the market momentum going, rand paul with an idea and how to settle the tax debate in the health care debate. quickly and avoid all the food fighting. that will do it from here. we will see you back in new york tomorrow. >> dana: i'm dana perino with kimberly guilfoyle, juan williams eric bolling, and greg gutfeld, this is "the five" ." it was a speech unlike any other we've seen from president trump, his first address to a joint session of congress, winning widespread praise. it was the most presidential with ever seen mr. trump, he struck an optimistic and conciliatory tone while delivering his message of unity and strength. >> we are one people with one destiny.
we all bleed the same blood. we also looked the same great american flag. and we all are made by the same god. i am asking all citizens to embrace this renewal of the american spirit. i'm asking all members of congress to join me in dreaming big and bold and daring things for our country. i am asking everyone watching tonight to seize this moment, believe in yourselves, believe in your future, and believe once more in america. >> dana: he repeated a number of themes from the campaign trail, including his america first agenda. >> america must put its own citizens first because only then can we truly make america great again. we will respect the foreign rights of all nations, and they
have to respect our rights as a nation also. free nations of the best vehicle for expressing the will of the people, and america respects the right of all nations to charge their own path. my job is not to represent the world. my job is to represent the united states of america. >> dana: the speech, lasting a little over an hour, and i don't think anybody lost interest. >> greg: it was a home run. how do you know? if you see the bitter, wistful tweets from hollywood as it was going on, they sounded like plaintive cries from a while. sarah silverman and patton oswald didn't know what to do. i don't think you heard anything from the clinton side. you didn't hear from hilary. you didn't hear from her lingering daughter, what's her name? there was nothing they could put their hands on. the best metaphor i can come up with is this election season has been like a long-haul flight
where, it begins in turbulent weather. going up, it was frightening. as you're climbing, there's these bumps. last night you finally hit smooth air. everyone was like, you know what, it might be okay. maybe he's not hitler. maybe he's pretty good. he think about the democrats, as they are listening to things that they agree with, what are you going to do. you are like a polar bear on a shrinking piece of ice. you are going to be the last person on the ice ignoring the things he is saying and you're going to have to find a backup plan to hate donald trump when it turns out that darth vader really is your dad. a lot of the stuff he said -- >> kimberly: and he's a good guy. >> a kid once told me polar bears can swim but they can't swim forever. i was thinking about you last night, eric. i can show you my notes.
one of the things was someone said if the pundits liked it, it must mean the people did not because of what they've seen from him as a candidate but i think it worked for both audiences. >> eric: there is a pullout, 70% approval rating. >> dana: is this a poll we like? >> kimberly: it's valid. >> eric: for the first time after her speech and in the morning, the opposite party pundits had to say "you know what? we gave him a chance and i liked it." there were a couple from different networks saying he became president last night. van jones at cnn. here's the kicker. now, never trumpers don't have an argument, at least for now. >> dana: why can't you look at it the other way? maybe now they have somebody they can agree with. >> eric: the opposition party of the democrats and then the
anti-trumpers and the pro-trump group. now they're saying he is compelling and patriotic. two and a half minute standing ovation. they're going to have a hard time pushing back on him now. it puts the democrats in a box. this morning you saw pelosi and schumer coming out negative on the speech. it almost highlights they are about being obstructionists. not about what's best for america. all they are as anti-trump. >> dana: this will be a good conversation for another day. i wanted to mention something that obama's former speechwriter said. good speech. now comes the policy. onboard. 48 hours, it's not going to last that long if you are a democrat that's upset. you will have plenty of things you can complain about in the next four years. >> kimberly: they have to give him credit because that speech was phenomenal. well delivered, inspirational.
whether you are a democrat or a republican and you love this country and you want to see families doing well and you want to see wholesale policy change in a positive direction, that was more than encouraging. you sound by the applause he got from both sides. a lot of things we talked about he did hit in that speech. it was very emotional, including the part with the navy seal, the widow, really incredible in terms of the emotion. no one can deny that. >> dana: i thought it was an american moment, which we are going to show after we get juan's take. after sleeping on it, any different thoughts when you woke up? >> juan: i thought he did his job. i am flattered. i am wearing the tile you gave me for christmas. the trump tie. it's like a significant.
