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trace gallagher in california. to review, the dow hit a record of 118 points. president indicating that a plan is out there, fingers crossed. see you tomorrow. >> i'm kimberly guilfoyle with bob beckel, eric bolling, dana perino and greg got failed. it is 5:00 in new york city and this is >> eric: . when president trump took office, he o major crackdown on illegal immigration. today his homeland security department laid out the plans. issuing new guidelines to agencies to tighten security at our border and deport criminals in this country illegally. changes would spare so-called dreamers, leaving protections in place that came here illegally as children. here was the president on the implementation today. >> president trump: we have to
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have a safe country. we have to let people come and who are going to love the country. this is about love. this building is about love and we need people coming in who love the country, not people who are going to harm the country. were going to try to take care of the dreamers very, very well. >> kimberly: mr. trump's statements are consistent with promises made during the campaign to make sure to pick out the people who offend and are criminal recidivists to not let them stay in the country but also specifying that dreamers would be taken care of. dana, what do you think about the distinction on the position between the statement now and the executive order? >> dana: is like the mulligan executive order. he gets another chance to make a first impression and i think this is going better. you have a secretary in place who can layout the guidelines. the dreamers issue is a
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troubling, interesting issue. during the campaign there were immigration restriction is who wanted to dreamers to be taken out of the country. that was an issue that president trump as the candidate glossed over and when he met with president obama in the first meeting in the oval office, they were there for 90 minutes. apparently president obama talked to him about the dreamers in particular. and said can you please take a look at that. be kind and cautious in dealing with them. i think where president trump ended up is where the majority of the country will be able to support him and i don't think there will be as much controversy. >> kimberly: it's been a tough issue in the past for previous presidents and republicans who have tried to struggle putting forward a strong immigration program to protect borders while respecting those who have been here. >> dana: and were brought here as children. they didn't break the law personally.
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they are here, they've been educated here. the question is can their parents stay here? is probably going to be yes. >> kimberly: greg, welcome back. >> greg: why can't we all be dreamers? wire we designated a certain group of people as dreamers. i'm a dreamer. there are things i dream about. >> kimberly: that's inappropriate. >> greg: if it's my dream, why can't it? i think you and hold two ideas simultaneously. you can embrace immigration and realize this country attracts the best, people who take risks tend to be people who invent things and make the world a better place but we also attract the worst. people want to come here and dismantle what makes this country special. what makes this country special, our freedom, is what encourages people to come here.
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you see how it's intertwined. you've got to focus on the bad to preserve the good and i'm hoping we see an evolution where we look at borders and national security in the era of isis is the same thing. it's a safety net that protects us. liberals talk about sanctuary cities. we are thinking bigger. we are calling it a sanctuary country. you come here and you are guaranteed safety from the bad people all around the world. a sanctuary this country requires borders. >> kimberly: this is, people have been anticipating that this is a big focus of the campaign part of the movement, people want to focus on borders and immigration people. what do you think so far? >> eric: i'm reading through the executive order. a couple things they hit on,
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hiring 5,000 new border agents. another 500 air and sea agents. funding for the physical borders in here as well, enforcing the law, cooperation between i.c.e. and local municipalities. >> kimberly: you need that conductivity. >> eric: it addresses it but doesn't define it. they didn't exactly say what they are going to do with sanctuary city municipalities that harbor illegals who are there. doesn't really spell it out. though when is interesting is identifying and quantifying sources of aid to mexico. in other words, if we don't like what's going on here, there are several, tens of billions of dollars in aid to mexico in various forms that they may consider holding back or at least tying to some of the enforcement. i think this is very, very good but as dana points out, some of the dreamer stuff, the prioritizing of who gets
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deported doesn't is somewhat addressed but not spelled out completely. again, what were going to do with sanctuary cities. i would like to see that further spelled out. >> kimberly: bob, does this work better for you in terms of specifics? and the focus that this will not do further harm to the dreamers. >> bob: can i say one thing? after yesterday i received over 1,000 tweets from people out there that were negative. i expected. i've used wage. whoever said something about my daughter, don't ever, ever bring my family into this. if you have the guts to do it on twitter, have the guts to come see me. i think it's comprehensive. >> eric: did you just call out
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one twitter person in the audience? >> bob: yes. >> eric: i agree families are off limits. >> bob: neither george bush nor barack obama, when you talk about catch and release, according to the dhs, there was never one who was a murderer or rapist who was picked up or released. if you look at the order, it really does open up the possibility of getting 10 million people that fall into that category. the question is who's going to pay for all this? this is $100 billion. the other thing about the wall is 600-some odd miles of the wall.
