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years but decided to print it. the boston newsletter published weekly until 1776 rolling off the presses 313 years ago today. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> neil: a little french there. welcome, everybody. stocks surging on the french election that seem to have a centrist in the driver's seat for now. the markets hoping that that centrist, emanuel marcron will put to bed any threat that france will get out of the european union. i say that take this with a grain of salt. that was the same knee jerk mark react we had going to other way with brexit, the separate from britain from the e.u. the same reaction when had when donald trump was looking like
the winner and markets tanked but the time the ballots were counted, he was doing just fine. but here's what is at stake, folks. we have the world celebrating what appears to be france staying in the european union with a run off election scheduled two weeks from now. the markets might be getting ahead of themselves. in france, europe, that's been the theme. charles payne on what he makes of that and whether that is driving this. what do you think, buddy? >> you're right, neil. stocks bolted out. polls suggesting a real easy victory for the centrist candidate, marcron. just a couple weeks from now, yes, polls have been known to be wrong in predicting not only election winners but market reaction. you recall, donald trump first of all wasn't supposed to win. when he won, the market was supposed to crash. to your point, the market did crash. for several hundred points, this is hours before the opening bell
on november 9th. since then, the stock market has rallied and been on a tear ever sense. who can forget brexit. two days following that vote for the u.k. leaving the union. investors, they ran for the hills. since then, up more than 21%. so for now, wall street is comfortable with the size of marcron's lead. the outcome of the next round of voting is not a slam dunk. when you let la pen outperform marcron. neil, france has a high level of youth unemployment. you'll probably get to this later but the market loved the idea of tax cuts, probably 15%. president trump's official plan comes out wednesday. >> neil: that's that 15% they're looking forward to, the corporate rate land he's going to on wednesday outline his plan on individual rates.
we have a lot he's going to throw at investors that they seem to like or have been telegraphing that they would like. do they sell on the fact once it gets out there or do they wait until it's approved, if it's approved? >> for a while, 15%. we stopped talking 15%. we were thinking the best case scenario, 20, 25%. they don't stop the rally. you break out the confetti if you can get to 15%. >> thanks, charles. for the benefit of this segment, charles le pen. free stuff on cable. nigel helped lead the brexit movement. the whole world was saying don't think of leaving this club. if you do, the markets will go into free fall. briefly they did and since rebobritain would go to hell in hand basket hasn't materialized. nigel joins us now.
the sentiment seems to be building that the world collectively wants to see a centrist candidate win this thing and not le pen. everyone stays hunky dorie. what do you make of that? >> that's right. what the markets have done today is backed stability and the status quo. when you think about it, it's irrational. what has the euro zone done for agreement or unemployment or global trade? the european union itself, the single market and the currency have been bad for business and bad for investors. there's this scare story. you said it already. they're scared of brexit, scared of trump and it was irrational. if marine le pen wins, the markets will fall for a few days but no more than that. >> some are saying that populism might be waning and getting close to the election, owing to the fact that britain's experienced if you bumped along
this official break or donald trump's declining popularity or tough go of it in the polls, depending on how you look at the polls, that maybe that's what making it look long in the tooth. what do you think? >> no, i don't agree at all what you saw in 16 was a genuine democratic revolution against the big corporate culture, the lack of democracy, the lack of feeling. the very fact that the socialists who are in power in france today got 6%. the conservative opposition didn't make the final run-off shows you that far from disappearing, it's still there. marine le pen is not the favorite over the course of the next couple weeks. but you know something? we could be here in a couple weeks time after what may well be a very close contest indeed. populism, opposition is big.
