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>> i do but i can. >> we did a lot of listening today as we promised. where back on tv monday at noon eastern, thank you so much for joining us, "happening now" starts now. >> jenna: we begin with a fox news alert, president trump that you sign new executive orders a short time from now and we are getting previews of what to expect. >> jon: reducing tax burdens and rolling back regulatory requirements known as dodd-frank, also to change with the stroke of a pen. recovering all of the news "happening now" ." gunfire on the shop facilities -- as peers deals with another terrorist attack. >> chaos and panic with all of the people here on the street, a few falling down. >> jon: what the police knew about the gunman before he opened fire. plus as north korea prepares for another military parade, one former defense secretary says pyongyang is more worried than it has been in years about u.s.
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military action. william. joins us live. and what keeps you up at night? a new report on why so many americans are tossing or turning in stead of catching their disease. z pearl s. it's out "happening now." >> jenna: we begin with a fox news alert as we see him use the power of the pad to further his agenda of the day, welcome to the second hour of "happening now," i am jenna lee. >> jon: i'm jon scott. president trump visiting the treasury department to sign a new executive order and some memoranda, they will focus on financial regulations while the future of healthcare also hangs in the balance. the president pushing congress to get something done as he closes in on 100 days in office. white house correspondent kevin corke joins us with more. >> you are right, we're calling it the deluge of deregulation, a lot of people wondering what president trump has been up to these first 100 days in office. a lot of deregulation using to
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eliminate regulations that the power of the pen as you heard jenna point out, the president heading over to have more executive orders come in this case directing treasury to take more look at the tax rules and oversight of the two big to fail financial institutions. mr. trump intending to rollback a lot of the sweeping regulations adopted in the aftermath of the 2008 financial crisis. by the way, were also keeping an eye on changes to healthcare with the white house believing it has to happen before it can really tackle meaningful tax reform. the president wanting to keep parts of obamacare, he wants to repeal and replace but lacks some things like keeping your kids on your insurance until they are 26 and limited waivers to states for example but you should also keep this in mind, congress is also wrestling with a spending bill to keep the government functioning, funding runs out on the 29th. the president insisting the measure include $1.4 billion to enhance the wall along the u.s.-mexico border. we are a huge fight
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with democrats over that and obviously, that could risk shutting down the government. one other note to pass along, an egyptian american charity worker returning to the washington area after spending three years in an egyptian jail over what human rights groups are calling bogus charges. aya hijazi taking the opportunity to shake hands and meet with the president as you see right there. i should point this out. i thought this was really interesting. her lawyer said it was the president who was hugely instrumental in securing her release. that import is why she wanted to make sure she came here to say thank you, and indeed i am sure her family is awfully grateful, back to you. >> jon: great news that she is free. kevin corke at the white house, thank you. >> jenna: we appreciate that, fox news alert, new details on the latest deadly terrorist attack in paris, investigators trying to determine if the gunman killed after fatally shooting a police officer had accomplices. a note praising the islamic state was found near his body.
