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billionaire times over, but does he want or need or recommend a tax cut? you might be surprised. my special guest live saturday coverage on day 100 on the trump presidency. bret is next. >> bret: senators head to the white house for an urgent conversation from the threat from north korea. as the u.s. installs an antimissile system in south korea. this, is "special report." good evening, welcome to washington, i'm bret baier. this is one of our special two-hour "special report." we begin with a rare, all hands on deck meeting of the u.s. senate at the white house for a classified briefing. this happens at the same time this will be online in south
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korea. the world's most dangerous flab bore hoods, rich edson is at the state department, where the attack to syria -- a u.s. navy ship fires a warning flair in the persian gulf. we start off with john roberts, on what senators heard this afternoon about north korea. good evening, john. >> reporter: bret, good evening. the level of threat coming from north korea and how that threat has changed, compared to regimes in the past. an extraordinary scene, as bus loads of senators arrived in the west executive drive here at the white house, and made their way into a briefing room at the eisenhower executive office building for what was a long briefing on north korea, the briefers, the top advisors on diplomacy, national security, rex tillerson, the secretary of
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state, jim mattis. the president invited all 100 senators down to the senior administration telling fox news it was to fully communicate the threat from north korea, let them ask questions about of the president's national security team to better understand the nature of that threat. also, to outline what the administration has been doing to address the looming threat from north korea. they were economic actions along with military preparations that the white house would not go into, at least not publicly. chris coons of delaware was at the briefing. he says the presentation was, quote, sobering. >> it is clear that kim jong-un intends to develop both nuclear weapons and capability to deliver them against the americans. at some point, that will be a very pressing national security concern. >> reporter: white house officials say they're getting better cooperation from china
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than in years past, since the meeting that the president had with president xi xi jinping. according to a senior administration official, a clear effort in the chinese media to communicate north korea's bad behavior and that the existence of the north korean programs cannot be tolerated. two big changes on china's part, according to a senior administration official. an acknowledgment of the level of threat coming from north korea and willingness to take steps that it hasn't in the past to try to rein in north korea. >> bret: another major headline. neil cavuto talked about it. what are the highlights. >> reporter: the president's biggest legislative plan on the campaign trail, his biggest ticket item, one he really wants to get passed. it is a once in a generation chance to reform the tax code. here are some of the highlights. reducing the number of personal
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income tax rates from seven to three, 10, 25% and 35%. the 35% for the higher income earners, higher than the anything that the president proposed before. proposing to slash the rate from 35% down to 15%, double the standard deduction for individual income taxpayers, which would give couples a tax break on their first $24,000 of income. a lot of the plan is still unknown. it is in a very early stages. one of the big unknowns, whether the president will make good on his pledge to eliminate the marriage penalty. i asked that question today and was accused by the president's chief economic advisor of getting into micro policy issues. it is an important issue, bret for a lot of people. >> bret: you know, our viewers like getting into the weeds, john. appreciate it. we'll be back with you later and have full analysis of the tax proposal. i will also talk live with white house chief of staff, reince priebus in our next hour of
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"special report." meantime, back overseas, an iranian naval vessel in a game of chicken with a u.s. destroyer earlier this week. we brought you that story late yesterday on "special report." it is the latest provocation that many u.s. officials worry could turn into something deadly. correspondent conner powell reports from the newsroom. >> reporter: tensions continue to escalate between iran and u.s. the latest incident came monday, when an iranian guard fast attacked the uss harman. the ship came within 1,000 yards of the american destroyer. the mahan was forced to alter its course and had a danger alarm before a warning flair at the patrol ship. this is just the latest in a growing number of dangerous naval interactions between the u.s. and iran in the last two
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years. in 2016, iran's navy captured ten american sailors after their strip strayed into territorial waters. the americans were ultimately released, but the incident highlighted the growing tensions, as a candidate president trump pushed for a more muscular approach to iran. >> when they circle or destroyers with their little boats, and make gestures at our people that they shouldn't be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water. >> reporter: but so far, it appears the trump administration is trying to avoid a major military incident with iran. even though it is ratcheting up its rhetoric against the obama-backed international agreement. trump called it quote, a terrible idea, saying iran was violating the spirit of it. while at the same time, his administration certified to congress teheran was in
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compliance. just a short while ago, tweets to social media, acknowledging the incident, but sarcastically asking why the u.s. navy was so far away from home, bret. >> bret: live in the middle east newsroom, conner, thank you. the president's chief of staff, as i mentioned will join us in a bit. he says the missile strike on syria earlier this month in response to a chemical weapons is attack is part of a new approach. rich edson is at the state department. >> good evening. a senior official calls it the trump doctrine, setting lines get bad actors without committing to long-term ground wars. an example of that policy, the u.s. strike against an air base in syria in response to a chemical attack against civilians. the united states blames the regime of bashar al-assad in syria for this month's chemical strike. they want russia to join the international efforts to move syria beyond the assad regime. the state department says thus
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far, russia's position remains unchanged in support of assad. >> russian aiding and a bedding the regime to convince them to renew the process, to restart the geneva process so we can get to that -- >> you don't see movement towards that. >> no movement. >> reporter: rush sma sia is de the accuracy report, saying it bears the signature of the assad regime. russia wants more evidence, according to russian state media, lavrov says we can't act in accordance with arnold's character, trust me, we opt for the principle outlined byron na -- by ronald reagan, and criticized the u.s. for the air strike. >> translator: the recent strike
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which has become international rights and act of aggression indeed worsens problems at hand and pushes the prospect for a widen ter national front on terror, even further away. >> reporter: rex tillerson has said that russia is the key to moving beyond the assad regime, a point he made to the russian government in moscow a couple of weeks ago. it appears the russian regime is no closer to the u.s. position. on monday, the united states announced sanctions against 270 syrian government employees, who officials say are part of an agency that works on chemical and ballistic weapons. >> bret: rich, thank you. israel says it has repelled a large cyber attack on government offices, and private citizens. the prime minister's national cyber bureau says the hackers posed as legitimate organization and targeted about 120 entities involved in civilian research, development and advanced technologies. israeli newspaper says the
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government believes the attack was directed by a foreign country. mexico is considering taking action against the u.s. over president trump's plan for a border wall. the correspondent from los angeles with the mexicans are proposing would target people who bring money into their country. >> reporter: almost 30 million americans visit mexico each year. yet its foreign minister said tuesday, he wanted to punish american tourists by imposing an entry fee in retaliation for the proposed border wall, which he called a hostile act. >> the president made it very clear, he tweeted about it earlier, his priorities haven't changed. there will be a wall built. >> reporter: exactly when isn't clear. though going forward, a former rival may help provide a new source of cash. >> el chapo's assets and for that matter, any other drug cartel whose assets are forfeited, their money would go to building the wall.
