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directed the oscar-winning film on the story. the time that the c.i.a. went hollywood 37 years ago today. breaking news changes everything on fox news channel. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: thanks very much. welcome to "your world." we're at the pentagon. james mattis has already been sworn in as defense secretary of the united states but the president wanted to do the honors and see this carried out in a big way with the big boss there to witness it. so when that happens, we're there. meantime, to blake burman on a very busy white house at what has been a very busy week. blake? >> certainly you can call it that, neil. we expect the president at some point this hour to sign a few
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more executive orders. one deals with a major campaign promise, that being extreme vetting. that spawned off the president's initial muslim ban but formed into that extreme vetting terms. while the details of this have yet to be officially released by the white house, we expect this to deal with how visas are issued, who is get them, the process for that. especially talking about the focus of countries in and around the middle east. there are also expected to be a couple more executive orders signed there as well. we are told they will deal with military readiness. while at the pentagon, the president is also meeting with the joint chiefs of staff. that meeting has just wrapped up or according to the schedule should be wrapping up here any moment. then there's the ceremonial swearing in for the defense secretary, james mattis. neil, you got this trip right now over to the pentagon. this caps off a busy week, which also had trips to the c.i.a. and
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department of homeland security as well. >> neil: thanks very much. the president is expected to direct the military to come up with new options to fight isis. at the same time, shep indicated, he seemed to dial back and try to split the difference between his own views on torture and how his defense secretary is ceremonial swearing in today doesn't look it and doesn't think it's a good idea. the president says he would defer to secretary mattis. lieutenant colonel oliver north joins us. i'd be here forever introducing him. colonel, good to have you. >> good to be here. and one of those book tours was with you. >> neil: and did a lot to help your sales. did little to help mine. let's get more on what message the president is sending about agreeing to a consistent strategy and fighting isis and
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about seeing torture as something not advisable. what do you think? >> look, torture was not defined as things like water boarding. torture previously assumed to be those things that would do permanent harm to a human body. in 2015, congress put together a law that said and they defined torture as things like water boarding, as things like pushing someone up against a wall, hot boxes. all kinds of things that we used to do, neil, in training people in what we call survival, escape, resistance and evasion. sear school. the whole idea you would train people to deal with those course of techniques used on detainees against us. it was a nonissue in 2015. if you don't think that another 9-11 attack is going to happen,
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then congress is unlikely going to change any of that. it is now the law. secretary of defense mattis or c.i.a. director pompeo will order their subordinates to break the law and president trump realizes it. i used to water board people. i stuffed them with hot boxes. i had sleep deprivation. loud noises. those measures are now proscribed but the u.s. army field manual. and someone took mine. i was going to bring it. but it might have written by osama bin laden because it is so soft on what happens. i guess the bottom line of it all is, since we've now defined it, they know what we went do and we're not going to break the law. none of these leaders will do that. but i point out to you, if someone knew there was going to be a nuclear attack on the
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united states and someone had a detainee, what measures would we take to get that information in time to save the lives of millions of americans? >> neil: when this issue was coming up for a debate, colonel, senator mccain said the president can write how many executive orders he wants. this would stand up, this nontorture position in a court of law. again, you distinguish here between water boarding and other things that congress later added on. i assume that isn't like a worldwide view or what? >> look, there's a lot of people that know that coercive interrogation works. it's been proven to. going back to world war i when there's documented evidence of that. world war ii, korea and vietnam and the like. look, we used to do things like -- i did this. we used poisonous snakes in trying to cooers people to tell -- they knew in their
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hearts we weren't going to kill them. that was training. that kind of training helped prepare them for the treatment that they got. john mccain was tortured. what they did to him in the hanoi hilton and other prisoner of war sites in north vietnam was torture. we've never done that kind of thing. never condoned it. some of our allies may have done it but we department. the bottom line is, when congress made these things illegal, they're going to stay illegal until congress changes it. >> neil: when i hear the president said as he did today in this press conference and that he would defer -- i hope i have the right wording there -- to his defense secretary, what did you make of that? >> well, i make of it -- donald trump became famous for saying "year -- "you're fired." if he doesn't like that the
