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didn't put it in your pilot? >> dana: put the candy in your mouth. never miss an episode of the five, don't forget to set >> bret: president trump says the country may need a good government shutdown as his administration rips democrats for spiking the budget football. this is "special report" ." good evening paired welcome to washington. i am bret baier. president trump may be setting the stage for an all-out war with senate democrats over the next budget. democrats have been gloating over shutting down much of the president's agenda in the most recent budget bill. the president says the government shutdown in september might be a good thing. essentially to shake things up here in washington. all this comes as congressional republicans battle with themselves again over
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health care. another vote looming if they have a vote. john roberts starts us off from the north lawn. >> the president prides himself on being the master negotiator and he is clearly incensed of charges from his own party that he got ruled by democrats on the spending bill. >> that's some big people behind me. >> with the champion air force falcons football team behind him, president trump dismissed complaints he caved to democrats on the spending bill. he got military spending and more. >> we brought lawmakers together from both sides of the aisle to deliver a budget that funds the rebuilding of the united states military, makes historic investments in border security, and provides health care for our miners and school choice for our disadvantage children. >> missing was money to build the border wall. it was left of the budget
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director to put the best face on that. mick mulvaney saying they got millions to replace flimsy border fencing with a 20-foot high steel wall. >> we are building this now. there is money in this deal to build several hundreds of million dollars of this to replace this. that's what we got in this deal, and that's what the democrats don't want you to know. this stuff is going up now. why? because the president wants to make the country more safe. stick with the president was clearly stunned by the democrats claim 12 won the spending negotiations, tweeting this morning. "our country needs a good "shutdown" in september to fix mess!" several republicans are doing a shutdown is not what the nation needs. the president's budget director backed up the boss saying a shutdown may be just the antidote. >> if we get to september and it is still business as usual and nothing changes and it takes a shot of a change it, i've no problem with it. figure the president also kept up the drumbeat for his plan to repeal and replace obamacare.
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calling out several members of congress in the rose gardens audience. >> how is health care coming? moving along? i think it's time pace to >> the white house that house republicans are looking at about on thursday. sources say they are a few votes short. >> we are still working and were going to get it done. >> there was a new fuel for opponents of repealing obamacar obamacare. jimmy kimmel tearfully told the story of his newborn son's recent life-saving heart surgery. >> before 2014, if you are born with congenital heart disease like my son was, there was a good chance you would never be able to get health insurance because you had a pre-existing condition. if your baby is going to die and it doesn't have to, it shouldn't matter how much money you make. i think that's something, whether you are a republican or democrat or something else, waste all agree on that. >> president trump and says pre-existing conditions are
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covered in the nobel, states can seek a waiver from the mandate which could cause premiums for people in high-risk pools to skyrocket. former president obama sounded off this afternoon tweeting "well said. that's exactly why we fought so hard for the aca and why we need to protect it for kids like billy. and congratulations." >> the health care bills fate remains uncertain in the house. the chances in the senate are more dicey. it would need 51 votes to pass. it may need substantial changes before it makes it to the floor. there is no telling whether or not those changes would be acceptable to the republicans who have fought so viciously over this bill. bret. >> bret: john roberts, thank you. what would changing the senate rules accomplish? chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel goes in-depth on that issue tonight. >> with major legislation moving slowly on capitol hill some conservatives are calling for changing the senate rules.
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what's known as the nuclear option on legislation. some are suggesting the senate filibuster is being abused. >> we are struggling. now it's time for the senate to share in the tough work. >> with all due respect to the other body, it seems that the way the filibusters being used is to protect members from taking difficult votes. >> majority leader mitch mcconnell could make a point on the floor that he thinks a sample majority of 51 votes should overcome filibusters. the chair would rule against him because that is not the senate way. mcconnell would need a simple majority to overrule the chair to change the requirement for all future legislation. that's what the senate did to get judge neil gorsuch confirmed to the supreme court when it changed the requirement for all votes on supreme court justices. the other option is even more daunting and unlikely. changing the senate rules to limit the filibuster requires at least 67 senators to support doing so.