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>> reporter: the idea has to a long way to go. >> history has been very clear that walls do not work. >> reporter: a bill in california would prohibit the state from doing any business with any company that does any work on the wall. last night, the san diego school board endorsed the legislation. >> we're not only going to not support this hate, we're not going to support company whose support this hate. >> we're not opposed to border security. we're opposed to the wall. >> reporter: in 2006, nearly 100 democrats were going to fund a 100 mile fence to secure the border. democrats refuse to fund a wall that may actually accomplish what they voted for. >> it is not a cookie cutter solution any where along the border. >> reporter: in testimony earlier there month, experts say washington is playing a game of semantics, a fence, a wall or barrier, the purpose is the same. deterring people and drugs from crossing the border will dictate design. >> it really does depend on t
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topogrophy and the climate. >> reporter: the president insists on using the term wall no matter how polarizing. whereas on the border, agents want results, and walls that we can see through like a fence work. officials are evaluating different -- 20 different pro poe types. if there a lesson, here, bret, what they call it, maybe it is important for the product itself. >> bret: more on this with the panel. william, thank you. the conservative house freedom caucus is supporting the latest version of an obama care repeal and replace bill. that news, coming this afternoon. the new plan would let states get federal waivers to some coverage requirements. while it is attracting some conservatives who help torpedo an earlier plan. many are skeptical. paul ryan calls the new effort very constructive, but does not give us a timeline on a vote. president trump is considering an executive order
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on withdrawing the u.s. from the nafta trade agreement. nafta was passed in 1994, to remove tariffs between the u.s., mexico and canada. president trump ran against nafta, and has called it bad for the country. white house sources say the order is written, but has not and might not ever be submitted. we will ask white house chief of staff, reince priebus about this and other topics a little later in the show. up next, a new tax plan, but will it be derailed by the same old partisan politics? we'll take a look.
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>> bret: president trump is proposing what the administration is calling the biggest tax cut ever. but there are some serious concerns, whether the move could balloon and already out of control, federal deficit and then federal debt. correspondent peter doocy is at the capitol tonight with specifics. good evening, peter. >> reporter: good evening, bret. the trump administration isn't worried about what giving big tax cuts to citizens would do to the deficit. the treasury secretary today insisted that the tax plan that scales back from seven tax brackets to just three, 10%, 25% and a top rate of 35% then cuts to corporate tax rate all the way down to 15 percent from 35
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now and then almost doubles the deduction individuals can claim from $6,300 a day to $12,000 a year, and doubles the deduction for married couples all the way to $24,000 will get the economy growing more than 3% a year, which they say would pay for everything. >> what this is about is creating jobs and creating economic growth. and that's what massive tax cuts and massive tax reform in simplifying the system is what we're going to do. >> reporter: on capitol hill, the senate's top democratic, chuck schumer expressed pessimism, but didn't say he was 100% opposed yet. >> i can tell you this. if the president's plan is to give a massive tax break to the
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very well th very well th very wealthy, people and businesses like president trump's, that won't pass muster with the democrats zmplic. >> reporter: speaker of the house, paul ryan will use reconciliation, where bills considered only need a simple majority, which republicans have. >> we want to look at every avenue, but we think it is the preferred, logical process to bring it through. chairman hankling is marking it up. once we markup the bill, we want to move it to the bill as quickly as possible. >> reporter: if republican leaders can get the conservatives in their own party, then they have the votes to send it to president trump's desk so it will become the law of the land. when president trump was here yesterday, i asked him if he thinks it will be trouble for
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the republicans to fall in line around a tax reform package, and he said no. bret. >> bret: we'll see. peter, thank you. let's get analysis from mia mcginnis, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> bret: you heard the bullet points there. it is ambitious. we don't have all the details, but they're starting to put things on paper. the big concern, i guess, is this revenue neutral part of it. >> well, that's a big concern. so i think if you this i about tax reform, that will simplify the tax code, enhance the competitiveness, that's a great idea. long overdue and something we really need to do. but if you're going to come up with a plan that ultimately adds trillions of dollars to our already near record levels of debt, that will turn out to be a bad idea that will leave the fiscal situation worst than it already is, and undercut all the benefits of growth you can potentially get from tax reform. the big question here is how will we offset the cost of the plan, which is likely to be trillions of dollars.
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>> bret: so the treasury secretary was peppered with questions about that. here is one of his answers. >> this will pay for itself with growth, and with reduced reduction of different deductions, and closing loopholes. this plan is going to lower the debt to gdp. the economic plan under trump will grow the economy and will create massive amounts of revenues, trillions of dollars in additional revenues. >> bret: so we've heard, maya before that growth will take care of it, and it just comes down to the numbers, does it add up at the end? >> yeah, so let's start with the end. let's set a fiscal goal where this administration wants to be ten years from now, whether it is balancing the budget or getting the debt lower, the share of gdp, which would be a great start, put it on a downward path so the economy will be growing faster than the debt. let's pick that goal and develop a whole comprehensive plan to get us there. but right now, for many months,
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we've had the administration saying we're going to grow the economy so much, that's how we'll deal with the fiscal challenges. the president said during this $20 trillion threat is a real threat and it is. he was going to use economic growth to deal with that. but now if we're going to use the economic growth to pay for tax cuts, you can't use the growth twice, and more realistically, the growth numbers they're talking about really ambitious. the reason is, not because these aren't the right policies to help grow the economy. they will grow it some. but the big challenges we have, the labor markets changing, people aging, the labor force isn't going to grow as quickly as it used to. we can't just put in wishful thinking of high growth rates and say that will fix the problem. we have to have a plan. this will get us some growth, but won't pay for itself. >> bret: for a president who says at least now that he is not touching entitlements, you can't cut enough from that budget to make up the difference.
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>> honestly, the biggest piece of the picture here. they talked about finding a reasonable fiscal goal, great idea. reforming the tax code, great idea. but it shouldn't lose revenue. they're taking entitlements off the table, the numbers won't add up. if we don't take the steps we have to in social security and medicare it, will leave us vulnerable to those programs, they are expected to not be sustainable. we have to make changes. that doesn't help them. that hurts them. we need to put them on the table. they are the biggest drivers of our national debt, along with interest. they have to be part of the whole equation. >> bret: okay, maya, thank you very much. we'll talk more on this with the panel. still ahead in the next hour, if there is one story, guaranteed to make you angry, this will be it. how your tax dollars go to pay rewards for ter arirorists. trump's first 100 days, our series all week long, continues after this break.
