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russia's role in the last election. donald trump has acknowledge it. he's not acknowledging that it affected the outcome. even some of the ridiculous charges that buzz feed makes, he wouldn't accept. >> i'm eric bolling with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams, dana perino, this is "the five" ." a very big news day. a jampacked hour ahead. president-elect donald trump held his first news conference in nearly six months today. he answered 17 questions in total on a variety of topics, including russia, obamacare, the wall, the handover of his businesses, taxes, the supreme court and more. he kicked it all off with the bombshell unsubstantiated new reports that russia has compromising personal and financial information about mr. trump. >> i want to think a lot of the
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news organizations here today because they looked at that nonsense that was released by may be the intelligence agencies. who knows? may be the intelligence agencies would be a tremendous blot on their record if they did that. a thing like that should shoule never been written. it should never have been had and it should never have been released. i think it's a disgrace that information will be left out. i saw the information. i read the information outside of that meeting. it's all fake news. it's phony stuff. >> it should be noted how abhorrent the actions taken by buzz feed are. they published the full text of the dossier. without fact-checking or cross sourcing anything. the editor-in-chief bends smith -- says there are serious
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reasons to doubt the allegations and published it anyway. nbc universal has invested $400 million in the failing web site. dana, these news agency as this dossier. how do you think they got it? 's because i don't know. several reporters have said they have been given it as well. i don't know if it was the intelligence agencies. i don't know who gave it out. i think it says something about the state of journalism today. i know they have terrible approval ratings. no one trusts them. i understand a lot of that but all of these reporters who have been given it over the last several months, maybe they tried to verify it. if they couldn't verify it and they never published it. i think that says something about the state of the profession. it's probably in better shape than people think. >> i saw tom brokaw saying i knew about this report but we
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couldn't substantiate it. nbc has a $400 million investment in buzzfeed. should they cut them off? >> it is nothing but yellow journalism. they put the stream in lame stream media. trump has a right to be pissed. if peter teal gets in the mix, you are in trouble. what bodes the dead, what buzzfeed did was amazing for trump in a way because what he did was, even if there's any compromising of information on trump, and there by be from russia. who knows about financial stuff? it doesn't matter. buzzfeed went with the unbiased verbal stuff. it's so absurd that now the story is about evil buzzfeed and how rotten they are and are stupid they are and how they are probably going to be gone in a month. who knows? no one is talking about what might actually happen in the
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future, so it was a big victory and it allowed, the press conference came out strong and forceful. if we were talking about this. i like the part with the lawyer. it is boring but important. it's like sensitivity training that eric and i went through. you have to sit there. true story. it's very important. i thought that was neat because they kind of put that inside as the meat in the sandwich grade i actually enjoyed listening to what he was doing. and i learned a word. emolument. >> it was the most important line of the 15 or 20 minutes. said mr. trump was going to donate the proceeds from foreign governments to the u.s. treasury which is amazing. i've never heard of that. >> k.g., this is not going to be popular. john mccain handed the 35 page
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dossier of oppo research, handed it to the fbi. feels like that should been thrown into the garbage. >> i don't know the facts and circumstances. i read it. i don't know. john mccain is somebody that i admire and know personally. before i cast any dispersions in his direction, i am loath to do that without having an understanding of exactly what transpired. i don't think he would offer anything he didn't believe to be truthful. what you saw is president-elect trump turned this whole story to his advantage by saying, lo, this is not true. this is salacious, dishonest. played beautifully into the whole campaign theme where people were distrustful of the media. they weren't getting the full reporting about rallies, the movement, what was happening in
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the country. that's why everyone was caught lying cited election night with the results. it's part of the reason. they didn't understand what was going on. i think it's very upsetting when you see this kind of stuff that they try to put forward to try to destroy reputations and destroy lives. he made a great point today which was, you have seen this happen to so many people. >> who did it? >> they should find out. >> it's got to be either one of the intel chiefs or someone in intel or someone who had access to it. the am i six agent or john mccain. >> they had it for months and didn't do anything. >> even donald trump today said, his expectation, his regard for the press was raised in many cases. i think he was reporting to "the new york times" and "washington post" and others who said it was unsubstantiated information. let me clear something up. this has been in the atmosphere
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of reporters, political reporters, i am one of them. since october. mother jones wrote a story in october before the election that referred to these documents. where did these documents come from? they come from a man who used to be a british spy and he was initially hired by republicans in the republican primaries to develop a packet of opposition research on donald trump. subsequently the democrats, once trump becomes the general campaign opponent for the democrats, they started going to this guy for the same kind of information. >> seems to me that would be the source of who leaked it. >> hang on. mother jones did not go into the detail that we saw today because they didn't have everything verified. you are talking about terry reed going to jim comey in october. john mccain, as we've heard,
