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want to mention this website was the best drink i ever had. very good, so good. >> what a way to end the show. see you tomorrow, guys. >> this is a fox news channel special presentation. donald trump day 100. now, neil cavuto. david: for donald trump, the pressure is on. what is he going to do and how it is he going to do it? he opted not to spend the night with journalists. instead of going to the white house correspondents junior dinner, the what first president not to do so, ronald reagan could argue he had just been shot so he couldn't make it to the big event, he instead will be at a big rally in harrisburg. we will look at that rally, what is at stake and it paved the way
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for the startling win, we will be hearing from homeland security secretary john kelly. rick perry and steve palmer, remember him? a new and novel way to find out where the money goes in washington and before we had money to various programs, let's find out where the money goes, a novel concept. and liberal leanings, what in the world the richest man has to say about all of that. keeping track on this 100 today of planned protests, concern about science and those -- are against science. among those who will be protesting on capitol hill, al gore, richard branson and actor leonardo dicaprio. that march starts this hour on capitol hill and goes to the white house. whether the president will be coming out to talk to them is anyone's guess but we will
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monitor that and the latest out of north korea. in case you didn't hear they fired another missile. it fails but this could have been pretty dangerous, we are getting indications the white house is concerned about things, the president has been warning something dire could happen if this keeps going on and the north korean leader, and the secretary of state on capitol hill, and the united nations urging stricter sanctions than the ones in place. the latest now, fox's correspondent and how the white house is planning a big day. >> the white house is not surprised by the north korean missile test or that it failed, the strategy going forward will be another round of sanctions
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against pyongyang next weekend continuing pressure that north korea's greatest ally, donald trump telling twitter north korea's disrespect, highly respected president when it launched so unsuccessfully a missile today, china is urging all countries to remain calm and exercise restraint but show of force by the us military is underway. carl vinson carrier strike group is sitting off the coast of the korean peninsula, in just a few hours after rex tillerson issued this stern warning to north korea at the united nations. >> for too long the international community has been reactive in addressing north korea. those days come to an end. failing to act on the most pressing issue in the world may bring catastrophic consequences. >> reporter: in addition to dealing with the north korean nuclear threat donald trump is
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going to spend his 100th day in office talking tough on one of the issues that helped get him here in the first place, praise and he will be doing it in one of the states that proved to be pivotal to his victory last november. he will be touring a tool manufacturing facility, building shovels since 1774. and two more executive orders on trade and manufacturing and will head to harrisburg, pennsylvania for a big rally to commemorate his 100 day mark and hear what he believes are his greatest accomplishment students taking office like getting neil gorsuch appointed to the supreme court and rebuilding relationships with world leaders like chinese president xi jinping. as you mentioned at the top of the hours his speech is scheduled to start at the same time as the white house correspondents dinner.
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neil: he relished that little dig. north korea testing another missile. it failed and they had more failures than successes but the fact they keep doing it in the face of a built-up fleet outside the korean peninsula, the department of homeland secretary john kelly talked to me a short time ago and saying the leader might be resistant to any overtures even from china and has to be watching, we have to do something now. take a look. >> on the march to get a missile that can hit the united states and no secret he is working hard to weapon eyes a nuclear device and when those two come together parts of our country are at grave risk. neil: is there a timeline you have, the president has? the chinese have, to do something? >> not to put words in his
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mouth, the administration, secretary of state and others, it is not in their interests at all to have a nuclear capable north korea. it is in their interest to have hostilities, the greatest fear is you have a mass migration out of the peninsula and north korea. neil: the north korean leader continues testing these missiles and eventually his critics say he will get it right. tony shafer joins us out of washington dc. what is interesting about kim jung un, even if you accept the possibility the chinese are doing their best to to rein him in he either ignores them or they are not doing that and even in the face of tougher sanctions, much stricter sanctions, more sweeping sanctions tillerson is arguing at the united nations he continues to do it.
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what rains this guy in? >> the chinese have to do something more severe. we talked about a number of things we can do and one thing to leverage and encourage the chinese is say we have treaty obligations we have to live up to regarding japanese and south koreans and nothing will get the chinese more motivated more quickly than to start talking about giving nuclear weapons to japan. it may sound extraordinary but donald trump has considered extraordinary things. the japanese have the right to self-defense. if they are hit by a nuclear weapon they have a right to retaliate. the chinese are hugely afraid of a nuclear japan. neil: what if he is impervious to that, just a nut and no matter what china does or what we do economically, he is not going to change and the dirty little secret is china can't
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rein them in? >> china can turn the lights out in pyongyang. that will get your attention quicker. with that is what we are talking about, fundamentally, and umbilical cords from the chinese, let's be clear on this, actual missile tests, missiles that had been recovered from the failed nuclear tests, and north koreans could not do what they do in any aspect if it wasn't for a level of complicity or essentially ignoring the issues from the north korean by the chinese so that can't go on. the chinese will get a deluge as john kelly said, refugees will go west into china, and -- neil: you would think the chinese would respond. only reason they are doing anything right now has to do with the fact that the president is holding off on calling them cheaters and the stuff they
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said. they could be stringing him along. do we have a timetable on this so that we can say you have to deliver? >> one of the articles, donald trump is willing to, quote, break the rules of diplomacy. he has the ability to time things for his own purposes. he doesn't follow other people's timelines. i don't think he lays one out. this is one of those things, for example nafta, he announced he is pulling out and people come to him to try to get him to reconciliation. it is about our taking action to tell the chinese we are serious and doing things they don't react in such a way to do so. he is willing to leverage things and do things other presidents are not willing to do going to the clinton administration. neil: you can educate me. what is a provocative act on our part, that if we try to shoot
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down a missile, it is not deemed an act of war if it is shot over water. i didn't understand the logic of that. the idea being we would not be so in your face even though that act alone would be by the chinese -- what is your distinction? >> there are trajectories. going on to tactics, we monitor closely any watch, the north koreans are provocative involving high launches, trying to get orbital payloads into what we call a polar orbit and trying to say we don't have good protection. they are trying to plug a hole. what they said, we are monitoring, what is going to hit, i was told by sources, very