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>> bret: all this week, we're looking at president trump's first 100 days. you may have heard that this week. a milestone he reaches saturday. tonight, the challenges the new president has faced, and what he has done about them. here is correspondent kevin cork. >> we will make america great again. >> reporter: his signature phrase, but president trump's campaign to make america great again has been almost as compestious, international legal storms that could offer a glimpse into the many challenges yet to come. domestic challenges running the gam plut fr gamut, jobs, trade, infrastructure, and of course, feeling what many, pect whseats
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supreme court. tax reform have been pitched as the twin sales of the trump administration, whose concept is fairly straightforward. sweep away the affordable care act and create a new plan with more cost savings and options, for the white house and congress to partner on meaningful tax reform. >> for the consideration of hr16218 postponed. >> reporter: but the president's first attempt led by house speaker paul ryan failed to marshall enough votes on capitol hill, despite the embarrassing set back, the president remains optimistic. >> it has been misreported we failed. we're continuing to negotiate. >> reporter: he says the savings will help to fund a tax overh l overhaul. certainly, jobs trade and infrastructure all figure to be impacted by any new tax plan. the white house has called the effort to rebuild america's roads and bridges a jobs
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catalyst, with both domestic and international trade implications, white the president has made renegotiating like nafta a major priority, it is jobs that are on the minds of many voters. >> i would love to see the economy come back and jobs come back. >> we need to get down to the basics and let people make a living, you know. a living wage. >> we will build the wall and mexico will pay for the wall. 100%. >> reporter: the president's desire to enhance border security has been a major aspect. headlined of course by the construction of a wall between the u.s. and mexico, which brings with it financial and legal implications for the projected cost of more than $20 billion. this, as the legal debate over who gets to enter the country, and who is allowed to remain, carols from the congress to the courts. >> i've always heard that the most important thing that a
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president of the united states does is appoint people hopefully great people like this appointment to the united states supreme court. >> reporter: arguably, the president's signature victory for his first 100 days, hot button cases involving race, abortion and faith, and the likelihood of needing to find and confirm other judges to the high court. internationally, the president inherited the war on terror and evolving mission in afghanistan. >> the challenge as it was for the obama administration ahead for the trump administration is putting that counter isis operation into a more holistic strategy. >> reporter: the president also faced the potential nuclear crisis with north korea, as pyongyang continues to dare the west with repeated ballistic missile tests. >> so far, i have gotten nothing, absolutely nothing. >> reporter: add to that, an
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increasingly thorny relationship with china, ongoing war in syria, and the iran nuclear deal. and of course, there is russia. >> i hope that we get along great with putin. i hope he likes me. >> reporter: though no evidence of collusion or criminality has been discovered, ongoing investigations and political rhetoric could cloud the chances of improved relations with the kremlin. a challenge exacerbated to launch missiles into syria, a russian ally. meanwhile, the president's decision to strike has raised the stakes with north korea. which has threatened to strike the west with a nuclear war head if provoked. analysts say it is clear that the new president will have his hands full well beyond his first 100 days. >> you can cut the wrong thing leak like a surgeon. this is an age of nuclear war. he has inherited some huge
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problems. anything can happen. >> the great irony is this a president who said he campaigned for america first, it is all about jobs, and a very significant part of his first 1 hundred days. the projection of american power. >> reporter: another challenge i want to pass along we didn't have in the piece, the president faces a major challenge from the mainstream media, who white house officials tell me have somehow managed to have editorial pages of nonstop criticism of the administration. >> bret: kevin, the experts you talked to, what do they say is the challenge that possibly has the longest lasting impact potentially for the administration? >> reporter: there were a couple actually. i think it is really the economy, frankly. obviously north korea as well. they say that will really ultimately define the trump presidency, if he manages to grow the economy and does what
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he is supposed to do on that end. frankly, he'll get reelected. it is how he handles the threat of north korea that will be telling, one wrong move could push the world to world war iii. it is a high wire actl have to on. >> bret: senator tess white house today. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> bret: we're joined by our friends from the five, which you may have noticed moved to 9:00 p.m. hi, guys, congrats on the early success at 9:00 p.m. i want to talk about the challenges the president faces. as we're dealing with north korea, we're dealing with iran, obviously, russia's aggression, you still have the domestic tax reform, health care and the funding at the end of the week. i mean, it is a mixed bag, dana. >> it certainly is. those are only the threats you know about. there are increasingly going to be problems in venezuela that i
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don't know exactly what we would have to do, but i do think there could be problems in south america, and also, the humanitarian crisis happening in africa as we speak. i do think that president trump set us on a different footing in the first 100 days when dealing with our allies, sort of reshoring up the partnerships and also putting our enemies on notice. maybe that wasn't anticipated, but it is not unusual for a president when gets into office to say oh, my gosh, there isn't as much time to do the domestic things i wanted to do, because foreign policy is the first and foremost priority. >> bret: juan, the biggest challenge is north korea. we're hearing from the senator whose were in the meeting, a classified meeting. they're not talking about details, but both democrats and republicans talking about how impress dollars they were wi impressed they were with how it was laid out. it was unusual having them all invited to the white house. >> very unusual, but again, this is something as dana was saying, a lot of stuff that president trump does has surprised us, and
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one of them i think is a real contrast to president obama, his relationship with the senate so far. which is that he is willing to do business. he is willing to have them over, have people to dinner and the like. you are just heard for example, one of his former rivals, marco rubio, talking about a great dinner he had with the president and first lady at the white house. that's part of the difference. i also think the senators, especially people who were hyper critical, anti-republican establishment candidate, are pleased by a number of people that he has put in place, including secretary of defense, mattis, and also people at the national security council. they've had trust in him. that's what was reflected in the meeti meeting on korea today. >> bret: the freedom caucus is signing on to this new repeal and replace effort on health care. it seems like it is still a lot of juggling for republicans in the house, but they may be
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closer tonight. >> they might be, and they said they get to an agreement, they would be able to move it quickly. i'm going to reserve judgment. i don't know if that's going to be possible. i think can you get the freedom caucus to agree and hold the rest of the republicans? i don't know. >> bret: yeah, if it doesn't, juan, that would be 0-2 or health care. >> it is a big 0-1. at this points, it is a salvage operation. is it of significance? as you recall, you have to go back to the senate and then go with whatever the senate does to reconciliation. i don't see it at this point. >> bret: we will follow it and tune in for the five. see you then. >> thank you. coming up, president trump reacts to another judicial ruling, blocking part of his immigration policy.
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at tens of millions of acres of lands as national monday yument. critics said the designation made the land useless. a complete report on this story, next hour. the senate has taken another step toward the confirmation of the president's pick for labor secretary. the nomination of alexander acosta goes to the floor for a final up or down vote this week. acosta was chosen after the president's original nominee, andrew puzder withdrew. speaking of controversy in san francisco, see you in the supreme court. the president is hopping mad about the judge's decision to take away what the president has termed a weapon against communities who ignore
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immigration law. correspondent claudia cohen has the story from san francisco. >> reporter: federal funding for law enforcement, transportation, housing and other critical services was at risk of being yanked under president trump's executive order targeting so-called sanctuary cities that refused to cooperate with i.c.e. immigration and customs enforcement. in san francisco, officials say the threat of losing between 1 to $2 billion made it impossible to plan a budget. >> that's why we had to bring the lawsuit, santa clara had to bring a lawsuit to bring certainty and clarity to what was at risk. >> reporter: no longer at risk now, but that could change in october, when the new fiscal year begins, and federal grants are approved. >> the new grants will be written by the present congress and signed by president trump, and they will have in them the requirement you want the money, you cooperate with i.c.e. you don't cooperate with i.c.e., you don't get the money. >> reporter: the lawsuit was filed just blocks from where bay
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area residents, kay steinle was shot, and five time deporety, who was supposed to have been turned over to federal immigration agents but shielded by the city's sanctuary policy. the case became a campaign talking points, who signed an executive order in january, hoping it would encourage sanctuary cities to cooperate. lashing out on twitter this morning, he called yesterday's ruling ridiculous, adding see you in the supreme court. >> cities break the law and don't enforce federal law, there should beconsequences, and this is a big problem, but the president is committed to tackling since day one. we're going to move forward and we'll prevail in the supreme court. >> reporter: tonight, the judge who issued the injunction is coming under scrutiny. barack obama nominated william oreck in 2012, after he reportedly raised more than $200,000 for the 2008 presidential campaign.
