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have to get with the soldiers. >> bret: all the producers on our speci the north korean dictator is holding a celebration. "hannity" is up next. >> welcome to the special edition of "hannity." i am in for sean tonight, i am kimberly guilfoyle. taking a very different approach to foreign policy than the obama administration, tonight for the hour, we will explain how the trump doctrine is starting to take shape and what it means both here at home and abroad. the. the commander in chief foreign policy has dominated the headlines by drawing a line in the sand wisteria over chemical weapons, calling out to russia, taking a tough stance with north korea and dropping the mother of all bombs on isis. let's take a look.
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>> frankly, putin is backing a person that is truly an evil person. the barbaric killing of small and helpless children must be forcefully rejected by any nation that values human life. we have a very big problem in north korea. i really think that china is going to try very hard and has already started. we will see what happens. >> fox news can confirm now that the u.s. has dropped a large bomb in eastern afghanistan. >> we targeted a system of tunnels and caves that isis fighters used to move around freely. >> we have incredible leaders in the military and a credible
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military and we are very proud of them and this was a very successful mission. >> we have changed the geopolitical reality and just a matter of weeks. >> somebody said oh trump is not going to go. i will go 100%. >> this is a new era. this is a trump era. >> kimberly: what do trump's bold and decisive foreign policy actions mean going forward? joining us now, retired four-star general, jack keane. thank you for being with us. quite a busy week especially as it relates to u.s. foreign policy, national security and a number of different geopolitical fronts. what do you think now if you can compare and contrast the juxtaposition for president trump's approach to foreign policy and how it differs from the previous administration? >> we are seeing a dramatic
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change here. president trump and president obama were facing the same security challenges we have not seen since the end of world war ii and the rise of the soviet union. president trump has definitely made a statement that he wants america to exercise global leadership. he is acting decisively and responsibly with a moral underpinning to it. i'm absolutely convinced he has come to the conclusion when america is exercising this global leadership, the world and america is a safer place and when that leadership is weak as it was during the last eight years in my view and when we disengage from the world, we embolden our adversaries and we weaken the relationship with our allies to the point that they start making bad decisions. president trump has spent the first 84 days reassuring our allies around the world in europe, and the far east and
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middle east that we intend to exercise our leadership role around the world. that's great news for our country and our allies out there. >> kimberly: what does it mean to you personally and for the military people that you speak to, that this president is allowing them to act and engage, giving them the support that they need especially in the field? >> yeah, that's the way it normally is. the last eight years it was not that way. we called three secretary defenses, all had challenges with president obama in the execution of their duties. they were fired over it. the issues were the same. micromanaging the military. what president trump has said is listen, when we are involved in conflict operations in iraq, afghanistan, where we are already there and committed, what you do with your forces are your decisions. how you use air power is your decision. how you maneuver forces, those are your decisions. you don't need to get our
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permission and we are not going to second-guess those decisions. the result of that, kimberly, is that we actually make better decisions and the fact is the forces are more effective because they can adapt to an enemy that is changing as the days go by and when you are able to do that and you don't have to ask permission, we are very responsive in getting on top of that enemy. all of those leaders out there truly applaud that decision, to give them the authority and the responsibility to exercise their duties. they left what's happening here. >> kimberly: we saw that just this week with afghanistan. let's get your reflections on the decision to use that bomb in the area that they used it in. it seems to me this was a smart move strategically and a little bit of a wake-up call to pakistan. >> absolutely. what we were doing there, this is isis. the core is on group in afghanistan, there were several
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hundred in a safe haven and caves they are. bona fide safe havens. a major lesson we learned out of 9/11 is we committed the al qaeda to have a safe haven. not too far from where the strike was, for a number of years and by committing them to do that, we got 9/11. that disaster and horrific event. that is a major lesson learned. when we find radical islamists in a sanctuary, we have got to pounce on them. that is what the general in charge over there did. he recognized, they tried to to it infantry forces -- the casualties are just going to rise. what's the biggest thing i can do to take this thing down? air force had an answer for them and he made the right decision here. he broke the back of that safe patient stomach haven that they have in afghanistan. isis is an out of region organization.