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fundamental waste of money and they are never going to build i it. >> greg: how do you deal with the eminent domain thing? >> bob: it's not going to happen, greg. it's not going to happen. >> greg: how do you address that? >> eric: they have addressed it. he said from the very beginning he was going to use eminent domain to build this border wall. >> greg: but he lost without one woman. >> bob: the government has lost about ten people, ranchers. >> kimberly: this issue was covered in the press conference today with press secretary sean spicer. he was asked if mass deportation was one of the administration's goals. >> what we have to get back to his understanding a couple things.
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there's a line place that says if you are in this country illegally that we have an obligation to make sure that the people who are in our country are here illegally. with the order sets out today is to ensure that the million or so people that have been adjudicated already that i.c.e. prioritizes, and to make sure we walked through the system to make sure we protect the country. >> kimberly: these are people who have had an adjudication. this meant due process provided any determination made so the next step is it actually needs to be enforced. you take the position of the people who have already had adjudication and then there's removal. what's wrong with that? >> eric: i don't see anything wrong with it. sean spicer was asked will there be a mass deportation. he said absolutely not. >> bob: that was the question? forest. a >> eric: forest and mass deportation. he said no.
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if you read prioritizing criminal prosecutions for immigration, sean spicer talked about removing the criminal aliens first. this public reporting of border apprehension data. >> bob: anyone who was broken the law that's in the country falls into this category. not prioritized, i agree. the ones who are least likely to be a problem are near the bottom but they are all under this order. if you want to get rid of 10 million people, it's going to cost you -- >> eric: you said there hasn't been anyone who committed serious crimes that were released, caught and released but there have been many aliens who have been released to have committed massive numbers of crimes, violent crimes. murder, rape, kidnapping. >> bob: if they were caught they were sent back home.
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>> eric: not always. they were sent home and they come back in. >> bob: do you think that's going to stop here? >> eric: i don't think it's going to stop but when you put the border wall up and you put 5,000 additional border agents on the border, they will apprehend them at the border. >> kimberly: you're not going to have people come back into murder innocents like kate steinle. >> greg: its own risk. when you are disgusting security, the media focus focun the isolated cases like the weeping mother being taken away. that's what they focus on. they don't focus on the cases where people are harmed by illegal alien fugitive felons. instead they cherry pick the cases where oh, my god. this is what security does. >> bob: find out about how wrong you are. they're more stories about illegals who come in here.