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president trump has already had enough, venting his frustration earlier today, catching the attention of leading democrats. >> i think the idea of the nuclear option for legislative staff is pretty much dead. >> 52 republicans, a change to a civil majority could allow the g.o.p. to pass permanent tax cuts, make deep cuts in spending and expand oil and gas exploration. today utah conservative senator mike lee warned 60 vote threshold saved republicans during the eight years of president obama. >> it has protected us from a march toward european-style socialism. >> senate republican leadership has been unwilling to consider changing to a simple majority for legislation. >> the american people expect us to work together. they like it when we reached by patterson agreements. stick with the bipartisan deals have been hard to come by. for many, the word compromise
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has become a dirty word and there are signs that patience is wearing thin. >> bret: mike emanuel. thanks. the director of the veterans hospital and shreveport, louisiana, has been fired. toby matthew was accused of refusing to buy essentials like vital signs machines, linens, and mattresses while spending millions on furniture, tv and solar panels. he has been blamed for covering up a secret waiting list. he was the highest profile va firing since the secretary left in may of 2014. the heads of several major airlines encountered heavy turbulence today on capitol hill. lawmakers read the executive's a very long ride to act over the way customers are being treated and have been treated in the not so friendly skies. correspondent kristin fisher shows what happened today. >> you know you're having a bad day when the group that's going to lecture you on customer satisfaction is the congress paid >> executives buckled up
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for a blistering hearing. >> i was going to ask, why do you hate the american people? >> you probably feel like a lot of flyers, very claustrophobic and waiting for something bad to happen. >> executives were invited to testify before the house transportation and infrastructure committee but only for short out. american, alaska, southwest, and of course united. the ceo was secured for his response to a passenger being dragged off a plane. >> could you tell us what you are thinking? >> it was appalling. >> it was awful to watch. reminded me of a trump campaign rally. >> i never want to see a paying customer pulled off a flight to move a crew. you charter a plane if you need to. she never be at the expense of a paying customer ever. >> united ceo oscar munoz called it a mistake of epic proportions. >> it's not who we are. it's not this company.
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frankly, it's not this industry. >> munoz said the airline has made changes, limiting the use of law enforcement and productive passengers already on the plane. >> once you are on board, you will not be removed. >> committee members openly wondered if those assurances are good enough. they argued the united incident was complete the latest and most blatant example of an airline abusing its power over passengers. an adequate seat sizes, overbooking, excess baggage fees. >> how much does it cost you t ? give me a number. you are charging people 200, 300 bucks. i would observe united got a hundred million dollars in change fees last year. >> one airline stood out above the rest. southwest for charging no change fees and for making this promise. >> beginning may 8, southwest will no longer overbooked flights. >> the question, can congress
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trust other airlines to follow the lead or are regulations needed on an industry where consolidation is wiping out competition. >> sees the opportunity because if you don't, we're going to come and you're not going to like it. >> at least four bills have been introduced that would further regulate the airline industry. >> bret: thank you. fists were flying even before the plane was off the ground on a flight out of japan. take a look. one of the combatants is said to be an intoxicated american taken into custody and heart with assault. the airline had reportedly deemed the man in the red shirt a potential safety threat for causing a disturbance and asked him to leave the plane pretty was also accused of attacking a female passengers to go passenger and an airline employee. french counterterrorism forces detained 5 minutes these weapons as a country prepares for this weekends presidential runoff. the rest comes less than two weeks after a gunman opened fire
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on police, killing one and injuring two. security and terrorism are two main themes of the french election. isis militants staged a surprise attack this morning at a crossing frequently used by iraqi and syrian civilians. at least 37 people were killed there, some terrorists blew themselves up while others attacked sleeping civilians in the nearby refugee camp. north korea's news agencies of the u.s. is moving the region toward nuclear conflict. that statement comes as the u.s. brings a controversial antimissile system online in the south and president trump extend something of an olive branch to kim jong-un. benjamin hall has latest. >> american b-1 bombers deployed over the korean peninsula, conducting joint drills with
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south korea's air force. ongoing exercises aimed at flexing military muscles. today the north responded by accusing the u.s. of pushing korea to the brink of nuclear war. it also said it was waiting for the moment it will reduce the whole of the u.s. mainland to ruin. it came only a day after president trump praised north korean leader kim jong-un, calling him a smart cookie. saying he would be honored to meet him. >> under the right circumstances, i would absolutely meet with him. >> and you are thinking -- -- >> most political people would never say that but under the right circumstances, i would meet with him. >> president trump was ridiculed by none other than hillary clinton. sticker negotiations are critical but they have to be part of a broader strategy, nott thrown out in a tweet. hey, let's get together. see if we can't get along. maybe we can come up with some
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sort of deal. >> china's foreign ministry says it was encouraged by the outreach. >> translator: the most effective way of cooling down is to seek ways to reestablish dialogue and contact. we have noticed the messages sent out by the u.s. side and the science within the messages which are constructive. >> still, questions about china's true motivations, with some pointing out it is often playing both sides. >> think they don't want north korea to have nuclear weapons but on the other hand, not doing anything even remotely necessary to make it happen. if china is serious, there's only one way to end the north korean nuclear problem and that's to end the north korean regime. >> today the thaad antimissile defense system went operational. the pentagon says they can shoot down north korean missiles. analysts say if there were an attack from the north, the first line of attack would be with the heavy artillery pieces of which they have thousands had in around the country.