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reliable, any missiles they fire, some fail like this one, anyone we think will hit something important will be destroyed and i have been told we have capabilities to do that. the clear message is if they fire a missile that will hit something that is critical. and entire he the antagonistic. neil: the good thing about kennedy as she gave up a day she could be part of these environmental protests on capitol hill to join us. very happy to see that. the contraction we are seeing in
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the economy. i knew we were expecting a week first quarter report. i didn't know it would be this week but what went on? >> week is no way to destroy it, this is feeble, anemic. the economy growing at 0.7% in the first three months of this year, the slowest pace we have seen in three years. you have to hook this up to the blood truck for transfusion. what is the transfusion? that would be tax cuts. that would stimulate the economy and turn that into realism to spend money again but the president's program agenda has helped push markets up during his first 100 days in office and it is interesting to see all the markets hitting record highs during this period. look at that, 9.2 would be great for some big winners this weekend during this period boeing, the president met with the ceo three times and half a dozen phone conversations and the hotspots, may not be good
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news for our foreign policy but the united healthcare, one of the stock performers in that sector, 10.2% and infrastructure spending could be part of the tax reform plan, up to $1 trillion, folks who buy caterpillar stocks like is that 9.5%, how does it stack up with recent presidentss in their first 100 days and only george hw bush said it better. 80% growth in the first hundred days but we don't have to limit it in that timeline. no one did better than donald trump if you look at stocks from election day through day 100. a whopping 14.2%, his predecessor dropped in the same time 15%, unbelievable numbers. neil: thank you for sending your regrets on that rally to join us, that rally i am referring
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to, environmentalist gathering in washington dc to -- we are going to be looking at that, how the president needs congress to help him out big time after this. it' ke i'm in the office with you, even though i'm here. it's almost like the virtual reality of business communications. no, it's reality. intuitive one touch video conferencing is a reality. and now it's included at no additional cost with vonage business. see why 3,000 companies a month are switching to vonage. business grade. people friendly.
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>> the president having a heckuva time roping in his own party, this is how they settle differences in macedonia and something the president might want to consider. this is going on in macedonia. if they don't find it is producing constructive results they beat the crap i'm each other. no one was severely hurt. i don't know of any legislation but it is raising the prospect that the macedonia way in washington. i will get email on that, that
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is impolitic. and karl rove. waves are settling differences. and political niceties. >> the president of the united states, allies and friends. and franklin roosevelt enormously powerful, enormously popular, huge democratic
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majorities failed to get his scheme to pack the supreme court in 1938. >> a lot of other stuff. even then he did get it through the way he wanted or through the time he wanted to do it. donald trump faces special difficulties in the opposition is not the typical disagreements over policies but animated by anger over the election. neil: the first to see on this. the freedom caucus. argued on some principal level lost on you when it would be the bigger prize of coming up with alternative by anyone, would at least be better when it was replacing. having said that back at it again. whatever concessions are made to the freedom caucus ticks off moderates.
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where did this go? >> my disagreement is not with principles. you have libertarians who are principled libertarians who won't vote for anything that expands government. most were conservatives looking for an excuse to vote no and that is what they offered a. i am not convinced, they did a smart thing, the freedom caucus did, picking the three chairman of the tuesday group, picked up one of them, negotiated with him, not clear he had any authority to negotiate on behalf of the moderates. and it is more about blame shifting, they were under pressure for having the affordable care act. my hope is they can arrive at something that allows the process to go forward and the house bill, the conference committee. >> they have to get it done
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before tax cuts. >> things can move in tandem as long as it get out of the house, the house ways and means committee beginning on the tax cut and the senate is grappling with healthcare, the house could be working on tax reform. the problem will ultimately be in the senate the same committee, senate finance committee does the work on healthcare and all the work on the tax cut and in the house the house ways and means committee is where the tax cut under the constitution needs to emerge. neil: good seeing you again. the president is getting ready for a big rally in pennsylvania. he opted out of the white house correspondents dinner, the first president to do so since ronald reagan. he had his reasons. we have that after this. y282uy ywty from my sweet dreams?
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neil: to washington to show you a protest getting started here on capitol hill by the us capital, it will make its way to the white house, these are those supporting in the climate march as they are calling it, the march for science as others are calling it, global warming, climate change, science, we have to do something about a warming earth. they are targeting republicans who dominate capitol hill and the president himself, no doubt hearings him shortly outside the white house in the next hour, they will be down there. leonardo dicaprio, al gore and richard branson, keep you posted on fat. the president opting out of the
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white house correspondents dinner. the first since ronald reagan in 1981. ronald reagan had good reason, he had been shot. in this case the president has more important things to do like an audience in harrisburg, pennsylvania, a state where his victory turned the tide and produce one of the most shocking upset and political history. on the short list, declined the opportunity to be the president's labor secretary. very good to have you. >> good to be with you. neil: why did you declined that post? >> i can help the president a lot more where i am in congress. he needs some loyal soldiers who will fight for him and i don't think it was a bad decision. the most important thing as we get his agenda across the finish line and he needs loyal folks who are willing to get in the trenches and fight for him.
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neil: given the fact the replacement candidates holding on to republican seats and you were wise to do so but let me ask a little bit about what is at stake, the president addressing his harrisburg audience, many of his critics have said he is in constant campaign mode and got that base, he has got to reach out more. >> in gettysburg, low and behold he is coming back to say thank you on the hundred state to talk to those blue-collar workers, democrats, republicans, steelworkers, coal miners, second amendment lovers who donald trump represents, the critics, pretty amazing watching this last week the critics saying what he hasn't accomplished, tonight in harrisburg donald trump walked
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on water, headlines would be tomorrow he can't swim. the american people have had it with the critics. neil: he greased the skin for that. i know what you are saying. in that gettysburg speech he did outline an aggressive timetable and a plan for his first 100 days, he is trying to minimize that but he did build up expectations himself. >> i don't think it is what he has done that is the issue but what has congress been able to accomplish in 100 days to help him get his agenda, he is -- 28 pieces of legislation, 25 executive orders, more than any president in half a century. we talk about the keystone pipeline, neil gorsuch, the illegal immigration crossings on the southern border down 73%.