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we also know he was questioned in february but released for lack of evidence that he has a long criminal record, although the french authorities say it does not necessarily point to extremism. here at home, the president tweeting: "another terrorist attack in paris. the people of france will not take much more of this. will have a big effect on presidential election!" of course, that election is scheduled for sunday, french capital now on high alert ahead of the voting. isis quickly claimed responsibility for the deadly shooting which earn -- injured an officer as well as a taurus and this 37-year-old officer you see here was killed. police returned fire, killing the gunman. joining me now for more on this is tom joslin, senior fellow at the department of democracy. let's talk a little bit more about the claim by isis because that is something you look at very closely. not always consistent among different attacks, so what do you make of the claim, how click to 8 quickly it came and where it came from? >> that was very quick, sometimes it can take the next day or week, they put it out
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within hours and they identify the terrorist by his nom de guerre, the separate question is the french press report in government have identified another individual in prison for 15 years or so as the main guy who did this. there are some concerns about whether or not he was actually ever in belgium are not. the reason it comes up is because the nom de guerre used by the isis main propaganda channel indicated the event from belgium and lived in belgium but there's no indication so far that i have see that the guy has ever been to belgium or lived there so it's very confusing whether that claim that they put out is matching the guy who actually did it. >> jenna: why is that important? >> it's important to figure out their actual organization. when the end is violent, it often does not matter from the victims of perspective if it is organized or not, it is a tragedy. the problem overall is that isis still has an organization trying to orchestrate these attacks in europe and elsewhere and if it
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was one of those so-called remote-controlled attacks where someone is on the other line and a or syria directing this guy to get him to do this, that is important to know because you have operatives in the game who have directed things. >> jenna: you see that there is a commonly held myth that he ate a soup response buddy for all attacks, why is that a myth? >> people do not track it closely, people think isis claims everything, that is not true peer there was a bombing in chelsea by a guy who referenced isis in his diary and made reference to the tech that he would attack here at home, isis never claimed that. a couple weeks ago, attack in stockholm, sweden, was not claimed by then even though the individual may have been inspired by isis. recently in germany, that was not claimed by isis. they do claim some attacks, others they do not. we find more often than not, there is some sort of tie, either they are inspired, directed, remote-controlled or have ties to the isis network. >> jenna: look at france and what happened the last few months, the orleans airport,
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there was a terrorist they are trying to attack a police officer, month before that in february, a man attacked police officers and soldiers outside the loop, it is very frequent, every few weeks, there are different theories as to why that is. is it frequent, number one? is this a new reality, why are we seeing what seems to be a new terror attack in europe every few weeks? >> because we are. there've been four attacks since march, two of them claimed by isis, one in london and others you mentioned. the bottom line is european security services are shutting down untold numbers of plots. basically a plot is being disrupted because of surveillance, because of specific intelligence, arrests, that sort of thing. that is not really properly understood here, the threat is much greater than the guys to get through like the guy we saw yesterday. unfortunately, there are dozens of plots sit down in the u.k., france, belgium, elsewhere. >> jenna: thinking of one that was thwarted a few days ago in france and imagining quicksand, someone trying to get out of quicksand and falling behind
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because we keep seeing these attacks come through. how do we get ahead of it, is there a way to get to the point where you are not playing catch up it seems in some circumstances, where these guys get through and do damage? >> my big concern is we are not going to deliver them a sound military defeat that discredits the ideology and message they've been pumping out for years. >> jenna: you think a good, old-fashioned, part of the description -- >> it needs to be clear to the population that they do not represent the future and their vision of the road is not acceptable. it needs to be something communicated. think back to wars of the past, there's always been a clear line of demarcation between the war machine that was being let loose on the world and the end of that. you have heard people say this is a war that will not end on an aircraft carrier, signing a peace treaty, that is probably right, but there still needs to be a sound defeat. my problem right now is look at a map, where are we defeating jihadists wholesale? i would say nowhere, isis is losing territory in iraq, but
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there multiple other problems including syria, and they will continue to thrive as an insurgency even after they lose more ground. the bottom line is the ideology being discredited? globally, no, is there a sound military defeat on its way? right now does not look like it. >> jenna: you basically say we need to go after them and those particular hot spots, deliver a sound defeat and show it does not pay because of being part of these organizations. >> there needs to be a clear message you will not survive you get along with this in the long run. >> jenna: why aren't we doing that? >> it all comes down to basically look for the last decade or so, most has been filed by flying drones and air strikes, there is not a willingness to use a lot of american ground forces. i get it. i don't want to call for american soldiers to go into syria or more into iraq or afghanistan or elsewhere. i understand that, but i don't see how this is going to end unless we start thinking about how to actually achieve something that looks like a victory. i don't believe when you hear
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people say we cannot win this war or have some real victory, i don't believe that. i think every other foe in the past has been vanquished, this one is certainly can be vanquished, they do not have a war machine or as threatening as the soviet union, they can be beaten, i just don't think at this point we are thinking along those lines. >> jenna: great perspective as always, thank you very much. >> jon: the trump initiation and cyst tax reform is coming, but what will it look like and how soon will it happen? why our next guest says tax reform should take precedence over healthcare for lawmakers. plus, president trump getting a boost in his numbers following u.s. military action in the middle east. one political analyst says the president is getting hit by a new wave of media criticism. he joins us to talk about the coverage coming up. r exclusive l technology means a strong, reliable bond. at safelite, we stand behind our work... because the ones you love, sit behind it. (parents whisper jingle) safelite repair, safelite replace.