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>> kimberly: this is specifying people who are criminal offenders, people who are repeat offenders. there is absolutely nothing wrong with enforcing the existing laws that are on the books in the country. we know what the rules are they are followed. >> bob: you are not going to get your bedmate at your hotel. >> kimberly: how rude and racist is that statement? >> bob: go ahead. >> greg: i don't like getting my bed made at the hotel. >> kimberly: you don't like getting out of bed. >> eric: there is really nothing that's out of the ordinary with the exception of the border wall and may be looking at the funding we give to mexico. this is pretty much the standard immigration law that we have in place. it just means enforcing the current law. >> bob: in fairness to bush and obama, they did what they could do to enforce the law. you didn't like the release thing for certain people and there were probably people who were released to became hardened
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criminals. i agree with that. but you are talking about 10 million people and it's impossible. >> dana: in addition to the issue -- i think there will be a deterrent effect so maybe people were thinking about coming over illegally decide maybe it's not worth the risk that i also think that what this doesn't deal with yet, unless i missed something, is that there still needs to be born to address visa over stays. that's where you have the largest number of people here illegally. they came here, maybe they were on a legal visa and they stayed and how do you find them? >> kimberly: people who, on a tourist visa. >> greg: listening to bob, everybody protesting about this should take in at least one illegal fugitive in their home. even if you have kids, you should make room for these innocent strangers because from your perspective every single
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person here is innocent. if you feel that way, maybe take them in your home. >> kimberly: we are just getting started. president trump addressed a wave of recent anti-semitic incidents targeting jewish institutions across the country. his strong condemnation next. t? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. in fact, 4 out of 10 even achieved completely clear skin. do not use if you are allergic to taltz. before starting you should be checked for tuberculosis. taltz may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated
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♪ >> eric: welcome back. we want to turn to the anti-semitic incidents going on across the country. at least 11 jewish community centers have been targets of bomb threats. missouri, vandals toppled tombstones at a jewish cemetery. president trump condemned the actions earlier today. >> president trump: this tour was a meaningful reminder of why we have to fight bigotry, intolerance, and hatred in the in all of its very ugly forms. the anti-seing our jewish commuy and community centers are horrible and are painful and a very sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root
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out hate and prejudice and evil. >> eric: as far as the president is concerned, can the left stop with the fake news that he is an anti-semite. jared kushner is a senior advisor, very senior. can we make the fake news story go away? anti-semitism and bigotry and whatnot. >> bob: i thought it was a good statement and i'm glad he did it. he's the one west to do it and i'm glad he led the way. i give him a lot of credit. if you are right about his daughter and i don't believe he's an anti-semite. i don't think folks on the left do either. the question i have for you is last year, the year before that and the year before that, these things didn't happen. why are they happening now?
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>> greg: can i answer that? when these incidents are covered, the media jumped to their own assumptions about thi this. somebody has to talk about the fact that in the last three or four months there have been a lot of hate crimes that have turned out to be not what they seem to be. when you can get attention for doing something, you do it. i do think that the media fans the flames. how many times that we covered a hate crime that turns out to be a hoax? this could be someone who's doing it for one reason or another. we don't know. it's important for every group to police the freaks on their side, left or right. if you are a modern muslim, you should be policing your radical muslims. if you have right wing racist or left-wing racist. let's not forget the left practically applauded writing in berkeley. >> eric: you watch enough cable news and you see what's going on in some of the left-leaning print media, they
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are calling trump an anti-semite and yet these hoaxes are targeting jewish community centers. how could he be an anti-semite? >> kimberly: they want to blame friday on him. friday follows thursday. it doesn't matter what it is, they are going to try to attribute, tie it to him. this is a very serious and grave concern to me. religious freedom and liberty is so important. it's what we were founded on and what our forefathers fought for. it's disturbing to me that 60% of religious crimes that are committed are against people in the jewish unity. it's something to be taken very seriously. >> eric: will also have a sound bite of keith ellison, who wants to be the democratic national committee chairman, who has been a big supporter of louis farrakhan. >> united states foreign policy in the middle east is governed
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by what is good or bad in a country of 7 million people. it turns on a country of 7 million. >> eric: dana, your thoughts. >> dana: there's going to be a debate for the dnc chair and he's one of them. he has strong support from some places but in other places in particular the jewish immunity it has dropped off and understandably so. vigilance for religious tolerance is something every president can set the groundwork for so i think the statement today by president trump was a good one. greg's point about the copycat issue. several years ago there were
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nooses found in trees and it kept getting attention and there was more of it. what other things president trump can do to back of his words today as it struck the intelligence community and law enforcement to work together with local police department, try to figure out who is doing it because if it's just one person that would be easier. if it's bigger than that, it would be good to know. >> bob: these are 11 reported crimes. they are real. the president wouldn't raise them if they weren't real. don't blame it on the left. >> greg: what i am trying to say is i've been following these incidents since they started, even before. a lot of them unfortunately are done for attention seeking purposes. i don't know if that's the case here but we have to address the possibility that that's the case that when the media goes up and report that, they've got to understand that at certain times they fanned the flames. >> eric: is ellison an
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anti-semite? >> bob: i don't know. >> kimberly: shouldn't be elected. >> eric: if you are willing -- >> bob: is banned in an anti-semite? >> eric: >> greg: has strong competition from louis farrakhan's, so we'll see what happens. >> eric: a dangerous gang member freed from jail last week killed a cop and wounded another yesterday. he has repeatedly violated the terms of his probation. he never should have been out on the streets. greg has more on this when we return. those bonds were definitely tested. frog leg, for my baby brother don't frogs have like, two legs? so they should have two of these? since i'm active duty and she's family, i was able to set my sister up with a sweet membership from navy federal. if you hold it closer, it looks bigger.
