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>> these attempts to lessened the thousands am of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. there has been a lot of talk in the media about holding donald trump accountable. we are going to hold the press accountable as well. howie: the new president's inaugural adreams receives harsh reaction from the pundits. >> what matters is not which party controls our government, but whether our government is
controlled by the people. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> the mayor cash carnage must stop right here, right now. this was the speech an insurgent of the leader of a revolt that has won and taken control in washington and he intends to push that agenda. >> it was militant and it was stark. carnage, december repair, decay. i can't imagine the outgoing president giving a speech like that. >> this was not a conservative speech. there was nothing in here about paring back government at all. >> it was surprising as an inaugural address it was not an
inaugural address meant to bring the country together. >> it will go down in history as one of the most radical speeches ever given by a president. howie: what about the protests by the women's group. did it steal the coverage? i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." sean spicer made an unusual appearance in the briefing room and he unload on the press. >> one example a reporter falsely tweeted out that bust of martin luther king, jr. had been removed to from the oval office. after it was point out that this was just plain wrong.
the reporter tweeted out that a secret service agent must have been standing in front of it. this was irresponsible and reckless. howie: joining me. molly hemmingway and joe trippi. that was an extraordinary scolding by sean spicer. >> some people are calling it a press conference it's not a press conference if you don't take questions. the fact that he gave a statement and scolded the press on the first day is troubling. there are so many reporters who came out and said it was a chilling moment. it was really bad for them. howie: any administration has the right to push back. but does it make sense for
donald trump and sean spicer to mount an offense on the size of his crowd versus barack obama be crowd. >> it's true the media were utterly obsessed about making if the inauguration seem small and trying to denigrate everything that happened on inauguration day. what the administration is doing is saying we are not going to take this lying down. the media are years into a war on donald trump. >> some people believe this deflects attention from women's issues. this is the lead of every sunday show. does this battle overshadow what trump is trying to accomplish? without this fight, we are talking about executive orders and visiting the cia. >> it overshadows the most
important thing he said in his inaugural speech. the establishment let you down, it protected itself, it didn't protect you. it was a radical speech. that reporting is correct. that's what we should be debating. that was a very important thing for him to have said. and instead we are litigating crowd size. the resume have raised that. but when you go back into the briefing room and you are going to take the press on on that, it would be nice if the facts were on your side, like when you say the white plastic had never been used before. >> you are right about the speech being a declaration of war against the established order. a major part of the established order are the media. >> if you are going to take the war to the media, do it with
facts on your side. not with the magnetometer that stops the crowd from getting in and the secret service says that didn't happen. >> reporters were tweeting picture out, and there were some side stories. but then trump and spicer made it the main coverage the following day. it's very clear that president trump wanted the same coverage that barack obama got in 2009. but this is a different story. so he has the chance to create his own stories. howie: this is what obama did throughout the campaign where he would pick the fight with opponents or the media and he would dominate the covering. and there are media missteps. "time" magazine reporter zeke
miller posted on twitter that the martin luther king bust was taken out of the oval office and he was wrong. sean spicer said there was an obsession with the media to delegitimize this president. kellyanne conway got into it with chuck todd on "meet the press." >> i want to get back to a question you continue to deflect. why was it necessary for the press secretary to utter unprovable falsehoods? it will for many americans. >> you want them to hear that. you want them to hear that i'm not answering your questions, which i'm doing. you wanted them to believe they can't respect our press secretary. your job is not to call things
ridiculous that are said by our president and the press secretary. that's not your job. >> the media took it lying down for 10 years when the obama administration and hillary clinton said false things about benghazi. lied about the irs targeti conservatives. barack obama said if you like your healthcare plan you can keep it while millions of people lost their healthcare plans. a media that doesn't push back against that and then is take on sean spicer won't be taken seriously. howie: is it the job of an anchor or correspondent to challenge the administration when he or she believes there is something false, or are we getting caught up in what
americans see as a bunch of bull. >> which is why sending sean spicer in to actually pour gasoline on the charges is i think a mistake. and i think the press, how, once he does that, and literally i think there was on one thing he said that was true, and i can't remember what it was. everything else is proveably false about the magnetometers. the press -- you are declaring war, then you are saying here are the facts, and the press isn't going to come back wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, true? >> the "new york times" did a huge story based on crowd scientists from the protests yesterday to inauguration on friday. howie: you are lit getting
wehatting this like it's weapons of mass destruction. when you turned to covering of the speech, you saw those reviews, radical, dark, troubling. some pundits, what do you make of the divide there. >> i don't think it can be broken down. a conservative writer for the atlantic said it was with the worst inaugural address in history. that was probably going too far. howie: the "new york times" called the speech an angry jeremiah. it was -- everybody is entitled to an opinion. but this was pretty much pinned. >> too many people moved immediately to how the speech was going to play inteafd what it said. think is an important reason why
people need more diversity in newsrooms. that speech played differently to average americans. you have to have perspective from people who heard an inspiring call to unity. that's what they voted for and they said i'm going to do it. howie: chris matthews said it had hitlerian overtones because of the phrase "america first." this came up in the campaign. it has a different meaning from the pre-world war ii movement to keep this country out of the second world war. why go there and bring up something like hitler. >> i weren't agree with that language. but moll poll -- but molly is r.