i'm so flattered. you are interpreting this speech in the terms of the way democrats reacted. i think you should be thinking about the republicans reacted because their reaction is wow. it's okay. we can play ball. he didn't give you specific spirit he didn't give you anything you could hold on to. people said this was going to be different but given what happened during the inauguration speech when he was bombastic and talking about american carnage. it was awful. all of a son, now republicans are like, no, no, no. he did it. he's okay. we can work with him, but as far as democrats, you guys are wishing up a hill. >> kimberly: he actually took it serious, in terms of making sure he wanted it to be warmer, about unity. i think he hit the message. >> juan: at the top, i felt
the piece was stitched on, the thing about the jewish community in the attacks on the jewish community centers and graveyards. i think it was important that he did it. i don't know if it was jared's work or whatever but i think it was appropriate and helpful. that might've been the most unifying message. >> greg: i think i said this to you in november, juan. if you don't like donald trump in november, just give him some time because he changes very he's changed his political positions a lot. it's interesting to see republicans culpable rhinos now embracing him because that was a pure, down the middle centrist republican party campaigned on red meat but he's governing on free range chicken. which a lot of people happen to like. if you're not an ideologue, you've got to be okay with it. >> juan: a lot of people in the republican caucus are ideologues. they don't want to compromise. the question is, is it a pivot? we have been looking for the presidential pipit for a long
time. or was that they had fake? >> dana: let's get to the most dramatic moment of the night. it was what can really member mentioned. president trump saluted fallen navy seal ryan owens and his wife carryn. >> the challenges we face are great but our people are greater. and none are greater or braver than those who fight for america in uniform. we are blessed to be joined tonight by carryn owens, the widow of u.s. navy special operator senior chief william ryan owens. ryan died as he lived, a warrior and a hero, battling against terrorism and securing our nation. ryan's legacy is etched into eternity. thank you. [applause]
>> dana: for those of you who saw that, it was a long and sustained ovation, eric. i know it's not without its controversy but i feel like everybody that was standing there was really doing it for her and for the sacrifice of her amazing husband. >> eric: a two and a half minute ovation. that line, his name, ryan owens. his name will be etched into eternity. it was a fantastic line donald trump delivered. in the aftermath, the despicable lefty saying he threw them in there and the part about the general saying there was intelligence gleaned from the raid that unfortunately we lost ryan owens. as a way to hide from blame for losing him. it's awful. if you listen to, if you watched the speech. you could not keep your tears back. you had to cry along with carryn owens while that was going on.
the left wanted to play politics of it. donald trump, if you wanted to be political, he could've said, look, this is an operation started prior to me taking office. it was in operation i condoned on january 28 when there was a full moon and the general said it has to be done under a full moon so i said go. but he didn't say any of that. he said give this woman her moment. give ryan owens his moment. there are a lot of people felt that moment right there was a moment donald trump became potus 45 for the people who weren't supporters. >> juan: i agree. it was like terrific television. he produced that moment, worked for the moment but i recall you and greg were highly critical when obama did something similar back in 2014. you said it was a shield from legitimate criticism. >> greg: i have to say i'm conflicted about this type of exercise, and i hesitate to use -- the criticism as they are using people as props and both
sides do it so if the democrats are going to do it, the republicans can do it. the difference here is i don't think you could find a more real response than a woman looking up to this guy for her late husband. >> dana: final word, kimberly. >> kimberly: i think it was a poignant example and reminder that freedom does not come without a price and he put his life on the line like so many men and women do to secure our liberty and freedom. it was pure human emotion peer he deserved it. president trump called, went to go see them and i think that was one of the first things that happened to him as president of the united states. to know you have lives in your hands and it's your personal responsibility to make choices and choices that occur in a horrible loss of life and casualty. he had a wonderful tribute. >> dana: ryan owens comes from a family of public servants,
absolutely amazing and we are grateful. >> greg: i have a piece of advice. trump's speech was probably the best speech he's ever done, i would say. don't ruin the moment by bragging about it. walk away like it was no big deal. >> dana: somebody said today people were surprised they thought it was great because it's things he's always had. >> greg: i think he shouldn't have to bring it up. don't say today or tomorrow. everybody love the speech. act like it was no big deal. >> kimberly: hit the half-court shot and walk away. >> eric: the only tweet was thank you. >> dana: we can do it for him. 40 million people watched. >> greg: it was the largest, and fox was number one. >> dana: many democrats did not look happy last night during the president's address. greg's reaction to reaction. >> in 2016, the earth shifted beneath our feet.