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they are after western civilization values and they intend to do everything they can to destroy it. so when we find them in a safe haven, we've got to destroy them. it >> kimberly: absolutely. a lot of this traffic back and forth, this needs to stop especially with the u.s. giving so much aid to pakistan as well. let's talk a bit about north korea. a lot of people, eyes on north korea for this weekend, very unstable place right now. what do you see as the u.s. -- what can president trump do and working in accord with the president of china? >> that we have couple things here. their mission is really to reassure south korea and japan that we have got their back. things have changed. that is why secretary mattis and rex tillerson has been out to the region. that's number one, they carry a message to north koreans and the
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chinese reminding them of the significant military options that the united states has in its toolkit here. this is about as significant as it gets. secondly, the phone call from president xi following up to the florida weekends is incredibly significant. he told president trump -- it was an hour-long conversation, he told him that i am willing to move in the direction of utilizing north korea. that is a stunning statement. three presidents prior to president trump have tried to get the chinese to do the same thing, 20 plus years of it and it has failed miserably. if this turns into action, and it's not just rhetoric, then president trump has made a major political achievement to make the world a safer place. we have to see action behind those words.
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>> kimberly: that's one of the areas that many feel is a greatest threat. that dictatorship in north korea. where do you think president trump should be focusing his attention because he has a lot of irons in the fire, syria, what should we be doing about bashar al-assad? >> that situation in syria is really a tough situation because we squandered all the opportunities over the last number of years to really make a difference and change momentum against the regime. the regime is solidified and consolidated. we have to be honest about it. the russians and iranians have propped up a thought. all the rhetoric we are going to find, it's not happening. assad may be a liability personally because he is reckless and putin would trade him out for another leader, also
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a thug i would assume and we would make much progress. bringing that situation, where the syrian people are going to feel good about it, it's not going to happen, we are going to focus on isis. that's what we need to do. we need to defeat isis in eastern syria. let's get that cleaned up and after that, we may be able to have some influence in the syrian civil war. i don't believe we should get in the middle of it. i think that would be a disaster. but we have squandered and it's tragic because we have 500,000 people dead, 4 million refugees. the killing is still going to go on. >> kimberly: it has become so much worse because the iranians and the russians were able to move into those key airbases and those fields, it really complicates the problem from a mission perspective in terms of what you can do and what targets you can hit and we saw that most recently. general jack keane, i could talk to you all night. thank you so much for being here and for your service.
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coming up next, right here on this special edition of "hannity"... >> obama's own principles talk about meetings at last for 3-4 hours with no one making a decision. that was the reality of the redlines. >> kimberly: dr. sebastian gorka explains the difference between the current commander-in-chief and barack obama. richard grenell is here with reaction and later, the massive mother of all bombs nonnuclear strike on isis tunnels that killed 36 jihadists inafghanist. tony tata and michael waltz join tony tata and michael waltz join us, that and
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>> kimberly: welcome back to the special edition of "hannity": the trump doctrine. listen to how special counsel to the president, dr. sebastian gorka describes that. >> if you read the memoirs of secretary gates, secretary panetta, it is stunning. they talk about meetings that last for 3-4 hours with nobody
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taking a decision. that was the last eight years. that was the reality of the redlines. along comes president trump, that's gone. we have a threat, we promise to deal with it and we are dealing with right now. >> kimberly: we are seeing what dr. gorka is talking about play out with north korea. here is president trump taking a tough stance on the rogue regime over nuclear weapons. >> north korea is a problem. the problem will be taken care of. i will say this, i think china has really been working very hard. >> kimberly: here with reaction is richard grenell. thank you for being with us tonight, rick. what might happen next -- do you believe that the president is correct to rely on china so heavily with korea? >> we haven't been successful in breaking through with china to get them to understand that this