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they are aimed at seoul and the u.s. forces. this the 16 -- the thaad system can't stop them. >> bret: president trump spoke with vladimir putin on the phone today. the president said he was -- president trump will host the head of the palestinian authority. he has extended an invitation to the leader of the philippines, who has been accused of human rights violations. tonight rich edson at the state department looks at the american presidents willingness to engage with some of the world most authoritarian leaders. >> he told the last u.s. president to go to. this u.s. president has invited him to the white house. rodrigo duterte, president of the philippines. humans rights groups say he's prosecuting a deadly drug war. >> he's been very, very tough on
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the drug problem. he has a massive drug problem. if you come to the white house, it's fine. i look forward to meeting him. because you have a leader who has authorized extrajudicial killings. the president of the united states welcoming him and giving him legitimacy. >> democrats have criticized president from first thing he would meet with north korean dictator kim jong-un under certain conditions. president congratulated turkish president recipe aired one on a referendum that helped him consolidate power. invited thailand's premise for the white house and has already hosted egyptian prime minister kenny. >> we are behind him. >> praise and invitations for world leaders human rights groups say are consistent violators of democratic principles. state farm and officials say they often raise concerns about how these governments treat their citizens. adding that they have discussed their differences with philippine officials about the approach to the drug war. white house has president trump wants to meet with president
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duterte to discuss an urgent regional problem, north korea's aggression. duterte has rebuffed president trump's offers saying he's too busy with travel plans to russia and israel. the united states has partnered with leaders. saudi arabia. one republican senator says there's a difference. >> they are an important ally in the middle east. i would not compare saudi arabia country and government without of a filipino dictator who is violating basic human rights laws with extrajudicial killings. >> and then there is the leader russian president vladimir puti vladimir putin. they spoke today and they have highlighted how the relationship has reached a low point, especially since the inauguration. >> bret: more on this with the panel.
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thank you. up next, hillary clinton speaks out on who she thinks is to blame for her election loss last november. first, here's what some of our affiliates are covering. fox carolina in greenville, former police officer michael slager pleads guilty to violating the civil rights of an unarmed black motorist. he shot and killed him as he ran from a traffic stop. prosecutors will drop a pending murder charge. michael slager's first trial ended in a hung jury. fox 23 in portland, maine, governor paul page says he is suing the attorney general. he says janet mills has refused to represent the executive branch and courts. her office as the governors wasting wasting resources by hiring a lawyer to file a frivolous lawsuit. this is a live look at phoenix from fox 10. one of the big stories there, border patrol agents find more than 611 pounds of marijuana in
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a casket. officers became suspicious when a hearse came through in immigration checkpoint at night. they found $33,000 with a pot inside and arrested the driver. that is tonight's live look outside the beltway from "special report." we'll be right
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outcome on a number of figures, forces, and factors other than herself. fielding questions at a women for women international luncheon. she claimed if the election had been held on october 27, "i would be your president." she referenced the letters released to congress by james comey, re-opening and closing the investigation into mrs. clinton's private email server. she accused wikileaks relying on help from the kremlin to release emails hacked from clinton's campaign manager. >> it wasn't a perfect campaign. there is no such thing. but i was on the way to winning until the combination of jim comey's letter on october 28 and russian wikileaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off. >> mrs. clinton said her work on
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a book relieving the campaign is a painful process. it follows the release last month of "shattered" by reporters jonathan allen and amy barnes. they report and after her lost to barack obama in the primary in 2008, she ordered aides to access her server and review the emails. the candidate herself could see "who was talking to who, who was leaking to who." >> you can read all about this excruciating analysis that i'm engaged in. when i'm not in the woods walking my dog. >> is it therapy? >> i wouldn't say it's therapy. i would say it is cathartic because it's very difficult to succeed a two-term president of
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your own party. that's a historical fact. >> mrs. clinton made it clear she has no intention of seeking office again, describing herself as an active citizen "part of the resistance." >> bret: more on this with the panel. a big shakeup tonight at a major conservative think tank. jim dement is out as head of heritage foundation. there's been no comment, the senator from south carolina and a leading figure in the tea party movement. they elected a new president and ceo and they conduct a search for the successor. show business of -- writers had authorized a walkout. the writers guild must still ratify the agreement. there are indications u.s. auto
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sales are slowing after seven straight years of growth. general motors, ford, toyota, fiat chrysler, nissan, honda are all reporting weaker american sales last month than a year ago at the same time. if only volkswagen reported an increase. last year's vw sales were depressed by the admissions cheating scandal. markets today, stocks up. the dow jumped 36. s&p 500 rose 3. nasdaq finished i had 4. we are awaiting a decision from president trump on whether the u.s. will continue to participate in a worldwide global warming treaty he criticized during the campaign. doug mckelway tells us tonight the animosity in the climate change wars is hitting new lows. >> in 191, climate skeptic john christy got a metal from nasa. last week, he got seven bullet holes in his office window. police think it was random.
