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>> when it comes to military action, and administration source tells fox news that the president's thinking is not driven just by the gas attack by the escalating nature of the attacks in syria since last week. ever since u.s. officials declared that regime change in syria was not a priority. it appears to be now. the pouring rain may have been a metaphor for the heavy decision facing the president, whether to order the first military attack attacks, . >> i think what assad did is terrible, one of the truly egregious crimes and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. >> at mar-a-lago, the president heard options for a potential military strike and national security advisor lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster.
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in his press conference, president trump said his position on syrian president bashar al-assad was changing. today, the president doubled down on that. >> i think what is happening in syria is a disgrace to humanity. something should happen. >> that something is looking like a change in syrian leadership according to secretary of state rex tillerson, though he indicated it wouldn't happen overnight. >> the process by which assad would leave i think requires a national make international effort, in order to first defeat isis in syria, avoid further civil war, then work collectively with our partners around the world through a political process that would lead to assad leaving. >> regime change in particular strikes against syria are more complicated now than when president obama first proposed
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in response to the assad regime's last big chemical attack. russian forces are firmly entrenched in syria, leaving little room for error militarily or politically. to listen, will travel to moscow next week, appeal to vladimir putin not to stand in the way. >> i think it is very important that the russian government consider carefully their continued support for the assad regime. >> the syrian issue took center stage for the reason for the president's trip to florida, a cement with chinese president xi jinping. on the agenda, another global hot spot, north korea. also likely to discuss the expansion in the south china sea and how willing china is to level the playing field of trade. >> we have not been treated fairly on trade for many, many years. no president has taken care of that the way they should have. we have a big problem with north korea, we're going to see what happens.
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>> playing down the likelihood that any military action might occur in the next few hours, saying that would be quick. >> john, thank you. what might military action in syria look like? national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon with the latest. >> good evening, bret. two navy destroyers with tomahawk missiles patrolling the mediterranean, they are on standby, each missile onboard has a range of 1,000 miles. >> the president talked to me on the phone and said that he was going to consult with general mcmaster and general mattis. senator graham and i have strongly recommended grounding's air force. don't let his planes fly that are committing more crimes by dropping nerve gas on innocent
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women and children. >> members of the u.n. security council and meeting to debate. the u.s. delegation is pushing hard for a vote tonight on that resolution. russia is expected to block it as it has seven times before, which would clear the way for the u.s. to act alone or with a small group of allies. plans to attack the syrian regime are more complicated than in august 2013 when president obama elected not to act after bashar al-assad crossed the president's redline. there are no russian military -- there is now a russian military presence. russia has dozens of fighter jets, helicopter gunships, most concerning, advanced surface-to-air missiles to protect the assad regime. there also russian troops embedded and now hundreds of u.s. troops are on the ground in northern syria.
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protection for those troops is a serious issue. sources tell me they do not believe secretary of state rex tillerson meant the u.s. would take steps immediately to remove assad from power. there is a result of reluctance, bret, and bad experience with r. spohn jennifer, thank you. let's get some analysis from retired four-star general jack keane. i want to ask about the confidence. i do think there is confidence that they can pinpoint that this chemical weapons drop. >> they have got witness testimony on the ground, explosions after that, we have got radar that puts the aircraft over the target, we cover that 24/7, and we've got u.s. intelligence reports that confirm both of those. we have high confidence. >> there are people out there
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saying, what is the upside here, and it seems like there's a lot of downside. talk to me about an operation and how it might work. jennifer touched on some of that. >> i think you begin with your overall strategy, tiller's and talking about that already in terms of some kind of regime ch. this military operation going to reduce his capacity to continue to do operations like this, that means airpower, what is that. he's got about six operational airfields that assad uses. his infrastructure to support airpower, not just the obvious airfields, but maintenance and warehouses. >> bret: .tomahawk missiles, air to air. >> it would be standoff cruise missiles delivered from surface and subsurface ships. we would not have to fly a single airplane into syria, we