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secretary of defense won't do it -- i know these mean well. i know jim mattis very well. he was not going to issue that kind of order and he has the authority to issue though orders. he's not going to do it. into if the president doesn't like it, he can utter those two famous words that he used on television "you're fired" and find a secretary of defense that will. >> neil: i want your take on how the president described vladimir putin. theresa may teed this up yesterday with the republicans, that, you know, look, almost like ronald reagan did for us, do you think she changed his view of vladimir putin or that she had to? the president kept saying, look, i don't know him, we'll see how things go, could go well, could go poorly. but how do you think it will go? tomorrow they'll have a phone call with each other. how do you see this relationship
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going forward? >> well, i see all kinds of relationships are affected by the fact that he's now in the oval office. there's awesome responsibility that comes with this assignment. it's not running for office. it's being in office. what the president is realizing the effect the before him is awesome. those kinds of statements that he can make during a campaign are quite frankly no longer relevant. a lot of people that expected him to i suppose stick with the same kind of rhetoric. clearly he's changed. i've watched this man for five days in office. one of my colleagues said i wonder if he's taking valium? it's clear he's tamed down in terms of his rhetoric. it's important. words do matter in an office of president of the united states. >> neil: i wonder if he mixes it with caffeine. he's been busy. >> this is a whole administration full of
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workaholics. >> neil: looks like that. thanks, cornell. >> thanks. >> neil: oliver north. thanks. we ended up the week with a whimper but held over 20,000. our markets are doing just fine here. we've had some surprisingly good earnings news out of technology sector, optimism about how that is going to fare going forward here only financial stocks. all the major averages up. the dow up into record territory. i want to focus on how this fall out of build a wall, who will pay for it, how that hits the peso. it picked out after we learned that the president spoke with an hour, a phone call initiated by president trump, with his counter part in mexico. that maybe just sort of helped the peso out a little bit. their stock market there, dow jones industrial, was down. we have more included the president expected to formally sign that executive order for extreme vetting for refugees.
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all of this occurring as he makes his way to the defense department. and the ceremonial swearing in of james mattis. of course, we should say that the general is already the defense secretary. sworn in by vice president pence. this is how important it is to the president that he by ceremony or however you want to define it, wants to one up his number 2 who swore him in himself. more after this. ♪ when you have $7.95 online u.s. equity trades lower than td ameritrade, schwab, and e-trade, you realize the smartest investing idea isn't just what you invest in, but who you invest with.
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focusing on those countries that have a disproportionate number of terror going on. doctor, good having you. what will this mean? does the executive order carry the weight where we can slow down here? what would it do? >> neil, that's a great question. what does it mean. i think we're hearing so much about what it doesn't mean. a lot of exaggeration. the bottom line, he's following through on promises, rationale approa approach, to stop and pause immigration from countries that are havens for jihadists, countries that could hate the west and we start threatening against islamism from somalia, yemen, iraq, et cetera. the pause is 120 days. we might need 180 days. but at that event, we vet
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against those that believe in an islamic state. the only criticism, i don't understand why syria was indefinite. we need to message it's not just stopping immigration, it's pausing it so that we can come back to security first and second getting back to america's roots which are welcoming the immigrants that want to be free. >> neil: could be any second. i might interrupt you for the swearing in of james mattis. the defense secretary is on record saying that we have to take the fight to isis. we cannot give any mixed signals. i'm paraphrasing. what do you think his approach to dealing with isis working with this american president? >> we not only have to take it to them but decimate them in syria where they exist, their money. that's the end point of not violent extremism but violent islamism. to decimate isis, you have to take away the inspiration, this
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islamic state jihadism. we have to fight over there. we've been extremely absent and catering to the islamic mindset of fear of westernism. so we have to engage in the idealogical war and let the mad dog mattises of the world destroy them on the battled field. >> neil: i'm getting a sense that this is the primary concern, back and forth and russia, back and forth about how we deal with china. but front and center right now is how we take on isis. so he's probably -- that is the president going to want a plan for that. and then an aggressive one. where do you see this going? >> well, i hope we shift the axis of domestic and global approach from violent extremism to violent islamism.