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trail. he talked about low rights, guess what? we care about low rates. he talked about simplicity, guess what? we care about simplicity. he talked about using the tax code to make america more competitive. guess what? we want to figure how to use the tax code to make america more competitive. whether healthcare gets done or does not get done, we're going to get tax reform done. >> jon: treasury secretary steven mnuchin and president trump's chief economic advisor gary cohen both saying tax reform is coming and soon. one thing that is not clear is how to pay for it. joining us now, bob q sack, editor in chief at "the hill." you have to admit this administration unlike most republicans is not too worried about finding a tax cut, where you get the money that the tax cut presumably would mean. >> that his executive right, republicans used to say tax reform should be revenue neutral, now they say it will stimulate the economy see can do
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deficit spending. however, they do need some offset, and paul ryan has this idea, plan on importing a tax on imports. that, however, the white house is not crazy about. kevin brady, the chairman of the ways and means committee said recently it depends on who you ask, whether the white house supports this or not. republicans are not yet on the same page. this stretch between next weekend memorial day for tax tax reform is crucial. >> jon: steven mnuchin said that they expect to have tax reform done by august. typically, not a lot happens in washington in the summer. do you think they can get it done? >> he said august then recently backtracked and said maybe by the end of the year. i think they need to show progress. healthcare has been difficult for republicans. it is not great, tax reforms, tax cuts unify the republican party, so i think this has to be their number one priority right now. >> jon: you can do tax reform
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before you do healthcare reform? >> it would have been better for republicans to get healthcare done. they could've used some of the savings from healthcare and applied it to tax reform, very complicated how you do that and senate rules for that, but now they are saying, okay, we would rather have it done, but we must get tax reform done one way or the other. >> jon: paul ryan, as you said, is a big advocate of the border adjustment tax, the white house is not so sure. it seems like yet another fissure in the republican party as to how you proceed with these big items. >> the big difference between healthcare and taxes is the white house is going to have their own tax proposal. they really did not have their own health care proposal. not only do they have to have a plan on taxes, they need to have a message. there was no message on healthcare. if it was, it did not work, only 17% of people favored if the bill now dead, trying to change it. i think the message, trump on the campaign trail, slogan "make america great again," they need
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a slogan for tax reform and health care. >> jon: they could have a healthcare bill by the end of next week, that seems ambitious. >> i think it is very ambitious, don't they get happening. there is the government funding side, the possible shutdown, with that they need to strike a deal and are getting closer but they're not able to rush something through, that is what they tried the first time, it doesn't work. >> jon: this president campaign on the idea of fortifying the southern border, building the wall. democrats said if you want to add money, you want money to build the wall in the budget, we're not going to go for that. it is really -- that you are at loggerhead. >> that is the big question about this, whether there is a shut down. remember, democrats in 2006 including barack obama and hillary clinton approved the secure fence act which was not a wall, but a fence but now they say any wall funding in this funding bill, all bets are off, democrats oppose it. >> jon: they would be willing to shut down the government over that? >> that's a good question, how
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far will they go? >> jon: the republicans took so much heat the last time it happened and dropped in terms of public popularity. >> republicans did not have the bully pulpit. they had bill clinton and barack obama so we will see how far this will go. >> jon: president trump can send out a few tweets, pretty hard for chuck schumer in nancy pelosi to overcome that. >> i think it is risky who gets the blame and when you have the bully pulpit, the opposition party, this time the democrats, it is a risky game. they are definitely asking for a lot and this funding bill and no wall funding. >> jon: bob from "thehill"notoncapitol hilltoday, hereinnew york,goodtohaveyouhere " >> jenna: the u.s. military has been buzzed for the third time this week allowed post-china and south korea backed by thousands of u.s. troops, reacting to the latest threatening comments about the north. our next guest says the north korean regime has not been this worried about u.s. military
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>> jenna: fox news alert along the korean peninsula, south korean military on high alert as the north prepares to mark 85 years since the formation of its people's army. in the meantime, china, north korea's main ally, putting its military bombers at the ready in response to the north suggestion of a super miter preemptive strike if the united states were to act. president trump tweeting this morning: "china is very much the economic lifeline to north korea so, while nothing is easy, if they want to solve the north korean problem, they will." william perry is a former secretary of defense under president bill clinton and led diplomatic efforts with north korea as well after his role at his difference department, one of the great reasons to have him on the