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>> greg: i felt sorry for the democrats watching trump, so grim and so sad, so constipated. for them it's like watching a band you hate cover a song you love. trump saying things they wanted to hear but it's from him. they are like a child who refuses to play with an awesome toy because it's hand-me-down. debbie wasserman schultz and keith ellison, look at them. they are like mice had a cat party. terrified to move a muscle, even during the most moving passages. their faces is taught as a double strong tennis racket. it was as if remaining still was an actual political stance. for the democratic party, it is. check out the odd response after trumps speech. it was like a play put on by hostages. >> i am steve beshear. i was governor of kentucky from 2007 to 2015. now i'm a private citizen. i am here in lexington,
kentucky, some 400 miles from washington at a diner with neighbors. democrats and republicans. we just watched the president's address. i'm a proud democrat, but first and foremost, i am a proud republican and democrat and mostly american. >> greg: that was about and staged as an open casket. spectators as stiff as a wax museum resembling a diorama of trumps america, they pick a white guy is the lead. no cory booker, no kamal harris. -- kemal harris trying to say that we are braced identity and division. too late. for years, you embraced soaring rhetoric. trump went another way. he replaced a mode of drama with relatable ideas. it was as scary to the democrats as it was convincing to everyone
else. maybe that explains their frozen fear, the speechworks and they knew it. juan, that was the weirdest rebuttal. it was like they reconstructed it in a grad student stream. this is how trumps america would look. we need some older white people here. no cory booker. >> juan: i liked what you said about the diorama. that's what it looked like. this would've come from charles schumer. and nancy pelosi. he had put together a popular, successful version of obamacare in kentucky and that's what they were after. >> greg: i thought they were mailing it in. this is a former governor. he's not even working. >> eric: this is an opportunity to show you are the up-and-coming party. i tweeted "better luck next
time, dams. look forward to 2024." i think they are locking trump into a second term already. governor beshear. 70-year-old white guy. >> dana: are we going to complain about 70-year-old white guys? >> eric: no. these events, as you well know, stage them, usually of color, white, black, hispanic, men, women. those are all staged with a 72-year-old former governor who went rambling on. he called himself a republican. no, i'm a democrat. a little bit distracted. but you stage it with people who looked just like him. take a look at the picture. i'm not kidding. these are chosen people. as the democratic party, is it out of touch or is the bench not
that deep? >> juan: i thought you'd be synthetic to the idea that they are reaching out to blue-collar white america. >> eric: the democrats saying you know what? we are doing our autopsy and we have pivoted back to middle america. is that they they are going to do now? >> juan: i don't think they left middle america but clearly they lost the election. here is some evidence. >> eric: the only thing they won as new york and california and illinois. >> juan: the popular vote still -- >> greg: let's not replay the election. he didn't really talk about actual issues that the democratic party -- i don't think he mentioned climate change at all. >> dana: i wasn't going to defend this response. i think both parties should end the practice of the response because you never, ever, ever going to be able to compete with whoever the president is. let whoever it is have their moment and if they call you to do the response, dana's rule is
say no. always decline expert but they are trying to respond to something. they didn't do identity politics, climate change, social issues. they were talking about economic issues and an appellation, you do have people who have come to at least respect the obamacare or the version of it they had in kentucky. they are worried about it being taken away. i can understand what they were thinking. i don't think it was effective but i get what they were trying to do. even though they were planted pots behind them, they were real people. >> greg: i felt they were so -- they had to stand there. like the mannequin channel cha. >> kimberly: working men and women, working class people forgotten by america, by the democratic party, so i get it. they are trying to reach out. seems that they are trying to learn something.