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hamas, the muslim brotherhood, al-quaida, they're all part of the same tree, which is this sense of islamist supremacy, the sharia state. part of the legacy groups, et cetera, they're not part of our alleys. they don't share our ideology of freedom. so we have to start to understand that the conveyor belt towards these groups to abandon this whack'em all program, so they're ready and willing to advise them on that. >> neil: i want your take on this sort of change or slight on the part of the president and torture and how he refers to his defense secretary, that he's not in favor of the no torture and he would defer to that view. something that john mccain and others have urged as well. what do you make of that in our fight against isis and
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terrorists, whether that's good or bad? >> i think the good cop bad cop discussion between president trump and the generals is very effective. america will not be weak and we won't let our enemies determine what we do to keep our country safe. on the other hand, to be that beacon of freedom and morality. we have to maintain the geneva convention, maintain that air of enlightenment and freedom and the muslims see us asseting the standard globally rather than going to their level. i believe one that believes that we should not do things that ineffective and also not surrender and do things that wouldn't keep us safe. >> neil: all right. thanks, doctor. thanks for taking the time. >> any time. thanks, neil. >> neil: i want to go to colonel schaffer, retired u.s. army
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intelligence. tony, we're waiting for this event here, but already on the torture pivot or whatever you want to call it, tony, senators john mccain and lindsey graham have said we're pleased by president trump's statement that he will defer to secretary mattis's view on torture and water boarding. do you agree? >> i agree that torture has not worked by my experience. bill clear on this. i don't think we should be having a discussion regarding torture in public. it's one of those things where i don't believe for a minute we should be doing it. sometimes the implication that we can do it, the fear of that existing is an effective tool by itself. let's face it, psychologically, the fear of something is greater than the actual event. while i agree and look, i said this in my book, we talked about operation dark heart.
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you can break someone with psychological tricks if you know what you're doing. i agree with general mattis. i think mr. trump may have gotten some bad advice along the way somewhere. >> neil: as we wait for this to kickoff with the president and defense secretary, what difference does it make in the secretary seems to be held in high regard throughout the establishment. the praises, mutual, but to have for the defense establishment to have one of its own in that job. you're a great military right in your own right. we're used to bureaucrats of late. not across the board but it's been a theme. here we have a retired general for whom we made an allowance, a change to get him to the position he's in now. how important will that be? how effective in this job do you think he will be? >> let me give you more on general mattis. let me tell you, the two things that have really endeared him to
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everybody, neal, why you see a reverence for him, his integrity, his honesty. he tells it like it is. he was working with me on a project recently supporting the chairman of the joint chiefs. he was supposed to basically validate something we were doing. neil, he would show up to every meeting. he was there. you know, he would call me. i was by the capitol one day. i get this call. hey, tony, jim mattis. do you have ten minutes for me to give you guidance? oh, yeah. he's that kind of guy. he's very hands on. so what i'm trying to tell you, there's a reason why, neil, that this man is so well-respected. he leads. i think in has been the one missing quality of the civilian side of the pentagon. i'm sorry. ash carter was not leading. he was a bureaucrat. this is where we'll see leadership. >> neil: thanks, colonel. tony shaffer from the pentagon.
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one is a tougher vetting of refugees from problematic regions of the world, terror prone regions of the world. the president will flesh that out in his description of the executive order. whether he says so there or we glean more there is anyone's guess. speaking of the president, we talked about this phone call that he had that he initiated with then't of mexico after the big dust-up yesterday over the wall and whether the mexicans will pay for it. he put a call in. but -- so that might have soothed some feelings a lit bit. the president says a 20% tax on mexico is certainly an option. he just did this interview with the christian broadcasting network. he said this tax is something that could have positive effects and would be much more positive for mexico and the united states. so we're watching this. we're watching these developments. we're getting the read right now.
