrats and republicans, they questioned that. >> it is certainly something that he though meant a lot. it has end-of-the-year press conference, he talked about the deterioration of bipartisanship in washington. you do have a lot of republicans or democrats who would kind of blame has rhetoric on that. i don't know that anything that he could say in this moment will really change anything going on. we are facing next week inauguration, turning the new page. yes, presidents give farewell address is, some of them come a very prominent, and newsmaking. i'm not sure if this will be one of them. of course, he is entitled to it. to be when i know one, 1961.
>> 1988. reagan. [laughter] >> bret: thank you, panel, as always. don't forget the press conference from the president-elect tomorrow. that does it for our first hour of "special report." we have another news packed hour straight ahead. we will tell you about a controversial painting, that is on capitol hill that has been taken up, taken down, put up, taken down, a half-dozen times today. we'll get to the bottom of it with a live report, plus, senator rand paul on obamacare and repealing and replacing. "special report" continues from new york world headquarters after this. ♪ ♪ want longer lasting heartburn relief?
♪ >> bret: welcome to our second hour of "special report." i am bret baier at fox news world headquarters in new york. tonight's top story, confirmation hearings begin for prospective members of president-elect donald trump's cabinets. 1st out of the gate, alabama republican senator jeff sessions before the judiciary committee today. trump's nominee as attorney general defended his record on civil rights and said he will quit crackdown on gun violence and what he called it the scourge of radical islamic terrorism. this afternoon, john kelly began his confirmation hearing as the nominee to run homeland security. the homeland security department. you are looking live at the
stage where president obama is a set tonight to deliver what is being billed as his farewell address, just getting some excerpts now from that address. it will come in front of a supportive audience and the president's adopted hometown of chicago. congressional democrats have returned to a -- a controversial painting depicting a police officer as a pig to an exhibit of constituent art at the u.s. capitol. several times today, after being removed by republicans, several times today. but it's a story we have been following several times today. shannon bream is here to tell us where the dispute stands tonight. good evening, shannon. >> the controversial painting, which is been hung up four times and taken on three times, i think i'm a rehung, we believe it is on the ball again now. the piece called "untitled number one" came to hang as if first place winner of conqueror congressman lacy clay's art competition. the painting by then 17-year-old
high school student is described as representing social injustice and the lingering elements of inequality in modern america. critics, including g.o.p. congressman duncan hunter, who was the first to take it on last friday, say it's got to go. >> it is really strange of the congressional black caucus now stands for portraying cops as pigs in the u.s. capitol. that does not make sense to me. there is no place for this in the u.s. capital. it is just strange, a very sad commentary, again, democrats, that this is what they want to stand for. >> members of the cbc gather to rehang the painting early tuesday, saying, this was a matter of free speech. >> i did not agree or disagree with this painting. but i will fight to defend this young man's right to express himself because his artwork is true for him and he is entitled to that protection under the law. >> back in 2015, congressman clay urged the mayor of
st. louis to take down this confederate memorial at a park there, singing about her, "symbols matter and should reflect who we are as a people today. he continued, symbols associated with this country's racist oppressive past should not be elevated or displayed in public places." so come up by mid day, the painting he disappeared again. this time, it was not hunter who removed it, it was a fellow g.. congressman, who said, i could not in good conscience continue to walk by a painting that so flagrantly disrespected the brave police officers that protect us. here in the capital and in our communities across the country. after he sent the painting to clay's office, clay once again returned her to the spot where it has hung since june. it was then taken down by congressman rohrabacher. at last check, clay had walked it over again. all right, so, hunter said he will formally ask the architect of the capital to remove the painting for good. he is predicting that members will continue to take it down and take it over to clay's
office. by the way, a lawmaker who says he doesn't want to be identified says he worries that will be eventually be a physical altercation over this painting. we'll keep an eye on it, bret. >> bret: wow. okay. shannon, thank you. what you think should be done with the painting? let me know on twitter, @bretbaier. or on facebook, facebook.com/bretbaiersr, to talk about this controversy over the painting. a hot top topic all over the country. dana perino, cohost of "the five," and chris stirewalt. isn't this what is wrong with washington? >> [laughs] yeah. you have a congress that can't manage to have a student art contest successfully executed. and we wonder why things don't work together. they don't work better. this is not a good sign. >> bret: it seems kind of stupid, but then, when you get to the back and forth, dana, you know, it is constitutional rights, its it's fighting -- >> people arbor referring to the