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would not have to deal with missile defense. take it right off the issue. we would not have to have any air to air confrontation, take that confrontation off the tabl table. it's a pretty clean operation. we could actually take down all six airfields because of our capability, bret, and one night. whether we do that remains to be seen. the one where the policy goes from there, we do have u.s. special operators on the ground in syria, both to the south and north of raqqa. that has to factor in. >> they wouldn't be anywhere near where we are conducting these operations to begin with. i do think we should never lose sight of the fact that we are taking isis down, and that is also going to be a powerful factor in syria. we just had three great visits from arab states here, with
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assissi, who you interviewed, king abdullah. the relationship with the sunni arabs has been revitalized. we have returned to that relationship, they wanted to be a part of this before and president obama would not let them. >> but on russia, how tight is vladimir putin to bashar al-assad, or is he okay if assad goes away after some negotiation? >> he would likely not want to see him go but he would give him up to maintain the infrastructure. a little more invested personally in assad, there could be some tension. at some point, pressure put on putin, he would get up assad. even if he came up assad, we just trade one for another. >> new mexico vermont sq very quickly, back in 2013, this is general jay trump as a civilian,
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if obama attacked syria and innocent civilians are heard and killed, he and the u.s. will look very bad. wanting to save face over this dumb rail line, redline, do not protect syria, fix the usa. in a different position then make then then he was now, but he campaigned on a different foreign policy stance if this is what actually happens. >> i think what has happened to him happens to most people who go into that office. he is burdened, like all of us, from a human perspective, seeing the attack on these kids and people's lifestyles, but what is different for him, he has accountability and responsibility, and that is sobering, and i think that is what is driving him to take action on behalf of the american people's interest, the stability of the region, and the fact that we have -- if you don't take action, your underwriting the
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use of chemical weapons, and is that a physician the united states wants to be in? >> bret: we will see. general keane, thank you. we will follow it here on fox. another major story here on capitol hill. we are witnessing history in the making. change the way we supreme court nominees are confirmed, going back to business as usual before democrats started requiring that 60-vote threshold. republicans insist the effort to block the confirmation of neil gorsuch is all about payback. democrats say gorsuch is a nominee for a stolen seat. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel on the hill tonight. tell us where we are right now. >> several attempts to beat a filibuster by democrats, but they could not get 60 votes. republicans changed the
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threshold to move forward with the supreme court's nomination. >> on this boat, the ayes are 48 >> today, majority leader mitch mcconnell said he had no choice facing what he called a historic partisan filibuster. >> unfortunately, it has brought us to this point. we need to restore the norms and traditions of the senate and get past this unprecedented partisn filibuster. >> donnelly of indiana, heitkamp of north dakota, and manchin of west virginia. the senate's democratic leader complained bitterly about the change. >> cumulative resentments from years of partisan trench warfare were too great. instead of the senate forcing us
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to change, senators have decided to change the senate. >> republicans pushed for a straight up or down vote, but democrats respond to the anger in their base after president obama's last supreme court nominee, merrick garland, never received consideration. >> the nuclear option was used by senator o'connell. we are facing the pilot. >> tempers flared early with the judiciary chairman venting his anger. >> you've got to push forward, don't you? even though you know the effort is doomed to fail, and that's why this is a and especially sd state of affairs. >> 200 years of tradition of requiring 60 votes, meaning you have to have a bipartisan approach to these issues in these appointments, i think we
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are on a slippery slope. >> as i look at what just happened on this floor, i must ask the question, where are we headed? >> leading republicans noted that it was made a campaign issue, even telling voters who he would nominate pete speak with the american people on november the eighth selected president trump. president trump nominated judge neil gorsuch. and tomorrow, we will confirm that nominee. >> after it was done, some expressed worry about this eventually leading to changing the filibuster rule on legislation, passing major roles with a simple majority could be the next temptation at some point. >> with the panel, thanks. a third major story tonight, the chairman of the house intelligence committee is stepping aside from the investigation. peter doocy tells us why the change, who is running it now, and for how long. >> there is a new republican in