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is an important issue for us. it makes sense because china is not threatened by north korea. it's not a priority for the chinese government. but this meeting between trump and president xi in florida was timed perfectly. something that was happening with diplomacy that i've never seen a set donald trump made perfectly clear to president xi that we are willing to use all the tools to accomplish our foreign policy goals. what he said to the president of china was this -- you're going to get a better trade deal from us if you help us out on north korea. kimberly, i have been in the security council sitting across from the russians and chinese for almost a decade. we u.s. diplomats usually are forced to make moral arguments. we say to the russians and say to the chinese, you must do the
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right thing because it's with the international community says you should do. or it's in your best interest. we are not very good at linking commerce or agriculture or treasury and banking issues. donald trump has made it perfectly clear that in order for the chinese to get a very good trade deal, which they care about, they are going up to do something on north korea. that was a brilliant move and i happen to be new that diplomats seldom if ever do. >> kimberly: you just wonder about that because it makes sense, strategic diplomacy, bargaining to see if you want this, we have some mutual interests but this is one thing i you can do to support us. it seems like wow it, why wasn't that done before and why didn't the barack obama administration do anything to further stabilize the area of the region and with north korea? >> right, as you say -- it seems
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common sense. it's common sense for a businessman and people outside of washington. it's not common sense for politicians. remember, donald trump is very proud of being flexible and being somebody who is flexible in negotiations. that's what americans want to see. for politicians, that's a bad word. most people in washington rock and a reticule somebody who is flexible. in business, you go in with the position stated very clear with what your goal is but when someone across the table doesn't have the same goal, yet the bargain. you have to be flexible. that is 101 of business but it is not something that politicians value and i think that that's why washington's having such a hard time with donald trump style. >> kimberly: one i am wondering at this hour is coming
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trust china and their government and really count on them to get this done? >> we can trust that china wants a really good trade deal. they care about the economy. they are having a tough time when they look at a long-term economic plan for china. there are a lot of poor people in china, there's a lot of very concerning economic situations on the horizon for china. there are unicef people in china feeding their people. china cares about economic issues and therefore when we tie those economic issues to the fact that they've got to help us on north korea, then i think we are getting their attention. don't forget, kimberly, after their meeting in florida, president ex i went back to china and moved 175,000 troops to the chinese border with north korea.
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that is a signal that he understands what's going on. he saw syria and he also understands that he has to put pressure on the north koreans because donald trump has an incredible threat of military action. >> kimberly: and president trump has now made it the equivalent -- very well explained. thank you very much. coming up, the u.s. military has released video of the mother of all bombs. a nonnuclear strike on isis tunnels in afghanistan that killed 36 terrorists, tony tata and michael waltz join us next. and later... speak of the border is not open. please don't come. you will be apprehended. if you do, you will be deported promptly. if you are a criminal, you will be prosecuted. >> kimberly: jeff sessions tells illegal immigrants at the southern border is now closed. richard fowler and paul babu
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now, back to you "hannity" on this very busy news night. >> kimberly: welcome back to this special edition of's "hannity": the trump doctrine. the mother of all bombs being dropped on isis tunnels in afghanistan. the u.s. military released video of the massive nonnuclear blast and details of the mission. 36 isis fighters were killed in the fight. a major show of force in the fight against isis. watch this. >> really another success. we are very, very proud of our military. i authorize my military. we have the greatest military in the world. they have done their job as usual. we have given them total authorization. frankly that's why they've been so successful lately. if you look at what's happened,
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and compare to what's happened over the last eight years -- you will see there is a tremendous effort. >> kimberly: joining us now, tony tata and michael waltz. thank you for being with us tonight to discuss this. i want to discuss what happened in afghanistan, the fight against isis. give me your best shot and what kind of impact do you think this bomb will have on isis in afghanistan. >> well, great to be with you, kimberly. i really think that trump doctrine is peace through strength, very reaganesque. when i think back to jimmy carter and reagan coming in. and the hostages being held by iran, it's pretty much the same thing. i think all around the world, people are beginning to recognize that we are a powerful country, we are not passive anymore. we are not going to be bowing down to our enemies and apologizing.