the super national projects are still growing. >> neil: your thoughts on the market reaction. they interpret the union being intact is better than the union not. that -- to your point that could change. but what do you make of that collective market read? >> well, i'm afraid that too many of the opinions is markets listen to comes from the big banks that are hand and glove with the politicians and they like life as it is. when the european union breaks out, there may be some short term turmoil but ultimately people want to live in nation states, they want to vote for people that set their taxes, they want to control their borders and ultimately that is where we're going. >> shepard: all right. thank you. always good catching up with you. nigel farage. we have bob nardelli here. he's from chrysler and the former home depot ceo, xlr 8
founder and so more. a big wig at g.e. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> neil: do you think this run-up is justified? i can see it may be on the prospects of tax cuts or regulatory relief, but is it really helping us over here? >> i tend to agree with you. you know, the media today is about france. i would see france, talking to some of my colleagues, it's the lack of disruption as opposed to what nigel said, not the upside, the globality of companies not dealing separately with new trade agreements, ex-set that. >> neil: does that help you in your running the multinationals? it's easier to deal with a union than 20 different countries. >> sometimes. sometimes you're disadvantaged. but it's the lack of disruption and uncertainty. the centrist thing is probably positive relative to what we might see extreme over there.
talking to the fellow ceos, it's the 15% corporate tax -- >> neil: if that's true, if it pans out, 15%, not 20%, from 35%, that is -- >> that is how long. there's been a quiet period where people -- the ceos were getting concerned that maybe that had fallen off because of the health care thing. is that is back on the table, it's big. we have not heard about repatriation of offshore funds. a couple trillion. >> neil: when you talk about repatriation, a low enough tax rate to bring that money back, the president talked about ways to use that. how doable is that? >> it's very doable. if you say, look, we're going to put 25% of the re-patated funds into infrastructure backed by a corporate bond, that's good. 25% goes into job creation. grow the economy. gdp. jobs, better economy.
the other 50, make sure it's not used to buy stock backs. the general population -- >> that's what happened the last go around. >> it did. we have to make sure the population doesn't see that the stock -- >> would you hang that out -- >> for the fats cats. you have to make sure. the other thing on the tax, make sure that we take care of the individual business. i deal a lot with family offices and privately held. they're doing their taxes on a personal income basis. >> neil: so if you were to do only corporate taxes, they would will left out. >> that's a mistake. we know they represent a big part of the overall revenue and job creation in this country. we have to be able to address all three of those i think going forward in a very positive way, neil. >> neil: do you think you have to pay for tax cuts? that will be the raging debate, even among republicans. do you pay for the cuts? do they have to be revenue neutral right off the bat?
art will be joining me soon. he says no. i understand that. but in the near term, can you as a pretty prudent financeer, can you live with them getting worse before better? >> if we weren't $20 trillion in the ditch. >> neil: that's the problem. >> shepard: that's the problem. so we're in the trough here. but i'd still be favorable to a 15% corporate tax, something for the individual small crane and let's readdress repatriation. that could -- >> neil: should the upper income have a tax cut? >> we're talking about 1%. >> neil: that's you. >> that's not me. my french isn't as good as yours. there's been a lot of discussion about trump in the first 100 days. let me take a ceo approach.
if you look at his term, that's .068% of the time in the job. i mean, if we went to the patriot's super bowl game, how would we have voted on them. >> neil: you know when had the worst 100 days? >> who? >> neil: abraham lincoln. >> look at the decisions on tax relief, some of the things for the auto industry, the contractors. i think he has a very fast start. the problem is his team is letting him down. they have to catch up to him. he can't let them hold him back. >> neil: i'm not comparing, donald trump and abraham lincoln. all i'm saying is that we've had some great presidents that had a lousy first 100 days and some
others like ronald reagan that had a lousy first 100 days. george bush sr. comes to mind. keep that in mind. the 100-day thing is a barometer and we've used it since f.d.r. -- >> i would say outperformed. certainly the last administration. >> neil: don't get me started on millard fillmore. thanks very much. good seeing you. we're beginning to get sort of the broad blueprints of a tax cut. the treasury secretary, steve mnuchin sifts his hands today. i'm not sure art lapper would like what he heard. i could be very wrong. stick around. and everything we ship has something in common. whether it's expedited overnight... ...or shipped around the globe, ...it's handled by od employees who know that delivering freight...