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charge of the texas probe, mike conaway, who found out chairman devin nunes was going to step down when the phone rang last night. >> called me and asked me to do it, i said yes. >> the announcement that nunes was stepping aside can just minutes before the house ethics committee made an announcement of its own. "the committee is aware of public allegations that devin nunes may have made disclosures of information in violation of standards of conduct." a lawyer has already asked the ethics committee what evidence it has on him, but he has already narrowed down who he thinks complained. the california congressman says, "several left-wing activist groups have filed accusations against me with the office of congressional lx. they are entirely false and politically motivated and are being leveled just as the american people are beginning to learn the truth about the improper unmasking by the identities of u.s. citizens and
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other abuses of power. unions has been under scrutiny ever since he says a source showed him documents proving the obama administration signed up on the unmasking of trump transition officials named in reports. documents his replacement still hasn't seen. >> have you seen the documents? >> not yet. >> so new you have not yet -- >> no. >> on air force one, president trump talked about nunes stepping aside. >> i think he did that for his own reasons. he is a high-quality person. >> paul ryan doesn't think he did anything wrong either. >> he wants to clear himself while this investigation goes on without distractions. >> even the top democrat praised nunes today. >> i'm sure it was a difficult decision for him, but as he mentioned, i think it is in the best interest of the investigation. >> asked what happens next, congressman calmly knows it will be a challenge paid >> what is
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your concern as you take over? >> the scope is big. a lot of things going on to try to get to the bottom of paid >> another big question tonight. is susan rice going to be called to testify and answer to allegations that she unmasks the identity of trump transition officials who appeared in intel reports for political purposes? chairman conaway wouldn't say if an invitation has been extended because he doesn't want to conduct committee business in the press. >> peter doocy on capitol hill. up next, as north korea close to having the capability of a nuclear strategy is the u.s. mainland? we'll look at that. fox 5 in atlanta, after a series of strong storms hit the east again, at least one large tornado and a handful of smaller ones were reported yesterday. trees toppled, power lines down in georgia, heavy rains and
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♪ >> north korea may be even closer to having the ability to attack the continental u.s. than generally believed. that is according to several sources, we have that story from seoul, south korea. >> even on a busy thursday in seoul, south koreans are still aware of the menace. >> the korea, it is very dangerous. >> kim jong-un have been branded a imminent threat. no wonder the summit between president trump and chinese president xi. >> rhetoric and growing capability. >> this week's missile test, a sign of growing prowess. an expert confirms to fox news they could produce a ballistic
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missile with a nuclear warhead capable of hitting mainland u.s. by the end of president trump's first term. >> north korea is dangerous. certainly to south korea and the region as a whole, and even to the united states. >> dealt with a north korean crisis as south korean foreign minister and ambassador to the u.s. his hopes for the u.s.-china summit? >> need to agree on the seriousness of the problem, but i don't think they will be able to come up with any magical solution. >> he does think future talks could push north korea in the right direction, if only because the alternative, that military option which the trump administration says remains on the table, is so unthinkable. >> it presents so much risk, and
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also it will invite a lot of sacrifice. >> 25 million in south korea within artillery range of the north, including americans, others are also hoping for the best. >> it would be good. >> solving the problem would be good. >> interestingly for many here, the wild card in the summit is not the chinese president, not kim jong-un, but president trump. he is indeed the new kid on this potentially dangerous block. >> thank you. russian authorities have arrested eight people in connection with the suicide bombing in the st. petersburg subway system. two arrested their intercut others in moscow. russian security agents also deactivated an explosive device in an apartment with some of the suspects lived. no one has claimed responsibility for the attack that killed 13 people, but islamic extremists are suspected there.
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here in the u.s., house republicans and the trump administration are still working on a new plan to repeal and replace obamacare. correspondent kevin corke at the white house with an update. >> not quite a full resuscitation, but little doubt that the president's plan to repeal and replace obamacare is getting an approved bill of health this evening. this is the house bill considers major changes to the legislation ahead of the trickle week easter recess. those changes involve a provision for high-risk pools to subsidize insurance for people who are seriously ill. >> paul ryan says the race to replace isn't over but the path forward is a lot clearer now than it was before. >> we have come together on a new amendment that we all believe will lower premiums and provide added protections for those facing real challenges gaining access to affordable care. this brings us closer to the final agreement we all want to achieve.
