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the screen. >> no more cashiers. >> bob, we will take you and you will be the guinea pig. that's it for us, special report is next. >> president trump takes the first steps toward building his wall along the southern border. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. i am chris wallace in for bret baier. another day and more items checked off the list of president trump's campaign promises. today he addressed perhaps his most famous pledge to build a wall on the mexican border and crackdown on illegal immigration. we have fox team coverage but william la jeunesse is just back from the border. mike tobin in chicago where the president is talking about sending in the feds and cracking down on sanctuary cities.
we begin with chief white house correspondent john roberts. >> good evening to you. it was an open question on the campaign trail. was donald trump just campaigning up on the idea of building a border wall or would he do it? today president trump left no doubts. it was the central promise of his election campaign and today president trump gave general john kelly has marching orders. >> the secretary of homeland security, working with myself and my staff, will begin immediate construction of a border wall. >> in cities and towns across america, it was a rallying cry for trump supporters. then candidate donald trump insisting it wouldn't cost taxpayers a dime. >> who is going to build the wall? >> of the reality maybe more complicated. initially american taxpayers will foot the bill, in theory to
be later reimbursed by mexico. the mexican president has insisted he won't pay. in president trump's first interview, he told abc news. >> he has to say that. he has to say back. i'm telling you there will be a payment. it will be in a form, perhaps a complicated form. you have to understand what i'm doing is good for the united states. >> good for the u.s. and mexico, the president said today, because it will dissuade thousands of central american migrants from entering mexico bound for the u.s. and put a substantial dent in cross-border drug traffic. the order also curtails federal funding for sanctuary cities, hires 5,000 more border patrol agents, and ends the obama-era practice of catch and release. president trump struck the same emotional court he did many times during the campaign when he invited on stage the parents of children killed by illegal immigrants. as part of his executive orders, the president will create a
special office to help victims of crimes committed by illegal aliens. >> these were great young people and they will always be remembered. always paid we will never forget them. >> still ahead, more executive orders on what was initially the muslim man. president trump is expected to temporarily suspend leases from many nations. he may reduce the number of refugees admitted and may temporarily halt all refugees from syria while a process of extreme vetting is established for the white house shot down report it was preparing to resurrect the bush-era program of enhanced interrogation, president trump said he was open to fighting fire with fire, and considering waterboarding. >> i want to do everything within the bounds of what you are allowed to do legally. do i feel it works? absolutely i feel it works. >> any attempt to bring back
waterboarding would likely be met with stiff reads resistanc. >> chris: john roberts, thank you. the trump wall is only part of the president's plan to crackdown on illegal immigration. correspondent william la jeunesse spent the last few days along the border and tells us about some of the other trump policies that could make a big difference. >> they are making their move. >> this is what the border look like before a fence. today thousands of illegal immigrants still get over, under, and through areas where there is no barrier which is why president trump said he would erect a wall not unlike this one in israel. the overwhelming problem today isn't mexicans coming to the u.s. for work but central americans seeking asylum. >> the law says people should be detained if they don't have a
visa and are seeking asylum. >> under president obama, most were released, pending a court date. president trump today overturned that policy, hoping to send a message. >> the minute you see that people are going to be detained or arrested or even departed, then you will see a tipping point that will occur very quickly and people will stop trying to enter the country. >> stemming the flow of illegal immigrants is one challenge, dealing with those already here is another. >> the anger and just the devastation of that day is something i relive. >> he lost his son after a petty criminal shot to him at a convenience store shortly after being released by i.c.e. as a low priority detainee. >> trump ended the policy and brought back a bush-era program that identifies all criminal aliens while still in jail to avoid the costly effort of
tracking them down as fugitives. >> my first take away is wow. he is serious about what he was sitting on the campaign trail going back a year and a half. >> the executive order calls for new detention facilities at the bordmmigration judges they are to immediately decide asylum claims to end catch and release. >> chris: thank you. chicago is a sanctuary city and mayor rahm emanuel says that will not change. president trump is threatening to turn off the federal spigot for any city that refuses to cooperate on people in this country illegally. senior correspondent mike tobin has the story from chicago. >> the president's executive order squares him off with the mayor of the nation's third largest city because of what it does. >> cracks down on sanctuary cities. >> chicago mayor rahm emanuel needs minority support for political survival.