>> neil: all right so to hear steve mnuchin put it, look forward to something big. that's what the administration will lay out as a comprehensive tax reform. bigger, the president said, than anything we've seen prior, even bigger than ronald reagan. former reagan economic adviser, art lapper on that. i did catch what he mentioned about the mix class tax cut. not so much that this would be across the board. i can glean way too much. what if it is not across the board? big for the middle class, big for others. the corporate part is real and big. but not quite like ronald reagan in the respect that everyone saw substantial cuts. >> what you have to remember in the first tax cut in 1981, neil, while the unearned income tax rate was 70% to 50%, ronald reagan did not cut the marginal
rate on the highest earners. the first year, you can do all sorts of stuff. if he gets the corporate rate down and gets some average rates down, marginal rates -- they have to be marginal rates, not deductions. if he does, it will have a positive impact. once the economy starts going, do the huge tax reform like we did in 1986. which was best of all. >> neil: with us a big percentage drop that you started with and followed suit closing a lot of loop holes. my wife and i regretted the interest rate on credit cards that you couldn't write it off. we had to get our physical house in order. >> sorry. >> neil: it's okay. you helped us. we didn't realize it at the time. i'm curious about where you see this effort going. there's a battle we're hearing beneath the -- some republicans, do you pay for them. we talked about this in the
past. others have signed on to this view that, you know, don't obsess about this revenue neutrality. explain it. >> i think it's ridiculous in the short run. >> neil: why? >> because the reason you cut tax rates is to create economic growth to increase revenues in the future. that's why you cut them. if you cult welfare payments out, this is not the right thing to do. if you raise other taxes to off settle the tax cuts, you won't get the growth. we need growth growth and then we'll pay for this down the road. that's the way it did when clinton ran surpluses. it's because of regan tax cuts that that occurred. they were a perfect team, clinton and reagan. right now we need the tax cuts to get growth. >> neil: the argument against making them too big right now, we have this debt and we do have
the deficits. >> we do. >> neil: anything that compounds that is going to complicate that. republicans could be looking at another problem. what do you through? >> i don't think the debt issue in the short run is a real, real problem. the debt issue seven years from now is a real problem. if we don't get economic growth right now, we won't get that debt down as a -- >> neil: you can't grow your way out. >> yes, you cans that the only way -- >> neil: grow out of $23 trillion in debt? >> the only way to do it. look at federal tax revenues. the only thing -- not takes rates or any of this nonsense accounting stuff. if you have economic growth, the tax revenues pour in. >> neil: ben stein that you know, one of the things he has said, we can never get our hands on spending, we never grapple with it. always tray to get a handle and
they never can and never do. so he doesn't think particularly when it comes to the upper income that they should -- he said they should pay more. that's echoed by a few others. it's only way the balance this up. don't cut the upper income tax rate. >> what we know from the kennedy and reagan tax cuts, the one group that paid way more in taxes after the tax cut were the highest income earns. that's the one group. >> neil: as a group in general. they stopped using tax shelters and gimmicks and loop holes and they actually paid their taxes. that's what happened under reagan. i'm just looking at the numbers under reagan and kennedy and coolidge. huge increases in the top 1% of income earners. >> neil: had higher rates back then. >> not really. regan cut it to 28%. >> i was talking about the starting line. >> the starting level was higher. it was only in the 70%.
nixon cut the earned income tax rate to 50% where it was a long time. so it was just on unearned income. you're right. it was higher. it will work just as well now as it worked back then. believe me when i tell you that especially on the highest income groups. they're the ones that want to stop using tax shelter. >> neil: you might have a future discussing taxes. you're promising. thanks very much. >> you're special, neil. >> neil: that's one word. meantime, we're getting good news on president george h.w. bush. he's still at a houston hospital. mr. bush will be remaining there a few more days for observation. his medical team is encouraged by his progress. he'll be released be i the end of the week. bp uses flir cameras - a new thermal imagining technology -
>> neil: welcome back. live at the white house where the president is about to meet with the chairman of joint chiefs of staff in the oval office. this coming as our ambassador to the united nations nikki haley has made it as clear as she could that the north koreans better listen up. we will not tolerate any more missiles hailing down. we're not going to do something unless he gives us, referring to kim jong-un, a reason to do something. one reason is attacking a base or another is launching an
ballistic missile. ambassador john bolton, what do you think of that? >> that state what's the president has said a long time. any attack on u.s. forces in south korea would risk a general conflict. with kim jong-un and that regime, it's ir rad -- erratic and hard to predict. he's almost close to delivering a nuclear target in the united states via a ballistic missile. that's the kind of threat that we won't tolerate. that would bring preemptive action. the people are worried the sixth nuclear test may be coming. it's not just the symbolism of it, it's the reality of mistaking believing that we