the press is reacting to this as establishment and alarmed by what the president is saying. one of the things the media has to do a better job of. we have opinion people and we have news people. the opinion people all tend to cop out of the establishment right now and are reacting to him in a much different way than reporters. journalists who should be reporting the news and not stating opinions. howie: it was a very big target for this president. email us at email@example.com. we have bret baier and corey lewandowski coming up. [ crowd noise ]
howie: president trump visited the cia on his first day in office. >> as you know, i have a running war with the media. they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. they sort of made it sounds like i had a feud with the intelligence community. and i just want to let you know, the reason you are the number one stop, it's exactly the opposite. howie: did the media conjure up a feud between donald trump and the intelligence community? >> it was not fictitious. donald trump tweeted and talked
about his dislike of what was happening in terms of intel chiefs leaking information against him. howie: even suggesting obama's last cia chief john brennan, was this the leaker of fake news? this is the unsubstantiated dossier. >> there was a war between the intel chiefs and donald trump. the intel chief through leak. the media did portray a lot of this as if he was at war with the intelligence community. there are a lot of rank and file intel officers who were extremely displeased with the politicized nature of this leaked campaign which was very unprofessional by these chiefs. howie: the new president goes to the cia to show it poshes to him in his first visit. but once again it's about the media. >> going there was good, but i
do think it was news when he started talking about how many times he was on "time" magazine's cover and crowd size. that takes away from the main message, what he was trying to do, i think. howie: this is not a teleprompter president. he's still fighting the elect and basking in the glow of his victory. instead of the headline being trump blames media for intelligence feud that he says we have exacerbated order cooked up. >> he said he was at war with the media at the cia, the first full day in office. that line alone is a problem. howie: why? maybe he is at war with the press that they don't trust. >> is it the right message for day one? i think it make it harder for a
lot of the press to have an open mind. i have an open mind about covering president trump. but i think he made it harder for the entire press to do it. we are not getting into some of the more important lines in his inaugural address. i think the most important line when he said we are going to eradicate islamic terrorism from the face of the earth. that was a huge statement. we'll be holding him to account the next for yours on that. howie: trump versus the media and crowd size. it burns brightly in washington, his comments, his speech you believe is heard differently in what i'll call the heartland. taking this media war. media are engaged in a proxy war, too. their attacks are viewed as attacks on them.
the media have no objectivity. they are reviled, and people understand that the media seems to revile them. them. when donald trump is talking about going to war with the media, they are sick of the media. howie: donald trump and barack obama have startling different views of the media. corey lewandowski will be here. . this is one gorgeous truck. oh, did i say there's only one special edition? because, actually there's 5. aaaahh!! ooohh!! uh! holy mackerel. wow. nice. strength and style. which one's your favorite? (laughter) come home with me!
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obama's last press conference, he spoke of the press. you are not supposed to be sycophants, or be complimentary, but you are suppose to cast a critical eye on those who hold power. >> what about twitter? are you going to continue to tweet? >> yes. i don't like tweeting. i have other things i could be doing. but i get very dishonest media, very dishonest press. howie: what do you make of the contrast between the obama sendoff and all those specials on tv, the "new york times" writing about what books he likes, and the trump transition, i would say he received no honeymoon. >> two completely different approaches by the media towards these two distinctly different people.
the way they handle themselves in public. and the media responded accordingly. weak investigation and eavesdropping. >> they were spying on reporters. james rosen here at fox news. that's what's interesting about this. he called the obama administration the greatest threat to freedom in generations. the way they cracked down on whistle blowers, and tried to keep foia requests from going through. he did have this reputation that was not talked about much and it was not pressed on it much. and they had a friendlier relationship. howie: sean spicer was talking about moving the press room to larger quarters.
trump settled that in a "fox and friends" interview. >> the press briefing room, are you going to move it? >> we'll move it to a larger room and the press went crazy. but some people in the press will not be able to get in. howie: did the media win that skirmish? >> i don't think the outcome is clear yet. i think the trump administration as kellyanne conway said this morning wants to change the terms of the relationship between the press and the president. clearly there is a war going on between the press and trump. we can argue all day who started it, who fault it. i don't know anyone right now who can say honestly that the press is going to fairly cover this president. it seems to me they have set themselves up as the edge any of trump. i read their twitter feeds. i saw the inaugural coverage.
