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>> kat: hello, everyone. i am kat timpf with eric bolling and eboni k. williams. we are "the fox news specialists" ." lots of breaking news today. chaos in manila, the capital of the philippines. gunshots and explosions ring out at a major hotel and casino play we will have an update shortly. first, a short time ago president trump dropping a climate deal bombshell. >> as of today, the united states will cease all implementation of the nonbinding paris accord and the draconian
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financial and economic burdens the agreement imposes on our country. this includes ending the implementation of the nationally determined contribution and, delay, the green climate fund which is costing the united states a vast fortun fortune. >> kat: i'm not surprised by this. it >> eric: no one should be. donald trump candidate ran on it, the anti-globalist agenda. this by definition is a globalist idea, the paris climate record. 195 countries. we will get in the specifics and a couple minutes but nobody should be surprised and don't be surprised also the coincidence of a brand-new stock market high on the day we pull out. pulling out of the paris accord is very, very good for american business bird we can argue whether he should get back in with a better deal or not but
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certainly business leaders feel optimistic that this is a good idea. >> kat: i think get in with a better deal, involving congress. should have been treated as a treaty. >> eboni: i am not bothered by this. this exactly what he ran on. even those that question donald trump and his issues with climate change or whatever, the point is that deal itself wasn't good. i think a lot of people don't wrap their heads around it because it's the idea of a deal, it sounds like a good thing, positive and productive. but it is only as good as the terms it's based on. this has unenforceable bad term terms. >> kat: let's meet today's specialists. she's a "new york times" bestseller, fox news contributor, and editor for, but she specializes in hunting and rafting on the colorado river. katie pavlich is here. and he is the 1987 brooklyn
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spelling bee champion, subject of the novel "ego and hubris," and a columnist. he specialized in north korea. he is the author of "dear reader, the unauthorized biography of kim jong il." michael malice is here. katie, a lot of people are saying the whole world is going to be on fire. do you think it's true? >> katie: no, it's not. the hysteria surrounding the united states leaving the paris climate record is incredible, especially considering all the hysteria we've seen so far with the trump administration. we have commentators a different network saying this is the day the united states stepped back and is no longer the leader of the free world. you have climate change proponents saying that the person has committed an act of treason against the american people. that's not true. when you look at the details of what this agreement would have
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required, 400,000 manufacturing jobs in this country gone, not to mention many millions, potentially down the road. decreasing $20,000 per family of four in terms of household income, $3 trillion of lost gdp, according to the agreement. the issue also is the international community, very upset we are leaving, but if the united states pulls out, while other countries pull out? that shows we are still leaders in the world. second of all, the united states for a very long time has been the founder of pet projects and slush funds for the international maneuver don't do a lot of good and don't handle the problem it is supposed to. this is the first step to stop american taxpayers funding these slush funds. see five climate change, i certainly believe it's real. i really don't buy into the idea that regulations are always the answer. i am one of those market people,
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like property rights could get involved. you can't have all these regulations if you want to create new businesses and that includes being energy businesses. i would like to see some sort of deal, if we get back in, i would like to see a deal following the proper channels of a treaty. >> eric: katie points out that the heritage foundation, u.s. chamber of commerce estimates the gdp loss around $3 trillion over ten years. that's substantial. let me explain why it costs us gdp. a lot of it is focused on the automobile industry, so these car companies are being told they have to increase cafe standards, miles per gallon standards. they are forced to make a lighter and lighter car, cost more money to use aluminum than steel. these cars are less safe. also natural gas is being forced under the accord. we have to pollute less so move
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away from coal, one of our most cheapest and abundant fuel sources in america into a more expensive fuel source. that means our electric bills are going to go up as well. as these costs translate to the consumer, gdp goes down. >> eboni: i want to get michael in this. i don't mind being more expensive. i think to do the right thing by our ecosystem is going to may be expensive. it's not enforceable, this deal. those who violate the terms of the agreement, how are you going to enforce it? >> eric: we were going to eat most of the cost, a big portion of the cost of this. we are the third or second largest polluter. the largest polluter, china, gets to continue to pollute more and more and more. >> kat: i think it's important to show we care about it. we don't want to completely abandon green energy, clean energy. that's where the rest of the world is going.