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neil: absolutely right -- reason your leadership for not delivering more goods? >> it is a two fold problem, democrats -- of resistance no matter what donald trump does a won't pick up one finger to help him and we have a republican party that has got to get it together so this president can continue to grow the economy. we have to get healthcare done, tax reform done in the infrastructure plan across the border line and see this economy explode and congress has to do it and democrats have to take that blame as well. neil: you mentioned healthcare and the tax-cut and that is the way it has got to be done and got to do the healthcare. >> i am not one of those that has to be dominoes because we don't get healthcare done, if you believe that the rest of the
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dominoes go down with it, tax reform and infrastructure so i don't believe that. neil: thank you very much. to the congressman's point for -- very important, a federal reserve trying to work the balance sheet, if anything high-grade so you lose stimulus from the federal reserve. the only game in town is tax cuts, stuart varney says that is the game to be focused on.
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>> we told you with kennedy, we is out of as anemic as we get. the stimulus business, the tax-cut, stuart varney is all
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over this relentlessly, joined me right now. now the argument is we got to get the healthcare thing done first. whatever concessions are made on the part of the freedom caucus to get their votes, take off moderate so they are not making progress. we heard from a congressman saying get to a point where that gets to be divisive, move on to tax cuts. >> i don't care. i think the republican party has do come together and get going with tax cuts. heather: drop the healthcare fixation. >> if you can't unite around that walk away from it. there is far more important stuff on the table and that is getting the country moving again. the president has inherited an economic mess, 0.7% growth, the economy is dead in the water, he has got to clean it up. how do you clean it up? middle-class tax cut and that is
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exactly what he has proposed. the 15% maximum tax rate on small business, the returns, extremely important from 35% top rate to 15% top rate for people creating jobs and creating the business environment of america. give it to them. get that done. the president is telling the republican party this is it, this is base line. get the tax-cut for small business and anybody else get that tax-cut. heather: it is a boon to the rich, you got to pay for these tax cuts. where do you stand on paying for them? >> it is not a giveaway to the rich, it is anything but. i say get on and cut taxes. it would be nice if you could pay for it but i don't think you can pay for it without taking stimulus out of the economy just do it. neil: diehards in the party say if you make the deficit worse
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before it gets better you are violating a central party treatise that we will not to what barack obama did. >> turn to the democrats and say they won't do this, you want reelection. get on board with me, or you tell me what is your growth plan? what is the democrats growth plan? i don't know. do you know? neil: they are worried about deficits and debt. >> from $10 trillion to $20 trillion and worried about anymore debt. neil: having said that i was reading the new york post and we were chatting about it, his view is it would be nice to your point to pay for tax cuts when you think about borrowing money, 1% or 2% to go into more debt to get the tax cuts and companies invest that money and get 5% to
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10%, we as americans are getting 5% to 10% return on investment which was wonderful when barack obama did that. but apparently bad when we do it. >> an interesting argument, we are going to run up the deficit. neil: the revenue back. >> tax cuts, putting money out there the middle class raises the growth prospects down the road, raises revenue to the treasury down the road like ronald reagan did. neil: he is not as steep in pushing like ronald reagan for his and maybe it is a lot on his plate and if he were banging head, taking names, the district and details of every representative, democrat and republican like ronald reagan was doing, he could essentially be going over the heads of the
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establishment sites who block them. >> he is not that kind of president, ronald reagan was that kind of president, it was ronald reagan, you knew i was going to get this in, ronald reagan's tax cuts allowed me to move up into america's middle-class. i was married, two children, one on the way, ronald reagan cuts taxes, i had a good job and that gave me a shot in the arm that allowed me to move up the food chain. he did it. tax cuts. neil: we can blame him. you are a big star today because of ronald reagan. >> can i get a word in his wife? this is my personal story, would you like to do that for this generation of youngsters? those just starting out, they climb the food chain like i did and you did. neil: this boon to the rich, you
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keep hearing on your show, on this subject, how do you counter that argument? >> it is not a giveaway to the rich, rich people will benefit, but they only get the top rate cut 35% to 35%, nice cut. neil: paying the lions share of taxes. >> they will no longer deduct state income tax payments. that is huge for rich people. paying a fortune in state income taxes. you can -- neil: can you? >> yes, get this done. the centerpiece is the middle-class tax cut. it is all-important. my out of time? >> not sure where you stand on the tax cuts, we will try again. stuart varney. nice people in this business. i have known them for many
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years. it is funny. he is inconsistent on this issue, greedy little capitalist. we are going to be hearing from the secretary of energy on all of this attention and other ways to boost the economy and getting very little coverage, the president is doing executive orders this way. click click (male announcer) hit escape with great deals on great gear. like our huge selection of shorts for the whole family. only at bass pro shops.