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john mccain has those documents. jim comey. let me get this straight. it's okay to spread innuendo about hillary clinton but not to go about the dirt that you have on donald trump. i wonder what's going on. >> the basis of a false claim, unsubstantiated. >> nothing substantiated. remember when comey and the fbi say we are going to reopen this investigation. they had nothing. >> hold on. they had access to a laptop. hold on. they had to go through it. >> they had agents right now looking into the information. >> i am saying there was an ongoing investigation of substance and important and they had to go through it and do a thorough investigation. >> they have an ongoing investigation right now into this information. >> there is no evidence suggest it's true whatsoever. >> and no evidence that suggest
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the charges against hillary were true. >> if you live by conspiracy theories, you are going to die by them. we found that ted cruz's dad helped kill jfk. obama's birth certificate isn't real. sooner or later a conspiracy theory might chase you. i think it would be great if both sides, right and left, reject all of these. conspiracy thinking -- conspiracy thinking are now called fake news. this is from the left, anti-trump. if you reject all of this stuff, that would be good for everybody. >> allow me to get this in. the president-elect asked about his dealings with russian president vladimir putin. when he describes as "an aspect." >> if putin likes donald trump, that's called an asset, not a liability. i don't know that i'm going to get along with vladimir putin. i hope i do, but there's a good chance i won't.
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if i don't, do you honestly believe that hillary would be tougher on putin then me? does anybody in this room really believe that? give me a break. >> how do you handle that? >> i think he was direct about it. he spoke to them and said think about it. no, i don't think someone is liking that someone is pushing against him. in vladimir putin tries to act up, he's not going to say hey, no problem. he's not that person. not in business, personal life, et cetera. i don't think vladimir putin thinks he's going to get away with anything with, then we'll be president trump. i think it was clear that vladimir putin, he got even read he was very angry with hillary clinton and the clintons in general for what happened before and so he said okay. here we go. >> putin also put out a statement saying this dossier is fake news. >> which you would expect.
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i think president-elect trump has to remind himself, why is putin powerful? he has no restraints against his power. it's easy to be the most powerful person in the country when you can do whatever the hill you want. >> he said in the news conference this morning that i think it was russia who did the hacking. everybody says that's great. that's in the past, the division between intelligence and donald trump. says later it could have been others. you think it could have been others. >> he set other people are hacking us, which they are. >> for a moment, he put trust in our intelligence agencies which have said that they believe russia hacked. >> how are we doing with the russian relationship? >> i don't know. there are hearings being held in the house and senate, so we'll see. the transitions between one
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administration to the next are inherently unstable times. i think they will have to see. usually it's not so much our president tries to drive forward an agenda about how he reacts to things that happen. i think that will tell us a lot. we're going to talk later about rex tillerson, secretary of state nominee, who god asked a lot of questions about russia today and handled it pretty well. can i say one thing about the press conference? i thought it was interesting to have sean spicer open it up with a strong statement against buzzfeed. i thought what they were trying to do is turn it over to donald trump would answer questions. got questions about russia and would say, i refer you to what sean said. let me break some news and drive forward on an agenda. not that he didn't have a successful press conference but i think he could have done that. >> we have more on the press conference. more on that i had. dramatic testimony today at the confirmation hearings for mr. trump's cabinet nominees. secretary of state nominee rex
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>> welcome back. far from president-elect trump's news conference today new york city. mr. trump about he will forge ahead with his plans to build a wall on the mexican border. >> i don't feel like waiting a year or a year and a half. going to start building. mexico will reimburse us, and they will reimburse us for the cost of the wall. that will happen. whether it is a tax or payment. probably less likely that it's a payment. it will happen. the government of mexico is terrific. i don't blame them for what happened. i don't blame them for taking advantage of the united states. i wish our politicians were so
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smart. mexico has taken advantage of the united states. >> he went on to say our politicians should not have allowed it to happen. for those of you that are saying oh, wait a second. i thought mexico was going to pay for it. listen, he said i don't want to wait to build it. i want to put it up now. he will find a way, he is saying so that mexico will pay for it. >> he said in october we will probably have mexico pay us back for the expense of the wall. i still have the solution to make them pay. import oil from mexico per day. a escrow and use it towards the wall. the money will go toward building the wall. it could take five years to build that wall or longer. pay for it that way. mexico can't sell their oil to anyone else at the same price. it doesn't hurt the market price of oil.