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>> before it sets up a federal insurance pool to cover conditions like cancer, heart failure, the subsidy idea there is to lower premiums for healthier patients, him of democrats say won't be enough to get them to let down their guard. >> whatever they do come up we'll be there to fight for the american people. we will not allow them, without paying the price to the american people, to increase out-of-pocket costs, premiums, and other out-of-pocket costs. >> all of this is the president commit bret, is considering tying legislation infrastructun to health care reform. the bottom line from the white house's perspective, simply put the money back in the hands of the states. $15 billion that would be part of this new deal, that would help with those high-risk pools. for context, i think this is important, they had these high-risk pools before the passage of the affordable care act paid >> kevin corke live on
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the north lawn. a secret service agent on the vice president's detail is on administrative leave after meeting with prostitutes while off duty. according to an agency spokesperson. the agency says it is aware of the alleged incident and is investigating. this adding to several recent incidents with the secret service. the irs seized millions of dollars in cash and property from americans who engaged in perfectly legal activity. that is the conclusion of a treasury department inspector general's report. this is the tax agency deliberately went after people who tried to avoid federal reporting requirements of bank deposits of more than $10,000. the report says agents targeted people they knew were probably not engaged in criminal activity in order to negotiate large seizures quickly. the agency says it's authorizeh so-called crickets.
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s&p 500 finished ahead 4.5%. as we told you earlier, these senate votes tomorrow on the confirmation of neil gorsuch. senate democrats are trying to lay the blame for the so-called nuclear option at the feet of republicans, but chief white house correspondent james rosen tells us the democrats were actually the first one to light the fuse. >> it with senate democrats who first went nuclear back in 2013 when they control the chamber and use that power to overturn nearly 250 years of senate president paid >> the need for change is so very obvious. >> the democrats in limited the use of filibusters, all of them, except those named to the supreme court. at the time, they cited the slowness to confirm president obama's lower court nominees and decreed a new world in need of modified ways of doing business. >> that is what we have done today. we haven't ripped them up. we have modified them in ways
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that can make things work. >> escalation in the nuclear battle, long dreaded, finally arrived. this former supreme court clerk who, in another era, likely would have cruised to confirmation. >> our democratic colleagues appear poised to block this incredible nominee with the first successful partisan filibuster in american history. >> all that was required for the republicans, who control the senate commit to go nuclear, a pair of simple majority votes sandwiched around some parliamentary back and forth with the presiding charge. >> the question is, so the shale position of the chair stand? >> all presidential nominations for the supreme court can advance on a simple majority. the same democrats who come up four years ago, trumpeted the need for modified practices to move beyond gridlock, today could be heard singing a
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different tune. >> i am disheartened that we are here. today's vote is a cautionary tale about how unbridled partisan escalation can ultimately overwhelm our most basic inclination to work together. >> saying he advised his predecessor, harry reid, against going nuclear to no avail. the republicans did heed such counsel once before in 2005 when they contemplated going nuclear but stepped back from the brink. eight years away from pressing the nuclear button themselves, democrats blasted the g.o.p.'s shortsightedness. >> there will be no check on their power. >> and i pray god when the democrats take back control we don't make the kind of naked power grab you are doing paid >> it hurts all of us to think not just about winning every debate but about protecting free and democratic debate. >> at at this point, only one nuclear button remains
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unprocessed. both senate leaders have sought to assure americans this week that there is, within their ranks, no appetite for that mushroom cloud. >> james, thank you. you think politics is tough here, will conservative french candidate today was doused with flour, scene throwing flower at the candidate as he was crossing a crowd of supporters as you see here. later it he says it shows he ie target of a harassment campaign. one of the true icons of show business and comedy has died. comedian don rickles, merchant of venom, his insult humor. rickles spent more than a half-century delighting his audiences by making fun of them. but he said the humor was never mean-spirited. a friend said he was seven from kidney failure and died this morning. don rickles was 90 years old.