it doesn't seem fair to me. that's why trump is trying to redefine things. howie: let's talk for a moment about the impact. pew research did a follow. trump voters 40% said fox was their main source. cnn8%, facebook 6%. hillary clinton cnn, 18%. hillary clinton voters were more diverse in their viewing habits. but a lot of trump voters watch fox. >> a lot of people were watching fox news for the coverage because as trump supporters you turn on cnn and msnbc and they are talking about a dark speech,
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trump who was a master at controlling the narrative and the oxygen we talk about, the topic the next day. look at every sunday show. every single one, and the lead in large part of it had to do with that press briefing. crowd size. the thought about the press versus donald trump. what was not in there. there was not a lot of folk fuss on these massive protests around cities in this country and around the world. at least on the lead of these sunday shows. howie: meanwhile they will get the story line they wanted. and at the same time people out there, those who are sympathetic to donald trump would move for him against us. bret were wus. bret: we are not a sympathetic bunch.
i think they want to break the china and shake things up. this is part of their strategy. it's an interesting day one. howie: does this change the tone with sean spicer? bret: that may not have been how he thought he was going to start with his first briefing, and that wasn't a briefing, it was a statement. i covered the white house and there is a relationship there, and sean has a great rapport with a lot of these reporters heading in. does that change that? i don't think so. but if it continues like that all the time, it would change the dynamic. >> many of us knead to get a thicker skin. sometimes it's warrant. so you were down in the mall co-anchoring the inauguration. paint was a pretty remarkable speech whether you liked it or
didn't like it. was this inauguration different from your anchor chair from the others you covered or watched in that protest and even some on the right not liking the speech? donald trump is almost like an independent candidate who has taken on both parties. bret: this is part of the completion of the takeover of the republican party. it's not a hostile takeover because people went willingly in part because of the actions of the obama administration and the action or inaction of republicans in the past. this was donald trump, this is what they wanted. a souped up inaugural version of a campaign speech. but that fit what they are looking to do, that is, change washington at its core in in that sense it felt very different. as far as the coverage it was great to work alongside martha
and we did let it breathe a lot. we talked about letting natural sound tell the story. the transfer of power is one of the most sacred things we have in america, and to let people hear that natural sounds was important. howie: in your book about ike, he had a powerful press secretary who had a good relationship with reports. president eisenhower thought he was too open with the press. bret: he had a heart attack in 1955 in office. eisenhower tells haggerty, be as transparent as possible and put all the health records out that you can. transparency doing fine. but i can do without the updients my bowel movements. he was the first one to put
transcripts on the record. before that you couldn't quote directly a president. you could go to news conferences and ask questions, but you couldn't quote directly. take it for -- tape it for radio and television. it's the first live news conference where the fourth estate is questioning the president. howie: eisenhower was the pioneer. bret: he was not the best at delivery or phrasing but reporters were using that, gobbling up saying he was still ited in his delivery. howie: you interviewed president trump a few times. i interviewed him a few times. there is a line here where journalists need to hold him as
accountable. >> there is a line to be challenging and challenge facts. and then be cheering for them not to do well or appear like you are on one side. and clearly, the coverage of the campaign we saw elements of that. and opinion writing on front pages, and very aggressive coverage. so they have the upper hand right now, the trump administration, and we'll see where it goes. howie: bret baier, good to see you. next on "mediabuzz," i'll tangle with corey lewandowski in just a moment. mom, i just saved a lot of money on my car insurance by switching to geico. i should take a closer look at geico... you know, geico can help you save money on your homeowners insurance too? great! geico can help insure our mountain chalet!
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howie: corey lewandowski was with donald trump from the beginning serving as his campaign advisor. he joins us on this inaugural weekend. how important do you think it was for him to spend the first day in office arguing about crowd size. >> it's very important to president trump that he has a fair opportunity.