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john christie thinks he was targeted. he measures earth temperatures from satellite data. he is skeptical of predictions of warning. >> simply put, we can't say with any confidence to you or the american taxpayer that by adopting policy x, we will reach impact y. >> "wall street journal" opinion writer experienced doubts on man-made global warning. >> the guardian called him a hippie puncher. readers complained and some threaten to cancel subscriptions. it is in this political climate the president who called global warming a hoax heads to paris.
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the white house acknowledges whether it's onshore to remain party to the treaty. >> we expect to have a decision by the time of the summit in late may. >> the inner circle is said to be divided. steve bannon and scott pruitt are opposed to staying in. jared kushner, ivanka, and secretary of state rex tillerson want to stay. >> i think we are better served by being at the table than leaving the table. >> a rejection of the paris climate treaty would likely subject trump to further derision from european allies who have imposed tougher good tory standards in hopes of lowering greenhouse gas emissions. remaining party to the nonbinding accord could expose trump to criticism from those who supported his agenda to end the obama era environmental regulations they say impeding a full economic recovery. >> bret: thank you. major embarrassment tonight for the fbi. recently unsealed documents reveal a former bureau translator assigned to help hunt
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and isis terrorist married him instead. served two years in prison. daniela greene was already married to a u.s. soldier. the terrorist is still at large. fbi says it has taken several steps to identify and reduce security vulnerabilities as a result of this case. state department warning americans who plan to travel in europe to especially on alert. this comes as 2017 is on pace to become a record year for terrorism arrests and suicide attacks. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is here. >> thank you. stay to permit travel alert warns u.s. citizens of the continuing threat of terrorist attacks targeting tourist locations, transportation hubs, markets and shopping halls. the alert reads widely reported incidents demonstrate the islamic state have the ability to plan and execute terrorist
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attacks in europe. according to congressional investigators, data show six years after seal team six killed osama bin laden in pakistan, the threat remains high with terrorist inspired or directed plots focused on civilians. since 2013, the homeland security committee reports 198 isis claimed plots against the west with 21 this year alone. the terror group has taken suicide attacks into the mainstream with 63 plots against the west with more than half between 2016 and 2017. the data shows the growing use of vehicles as weapons. the attack in stockholm marked the fourth attack in europe over 12 months. in march, homeland security department brought a new rules impacting ten airports in eight countries banning electronic devices larger than an iphone in carry-on luggage. republican chairman of the committee told fox the restrictions are based on
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information pointing to a near-term plot. >> on specific credible intelligence that there's an imminent threat to our aviation sector and i think to the administration took responsible actions to safeguard the safety of americans. the war on terror did not and with the death of osama bin laden. in fact, there have been more terror plots against the west since his killing than at any time since 9/11 prayed >> analyst report french and british authorities are seeing a big jump in women getting involved with terrorism. >> bret: thank you. the united nations thumbed its nose at the u.s. senate and president trump today. it's educational, scientific, and cultural organization labeled israel and occupying power and then called on the jewish state to seize persistent archaeological work in jerusalem. the vote came despite a letter
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from president trump and signed by all the senators. we told you earlier president trump old -- will trys hand at diplomacy tomorrow. conor powell tells us what's at stake. >> president donald trump's push for peace in the middle east continues tomorrow with a rare visit to the white house by palestinian president mahmoud abbas. in recent days, abbas met with the egyptian president and king abdullah. they reiterated their support for a two-state solution between israelis and palestinians. as a candidate, trump vowed to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem and backed israel settlement expansion. as president, he has adopted a softer tone on settlements and has put the embassy move on
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hold. tomorrow's talks come as the militant group hamas issued a manifesto monday. it's new charter endorses a palestinian state alongside israel with its internationally backed 1967 borders. >> translator: hamas is not fighting against jews because they are jews. they are fighting zionist occupiers. >> leaders appear unsure what to make of president trump's shifting middle east policies. abbas, under intense pressure at home to protect american funding for his palestinian authority and secure the release of some of the thousands of palestinian prisoners, many currently participating in a hunger strike in israeli jails. landing a significant concession from netanyahu will be difficult given the power of israel's political right wing.