type. of course, there is a free-speech argument here. there is also, as i understand, some rules about the student art competition that it can't be of contemporary political sensitive nature, which to become a doesn't sound like free speech, et cetera. also, yesterday, the law enforcement appreciation day. today, you have the death of steve mcdonald, an nypd cop, who several decades ago, was injured in the line of duty, was paralyzed. he became the paragon of forgiveness. one thing that i think could maybe show something different in washington, if these numbers feel so passionately about this painting, why not invite the student? to come and talk to them, have a forum, talk it out. this nonsense of going back and forth, when they could be doing the people's business, doesn't seem to be very productive. actually, talking to the student, clearly, he felt he needed to express himself in some way. even if it is offensive to us, we make fun of snowflakes all the time, they have to be accepting of offensive things. because it is america and there is free speech. i can understand why this is
offensive to the police officers and members of congress. >> bret: may be a painting summit, like the beer summit. >> sure. >> bret: what is this, though, say about the politics surrounding this whole thing? donald trump ran on this police issue. he ran effectively and some of these estates in the middle of the country. on this issue broadly. what does that say about where we are? >> well, first of all, i would say that i bet we will see the end of the congressional art contest. i bet -- >> come no. >> come yes. this is why we can't have nice things. [laughter] what does it say about the national dialogue? it says that it is broken. it's badly broken. remember, people, the polling has been incredibly clear on this. it has been unambiguous about what the electorate, with the american people think. the american people side with law enforcement overwhelmingly and have by increasing numbers, since the outbreak of this painful national discussion of ferguson. here is the thing, though. just because it is popular doesn't make it right.
just because something -- doesn't give someone the right to take it down, anymore than it gave the congressmen that made it, the righ the first place. popularity does not equal being correct. people in washington don't understand that sometimes. >> bret: i don't know. seeing the video going up and down and up and down, then, obamacare, and the replacement, you have taxes, and all kinds of problems around the country, it just seems like so small. let me turn to what president obama is going to say are not going to say tonight. what do you think that message is going to be? >> this is a great point i was going to make earlier today when greg stepped on it. i added it to my great .2 journal. i use it here. it is so interesting to me about eight years ago, president obama was taking office, his inaugural address, that will campaign for him was about aspiration. hope, change. tonight, he decided not to give a speech from the oval office but to go to chicago, which i think was about to say, i haven't forgotten where i came from.
i am going to go home, i am not beholden to washington. what i hope he doesn't do is try to give a laundry list of all the accomplishments because he has had plenty of that. i don't know how he tries to match an aspirational tone to what he did eight years ago. i think he will try. >> bret: chris, i want you to start with, i will tell you what, i want to hear your thoughts. >> [laughs] every time i said, i have to pay dana $0.50. [laughter] the truth is, this is a bad convention. a bad political convention. like many things in the television era, starting with lyndon johnson, like the stupid convention of having the televised state of the union address, this is an awful tradition that is with us forever now because no president wants to not to do it. so, they all do it. guess what they all end up being? this is not george washington, or, i know a guy who wrote a book about this, dwight eisenhower, who, once he was off the hook for my said, there is some stuff i didn't tell you before but you need to hear it for me before i leave. these speeches are that anymore.
what they are, as dana said, laundry list. at the rationalization. here is why i did not have a stinky presidency, the people who disagree with you to begin with, want to hear you. your own partisans are already convinced. so, why are you doing it? >> bret: last thing. as president obama the head of the democratic party after he leaves office? >> i think at this point, he will be. there is no one really, no natural person it will take its place. they will try to latch onto him and try to help him preserve obamacare. i think the best thing for him would be to try to end this chapter, this particular chapter of his life and move onto the great things he is going to do in the future. >> bret: chris, last word. >> one of the great things about not being god is not trying to do his job. barack obama should let things end up however they are going to end up, let his party and country go where it is going to go. he had his turn. >> bret: chris, dana, thank you. we will cap be updated on the painting. [laughter] now, something more serious. an intensive search is going on
right now and in and around orlando, florida. we have been following this for a man accused of murdering a police officer and contributing to the death of another. correspondent steve harrigan is following the operation tonight for miami. >> around-the-clock manhunt for the killer responsible for the death of two policeman in orlando continues today. hundreds of officers are searching for marquis floyd, 41, who shot and killed a female police officer outside a walmart in orlando after she recognized him as the man wanted for murder charges. >> i simply can't explain this type of senseless attack. i want to reassure the community that the orlando police department and the surrounding agencies are dedicating every available resource to catch this criminal and we will catch this criminal and we will bring him to justice. >> the officer, deborah clayton, was tipped off about the presence of the murder suspect outside the walmart early monday and ordered him to stop.