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in a statement reacting to yesterday's ruling, the white house vowed to quote, pursue all legal remedies to the sanctuary city threat. tonight, we're still waiting to hear if that means challenging the injunction at the ninth circuit court of appeals here in san francisco. >> bret: claudia, thank you. a reprieve for sang wectuar cities, and we'll discuss that with the panel, when we come back. when heartburn hits, fight back fast with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum
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ninth circuit. as i said, we'll see them at the supreme court. >> he has been denied the constitutional and statutory authority protect the united states. >> undocumented residents of this country commit crimes a far, far, far less rate than other citizens. so i think it is a red herring. >> the people who are violating the border like crazy, we should use their ill-gotten gains to finally build the wall. >> bret: we'll talk about that in just a minute. but first, the sanctuary cities and the judge's ruling. jenna goldberg, lisa booth,
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columnist with the washington examin examiner, and tom beven, real clear politics. donald trump, the president tweeting this morning. first, the nine circuit rules against the ban and hits again on sanctuary cities. see you in the supreme court, out of the big country with many choices, does everyone notice the ban case and now the sanctuary case is brought in the ninth circuit, which has a terrible record of being overturned, close to 80%. they used to call this judge shopping, messy system. first of all, it was district court that made the decision, but he is right, the ninth circuit would hear the appeal. your thought about this reaction and this ruling? >> yeah, i basically agree with everything he said there. i think part of the problem is in this quest to sort of pad the 100 day stuff, they oversold what the executive order could do and the judge in a desire to
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outdo all the previous judges in making a mountain out of a molehill and prening for the public in mock outrage, they exaggerated what the thing would do as well. the executive order says the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security, quote, in their discretion and to the extent consistent with law, may do the following things. in other words, nothing new here. all he had to do is enforce existing law. this judge went on for 60, 90 pages, pretending it said more than that. it is much ado about nothing snees comi. >> bret: he is under skrscrutin obama campaign, not surprising for judges, but it just happens to come up in this ruling. >> to jonah's point, the political optics are very complex, are interesting to me
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in the sense that this judge is making this ruling writing these lengthy arguments against the executive order, when it doesn't actually do much. and 80% of the country, meaning mainstream america, democrats included, believe sanctuary cities are a problem and that local law enforcement should be getting the criminals out of the cities and they do pose a significant threat. and when you look at the details of what americans want, most americans want a path to citizenship for criminal illegal ail yens. they do want criminal violent aliens out. what mainstream america wants, they need more mainstream americans to come to their side. >> bret: tom. >> i generally agree, i don't think it is a bad thing for donald trump to be fighting with the courts on this issue. when you talk about the window, framing of this public discourse, trump has moved the window. we had a lot of cities around the country that have stopped
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doing sanctuary city type policies, merely because they don't want to get crossed with the federal government. i think by and large, this will sort itself out. i agree with jonah. it is much to do about nothing. politically speaking, i don't think it is bad for donald trump to be mixing it up with the ninth circuit. >> bret: the same spot, san francisco, for the kate steinle murder, which he talked a lot on the campaign trail. >> responding to this ruling, mentioning the fact that san francisco is where kate steinle was murdered, a five-time deported illegal immigrant. this a win politically for president trump, regardless what happens. this is a base issue. we know according to recent polling, his base is solidly behind him already. so he gets to claim to this judge in san francisco, a sanctuary city. also, mind you, the trump administration approaching the 100 day mark can taught a cheou
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achievements along the border. march, a monthly low, 17-year low. so i think for president trump, this is a win, no matter what happens. >> bret: is there any concern of him saying to break up the ninth circuit, telling the washington examiner, i want to break it up or look at it? isn't there kind of like an executive branch judicial branch separation? >> ninth circuit should be broken up. i think some of it should be exil exil exiled. this is so much better than where we were six months ago with donald trump attacking a job for his ethnicity. this is the right thing. i'm going see you in the supreme court. that's what you're supposed to say. >> bret: i want to play senator ted cruz with his proposal. >> if el chapo is convicted, the estimates are his criminal fortune is worth about $14 billion. now, coincidentally, the estimates for the cost to build a wall range from 14 to
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$20 billion. these drug cartels are the ones that are crossing the border, smuggling narcotics. my legislation is simple. el chapo's assets, for that matter, any other drug cartel, whose assets are forfeited, their money would go to building the wall and keeping the border secure and keeping the country safe. >> bret: katie, if this passes, mexico will pay for the well. >> they indeed will. someone from mexico will pay for the wall. look, i think it is a great idea. i mean, what is the mexican government going to do? say they're not going to cooperate on cartel policy, when the cartels, based on the numbers we have now, it isn't illegal immigrants, it is cartel activity. in general, they make $3 billion in revenue by crossing the u.s./mexico border every single year. they're very violent. el chapo is responsible for thousands of murders of mexican citizens. he was extradited to the united
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states, and that will be hard to do with other cartels. >> bret: yes or no? is this passing? >> oh, i -- i have no idea. >> bret: all right. >> i'm going to say yes. >> probably not, along with the majority of legislation, but it is brilliant, so kudos to senator cruz. >> rip off from clear and present danger. it will pass. >> bret: all right, thank you, panel. that does it for us for the first hour of "special report." after a short break, brand new fox polls, the latest on the president's tax plans and a one-on-one interview with white house chief of staff, reince priebus. a lot to ask him, on a busy day. stay with us.
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>> bret: this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier for the second hour of "special report." we have new fox polls on a host of questions tonight. including president trump's job approval rating. on a very busy day in washington. president trump and his administration rolling out his tax reform package. calling it the biggest tax cuts in history. he is also dealing with north korea, china, iran, sanctuary cities here at home. and by the way, the u.s. government funding runs out in 54 hours. all of this comes as the latest fox news poll shows the job approval rating at 45% with 48% disapproving. those numbers are slightly better for him than last month. but fewer people think the economy is getting better, just
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42% compared to 48% last month. 37% feel it is getting worst, and that's a big increase. 18% as you see staying the same. about half of you think the president is keeping his promises from the campaign trail. the rest believe he is drifting off course. we have fox team coverage tonight, mike emmanuel with what's being done on capitol hill about a possible government shut down, and chief white house correspondent, john roberts starts us off with a president who has his hands full tonight. >> reporter: good evening. it is far from a plan, more a statement of principle than anything. but today, president trump got the ball rolling on his intent to reform the tax code, and implement the biggest tax cut in decades. >> we have a once in a generation opportunity. >> reporter: that's how white house officials describe the tax reform proposal they unveiled today, one like past, lower for individuals and businesses. >> what this is about is
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creating jobs and creating economic growth. >> reporter: the number of personal income tax brackets would be cut from 7 to 3. the rate set at 10%, 25% and 35%. the president will nearly double the standard deduction from individuals from the current $6,300 to $12,000. married couples will pay no tax on the first $24,000 in income. the corporate tax rate would be slashed from the current 35% to 15%. the same rate would apply to many small businesses. >> the president is determined to unleash economic growth for businesses. this is not just about large corporations. >> reporter: president trump is also promising to repeal the death tax and alternative minimum tax and allow corporations to repatriot at an attractive rate. he'll eliminate all personal deductions, except mortgage interest and charitable deductions. no word on whether he'll make
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good on his campaign promise to eliminate the marriage penalty. democrats laid down a marker. >> if the president's plan is to give a massive tax break to the very well th very wealthy, that will benefit people and businesses like president trump, that won't pass muster with we democrats. >> reporter: the president's top economic advisor, gary cohen, is predicting a fight. but one he says the president will ultimately win. >> we will be attacked from the left and we'll be attacked from the right. but one thing is certain. i would never, ever bet against this president trump. he will get this done for the american people. >> reporter: while tax reform took center stage at the white house, there was also the extraordinary scene of bus loads of senators arriving for a briefing on the growing threat from north korea. democratic senator, chris coons, who had been highly critical of president trump's foreign policy says he has been reassured about the president's handling of the threat. >> this is the sort of situation that calls for all of us to be
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more measured and more determined in our focus on pushing back against the north korea threat. >> reporter: amid the rising tensions, they tested a ballistic missile, capable of carrying a war head, flying from the california coast to the marshall islands in the south pacific. >> i'm never surprised by the ni ninth circuit. as i said, we'll see you in the supreme court. >> reporter: meanwhile, president trump blasted a court ruling that blocked a white house order to withhold federal funds from sanctuary cities. in an interview with the washington examiner, president trump said he is thinking about taking steps to break up the ninth circuit court of appeals. the u.s. is willing to negotiate an end po pyongyang's nuclear program, but also said the united states stands more than ready to defend itself and its
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alli allies. bret. >> bret: john, thank you. we are a little more than two days from the federal government essentially running out of money. the funding for this year. chief congressional correspondent, mike emmanuel has the latest on what's being done to stop a friday night shut down. >> we'll continue to fund the government. >> we're awfully close. i mean, we would like to get it done this week. we're within striking distance. >> there are some issues we have to deal with. >> reporter: facing a friday midnight deadline, they're trying to strike a deal to fund the government through september. but with the expectation that democratic votes will be needed in the house and senate, their leaders see an opportunity. >> they'll need our input, and that's where democrats -- we have leverage. >> reporter: democrats agreed to providing $15 billion more in defense spending, but wanted the package to include obama care subsidies.