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classifying felonies as lesser crimes. >> we need to wake up. enough is enough. passing these proposition, creating these laws. it is not good for our communities or officers. >> greg: according to the lieutenant in charge, the suspect had a long rap sheet but was paroled a week or so ago. it's odd that when faced with too many felons the instinct is not to build more prisons but let the felons go. besides killing officer keith boyer and shooting another, the gang member killed his cousin and stole his vehicl vehicle. officer boyer was responding to the accident rate it's a tragic reminder that actions have consequences. release a thug into a community and innocent people get hurt and some of our very best die. criminals are just -- if they
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slid those metal doors open and assumed you could bear the risk, then sanctuary state my ass. talk about the priorities. infrastructure is crumbling, they can't house their bad guys, they have a huge gang problem but they have the money to higher eric holder. talk about dreamers. they need to wake up. this guy, the murderer. he cycled in and out of jail repeatedly, had violated terms of his release. what do you make of it? >> kimberly: the information from the sheriffs department. when you look at his face, look at it. what it shows you is someone who is a repeat criminal, violent felon who has been a prison. you can see by the gang markings on his face, the tattoos. this is somebody who's been in a very serious facility. i look at that photo and say
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this guy has been in a maximum security prison. yes, he was. pelican bay state prison, one of the worst prisons for one of the most serious violent offenders. he comes out of there and commits another offense. this is somebody that under the current system would not be allowed to be here and return. that's one of their big points that we are making. do you want to see that face gunning down someone you love? that type of individual has -- is going to get out and reoffend. he has done this. it's so disturbing. can you imagine the police officers family members saying this could have and should have been prevented by enforcing the rule of law that's on the books. >> greg: i think the chief was referring to bill 109 which was enacted to reduce prison overcrowding.
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why not build more prisons? it's an industry. it creates jobs. releasing pro rata fish into a fish tank. >> dana: you realize that the public debate doesn't center on that. there is an over criminalization and that the prisons are too crowded because the laws are too strict, especially when it comes to drug enforcement. the war on drugs, and it's not just the war on drugs but that's one of the arguments for you actually do have bipartisan agreement on that point but that's where this debate is going to get bogged down. and you have the specifics of word you draw the line. something like this, what you would think why would you ever let him out? but this debate, i think you will see more of it. >> greg: this guy was stopping to help this guy because no one was going to give him a ride. >> eric: this table as we date we in every viewer is going to hate me right now but this is one of those guys that probably
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should have -- he's nonviolent, nonserious, nonfine -- non sex offender. none of these are violent crimes that would have landed him in jail behind bars. he >> kimberly: he's a documented street gang member. you don't go to pelican bay state prison for simple, random. >> eric: he was on probation for nonviolent offenders. >> greg: grand theft auto and robbery, those are serious. >> kimberly: those are violent felonies. robbery is. there's no way around that. no, this person isn't someone who was suitable. 109 is obviously a problem. >> bob: i don't think he should have been released but these roots go back to the
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original three strikes and you're out under the reagan administration. three times you are arrested, imprisoned and you weren't allowed to get out. a lot of nonviolent drug offenders are in there. guys like they should stay in there. the other thing is that law was passed because the appellate division ordered california to stop overcrowding and the overwhelming number of those people on that particular -- >> kimberly: this is a realignment from federal parole agents to monitor him to local, a local probation officer. with tens of thousands of cases. that's not someone who's going to properly supervise someone like this. >> bob: it's the courts order. what are you going to do? >> greg: officer boyer was known for his willingness to help and that's how he died at age 53. >> kimberly: god bless him. >> greg: going to florida for a big town hall tonight on immigration. there she is. we will get a previewhu ahead.