rahm emanuel vowed chicago will remain a sanctuary city. the crackdown means certain federal grants will become unavailable but the mayor insists immigrants with legal status can remain safe. >> you are welcome in chicago as you pursue the american dream. >> in light of chicago's problem with gun violence the president fired off a late-night tweet. "if chicago doesn't fix the horrible carnage going on, 228 shootings in 2017 with 42 killings come up 24% from 2016, i will send in the feds." it brought immediate rebuke from an activist on the troubled westside. >> we do not need feds on our streets. we don't need national guard. that is depression. >> illinois congressman luis gutierrez alleged the president was exploiting people for political gain. >> we have a problem in the city
of chicago. we need solutions. not a president on twitter. >> the tweets seemed directed at emanuel. the mayor responded diplomatically saying if the fed can send resources, chicago will take them. >> i would welcome, always have, welcome federal participation in working with local law enforcement to dealing with guns and gangs. >> softening the tones of the presidents communication, sean spicer said this is about the federal government pitching and dissolve the city's problem. >> no american, whether you live in chicago or nebraska, shouldn't feel like you can walk down the streets of a city, the streets of a city in this country and fear for your life. too often that is happening in chicago. >> emanuel and the president have met in person since the election. according to the mayor, the discussions were cordial and productive. when the conversation happens over just about every other form
of media. >> chris: thank you. president trump says he wants a major investigation into a situation most experts consider a minor problem at worst, voter fraud. the president contends millions of votes were cast illegally in november. the evidence of far suggests otherwise. chief washington correspondent james rosen takes a look. >> confronted with evidence that president trump's own lawyers proclaimed the 2016 election free of voter fraud, in contrast with the president's own claim this week that invalid ballots cast by millions of illegal aliens cost him the popular vote, white house press secretary sean spicer said the lawyers were only focused on states facing recounts. >> look at california and new york, i'm not sure though statements, look at those states in particular. a lot of these issues could have occurred and vigor states. that's where i think were going to look. >> arguing against proposed recounts from a mr. trump's attorneys affirmed the december all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or
mistake. house speaker paul ryan agreed and remarks on tuesday. shortly after 7:00 a.m. the president tweeted "i will be asking for a major investigatin into voter fraud, including those registered to vote in two states, those who are illegal and even those registered to vote more dead and many for a long time." depending on results, we will strengthen voting procedures. maryland secretary of state. >> there are nonpartisan commissions in almost every state that oversee allegations of voter fraud and their sickly haven't been massive -- simply haven't been massive voter frau fraud. >> wants to investigate something that can clearly be proven to be false but he resists any investigation of the russian disruption of our election and any connection.
>> i want him to investigate all the people who don't get a chance to vote, being denied the right to vote. >> 120 2014 2014 study its aute standing by their work have warned against anyone citing it as evidence of massive voter fraud. election experts told us that while there are some dead people who remain on voting rules, it's much more common that living people are registered in more than one state. the expert said these dual registrations tend to get cleared up at polling sites and that all such cases tallied up would still prove negligible relative to hillary clinton's margin of victory in the popular vote of 2.9 million. >> chris: thank you. the president says he will announce his supreme court pick one week from tomorrow. he tweeted out his intentions this morning. bret baier talks about one of the key players the president is consulting on the nomination.
>> to get a closer look at perhaps some of the nominees that president trump is looking for for the supreme court, joining us now, leonard leo. trump advisor for the supreme court pick. >> good evening. >> president trump is getting to this decision good we've heard it's going to be someone in the mold of antonin scalia. what does that mean? >> under our constitution, power rests with the people. that is at the core of justice scalia's legacy. i think it will be at the core of the jurisprudence of whatever individual he nominates. >> we are going to go over three possible, and some people call them favorites. it's important to note this is a fluid situation and it is president trump's pick.