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>> i don't want to say at what i'm going to be debating with respect to syria. i think what assad did was terrible. i think what happened in syria was one of the truly egregious crimes and it shouldn't have happened and it shouldn't be allowed to happen. i guess he is running things. >> you hear president trump talking about his decision-making process, he is concerned about syria and we are told he is considering military action against syria after this chemical weapons attack. i can tell you that two u.s. navy destroyers are now within range, the uss porter and the uss ross, they have a ranch about 1,000 miles with these tomahawk cruise missiles at targets possibly being the
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syrian air force and other specific targets about fueling. what about all of this and where we stand? i want to play the secretary of state talking about regime change. rex tillerson. >> there is no doubt in our minds that we have support that they are responsible for this attack. it is very important that the russian never meant to continue and i consider carefully their continued support. assad's role in the future is uncertain, and with the acts that he has taken, seemed there would be no role for him to govern the syrian people. >> let's bring in our panel. steve hayes, mollie hemingway, senior editor at "the federalist," mara liasson, and charles krauthammer. >> i mean, my head is spinning. this is a complete 360-degree
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change from his policy on syria which, even though a lot of trims foreign policy had not been fleshed out, syria, he had been clear year after year. criticized president obama not just for erasing the redline, all of a sudden, we're talking about military action in putting himself in the sandbox that obama did. he doesn't like what assad is doing, but does he want to get rid of him? troops on the ground, something he said he wouldn't do? >> there are u.s. troops on the ground. >> doesn't mean more u.s. troops if he is really talking about regime change. we're not quite sure what the president was talking about, but we know what to was moved by, he said he changed his mind, what is he going to do about it? >> it's quite remarkable, only a few days ago that he said through his spokesman at the u.n. and also his secretary of
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state that we would not be continuing the obama reproach of wanting regime change. the official policy was, now we have, as an emotional response -- >> that was before a chemical weapons attack on civilians. >> i understand. but if you're going to announce a policy and then you revoke at three days later because of the president's emotional reaction to pictures -- remember, assad has been killing people for seven years. the other thing is, in iraq, saddam had had those syrian gas attacks, and trumpet always proudly announced that he was against the war. if this is a reason for us to go to work, why didn't it apply in iraq and years ago when obama was in town.
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i'm not saying this was a mistake. just saying when a superpower changes his policy radically because a president is moved by pictures, you've got to wonder about the stability of foreign policy. >> i think the world, molly, has been moved by pictures, so does that change the equation, and what to think of this development? >> is everyone is moved by the pictures, the humanitarian crisis is not the only one in the world, but it is true that donald trump has been very successful at arguing for a foreign policy -- the presence of chemical weapons does have a national interest role and that there is something good about making sure that people understand you don't use chemical weapons, that there will be punishment for that. there also are some other issues there, whether it is defeating e refugee crisis. i think there are a lot of
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questions that need to be answers. answered. what does a victory look like, how much are we willing to spend. are we going to try to work with russia? until these questions are answered, it does seem like a very radical departure and one that doesn't make sense in that so much of the reason why people like donald trump is that he showed he was going to take on a foreign policy establishment. keen to invade countries willy-nilly. >> there is the other side where he is possibly moving on the redline that president obama never did. >> we should spend a moment to adjust to reflect on the fact that what we are facing now is because of a catastrophic policy failure by barack obama. this is something that the obama administration is responsible for it largely, they turned a blind eye to this for years, and not only that, they sold the american people on the notion
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that they had prosecuted a successful policy. >> saint npr just in january that the obama administration had compelled syria to, "voluntarily give up chemical weapons stockpile." granted, that is susan rice, and we probably shouldn't take it very seriously. the problem, there is no easy answer, no good solution, the moral case is overwhelming, the national security case is there, but there are huge reasons to be cautious. the strongest group by far the jihadis. no question about that. he looked at raqqa, taken. the moderate rebels that we might have supported at the very beginning of this really don't exist in any significant supportable way. it is wise to be cautious about this. >> this is a clear late a