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neil: you think the media is fair to the president. >> not particularly. we know going into it the media will not be relatively fair. neil: rick perry the energy secretary pointing out to me incentivizing the economy and securing more jobs by reining in
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the executive orders of your predecessor as the president did this week by expanding and taking away regulations that are preventing more drilling and protected areas is part of the equation but it doesn't get a lot of essentially what is happening on the energy front, dramatically changing the prospect of jobs and saying nothing of opening a pipeline that had been shut down. that was then, this is now, a view of energy related jobs. the washington examiner's sarah westwood, democratic strategist and former state senator and donald trump's former campaign outreach member. for now let me go to you and this idea we focus on tax cuts and incentives and that sort of thing, we lose sight of the facts when the president rolled back some of these old regulations and executive orders
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of his predecessor preventing pipeline -- that is incentivizing the economy. >> basically donald trump, when he ran for office said that he was going to roll back these job killing regulations that were strangling our economy and i think it is amazing he has followed through on sat, that is the thing about a politician, he is concerned about the jobs, the economy, concerned about why people voted him into office and he is following through on what he said. martha: he is taking off a lot of environmentalists, many are rallying in washington and going to descend on the white house to let their displeasure be known. the president doesn't care, environmentalists have never been in his corner, should he be more concerned? >> obviously donald trump's
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priority is stimulating the economy and i have a message to my fellow democrats and it is possible to be balanced and rain in regulation but at the same time not destroy the environment, we have to be pragmatic about that. one more march won't change anything. i'm fired up about this. if we want to be successful and make an impact instead of putting $500 to come to washington dc for a weekend, create a super pac and run ads and do something tangible as opposed to listening to ourselves talk. if we want to make an impact, a strategy. neil: when you look at this, the 100day in office, the president had a lot of difficulty with his own party getting legislation through would not be the first
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to experience that, jimmy carter did, that is not particularly new but is worrisome, into more roadblocks with republicans than democrats. >> congress helps the trump agenda hostage, we haven't seen movement on health care. that has been much more slow than donald trump would like. he is disappointed, tax reform is getting off the ground, he is finding that is difficult to address these factions in the republican party that were papered over when he won, forgot the republican party had these divisions with moderate conservatives. and those factions are coming into sharp relief when the republican party is trying to
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pass legislation that required those different factors to come together, hard for someone like donald trump who doesn't subscribe to anyone ideology to bring them together. neil: he will go to his base in pennsylvania and harrisburg, he doesn't seem to want -- can't reach outside that base. keeping him in your corner, is he, when you keep preaching to the same choir are you ever going to hear a different tune? >> donald trump is doing a plus working at white house, hit the ground running with executive orders, he hit the ground running with having a ceo and people of big companies to invest billions into the nation and he has made it clear that the people are his top priority. when those jobs come into play in february, 228,000 new jobs
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came into the economy total 600,000 at this point, what will happen is if he continues to let his base no, let us know if it he is in there to do what we asked him to do, if those executive orders, regulations and rollbacks and stimulus putting into the nation begins to come up, rise with the tide, he will have more than the base he currently has, people will drop to him because he is a builder and doing what he said he would do. congress is doing f work while our president is doing a plus work so i hope they will get behind him like never before, we have a builder in office, let's work. neil: i want to keep you posted. the president having a big dinner tonight with journalists.
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>> the president will be in harrisburg, pennsylvania reaching out in a state that was the first sign there was an upset in the making election night. he will be skipping out on something every president since ronald reagan in 1981, he had a good excuse, have been a part of, the white house correspondents dinner. ronald reagan was shot a month before so that was a good excuse not to be attending. i don't know how joe piscopo -- he would probably go to that dinner but he joined me now.
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what do you think of the president saying this big affair tonight, i am not going. >> the press corps, i love these journalists, it is great what the president is doing, right in their face, going right to the people, the people that got him elected. this is huge. if i may, if you saw when in 2011, donald trump was there, barack obama, did you see the reaction of donald from? neil: that is when he decided. >> he is not even italian. he is going after them but watch this, italian blood, he was seizing. >> the president was nonstop. >> you know -- >> that i don't understand. for the good of the people of
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this state. they know this better than the politicians. and in pennsylvania -- >> in new jersey as well. do you ever worry given the president's week poll numbers populist wave is going to go against you. the novelty of someone like you being governor is hurt by the fact the president's approval numbers are so low? >> they always say that. utilizing -- neil: lost new jersey by a lot. >> he got 42% or something like that. you will be surprised how many supporters there are in jersey but your point is well taken. neil: does that hurt? >> as an independent it helps but what journalists did go
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after -- you are a trump guy. stop with that. got to put the divide aside, the 100 day thing, in our first hundred days in our jobs -- neil: the president started it am outlining a 100 day agenda, might not like it now but he did. >> what if they gave me 90 days? >> the original contract, 90 days. i am wondering, bo deitl, republicans were looking at putting them on their tickets. and looking in france where the populist candidate -- so so. i am wondering if the pendulum is shifting. >> i don't think we have seen the populist movement yet. politicians -- neil: the poor performance,
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maverick candidate in the beginning. >> went back and forth, came out of the house and only kidding, just a little joke. for the good of the people. neil: a lot more. as that instantly gives you stock prices, earnings, and dividends... an equity summary score that consolidates the stock ratings of top analysts into a single score... and $4.95 online u.s. equity trades... you realize the smartest investing idea, isn't just what you invest in, but who you invest with. ♪
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that was the case with iran, they had the facilities hitting all over the country, but update me. >> yeah, i think these are mobile systems, but they require a hard surface to be
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able to launch from. there are limited hard surfaces in north korea to be able to launch these types of missiles and we're aware of those locations and again, even though it's a mobile system, it still requires a hard reinforced structure, surface. >> what if we told the chinese, all right, the next time this guy launches a missile, we're going to shoot it down and we're giving you fair warning, but worried that these things keep happening and one of these times, either accidentally or districtly he's going to get lucky and we don't want that. now, we did the same when it came to the russians in syria, a tomahawk missile strike, we gave them a heads up. the russians were unhappy, but the strike went on. what do you think the chinese would do? >> well, i think the chinese would say we shouldn't do it and a lot of our military planners would say, listen, we have to be prepared for a response from the north korean dictator. his artillery is to punish the demilitarized zones where the
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u.s. forces are currently at and that's an issue. what does he do if we do something like that and who is to say we're not doing that with cyber attacks now and that's why the missiles are failing so close after launch. >> the chinese are trying to do something because the president has held off calling them currency manipulatelators or cheaters and holding off on getting tough with them economically, but i haven't heard whether we have a deadline on the chinese to come up or do something here. so, how sure are we that they're not-- that beijing is not stinging us along? >> i think based on what we heard from secretary tillerson and what we heard from the president on the mental state of kim jong-un, i think that is china influencing the administration saying, listen, we need time to be able to do this, but it doesn't help with u.s. senators are calling him a fat kid or people are implying that he's crazy because he is crazy and he might do something, so china is--