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>> the president of mexico just made a statement saying they are not going to pay for the wall. a little bit of ping-pong back and forth on this issue. >> i have a solution. have americans pay for the privilege of building the wall. imagine our grandparents might say i had a hand in roosevelt's knows on mount rushmore. this is like a wall, a monument that's horizontal. it is sponsored. if you voted for trump, a little plaque. >> on highways or park benches. >> sponsor wall segments and go doubt there -- go down there and visit your wall. that's my break down there. -- that's my brick down there. or an exercise routine, boot camp. send celebrities to build the wall. >> all right, fine. go ahead.
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>> no, i don't. >> what a tease. another funny part was when one of the reporter said your fence. he said no, no. it's a wall, big beautiful wall. dana, doesn't matter as long as it gets done? >> who pays for it? yeah, i think it matters. i think there will be a way to make it look like mexico paid for it. i don't know about that. i do think that the environmentalists are lying in wait and they will try to tie this thing up in the courts for a long time to try to deny him this accomplishment. >> i am glad you brought that up. there's a gentleman that is the lieutenant governor of california who announced that they would fight and sue the president on environmental grounds. >> i didn't know that, but i knew that. >> and they hired eric holder to
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help them figure that out. >> lots of nonsense. >> your big, beautiful door is the state of california. >> juan, what do you make of it? >> he is trying to backtrack and backfill with the wall. he wants to say he's done it. it is the same thing he is staying with obamacare. we will talk about it later but he said i'm going to do it, get it done right now. he doesn't know how to do it. three card monte is the way i think of it. he has previously said mexico is going to pay for the wall. eric had an idea. i don't think it's great. i think there is a worldwide market for oil. but i do think he's going to try to find some way to justify the idea to the american people aren't paying for it. as it stands right now, the american people, trump voters, will pay for that wall very >> but they should help build it. >> i like your idea.
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your idea struck me like tom sawyer. i've got to paint this fence but look how much fun i'm having. everybody come over and help. >> you get to go back to say this is a monument. >> bolling, you chip in a couple bucks. all right, next, did president obama take shots at president-elect trump during his farewell address last night? sounded like it. stay tuned. need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geico's emergency roadside assistance is there 24/7. oh dear, i got a flat tire. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!! well it's good... good for me. what do you think?
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have qualified as a third term. >> i do have one final ask of you is your president. the same thing i asked eight years ago. i am asking you to believe not in my ability to bring about change but in yours. yes, we can. yes, we did. yes, we can. >> it was a moving speech in the audience response equally movin moving. so if the obama presidency were of film, the speech would be the climax. all that is missing is the horse, the sunset, the rousing music as the title card meets the end. it was meaningful for millions but not for me because i'm a jerk. i am cynical about impassioned
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sentiment. part of the skepticism is due to the gap between how a person talks one-on-one and how they speak before a crowd. you realize how the latter relies on manipulation, soaring rhetoric that you forget about the gaps in truth. i want words to matter more than emotions which may be why trump is either seen as refreshingly real or coarse and rough. he is the obama opposite bread when he speaks before crowd, it's pretty much how he talks. blunt, raw, messy, louder. let's compare this. >> i leave this stage tonight even more optimistic about this country than when we started. because i know our work has not only help so many americans. it has inspired so many americans. >> to this. >> go ahead. go ahead. she's asking a question. don't be rude. don't be rude.