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how much of this might have been buoyed on how this to deal with terror, what to do about water boarding and torture and all that. a lot of this has to do with theresa may in town, the british prime minister who might have played a role akin to maggie thatcher. what do you think? >> i do. the news conference today went very well for theresa may. she's the first world lead tore kind of meet face to face with mr. trump or president trump, i should say. let's face it, an unorthodox, unpredictable person. she got out without any expected headlines. there was a genuine walk between the two leaders and downing street will be happy with how things went. >> neil: they appeared to have gotten along, louise. one thing i noticed, she seemed to say, although the president
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did not, that nato has some value and that the president seemed to agree with that. and on torture as well. how do we think this relationship is going? >> it's a two-way street. donald trump used his considerable charm on the prime minister and maybe vice versa. they did seem to get along well. theresa may would say that james mattis, who is about to be sworn in, is one of donald trump's best decisions. the united kingdom has a prohibition against torture. that's not that the c.i.a. and the military wants to see. so trump carrying a big stick but listening to reason. he's getting the best of both words. you saw a lot of future cooperation, the groundwork was laid in that speech. but for theresa may to get her big win, she was able to say, mr. president, you said you were 100% behind nato. that's what she gets to take
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home today. >> neil: now, it's what happens and what he says after that, right? sometimes he can clarify a position. he was never anti-nato. just the way the structure is that had to be examined. where do you see this and the role of this relationship going forward? >> with the united kingdom, it will go fine. i think the statements he's made on nato, i do think he will pull back a little bit. i was interested when he was pushed on the issue of torture, he side-stepped it and said well, it's up to defense secretary mathis. i rely on him. he has the experience and expertise. i'll take his recommendations. very smart, like a politics the way he side-stepped that. overall, louise is right. the headlines in the british media late this afternoon is that donald trump is 100% behind nato. he shook a few trees when he
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said that perhaps nato was out of date and needed updating and people needed to contribute more. make no mistake, there are things that theresa may and donald trump don't agree on. the iran deal, i think. the torture for sure. and nato possibly and sanctions on russia. i thought it was clever they didn't talk about the russian sanctions issue before the news conference today. they saved that for after. >> neil: they did dance around a couple things. louise, this is an area -- real quickly. they could talk soon here -- where europe seems to like the idea of america first, right? american might reasserting itself or saving the europeans of that burden. seemed to be a welcome development. >> and the british, you know, neil, have greeted trump that other people need to do their fair share. where is france, where is
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turkey? >> neil: all right. mike pence and james mattis at the pentagon. >> good afternoon. mr. president, chairman members of the joint chiefs of staff, leadership of the department of defense, men and women of our armed forces. distinguished guests. thank you for being here today for the ceremonial swearing in of general james mattis as the 26th secretary of defense of the united states of america. it is a high honor for me to be with you here today. you look around this room, we stand in a place of honor.