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program. thank you so much. is it because of your background and defense and diplomacy and the intersection between those two that we are particularly interested. i'm wondering because so few of us have ever sat across the table and tried to negotiate with the north koreans, tell us a little bit about that experience and what it was like. >> the first thing i would say is that many people say the north koreans are crazy. i do not agree. they are ruthless, they are reckless, but they are not craz crazy. they have shrewdly kept their redeemer alive where other regimes have collapsed around the world for decades now, so it's a formidable adversary, we should not underestimate them. >> jenna: at the same time, you say there might be a moment here where coercive diplomacy may be effective, why do you think we are at that, and what would coercive diplomacy look like? >> diplomacy for the last two administrations has been a dismal failure.
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the reasonable question is why would this be able to succeed now? i think there are two important things that we have changed. first, most importantly, the chinese which have taken very little action on this in the last few decades have now become greatly concerned. the possibility, very real possibility of a war on the korean peninsula would be very adverse to their core interests. in addition to that, the possibility of japan or south korea going nuclear would be very adverse to doing business. i think we have their attention now. i do believe if the administration approaches carefully and quietly, the chinese government might be willing to work together and putting together a coercive diplomatic package which is what i believed to be effective in north korea. >> jenna: what would have to be in that package? >> that package would have to get their attention, so it would have to have some coercive elements to it.
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we do not have the coercive elements, the chinese do. they are the major supplier of food and fuel to north korea. if they were to suddenly cut off that food or fuel, that would be a big deal. we have some incentives we can offer north korea, but the incentives are not enough. together, though, our incentives and that chinese disincentives would be a powerful packaging would get north korea's attention. >> jenna: in the past, and we have mentioned on the program by the or democrat, past negotiations have failed. you were very candid about the negotiations that were happening during the clinton administration, you said you thought you were close at the time to get into a deal but time ran out on that. based on what you have learned from the experience and what you have watched over the last several administrations, what will you have done different or what would you advise this administration not to do to get a different result, which is ultimately a successful deal somehow with north korea? >> the incentives we offered
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then were enough to get their attention because they did not then have a nuclear program. they now have a nuclear program and are very reluctant to give it up, so incentives will not be enough. we can disincentives like sanctions are not enough. take strong disincentives, and china has those to offer. we can also offer incentives, one of the major things they were interested in from the united states is recognition. it costs us nothing, but it would be a big factor to them and big incentive to them to negotiate. >> jenna: very interesting. you say military action, not mentioning because of all of the bluster from all sides. you say millie the mcmurty action is not appropriate yet. when would it be? >> i do believe that a preemptive strike by the united states today, that kind of military action would precipitate a very strong military response from north korea. not against the united states,
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but against south korea, and that response, i'm afraid, could very easily split into a general nuclear war appear general nuclear war is where the united states and south korea would win back in time, but in the meantime, they would be devastation and south korea. we have to understand that the capital city of seoul has more than 20 million people, it's 15 miles from north korea so they could do a tremendous amount of damage to south korea before they lost the war. also, if they were losing, they may vent in a spasm, spasmodic reaction launched nuclear weapons as a last desperate move, sort of a north korean armageddon. we want to avoid that pit that is a low probability, but we wanted avoid that kind of exacerbating. i do not believe, do not believe that north korea will launch a surprise nuclear attack against the united states, against south korea, against japan. that is the wrong thing to worry
