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you. kills you, doesn't it? good night. >> hello, everyone. i am dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling, greg gutfeld. this is "the five." president trump takes action, signing two more executive orders. while on the border with mexico that was a signature campaign promise. the other for sanctuary cities. the president says his actions will save thousands of lives, millions of jobs, and billions of dollars. he delivered remarks of the department of homeland security. >> we are in the middle of a crisis on our southern border.
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the unprecedented surge of illegal migrants from central america is hiring both mexico and the united states, and i believe the steps we will take, starting right now, will improve the safety and both of our countries. it's going to be very, very good for mexico. a nation without borders is not a nation. beginning today, the united states of america gets back control of its borders, gets back its borders. >> just as we went to eric, eric, apparently the statement from the government of mexico says that president enrique pena nieto is rethinking his trip. apparently it's coming across that he is considering canceling. i imagine he won't and that he will come. i remember during the campaign you said it was the one thing he was going to have to do right away, announce something about
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the wall. he's making good on the campaign promise today. >> and my talking points going into the show was it's very interesting. enrique pena nieto is coming january 2,031st someone is going to ask him who is going to pay for the wall. someone is going to have to say he won. there is a great out for trump. he can say one of his campaign promises was to either renegotiate nafta or kill it completely great he may be able to find a way to renegotiate nafta, state and after, and have mexico pay for the wall and come out and say look, i did both of these things. may want to do that. we have a massive trade imbalance with mexico. they benefit from us being our e biggest trading partner.
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>> mexico was thinking about a preemptive strike and that they would leave nafta first. >> you go, we are out of nafta. >> doesn't work that way. it's not like with the things he's done, the low-hanging fruit he's been having fun with. he can get out of the pacific trade agreement because we are not in it yet. nafta has a treaty that's been approved by the united states senate. he can't just say were not going to have nafta. >> bob, will talk about the wall. >> well, the mexicans have about as much chance of paying for that wall as greg does of not having a glass of wine. it's not going to happen. what's going to happen is the american taxpayers are paying for trump's wall which is a ridiculous concept anyway.
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he is taking money out of parts of the budget to start building something. >> but the wall come in 2006, there was language passed in legislation that said a wall could be built and there were certain sections of it and some of it has been done. this is the day that his supporters really wanted. >> he should have combined all the actions into one think he should get the syrian refugees to build a wall around chicago. do it all. chicago is a sanctuary city. you hear the wall about building a 20-foot wall, there will be 2. the old the ladders. trump just created more jobs in mexico. the latter building industry will take off. in the tunnel industry. he is making mexico great again. >> he said it was going to be good for mexico. >> i think a lot of these things, there are so many of
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them. increasing i.c.e. border patrol coming getting rid of sanctuary cities is not not an impositio. these are not things that cause people heartache. they are not an imposition. they are reasonable. it probably seems overwhelming to liberals that they are happening one after the other and they are going oh, my god. make it stop. if you look at them separately, it's okay. >> this guy has given me more material into days that i had in four years. >> no wonder you are so happy. >> i love this guy. >> used to be a prosecutor. what can the federal government do to try to stop it? >> they are not in actual compliance with the federal law. if it was my decision and i was in one of these places i would say don't give the funding to the cities.
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it's complicated. there's ways to get around it. they're going to try to make a political point because of their constituents in the area and set an example. you've seen a number of places in our largest cities signing on to say they will not abide by it and they do not agree with president trump. they don't get to pick and choose which laws they want to follow. to adhere to, and if you're not going to be in compliance then there has to be some kind of penalty for that. >> what money is he going to take away from the sanctuary cities? >> almost everyone of these sanctuary cities gets border control money. he can pull back, not a whole heck of a lot of money but you can tie other money to it. >> i'm willing to wager the sanctuary cities will continue to be. >> i don't know. let's listen to him. let's go to the sound bite when he talks about, get the bad ones
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out fast. >> we are going to get the bad ones out, the criminals and the drug deals and gangs and gang members and cartel leaders. the day is over when they can stay in our country and wreak havoc. we are going to get them out and were going to get them out fast and john kelly is going to lead the way. >> kimberly, sean spicer was asked about the dreamers, these are the children brought to america illegally by their parents. president obama said please consider these are innocent people. the priority apparently is going to be on the criminals and trying to get them out first. >> of course. that's consistent with what he said all along. he's not trying to deport and send away people who are law-abiding. of course they are going to prioritize. you're going to say in terms of triage, what are we going to do. were going to start right away with the people that are the criminal recidivists that come
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back in like a revolving door into the country. violate the laws, commit felonies, commit murders, that's got to stop. why would anybody be against taking out criminals, bob? gang members and murderers and rapists, people who commit horrible violence. >> listen. the idea, you make it sound like nothing's been done but i'm here now and were going to start doing this. they've been deporting criminals for the last 15, 20 years. >> no, they haven't. >> last year they deported 60,000. >> >> that's a lot of people. how is trump going to get the other -- >> there are 14 million illegals. 2 million have criminal records. 60,000 we got rid of. >> how's it going to get rid of the others?