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netanyahu is seeking concessions that the palestinian president is unlikely to agree to. yesterday, the israeli prime minister demanded abbas' top financial payments to palestinians who carried out attacks on israelis prayed >> you want to make a step toward peace? cancel the payment, cancel the law that requires payment. fund peace, not murder. >> president trump is expected to visit yours alone. they will want to hear in the coming days about what he expects them to do to end the conflict. >> bret: conor powell, thank you. the administration pushes back on the narrative that it gave to democrats on the budget. we will talk about that and a host of issues when the panel joins me after the
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>> i think the president is frustrated with the fact that he negotiated in good faith with the democrats and they are going to try to spike the football. i don't anticipate a shutdown but if negotiations, if the democrats aren't going to behave any better, it may be inevitable. we get to september and it's still business as usual, and nothing changes and it takes a shutdown to change it, i have no problem with it. >> the president disparages it in a way that's destructive. essentially saying let's have a shutdown. >> i guess maybe some of the victories we had in this omnibus may be getting under the president's skin. >> bret: the spending bill hasn't been voted on yet but democrats are claiming success. republicans defending what's in the bipartisan piece of legislation and you heard the budget director also the president tweeted this morning.
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"the reason for the plan negotiated between the republicans and democrats is that we need 60 votes in the senate which are not there! we either elect more republican senators in 2018 or change the rules now to 51%. our country needs a good "shutdown" in september to fix mess!" that's what they were referencing. let's bring in the panel. charles heard, opinion editor for "the washington times." julie pace, white house correspondent for the associated press and a syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. seems clear the president wasn't happy with the reaction and probably send people out to make the case. >> i think what had him more frustrated than the idea of democrats selling their victories is the idea that there were people questioning the deal he made and saying he got rolled, he gave up too much. >> bret: the guide to your left, >> this gentleman. you saw the elaborate rollout at the white house where you had mick mulvaney out there in
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multiple formats defending the deal, defending the idea that the president would be willing to perhaps shutdown the government in september if he doesn't get a better deal. it's a really extraordinary thing to say, especially when you do have this current spending bill that hasn't been voted on yet. you haven't really gotten to the finish line. >> bret: this vote hasn't happened. here is the president and his homeland security secretary on the border issues. >> we achieved the single largest increase on border security, funding in ten years. we have more money now than we did in ten years. >> they are rejoicing at the fact that the wall will be slower to be built and consequently the border under less control than it could be. >> bret: charles. >> assuming this bill passes and
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i think it's safe to assume it will, this is not what republicans got elected to do, and it's not what voters elected donald trump for. but what i do think, the good thing coming out of it is the fact that this tweet donald trump sent out about the shutdown, i think it's actually arguably a smart strategy because it focuses, turns the focus. maybe they have to do this to get to the fall but he's turning his focus on democrats, and he needs to do that. coming out of the first failure of the health care bill, that donald trump was focusing his ire on the freedom caucus. that does not help him. does not help republicans breed he needs them. if this means they turn the focus on democrats in the 2018 elections and then play a game
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of chicken over real issues with the next threat of a government shutdown, it might not be a bad thing. >> bret: dangerous. >> very dangerous. think i think the major threat is not a shutdown. they pointed out in the national review, you would say that party in power would get the blame for a shutdown. it doesn't work that way. no matter who's got the white house, democrat or republican, the brain always ends up on the republican side. the media are set on it. it's not going to change. the big threat is the nuclear option on the filibuster. i think if you are a realistic republican, you're going to say the next time the democrats have the white house, they are probably going to pull the trigger. >> bret: they moved on the nominations, including the supreme court nominations committee of the nuclear option, 51% but senator mcconnell, majority leader said he would not do that for regular
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legislation for every other bill. president trump is saying we should look at it. >> i respect mcconnell. he thinks it would be a radical revision of the rules. it would be. if you look back over the last half-century, the filibuster has been abused. it's meant to be used for extreme measures, changing the social landscape like civil rights. it was not for every bill. right now, every bill needs 60% pray that's not the way a democracy is run. that's not the way our government was run for 200 years. it's not the end of the worlds my thickets realistic thing to do if you control the white house and the senate and the house and you can't get anything done because your eight vote short of 60%. who invented that number? it's a reasonable thing to threaten. you knock on a compromise. you are going to be in the resistance against everything trump proposes, we will drop a nuclear option and we will be