instead, lloyd drew a gun, fired several times, and killed a police sergeant, who is a 17 year veteran of the force and a mother of one. clayton was wearing a bulletproof vest. two hours later, a second police officer, norman lewis, was killed in a motorcycle accident while on the hunt for lloyd. the two deaths have sparked a tremendous sense of urgency among local law enforcement to bring the suspect to justice. >> we want to bring this dirt bag to justice. >> squad teams, helicopters, and armored vehicles are assisting in the search. lloyd carjacked two different vehicles and was seen entering an apartment complex, but a door-to-door search has yet to turn up any leads. officials are concerned he may be getting some help. >> we want the community to know, if you are assisting markieth lloyd of lead capture, he will be criminally charged. i can assure you that we will not rest until markieth lloyd is
behind bars. >> boyd is a career criminal who spent ten years in jail for cocaine distribution. he is also accused of murdering his pregnant girlfriend. right now, there is a $100,000 bail, a reward for information that will lead to lloyd's arrest. bret back to you. >> bret: steve harrigan live in miami. steve, thank you. president obama's choice of chicago is the location for what is being billed as his farewell address has brought a renewed focus on that troubled the city. correspondent matt finn verse wow reports, the so-called second city is topping the charn it comes to violence. >> as president obama returns to his adopted hometown of chicago to give his farewell speech, critics wonder if he'll address the elephant in the room. >> this is a problem! speak of the city's crime epidemic. >> i'm tired of doing funerals. i'm tired of seeing mothers standing over her children. >> in 2016, 762 people were murdered in chicago, according to police.
a 63% increase from 2015. over 4300 people were shot. critics say president obama has been mostly silent about an aggressive solution to this city's bloodshed. >> i think there have been times where we needed the president to speak and we needed the president to inspire. but i did not happen, unfortunately. >> in a series of interviews last week marking his final days in office, president obama said his administration has tried to provide federal assistance to chicago. >> chicago is the one big city where you have seen this huge spike, it means that there is something specifically that is happening there. that means we can fix it if we work together. >> everyone agrees chicago's crime is grossly unacceptable. however, how to fix it depends on whom you ask. the issues at the top of the list, and uncontrollable on trade, cheap heroin, and an increasing disrespect for law enforcement. president-elect donald trump making headlines when he tweeted that chicago mayor rahm emanuel should ask for federal help if he is in over his head.
's spokesperson responding, saying, we agreed the federal government has a strong role to play in public safety. we are hard and he is taking the issue seriously. a dark cloud looming over all of this, a department of justice investigation into chicago police department over allegations of racism and brutality. its findings could have major ramifications for the police force. the head of chicago's police force, says she expects the investigation will show the solution requires more than law enforcement. >> job training, doing everything we can to drive down unemployment, provide resources to the kids that are living in poverty, that we have go to schools. this will take a multifaceted approach. speak of the department of justice is expected to release the results of its investigations into the chicago police department right around donald trump's inauguration. bret. >> bret: matt, thank you. the head of the house foreign
affairs committee says new intelligence indicates detainees recently released from guantanamo bay are trying to return to the terror battlefield. the california republican ed royce is asking president obama to stop any additional transfers. president-elect trump has had the same. president obama has been trying to decrease the inmate population at gitmo in his final days after failing in efforts to shut it down. secretary of state john kerry says the u.s. may have to find what he calls more forceful ways of dealing with north korea. if it develops a missile that threatens america. he told an audience at the u.s. naval academy that nuclear weapons in the hands of north korea dictator kim jong on post one the most dangerous national security threats to the u.s. two days ago, north korea said it could launch an intercontinental ballistic missile at any time. today, u.s. defense official tells fox the pentagon is sending a sea-based x-band radar to the area to provide capabilities. when we come back, the year in
♪ >> bret: house speaker paul ryan says lawmakers will bark simultaneously on both repealing and replacing obamacare. but there are growing concerns about exactly how that would work and whether some people might lose their coverage in the process. geopolitical correspondent carl cameron takes a look. >> senior trump advisors met with paul ryan on capitol hill last night, and chief trump dragged strategist steve bannon said it was still being worked out. today, ryan indicated both will happen this year. >> we will use every tool at our
disposal through legislation, regulation, to bring replace concurrent along with her appeal, so, we can see people from this mess. >> the first senate votes begin tomorrow night on a nonbinding resolution including repeal and replace provisions. it will guide spending for the next fiscal year. it can also bars senate filibuster is with a process called reconciliation, allowing an obamacare replacement to pass with a simple majority. g.o.p. leaders insist, those who have signed up for obamacare will not be cut off when it is repealed. >> let me be clear. no one who has coverage because of obamacare today will lose that coverage. >> several g.o.p. replacement plans are floating around but not have enough votes to pass. that worries republicans, who want to see specific replacement fine print before repealing the affordable care act. some could break with their g.o.p. leadership and withhold their support. democrats say without a responsible alternative come up to 20 million people could lose their coverage. people could die, state and federal defects it could explode in the economy could tank. >> they have no clue.