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>> we're not doing that. that's something separate that the administration does. >> reporter: last night, lawmakers unveiled an amendment from tom mcarthur, and mark meadows. when asked by fox if it had the votes to pass the house, ryan expressed support. >> we want to give the states to customize the reforms to lower premiums and protect preexisting conditions, that's exactly at the hart of what the mcarthur amendment does. >> reporter: the freedom caucus backed the plan, saying while the revised version does not repeal obama care, we are prepared to support it, to keep our promise to the american people to lower health care costs. but the concern for gop leadership is winning over conservatives could use moderate whose are also needed to pass the bill. >> my concern is what will happen to seniors, allowing insurance companies to charge seniors five times as much. it wasn't addressed in any of this. >> reporter: some democrats are suggesting changes to health care reform won't fit senate
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reconciliation rules, allowing it pass it with a simple majority, suggesting it would take 60 votes to pass in the senate. the more immediate battle is passing it through the house, which sources suggest could come next week. bret. >> bret: mike emmanuel, live on the hill. thanks. let's get the administration's perspective tonight. reince priebus, president trump's chief of staff, joining us from the north lawn of the white house. thanks for being here. >> happy to be here, bret. >> bret: first, what mike just wrapped up talking about, the status of health care, the freedom caucus saying they'll sign on. >> it is in a good place. obviously there is more people that need to be looking at the amendment, and they're reading very carefully the text of the amendment, and the effects of the amendments on the overall bill. but i can tell you, the administration is feeling fairly positive tonight about where things are at on the health care repeal and replace bill of obama care.
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we're hopeful there may be a vote soon. we don't want to put an artificial deadline on it, bret. we learned that a few weeks ago. we want to keep getting this thing in a better place and we think it is possible to get a vote soon. or next week, but whatever they decide and however we can get it done, we'll be excited about it. but we're very hopeful tonight. >> bret: you look at the real clear politics on obama care, and there a chart that shows how the numbers have changed since the inauguration. they kind of go two different directions, a lot more people signing on to obama care saying that it is a good thing. meantime, democrats, i think we could put up that chart, democrats on the floor today, including senator chuck schumer saying you're not reaching out to them. take a listen. >> i couldn't hear the audio, but look --
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>> bret: either could we. >> that's okay. >> bret: i'll tell you, chuck schumer said you haven't reached out to democrats and they're not going to sign on to anything -- anything that -- anything until the repeal part is out of the system. >> i could safely assume it wasn't positive, right. but look, we're happy to get their support. they're going to have an opportunity to vote on the bill as well and they have an opportunity to govern through all these committees and through the process as well. this process was run through regular order from the beginning, and that regular order means that everyone that has a say in the process. so if they want to come on board and give us ideas of how to make the bill better, certainly we'll listen to them. the truth of the matter, is obama care is failing everywhere, and many states, only one choice of an insurance carrier in counties across the country. it is failing. i do think some of the third party groups have done a good job with artificially propping up the bill, and creating noise at hearings, and that's what
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politics is all about. but the truth is, obama care has been a disaster for many years and we've all pledged to do something about it. that's what we're doing hopefully tonight, tomorrow and the next day. >> bret: all right, tax reform. the rollout today, first of all, was this rollout done because you learned something from health care that you need to be on the front end of this? >> no, not necessarily. i think that, you know, in regard to health care, it is something that the republicans have been talking about for six years, and tom price is one of the architects who happened to be our secretary of hhs, and so obviously, we had a plan that we've been working on for a long time. in regard to tax reform, we feel like it is something that the white house should drive and we have driven the process. we've been meeting, bret, for all the listeners, we've been talking about this since before november, but right after november, we were meeting in the halls of congress with our team. you may recall, in november and december, we had many meetings with paul ryan and kevin brady, ways and means about this process.
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it just came to a head today. we wanted to outline the basic structure of what our tax reform would look like. but the next step, though, is to take the basic structure and bring it to the american people and the halls of congress to make it better and to fill in the details and make sure that when we do rollout the actual bill and text, it is something that is well thought out, and something that the american people will universally or as much as you can get to universal praise will be happy about it. >> bret: obviously this doesn't have all the details, it is bullet points and goals. but looking even at this, how do you avoid busting the budget? how do you avoid the fact that it has to be revenue neutral? how do you make it revenue neutral, looking at these numbers? >> dynamic scoring, you wants to hope for great growth, three, four, who knows how far you can go on growth. the point is to bring jobs back immediately, put more money in people's pockets, so they're spending it in other places. make a simplified tax form for
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people to fill out. when people are looking at those rates, going from seven or eight to something like zero, ten, 25, 35, people can look at that, and i think it makes a lot of sense. and then you take the business rate, you go from 35%, one of the highest tax countries in the world, and president trump takes that right down to 15%, companies are not going to have to leave our country any more, and they'll make more money, and people across the country and my neighbors in kenosha, wisconsin can put more money in their pocket, providing a better future for their kids, retire like normal people, like things used to be in this country and live a life of dignity. that's what we want. that's what the president wants. >> bret: have you faced a learning curve in this job? how do you describe it? >> yeah, everyone learns. no one really prepares to walk into the west wing. so certainly, a learning curve in that. and the decisions are enormous and decision-making process involves a lot different
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opinions and people that need to get together before they're presented to the president. that in and of itself is a learning curve. if you look at what this president did, president trump has hit the ball out of the park. the bills that he has signed, the foreign policy realignment for this country, the future of we're heading, and tax reform, infrastructure, he hit it is out of the park everyday, and the amount work that president trump does, veterans, education, teacher of the year. just today, tax reform. it doesn't end with this president. and he is the hardest working guy i've ever seen. >> bret: you make which training come in and when. you make the schedule behind the scenes. what has been the biggest challenge? >> i think like what i said before. i mean, these things don't happen by accident. you don't get all of these events during the day happening. you don't get all of these different groups coming in and out. you donltd g't get the decision
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process making automatically. it takes a great team, which president trump has put together, a diverse team. >> bret: is steve bannon staying on? >> of course. he is doing great. jar re jared and i are doing well, kellyanne, we're all doing great. i remind people all the time, because people like to write about the diversity of personality that we have in the west wing. it was that diversity of personality that president trump was able to bring together to unify our party, diverse as the party is, and it is, he was able to bring it together, the same team that brought it together in november, it is the same team right now helping president trump everyday. >> bret: all right, a couple of quick ones here. a report about a nafta executive order that you'll do an executive order to get out of nafta or renegotiate the deal. is that true? >> the president is talking about renegotiating nafta. i'm not going to get ahead of ourselves on we're at on that.