typically have outstanding candidates and we will pick a truly great supreme court justice. i will be announcing it sometime next week. >> he can choose anybody he wants and he can change his mind before he makes the announcement. there are lots of people who are on his list of 21 who are being seriously considered but that can change day-to-day. >> let's talk about these top three. as you look at them, who are they? >> well, the ones that are being talked about most right now are william pryor, who is a court of appeals judge in alabama. neil gorsuch, a federal appeals judge in colorado and tom hardeman who is an appeals judge as well in pittsburgh, pennsylvania. >> let's talk about gorsuch first. he is from the denver court. u.s. tenth circuit. what makes him unique? >> he has a very distinguished record of service. he has written a a lot of opinions. he has served in the justice
department during the bush administration during the war on terror. he has executive branch experience. very talented lawyer, strong intellect, went to columbia. >> 49 years old. it would be a young supreme court pick. >> he would be serving a long time if you were on the court. >> let's talk about hardiman from the u.s. court of appeals third circuit. >> yes. hardiman has got a very strong intellect, studied at notre dame, went to georgetown law. he is interesting because he was both a trial court judge in the federal system but also a court of appeals judge. slightly different range of experience pray lots of written opinions, has an interesting personal background. he drove a taxi to support his way through law school. interesting personal story. >> and pretty young, 51. >> young also. a pattern they are.
>> finally, prior. talked about for quite some time. >> he is well-known to the conservative movement. he's been around a long time. judge in alabama for over a decade. also serves on the u.s. sentencing commission. knows a lot about criminal law and constitutional law. he is a frequent speaker at conservative events around the country. he is very much in the mold of scalia. >> all of these judges had been appointed by george w. bush minus judge moreno. everybody else was a bush appointee. >> on the list of 21? yes. part of that is timing. a lot of the judges from the reagan and bush years are getting older. >> this is comforting when you talk to people on capitol hill who are republicans, but it is likely going to be a pretty big fight on the democratic side to get votes to get over 60.
how does the president, administration, look at the fight considering the picks he is choosing? >> i think there are a couple expectations. this is the scalia seat. it's a conservative seat to begin with. i think there is a hope that democrats will recognize that the balance of the court doesn't change with the appointment of this next justice. secondly, i think there is a hope that if the president nominates someone who is extraordinarily talented, strong intellectually, and is in the mainstream of legal thought and these people all are, there will be lots of debate and some disagreement but the senate ultimately will confirm the nominee without a high degree of obstruction. >> this is what -- this was a big part of the election. >> 20% of people who voted said that supreme court was the most important issue for them. 60% of those people voted for mr. trump. this was a big issue, a defining issue. unlike any other election cycle
i've ever seen. i think that president has relatively wide latitude to make a very substantial appointment. >> does this administration expect a real push back or fight from democrats on these picks? >> there is always going to be that kind of pushback, there's always going to be a big fight because the seats are highly coveted. i think if the president sticks with the high-quality nominee he's been looking at, it's going to be hard for the democrats to defeat somebody. i'm not sure they are going to want to pull the trigger with a filibuster. >> we appreciate your time today. there is a rundown. >> chris: thank you. up next, the history on wall street and what it means for you. here is what some of our fox affiliates are covering. fox 29 in philadelphia with a huge think all that open overnight in suburban montgomery county. it swallowed a driveway, a tree, and much of the street.
no injuries were reported. fox 13 in tampa. florida, scott wants to trim money in the coming year. the biggest chunk would come from a 25% cut in the sales tax on commercial rentals. this is a live look at san diego from fox 5. an extension of the moratorium on establishing businesses related to recreational marijuana. authorities say an extra ten and a half months will allow city officials to set up land-use and public safety regulations. an additional 45-day delay was approved last month. california voters legalized recreational marijuana in november. that is the live look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right back
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>> chris: history on wall street tonight for the dow crossed the 20,000 mark for the very first time. the dow finished ahead 156 to close at 20,068.5. the s&p 500 was up 18. nasdaq gained 55. let's get some perspective on today's breakthrough and its historic breakthrough. beyond that number from a 20,000, how big a deal is this and why did we hit it now? >> it is a big deal. we had gotten close for a while and we couldn't quite get over the brink. a lot of people said what was holding the market back was just wanting to see some action from donald trump. there had been so much promise. would it happen? analysts said today clarity is
the markets oxygen. what he meant was seen donald trump actually take action, whether it is the pipeline, executive orders, seeing the action gave them some clarity and pushed the market over the edge. >> chris: let me follow up on that. did president trump's announcements yesterday about the keystone and dakota access pipelines, did they play a role? to go absolutely. what's important about the pipeline is that it isn't just about oil. it's about the jobs that go into the pipeline but also steelworkers. promised to use american steel, using our own natural resources. there is a domino effect with jobs. you get the oil coming into the country. it is refined here, provides cheap energy, good for consumers. it's also fulfilling the promise to companies that have promised, like carrier, to bring manufacturing here. they need an environment of cheap energy and en route to kp those jobs here over the long