they have no plans. they have no idea. >> democrats have dubbed the gop's lack of an obamacare alternative "repeal and run." >> we want to cb plan. you know, the one that you have been working on for six years. >> it's awkward for republicans, who since 2009, have accused democrats of ramming obamacare through congress without adequate hearings or a single g.o.p. vote. but are now considering the same tactics. several g.o.p. senators introduced an amendment last night to slow the process in order to buy the incoming trump administration more time until march 3rd to clarify its priorities and get more a specific or placement bill. >> congressional republicans want trumps a direct involvement in this. they say they replacement and are beginning to prosper an old cliche about at all. it is often easier bring the opposition that it is actually governing, bret. >> bret: all right, karl. thank you. kentucky senator republican rand paul is also a physician. he has been one of obamacare is
leading detractors. but now, he may actually want to keep the law around for a while. he has a plan. senator paul joins us tonight from washington. senator, thanks for being here. what about this repeal replace of the same time? explain how this works. >> actually, i don't want to delay the repeal. i am all for the repeal as soon as we can get to it. but we should both on replacement the same day. i am putting together a bill that will be out this week that will be a consensus replacement bill. there are many bills, probably 50 different republican bills, some of them i have been out two and three decades for the replacement parts. what we want to do in the replacement is legalize the ability to buy an expensive insurance, get rid of the obamacare mandates, lets any insurance product be sold, particularly an expensive insurance products. that's number one. let people save, tax-free, give them tax credits for health savings accounts, so, they can buy insurance. then, the third thing we want to do is let individuals come together as part of groups or
associations, so, they can buy their associations as part of a big pool to have leverage to get lower prices and also, so they don't get affected by adverse things like pre-existing conditions. >> bret: i want to put up the bullet points of this plan. basically, reducing costs, expanding access, expanding choices, leveling the playing field, is how you describe it here. but is there consensus on this and does it include pre-existing conditions and keeping kids on until 26? the good things about that people talk about obamacare. >> i think there is republican consensus on replacement. the ideas that we have taken for the replacement bill come from other republicans bills. there is very little that i have got put in my replacement all that is an original idea that is not an idea already been put out by other republicans. in fact, most of these ideas, calm, congress and tom price, who is designated to be intent
trump's cabinet, he is another physician and congress who has put together a lot of replacement ideas over the years. basically, we have put together the most popular and i think, there is a consensus. i think it will pass overwhelmingly in the house. the question in the senate is, will democrats be willing to work with us to replace obamacare? >> bret: what about those two substantive questions about the pre-existing conditions at up to 26? >> on the 26, i think that is part of the underlying law. unless it is repealed on the underlying law, which will still be part of the law, i think it will still be part of the law that is not repealed. on pre-existing conditions, you can't let people wait until they're sick to buy insurance because if you do, it bankrupts the whole system. young people want to buy into it. they say, i will wait until he gets sick. what we want to do to fix the pre-existing condition because as we try to get people into what are called association plans. these are group plans. if you are a mom and pop and you have a pest control business, instead of buying insurance by yourself, where you might be
effected by pre-existing conditions, let you buy your insurance as part of a big group then, you are not affected by pre-existing conditions. my goal is that there is about 11 million people in their individual insurance market. i want every one of them to be able to buy insurance as part of a group and an association market. so, the goal would be that the people most affected by conditil businesses and individuals, they would no longer have to have that problem because they would be put into big groups and they would be able to buy insurance is a part of a large insurance pool. >> bret: you are also talking as the president-elect talked, about crossing state lines to increase the marketability and the competition? is their tort reform in this package? >> we didn't put tort reform in there because epic a lot of tort reform is occurring at the state level. that is really where most tort occurs is in state-level boards. we didn't put that in there. i am in favor of tort reform come as a physician, to go a long way toward lowering cost. the main thing to remember about