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>> when they are caught, you send them back. president obama didn't do that. he didn't do that. he let them stay. >> you are done with obama. you're on to trump. >> he is the gift that keeps on giving. >> the law is set up to do it. you have to have a president and border security and i.c.e. >> there has to be enforcement at local levels. >> you have to uphold the law. >> do you think obama said don't let -- >> he said were not going to deport them. >> you've been listening to trump too long. >> i don't know the numbers in terms of deportations. >> the recidivists, have them build the wall. send them down, have them build a wall like the old-fashioned chain gangs. you were for chain gangs. i think you are in one.
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>> i was. >> striped suits, chain gangs. it's like making america great again. >> when are we going to talk about the ban -- >> next segment. >> people said he wasn't going to build a wall, wasn't going to make mexico pay for it, not going to end sanctuary cities. he is telling you he's going to do all these things. >> he's not going to build the wall. mexico is not going to pay for it. do you think they're going to a great pay for it? >> i don't think they have a chance. >> you want to change nafta. it's going to affect canada. >> my solution is don't call it a wall. call it a mexican american friendship monuments. it's like mount rushmore. >> left the starving artists.
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>> welcome back. president trump taking action today to keep one of his more vocal campaign promises to keep america safe with immigration orders, white house think we can see more action this week. being reported that the president will issue orders to dramatically restrict the number of refugees we are taking in from muslim countries along with
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suspending visas from people from seven countries in the middle east. the left is already going berserk. >> the idea that he is going to shut out refugees, shutting out. there are 8 million children in the world right now who are refugees. if you shut out syrian refugees at this moment it's like shutting the jews out during world war ii. >> bob. candidate trump promised he was going to do something along these lines. >> listen, every day i get up and keep saying to myself thank god we have president trump. let me ask one question. seven countries. you know who is not there? the country who underwrites all the money for terrorist, that is the saudi's. how about the fact, training in pakistan or afghanistan. the reason we are not taking saudi arabia at is because they
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give us too much money. the point is, he picked the easiest countries he could possibly pick. he chickened out as usual on countries that are really responsible for terrorist. >> iraq, 15,000. >> saudi arabia. >> we had 116,000 refugees we took in last year. >> yes. here's the problem. cokie roberts is making a statement, assuming that it's the united states obligation globally to take in all the refugees. making that statement about the jews. it's absolutely unbelievable to me because the two are completely dissimilar. it's an overstatement, exaggerating to make a point and then fails ultimately by doing so. why is it a problem to actually do come again, what he promised as a candidate, to say he's going to be a little bit measured and circumspect in terms of who we allow in this
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country. there's absolutely nothing wrong from a national security perspective to be able to actually determine who is coming into the country, what is their background. what is their real identity? as we know, in the middle east, they are not able to fully vet and verify the identity, let alone the age of some of the people coming over. why do we have to have an open door? >> dana, your thoughts. >> i think it's important to point out it's a moratorium, not a band. the wording is important. the moratorium allows you some time to figure out, who do we have coming in and also deal with something kimberly alluded to. the paperwork and many of these countries is suspect. it is not solid in terms of passports, birth certificates, things like that. i wonder what we would be willing to do to solve problems at home to prevent refugees from wanting to flee anyway.
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i don't see anything coming forward on that but i do think you can be reasonable and responsible in this approach is that you can be both vigilant and compassionate. it's going to take some time to figure out how to do it all. >> why don't the muslim countries taken some of these refugees as well? >> overboard about using that comment about hitler and. >> cokie is not -- we should accept that tired and the weary and the poor but we don't have to accept the terrorist. that's why it's an emphasis on temporary and not permanent. we want people to come here to seek a better life but we need a better system to ferret out those who pretend to be seeking a better life who are actually trying to end our lives.