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♪ >> dana: americans remain divided over president trump's immigration agenda. for the mcallen will talking to some folks on all sides of the debate. she is moderating a live town hall on the "first 100 days." she joins us with a preview. martha, set us up for tonight. you're going to be talking to the mayor of miami. >> when we originally started the tillerson program, we said we were going to go out to places that were pivotal in the election and talk to people about how satisfied they are. they voted for donald trump. they think about his priorities. immigration has been a priority. we will have the mayor of miami-dade county who was the first to step out front and say he would turn around the
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sanctuary city status of miami-dade county. that got him a lot of backlash. were going to talk to him about that and if he is sticking by his decision. >> kimberly: we were talking at the table about how you go about preparing for one of these town halls in terms of the audience composition and how you go about getting them to participate. i think the viewers might like to know that. >> a -- we had a scout team. we had other people associate with the issues. a wounded warrior veteran, and lawyers. we have people identified with the movement against immigration. you will see professionals mixed in with regular folks. we have a woman and her daughter from the jacksonville area who lived in san francisco. as you know, kimberly, what life is like they are in a sanctuary
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city. i think it's going to be of good mix of people talking about how satisfied they are or unsatisfied they are with their vote. >> bob: i assume you get to ask the questions. i want to ask if you would do me a favor. 90% of the undocumented people in the united states are workers. they work. if they all go away, who is going to take their place? is there a chance to ask if they would be willing to take some of these jobs request mexico i know steve harrigan did some reporting for us this week and there are places and farms where there is no one to pick their crops and that's an issue. whether or not you can convince american workers to take over those jobs or whether you have some immigration reform and allow people to be able to work those jobs in a working arrangement that could eventually lead to citizenship. the big picture on reform as what your question goes to them
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we will talk about it. >> eric: martha, i noticed you have stephen miller, white house advisor on the show. that will be interesting. i went through the executive order they put out as it looks almost like current law. maybe we can distant was what's different with your executive order versus what the current law is or are they just enforcing current law with the exception of adding the border? >> on the new memo today, i think you're right we have talked about it. they are enforcing current law with this homeland security memo, the executive order that has to do with the border. they don't have to pass anything new. and as you well know, eric, the i.c.e. agents and the border controller going to get 10,000 more individuals. 5,000 respectively, to help them do their jobs. they have felt they have been
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liberated to do their job under the course of this administration so far. those agencies are energized by this memo today as we know that secretary kelly is determined to this job and so far he's not had to step out of bounds in terms of passing new laws to do it. >> eric: martha, your show is called "100 days." doesn't it already feel like 100 days? >> day 72? we are day 31. after the weekend i always have to do a recount by day 31. it's amazing. it's been a fire hose of activity and it has kept us busy, that's for sure. he's going to exhaust everyone. >> dana: peter is watching at home. make sure to dvr or third show. i don't want to miss it.
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don't miss "the first 100 days" tonight. is there such a thing as trump trauma? bob says he has a bad case of i it.
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♪ >> bob: many americans like myself are concerned about the future of our country. turning out in droves to protest the new president and his policies. there are a number of people who do like them. here is howard dean's assessment. >> i am betting that these young people who have been traumatized by the election. it was essentially a reneging on every value on people under 35 have. >> bob: it's not just young people, howard. a lot of people are traumatized and the republicans are going to pay for it, to use donald trump's word, big league. >> eric: 25 senators are up in 2018. ten of them are in states that trump won. good luck, north dakota,
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west virginia, missouri. democrats have to defend eight none of the senate seats. >> bob: when was the last time time -- >> eric: all those young people complaining. we talked about this quite a bit. they should have voted. if you're so upset, get out there and vote. >> kimberly: what a bunch of babies. life is hard, bob, right? it is. people are complaining, crybabies, snowflakes about everything. for what? all right, bob. the majority of us are lucky enough to be able to work hard, try to earn what we want to get a life or provide for our families and half of these people didn't even vote. that's the problem. the seven biggest generation the country, they will do five.