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>> i think the fat kid thing is a bit-- >> some people can get away with it. thank you very much. >> very good. appreciate it, thank you. >> all right, it's always the fat thing. and meantime, we've got steve forbes, charlie gasperino here and we're focusing on the tax cuts and if you think about it, that's as i said the only game in town for stimulus here. and given the anemic run-up in economic activity we've seen, steve forbes, that's what they've got to do. but there's a battle now royale among republicans, do you pay for them? lo and behold, i'm reading a column by tyler cowan, so what if you don't pay for them. you're borrowing the money to get them at 1 or 2% and companies are going to reinvest that money and make 5 or 10% and we as taxpayers do okay. what do you say to that? >> well, the great tax cutters like john kennedy and ronald reagan never fell into that trap and the only way you're
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going to get in control of the finances is by a vigorous economy and that will give you more revenue. >> the rates were much higher levels then. >> the rates were higher and circumstances are different. low tax rates always stimulate economic growth. more than the crazy models from congress ever estimate. those models are about as good as a daily horoscope in the newspaper, absolutely worthness and they assume the tax cuts raise growth to 2 1/2, 3%, we know from experiences goes to 4 or 5% and that gives you extra revenue, it's the gift that keeps giving. it gives you future stimulus. >> you know, charlie, you and i chatted about this, the idea that the person has got to get personally engaged. ronald reagan was personally engaged. john kennedy to steve's point was personally engaged. and tragically after his assassination, but he was very much part of that process in trying to win over, forget about his, you know,
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republicans, but his own party. but what do you make of that, that this president is not and that he was not intimately involved in the health care thing, but he's got to be on the taxes? >> well, i think his -- in some ways, his administration is on the line. i don't want to be too dramatic about this, but if he doesn't-- he didn't get health care and looks like that's being delayed indefinitely and if he does not get a good tax plan, something more, you know, something more than marginal, you know, like we have to get the corporate tax rate down to about 20% or else the markets are going to sell off pretty severely. if he doesn't get those, his first year in office will be complete failure. i mean, that's the bottom line. those are two of the signature things he ran on, including building a wall, which looks like it may not happen either. and i mean, this is big stuff. so he has to put his administration on the line and he has to put his reputation on the line and he's got to fight for this. the question is, does he know how to fight for this in a way
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that's effective in washington? he did not show that type of ability when he was fighting for the health care reform. he was actually, be you -- you know, he didn't know much details on the freedom caucus. . >> i'm give him a pass on that one, he kind of thought the leadership had a handle on that one. and john kennedy thought that the bay of pigs, the general had to be right and it was cooked up under his predecessor, a decorated general and he deferred to them. it's a stretch, i grant you, but having said that, steve, i do agree with this response, he's got to get the tax cuts, he doesn't, it's over. >> i think you've got the real lowdown on this, the fact that he went for a big tax cut, he was under a lot of pressure to scale it back and get a quick victory, declare it and move on. the fact that he went on the line and put a massive tax cut out there, a huge tax cut shows. >> can they get this through simple budget reconciliation? some are saying that the corporate tax cut alone, the
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revenues, from that, a few years goes beyond the 10-year window, you know what i mean? >> the 10-year window is a false they think, nothing is permanent in washington. the '86 tax cut is supposed to be permanent. >> people are going to fight over the legality of it, so-- >> if you go have a deficit projected beyond ten years, you can only have the tax cuts. >> right, right. >> every ten years, so good, take ten years, if you do well in the congressional elections next year and take the expire date off and make it permanent. nothing is permanent in washington. the '86 tax cuts done in in four years and kennedy's tax cuts done in by lyndon johnson. and get it any way you can, as big as you can, get the economy moving and he'll be fine. >> but, charlie, already a lot of people are moaning about it, states like new jersey, new york, california, if you can't write off the taxes, then what's going to happen to this thing. all of this was predictable, i
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think. do you think it's going to run into an unexpected buzz saw from republicans? there's going to be some headwinds to sell this thing. i like the tax plan, it's simpler that he's cutting out-- i live in new york so it's going to hit me without being able to deduct my state and local taxes as we get crushed here. >>, but you're a patriot. >> i know, i and here is the thing, neil, the economy is barely growing. and that hurts this country. this country is in crisis, neil. and, in some parts of upstate new york, there are hollowed out cities and there are no jobs. the only game in town is to cut taxes, i'm sorry. >> and that's your argument, right, steve? >> absolutely. and let's worry about future deficits, you know. investments take time, when trump announces a building, takes years to build the building. so this thing has got to be done overnight. ridiculous, republicans are killing themselves. >> thank you, very very much. >> anytime, neil. >> the white house is on appeal
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>> all right. i want to take you live right now to newport news, where the vice-president of the united states is going to be christening the u.s.s. indiana, it's a nuclear attack submarine and occurred ours after we heard the north koreans fired off another missile. it was deemed a failure, but there's no accident in timing here. the message we are sending to the north koreans is that we are going to be dealing with them and that was something, of course, from rex tillerson on down, the administration does plan to keep applying the pressure on the north koreans to cool it on the provocative behavior. of course, indiana and the u.s.s. indiana, the
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vice-president was the governor from that fine state. we'll keep an eye on that. in the meantime, the white house vowing right now to appeal a judge's ruling to halt funding for, well, sanctuary cities. the administration says if you don't honor the law, we are going to go after you on that very subject by denying you federal funds that would be your city anyway. and homeland security can't understand why anyone would oppose that. >> it is unconceivable to me that you would ignore the law and just as inconceivable that an elected official would not want a criminal taken out of the community for free by the federal government, taken out of the community after they've paid their debt to see si-- society, taken out of the community and sent home, i can't understand it. neil: the general is not a lawyer, and the general is not a lawyer, but pam is.
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that's one thing i don't understand. the law is the law, sanctuary cities are by themselves and by definition illegal. and you have a judge quashing an attempt on the part of the president, legally challenging what is a legal, you know, case and saying, no, no, you can't affect the funding. >> the executive order, it calls for states and jurisdictions to uphold existing law, period. enforcing law that courts should be doing under the constitution of the united states of america. what judge william morelick did, he was premature, frankly in his ruling, he said this could cause potential harm, this could hurt people in san francisco and santa clara, but that's premature. in legal terms, it's not ripe
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yet and frankly he doesn't have standing, i don't believe at all, to do what he did legally. neil: now, the president is trying to take the step here that if you are harboring illegals and you're making it difficult to find or, ice agents, for example, to find illegals, you should not be getting federal aid, but it's fine tuned to the point of not all federal aid, but aid that has to directly or indirectly do with these matters. so, he could have been much more sweeping in that directive, but was not, right? >> neil, his executive order was legal, it was proper, and as general secretary kelly said, it was completely appropriate and called for. this is about law and order. i'm a career prosecutor. that's what the president of the united states was doing when signing the executive order and again, i firmly believe that judge orlick acted prematurely and it wasn't right
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and he essentially undid our immigration law. this one man unilaterally undid years and years of law and policy in the united states by doing that. neil: all right. pam bondi, thank you very much. i want to go to the congressman who joins us from san francisco. good to have you back with us. on this issue first, i mean, it does seem odd to me, but again, i'm not a lawyer, but what is your take on this? >> well, first of all, no sanctuary city that i'm aware of in california or elsewhere would harbor a known criminal. this is not about known criminals. clearly they are going to be passed over to the federal government for deportation or whatever other might-- whatever else might be appropriate. it's not about the criminals. and that's routine process here in california and other cities. if there's a criminal involved, they're going to be turned over. it's the other people.