term. >> chris: for all of the success now, the trump bump isn't what the markets were predicting beforehand, is it? >> no. makes you wonder, were people's predictions clouded by emotions and politics? paul krugman, nobel winning economist, he got out there on election night and wrote an op-ed in "the new york times" and said one is the market going to recover? never. my specialty, and the you look at the market today. trump shouldn't be tweeting in the middle of the night, the president. perhaps paul krugman shouldn't be writing editorials in the middle of the night. >> chris: all right. we will leave it there. i think you enjoyed that line. thank you. >> i did. thanks for indulging me. >> chris: a majority of people surveyed in our latest poll said they have achieved the american dream or it's within sight in
their family. 40% say they have made it. ford 3% say they're on the way. 15% say it's out of reach. speaking of money, senate democrats want to spend 1 trillion of your track dollars -- tax dollars. will president trump go along? chief political correspondent carl cameron looks at the prospects. >> we will build new roads and highways and bridges and airports. >> seizing on president trump's inaugural address, reiterating promises on the infrastructure. democrats plan to spend a trillion dollars. >> he campaigned on infrastructure. this plan is the way to make it happen. >> among other big-ticket items democrats would spend $210 billion repairing roads and bridges, 180 billion upgrading rail and bus systems, 110 billion improving water and sewer infrastructure. 75 billion for schools and
70 billion for improved shipping waterways. >> we can create up to 15 million decent paying jobs. >> democrats hope it will appeal to president trump. >> we call on the president to persuade his republican colleagues in the house and senate to drop their opposition to investing in infrastructure and get on board with this plan. >> democrats plan for federal spending faces huge resistance. republican senate majority leader which mcconnell doused icewater on the plan. >> i don't think we ought to borrow almost a trillion dollars, incurred a lot of additional debt, and don't build any projects. >> the president's plan is expected to offer tax credits to businesses. they have said the white house
plan will not increase the debt. >> we have a $21 trillion debt but i think we would all like to tackle infrastructure. >> president trump's promise to rebuild america's infrastructure and reduce the national debt, doing both is going to be difficult. this is only the beginning. >> chris: thank you. one of president trump's greatest challenges may come from within his own government. federal workers at agencies such as the epa are becoming more political, so just how far will employees be allowed to go with their public criticism of the boss? doug mckelway has the story. >> president trump is facing a backlash from some federal bureaucrats. the most recent examples, anti-trump government leaks. "today the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is higher than any time." >> donald trump is a threat to
liberals. he has said he wants to cut regulations. these people exist in the government to issue regulations. the tendency of the bureaucracy is to expand and he's a direct threat to that. >> bad blood may have been stirred with the executive orders on monday, one freezing federal government hiring. one unit exec -- union exec says it may backfire. >> veterans want their service, connected to disability, borders, screen airline passengers to keep us safe. >> trump administration ordered agencies to halt social media communications. a move later clarified by press secretary sean spicer. >> they haven't been directed by us to do anything. from what i understand they've been told within their agencies to adhere to their own policies but that directive did not come from here. >> asked if the federal
workforce is politicized against the president, spicer deferred. >> i don't think we spent a ton of time thinking about bass. >> analysts last october said that 95% of agency contributions in 2016 went to the clinton campaign. >> we have to be careful not to conclude that there is bias against president trump. >> 1 out of 4 workers is a federal government employee. in any company town when livelihood are threatened, there is bound to be a backlash. >> chris: thank you. protesters went to new heights today in washington to criticize president trump. several climbed 8270-foot construction crane blocks from the white house to unfurl the banner calling on people to resist mr. trump's policies. greenpeace says they are
continuing a protest that began at the inauguration. a police official says his department will consult with prosecutors about appropriate charges. republican lawmakers were not around to see that banner. they are in philadelphia for a star started today strategy session. peter doocy is alive in philadelphia. good evening. >> good evening. we hear about the first 100 days of the trump administration all the time but republicans here say they've got a 200 day plan. if they want to make the most of controlling congress and the white house the time to do that is right now. they've got three big things on their agenda. >> strategy sessions around health care, tax reform as well as national defense. we are coming together to put together an aggressive plan set in motion a unified republican government. >> there is a growing curiosity to see what republicans plan to write into the health care law. they would like president trump
to sign after obamacare is repealed. president trump is going to be here tomorrow. one member of congress tells us that even if there aren't many new specifics about the new law revealed by the conclusion of this retreat, there will be some new clarity about exactly how legislators plan to make one of the new presidents priorities a reality. >> we are going to give the process for how were going to make sure nobody listens their health care coverage, however going to replace was something that actually makes health care more affordable and better. you're going to begin to see that happen here but i think if people want us to roll out a huge 5,000 page replacement bill, that's not how we want to operate. >> the point of the retreat isn't just to talk policy. it is to hammer home that everyone is on the same side and to talk teamwork, organizers are bringing in peyton manning paid he's going to be the keynote speaker tomorrow at a dinner. lamar alexander says manning is a good an example.