could talk the north koreans out of their nuclear weapons program, they're very close to hitting us directly. >> neil: we've heard about the progress with the chinese president, xi jinping. he and trump talked today about bringing this nut back to reality. how do we know that? what is our timeline for that? he could be buying time to do just what you fear. >> yeah, the chinese have played a double game with us for 25 years. they say they don't want north korea to have a nuclear weapons program but they have failed consistently to exert the pressure that they could bring to bear. which is why trying to convince the north koreans to give up the program through diplomacy or through coercion has not worked and will not work. the real diplomatic play here is to get china to agree that it's in their best interests to see
the peninsula reunited. the only way we'll solve the north korean nuclear weapons problem is to get rid of the north korean state. >> neil: good luck on that. what i'm wondering, ambassador, if we were to shoot down one of their missiles or worse, go after the launching pads where these things go, how would the chinese respond to that? what do you think the global response would be? >> the fear the chinese have that an uncontrolled collapse of the regime would bring millions of refugees across the border and u.s. and south korean forces into north korea leading to u.s. troops on the river. so if we're forced to come across the river, that would be entirely possible. what i'm saying is the chinese can do this the easy way or the hard way. we don't want to be on the
river. we don't want massive flows of refugees. you can do it in a controlled fashion, which would lead to the re-junification of the peninsula or you can wait until kim jong-un to react. the most prominent historian of the korean war itself that are now saying publicly and have been for some time that taking care of the north korean regime is a mistake from china's point of view -- we're not asking for an active al truism. it's in china's interest to see the two koreas united. >> neil: as you indicated, republicans and democrats have tried -- >> and they failed to stop north korea to 25 years. want to try 26? >> neil: thanks, ambassador. good seeing you. you already know and heard a lot about this latest poll on president trump that shows it's the lowst insurance is what?
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>> neil: all right. you know the bad news for president trump 100 days in, he's looking at the lowest approval numbers since dwight eisenhower. that's fine. as i said, we have a lot of time though to do other things including some of the other nuances in the polls. we're showing you he would win in a rematch with hillary clinton. his voters are still sticking with him to the tune of 94%, the
likes of which we rarely see at this stage. that doesn't necessarily mean that the polls are all good news. it's clearly not. there's good news there. like i said, we have time to get into all of that. but if you switched it around, which i hope you didn't do, because i told you not to do that, trust me, the other guys are not getting into that. let's get to katelyn collins on this. it's fair game to go into the bad stuff. but it's interesting to note some of the other stuff. what did you make of the breakdown of some of these polls? >> you can find something that everybody looks in the polls. what is clear, when it comes to donald trump, there's no buyer's remorse. he didn't enjoy the honeymoon period that people enjoy in january. but it's clear from 2% of people said he wouldn't vote again if the elections were held today, there's no regrets when it comes to donald trump. >> neil: i wonder whether the constant pelting of bad news and focusing on that -- i'm not
saying by any means start doing commercials for him, affects people's views of him. they're seeing things not through the prism of executive orders. they're just seeing a healthcare initiative that was shelved on the last minute. what do you make of that? >> i think you're right. as we've seen, more than 80% of the media's coverage of donald trump has been negative. everything he has done has been negative. there's something wrong there. but you're right. when the media is constantly negative and nightly news casts and the morning news, then people are going to poll that it's a negative presidency and he hasn't done much. when you sample 1,000 voters across the nation that doesn't tell us what we're seeing here. and like donald trump will do, he will always go back to what the polls said right before the election in november. >> neil: no doubt. but he's also a savvy guy and
pounce on the polls that look good for him including one that shows if the election were held, he would win in the popular voted. so he picks and chooses as any president does. did he set this up for the high expectations for the first 100 days if he overdelivered or underpromised. >> the 100 day mark is silly. but trump and his communications team pushed out what they were going to do in the first 100 days. it was going to be the best 100 days of any president ever. so when you say things like that and it comes that 100 days is up and you've not accomplished what you said you were going to do, you have to answer for voters on that. >> shepard: well-put. thanks, katelyn. but i think we have time.
negative, negative, which is fun, but there's a little positive, too. balance. meantime, talk about balance, we first had global warming and then climate change. now it's just science, dammit. if you don't agree with those that say the earth is becoming like a big skillet, the hell with it. not so fast.