obamacare, it is failing because it increased the cost of insurance for young, healthy people. they didn't buy insurance and sicker people dead. so, and north carolina, the blue cross plant in north carolina for individuals lost $400 million last year under obamacare because he can't have. you can sort of say, oh, we want to young, healthy people to buy insurance but then, you mandate that the only kind of insurance they can buy is very expensive insurance. >> bret: so, you've talked to president-elect trump about this? >> i have. he said he was very enthusiastic about voting on repeal and replacement the same day. we shouldn't leave people in the lurch. let's have a replacement out there for them. i truly think that president trump is very popular and i think a lot of democrats will have to decide, are they going to go against the popular will of their state or are they willing to work with us and say, you know what, obamacare is not working. premiums have gone through the roof. maybe we should work with
republicans to come up with a replacement bill. the replacement bill i have is not controversial. it is a consensus of republicans. but really, i think reasonable, moderate democrats ought to give a look at it, as well. >> bret: the other thing that is tough, the deductibles, senator. i mean, people are paying deductibles through the roof. >> what are your doing is you are paying high deductibles and high premiums. what you need to do, and a normal marketplace, if you choose a higher deductible, you get a lower premium. so, if you are 22-year-old or a 23-year-old, let's say 27, because that provision on 26, let's say you are young, healthy person, you really do want a high deductible, low premium product. under obamacare, you got a high deductible and a high premium. there wasn't a normal market trade-offs. the other thing that we do that obamacare never did as light individuals come together and buy their insurance as a group. that is not happening in our country. this artificial market, the individual market, that was
developed because we gave the tax deductions to getting insurance through employment. so, the other thing we do is equalize the taxes. so, if you buy insurance on your own as an individual or through one of these associations, it will be fully tax-deductible. in fact, we have a tax credit and there to help people afford their insurance, as well. >> bret: we'll see if republicans can circle around this plan, as you mentioned, there is a lot out there. there is some skepticism. i want to get you very quickly to talk about this speech tonight. what you expect to hear from president obama and what you think about it. >> i think president obama could have done a lot more. i think, in the end, people will look back and say, why didn't he try a little harder with congress to get some things done, try to work with some on the other side at all. there were some things i supported that he wanted to do, criminal justice reform, we never got it done because he didn't engage enough in trying to get things done with congress. i think trump is going to be a lot different. i think trump really is going to work with congress, having a
vice president, mike pence, who has been appear a number of times, and says he wants to work with congress, knows how congress works, or doesn't work, i think really, the trump administration is going to engage congress. i think we will be amazed at the things we can get done. >> bret: senator paul, we appreciate your time tonight. next time, we will see you in studio. >> thanks. >> bret: we come back from a deadly year in terror. thousands die, hundreds of attacks. we will look at the numbers, startling numbers, and what they may mean. ♪ dayquil liquid gels doesn't treat a runny nose. it doesn't? alka-seltzer plus cold and cough liquid gels fight your worst cold symptoms including your runny nose. oh, what a relief it is! with not food, become food? thankfully at panera, 100% of our food is 100% clean. no artificial preservatives, sweeteners, flavors, or colors. panera. food as it should be.
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in kabul. it has already been a blood he started 2017 after an exceptionally bloodied year. at a new report finds that 2016 was the deadliest year in suicide bombings since terror groups started carrying them out in the 1980s. 469 attacks by 800 perpetrators in 28 countries come up with 5650 people killed, compared to 4330 and 2015. the institute for national security studies here in israel released the findings. >> the same places that you can see a vacuum of power, political or ethnic, then, we can see very significant rising in the number of suicide bombings. >> iraq and syria had the most suicide bombings. ice is carried out 70% of them. egypt and turkey have also been terror hot spots. isis bombed a cairo church in december, killing 28 people. in turkey, a country battling
isis and kurdish militants, suicide bombings jumped from five in 2015 to 21 last year. western europe was also a suicide bombing target. >> is the islamic state loses in the middle east, there is a higher probability of taking actions in western countries. mainly, you're up. >> the report doesn't include other types of terrorist attacks such as shootings or vehicle attacks like those in europe and the recent one here in jerusalem. a final note on the findings, 10% of the bombings last year were carried out by female attackers, less than previous years, but happening in more countries. bret. >> bret: john huddy and her middle eastern news. john, thank you. what could be the main event in the unarmed capitol hill combat known as the trump cabin and confirmation hearings gets underway tomorrow. secretary of state rex tillerson is easily the president-elect's most controversial and perhaps come out of the box, selection.