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-- they will do fine. >> bob: 14% of the people who voted for trump wouldn't vote for him again, according to pew. >> greg: if you think about honor killings or rape of women who are guilty of adultery, sharia law. they are trying to create chaos and failure but the problem is it's a critical error because that's what he's used to any functions best when he's under attack. the more you do this, the more it helps them.
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>> kimberly: saying they are traumatized. making moderates move towards trump. >> bob: look at millennials. >> eric: how could you be traumatized? >> bob: i don't agree with what he said. >> dana: wave elections usually happen in the first midterm of any president. 2002 was because of 9/11. any president should be doing what president trump is already doing which is thinking about how to shore up and make sure that doesn't happen to him as well. it did happen to reagan. it happened to clinton, george h.w. bush and obama. the pattern as they. i would point out, i don't want to get into an argument, but the 2016 national polls were more
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accurate than the 2012 poles. >> bob: "one more thing" is up next.
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three strikes you're out was bill clinton, not ronald reagan. 90% of illegals working it's, actually 71%. >> dana: that was the original purpose of "one more thing." to clarify bob. >> eric: quickly. if you look at "the wall street journal," there is a great story about how crime rates have been very flat in many cities. however in these four cities, the murder rates, not just the numbers, the rates are rising. chicago, milwaukee. memphis is soaring in baltimore highest since 1970. that's basically to tote gang wars which greg pointed out and the crack trade. murder rates are rising in these four cities. still low in l.a. and new york. >> bob: is it my turn? i used to listen to eric and kimberly talk about how much
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golf obama played. obama had his first golf round in april. donald trump so far has had six rounds of golf. it has cost us $10 million to send that boy down to play golf and on top of that it cost us $500,000 a day for security for his wife. you wonder about obama, it was 60 days in. trump didn't wait a week. the guy is a golfer. he is a president. >> kimberly: he has excellent company he golfs with. dana. >> dana: it's time for this. dana's reading assignment. i was driving everybody crazy. i email everyone. reading assignment.
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"commentary magazine" this is getting a lot of attention. it is called "our miserable 21st century." talking about the economic conditions since the year 2000 and how different it is from the post-world war ii economy. it's on our facebook page. half of all prime laborforce dropouts, 7 million men, currently taking pain medication on a daily basis. 21% of their -- of them are on medicaid. 3/5 were reportedly collecting disability benefits. you can see from the article the decline. >> eric: there's another one in there, working men dropping out of the workforce. full-time going part-time. massive numbers. >> dana: that's your reading assignment. >> kimberly: and happy baby news, friends of ours that --
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nbc. her brand-new baby girl. she has welcomed the new baby girl through adoption, born on valentine's day. >> i never, ever imagined i could feel this kind of -- it's like a warm hand on my heart and it feels like it's the only way it should feel. i am over the moon. >> kimberly: so sweet. we are super happy for her. she's going to make an amazing mother. >> greg: greg's lindsay lohan news. she was on good morning britain where she claimed at heathrow airport she was racially profiled when they asked her to take off her headscarf. i want to point out that religion is not a race.
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let's remember that. and also i did bn prove that this actually happens. >> kimberly: set your dvrs. never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. >> a new push to enforce existing immigration law with a zero tolerance policy for illegal immigrants committing felonies. after a shaky start, president trump's immigration policy stars to take shape. this is "special report" ." good evening. welcome to washington. after his first effort was largely rejected by the courts, president trump is launching a second round of moves aimed at coping with illegal immigration and accelerating deportations. it is both a strategic and tactical change working within the rules, as they are now written. it is separate from


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