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about. the thing to worry about is blundering into a war. >> jenna: you gave us a lot to think about with your expertise in particular. second perry, great to have you on the program, we appreciate it and look forward to having you back, thank you. >> get to talk to you. >> jon: a judge criticized by then presidential candidate donald trump is said to hear a major immigration case, a so-called dreamer who claims he was unlawfully deported. so did agents violate his protected status? and there are a lot of rumors rambling around washington that the justice department is considering charges, criminal charges against julian assange and his organization wikileaks. we ask the attorney general about that earlier, our legal panel also will wait in as well as what jeff sessions has to sa say. the road can change in an instant. but with lightning fast shifts
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>> jenna: fox news alert, major power outage in one of america's biggest cities. effectively shutting down san francisco cable car lines and impacting tens of thousands of homes and businesses right now. this outage occurring about 20 minutes ago. you have one bart station which is one of the train commuter stations closed due to the outage, and apparently it is affecting an area of san francisco that includes the downtown area as well as a large residential area, but not everyone in those areas across the board have lost power. so it's a little bit confusing
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to see who is affected by early estimates put it at about 90,000 people. no information from the major electric companies as to when the power is going to be back in some of these key areas as i mentioned, the downtown area being affected, but we will keep you posted as we get more. >> jon: >> the department of jue does not comment on investigations but i have said publicly and believe strongly we have had far too many leaks. we've had some very damaging leaks. it is our responsibility -- i have part of the responsibility to try to it in a fight and prosecute any who violate our laws, and you could be sure we will do that. it's going to be a top priority, and we will fulfill our responsibility. >> jon: that is attorney general jeff sessions in my interview during the first hour of "happening now" today as he tours the southern border with department of homeland security chief john kelly. sessions they are leaving open
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the door amid reports that the justice department is considering filing criminal charges against wikileaks and possibly its founder julian assange. what other prospects here? fred is a former federal prosecutor, ashley merchant is a criminal defense attorney. can wikileaks be criminally charged, ashley, for violating law, releasing secrets and so forth that they have put out there? >> if the evidence shows all they did was publish information that was brought to them, then the first amendment is going to protect them. they will not be able to be prosecuted. the government has to find that wikileaks and the founder of wikileaks actually participated somehow, they conspired or did something to encourage, assist or perhaps helped hack these systems or gave some information to get people's passports, they have to show up more than publishing because they would be protected by the first amendment if all they did was actually just published documents that were brought to them by someone else who possibly violated the
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law. >> jon: we know the pentagon papers back in the '70s did not win a lot of friends and the government but newspapers published them anyway, could wikileaks be liable here criminally? >> they could. this is a tough call and it's a balancing act. she is right, the first amendment would protect them but there are limits to the first amendment and the question is whether they knew that the information they had was a secret. you are a journalist, if someone called you from atlanta where she is to say i am at the coca-cola company, i've got the recipe for coke, do you want it? if you published it, it is a trade secret, you are on notice, you know that is information that should be kept secret, no different with the government. cia information that was leaked was very damaging, quite frankly, to our country. there is a first amendment, but there are also laws against espionage and releasing information that would do this government and our country harm, that is what happened here. >> jon: i guess the question
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is, was wikileaks or julian assange somehow complicit in procuring this information? you seem to be saying if they are just the conduit for the release of it, then they cannot be prosecuted. >> exactly. there's a big difference between being a news organization and publishing information that is brought to you and actually participating in the procurement of that information. that is where they're going to have a problem with criminal liability if they actually did something to assist their source whether it be encourage their source to get the information versus the information just falling on their desk. it's a big difference. >> jon: how would you go get julian assange? he's hiding out in the ecuadorian embassy in london because he is under threat of criminal charge in sweden, so he's taking refuge in this embassy appeared how would you get him if he is criminally charged? >> where he's hiding up is technically deemed to be ecuadorian soil, country, see hafted determine whether or not we have an extra -- extradition treaty, we have to ask that he