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we are going to assert our strength. the general in afghanistan made a tactical decision to drop this mother of all bombs on this rat line that goes into pakistan. but it has strategic implications. sure, we have the military destroying isis and pakistan and on the afghan born or and we are also using information -- that'a big reason this video is being released, it's an information to show the world what we can do, much like we did with the tomahawk in syria. a lot of national power at play. all coming together to have peace th strength. we have to fight our way out of this hole that the obama administration dug us into.
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>> kimberly: is like catching up. huge deficit that have timed and needing to come back with a big win. michael, what else do we need to do it in afghanistan, to fight against isis and even al qaeda for that matter? >> i just wanted to add to tony tata's comment there. it's been a lot of discussion on what message the cruise missiles, the dropping of the moab, they didn't have to do mother may i back to washington and that sends a critical message to the u.s. military. your commander in chief trust you, he recognizes that you are the best trained and equipped military in the world and he's not going to have him or his staff second-guessing you from washington. there was story after story from obama's secretary of defenses,
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calling staffers in the field and second-guessing their strategy and tactical moves. there is this kind of obsession with civilian casualties. i can tell you as a green beret, we all understand the implications of that on the ground. i don't need washington calling and asking me about that. then you have pilots, as isis is charging across iraq -- we finally engage our air force, you have pilots coming back with their wings still on the bombs, bombs still on the wings, not allowed to drop because we had this obsession with zero civilian casualties. the irony there as we all know is isis went on and massacred tens of thousands of civilians. i think the overall message geopolitically is important but the message to the u.s. military, we are going to let you do your job, the commander-in-chief is not going to be worried about strategy --
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what success looks like, some of that is still developing granted but the military is going to be allowed to do what it does best. and that we understand that diplomacy has to work hand-in-hand with military force in order for either one to work. >> kimberly: general jack keane was on earlier and said the same thing. this of the big game changer for the u.s. military to say that look, we are behind you and have a commander-in-chief that's going to let you do the job, but you do the missions and make sure you have the military might to back it up. >> that's right. it's called commander's intent in the military. when the commander's intent is broad guidance, you want your subordinate commanders to execute and you train them and they go forward and execute your intent. the commander-in-chief's intent is that we kill the enemies of this nation. they are a threat everywhere.
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you look at iran, syria, russia, north korea. you look at isis. everywhere we turn we are being crowded by our enemies to whom we have apologized or given billions of dollars. trying to fight our way out, isis is they are. suddenly what we have to do is fire our way out of this thing and reestablish our preeminence so we can protect our liberties, protect our provider interests and plan property, now looking at ends, ways, and means. calling islamic extremism i threat and actually attacking that threat to try to eliminate it so we can live freely for an enduring time. >> kimberly: have a wonderful easter and passover weekend. coming up next on the special
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edition of "hannity"... >> the border is not open. please do not come. you will be apprehended if you do, and you will be deported promptly. if you are a criminal, you will be prosecuted. >> kimberly: jeff sessions says the southern border is now closed. as president trump moves forward with his plans to build a wall. richard fowler and paul babeu are here with reaction. and later... >> we will end the political correctness, and force a free and respectful dialogue. >> kimberly: that was then candidate donald trump blasting political correctness. charlie kirk and jessica tarlov charlie kirk and jessica tarlov will be here
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world the border is not open. please don't come. you'll be apprehended, if you do come, you will deported promptly. if you are a criminal, you will be prosecuted. if you assault our officers, we are going to come at you with a ton of bricks. this is the kind of message we need to send. it's already being sent, it's having a dramatic impact so far. >> kimberly: joining me now is richard fowler and paul babeu. thank you for being here, gentlemen. has the administration done a good job in terms of signaling it's a new era and illegal immigration will not be tolerated? >> absolutely. wow. what a strong, powerful message from attorney general sessions. not just the words but followed up with actions. he is actually directing all u.s. attorneys to target and