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>> can you give us a question? >> don't be rude. i'm not going to give you a question. you are fake news. >> the next four years, definitely going to be different. you might not get a thrill but haven't we had enough of that already? >> speak for yourself. >> that's not a thrill. >> there were some good parts to the speech. he talked about his family, that was very moving. >> i thought it was. there was a lot to work with. he's not going to be bullied and harassed by the press. certainly not a traditional approach but he's being consistent. his true self. he doesn't put up with it and he's not going to answer questions, going to go over here. it's a very vast departure from what people are used to but it's also something that was responded to resoundingly with all the people who voted for him and like the fact that they don't feel he's an insincere person. he tells it like it is.
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he's going to call you out if he thinks you are full of b.s. that's what he did today. if anybody thinks you're going to get something different, you're going to get what you saw. >> there were definite great moments to that speech. there was also stuff you've heard before. when he talks about his wife. >> i thought that was real and from the heart and i thought it might have been the highlight of the old speech when he spoke about the importance of his wife, his best friend. clearly got choked up. i'm not sure how his mother-in-law felt, mrs. robinson. she didn't get a shout out. the daughter and mother reacted from the heart. the other thing i would say is when he talked about race relations in this country and he said, you know, it's not cool that we place some people as more american than others or we only have a hard-working white middle-class. the minority and others trying to live off the vine. he is touching on something that is very real, especially at this
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moment. >> after eight years of being president, it's more real than ever. >> a couple observations. the echo. it really disrupted his deliver delivery. he's a wonderful speaker but if they didn't test that echo first, it was hard to watch at some points. there was a line in there that stuck out for me. he said "if something needs fixing, then lace up your shoes and do something." he said organizing. i think that means fixing, meaning the democrats and the trump administration. he will go back to organizing. >> back to his roots. >> what a touching, touching moment with his wife and daughter and for me, when joe biden was sitting there, massive emotion. >> that was a nice connection with joe. he called him his brother. there were also some nice words
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for his staff. >> i thought it was kind. such an emotional time for the staff in those last few weeks. you know you are about to be unemployed. you are never going to be with that team again. the president you've been loyal to them that you loved is being maligned by the other side and it's hard to watch. believe me. when he took a moment to give some reassuring words to his staff and thank them in front of everybody, that was really nice. >> what i liked best was when he said the thing about, you know, if you are sick of arguing with people online, get out and talk to them. get out of your bubble. i don't have an option because i see you guys every day. i must say i thought that was great. we were talking about the ratings for the speech last night. the democrats and the obama supporters watched. i'm not convinced that people who voted for trump watched that speech prey that shows you. people need to talk to each
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other paid >> when i thought was interesting, he kept saying yes, we can. but you've been in for eight years. you had your chance. you're going to go back to your community, grassroots organizin organizing. because he didn't get that done and he talked about forgotten men and women, in a wave, used different language. those are the people who came out for president-elect trump for they tried to rely on similar things. >> i think he is going to go from grassroots to grass skirts as he moves to hawaii. that's my prediction. i love macadamia nuts. they are so rich, aren't they? and expensive. were going to be doing a special hour, a special report, actually. the second hour is going to be on macadamia nuts. i had, confirmation hearings for secretary of state nominee rex tillerson. but the former exxon chief said about his ties to russia and vladimir putin's role in hacking the election. next on "the five" ."