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would be sent back to the united states, i've been involva tradition like that and there is an awful light that goes into it, the state department has to get involved, questions about the department of defense, are these countries that we wish to have someone extradited from? places we have a military base, do we have interests there? there are a thousand different things that go into extradition, and he is a long way from showing up in a u.s. court and be made to answer for any particular charge. >> jon: the prospects here are fascinating, apparently the obama administration decided not to go after wikileaks and julian assange criminally, in the trump administration may be taking another look at that. we had a comment as you heard earlier from the attorney general. we will keep our eye on that. also, there's a twist in the president's crackdown on illegal immigration we want to talk to you about. attorneys for juan montes, a dreamer, say he was unlawfully doubled ported and a judge criticized by then candidate tre
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is going to be hearing the case. first of all, the government says this guy left the country completely of his own will and that he is no longer protected as a so-called dreamer. do you agree? >> i think if he left the country illegally that he is not protected, but i don't know that is the case. what the lawsuit is really about is the information of whether or not the government actually removed him, whether they deported him or whether he left voluntarily. he is saying that he was actually removed by the government. the government is not giving information to his lawyers so they can prove that is actually what happen. so they've had to go and file a lawsuit under the freedom of information act to try to get this information from the government. this is what the case is about right now, whether or not the government actually removed him or whether or not he voluntarily left because if he voluntarily left, he is no longer entitled to dreamer status and protection. but the problem right now is that we are not able to get this information, so they have to
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resort to a lawsuit in order to get the government to open up these freedom of information act files. >> jon: the judge, as it happened, whose hearing the case is the guy that was personally criticized by president trump while he was on the campaign trail, any question in your mind that the judge can be fair here? >> you know what, our founding fathers when they put together our country, they gave lifetime, they were really very, very smart. i spend my life practicing in federal courts from here all the way to hawaii. my perception has been that my experience with federal judges that they really do take their oath seriously, so i think this judge, irrespective of the comments that were made, will do what he thinks is right. i am troubled by the case and that this individual comes up with this -- i'm going to call it a story right now, saying that you deported me, the government says no. he makes this bold statement, now the government has to run
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around and produce discovery trying to prove a negative. we did not deport you come you left on your own, you lied about coming back in and came illegally. this whole thing -- what bothers me is that the whole thing about you don't like the law, don't like the policy behind the law, what's happening to you, i lay lawsuit and we will get it dealt with in federal court where you get a much more receptive audience. >> jon: also has a spotty record, but we have to leave it there. fred and ashleigh merchant, enjoy your weekend. >> jenna: a new poll shows president trump's approval ratings up from where it was following u.s. military action in the middle east peered mr. trump keeping the focus on the world stage as he faces new criticism from the media and his foreign policy approach pewter to me now, howard kurtz, fox news media analyst, that was the topic of your color this week, will he talk us into a war? what do you make of this coverage? >> clearly, the president is taking a much more aggressive stance both militarily and in terms of his foreign policy than
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his predecessor did particularly after a terrorist attack like the one in paris, we saw this during the campaign, orlando and san bernardino. he's make his job to examine what is the trump policy, that is for the media, but when the near times yesterday in a news story said, will he talk himself into a war? i thought that showed an underlying distrust of just what kind of commander in chief donald trump is and will be. >> jenna: does bring up an interesting question, these are important to ask from any administration. what is fair to ask about the foreign policy of a new president and what do you think does, and she just used in that example, skewed toward editoria? >> certainly after the air strikes in syria which even liberal elements of the media cheered the president for that decision, it was not clear, and perhaps it remains unclear how far he is willing to go. to remain involved in a conflict like syria, this is a guy who campaigned on america first platform and against unnecessary
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american entanglements and foreign civil wars and conflicts, but it is true, he had no previous government experience, he has however assembled a very strong national security team. so asking the question, will he talk himself into war, suggests there is this sort of need particularly on the left to believe that he is dangerous, can be unhinged and at the same time, have to ask, he's in a very tough war of words right now with north korea, there is risk involved in that, but president trump is a risk-taker. the questions are fair, will he talk himself into war, that makes him sound a bit like an amateur who might just blunder into a war. >> jenna: it seems like sometimes the media, and i know i am part of it, you want to simplify things and put them in the win or loss category, you're just trying to check it off, and sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. maybe you're saying, give us more time to look at this administration before we start counting wednesday and defeats. what's coming up on "media