they will resume confirmation battles when they get back. >> chris: peter doocy reporting from philadelphia. thank you. the head of the veterans affairs department says they agency intends to exempt anyone it deems necessary for public safety including front-line caregivers from president trump's federal hiring freeze. the va made the announcement because the presidents freeze expressly exempted only the military. spokesmen for the afghan taliban is telling president trump it's time to pull all u.s. troops out of afghanistan. the group emailed the letter written in english and two other link which is today. it warrants peace will be elusive as long as foreign troops are on afghan soil. two u.s. defense officials tell fox news a pair of russian bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons flew near japan yesterday.
the japanese military scrambled fighter jets to intercept them and the north american aerospace defense command increased its threat posture. the bombers stated in international airspace. news of the fights came shortly after the pentagon announced defense secretary james mattis will make his first overseas trip to japan and south korea next month. seven-time emmy-winning actress mary tyler moore has died. a spokesman released a statement saying moore died in the company of her friends and her husband. moore became a star in the '60s, headlined the "mary tyler moore" show in the '70s. nominated for an oscar in the film "ordinary people." mary tyler moore was 80.
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>> beginning today, the united states of america gets back control of its borders. we are going to get the bad ones out, the criminals and the drug deals and gangs and gang members and cartel leaders. the day is over when they can stay in our country and recap make. >> chris: president trump announcing executive orders today to begin building a wall along our entire border with mexico and to cut federal funding for sanctuary cities. time to bring in our panel. jonah goldberg, eli stokols, and charles hurt from the washington times. eli, how much of this can the president do by executive order? doesn't he need congress to approve at least some of this wall project which is going to cost more than $10 billion? doesn't he need some congressional approval to cut off funding for sanctuary cities? >> how are you going to do this
with funding and they said it's the beginning. important friend to show he's following through on campaign promises and there's a symbolic act specked. you're not can i add 5,000 i.c.e. agents and build a wall along the border using existing funds. >> they're going to try to collect more fines, they think there is an savings they can find. nowhere close to what it will take to build a wall, never mind hiring more people, building detention centers. a lot of things they are throwing out there today and this is sort of not really talking about how to pay for it, where the details will be in terms of how you get the grants away from sanctuary cities. >> chris: were going to get to the democrat pushback. isn't it going to be a problem when you get to the senate and the filibuster? >> they need 60 votes somewhere. paul ryan said he's open to funding for a potential border
wall, appropriating more money and for building this. they're going to have to work with some democrats at some points. this going to be subject to the filibuster. >> this isn't the end of it. president is talking about signing more executive orders this week limiting the number of refugees and even people just coming in on visas from countries that have a recent history of terrorism. is this kind of a cleaned up version of the muslim ban. >> it's a way to do it in a more responsible way. to say that you're going to ban muslims is i would say unconstitutional. but also unworkable. what you gonna do? i do think more broadly donald trump was given a gift by the obama administration because obama worked the pen and phone
so assiduously he created an enormous amount of flexibility for donald trump to do much of the same. this sort of ridiculous thing we are hearing a lot today is that somehow conservatives or republicans are hypocritical hr supporting trump and his executive orders when we criticized barack obama for doing the same thing. all of these executive orders so far are pretty much within the normal authority of the presidency the united states. he hasn't just lighted, hasn't done anything that the substance of the criticism against obama. no one is against executive orders as executive orders. they are against using them as a substitute for going to congress. this is a great political fight for donald trump to have to go to congress and say the democrats don't want to secure the border. >> chris: republicans protecting the country and enforcing borders. let's talk about it, charlie.