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but it is something the president has been talking about. but here is the thing for everyone. the president has been talking about since nafta came into play under president clinton. so this isn't anyone's idea. >> bret: but doing an executive order rather than through congress would be different. >> well, it is different -- different legal hurdles that you have to satisfy before you actually either renegotiate or withdraw from nafta. so those legal hurdles are one thing, withdrawing is another thing. the withdrawal is a different issue. so we're talking about steps prior to withdrawal that have to take place that the president has been talking about. >> bret: filling white house positions, of 556 key positions that require senate confirmation, 468 of them have no nominee as of tonight. 40 are awaiting nomination. it is on pace to be the fewest nominations in 40 years at the end of 100 days. is that speeding up, and why has
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this kind of been a slow process? >> because what you don't see there, bret, two different things. the decision-making process of what fills the slots and then the clearance process. the clearance process is a process that we can't control. we have hundreds of people in the decision-making process, which is already done. so for example, you could have all of your undersecretaries at hss already picked. the president signed off on them, been interviewed, ready to go. once you get that person, you have to put them into what is called the office of government ethics, oge. the fbi. that clearance process can take 30 to 40 days. go back to where we were with this democratic senate. they still haven't confirmed all of the cabinet secretaries. everyone knows how slow and insane this confirmation process has been. so if you're rex tillerson or you're tom price, or you're david shulkin for the va, you've just been confirmed a few weeks ago, and now you're picking your people, been cleared and we're waiting for oge before you send someone up to the senate.
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so if you look atctual chosen people, against clinton and previous presidents, we're not right on pace, we're head of the pace. >> bret: reince priebus, we appreciate your time tonight. >> you bet. thank you. what does it all mean. brit hume is here with us tonight to give us an assessment. good evening, brit. you just heard reince, the big news about the tax reform. your thoughts? >> well, i think the tax reform is unmistakebly a tax cut, whether they can make it tax reform by making it revenue neutral remains to be seen. when you cut tax rates as steeply as they are cut, they plan to cut them in this, the revenue loss may be tremendous and the deficit will balloon. that will be offset, i think it
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is fair to argue, how great an extent is unclear from the growth you'll get out of it. never pro growth tax cut pay force itself. there is this, bret, and this will be part of the argument, you can bet on it. that is that as the -- if the economy gross, a larger ee c ec can carry more debt. in the 1980s, the deficit grew strongly, the economy was robust and company came through fine. such a build-up in the national debt over the past decade or so, that i'm not sure that that's very comforting. so they're going to have a fight on their hands here. the details will matter. >> bret: the details about getting into the weeds here, but being revenue neutral allows you to use this reconciliation 51 votes as opposed to having to get 60, where you have to get democrats to sign on. the problem is if it is not revenue neutral, it can only last for ten years, then if you
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make it revenue neutral or get 60 votes, it could last forever. that's a big hurdle. >> it is. this happened back in 1986, bret. i remember the debate very well. president reagan was in favor of tax reform, but didn't really push it until late in the game. and it became an idea whose time had come in the sense that the arguments for it were pretty powerful. it really did change the tax code measurably. you can't buy future congresses, so if you reform the tax code now and simplify it and you scrape away a lot of the deductions in the preferences that exist in the tax code now, which will help make it revenue neutral by the way, because you close a lot of these tax breaks down by which revenue is lost, that is a great thing. it doesn't bind future congresses of course, so it will
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be tempts to punch holes in it again. that's the way it has always been. that's the challenge. and you know, when it ended up passing, it passed pretty strongly. so they've got a chance here. there will be a big argument where it is revenue neutral. there will be a big argument, as there always is, when you cut tax rates, that it is a tax cut for the rich. that's a function of the math, bret. the people who pay most of the taxes are going to benefit when they're cut more than the people who pay little or no taxes. that's just the way life works. but it is a very tempting argument, and one that the democrats are using already. you could hear chuck shochumer today. >> bret: thank you. we'll be bringing you a five-part series on trump's first 100 days in office. the 5:00 hour of the two-hour special report, but they'll be va available on the special report
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home page. kevin cork will talk about the challenges the president has faced, and previous stories by john roberts and james rosen there as well. up next, president trump calls it a land grab, and a mistake. what he is doing to undo one of president obama's big environmental moves. nobody does underwater stunts, sylvia. except me, of course. this is my stop. adios! ♪ if you're a stuntman, you cheat death. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. número uno!