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the hall of heros. the names of 3,498 american patriots are inscribed on these walls. each of these performed personal acts of valor above and beyond the call of duty and received the medal of honor as a consequence. it's humbling for us to be among their names. and to be with all of you. secretary mattis is soon to mark his 50th anniversary in the service of this country. during more than four decades in uniform, secretary mattis commanded marines. he led an infantry battalion in iraq in 1991, an expeditionary
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brigade. secretary mattis commanded u.s. joint forces command nato supreme allied command for tr s transformati transformation. he commanded over 200,000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, coast guardsmen and marines across the middle east. now mr. secretary, your president has called you to lead all of the armed forces of the united states. he and i have the highest faith in your judgment and your courage and your dedication to this nation. so on behalf of president trump, it is my great privilege to issue the oath of office. if you would place your left hand on the bible. raise your right hand. repeat after me. i james norman mattis do
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solemnly swear that i will support and defend the constitution of the united states, against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that i will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, that i take this obligation freely, and without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that i will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which i am about to enter, so help me god. congratulations. >> thank you. [applause]
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>> thank you, mr. vice president and mr. president. thank you very much for your confidence in me and welcome to the headquarters of your military, your always loyal military where america's awesome determination to defend ourself is on full display. i would tell you that you've made clear, mr. president, your commitment to a strong national defense and the americans honored in this hall remind us of our strength as a nation of patriots. on behalf of your department, i want you to know that after more than a decade of war, our longest war, those serving today have been tested and you can count on us all the way. we're grateful for you to be here, show your respect for us on a day when former secretary of defense, bill cohen, former secretaries are here. it's a reminder that this department stands in perpetuity as the defender, the sentinels
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and the guardians of the nation. thank you for your confidence in me, mr. president. >> total confidence. thank you very much. [applause] >> that's total confidence. believe me. i'd like to first congratulate general james mattis, now secretary mattis. secretary mattis has devoted his life to serving his country. he's a man of honor, a man of devotion and a man of total action. he likes action. he is the right man at the right time and he will do us all very, very proud. i'm honored to stand here today among so many patriots. you are the backbone of this country. you are the spirit of this nation in every sense. the men and women of the united states military are the greatest
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force for justice and peace and goodness that have ever walked the face of this earth. your legacy exists everywhere in the world today where people are more free, more prosperous and more secure because of the united states of america. you have earned and ensured for our children the glorious right of freedom bestowed on us by god. we stand today in the hall of heros, great heros, a testament to the undying courage of those who wear our nation's uniform and who have received the highest distinction, the medal of honor. this is a sacred hall that all of our nation lives between these walls. these walls tell the story of
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those intrepid americans that gave everything, risked everything and fought with everything they had to save their fellow warriors and warriors they are, believe me. warriors they are and to save our wondrous liberties and to save this god-blessed land. they shed their blood and poured out the love from their hearts to protect our home. we are in awe of their valor, tremendous valor, and we pledge our dedication to every single family serving our country and our flag. that is why today i am signing two executive actions to ensure the sacrifices of our military, are supported by the actions of our government. they will always be supported by
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the actions of our government. believe me. first i'm signing an executive action to begin a great rebuilding of the armed services of the united states. developing a plan for new planes, new ships, new resources and new tools for our men and women in uniform. i'm very proud to be doing that. [applause] as we prepare our budget request for congress, and i think congress is going to be very happy to see it, our military strength will be questioned by no one but neither will our dedication to peace. we do want peace. secondly, i'm established new vetting measures to keep radical
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islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. we don't want them here. we want to ensure that we are not admitting into our country the very threats our soldiers are fighting overseas. we only want to admit those into our country who will support our country and love deeply our people. we will never forget the lessons of 9-11, nor the heros that lost their lives at the pentagon. they were the best of us. we will honor them not only with our words, but with our actions. that's what we're doing today. i am privileged to be here with you, and i promise that our administration will always have your back. we will always be with you. i just want to thank you very much. [applause]
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i want to just extend a very special congratulations to a great man, and that's secretary mattis. i think he's going to lead us so brilliantly. he's a tremendous soldier, always has been. he's a general's general. every general that i spoke to, they just -- i won't say that they all said he's our favorite, but they did. he's our favorite. he's a special, special man. so i want to bless him and god bless you and god bless america. secretary mattis, i have no doubt you're going to do an outstanding job. thanks very much for accepting this responsibility. thank you. [applause]
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>> neil: all right. he's explaining the two executive orders that he's signing. one is on rebuilding the armed services and the other, the tougher vetting of refugees into this country. we touched on it earlier. these would be, i believe, the ninth and tenth executive orders of his young presidency, a week old.