mr. trump's actions this week to crack down on immigration both legal and illegal have already provoked a sharp backlash on capitol hill. let's look first and what the president said in an interview today with abc news and then congressional democratic reaction. >> of the american taxpayer will pay for the wall at first. >> reimbursed from a later date with whatever transaction we make with mexico. >> american people are going to be stuck with a bill to build a wall that most likely is going to be effective. >> chris: charlie, how is this going to play out? >> the democrats are not worried about overspending. that's a nice turn. truth of the matter is while donald trump stone on this and the emphasis on enforcing these laws is a dramatic departure i think from previous presidents in either party. the vast majority i would say actually probably everything he mentioned today is already at
least in some form, some broadbrush form, part of the canon of federal law. the idea of building a fence along the southern border is already part of the law. the idea that we are supporters to deport illegals is already part of the law. there are some things that are going to drive people crazy, such as one of the things he included was instead of taking illegals that are caught at the border or wherever and returning them to the country of origin, he says, and this is part of the law, we can return them to wherever they came from. if they are from honduras, you can send them back tobecause th mexico. that's a hot-button issue but probably something that's going to be -- that will put up the bright neon sign that barack obama had up that said
vacancy. welcome. it will turn that to "don't come." >> chris: another thing is the second part of candidate trumps pledge witches were going to build a wall and make mexico pay for. the backlash now that this is really on the docket, there is talk that them mexican president might cancel his visit. >> this will bleed into other agenda items. trade, nafta, having a working relationship with mexico. when you politicize this to this degree, people in mexico here what's going on in washington right now and this does not improve relations back and forth across the border. what's interesting and charlie got up this a little bit. president trump, by winning, did change the politics of immigration. a lot of republicans and democrats share the view that you couldn't win with this platform that hispanic voters would run the other way and that
you couldn't be this extreme on immigration and win. trump has changed that and he did that in part by expressing empathy for the victims of crimes committed by undocumented immigrants who are here. part of this executive order is for the dhs to publicize monthly they crimes committed by undocumented immigrants in this country and i think what democrats and everybody has to give trump is due on is it's a masterful message on this and a number of other issues whether you see through some of it, whether some of it is based on flimsy facts, you have to give him some credit for drawing attention to things and started flipping this around. he gets asked questions about what will you say to hispanic families who are worried about their parents being deported and sean spicer says he has a lot of empathy. he's a family man. what he would prefer to talk about his empathy for victims of these crimes. the government is directed to publicize information about that. they are very aware of the need
using a musical >> when you havt have been deceased or moved or registered integral counties, when you look at where a lot of these potential issues could have occurred in bigger states, that is where we will look. >> we have moved on, the election is over with. we have a decisive winner in our constitutional system. >> chris: republican senator john kuhn expressing some discomfort about the new white house push to investigate voter fraud of that president trump announced today. we are back with our panel. jonah, what do you make of president trump continuing to
push those voting fraud issue and this morning, tweeting out, "there is going to be a major investigation." >> it is difficult not to get whipsawed. over the weekend, we saw sean spicer, only yesterday, sean spicer said he had a decisive victory. these weeks are getting long. decisive victory, no need to revisit this. then, within 24 hours, donald trump are saying we are going to have a huge investigation, which suggests that there is a fairly impetuous, impulsive decision on the part of the president. i don't like this. i think that this is basically a political cover to compensate with his insecurity about the crowd size issue and about losing the popular vote. getting caught with that gaff about it. it seems to me a waste of government resources to just protect this nonissue. speaking of being whipsawed, it is fairly amazing that donald trump has amazing to
jujitsu the democrats in a matter of two weeks from casting and credible doubt upon the integrity of our elections, which they thought during the campaign was an evil thing for trump to do, now, they are in the position of saying the elections are completely aboveboard and fine. it is very difficult to figure out how to scorecard these things with the arguments keep switching sides. >> chris: eli, you are in those white house briefings, the white house is talking about studies that they say show voter fraud. but when we have looked at those studies, a lot of them are pretty shaky and some of them are also about voter registration, the fact that people that are dead are still on roles or that somebody moves and they are still on the voter rolls integral states. but not that they actually voted in two states. then, you've got this, which i want to put up, which is a statement by a trump attorney when there was a push for a vote recount after the election. "all available evidence suggests that the 2016 general election was not tainted by fraud or
mistakes." so, how comfortable are they arguing in the white house about the president's tweet? >> sean spicer has a tough job. [laughter] yesterday, he basically was asked about this, does the president really believe this. he said, he believes this. he kept referring to it as an "belief." he believes this. that is not going to change. we know that trump's reality is impervious to challenge. sometimes, to facts. beyond that, he did say today, sean spicer defended this president when he was asked about this again today. he said, those studies were only in the places that we looked at, only the places basically that were close. he sang in the states were trump didn't win, california, for instance, new york, there may have been more cases of fraud. we didn't examine those. he is still trying to leave that possibility open in places that are typically blue states and where there is more diverse population, sort of dovetails with trump's larger sort of
deal. >> chris: president trump reignited this coalition wholen he met with leaders on monday night, just unabated and said that he would have won the popular vote except for the three to 5 million illegal immigrants who voted. this provoked this reaction today from house democratic leader nancy pelosi, who was in that meeting. >> i frankly feel very sad about the president making this claim. i felt sorry for him. i even prayed for him. but then, i prayed for the united states of america. >> chris: charlie, your reaction to nancy pelosi. let's start there first. >> yeah, she should have just said sad, or tweeted out salad with an exclamation point, like donald trump does. the problem with this is that there may be a lot of studies that show that there is not widespread voter fraud. but there are cases that come up. when they come up, everybody hears about it.