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we are trying to avoid the mistakes germany made. it was like she invented a drug and didn't testing on the population. she opened the gates she didn't have a system. that's like creating a drug and not testing it. >> not having a clinical trial period >> you have the consequences and you can't get that drug off the street. you have a sizable sum based on statistics of possible terrorists among refugees. by the numbers, that is the case. >> think about paris and london. the muslim communities are in ghettos and they never try to integrate with them and they become, as many do, become criminals. europe has done a terrible job. they have absorbed a lot of muslims. done a terrible job bringing a melting pot together. >> what you are seeing in europe is directly related to how the migration was approached by
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angela merkel. >> too heavy of a focus on multiculturalism. >> hillary promise, 100,000 syrian refugees, some number like that. we took in 17,000 syrian refugees. you have completely to different competing ideologies on refugee programs. >> i grew up with a family that did a lot with lutheran world relief and refugee resettlement in denver. i've got personal stories in terms of how america can change people. at that time, though, that was people leaving the soviet union and the oppression of communism. this is an added complexity because you do have this sizable sum of potential terrorists within this refugee population. my heart is very upset for the children but that's why i ask, if were not going to accept them here, what are we willing to do to help them and solve the problem? >> that is part of the thing he talked about during the
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campaign. let's help address some of these issues in their own country so that you don't transport the problem here, especially when we have terrorist groups saying that one of the ways they are going to become a funnel in radical islamic terrorists, trying to infiltrate the refugees coming into the country and into europe. >> hundreds of thousands of orphaned children out there who have no place to go. we could take them and we should. >> what about the genocide of christians that's happening? >> in terms of the moratorium on syrian refugees, does that include syrian christians? they have been targeted. there is still a lot to be found out. >> it has to. it's a country of origin, not a religion. it should be called a not moratorium not a more moratorium. >> claiming millions of illegals voted.
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♪ >> there's no question president trump was a clear winner of november's election but he still maintains millions of people voted illegally, costing him the popular vote. he wants the government to look into it. he says i will be asking for a major investigation into voter fraud including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal, and those registered to vote who are dead and many for a long time. depending on results we will strengthen voting procedures. democrats in the mainstream media are dismissing the president's concerns. >> seems to be questioning the legitimacy of his own election. for the last couple months, touting how legitimate and huge his election was and how historic it is.
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it can't be both. >> i frankly feel very sad about the president making this claim. i felt sorry for him. i prayed for him. but then i prayed for the united states of america. >> oh, my goodness. prayers from nancy pelosi for the president about this. she is distressed, eric. >> yeah. on the voter fraud thing, trying to figure out what is the benefit other than having a lot of news, generate news and keep things going. maybe look over here, shiny object over here while i get a bunch of other things going on. honestly, i don't know. he won. you won. let it go. let them worry about it in four years. sick of bob. >> listen. -- 20 years in the business. there have been major
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investigations. pew research has done a huge story. total number of people in the election four years ago that were fraudulently voted were nine prayed he says 3 to 5 million. he's out of his mind. true may be in chicago they voted a few times. that's all right. it's a lot of people. why doesn't he let it go? the 3 million. he's going to try to convince people he had the biggest inaugural in the history of human time and the second is hillary sold the 3 million votes she beat him by. >> the investigation came after a day of confusion. i don't think it was planned in terms of provided distraction. it crowded out some of the great moments where he's got the union
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leaders in your war are happy. moving forward on keystone. he's not alone, republicans losing the popular vote. six of the seven presidential elections we've had, the republican has lost the popular vote. he can do that with some of the things he's promised. other than that i think that the left sees this as a prelude for huge rebel can effort from voters suppression and they will fundraiser off it and it will be a big. you are looking at me because you know that's exactly what they left is planning to do. >> were going to do everything we can every day. >> the guy is a gift that keeps on giving. >> the left should be praising him for this. to say i'm opening an investigation on the election i won. you get it if you lost like eric
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said. he won. i still want to get to the bottom of this even though i'm in the white house prayed could you argue that's brave? you are shaking your head. >> that will be the case if that was what they said. if they were pushing back on the notion that there are studies and he will call for an investigation. >> they all went and chased it. if you watch cable news, every single left-leaning mainstream media is going, can you believe what he just said? >> cnn had it on all day long as breaking news. >> yesterday i was to do o'reilly. they said were going to change it and lead with this. it wasn't alternative media. we did it here too. >> serious intrusion in the election by the russians. he knows it. >> the trump thing did the right
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-- trump team did the right thing pushing back. they made a convincing case that the election was legitimate. if he had concerns like he voiced in october that it was going to be widespread voter fraud, if you believe it in october but not in november and there is reason for confusion. >> we found out there was voter fraud. >> they said mr. president, serious intercepts we got. they were involved in the election. >> one thing i think it's important about "the five" and us here is nobody is agreeing with donald trump and we are showing you don't have to agree with everything he says. it's not a loyalty test every time he says something. when he said there is 3 million fraudulent votes, you can still like the guy ago, that is b.s. he is surrounded by a lot of people that go, do we agree or not? will i lose my job? it doesn't have to be -- you can
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say lighten up. it's not. you won. >> does somebody say, mr. president. >> of course. yes. he has some of the best advisors around him. he may continue to do what they advise him not to do. that is the trump administratio administration. we have one boss, that's our viewer, not trump. we don't have to agree with him all the time. >> ahead, america's most infamous protester is back out again. this time, john jane fonda is t fond of president trump. what's the status?