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buzz?" >> we will talk about the 100 days obsession because the president tweeting today as you probably know about the media having this ridiculous standard. it is a media construction, artificial benchmark, but at the same time, the white house is playing along. plus, tucker carlson will talk about his move to 8:00 p.m. >> jenna: that will be great. i wonder if some i would review my first 100 days as a mother? [laughs] it would be a little sketchy, i don't know about my efforts every day. >> you probably need a little bit more time under your belt. >> jenna: thank you very much, we will see you sunday. >> jon: didn't you have him walking? come on. >> jenna: speaking mandarin? not yet. >> jon: insomnia and america is on the rise. it's even worse than before the great recession. the problem that is keeping most americans up at night and what you can do to get some z's. ♪
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>> jon: fox news alert, score one for the good guys, the u.s. is confirming the death of isis military it in an april 6th operation. state department official brett reports a u.s. operation involving special operations forces led to his death near a place in eastern syria. he tweeted "we will reach you anywhere." reports suggest he was a close associate and played a key role in a terror attack on a nightclub in istanbul that left 39 dead. more updates as we get them. >> jenna: national security assuming they can keep you up at night, insomnia is a problem for many americans and apparently is
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getting worse. new information on what is called demand causing this problem and one survey says it has to do with money for this is being done by appropriately, finds the number one reason is healthcare in number two is retirement savings that student loans. the author of the sleep solution, while your sleep is broken and how to fix it is our next guest, appropriately so, neurologist and sleep medicine , great to have you on the program. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate it. >> jenna: we were just mentioning the first 100 days as a mother, i want to share this anecdote, dr. winter has been on our show many times, after my first baby, he said congratulations, and i said, please can i ask some sleep questions. hit advice helped my baby sleep through the night, so they are, i am a believer and dr. winter. i want our viewers to know that. not just the reason why we put you on, but i know your advice works. so why can't we sleep, dr. winter? >> first of all, we can sleep.
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i'd don't want people who are watching this feeling like -- we use words a lot. one of the articles you are referencing talks about, the title was "why more than half of americans can't sleep." so there is a big difference between not being able to sleep and not sleeping well or not being satisfied with your sleep. i think when we use language like "not sleeping" it automatically puts us into a very defensive place because were also hearing messages that if you do not get enough sleep, you can get alzheimer's disease or heart disease, so we want to take the fear out of it. while i understand a lot of people may be struggling with their sleep a little bit, rest assured, you are sleeping, but we've got to get it so you are sleeping a little better. >> jenna: i see what you're saying, talking with friends and family then it becomes a problem, you get worried about bedtime. if you are in one of these cycles because we look at this study and others that said politics is one of the reasons people cannot sleep because they start thinking about things, how do you get yourself off a bad
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cycle and into a good one? >> understand that number one, like i said, you are sleeping. number two, everyone sleep goes up and down like the stock market. it's almost more natural to have ups and downs than to be someone who says, i always slept great my entire life. the key is knowing what to do when these cycles happen. number one, i think that if you are frustrated or concerned about things in the media, you might want to limit your media exposure prior to going to bed. i know a lot of people now are bringing computers and laptops and things in bed with them and scrolling through their news sites, and they are not only getting what they considered to be upsetting news before they go to bed, they are getting a lot of light in their faces while doing that so it's not very helpful -- because >> jenna: hold that thought, i know is number one. i have to take a quick commercial. i noticed when you were talking that you're using your hands, and i think that world series ring you have on your finger. i know you're not a baseball player, can you hold it up? >> i'm a third string catcher
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actually. >> jenna: wait a minute, there's a reason you have the ring. it has to do with sleep, some more after the break with dr. winter, we will be right back.