>> neil: all right. you see the environmentalists out the last couple days talking about the science. here's the thing about science on global warming. it keeps changing. so back when i was in high school, there was a great global cooling going on. and then it started heating up. then there was a global warming going on. then we were all like eggs in a skillet called earth that was
going away. and then when the global warming thing wasn't panning out when we had a couple cold winters, it was climate change. you can't argue with climate change until people started saying, climate changes anyway, you idiot. so now it's science. if you're repudiating any of this, you're not using science. you're a neanderthal. this guy is anything but. he has serious concerns about this mentality on the part of the certain community to go all one way. i'm talking about joe bastardi. what are you making of this? they're saying science. if you argue with the science, you're a nimrod. >> it's classic isolation demon
izing people. it's getting serious. there were seven shots fired this weekend at the national space science and technology center. the home of dr. roy spencer and dr. john christy both prominent skeptics. i'm sure that will make the news as we do along here. i don't think the bulk of the people are like that. what i do think is a lot of the people have no tolerance for the diversity of opinion or the idea -- >> neil: give me that opinion. you're in that camp that says climate changes and weather changes. you don't by the fact that this is a manmade driven event, the warming of the earth, if you accept warming at all. what? >> well, it would be the first time that man has ever been responsible for it in recorded history. we go back 10 million years. if you're going to actually believe what we have as reference records, there's no linkage to co2 and temperatures
inless it's one of these books that you have to stand on your head add cross your eyes to look at. >> neil: how do you know knnow? because of the factories and -- >> i don't have the problem with the stuff they're spewing in the air that is par tick you late mater. when you tell me it's the climate control knob about the system, i say well, why is it now when it's been higher before when there were colder temperatures? is it's 1%, 10%, 50%? you can't really say that. what you can say though is that if this whole issue went away, guys like me would still have the weather every day. they don't have anything though. >> neil: is the earth warming or
not? >> yeah, i think over the last two years, the earth has reached -- >> neil: what is doing that? the glaciers are melts and -- >> let's put you at ease here. greenland has had a record breaking snow and ice year this year. they'll need a record-breaking melt to get back to normal. it's back and forth all the time. that's the way nature works. the fact of the matter is, weather and climate are nature's way of trying to solve and imbalance that is inherent in the same. that is why you see these variations. we had a major el nino, so it's spiked the temperature. we're backing off some now. but what could cause that? you had 200 years of high sunspot activity. the oceans warm from that. the cyclical nature of the oceans are centuries in the making. how can yes -- >> neil: you beller talk to the science guys.
he seems to understand this. >> i've had conversations with bill before. i had him over to my house sitting and talking about the matter. bill believes he out to save the planet. that's what he believes. i can't save the planet. the most i can do is explain what i believe -- >> neil: he was at your house for three hours? >> yeah, yes, he was. hopefully i will continue to have the right to express my opinion and let people know why something is happening before it does rather than wait till it happens and try to explain it after. >> neil: good for you. be open to all of that. >> that's right. >> neil: when we're doing the global cooling thing with archie bunker on the front of "time" magazine. you're right. >> and that is actually -- they're trying to bury that and say that didn't happen. that bothers me, too. >> neil: i have that magazine. >> a very orwellian how the past is being trashed, no need to look at the past. we know what is going on today.
follow us. that's what bothers me. >> neil: thank you, my friend. joe bastardi, just another point of view. what do i tell you about the time we have? we can get into this. it goes back and forth. stick around. i'll prove it with a classic example after this. the dna day sale is here. get your ancestrydna kit. learn about you. and the people and places that led to you. and see yourself... in a new light. ancestrydna. save 20% through wednesday at ancestrydna.com ykeep you sidelined.ng that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. it's league night!? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico!