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able to pass our legislation. that's what i would do if i were trump. it's only a tweet. i don't know how serious it is but it's the right strategy. shutdown is not a strategy. nuclear option is a strategy. >> bret: ted cruz would say the shutdown battle in 2015 that ended up going to a shutdown was said to be cataclysmic for republicans in the ended up picking up seats in 2014. i want to turn to health care, julie. kevin brady on the hunt for health care votes that may still be coming this week. >> i think we are making progress. we ought to let consensus drive the timing. let's get people to the right place for the right reasons. members are taking this seriously. i have seen these announcements on the web counter. i don't think they are accurately or having the right discussions. let them continue.
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>> bret: "wall street journal." house republican leaders are on the brink of losing votes, overturning much of the affordable care act. dashing hopes from the white house for a big legislative won. 21 republicans have said they oppose the latest version to overall health care with almost equal number publicly undecided. >> last week white house officials felt confident they would be able to get a vote. yesterday and today, they sound like they are more skeptical. i talk to it senior white house official who thought they were about five votes short but they said it become zero or 15. they don't know what direction it's going to go. to our earlier discussion, this underscores the problem is not necessarily the senate. if he can get a build of the senate, than the nuclear option becomes a problem but in this case it's not clear he's going to be able to get health care out of the house. >> bret: a real concern about pre-existing conditions.
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the president was asked about it. there is another factor. jimmy kimmel with an emotional story about the birth of his son and concerns about that. i can identify directly with it. it's almost the exact same story as my son. he makes the case that no family should have to worry about seeing their son or daughter die. he does not say republican or democrat but it's been taken to be concerns about pre-existing condition. >> i think it was a -- i sympathize with him. he is a dad. this is a traumatic event and i understand but if you want to turn it into a political issue you should be a little more subtle about it. he implied that the republicans want to watch these kids died. he didn't say that but that was the implication of being cruel and unfeeling. the fact is the issue is completely distorted. this is not an abolition
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protection for pre-existing condition. it's a waiver for states. it's not that you are denied if you have a pre-existing condition. the question is, it's a subtle and difficult and complicated one, who pays for the extra costs? is it going to be the people who share your insurance in the pool, which makes it hard for everybody else, or if you create the pools that used to exist that states would set up and they would put a lot of money into it, then you have the taxpayer do that. i think the logic is to have the cost shared across the range by having everybody, through taxes, supporting the extra costs so you don't raise the premiums for people in the pool with you to the point where other people can't get insurance. i think that's the basis of the argument. it's not, are you going to let the kids die or not? it's what's the most logical way
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to cover people with pre-existing conditions. the debate is distorted. >> bret: of former president obama weighed in on twitter saying this is why they created aca. the big thing is the insurance most people get, it's through their employer, and the linkage to employment is often seen as part of the issue because you can't lose your job and transfer your insurance. >> sure, and as charles said, it's obligated. the idea of taking pre-existing conditions out of the whole equation, that's no longer insurance. that's everybody covering everybody, which is kind of where we are right now and certainly where obamacare is. if people don't want to acknowle that you are asking somebody else who is working to pay taxes to cover someone else's pre-existing conditions, and i
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think jimmy kimmel, by saying you're not a decent person if you don't agree with obamacare, and if you don't agree with giving billions of dollars to a federal bureaucracy to support nih funding. to me, i find it very uncomfortable, especially when a famous person uses personal tragedy or anything like that and drags it into the political sphere. >> bret: i felt the story, and i think a lot of people did. >> that's why it's so effective. >> in the end, the country has accepted we do cover people with pre-existing conditions. the real question today is, how do you find it? there are different ways and i can't say one is immoral and one is moral. to our next tab, who to our next tab, who hillary clinton blames for the if you have medicare