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departure from trump the candidate. here are, rather, three senators who were on the other side of this issue saying there should be some action. >> i believe the president can act without the permission of congress if he chooses to launch strikes. with the team he has around him would make great decisions decisions. >> president trump has to make a decision. he can get north korea's attention. >> we should work with our allies where we can, but we have to work about if we must. bashar al-assad has to go, i don't think the united states can be saved from the threats emanating from syria. >> trump supporters would say, these are neocons, this is not where the country should be, but now it appears that the
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administration is heading down this road. >> i think the most logical thing to do is where you heard from jack keane earlier. a single strike using tomahawk's so we're not going to get pows shot down, sends a message, wipes out, at least for a time, the capacity of assad. to have runways that are working. as a way to send a message that we are trying to enforce the norm against the use of chemical weapons, to announce it or insinuate that it is the beginning of a campaign to bring the regime down, i think, is a mistake. i think the biggest mistake was announcing a week ago that we were no longer interested in changing the regime. why did we have to say anything. i think that simply invited this kind of arrogant aggression on
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the part of assad, and the same way in 1950 secretary of state said the south of korea was outside the zone of protection of the united states, and we got an invitation shortly afterwards. so the less you say, the more you do. >> bret: less is more from the oval office. i want to talk about this meeting, which is huge tomorrow with the chinese president in mar lago >> huge. i think president trump comes into the meeting with less time and less effort to figure out what exactly he wants. she, i'm sure, it was always very scripted and choreographed, knows exactly what he wants. don't forget, accomplished a great victory with teller's and over that repeating chinese talking points, not once, but twice, give the impression that the u.s. was ready to give china a sphere of influence. does donald trump want to correct that? >> president xi is said to be
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bringing goodies, money and jobs in america to make the case that china is really going to work on the trade issue. when it comes to north korea, it does not seem like there's a lot of bulge. >> that is the area where the most budget needs to happen, be interesting to see how compelling donald trump can be. it is a very important issue, when not being paid enough attention to. >> if you listen to the white house, they will say that they believe the president is going to bring up sanctions on south korea that the chinese have undertaken to challenge them on that. it would be a positive development if they did it. >> one side effect of attacking facilities in syria would be to make a credible threat by the u.s. by the chinese that we might have to do the same thing if the north koreans developed a missile that could hit the united states. right now, the idea of any u.s. attack is not credible.
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♪ >> this is the latest escalation in the left's never ending judicial war, and it cannot, and it will not stand. >> when history weighs what happened, the responsibility for changing the rules will fall on the republicans and leader mcconnell's shoulders. >> it has been a long journey back to the normal functioning of the united states senate. >> as i look around at what has
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just happened on the senate floor, i am sick with regret. >> well, we talked about it for a long time, going nuclear, it happened today. the senate changing the precedent for the supreme court nominees. we are back with the panel. your thoughts on this move? pointing out that it was democrats that eliminated the use of filibusters against all the presidential nominees except to the supreme court, and it was actually chuck schumer who lead that page. >> there was literally no option other than to go nuclear. the democrats chose to be this hostile to an eminently qualified totally reasonable nominee, and it wasn't like republicans were not going to be ready. they had to do this. it is somewhat sweet to lose the filibuster, one of the few tools that can help out minority viewpoints. republicans don't filibuster reasonable supreme court nominees, they let them through in a way that i had not been
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working for pro-life or conservative justices on the right. it will pay dividends for conservative justices actually getting confirmed. be clear that it's not ending for legislation. it is ending for supreme court nominees and nominees overall. that has already happened. if you look back at history, republicans will point out that people like clarence thomas, who was very controversial for democrats, past. >> they will say it was a kind of filibuster, not a technical filibuster, but the merrick garland hearing was denied a vote. i think we have been on the slippery slope for a long time. you had harry reid, got rid of the filibuster for the other nominations. the american garland hold, whatever you want to call it, nothing filibuster is gone. but i think is interesting, mitch mcconnell is very clear, not while i'm the leader.