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let me give you an example. i represent a couple of air force bases. a sergeant and his wife deployed overseas multiple times, they were supposed to come back to the united states. there was an error in her paper work. her passport was taken away and she was deported to mexico after 18 years of serving this nation as a spouse of a sergeant in the united states air force. so, this thing is way, way beyond criminals. this is about how we treat men and women that are in our society who are serving in our owe site, working in our society. neil: and imagine more the exception than the rule, are they not? >> it's becoming the rule. it's becoming common and this is a terrible example of a wife who served for 18 years alongside her husband, three children, the children are here in the united states, she's deported. it is a horrible situation and it is not unique. neil: when we have sanctuary
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cities that knowingly harbor those who are here illegally and they brag about it and resist outside sources coming in and at least find them. that's protecting illegals and that, to be simplistic about it, is illegal. >> well, if you take back one step. there are probably well over 10 million men and women, not just mexican, but many, many ethnic groups from many countries around the world who do not have proper papers in the united states and you could use the word illegal. are you going to go after each and every one of them? most of them have families and-- >> but in the cities that are going to the added, bragging about that they're sanctuary cities and harbor illegals in their midst. that's different. saying you're conducting an illegal activity and it's not what you're saying like a raid
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out of nowhere, but saying, yes, we have illegals in our midst and make it as difficult as possible to find them and whine if you don't get aid as a result because you're breaking the law. >> is it then your intention to deport all 10 million because they're illegal. is that the intention? are we talking about breaking up families, leaving children behind? is that what we really want to do? i don't think so. neil: so you would be pro keeping a haven for illegals, which is a sanctuary city. >> no, that's not at all what i'm saying, i'm saying the sanctuary cities. neil: that is what your satisfy i go. >> trying to protect our communities. neil: well, you protect-- are you doing anything to protect the legal taxpayers? >> you're taking this to a different place, neil. wait a second. the immigration laws don't work. we need a comprehensive reform of immigration laws. neil: we will look at that, i do want to look at that, time is tight and i want to have you back.
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>> all right. certainly, the stock market is up big time, since donald trump was elected. we'll go right through some of the examples, if you look at his first 100 days and go back to the first date that he was elected president, stocks have been on a tear up 14%, almost 15%. billionaires have gotten to be bigger billionaires and well, it's been the wind at his back. and kennedy on fox business network, and jonas max ferris and last but not least, the good professor brian brenberg, the kings college of economics and business brainiac professor. the run-up that the president enjoyed, and i think it's on optimism that we'll get tax cuts. what if we don't. >> if we don't you'll have a
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problem here. they're baking in the future and present valuation and that's what the stock markets do. they're willing to expect and believe what he says he's going to do he's going to could. that's an interesting contrast by the way to main street. if you look at the economic numbers the past 100 days they haven't been particularly good. we saw gdp growth come in at .7% awful, march jobs number 98,000. awful. consumer spending poor, retail poor. and business confidence, investor confidence is up. and investors are acting on it. either consumers are going to catch up or investors or going to take a hit because this stuff isn't going to happen. neil: the president is having more difficulty with his own party. >> and the democrats never want the majority again, it's so much more fun to be the opposition team. and it's interesting because i see this like a workout plan that you haven't quite started
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and that's what the market is. the market is that optimism you have on january 1st that you're going to get the best shape of your life by bikini season and you haven't gotten on the treadmill or seen the scale. and that's the hope and joy many want to feel and actually having money in your pocket to go and spend. so, we're all a bunch of corpulent gluttons. if the president can get it through congress and everybody can see the money in the bank account. they want to spend the money. neil: and by the way, i find that analogy offensive. [laughter] >> one of the things i wonder, i just think that now we're having this debate, you've got to pay for tax cuts. whether you do or not, i think that between this and then, wait a minute, you can't write off your state and local taxes, they're already planting the seeds for what could be disappointment and given the fight over health care and how that got to be far dicier than
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i thought it would be with republicans running the hill, who is to say that the tax cuts don't suffer the same fate and what would have to change? >> they would definitely have to change, they look like they're facing-- committing rumors of little things being taken away. people don't want to hear about the 401(k) not happening and losing the deduction that a lot of people, middle and upper class are taking advantage of to make way for a lower tax rate for llc's, too complicated and too many people want these. they tried the stuff before and want today get rid of the home interest deduction. ese are re simplify. when it comes down to it, they are not passable, even if everybody was a republican in congress. neil: and see that's getting crazy and professor, what bothers me, if you're going net-net way ahead and allowing for the changes in deductions ahead, why wouldn't you take it, and i just think that we're getting so caught up in the weeds that we're losing sight of the advantages of the general aggregate tax. >> that's why it's going to
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happen. we have precedent for doing this. it wasn't that long ago that we got tax cuts through under george w. bush. they can find a way to do this. >> it's not going to be tax reform. the promise was we're going to redo the taxes and 1986 kind of stuff. neil: that can't happen. >> they threw a lot of stuff on the table and people aren't going to be happy about deductions. you're going to get a tax cut. neil: what if it's not a big one? if it's not a big one, it's marginal and-- >> i always people need to see, whoa, this is substantial. >> think about that, that's going to have an impact on the markets. a impact on consumer confidence and the fed is looking to raise interest rates. you've got a trifecta that could be continuously problematic. and you don't get a mulligan on every issue that he's probably going to with health care. neil: got to be involved. >> this has to be laser focused, they have to define what they're doing and execute it like president reagan did. >>'s got to sell big.