you can't leave a large portion of the country behind and expect to hold on to the oval, hold on to congress. this is what happened. >> greg: my favorite part, liz warren. >> the help of prime minister justin trudeau, we have formed a counsel with our neighbors in canada to make sure women entrepreneurs have access to the networks, markets, and capital they need to start a business and live out their financial dreams. >> greg: i'm not a a great liberator but i think she just said "what did he say"? >> eric: if you're going to do this, go to the reddest of red states. they have two republican
senators. trying to it there, i'm not -- >> juan: the governor was elected, the popular governor in kentucky. >> greg: why not -- >> kimberly: if they took dana's rule, just say no. >> juan: you don't see too many who are successful but the point from the democrats perspective is the lack of specifics in president trump's speech. ronald reagan, when he was doing it, talking about a 10% tax cut and explaining what it means. obama was talking clearly about energy, health care. >> dana: that's being pretty picky. >> juan: put this guy has no specifics? >> dana: they're working him the specifics. if he had given too many specifics, people would've been complaining. >> eric: it is 40 days, juan. if next year, he goes to the same venue it doesn't have specifics, then you've got an argument. >> juan: i think it's republicans who have the
argument. they want to know, how do we get on board? >> greg: let's get on board this tweet. i mean this feed. up ahead, president trump talks tough on immigration last night but he's also signaling and softening his position on illegals already here. that's next on "the five" ." wha-- woof! eeh-- woof! wuh-- [silence] [engine roars to life] [dog howls] ♪ dramatic opera music swells from radio ♪ [howling continues]
♪ >> eric: last night the president delivered a pointed defense on his crackdown for illegal immigration, getting the dangerous illegals out. >> we are removing gang members, drug dealers and criminals that threaten our communities and pray on our very innocent citizens. any in congress who do not believe we should enforce our laws, i would ask you this one question. what would you say to the american family that loses their
jobs, their income or loved ones because america refused to uphold its laws and defend its borders? our obligation is to serve, protect, and defend the citizens of the united states. >> eric: he reiterated his vow to seal up our southern border. >> .-period-paragraph from pouring into our country and poisoning our youth and we will expand treatment for those who have become so badly addicted. we want all americans to succeed but that can't happen in an environment of lawless chaos. we must restore integrity and the rule of law and our borders. for that reason, we will begin the construction of great, great wall along our southern border. >> eric: all right, kj. i noticed -- >> kimberly: i got excited when he said rule of law. yes.
>> eric: democrats. >> kimberly: they weren't excited. we have an obligation to protect our borders. he is fond of saying you are not a country if you not have your borders. people think having a border is a bad thing, that it's mean-spirited. it's not. we have locks on our doors. we have gated communities. nothing wrong with that. make the rules clear that there's a clear path that people want to come here and be part of the country, fantastic. we are a nation founded on immigrant spirit i love it. but do with the right way and protect our borders in terms of national security and uphold the law so they are not applied arbitrarily. >> eric: why do democrats have a problem with the rule of law? >> juan: the rule of law? this whole thing is so distorted. there are studies show 98% of illegal immigrants have no criminal record that this conversation is all about people who are murderers and illegal immigrants killing people. stop and say why is this going
on. he said drugs are pouring in. we are at the lowest level. i think there was one exception in terms of drugs pouring impaired where the lowest level according to customs and border patrol that we've been in years for cocaine and marijuana crossing the southern border. homegrown, not coming across the southern border. >> eric: stuff is coming in. dana, were you hoping to hear some clarity on the leak where the innuendo out of the white house? >> dana: yeah, and i didn't get a chance to read it. f you last night is when he talked about increasing legal immigration which is something you were talking about but he went a step further. it hasn't gotten much tension and it was about merit-based immigration, which is what sweden tried to implement two years ago. they realize they've been too
generous. this would mean if you're going to have a family member come over, you have to prove you can be self-sufficient. or you have a family member who can cover your expenses so that you are not automatically put on welfare here in america pay that was interesting and it didn't get enough attention. it makes sense and i don't know why got skipped over. he did not mention the idea that was floated at lunch by him which was maybe i will bring up this idea that i think it's time to have a compromise immigration bill that would allow a path to legality. maybe he is inching towards it. i hope it wasn't a head fake. it will help you figure out if you're going to be able to get these other pieces of immigration through congress. >> eric: your thoughts, greg, was that section totally partisan? >> greg: but was totally relatable. deporting criminals, enforcing
law. it is not soaring rhetoric. it is blunt sense. i think that's why it's refreshing. and it's a reward to his enthusiastic base who took him to the dance. if he didn't hit this note, it would be like dishing the bride of the wedding to hook up with her twin brother. >> juan: that means demonizing people unfairly. >> kimberly: weight. >> greg: i didn't even listen to that last part. >> kimberly: with the brother. leave the bride for the man at the wedding. >> juan: his point was that based expected the red meat. >> dana: nobody expects the other thing. >> kimberly: yeah. >> eric: embassies, if you are legal, go in there and get your paths to citizenship. it was a relief to hear him say islamic terrorism.