he will be fighting off some tough shots from skeptical senators. here is correspondent rich edson. >> in the 1990s, rex tillerson was negotiating a business deal for exxonmobil and yemen. he threw a book and stormed out of the room. tillerson planned that tantrum, a negotiating tactic. this is according to "the wall street journal," which ascribed to tillerson's negotiating style as "cozy with power, unbending, and theatrical." it is that style and business success that drew president-elect donald trump to nominate tillerson for secretary of state. >> our mission is to discover where is the maximum value for that, capture that value of the market wants to provide it. >> he is a product of texas, at state university, and its largest corporation. in 1975, tillerson joined exxonmobil as an engineer, and 2006, became its chief executive officer. no, he has finally left exxon. the u.s. senate will decide if government service is next. >> i think it's a good thing when i secretary of state
understands foreign leaders and understands the cultures and histories of foreign people. >> he has negotiated oil deals around the world, most significantly in russia, where he expanded cooperation with the state-run oil company there. exxon lobbied the u.s. government to lift a certain sanctions against russia. as "the wall street journal" reports, his company holds the rights to more acreage in russia than the rest of its worldwide operations. those sanctions prevent exxon from producing oil and profiting on those rights. in 2013, russian president vladimir putin awarded tillerson the order of friendship. it is that relationship opponents have used to question whether tillerson is an appropriate choice to lead u.s. foreign policy. >> you must look into the background, not on the finances, but even more so, the relationship that he has with foreign nations going forward, because that could be a conflict of interest. >> also, the "usa today" reports that exxonmobil conducted business with iran, syria, and sudan, while those countries
were under u.s. sanctions. the company says that transactions were legal and complied with the sanctions. the senate foreign relations committee will host tillerson confirmation hearing. a democratic aide on the committee says their members will question whether tillerson can "translate his successful business career putting shareholders first it, putting the interest of the american people first." to address concerns over possible conflict of interest, exxon has announced tillerson will sever all ties with the company. as his critics question whether he can truly sever the interests he has built with more than 40 years at exxonmobil. bret. >> bret: >> bret: rich at sevene white house briefing room. rich, thank you. we are through with the first day of confirmation hearings for the cabinet nominees. let's get reacted tonight from charles krauthammer and washington. charles, your thoughts. >> i thought sessions did extremely well, the democrats did not succeed in laying a glove on him. at least, to the point, to the
end, one democratic senator was asking him about awards he got from various obscure groups. then, quoting from a member or two of those groups and asking him to return the award. the quotations were so weak he didn't even know why he was asking. then, the chairman of the committee, chuck grassley, ridiculed the idea that you could even keep track of the groups you accept awards from if you are in the senate. it showed how unserious it had become. he gave all the right answers on things like waterboarding, on discrimination against muslims, then, you have the demonstrators who kept disrupting, who i think undermine the cause. they held up signs saying "kkk," and then, one of the senators, ted cruz, walked sessions through his prosecution of the kkk group that had killed a random black man in the early
1980s, ending up with an actual execution. so, it showed -- i mean, there was nothing there -- if he came out okay, he was supposed to be one of the real targets. i think that bodes well for the coming other nominees. >> bret: is you are feeling, as you have set on the panel, that the most vulnerable, most targeted cabinet nominees still rex tillerson? >> i think it could be also. which, although, they are being nominated for epa, a state attorney general, who actually is suing the epa, i think he is going to be a big target and he will be the subject of a lot of attacks. although, without a doubt, he will hold his republican support. i think think you will get in. tillerson is the one who is the wild card because the russia issue is still alive one. we have these new reports that the russians may have something on trump. tillerson has connected with