if the media can't report fairly that the bust of martin luther king, jr. is still in office, what makes you think it will be fair going forward. if they are not going to be fair, there will be a recourse. howie: is this a calculated strategy in we are hearing insiders say he needs a target and he can't beat up on hillary clinton. the press is a big bad target, particularly for his supporters. he wants to accomplish a lot of things for the american people. renegotiate our trade deals. he's not going to get a fair shot with any of those people in the media. >> the more time we collectively spend talking about the pundits he doesn't like. or the crowd size or mistakes
the press has made, that that leaves less air time and less print issues and less oxygen for what you are saying, trade, obamacare, the reasons he was elected. could he be said to be stepping on his message? give hip the opportunity. i think the disappointing part, we saw 60 members of the democratic party boycott the inauguration. we need a fair and balanced media. where is the resource on that media outlet. clearly a false narrative. why don't we fire the press person for being false? there is no accountability in the media when we say things other than mea culpa. we won't do it again. howie: reince priebus said on fox news sunday * that the media
are obsessed with delegitimizing his presidency. >> june 26, 2015, donald trump came down that famous escalator. ever since that day they have not taken him as a serious candidate until 5:00 on election day when they said he couldn't win. he won the greatest victory since ronald reagan in the electoral college for a republican. howie: my question is do you believe now we have president trump for the next four years, that journalists are r do you thinkrying to undermine there is a couture clash? >> the media research center did
an analysis. 96% of the american people didn't let the media bias impact how they vote. it used to be that people got their news from three men every night. but now they get their information from donald trump on twitter. that's his opportunity to make sure his mess and is clear. howie: conservative pundits are continuing to attack his speech. can he foreign a working relationship? he did go to the "new york times." could you see thing cooling down and a little less of hostility? >> i think so. what i know about mr. trump is he want to have a great relationship with the media. i have seen in those private meetings with many reporters who are fair and candid with hip.
when you bring him in close and he has an opportunity to sit down with hip. you saw him as the president-elect go to those interviews. howie: do you believe the media is largely anti-trump. >> what happens with some of the media is they have run with the story that proved to the nobody true. "buzzfeed" writes a story that was wholly and factually unverified. when people turn on the television, they are look at it sceptically saying is this reporter trying to make the news or reporting the news. they want to write books about their time traveling on the trump campaign because it's good for them. howie: when you signed on with donald trump in early 2015, do
you think he would be celebrating his inauguration this weekend? >> i'm not so sure about that. but i am happy about the way thing turned out. howie: corey lewandowski, great to see you. after the break. wall-to-wall coverage on some cable news channels on the women's protests around the country. we'll take a look.
nonstop coverage of the women's protests. cnn head lines, women's mars across the country send message to trump. >> i don't think it was overplaying. yesterday was pretty big news. you can get into did they overcover and fox under, and probably both of those arguments are correct in my view. howie: mollie hemingway, you had celebrities, you had madonna talking about blowing up the white house. she dreamed of doing this. i didn't see a lot of anchors coming on saying it's a reprehensible thing to say. >> it's not just how much coverage you are giving, but how you describe what's happening. but cnn reported it as rejecting
hate and divisiveness for hope, love and unity. journalists on air described the marches being that way. it's ignoring these mars included a variety of issues messages that were violent and vulgar. howie: she dropped the f bomb on cnn. lawrence o'donnell tweeted why should the networks protect the public against word we all use. >> we are supposed to [bleep] those words out. howie: it's hard when you don't have a script and it's live coverage. >> what happened yesterday was unusual. it was the day after the inauguration. it exceeded expectations of what the numbers were suppose to be. i think a lot of the coverage
was quite gauzy. why were these marches happening. where is all this energy going to go? where was it before? what's the end goal here. howie: people have the right to protest. but we just had an election. it's not entirely clear to meet other than they don't like donald trump. friday there were protest alleys, and alec baldwin who plays the president on "saturday night live" spoke and listen to what he said. >> these people are a disgrace. they are a disgrace. to everything you and i believe in. howie: he doesn't leak the guy. >> yesterday was more than just a story in the united states. these rallies were happening in london and berlin, across the world. also there were a lot of differences in what the speakers were saying. van jones said that he hated the
fact with all this love trump hate talk, there was so much talk going on at these rallies that was hateful towards trump. but i ageist was gauzy and some of that didn't get covered. howie: friday you had some of those people setting cars on fire and smashing windows. and larry king's car. here is give jenkins reporting on -- here is griff jenkins reporting on that. there is always a question of how much play do you give that. >> the visuals are very exciting. i saw people expressing, editors saying this should be covered more on what was happening on trump's first day at president. it seems we need to keep that
perspective. it's more important what the president is doing, signing if nomination forms as oppose to a couple hundred people. howie: still to come, one trump appointee drops the out, and some final thoughts on this final weekend. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? yes, yes! live whole. not part. aleve.
to me, not just the protests and the democrats who boy cod. but the vitriol that continued on social media. some pundits seeing the president's speech as populist and others seeing it as dark. there will be plenty of talk for twitter wars. but the news media has to hold trump accountable without sliding into unfair negativity and cheap shots. that's it for this inaugural edition of "mediabuzz." email us, firstname.lastname@example.org. and check out my new segment on the "tucker carlson" show.
[♪] reporter: jobs, trade and immigration all on the agenda, but this weekend the president is focused on other matters address the millions of people worldwide who came to protest his policies. eric: president trump scoffing at some of the protesters on twitter. this is what he tweeted. watched protests yesterday but was under the impression we just had an election. why didn't these people vote?