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♪ >> kimberly: president trump use a lot of strong words last night particular when he explained he plans to keep america safe. some of the toughest talk we've heard yet from a u.s. president on terror. >> president trump: we are taking strong measures to protect our nation from radical islamic terrorism. we have seen the attacks in france, belgium, germany and all over the world. we cannot allow a beachhead of terrorism to form inside america. we cannot allow our nation to become a sanctuary for extremists. my administration has been working on improved vetting procedures and we will shortly take new steps to keep our
nation safe and keep those out who will do us harm. >> kimberly: tough talk on terror. this is definitely red meat for his followers, for people who are very serious about national security. >> eric: didn't you feel good? i was watching with my wife and she was saying "finally. thank god he is talking tough on terror." there he is. that's what we've been saying. give the guy a chance. he wants to be pro-law-enforcement, tough on terror, and create jobs. you saw it and i found it a very, very uniting speech. >> kimberly: i think so too. did you like this part of it, juan? >> juan: no. >> kimberly: glass half full. i was hoping. >> juan: when i read today was that his national security advisor, told him don't do it.
it doesn't help us to defeat radical islamic terrorism. we want to go get the bad guys, we need allies and were going to have to rely and people. we don't want to have to start a war between every muslim in the world and the united states. >> greg: you are conflating radicalism with every muslim. that's bigoted. >> juan: no, it's not. >> greg: you just said you don't want to make them mad. >> juan: i don't think i'm talking about all of them. i'm talking about people, especially the terrorists, who would say that these folks are coming after all muslims. >> eric: now that he said radical islamic terror, we are really mad now. we want to kill them even more. >> kimberly: now we are going to formalize this. sorry come already there. >> juan: you belittled the idea of our allies. >> greg: no, no. a doctor who tells you it's just a lump when you have cancer is not a good doctor.
the first step is enough to diagnose what the problem is even if it's bad news. you have to know what it is. the problem is if isis will go away but the doctrine stays. it's not about the dude. it's about the doctor impaired we have to come up with a long-term solution about dealing with someone thing -- something. people who don't have success seek out things like isis is their way -- they can't get acquisitions so they would rather destroy you. that's the bigger challenge. at least we are identifying what it is. >> juan: that was an insightful comment but that has nothing to do with radical islamic -- i mean, what that has to do with is a lot of young men who don't have jobs and who think these auto autocrats done care.
>> kimberly: it's not like these are the best dudes and only -- if only they had a job, it's not like that. >> greg: i could see the ice is job fair. the line for blowing up people would be long. >> dana: every president, they are speaking to multiple audiences at once. the first audiences the american public. the second is the military. radical islamic terrorism, what does it say to them? something to our allies and to the enemy. the enemy is listening and i think that because radical islamic terrorism is a word. it is like rubbing the cat the wrong way. like i will say, you won't say it. having said it once in front of a joint session of congress, may be the president doesn't need to say it again. what matters is that the pentagon presents a plan to defeat isis.
>> kimberly: they gave me the standdown order. >> greg: can i make another point? religion counters your violent impulses. if you are mad somebody else has something, religion teaches you there's a better life somewhere else and not be jealous. but isis reverses it. says, join us. we killed the people who have things. >> eric: and i will throw one more thing in there. okay. any indication that for eight years of not saying it has made us any safer at all in the world -- >> juan: that's an easy one because our allies. >> eric: they still want to kill us. >> juan: who helped us fight and win in iraq, afghanistan? a lot of these muslim countries.