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prosecute criminal illegals, those who are repeat offenders, those who continued to come into this country illegally and hiring additional 125 immigration judges with this whole backlog, so it can be solved and deport these criminals who really pose a risk to our entire community. this is all after president trump has actually taken executive actions and actually ordering the enforcement of the law. you have seen these executive orders roll out and it ends, catch and release, and also targeting the criminal illegals throughout the country that law enforcement are going to work together to target them, apprehend them and deport them for good. and at the signature to build the great wall. the president himself has been
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reviewing these plans this is going to be done. this is is no longer just promises, we are seeing action, 70% reduction in crossing the border illegally. >> kimberly: richard, you have a lot to work with right there. >> what we know for a fact is over the past 20 years, we have seen a decrease in border crossing. beyond that point, we know this -- and president trump's budget, he has allocated $51 billion to go to building unpractical and unrealistic and i would argue un-american walls. this money is being taken away from american students, in detroit and chicago because the department of education is taking a 14% cut. we have to really have a conversation -- how do we balance protecting our border and making sure that we are
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enriching our future. if we really want to make america great again, the lesson should be let's invest in america's kids. that's our greatest resource. this trump era and trump justice department, i don't ascribe to it because i find a lot of our policies are taking our country backwards. if we are a nation of immigrants, we have 11 million of them living here in the shadows. we need to make sure we deal with those undocumented immigrants and provide them a pathway to citizenship. >> kimberly: i worked as a prosecutor in san francisco and los angeles, i thought repeated abuses of the laws that were not followed. dangerous things that happened in sanctuary cities and what's wrong with actually enforcing the laws that are on the books currently? >> i have no problem enforcing laws that are currently on the books. i have no problem in deporting people who are ax murderers, child abusers and rapists.
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what we see under donald trump's america is deporting people who haven't paid their traffic tickets. >> kimberly: no. >> that's actually true. a haitian national was deported from miami because he did not pay his traffic ticket. point blank. >> kimberly: you two seconds, paul. >> he gave this whole speech about america, the united states has a proud history of accepting legal immigrants. we accept a 1 million year legally. how about putting americans and our citizens first? >> kimberly: absolutely. we're going to have to leave it right there. coming up next, right here on the special eat edition of "hannity." >> we will end the political correctness and force a free and respectful dialogue. >> kimberly: thought was donald trump criticizing political correctness. he has been doing the same thing as president. as president. to weigh in next, charlie kirk
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>> in the past few decades, political correctness, oh, what a terrible term, has transformed our institutions of higher education from once it fostered
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spirited debates took place of extreme censorship where students are silenced for the smallest of things. you say a word somewhat differently and all of a sudden, you are criticized sometimes viciously. we will end the political correctness and force a free and respectful dialogue. >> kimberly: that with a flashback to then candidate donald trump promising to fight back against political correctness at america's universities. we have seen protests over a commencement speech from vice president mike pence because it's making some students feel unsafe. also claremont mckenna college, a speech by heather mcdonald was disrupted by black lives matter protesters who physically block the entrances to her advents. and now at duquesne university, trying to block a chick-fil-a over student safety. how can president trump work to change this culture at america's
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universities? joining us now from turning point to usa, charlie kirk and jessica tarlov. you look at the news cycle and you see these stories happening over and over again. what causes this liberal groupthink mentality in higher education that seems quite pervasive? >> i think of a lot of it has to do with the professors themselves. we know the majority of professors are liberal and i don't think there has to be anything wrong with that. what we need to get back to understanding is what the first amendment is all about. some of these protests at these speeches is fine, blocking the doors or violence is never fine. when it distracts from actual issues of hate speech or racism -- at the university of missouri, there were actual incidents going on.