speech at a conference and receive $400,000 at the can'ter fitzgerald healthcare conference. pretty interesting. a lot of ways you can unwind this, neil. he was one of wall streets most intense critics particularly after the financial crisis and all throughout his administration. he's speaking at a healthcare conference. guess what is going on? the end of his healthcare reform known as obamacare. this will be interesting. we understand from cantor fitzgerald that a contract has been signed. usually this contract includes fees for travel. i should point out that 400,000 is a steep price for a price. president bill clinton gives a lot of speeches to wall street. he gets paid an average of $200,000. this is a lot of money. it's interesting. a fascinating and controversial story not just because of president obama's attacks against wall street during his time there, but because he's
going to be commenting on healthcare, which is unwinding when he's giving this speech in september. >> neil: what is eye popping about it, this is wall street. when all is said and done on behalf of healthcare, it's wall street who he singled out for their abusiveness and now he's going to get a nice check to be fair, wall street can write the big checks. man, what do you think? >> like i said, there's a lot of ironies here. you know, this story has not been reported. plenty of people weighing in on this, whether this is hypocritical of the president, to be bashing wall street, saying they are a bunch of bad guys. he called them fat cats. he said they had to own up to their sins during their financial crisis. he has a lot of reporters on wall street which he lost over the years. jamie diamond is one of them. gary cohn was a big obama supporter and because of some of his rhetoric turned against him
in the second term, this is fascinating. the hypocrisy angle is clear here. at some point, listen, i'll tell you this, this is what i know from cantor fitzgerald. he's signed the contract and agreed to come. don't doubt that he does a 180 when the -- when the controversy starts. there's growing to be a lot of people calling him a hypocrite for what he said and his actions against wall street. >> neil: he must have known that. great reporting, as always, charlie. reaction from the gop strategist. when you hear something like this, the former president has returned to the public sphere, this time speaking in chicago to university kids, this is a very different thing. this is a $400,000 speech to wall street fat cats. cantor fitzgerald.
what do you make of it? >> it's interesting. a lot of people will find it hypocritical that campaigned against wall street would accept their money. the post presidency and who cares in that regard, i'm sure that's how he thinks about it. >> neil: i was thinking under trump's rules, you can't do this pay for play thing after you leave for office. so if trump's rules went into effect right now, the president wouldn't be able to do this. but it is what it is. you know, you got to earn a dollar, right? what do you think? that's not just a dollar. that and a $60 plus million book deal what do you think? >> he's cashing out. >> he's dwarfing all former presidents even in inflation adjusted terms. so obviously he's popular figure. what do you think? >> he's obviously a popular
figure and a historic man. the first african american president. we're talking about the conference that he had, the youth. he galvanized the youth in 08 and 2012. he was seen as a disrupter. he didn't wait in line and take word from nancy pelosi and those that supported hillary clinton. this is an interesting time for president obama. the magic bullet known as obama lost its effect. we saw what happened with him campaigning her for months and the million plus young people that didn't support her, giving it to donald trump in the beginning. >> neil: what i do notice, you can be middle income going into the presidency or not have any money like bill and hillary clinton and leave and hit pay dirt with speeches and books. before you know it, you're a
multi-hundred millionaire. is barack obama going that route? >> i'm sure he is. bill and hillary ain't broke. >> neil: and you know what i mean. >> yeah, definitely interesting. >> neil: all right. thanks. good having you with us. you get those figures when you're out on the circuit. >> yeah, thank you, neil. >> neil: all right. meantime, we're keeping an eye on that, keeping an eye on wall street and a rally that continues. these wall street houses cantor and everybody else, when you make money hand over fist, you can pay people hand over fist. more coming up. digital notebook to capture investing ideas that instantly gives you stock prices, earnings, and dividends... an equity summary score that consolidates the stock ratings of top analysts into a single score... and $4.95 online u.s. equity trades... you realize the smartest investing idea,
the news to me was it was on a saturday but nevertheless we have committed to this and that's how we roll, america. live at 10:00 a.m. eastern through noon. i'm going to be doing it. see you then. >> bret: the likelihood of a government shutdown may hinge on president trump's border wall. this is "special report" ." good evening prayer welcome to washington. i am bret baier. this is a special 5:00 eastern edition of "special report." tonight all week, we have you covered from 7:00 seven 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. democrats are threatening to shut down the government. the president campaigned on a promise that mexico would pay for the wall. democrats are accusing president trump of hurti pr