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♪ >> somehow jane fonda flew to new york city tuesday to protest the renewed construction of oil pipelines. if only they were antiaircraft guns aimed at our troops, i'm sure she would feel differently. >> today the president issued an executive order calling for the completion of the north dakota pipeline. he does this illegally because he has not gotten consent from the tribes through whose country and this goes. the u.s. has agreed to treaties that require them to get the consent of the indigenous people who live there. >> in between relationships in treason, she's an expert in
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pipeline safety. everything is a script. fonda is trying to defend the indigenous people. she aware the indigenous already transport oil from their wells over reservation land by train or that the indigenous already have eight pipelines under a nearby lake or that they have met with the u.s. army corps of engineers hundreds of times. the only indian jane fonda likely met was tonto. is she aware that the dakota pipe doesn't cross any tribe own land, it's safer than rail and it's a fraction of the pipe used to help fuel jane's jet set lifestyle. almost all of the dakota protesters are about as indigenous as a twinkie. anti-fossil fuel fanatics trucked in. they don't give two poops about indians. they wish to drive up dissent. they've done it before. they will do it again. it is time to show them it's a
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pipe dream. >> do you know these protesters left behind, ironically, left behind mountains of garbage and human feces. >> you have such an obsession with that. >> these people are disgusting. >> they have a human condition, don't they? >> we all do. >> you especially. >> she wants to become relevant again. that's what this seems to mean. >> she just broke up with a fella and she wants to devote her time to activism. >> we have explained it all. it's not really doing any good. she seems a little foolish. when you look at the facts and circumstances, she is wrong. this is essentially just her trying to get some attention. it is erroneous. >> there are millions of miles of pipeline, already pipeline there. is it a political battle, not about native americans? >> no, greg.
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by the way, compost. >> you make a lot of it. >> i spend a lot of time on indian reservations in casinos. they have made a fortune on casinos. good for them. i'm all for it. >> how do you get the casinos? -- how do you get to casinos? oil for your car. >> i flew in and lost a lot of money. >> what's your point? >> no one knows. >> the idea of this fight over something that's not going to stop it, does not have the implications they say it does. when they talk about the indigenous people, these people building casinos left and right. good for them. >> eric, thoughts. >> the easiest way to transport oil, the safest way in the cleanest way is through pipelin pipeline. the alternative literally is a rail car, truck, or a ship. any one of those can spill,
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crash, creating more of an environmental hazard. very quickly. 28,000 jobs, $3 billion in economic activity per year and hundreds of millions of dollars of tax revenue. should be happy about that, liberals. >> the market sure loves it. >> the other thing, it's amazing how much oil and gas instructor on this country every day and shipped around and there's no accidents. i give them a lot of credit for that. >> dana, it is about fossil fuels. they don't care if it's a pipeline or a train. >> everything is about climate change, everything. what i think, i know that the department of the interior is already reaching out to the tribes and i think that if the tribes look at this and think it's going to happen anyway, then they should tried to cut a deal because they would be able
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to get a better deal under president trump than they would have with president obama. >> they are 90% there. >> 20 applications for casinos sitting there. that's a good deal. stickel would got to move on. at yesterday, emanuel's pathetic rant. liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance
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potential. this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> yes, sir. president trump caused the big star with that remark during his inaugural address. he is not backing down from it. last night he issued this in a tweet. if chicago doesn't fix the horrible carnage i will send in the feds. rahm emanuel lashed out at the president earlier this week but said he is willing to work with him today. >> chicago like other cities that are dealing with gun violence wants the partnership with federal law enforcement entities in a more significant way than today. i would welcome, always have, welcome federal participation in working with local law enforcement to dealing with guns and gangs. the president has offered and
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repeated that he wants to offer federal help as it public safety. i'm going to take him up on that offer. >> you should do that. eric, let me ask you. are we going to expect the 101st airborne? >> noteworthy that rahm emanuel changing his tune from earlier in the week. what federal help will he accept? funds? will he accept, i don't know, national guard on dangerous corners, dangerous neighborhoods in chicago? probably not. i can imagine that the political campaign against rahm. can't get his own house in order, needs the national guard. >> the last time they took the national guard, it was in this is to be when they had the riots. the president can federalize the national guard. the illinois national guard in fact could go into chicago.