>> kimberly: no, they are not because they still have a vested interest. they have blood in the game. the radical jihadists want to get them to. last night the president gave an update on his campaign pledge to drain the swamp. it caused one of the biggest reactions from the night from the democrats in the room. the democrat in this room will tell us what he thinks next.
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>> juan: welcome back. most democrats attending last night's speech by president trump sat quietly in their chairs, withholding applause. some did erupt in laughter on a couple occasions. this was one of them. >> president trump: we have begun to drain the swamp of government corruption by proposing a five year ban on lobbying by executive branch officials and a lifetime ban... [applause]
thank you. and a lifetime ban on becoming lobbyists for a foreign government. >> juan: dana, this is a moment when the democrats are like "what is going on?" he promised a ban during the campaign on officials. it only applies to people who are lobbying their own agency. doesn't apply to congress. >> dana: there is always some loophole. i thought it was funny that the visual was the president talking about draining the swamp in washington feared we just came off a populist election where people are sick to death of washington and the democrats can't even clap for that. i was laughing at that. >> eric: i am writing this book and i'm dealing with the various ways, crime, corruption, cronyism going on and how trauma can drain it. one of the chapters that i'm researching is on lobbying.
dana sent me an amazing piece. jack abramov was a lobbyist who went to jail for lobbying. and he said this ban is amazing because no one else is doing it. the only way you get a lobbying ban is getting congress to do it. congress obviously doesn't want to do it on either side of the aisle because a lot of their fundraising and their lifestyle comes from lobbying. >> juan: from what i've read, kimberly, it's less than what obama or george w. bush had in terms of limitations on people who are in government becoming lobbyists. >> kimberly: well, let's see what he does about eight. >> juan: what about the tax cuts? >> greg: i am all for that. i would like to be a lobbyist for lobbying. >> dana: they have one. there is an association of lobbyists. >> greg: to stress the importance of lobbies in your home. it's okay. you're joking. >> juan: "one more thing" up
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♪ >> dana: at his time for "one more thing." kimberly. >> kimberly: i have a great one led dana and i shared. one of our friends, exciting news. the cast of season 24 of "dancing with the stars" was announced today at one of the stars is a familiar face from this show. he is our good friend and professional bull ride writer d
model. he was injured, sidelined from the sport of bull riding. he had a bad fall, and injury pretty was temporarily paralyzed. he was able to walk again and rebuilt himself into a great career modeling and acting and now he's going to try to take it dancing. i was able to speak to him earlier today and see if you can do this and inspire people coming back from injury that you can make it happen. >> dana: i wish him the best. i might watch the season. >> greg: two women are excited about this. >> juan: a sweet moment last night. president trump had as a guest, maureen scalia. when trump called out to mrs. mrs. scalia, the justices
applauded her. it's the first time i've seen them show a lot of love. her son tweeted he thought the whole thing was "beautiful." >> dana: she is really lovely. someone you would want as your friend and neighbor and mom and grandma and anything else. >> greg: five years ago today, andrew breitbart passed away. he is a reminder of how far ahead of his time he was. >> what i love about the global warming crowd is it's the group of people out there that can't acknowledge that islamic extremism is a real big threat of our time and so instead of confronting that huge thing where we could all die and they have no answers for it. >> greg: that was on "redeye." ten years ago. i want people to be remembered when they hear the web site breitbart that it's not just a
web site, it's a hell of a man. he >> kimberly: and a good friend to you. >> eric: last night fox news scored number one overall ratings. we had 10.8 million viewers for the president's speech addressed to the joint session, beating all cable but also beating broadcast networks. nbc, cbs, abc. that's a tribute to all of the people on camera and the directors. scott, our director, director that show. congratulations. >> dana: and chris wallace? charles krauthammer. who else was there? laura ingraham was there. i'm going to save my "one more thing" for tomorrow.
it is about the president revoking the obama-era waters of the united states rule. set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." that's it for us. "special report" is next. >> bret: i am bret baier in washington. stocks surged today hours after president trump's for speech to congress. optimism prevailed on wall street as the dow blasted through the 21,000 mark and all three major indices set closing records. the dow gained 303. s&p 500 was up 32. nasdaq finished ahead 79. businesses are reacting positively from the news from president trump president trump's moneyman that a massive infrastructure package and tax reform coming this year. >> our objective of past tax reform by the august recess and