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>> jenna: back to dr. winter, author of "the sleep solution" for tips on how to sleep better. we left with you showing off their world series ring, and we did not introduce you as a baseball player, so i want to bring us together. you advise us on sleep and also baseball teams, that is how you got the ring? >> i do, the cleveland indians were kind enough to send me this because of their success. i've worked with them since the beginning of my third season with them, fantastic organization. i just received it today, so it's nice to say thank you to them on live tv. >> jenna: that's amazing but
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also a reminder that everyone has trouble sleeping. you said that is not executive the tip, but you left off saying, we should not go to bed with the phones in front of our faces, the light in reading about the news. for someone like a baseball player, these guys have to perform, what is your advice to them? >> my advice to them would be my advice to the rest of us which is basically, i tell them all the time, they go through anxiety about how they will perform the next day. don't underestimate the value of resting. so when you get in bed, you're in a cool, dark environment with your eyes closed, thinking about what you want to do this weekend or your celebrity crush, hello, whatever you want to do to relax, that resting does a tremendous amount for your body in addition to sleep. if you really cannot sleep, read this book, you're going to be so good, it will help you fall asleep, it is so unbelievably boring, it will put you to sleep. either way, you win. >> jenna: i was wondering about that, these long sentences that just let you drift off.
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>> it is under nonsense. >> jenna: it is better than that. great advice and a good reminder because i often think, have to go to sleep, i have to go to sleep, but maybe just resting. >> you have to rest, that is what you have to do. sleep will come more, you will feel great. >> jenna: great advice, thank you for coming on the program again, thank you so much. >> jon: do not gaze at a sparkly ring right before bed. flipping a coin to make a decision, we have all done it. but how one coin toss decided an election and "the final 30" nex next. what?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. ltry align probiotic.n your digestive system? for a non-stop, sweet treat goodness, hold on to your tiara kind of day. get 24/7 digestive support, with align. the #1 doctor recommended probiotic brand.
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♪my friends know me so well.s they can tell what i'm thinking, just by looking in my eyes. they can tell when i'm really excited and thrilled. and they know when i'm not so excited and thrilled. but what they didn't know was that i had dry, itchy eyes. but i knew. so i finally decided to show my eyes some love. some eyelove. when is it chronic dry eye? to find out more, chat with your eye doctor and go to it's all about eyelove, my friends. >> jenna: the final 30. coin toss has determined many things but maybe nothing like this. this happened in a small town in illinois. they had to flip a coin to decide on a new mayor. get this. it's the law in illinois that if you tie, you flip a coin. >> jon: so they did what they had to do. sure enough the fate of gravity and the coin led to tammy o
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daniel powell becoming the first female mayor of the town because she called heads. congratulations, madam mayor. >> jenna: simple solutions. >> jon: thanks for joining us. >> jenna: have a great weekend. "america's news hq" starts now. >> sandra: health care heating up on capitol hill, as president trump takes executive action on financial regulations and complex tax rules. hello, everyone. i'm sandra smith. the president heading to the treasury department to order a thorough review of the tax code and banking regulations. breaking news right now on healthcare, let's get to john roberts. what do we know, john? >> reporter: sandra, good afternoon. we're learning there's a lot of significant movement on the plan to repeal and replace obamacare. this is the measure that didn't come to fruition before the easter break, but there's a lot of work that's been done over the past few week. here are the two players who are involved. chairman of what's called the tuesday


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