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kurds terrorists. pope francis is using new media to get his message out that the powerful must act humbly or risk ruin. the pope delivered a videotape address to a ted conference in vancouver. ted stands for technology, entertainment and design. he organizes them around the world and puts them on the internet. story we brought you earlier, president trump is preparing to undo another obama era environmental move. he calls it a massive federal land grab. others say it is vital protection of the environment. correspondent doug mcelway looks at both sides from the white house. >> reporter: in the last days of his administration, president obama handed a big gift to environmentalists, using the antiquities act, 3 million acres in utah, larger than the state of long island as the national
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monument. it came overheated objections over the utah legislation, and the entire congressional delegation. >> my constituents depend on the land resources have been on the mer without of touch bureaucrats who have little knowledge or personal connection to the land. >> reporter: after consulting with hatch and other opponents, president trump today also acted unilaterally to undo what his predecessor did. >> it should never have happened. that's why today, i'm signing this order, and directing secretary zinke to end these abuses and return control to the people. >> reporter: today's executive order directs the interior department to review any monument that is over 100,000 acres in size, over 40 meet that criteria. environmental groups are threatening a fight. >> we're waiting to see what the president or congress decides to do. if they in fact attempted to
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rescind or remove protection from some of the areas within these national monuments, we'll be prepared to litigate. >> reporter: the antiquities act has been abused, the smallest area come patable to be protected. the average size has increased from 422 acres to millions of acres. >> in some cases, monument designations have placed public lands off-limits for grazing, fishing, mining, multiple use, and even outdoor recreation. >> we heard already this morning that there is an interest in emphasizing more extractive, oil and gas, and that's unfortunate. >> reporter: the administration says before they were designated as monuments, local residents had better access and better
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stewar stewards. >> bret: the head of the fcc wants to ditch the internet regulations called net neutrality, from interfering with the sites and apps consumers use. telecom companies hate the regulations, giants such as google, facebook and amazon, want the rules to stay in place. police officers in seattle are waiting for a federal judge to clear the way for the use of body cameras. the big sticking point, when the officers get to see the video. it has become an issue across the nation. as many places consider this correspondent, dan springer is in seattle tonight. >> reporter: on their way to becoming as common for police as batons and bullets. body cams sold as a tool to improve accountability. but pushing back against police department policies that allow officers to view their cop cam video before writing the
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reports, on when force is used. >> for some reason to make the interaction within policy. >> we've got split seconds to make a decision, and i might not see everything. >> reporter: the controversy surfaced in 2015, when university of cincinnati officer, ray tensing shot and killed motorist, sam dubois. he was later fired and able to view his video before making a statement. some believe it was a factor in the murder case ending in a hung jury and mistrial. >> put the knife down! >> reporter: in seattle, this fatal cop shooting of a wood carver led d.o.j. to investigate the whole department. among the changes, a body cam for every officer. now the city and police monitor are battling in federal court over seattle's policy to let officers view the video before writing reports. in all but the most serious use of force cases. in his court brief, the judge
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wrote, officers may get an inappropriate opportunity to get their stories straight. >> what seattle police department and other police departments across the country are doing right now is creating an uneven playing field. >> reporter: law enforcement groups overwhelmingly disagree. saying body cams should not be used as a gotcha tool to free criminals and ruin the careers of good cops. >> it doesn't make any sense to prevent any officer from viewing some important evidence that helps him or her recall accurately and truthfully what happened. >> reporter: in its legal brief, seattle argued restricting cops from viewing the video only erodes public confidence in police, leads to many hours of writing reports and less time actually fighting crime. bret. >> bret: dan, thank you. the supreme court heard arguments about when you can strip the american citizenship. even minor lies about childhood
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nicknames can loead to a loss i citizenship. chief justice john roberts said the policy could lead to prosecutorial abuse. look at the markets now. dow closed down 21 today. s&p 500 dropped one. the nasdaq dropped a fraction. this will make you angry. did you know some of your tax dollars may be paying rewards to the family of terrorists who kill americans. that's right. your money becoming blood money for people who murder your countrymen. the parents of one of those slain americans wants this to stop. here is senior correspondent, eric shaw. >> reporter: taylor force was a west point graduate who served in afghanistan and iraq, and was pursuing his mba at vanderbilt, his future was bright. >> taylor was stabbed to death while in israel by a palestinian. >> reporter: the 28-year-old was
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savagely knifed to death last year. his killer, a pass stin ylestin terrorist. >> all dads and moms are proud of their kids. taylor basically did everything right, but he was humble about it. >> reporter: taylor's parents, robby and stewart, says their grief was compounded that the terrorist's family is making money. they pay the jihadists who are involved in acts of terrorism money that is derived from u.s. funds. a congressional bill named for taylor, called the taylor force act, would cut off aid to the palestinian authority. lindsey graham is the bill's main sponsor. >> can you imagine growing up in a country where your government will pay you for killing someone
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else through a terrorist act. >> reporter: the u.s. gives the palestinian authority more than $3 million a year, and shelling out that much to the family. taylor's killer was shot to death by israeli police after the attack. the ambassador to the united nations defends the payments. >> there are a large number who are receiving compensation. they are victims of israeli terrorism. >> reporter: taylor's parents hope the bill will discourage acts of terrorism. >> it is so important that the taylor force act passes so that other sons and daughters, brothers and sisters aren't lost in this way. >> reporter: senator graham says president trump will sign the taylor force act. but passage remains uncertain. because so far, not one democratic supports it.
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bret. >> bret: eric shaw in new york. thank you. nasa's casini probe is supposed to be in space between s saturn and its ring. this is the first of its kind mission in a final one forecast sinn -- for casini, and if it survives the first round, it could make as many as 21 more crossings before its demise in september. up next, the panel joins me to talk about president trump's tax reform plan, and if it has a chance, next. we asked a group of young people when they thought they should start saving for retirement. then we asked some older people when they actually did start saving. this gap between when we should start saving and when we actually do is one of the reasons why too many of us aren't prepared for retirement. just start as early as you can.
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in the american history. >> understand -- under the trump plan, we'll have a massive tax cut for businesses and massive tax reform in simplification. >> this isn't going to be easy. we're determined to move this as fast as we can and get this done this year. >> we will be attacked from the left and we will be attacked from the right. but one thing is certain. i would never, ever bet against this president. he will get this done for the american people. >> bret: well, white house briefing filled with economic analysis of the president's tax reform plan. bullet points here of what it looks like now. the details yet to be filled in. basically cut the number of income tax brackets from three. the top rate is 39.6%. double the standard deduction to reduce taxable income. reduce corporate tax rate from 35% to 15%. repeal the amt alternative tax,
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and the estate tax. also known as the death tax and the 3.8% tax on investment income, that was imposed by obama care. here is what democrats said today. >> if the president's plan is to give a massive tax break to the very wealthy in this country, a plan that will mostly benefit people and businesses like president trump's, that won't pass muster with we democrats. >> bret: there is where we begin. steve hill tonl, formthilton, a columnist, charles krauthammer. welcome back, steve. first before i get you on tax reform, your thoughts on 100 days, we're obsessed about it, but just your thoughts about president trump and this environment. >> i think that it is clearly a mixed picture. to put it mildly. i think that in my view, he
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squandered a really massive opportunity to be that different kind of leader, the real change maker that he was going to shake up washington and cut through party lines. i think the way he started really set him back. having said that, there are clear accomplishments. paul ryan listed them today at the press conference. there have been measures implemented to deregulate businesses and so on that will make a real difference. the most surprising thing in terms of the expectations is that actually he has done better on the national security front than on the domestic front. people were really concerned about his leadership on the international stage, how will he deal with leaders, and will he be this crazy person destabling the world. he has been surprisingly reassuring on the international front. >> bret: for leaders to get things across the finish line, it is a different challenge than being a businessman and dealing
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with things in your scope. >> well, you can say that again. the point about -- the real difference is about the fact that you've got to bring people with you. you can't just issue a degree and expect it to bring about the real change that i think this country needs. of course, he has been doing that to a certain extent with the executive orders, that's fine. but the really deep strurk rctu changes we need for the economy, issues that have been unaddressed in terms of decades, the way productivity and the economy has been flat, so that's why people's incomes aren't going up. these are big, long-term issues. actually, you need people to work together. that was the big hope that he would be different, less eye ideological, work with others in a pragmatic way. so far, we haven't seen enough of that. >> bret: i think the jury is still out. he has plans to do things. this tax reform, as it is laid out, your thoughts? >> i think there is a consensus
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that we need to have more simpler taxes and i think there is some groundwork laid for that that could be productive. when you look at this particular plan, there are some things that have very hard going. and hard going not just with democrats, obviously, democrats have been pretty much a posed to what president trump has proposed generally, but among republicans who are concerned about the deficit. for one thing, this is unless you really believe in dynamic scoring, this is a tax plan that looks like it would increase the deficit and have trouble meeting the standard of revenue neutrality that you need to use reconciliation as your device to get it passed. >> senate, 51 votes. charles. >> the most important element of this is the stripping away of deductions. in 1986, that was the great triumph of the tax reform, stripped away all these loopholes and pay backs, cutouts. essentially a form of corruption.