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no interest on my side to get rid of the legislative bill buster. i think it probably only is a matter of time before it goes, and that will not be good for republicans. >> new mexico and make it to the house? >> look how hard it is for republican majority to get rid of a piece of legislation passed by democrats. if democrats have the maturity again, which they will eventually at some point, they will pass all sorts of stuff without filibuster and it will be very hard for republicans. >> so far, that's not happening. >> i find it hard to join in the lamentations for the filibuster. it has been completely abused, not just on judicial appointments but for the last 30 or 40 years. historically for the 200 years before that, it was rarely used in association cannot most important historical situation is with southern segregation who
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used it for generations as a way to deny african-americans there rates. -- their rights. returning it to a time, when you and i were growing up, we never thought that any piece of legislation had a two-thirds majority as it was in the senate. we just assumed it would need a simple majority. except in the case of -- the only objection i have is the way in which it was done. it was done by a simple majority. that is the issue here. not the abolition of the filibuster, the fact that you can change a rope they simple maturity, change and immaturity at any time to change the rule of the centers, means the senate has no rules. going to have to agree at some point that they have to have a simple majority to change the rules in the senate. otherwise it is lawless like
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libya. >> bret: next is the chairman of the house intelligence committee, devin nunes, stepping aside into the investigation between the trump transition campaign and russia. adam schiff released a statement saying, i know this was not an easy decision for the chairman with who i have worked for many years. i respect that decision. here is the house speaker on devin nunes stepping aside. >> i think chairman nunes wants to make sure this is not a distraction to a very important investigation. >> did he mishandle classified information? >> i don't think so. >> bret: why did he have to do this and is it the right move? >> we don't know. there were complaints lodged by liberal groups trying to take them on. fair to say some others are political attacks. i find what paul ryan said very notable.
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paul ryan and devin nunes together are part of the gang of eight. if there was anyone in a position to know, it would be paul ryan. the fact that he is backing devin nunes the way he is with the strength of the statement he made i think tells us something pay paul ryan is a careful guy. i don't think he would make that kind of a defense when he was likely in thethat include this . >> bret: mollie? >> he is stepping away from the russian portion of the investigation, which already seems like it is wrapping up with not a lot there. he still gets to focus on the leaking scandal which is what he has done so much work digging into information about unmasking and disseminating information. he'll have more time and be able to focus on that. there is also the issue that they are trying to go after him for mishandling classified information which i don't think he has done, but it is a trouble spot for certain ranking members on the committee. they are going to play hard on
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that, a lot of people that have to be worried about their own leaking and mishandling. >> bret: that is it for the panel. next up, a final goodbye to an american hero. roadside assistancety mutr helped him to fix his flat so he could get home safely. my dad says our insurance doesn't have that. don't worry - i know what a lug wrench is, dad. is this a lug wrench? maybe? you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. whfight back fastts, with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums
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♪ >> bret: finally, tonight, a final goodbye. former astronaut and u.s. senator john glenn was laid to rest today at rainy arlington national cemetery. the first american to orbit the earth in 1962 died in december at the age of 95. public events were held at the time, today's intern mentor don mike was close to the public but open only to family and invited guests. plagues and federal offices flew at half-staff in glenn's honor today. thank you for inviting us into your home tonight. fair, balanced, and unafraid, as always, as we leave you tonight come a shot of glenn's wife,
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sitting next to their two children, excepting a folded american flag from a marine holding a single red rose. american hero, astronaut, u.s. senator john glenn, laid to rest today. good night. >> martha: breaking tonight, back on the campaign trail, we remember how then mr. trump talked about his opponent and what she would do about syria. >> she wants to start a's war in syria, and conflict with a nuclear armed russia, that could easily lead to world war iii. >> martha: the president, mr. trump, says this. >> i now have responsibility and i will have responsibility and carry it very proudly. it is >> martha: here he is just moments ago. >> i think what happened in syria is a disgrace to humanity. he is there and i guess he