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yet the professor who said we need some muscle in here. a complicated the issue. there is a middle ground and its part and we listen to the other side here but i think it has to start with the professors and also the national dialogue. >> kimberly: charlie, you're supposed to get a great education in college. have an open mind, listen to other viewpoints, but it's really what we're saying is this movement of stamping down diversity of thought and opinion to a groupthink that isn't healthy for americans and youth. >> jusco brings a great point. this does a disservice when they want to point out real hate speech on campus. trying to bring a chick-fil-a to campuses all of a sudden dangerous and unsafe? are they worried that delicious chicken sandwiches are going to make students unsafe? essentially they are saying is we disagree with the owners of
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chick-fil-a. therefore it should not be opened on campus. you bring up a great point about diversity. one of the students at notre dame that was protesting the potential visit for vice president pounds, he had a sign that said diversity is our strength. it should be intellectual diversity, that's our strength. racial diversity is great but we need to get back to being able to entertain ideas that you don't agree with and our colleges are not fostering those discussions and unfortunately notre dame is one of the greatest schools in the country and tap students given an audience -- i don't think that's what college is supposed to be about. i think jessica agrees with tha that. i don't believe it's good for the country, it's good for the dialogue to continue to silence people you disagree with on these campuses, there's no my diversity of thought and i think it's a dangerous precedent to be set. >> kimberly: i encourage people to go and speak at universities, i've spoken at
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cornell. they were nicer than jesse watters -- i come from san francisco, very open-minded place. uc davis, i am familiar with the uc system. it wasn't like that then. this has gotten so out of hand, it worries me that we are sending our youth and they are coming out of college ill prepared to deal with the reality of life. nobody's going to give you -- >> you can't pick your coworker coworkers. they're going to be people that think things that are different from you. jason riley was disinvited. i think that was at brown. the most useful thing you can do, i believe strongly, i come on here and i talked to conservatives all the time because i think the best used of my time to put out my viewpoints and what i think is arguably constructive. you present your rationality of
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your case so people can hear what you have to assay. go to the speeches, submit a question. write a letter to the editor and paper. but don't get a violent and don't distract from this because i think the liberals and maybe this is not the far far left, we have important things to say about the dangers of the trump administration and many of these policies, what mike pence believes. you can pick them apart on policy but it's really important to show up and be constructive about it. move forward. >> kimberly: great advice. charlie, what is your advice for kids out there, conservative students that want to go to university? >> i am a big fan of students trying to go to this cool but are more conservative but don't be afraid to go to the very liberal schools and stand up to what you believe in. be the champions of free speech. as jessica noted, that's not something that's always being fought for on our college campuses today. it's being eroded quickly. you have to be able to just
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fight for what you want to say but also fight for things you might not want to hear. that's what free speech is all about. was going on on the campuses right now is that the administrators and faculty are encouraging some very far left wing activist voices to silence a conservative. i pose the question to liberals on campus, if you're so confident on what you believe in, shouldn't you want more conservatives on campus so you can prove them wrong? why do trip that i try to shut? don't try to riot or do dangerous protests or even in the sense of duquesne university, don't shut down a private business. >> kimberly: call out what is more towards hate speech. in the alt right, i think it's important to distinguish what is just conservativism, a relatively safe ideology in
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terms of the more mainstream republicans -- to separate that from the richard spencer's of the world. >> chick-fil-a is not hate speech, though. chick-fil-a must be gone because it's hate speech. mike mike pence because it's hae speech. >> kimberly: they are lost. if you can get them to show up and give a speech, come on. you are pretty lucky. open your ears and bind and listen. we have made a great start tonight. thank you so much. more of the special edition of "hannity": the trump doctrine. stay with us. you could fill a book with all the things you'll never learn from a book. expedia. everything in one place, so you can travel the world better.
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