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what it's not big. big is how you sell it here. so, if corporate tax cut of 15%, that is big. even if it's 20, but you've got to help people understand why a corporate tax cut helps individuals not just businesses. neil: jonas, does it have to be paid for? in the end does it have to be paid for? >> to pass, look, george bush didn't take away tax cuts and that's why it passed. the problem we're into, and kennedy's quick thing about-- we bought the treadmill, that's the problem. that's when interest rates went up in anticipation of the economy getting tax cuts, so it's worse than merely not exercising. you laid out money now and we're seeing that drag from the higher rates, the housing market and car sales. neil: enough with the exercising. all right. i want to thank you all very, very much. i want you to look at something, donald trump, abraham lincoln. now, if you've stopped laughing here, some of you scynics out there. i'm going to make a connection that will stun you after this.
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>> all right. 33 minutes p after the hour, looking at a president in his 100th day and a busy day. and what the president plans to do on this special day. >> hey, neil, president trump is planning to spend his 100th day in office talking tough on one of the issues, and in one of the states that proves to be pivotal to his victory. pennsylvania. he's going to be touring a tool factory that's been manufacturing shovels since 1774. and while there, he's expected to sign two more executive orders on trade and manufacturing, and then, president trump will head to harrisburg, pennsylvania for a big rally to commemorate his 100 day mark and look at what are his greatest accomplishments since taking office and the preview in what he expects to hear in his weekly address. listen.
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>> the first 100 days of my administration has been just about the most successful in our country's history. most importantly, we're bringing back jobs. you asked the people of michigan, you ask the people are ohio, you can ask the people of pennsylvania, see what he is happening. see the car companies come roaring back in. they don't want to leave. they want to stay here. >> but as president trump takes off on this victory lap, he's also dealing with this growing crisis on the korean peninsula. north korea test firing another ballistic missile, the third this month after secretary of state rex tillerson called for more sanctions against pyongyang at the united nations. president trump responded by referencing the growing risk between north korea and main ally on twitter said, north korea disrespected the wishes of china and its highly respected president when it launched so unsuccessfully a missile today. bad. so the trump administration trying to put a lot of pressure
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on china, all while the carl vincent carrier strike groups sits and wait just off the coast of korean peninsula. neil, it arrived just hours after north korea test fired that ballistic missile. neil: all right, thank you very, very much. generally, i don't know how the president comes to the conclusion he's had the most successful 100 days of any u.s. president. i might quibble with that a little bit here, i don't know whether larry sabado would view it. but i know that presidents with dicey hirs -- first 100 days. president lincoln, had the war that followed, but he's deemed one of our more successful presidents. what are you make making about this president's talking about his first 100 days being the most prolific.
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>> neil, he's a salesman. he's overselling in this case. he's a salesman. look, the first 100 days is overdone. now that, although it's really for us, neil. it's for the media and analysts, what we have talked about for the last month. neil: it's funny you should say about that, because we're working on a 200 day, i don't want to give away our graphic secrets here. but having said that and i understand, but he contributed to it in a way, larry, by in gettysburg looking at an aggressive 100 day plan, speaking of abraham lincoln. so he kind of fed the beast. what do you make of that? >> sure, he used it when it could have been of help to him at election time and after the election kept referring to it pushing to get things done. as you and i have covered many times, there are, the over
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1461. only 100 have passed out of 1,461. you mentioned lyincollincoln, al mention george w. bush. what was his president abocy ab 9/11. and the president's august 7th is 200th day. so regardless what happens i'll be drinking heavily august 7th, my birthday. look, it's overdone. neil: the way that presidents start and i understand and you had said a president wants to put a spin on this. god knows those who don't like him are doing the opposite. that's his right. i think that so much depends on this president, the wild vagaries and north korea and there are promises and he's got
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to deliver the goods on those, right? >> sure, and he's got a republican senate and house although just about everybody has realized now, as in life and in politics, your problems come from your friends, not your enemies, or at least you expect the ones from your enemies, but don't expect so many from your friends. neil: in recent history that's the case. jimmy carter had a lot of problems with fellow democrats and you're the expert on john kennedy, he had problems with fellow democrats, and he ran into a buzz saw with his own party. it's unusual. but it seems the president given the thin majorities, he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room here, right? >> he doesn't have a lot of wiggle room. he might have considered doing what john kennedy did. kennedy knew he was going to have a difficult relationship with congress, even though it was democratic. it was more conservative than he was in some respects. and so, in his inaugural address, he used that famous line, the work of my
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administration will not be done in 100 years-- at 100 days, not a thousand days, maybe not in the life of my administration. so, basically he exploded the first hundred days issue before it happened. but it's here. people are going to forget about that quickly. they focus on what the issues and day-to-day and week to week and the next crisis, that's the way we operate today. neil: and i think that kennedy might have been, that was the first president's first attempt to don't even do the 100 day specials and that's before cable news. and what do you think of when you look at this presidency of donald trump's, how do you think he's doing? >> look, you start with the gorsuch confirmation, and as everybody has said, he'll be on there for 30, 40 years, so, this stretches way beyond the trump administration and i've long felt those are the most important events in most administrationings. yes, you have a cuban missile crisis or something like that,
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that takes precedence. but today in our world, in our country, those supreme court appointments last longer than have more impact than almost anything else a president could do. so, he can be proud of that. he can't be proud of the health care debacle. he can blame it on paul ryan or blame it on democrats, in the end, it's the president's responsibility to get it done and republicans ran four campaigns on health care reform and getting rid of obamacare. they have to come back to it. i don't know when they're going to come back to it, they have to come back to it. neil: they have to come back to it. >> how do you face the voters again if you haven't done anything about what you've set four elections around? i don't see how it's possible. you're going to bget walloped in the voting booth. neil: thank you, my friend. lar larry sabato. you know that the special georgia election do or die for the republican candidate who thinks she's going to win.