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>> fireworks on capitol hill today. confirmation hearings for two of the president-elect's cabinet picks. rex tillerson was grilled on his ties to vladimir putin and on russia's interference with our election. >> do you believe these activities could have happened without the knowledge and consent of vladimir putin? >> i'm not in a position to be able to make that determination. >> significant business activities in russia so i'm sure you're aware of very few things happening in that country without vladimir putin's knowledge. is it possible for something like this involving the united states election to have happening without vladimir putin knowing about it. and authorizing it? >> i think that's a fair assumption. >> that he would have. >> there was dramatic testimony
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on the second day of hearings for attorney general nominee jeff sessions. cory booker, a democrat from new jersey, became the first sitting senator to testify against another sitting senator's nomination. he was joined by other members of congress raising concerns about a so-called history of racism. >> we cannot count on him to support efforts towards bringing justice to the justice system. the next attorney general must bring hope and healing to this country, and this demands a more courageous empathy than senator sessions' record demonstrates great >> those who are committed to equal justice in our society wonder whether ss for law and order will mean today what it meant in alabama when i was coming up. >> h senator who cast a vote to
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confirm senator sessions will be permanently marked as a co-conspirator in an effort to move the country backwards great >> you felt strongly about that. >> i know cory booker personally very well. i think it was disappointing to me. i felt he was pushed into this, much like that bizarre hostage video he had to do when he had to walk back his comments. this to me is really politics at its worst. you have a guy who would sit there and disparage someone who has really served our country and it's been a great leader in the civil rights movement in sessions. for him to sit there and try to become, like, the next guy to run against, to try to position himself in the party, that is what that was about. strip it down naked for that's what he did. he knows it, and it shows he's going to be able to be pushed to do whatever it takes pretty will say anything to get elected.
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to me, i find it very unattractive. >> do you have a different view, juan? >> i do. i think senator sessions has said himself he was no hero in the civil rights movement. he's never claimed that. >> self-deprecating. >> he is. he's a very nice man. >> writes. >> that's on a personal level. i think it's more of a situation where you get a guy from alabama, grew up in a strongly segregated state, knows the rules, knows how the game was played. he rose up in the political structure. now the question is, cory booker says, look at the votes he's taken in terms of violence against women, immigration reform. i could go on. not a big supporter in terms of voting rights and says he's not for us. he's not the kind of guy we think should be in the justice department. >> yesterday, weren't you saying that jeff sessions' testimony about the voting rights act were welcome. >> yes. what he said yesterday that he was going to enforce the law and
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he presented himself as a moderate. this is not the jeff sessions that's been voting in the senate floor was an early supporter of donald trump, as he was saying some very provocative things great >> i agree this is setting him up for whatever political future who wants. cory booker is a nice guy but you need three republicans were going to flip on sessions. i have no doubt that's not going to happen. sessions will go through. my concern was the marco rubio comments with tillerson. leaning on him pretty hard. i get it that you want to clarify period that is the kind of questioning and testimony that might get a republican to maybe change a vote. i hope it doesn't fit i am watching rex tillerson and i see a very successful guy with a lot of foreign policy experience in the business sector. i think you would be an asset to the united states and the state department. >> what did you think, greg? >> this is day two and there is no sign of improvement in the
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protesting. you can hear them and you go, this is the least persuasive way of getting your argument across. imagine doing that and movie theater. people will think you are mentally unstable. it makes you look bad. >> what they do? >> tell us. >> shouting and yelling. they were yelling and screaming. they scream, they yelled. reminds you of the weird people who sit next to on the subway and eat week old potato salad. trust me. they just set there. >> before we go, i want to say i thought tillerson and the liberals are celebrating tillerson because he said he's going to cut ties with his holdings in exxonmobil. by the way, trump said he's not going to, you know, do away with
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his business. he says there's no conflict of interest. >> before he go, there are many african-americans and civil rights leaders who do support jeff sessions. alabama. former obama administration surgeon general. more to come on "the five" in just a moment.
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>> back to the top news. president-elect trump's news conference this morning. another key topic, obamacare. >> we could sit back and wait and watch and criticize. and we could be a chuck schumer and sit back and criticize it and people would come. they would come begging to us, please, we have to do something about obamacare. we don't want to own it. we don't want to own it politically. they only act right now. the plan will be repealed and replaced.