putin. the danger for republican nominees, for a trump nominee, is that you lose three republican senators. if you do, you might be denied the nomination. so, you got the hardliners, the old line warriors like john mccain and lindsey graham graham, who might come up might, i don't think it is probable, ty might oppose tillerson. he is probably the one with the biggest livelihood, remains a small, the biggest likelihood of being projected. everyone else, i can't see them being denied. >> bret: hugh mention this reports that space circulating out there, it is unconfirmed, but "the washington post" has a write up of it, the classified report saying, president trump included a section, summarizing allegations that russian intelligence services had compromising material information on trump's personal life and finances, according to
u.s. officials, and that they only released stuff on hillary clinton. i pressed senator warner on this earlier about the hacking at whether he thought somehow, this made the election of donald trump illegitimate. there wasn't a real answer. are we getting closer to democrats challenging for us because of this information that you are hearing from u.s. officials? >> i think that is starting to peter out. if you can't advance that story, show evidence that it influenced the electorate, it is a story being repeated over and over again. i'm not sure it has broad appeal. there is this new thing, there are reports that the russian intelligence has stuff coming damaging stuff, on donald trump, personal and financial, being, i assume, looked wow leaked by our intelligence people. what i have learned over the years in washington is when you
get these kind of spy versus spy leaks, you can't believe anybody, because they are all lying, that is what they do for a living. you never know which side is lying. i think the very fact that this story has surfaced is the way for the cia to be telling trump, you mess with us, we have a lot of information, we can mess with you. so, i see it as more international than i do a threat from the russians. but it could be, who knows what is at the end of this yarn. >> bret: we will follow it. it says it was presented not only to president obama but also present electron from that briefing. we will have an update on this as we get this on fox. charles, as always, thank you. please join me this weekend for a special look at a man who turned success in something other than politics into a path to the presidency. not one that he wanted to choose. it's not donald trump. we are talking about dwight eisenhower. the general had let american forces to victory in world war ii.
in this segment, it from our our special, "eisenhower and a turning point in the war." >> he would manage failure to failure happened, anyway most helpful for political leaders. ♪ >> june 6, almost 4500 men died that day. many more were wounded. but the allies gained a foothold, and it turned out to be decisive. within a year, victory was achieved in europe. ike got a ticker tape parade when he returned to the united states. >> that was the first time i had to seen so many military uniforms, and eisenhower's five stars, which we all counted, was just one of the most thrilling days of my life. >> politicians quickly urged eisenhower to run for the white house. >> eisenhower would say, i'm not a politician come but he had
ability to bring people together. in a kind of calm and unified way, there was nothing acerbic about him. >> dealing with the ego management issues involved with people like field marshal montgomery and patton and bradley, these are giants striding the earth at that particular time. i think those kinds of experiences helped exercise strategic leadership as a president. >> bret: this weekend's program is called "three days in january," it is based on my book of the same name, "three days in january: dwight eisenhower's final mission," which came out today. it deals with the three days from eisenhower's farewell address to john f. kennedy's inauguration and a look back at eisenhower's life. the our special debuts hbm sunday night. this death sentence for the south carolina church shooter, we go live to charleston for the
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his own lawyer, roof delivered a brief closing argument in which the pipes apartment has denied that he was filled with hate, saying, "anyone who hates anything in their mind has a good reason for it and sometimes, that's because they have been misled and sometimes, it is unfair but i would say that in this case, the prosecution come along with anyone else, who hates me, are the ones who have been misled." but prosecutor jay richardson argued that roof is unrepentant under minded jurors that the defendant came to his trial wearing racist symbols hand drawn on his shoes. he suggested to roof videotape himself at target practice before the shootings so he could see the very last images that his victims at emanuel ame church would see as he was killing them. after the hearing, one of the brothers of shooting victim cynthia her commented on the verdict. >> it just sends a message to those who feel the way he feels, that this community will not tolerate it.