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>> all right. karen handel is joining us now. the candidate goes against john ossoff who scared republican higher-ups because he darned near won the election, 48% of the vote and the runoff nor mishandle appeared to be much, much better. we did reach out to john ossoff, but haven't heard back. hope springs eternal. thank you for coming. >> absolutely, great to be here. neil: now, the president was arguing on your behalf in atlanta. and a crucial state to secure-- i'm sorry, health ap human services secretary state.
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do you feel that pressure, that you're up against considerable odds here and that if you don't deliver the goods, it's somehow a big damning indictment of all things trump? what do you think? >> well, obviously, i feel the pressure, but not so much for what it means for the president, but what it means for the people of the 6th district. it's important for the 6th district to have their next congressman be someone like me who has a real track record of getting things done and some real experience unlike my opponent. neil: do you think you're being hurt by the president? whatever the controversies that he is had to endure, you could say self-inflicted and others say the media, who never gives him a break that it's hurting your battle? >> you know, he's the president of the united states. so president's support is a good thing and especially in a very solid republican district. with that said, it's the press and ossoff folks and the democrats who want to make this about the president.
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this is about the people of the 6th district and who is best aligned with the values of the 6th and who has the experience to actually represent them from day one. and also, about someone who actually lives in the district. neil: yeah, okay, much has been made. >> he does not. neil: i used to live in your fine district many years ago as a kid and i know it gets a rap for being a very red district and by and large it has been since, you know, the days of newt gingrich, but the fact of the matter is, it doesn't fill the typical definition of hard red republican right districts. it's a very educated district, it's a very diverse district, it's a very well-healed district. so, i-- well-heeled district. i wonder if that's evolving and changing? >> it's a still solid republican district and within the 6th it's the broad spectrum of republicans and what you saw
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in that primary is less about it being more democrat and the fact that democrats had essentially a coronation, if you will, for their candidate while we had a very aggressive and competitive 11-way primary among the republicans. neil: the president who has already campaigned on your behalf. have you asked him to come back? >> i don't know if he will. we would welcome him. we'll have speaker ryan, hopefully in a couple of weeks. the great news about this, republicans have all come together. all of my republican opponents were altogether. this is bigger than any one person. we have to hold this seat for republicans. neil: all right. we'll watch very, very closely. ms. handel, thank you very, very much from atlanta georgia. the republican congressional candidate from that crucial 6th district. in the meantime, the president is announcing 100 days really doesn't matter. he's right about that. so, now the focus on the next 100 and 200 and 300 after this. k to capture investing ideas that instantly gives you
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>> well, i think i've gotten and developed tremendous relationships throughout the world with the leaders. that's something that you won't-- you know, we have this artificial barrier called 100 days which i'm not a big fan of. neil: all right, the truth is he was a big fan of the 100 day thing when he was at gettysburg outlining the 100-day plan. obviously the obsessing that we do in the media on it and a special on it, the first 100 days. i think he's right and wrong about that, but that's as it is. the president talked about his relationships with foreign leaders and what have you, and that depends on the foreign leaders and the fallout on that. i want to focus now on just beyond the domestic consumption that we get.
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wall street journal's joining us and buckle.com political editor july i albin and lee carter pollster. lee, begin with you. the foreign leaders many sort of stunned by the president, but very different reactions. i mean, if you're angela merkel maybe not so favorable. the canadian prime minister who has his doubts. but he is a different taste to them and how do you think that's registering with them? >> it seems like it's changing by the day. one day he's saying he's pulling out from nafta and then gets a call and it's going perfectly. neil: maybe that's by design to get them to-- >> are the an of the deal, tough negotiating. people are confused they don't know how to take them, don't know what to do. this isn't traditional negotiating and diplomacy. for the most part people want a relationship with the united states and want to succeed.
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i'm not sure that anybody understands what they should be doing as they go forward, what to expect. is he going to be an ally, a rogue, someone they're going to be able to work with and are they not. neil: i'm wondering if he's doing that deliberately. if there's a method to that? >> theres' a great wall street journal article from a couple of months ago, presenting yourself as the right of the kind of crazy. neil: hey, i built a career about it. [laughter] >> you're succeeding-- kidding. and it's creating this unp unpredictability when you're dealing with them. i'm not sure he has a strategy, we don't want to show our game plan. in the early days of the presidency, in a fight with the mexican president, you're going to build the wall, you're going to build the wall. and the australian prime minister, and if that relationship will continue.
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and one day china is a currency manipulator and the next day you're not clear about the reasons for doing so. the lack of consistency. we can hope there's strategy hyped it. i think that's a generous way to look at it. neil: and shelby and i, she just mentioned the wall street journal. let me get your thoughts on this and this is having to do more with the president's style than anything else and we could use a bull in the china shop and get past political speak to get results, but china is a good example of that. that it might be the president's approach to say i'm going to hold off on any economic sanctions or tough behavior, call you a, you know, a trade cheater and all that, if you can help me out with north korea. there could be a method to that. is that working in that case? i guess depend what happens with north korea, what do you think? >> absolutely. i was speaking to investors to about trump's first 100 days. and china was the biggest worry
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and now that he's backed off calling china a currency manipulator. and also look at mexico-- >> the market has been his biggest fan and biggest achievement if you look at it. >> absolutely. and mexico the point about the market. donald trump started his presidency publicly fighting with enrique penyetto and that has evolved. he's still using twitter and threatening other countries on twitter and the rhetoric changed and pulled back. and said publicly i need to work with the countries and understands the reality of the president and by that measure he's grown tremendously in the first 100 days. neil: i think the last 50 days have been more promising than the first 50. >> i would agree with that, thank you. neil: ladies, thank you very much. and we have more on what's at stake as the crowds of protesters descend on the white house? should the president be worried about them?
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>> i got an angry e-mail from a viewer. neil, you said you would have leonardo dicaprio on your show. i did not, he's attending so there. leland: test firing a missile despite a warning from secretary rex tillerson that it could face catastrophic consequences. and for the fourth time in a row, the missile launch failed. the reaction from the white house. elizabeth: plus, president trump's 100th day in office. and a demonstration. and reviewing all of our nation's trade agreement. leland: just two days ago, president trump signed another executive order to protect whistle

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