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>> this is the protection of the nation from foreign terrorist entry to the united states. we all know what that means. protection of the nation from foreign terrorists entry into the united states. and i want to thank everybody. many great heros, great warriors. we have tremendous respect for you all. thank you for being here. [applause]
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>> neil: all right. the president wrapping up his visit to the pentagon. witness the swearing in of retired general james mattis as defense secretary. he also signed two executive order. this is unusual for president trump. other presidents that signed executive order or memoranda, they get the word out and passed along the staff to say, all right, the president is signing executive orders. not president trump. he likes to not only show what he's signing but explain what he's signing. a lot of people get benefit out of that. we have house homeland security
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chairman michael mccall with us right now. these latest orders are -- what do you -- the rebuilding of the armed services i can see. what will cause some controversy among some, what does he mean by extreme vetting of refugees? what changes now versus before he signed that order? >> it's a safer day for americans with one stroke of the pen. he closed off more terror pathways than the past eight years under president obama. this is nothing really new. it's something that mayor rudy guliani and i briefed the president on during the campaign. each extreme medium though that was produced, judge mukasey. it talks about the high threat overseas and ramping up the vetting process to make sure we don't have any more san bernardinos in this country, orlandos. all these areas where people come in to the united states and
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perpetrate terror attacks. i applaud the president for doing this. also, one thing that i don't think he mentioned will suspend the refugee program in particular, the syrian refugee program indefinitely. that's a very significant campaign promise that he's followed through with today. i just talked to general kelly before this interview about this executive order. and i will be working with the secretary in the congress to help implement these executive orders. >> does it mean, chairman, that if you have or you come from a country with a lot of tearist incidents that we would go slow on allowing you to come here or is it just -- you know, terror hot beds? >> these are basically seven terror hotspot countries will be denied every visa, every application will be suspended
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for 30 days until the dni and the secretary of homeland security can sit down with the fbi as well to determine, you know, this vetting process as to who are we letting into this country. we have seen in the past, we haven't even used social media to determine who we're letting into this country. countries like iran, iraq, sudan, libya, yemen. they all have a very high level of isis figures present in those countries. they could potentially get into our country through the visa process. so i think this will strengthen our homeland security and i really applaud the president for what he's doing. >> neil: chairman, as you know, there's a back and forth and some tension between ourselves and the mexican government over this wall that the president wants to build. insists the mexicans will pay for it. he made a call himself to the
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mexican president today, spoke upwards of an hour. don't know what the results of the call was. to try maybe to make nice, i don't know how you'd describe it. in a later interview with christian broadcasting, said i'm still for the tax, some sort of tariff without calling it a tariff on goods coming in from mexico to pay for this things. are you open to that? you think that is doable? >> you know, we're looking at creative ways to pay for this. we will have a border emergency spending bill in the congress coming up in the next couple months. i'll be working with secretary kelly on what the wall will look like, aviation technology assets. on the front end, we'll appropriate the dollars out of congress. on the back end, we're looking at some creative ideas like the border, adjustable tax rate. right now we tax experts but not
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imports. >> neil: i hear the 20% figure come up or something like that. >> it's a bit arbitrary. it's a little early to be -- we're looking at all sorts of ideas in the congress. again, right now, we currently tax experts and not imports and punish american manufacturers. very consistent with the trump administration theme here to protect america first. we're looking at this awed of paul ryan, looking at it, in terms of a revenue enhancer that would bring the number of i was told, about a trillion dollar investment in the united states. so if that is a way the president can say mexico helps pay for the wall, that may not be a bad idea. >> neil: thanks, chairman, michael mccall out of austin. the read on that and what to make of this, the president sort
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of retargets our border and tries to make sure that we're safe, lieutenant colonel tony shaffer back with us and colonel mcguinness. the wall is going up. it's a serious wall and its happening. the president is throwing a lot of ideas out there, border tax, a host of other ways to technically have the mexicans pay for it. we would kind of pay that, the american consumers would, but i guess the devil's in the details. what do you think of that, that this is the best way to go about it? >> well, the president just following through on a campaign promise. he's going to defend this country. obviously includes building a wall in his opinion, raising thousands of border agents and getting serious about those that try to come into this country, especially as the chairman said moments ago from seven countries that are known to produce islam mist terrorists.