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and i think the appeal that a republican can make to democrats is this meets the fairness argument. because it is only the rich, it is the only the powerful who have the lawyers and accountants who can exploit these cutouts, and anybody can't use them. and i think by doing that, you're a -- that's the genius of the reagan tax reform. it is only an outline, so we don't flow know if it will end this way. you can probably cap the interest rate, because so many people demapend on it and the charity, which is very useful, because it is actually the only time the government weakens itself and strengthens civil society, it allows subsidizes your charitable giving to independent organizations, which is very healthy for the country, except for those who exceptions. it seems as if they want to strip away everything else. the problem with tax reform is
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whenever you do that, as we did in '86, over the next three decades, the barnicles accumulate with the new deductions and you've got to clean it away. if you can do that, if this tax reform can do that, that will be a triumph. >> bret: this is what simpson boles tried do, and the commission set up by barack obama, to incorporate not own entitlement reform but tax reform altogether. and they had a consensus, republicans and democrats. they just didn't have the administration. i mean, if this president reached out to simpson boles and said let's do the big thing, that would be changing. >> it would, and actually, going back to the point about the 100 days, the other big point is that the number one job that president trump was elected to do, i think we all agree, get the economy moving. more jobs. higher incomes. those are the real force behind his campaign and his election.
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it should have been the number one item on the agenda. that's what he should have started with. this planned to, i think on the face of it, is in a simple phrase great, but late. now he has less opportunity to get that collaboration on it, because of the way he began. the other point about the plan -- >> bret: did he have a push back from democrats in the beginning. it was a lot of russia and democrats weren't signing on to anything, so why not just go through what you want. >> well, i think what he should have wanted first is action to get the economy moving. and the key to that actually is business confidence. so that the decisions are made to invest to create jobs and that's why actually the really important part there for me is the corporate tax cut and one aspect of that, i think we need to focus on is the rate. there is a sort of tendency i think today to say it is just a negotiation. he wants 15, paul ryan wants 20, it doesn't matter. i actually heard paul ryan a few
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weeks ago saying it is just math. it really isn't. if you want that stimulus effect, it has to be dramatic. 20% doesn't actually put america in the international competitiveness ranking looking that favorable. but 15% really does. that will really give you that wish of confidence. for me, going back to the point of who benefits, 20% or higher, the real winners will be the already rich. if you really want to help working people, you've got to go for the 15% rate. >> bret: you have to figure out how to make it revenue neutral. as you look at the polls, the president's job performance, which is fox poll 1, 45% disapprove, 48%. if we can go to fox poll 8, the president's handling of a list of issues, isis, the economy, he has an approval above disapproval. foreign policy and taxes, health
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care, he is upside down. >> as steve was saying, it is a surprise he has done better on foreign policy. the team thatround him, which is earned some credibility. he has listened to them. he has changed positions or changed in big ways, and in nuance ways on foreign policy. that's an air aftrea of strengt him. >> bret: a big meeting on north korea at the white house, with all the u.s. senate, that's next. liberty mutual stood with us when a fire destroyed everything in our living room. we replaced it all without touching our savings. yeah, our insurance won't do that. no. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance it can seem like triggers pop up everywhere. when liberty stands with you™. luckily there's powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin.
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>> with every test kim jong-un moves to his stated goal and preemptive nuclear strike capability against american cities. he is not afraid to fail in
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public. all options are on the table. we want to bring kim jong-un to his senses, not to his knees. >> whether we want it or not, we have to be prepared. >> it is clear that the administration's intention to s to pursue sanctions as a way to increa increase sanctions on north korea, and to engage with china, because they're the most vital -- preemptive strike options were not presented. >> bret: senators coming out of the white house, after a classified briefing. all senators invited, a rare event. the briefers who presented the classified briefing, the secretary of state, national int intelligence and chairman of the joints chief of staff, and bipartisan senators came out of there saying they appreciated the forthright briefing. we're back with the panel. charles, it seems like it is moving forward and that a lot of eggs are in china's basket but
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also using other countries around the region to pressure china. >> in the end, the only pressure that will have an effect will be from china. in today's meeting, i'm not sure how substantive it was, but part of an orchestration, trying to show the world, particularly the chinese, we're drawing a line in the sand. we are not going to allow this. it is not going to happen today or tomorrow. it is not going to be a preemptive strike, but if this is supposed to happen around 2020, they are not going to be allowed to do it. i think our problem is that we're assuming we could mix apples and oranges. somehow if we dangle economic car range f carriage, they are not fundamental decisions. they are not going sell out what they see as their national security for a mess of porradge.
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i think ultimately, either putting back in place, or short range nuclear missiles that we had in south korea, and i think ultimately, we're going to have to declare that we support a japanese and south korea nuclear deterrent. that will get china's attention. that's the only thing i think that would make them support a pressure on the regime that will change their course. >> steve, we don't know what the president and chinese president talked about down in mar-a-lago, maybe what president trump agreed to. clearly he didn't call them manipulators of their currency after that meeting, but what gets china off the ball on this pressuring north korea on the issue? >> i agree with charles. it is a combination of, you know, transactional negotiation, and he has shown he is able to do that. president trump is able to do that. it is one of the things that i
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certainly said before the election, when people were questioning his abilities as a potential leader. you know what, a lot of this stuff we need dealt within the world is about negotiation. and he is someone who likes to think he is very good at it. that has been proven to be true in the case of china, but i think that's not enough. that does need to be something tangible and it is that really hard stuff that charles is talking about that really will make the difference. but altogether, if you look at what is going on here, two things to bear in mind. first of all, trump has been remarkably consistent on this. before the election, since being inaugurated, he has been from a consistent position. his team seems solid on it. it is a strong position. the other thing, a connection with the action in syria. it is all painting a picture of an administration that really is going to take threats seriously and is not going to be pushed around. to me, that's something that he projected as a candidate and is now delivering on. >> bret: one of the sticks, perhaps, is also the action in canada, with the trade action
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that they did while not a huge deal, china looking at that, and say he is serious about that too. >> he is willing to do hard things. there is a suspicious that it was a stunt today, taking the bus down pennsylvania avenue, it was a thing to have a photo op for the first 100 days. there a sense of a drum beat on north korea, and that the kind of -- the careful delicate approach that the past several administrations have taken is one that the trump administration is not going to take, that something -- they're going to take an aggressive approach and that raises the risk, but no one could argue that the past approaches have worked really well. >> bret: one lawmaker said today, the only positive thing he heard is that there is no evidence that the regime is suicidal. >> it is not. in fact, the reason it is doing all this, it thinks it will guarantee its own survival if it has a nuclear weapon that will deter an american invasion. that makes a lot of sense. this man is dangerous, but he is
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not crazy. >> bret: maybe, but he is -- he is not that crazy. >> well, the diagnosis i made at a distance, very low rates, kim jong do-un seems to be acting rationally. >> bret: that's it for the panel. what the speaker of the house, what he was laughing about today. we'll show you when we return.
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>> bret: finally, maybe it was an inside joke or just a case of the giggles. this morning, house speaker paul ryan was talking to reporters and was asked about progress with the white house on taxes. his own hand gesture and the answer just made him laugh. >> what we see this is progress being made, showing that we are moving, getting on the same pag page. wow. [laughs] yeah, right. progress. wow. [laughs] that was used very interesting. we see this as a good thing.
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