>> following the verdict, attorney general loretta lynch issued a statement, saying, it today, a journey of its peers consider the actions and they rendered a verdict that will hold him accountable for his choices. his family issued a statement saying, "we will struggle as long as we live to understand why he admitted this horrible attack, which caused so much pain to so many good people." roof will be back in court tomorrow for his formal sentencing based on what the jury decided today. bret. >> bret: live in charleston, jonathan, thank you. stocks were mixed today. the dow lost 32, the s&p 500 was unchanged. the nasdaq gained 20 for a new record close. we will soon see how the markets react to the start of the trump presidency. let's talk about that tonight with liz clayman and trish ragan from the fox business network. ladies, thanks for having them be in new york. >> good to have you here. >> bret: what about this? is their optimism, exuberance and the markets, and the businesses? >> >> in a huge way.
for the first time in a long while, you are seeing a sense that we will see an administration that is more open to business. via lower taxes, lasix regulation. there's a sense of confidence right now on wall street and in the business community, ceos that we talked to regularly that i think i'm okay, this is an opportunity. i think they haven't felt like that in a long time. >> bret: i talked to tom donohue, the head of the chamber of commerce, he is very optimistic, the state of american business is strong. i pressed him on the china issue, the terrorists, the thine been talking about on twitter and elsewhere. >> absolutely. believe me, if anyone knows, it's the chamber of commerce, their companies, any company that is what business in the u.s. doesn't want a trade war. they buy products, the buy materials to sell to americans. when you talk about we are about to see donald trump's effect on the markets and on business, we are already seeing it.
the market has made multiple records since the day after election day. that is not a mistake. that is not just happenstance. that is the psychology of people believing investors, traders, the average person watching the show, that a businessman is going to be friendlier to business. we have seen him put his money where his mouth is. although, i would argue, i'm sure you agree, when you start attacking american companies are trying to get the best supply chains they could possibly can to keep the products cheapest, that means taking it to mexico, that could end up being a problem. >> bret: president obama will make the case for his economic message and his eight years. he will say that he save the country or has administration dead from going over the cliff and recession. but boy, you listen to the chamber of commerce, the regulations they call, they said were stifling. >> look, you just have to look at the numbers. 1.8% growth on an annualized basis. that is nothing. we could have done a whole lot better and we hope we will do better than that in the future.
yes, he would point to the jobs he created. i also want to point out that a lot of these are part-time jobs. we all know wages have basically got absolutely nowhere for the last 20 plus years. you can't entirely fault him for that. but he sure is part of that blame. yes, he will tout's economic success. bottom line is, people were not willing to invest in a way that they need to really start to get this engine. we are a huge economic engine, to get it going. >> bret: plus, they put a lot of money into this economy throughout his two terms. >> if you look at the markets, since president obama became president, you have seen the dow jones industrials returned 115%. >> by the way, that has nothing to do with the fed, right? the fed is saying, we will raise rates, what you think would cause the market to pull back but because of this optimism -- speak of the only two presidents have done better than that post world war ii both clinton and f.
however, you could argue, that really helps a lot a people calm down about their 4o1 kays that had been deflated, they are 529's, their pension funds. the question now becomes, how do you get people, what trish referenced, believing that they have their well-paying jobs that are stable, versus, i have nothing compared to what i used to have. people do believe that donald trump is a man who may be able to do that. >> bret: crystal ball question. we are on the precipice of 20,000. next year, where are we? [laughter] four years, where are we? >> i think we are going up. first of all, number one, never bet against the american economy. what we can accomplish as a country. i think, you learn your lesson pretty quickly and losses. we will move higher. we will make it through this 20,000. it's quite possible we had 20,000, will pull back a little bad, people look at as a buying opportunity. there are pitfalls out there.
he's got to deliver on this economic growth. if he doesn't, the market will hold them accountable. all and, we are going higher. >> 20,000 as a round number. it makes us feel good to talk about. we just had 19,000 november 22nd. so, we've come a long way in a very short time. what does that mean, everybody? we may probe pull back a bit. it's healthy, normal. we have seen dozens of them of the last couple of years. expected. it's coming. >> bret: i know. but it's a a number. >> it's coming. >> bret: ladies, thank you so much. that's it for the panel pray about find out why one mom locked herself in her pantry and then, taped it. we will explain when we come back. ♪ does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace
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from chicago right here on fox news channel in just a bit. actually, and about 55 minutes. in the meantime, bill o'reilly is here. he is just down the hall. "the o'reilly factor" starts no now. >> bill: "the o'reilly factor" is on tonight. >> we won our leg of the race and we did a darn good job i almost measure of the country, it is better off than when we started. >> bill: president obama's farewell address tonight. the way he sees it may not be the way that you see it. talking points will have the straight story. the far left trying to interrupt the testimony of jeff sessions, more barbaric behavior from this crew. we'll show you what happened. also, had come to your tax dollars at work, more than a half million dollars to study fish crawling on a treadmill. also, 35,000 to build a giant marijuana cigarette. we will weigh