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♪ >> they clearly interfered to hurt me and to help my opponent, within an hour or two of the hollywood access tape being made public. the russian john podesta emails hit wikileaks. what a coincidence. i am now back to being an active citizen and part of the resistance. as. >> bret: hillary clinton in an interview saying the election, she was in was a victim of mis. also, wikileaks and russia. they are saying basically there was some inference of collusion there. if you look at the abc "washington post" poll, at the election were held today,
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april 17th-20th, donald trump, 43%. also, on the fox news poll, russian modeling in the 2016 election, most voters saying move on, 37%. you can see the percentages there. clinton voters and drum voters. julie, what about this appearance today and her comments? >> i think that everyone wants to try to get hillary clinton to just admit that she was a big part of the problem. i think she got a little bit closer today. for the first time, she did acknowledge angie accepted responsibility for the role sher defeat. i think it is also true that other factors were involved. that happens in any presidential election. it is rarely one single thing that causes a candidate's defeat. the comey letter had an impact with some voters. wikileaks-podesta revelations had an impact with some voters. the one thing she didn't mention
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was that part of the reason the podesta emails in particular had an impact, certainly, the comey letter, it all traces back to the idea that she had this private server, questions about how she was keeping her emails, whether she was doing government business on a private server. >> bret: the conversation didn't go into deplorable's and how that sentence, about trump supporters being deplorable's, kind of effect of the polls at the time. >> it was a perfectly clinton response. she started by saying that she takes personal responsibility and then proceeded to blame absolutely everybody imaginal, including her gender. even president obama's two terms in office. that is particularly comical. i do think that president obama deserves blame for the loss. the problem was that she was running on his ideas, which after eight years, people got sick and tired of. >> bret: charles. >> the clintons have taken victimhood to a new scientific height, the experts, the entry
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in the dictionary should start with them. the fact as you point out, the things that did affect her, they affected the campaign, the comey letter and wikileaks stem from the effect of the original sin, the unbelievable arrogance of her setting up her server, keeping it secret, lying about it. the u.n. press conference, you go back and look at it, 20 minutes, i don't think there was a true statement in the whole 20 minutes. in the end, it ends up with her. i do think you are right about the deplorable line. that was the equivalent of romney's 47%, that that is wheu saw contempt for the other side, that is a losing proposition. >> bret: she says she is not running again and she is a civilian and part of the resistance. >> the resistance. >> bret: we will see. we'll follow that. that is it for the panel. up next, an nba star takes a quick hydration break. ♪ constipated? trust #1 doctor recommended dulcolax.
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♪ >> bret: finally, tonight, maybe enjoy a beer or two, especially at a big sporting event of course. the crowd at the cleveland cavaliers playoff game last night was in a jubilant mood with the defending champs up double digits, so much so that even lebron james grabbed a great lakes brew. >> turnover. james. he would have gotten the call.
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what an effort by lebron james. >> my momentum took me to the sideline and i'm not going to run over the beer lady. and she had one in her hand, so i took it out of her hand. not much of a beer guy. if she had some red wine, i would have taken a sip. [laughs] >> bret: [laughs] you can do that when you are the star, i think. thanks for inviting us into your home tonight. that is it for this "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the story" hosted by my colleague martha maccallum starts right now. ♪ >> it is may 3rd and this is a fox news alert. two police officers ambushed when gunmen pull up to their squad car and opened fire.
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what police are saying about the targeted attack as three people are taken into custody overnight. everyone to victory on the budget bill but did democrats have another plan. >> they wanted a shutdown. they were desperate to make this administration look like we couldn't function, like we couldn't govern. >> were democrats willing to cripple the government to get what they wanted, live in washington. hillary clinton out of hiding and still playing the blame game. >> i am back to being an activist citizen and part of the resistance. >> how donald trump just responded. "fox and friends" first starts right now.
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♪ go your own way ♪ go your own way ♪ >> a beautiful morning in new york city as you wake up on this wednesday morning. you are watching "fox and friends" first. heather: thanks for joining us and starting your day. let's get that fox news alert. two chicago police officers in another deliberate attack on the badge. the ambush happening as they sat on their car, police took three persons of interest being questions. the manhunt is very active. [shouting]