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if that is what trump is talking about, it may make some sense. the history is not very good. quick. i was quick. >> it is still yours. >> sorry. stickel all right. i said they are not homicides they are rahm-icides. he should step aside but he won't do it. he is so fearful of acting, being seen politically as evil or racist because he is dealing with minorities and he doesn't want to look anti-minority by being pro crime so he's always taking the back foot. i think he should step aside, new blood. >> taking on the gangs in los angeles, '60s, '70s, '80s. did they use the national guard? 's to go i was like a year old. but they do there is to have a very effective gang task force.
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i worked as a prosecutor in los angeles. they have a developed program. they have people assigned to the areas, cops worked there. they work with informants. you have to have a active community policing, gang task force. in terms of working with the das office. also stop and frisk. you have to implement all of these things. i tell you want. it's not going to make rahm emanuel look good if president trump has to come in and to the dash fix the problem he has in his city. >> what mayor would not accept federal assistance? >> remember hurricane katrina? that was the mayor and the governor fighting to say they didn't need federal help, they could handle it. the law that goes back to the feds. i don't think this is going to get to the point i think rahm emanuel's thinking is not national guard troops.
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it's additional resources from gang units, the fbi. if the police don't feel supported by local officials there's not a lot the federal government can do. >> there you go. we've got sad news. i thought we weren't going with that. we lost another entertainer. legend today. actress mary tyler moore passed away at age 80. a tribute to the tv icon next. ♪
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♪ >> it is time for one more thing. >> if you were born in the 1960s like i was then you were raised in the 1970s which meant that you loved mary tyler moore. probably one of the greatest sitcoms of all time. the original "seinfeld." honest, rich, funny. it was a great show and she was amazing. here's a montage of some of her best. she passed away at 80. >> i was in bed. >> oak, good. then you are alone. >> you know what? you've got spunk. >> well. >> i hate spunk. >> ♪ one for my baby and one
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more for the road ♪ >> sing out. >> ♪ that long, long road >> she was amazing. that show spawned so many other shows. lou grant, phyllis, rhoada. that defined the 70s for me. that was before "the love boat." >> "love boat was my favorite show. >> you are the cruise director. >> i'm the bartender. >> friday, february 3rd, i get to do something i want to do for
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so long. i'm going to nashville, tennessee, . i'm going to be there, i hope you meet me. i would love to meet you in nashville. greg and dana, short stories this weekend. i think there's a few tickets left in washington, d.c. there may be a guest appearance by somebody else in the on the table. >> bob. it's >> kellyanne conway , great outfit she wore. she came out, she said, in defense of the press secretary that there were alternative facts when donald trump said more people came to my inauguration then in history. the pictures proved he was dead wrong as usual. kellyanne conway comes out and says alternative facts. alternative facts are lies.
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think about that. she got interviewed by nbc. these people live in george orwell's 1984 which is now the sixth biggest selling book in the united states after she said that. supreme control over people. >> we get it. we got your points. >> that happens when there is an election. people buy it. >> kimberly. >> she is not sweating you. me either. it's time for kimberly's foodcourt. you're not going to believe this but mcdonald's, to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the big mack, we've got here. no onions.
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they are going to dispense three different sizes from an atm. you have to tweet about it. it's going to be fresh. you should show up. it's going to be in boston. they are celebrating the launch of mac junior. >> let's do this. i have a really, really good whiteboard. i will do it tomorrow. in the meantime. free big mac from a machine. >> their machines are taking it over. you can't. >> you've got to go up and touch
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the screen. >> no more cashiers. >> bob, we will take you and you will be the guinea pig. that's it for us, special report is next. >> president trump takes the first steps toward building his wall along the southern border. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i am chris wallace in for bret baier. another day and more items checked off the list of president trump's campaign promises. today he addressed perhaps his most famous pledge to build a wall on the mexican border and crackdown on illegal immigration. we have fox team coverage but william la jeunesse is just back from the border. mike tobin in chicago where the president is talking about sending in the feds and cracking down


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