remember the audit of the michigan results this past, from november, there were just egregious examples of the mishandling of ballots and clearly, numbers in certain precincts and districts that did not add up to what the official tally was. so, whether or not there are enough to make up the millions of votes that donald trump says there are, that obviously remains unproved at the moment. but there are enough for him to make that claim. you know, one thing that would make everything a lot better in this situation is if there was a serious effort, as it is now, there are higher requirements to rent ice skates or bowling shoes than it is to go an end cast a ballot. voter i.d. laws, i know, the last, nancy pelosi, goes crazy over those things. but they do serve to legitimize
these votes. >> chris: that is interesting because with the democrats say is this is going to end up being an effort at voter suppression, not to say that is wrong, but the democratic line on this, this it will be an effort to make it harder for people to vote. jonah. >> that is with the democrats say about any voter integrity law because they basically have this theory that even the most minimal requirements for citizens to vote is somehow illegitimate, which has always struck me as ridiculous. i will say, though, to charlie's position, i agree that voter fraud exists. it tends to exist and matter only in very close state or local elections where a few hundred ballots, like in wisconsin or washington state, can tip the election. that can happen. i agree with you. it would be great to have some sort of copperheads of effort to straighten out the voting situation. that is clearly not what the motive for this. this is clearly an ego-based
thing about covering up for the statements that are trump made. >> chris: b of less than 30 seconds left. i want to go down the line starting with you, jonah. will there be a major investigation or not? >> i doubt it. >> if he wants to do that, uses the pretax comment better to deal in facts and have credibility going forward. >> is in the sort of thing where he does it and then he says, the books are clean, we are good. he >> chris: do you think it will happen or not? >> i don't know. [laughter] >> chris: that is a definite maybe. that is that for the panel. stay tuned to see how they are reacting in one european country to president trump's claim of america first. ♪
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netherlands. >> welcome to this introduction video about the netherlands. it's going to be a great video. it is going to be absolutely fantastic. we speak dutch. it's the best language in europe. we've got all the best words, all the other languages failed. this is a great, great wall. we belted to protect us from all the water from mexico. and we made the mexicans pay for it. it is true. we have got the best tax evasion system god ever created. it is just unbelievable. you should tell your sons -- to put all their businesses here. you will pay no taxes at all. zero. it's ridiculous. we totally understand it is going to be america first. but can we just say, the netherlands second. >> chris: at least they are
listening in amsterdam. we are number two. that is "special report" for tonight. i'm chris wallace in washington. "the first 100 days" with martha maccallum is up next. ♪ >> martha: breaking tonight, president trump makes it clear with two new executive orders that he intends to enforce the laws on the books when it comes to people here in this country illegally. and that hasn't sent some shock waves on both sides of this fierce debate tonight. plus, 80 late breaking reports suggesting that of mexico may na trip to meet with mr. trump next week as a result of all of the developments today. welcome, everybody, i am martha maccallum of this is a chock-full day six of the first 100. let's get right to it. president trump made his trip to the department of homeland security this morning. he was joined by families of americans who have been killed by illegal immigrants in this country. the command