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so i think the president is just following through with all of these things that long ago he promised. he's credible. he sounded i think proud to be there, something that we haven't heard in awhile quite frankly and standing there in the hall of heros with 3,500 names etched in the wall behind him sends a very clear and a warming message to those of us that work in the building and those of us across the world that seek and reinforcement, the strengthening and america first. >> neil: tony, one of the things he talked about is reinforcing the border, whether the mexicans pay for it or we do, it's going to happen. what do you want to see? people talk about a physical wall. some say that's not feasible across the entire border. someone that looks after our security, worried about it, what would you like to see? >> militarily, as patton said, you know, these obstacles are not adequate without other
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things. so the concept is good but you have to do intelligence preparation, the battle space. you have to look at this in depth. the mexicans have been terrible about not just allowing mexicans across the border. many refugees are from honduras, any other latin america countries. they're just coming through. we have to look at how to create a defense in depth and to include then stopping terrorists and other folks being able to penetrate the border. this is what has been horrific the past administration has handled that. it's not about wall. it's about building multiple concepts and looking at using intelligence where you think people are building up to come across. you have to look apartment counter drug, tunnels. i'd like to base this on john kelly taking over dhs, another military man, a marine. we'll see more complex thinking, much like who was produced when the border was conceived about
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five years ago. >> neil: switching gears a little bit, robert. vladimir putin's name came up today at the press conference with theresa may, the british prime minister and the president once again said what he said before. i don't know vladimir putin. i hope that i can get along. i don't know if i'll like him or disliking him. but we'll see. how do you think that's going along? seemed like the day before with republicans gathering in philadelphia for their retreat, that the british prime minister was saying kind of a new version of, all right, that's fine, trust by verify. play off the old ronald reagan line. are you in that camp? >> i'm very concerned about the russians. they have increased their capability across the board. vladimir putin is just the tip of the iceberg. most of the russian people support him. the attitude that comes through in their media and to the american public i think from
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vladimir putin is indicative of what they feel. they have very strong ambitions. they want a restoration of what they had one time prior to the end of the cold war. putin has made no pretense about that. he wants that. we've seen expansion of their capabilities in places like syria, which is indicative of their foreign policy. they're pushing hard in the baltics and of course in the ukraine. so across the world, russia is a threat. i hope president trump can negotiate with mr. putin and find some sort of reconciliation so that we're not so confrontational. make no secret about it, the russians are a threat and we need to deal with them appropriately, but i would be very hesitant about taking the first step. let them make that. >> neil: we know about a phone call tomorrow between pvladimir putin and see how that goes. we know from theresa may that
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the president still stands by nato. he didn't say that. she did, that he said that. i don't know what the true case is. how do you feel that is going along and how you feel europe is reacting or whether easing up now on it's initial concerns about the president? >> look, i know for a fact that nike flynn has had discussions on what i call nato 2.0. we were quiet -- we talked about this a little bit. there's a group of us quietly working to advise the chairman of the joint chiefs, a guy name james mattis was the validater. we've been looking at this for a while. one of the recommendations we made before this came up, let's look at how we can make 24th centu century relevant. i mentioned this to mr. trump in august. they were thinking, how do we make nato relevant. i'd like to believe what you saw is an outgrowth of donald
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trump's self-education to figure out how to sustain native and make it more effective. >> neil: thanks, gem -- gentlemen to say nothing to your service of the country. he's been president for a week. wow! more after this. the kids to get a repair estimate. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. my insurance company definitely doesn't have that... you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance
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whether you voted for him or not, whether you like him or not, that's not just story hour here. this is a whole new way of doing business. tomorrow, the cost of freedom, we kick it off, it's your life, your money, it is your preside. >> hello, everyone, i am kimberly guilfoyle. it is 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." president trump closing out his first full week in office with a trip to the pentagon to meet with the joint chiefs of staff and take part in a ceremonial swear-in. after the ceremony, the president signed new executive actions at the department. >> first i am signing an executive order to begin a great rebuilding of the armed services of the united states, developing a plan for new planes, new ships, new resources, and

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