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obamacare. we're going to have a health care that is far less expensive and far better. >> you liked this. >> i thought it was a great approach to the situation for him to put it in those terms which is to say we know that obamacare is failing and we see the spirals are coming. we could let the democrats own it but that would be irresponsible. we're going to try to do something. the news was he said there will be replacement as to hhs secretary nominee tom price is confirmed. or soon after that. i do wonder if the democrats might be willing to come to the table with him because of the other news he made at the top of the press conference which was about big pharma. he said it's been a democratic push. democrats want the government to negotiate with pharmaceutical companies for the cost of drugs. it's never gone anywhere. you have a republican president
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saying that's what he wants to put on the table. might bring some of those democrats, especially red state democrats to the table. could be a good strategy to get bipartisan support. >> kimberly, the democrats are still saying we don't see any replacement plan. what is he talking about? >> i do believe they're going to get it done rather quickly. i think this is going to be something where they are going to be good to go and there's going to be expediency is going to be important but not at the expense of quality. it must outperform, be competitive. embrace those free-market principles and along the lines of what dana said, this might be something that's a good point that help brings the other side to the table in terms of the democrats saying okay, maybe we can go with it. part of the negotiation. you have to try to get something. i think -- >> a lot of republicans are like whoa, slow down. we don't have a plan quite yet.
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>> this started on friday. rand paul said we don't want to own any of this. let's make sure we have something in place when we replace repeal it. we have spoken to people with knowledge of the situation. mr. trump liked the idea. rand paul said let me get something together, at least a blueprint. he will be presenting it and hopefully get some democrat support or input. i am guessing out but in the event, at least there will be something they feel is a better obamacare. >> do you support that idea? the pharma idea? >> i do. as you pointed out, right now, pharmaceutical companies can charge the government whatever they want their drugs, and the government can't go find a cheaper alternative. they have to buy it. >> conservatives have always said you know what? where the home of invention a new drugs. >> this is one of those areas
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where you can bring cost down with competition. >> greg, you go to the doctor a lot. what do you think? >> not when i'm sick. you've got to think about, what are you going to college? you get rid of obamacare. trump triage? something like that. >> we are going to have to have you go back to the drawing board. >> med donald's. >> one more thing.
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>> time for one more thing. >> you know what you're going to do after the inauguration. go back to d.c. on saturday, january 28th, dana, myself and the legendary larry gatlin will be performing at the warner theatre. saturday, january 28th. go to ticketmaster. there will be humor, insightful commentary, q&a, and perhaps line dancing. >> the white house lawn? >> if you go on match, you get shocked. >> short stories. >> i will be there. >> roy innis died at 82. the congress of racial equality.
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i want to send a salute to him and his son, who often appears on fox. she is one of the great black conservatives in america. black conservatives do not get much attention in our national discussion. roy innis began his career in the civil rights movement as a colleague of dr. king, roy wilkins, and others. he lost faith in the idea of forced integration and liberal policies like affirmative actio action. he supported nixon, bush. he lost two sons to gun violence and decided you know want, guns are a good thing in the black community. became an nra member. i want to say to the entire family and to black conservatives who were inspired by roy innis and the good he did, my heart is with you. stick a very nice god bless him. >> you know you like to plan
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ahead. preorder something that is coming out february 28th. a new book by george w. bush. "portraits of courage." general peter pace and laura bush both right forwards. the president has painted the portraits of wounded warriors who served under his command. it is compiled in this book. proceeds will go to the nonprofit organization to help with military research into ptsd. >> very good. we've been talking about this for a few days. take a look at this picture. cops portrayed as pigs and whatnot. representative william lacy clay, the congressman who represents ferguson, missouri, he has been getting this picture put back up. he put it back up after it's been taken down two or three times. in the u.s. capital. offended a lot of people and people said let's get it down. he penned an op-ed yesterday
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naming good friends of mine at ij are review. called them all type and right -- alt-right journalist. let's get paul ryan to take this picture downgrade will leave it at that. >> kimberly. >> important segment. >> kimberly. >> completely different dress. close enough. i've a very important dating tip. listen up. juan, your boys get it. here's the deal. date republicans. date republicans. recent study in the journal of public economics concludes the attractiveness of a candidate correlates with their politics. politicians on the right are
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more good-looking in europe, the united states, australia. how about that? >> men and women. >> yeah. >> set your dvr. never miss an episode of "the five" ." >> bret: president-elect donald trump defiantly denies news reports that the russians have embarrassing information about him in a fiery press conference filled news. this is "special report" ." ♪ good evening. i am bret baier. this is a two hour special edition of "special report." we are coming to live from daytona beach, florida. we are on the campus of embry riddle aeronautical university, the first stop of special report on the road this week. will explain more about this beautiful place later. we begin tonight with the long-awaited first news conference from president-elect

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