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>> michael: we are by ourselves -- i agree with katie. this isn't about leadership. it is about submission of the american government and the american people to a new world order. if you look at markets and price determined information, if aluminum goes up, there's either more to matter less supply. if you look at these predictions, they say were going to be underwater and we should have been underwater in the '90s. if this was true, beachfront property prices will be collapsing. we are not saying that. >> eboni: the views are too nice. >> michael: i trust people who have skin in the game, not the coal industry people. listen, if you agree with the french proposal, put on a beret, go there and pay 85% of your income to the french government. >> eric: elon musk said if we pull out of the paris accord he was going to pull out of some of
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the advisory boards that he's gone. think about that for second for the guy who runs an electric car company, subsidized largely by the u.s. taxpayer no less, wants us to move away from fossil fuel generated burning cars into his showroom. >> katie: that's exactly the point. >> eric: how do you produce electricity? cole. >> katie: that goes to the point of, is he interested in the environment and clean energy or interested in getting rich on electric cars because it benefits him? if he was interested in helping the environment, which i think there are a lot of people in the trump administration o.r. merrick is going to decrease its admissions without the power the cord. we have to decrease our missions. if he cared about the environment, he would stay as an advisor. >> eboni: a bit of a conflict
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break the deal itself bugs me. the same way that the iran deal bugged me. it's a bad deal. good mission, good intentions, bad, on the enforceable terms of the deal. france, germany, italy already saying the deal cannot be renegotiated. that's pretty get less. -- that's ridiculous. >> eric: who signed the deal? who thought it was a good idea to reduce our missions by 28%, paid the vast majority of money, transfer of wealth from us to the developing nations? president obama. >> kat: not surprisingly, the media are pouncing on the irreparable damage they claimed the president will caused by pulling out of the climate deal. take a listen. >> with the u.s. pulling out of the paris climate agreement, a majority of scientists are in agreement that were going to see temperatures rise. let's look scientifically at what that means. he could see the seas continue
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to rise, flooding in new york city to shanghai, deadlier heat waves. we would see droughts, wildfires, mass extinction in the natural world. coral reefs, low-lying countries such as the marshall islands would disappear entirely. >> kat: eboni, he is saying this about the deal. we are not talking about actions or what's ultimately going to happen. we are talking about a specific deal. without this deal, that's going to all happen? no. >> michael: sounds like the rapture. we have been hearing these predictions for at least 30 years. none of that has happened and at no point are they like maple we got something wrong. the idea that climate change is automatically man-made and a catastrophe are leaps they are making.
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>> eboni: let's slow it down, i agree. it's a bit far of a leap. i think there are things we can and should be doing to be more responsible consumers. but i think we are in agreement then applauding this is a good deal. >> michael: if trump said we are still going to meet these goals, he would still get attacked because what they want is for the u.s. wanting international consensus rather than doing it on our own volition. >> katie: you have to look at the end result. is the deal going to reduce the earth's temperature by 4 degrees? absolutely not. they have all of these predictions. all those productions i'm pretty sure i saw al gore make in 2002 when his film that came out "an inconvenient truth" completely debunked but used in classrooms across the country to sell climate change. in the ' 80s and possibly
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70s, we were told the earth was going to freeze. he was talking about rising sea levels. i am from arizona. arizona used to be under an ocean. you can find seashells at the top of the grand canyon. yes, they climate changes. it has been changing for a long time. to act like the international community is going to use american taxpayer dollars to reduce the earth's temperature by 4 degrees is a fantasy land and i'm glad the president is not behind it. >> eric: if you want to play fantasy land, that's fine. if you want to get behind a president who says let's do this fantasy land, but as long as everyone is plain with the same set of rules, we can't be forced into $3 trillion of reduced gdp while china continues to eat our lunch and manufacturing. and put us at a competitive disadvantage to china. they are the number one polluter on the planet. they are going to be allowed to increase their pollution for 13 more years. yet we are required to pull back
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or we are find. >> katie: there is a difference between pollution and climate change. no one wants to be a polluter. we can reduce pollution, but the idea of climate change providing everything doesn't add up. >> eboni: even when china does continue, how do we enforce tha that? 's >> kat: contents -- gunshots and explosions at a hotel in the philippines. it's something that's always present. you're always thinking about it. what if my cancer comes back?
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>> eric: explosions and gunfire erupting at a hotel and casino in manila, forcing the facility to lockdown and fleeing. >> i can hear gunshots.
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>> [screaming] >> eric: there are a lot of conflicting reports. during his speech, president trump refer to it as a terrorist attack and there have been reports of multiple injured. the national police chief is saying it may have been a robbery as a motive. clearly, a chaotic situation. this comes after isis-linked militants have laid siege to a city in the south. but there is some good news coming in the fight against isis but one of the founders of the propaganda arm was reportedly killed today. i -- isis to credit at one point but now police are saying it may be a robbery. isis and terrorism spreading throughout the globe. >> katie: the philippines has a serious problem when it comes
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to isis gaining a foothold and a stronghold in the south of the country. the president has said it's an issue, a serious issue. isis militants in the philippines kidnapped a christian priest and sent out a hostage video. it's a concern throughout southeast asia. >> eboni: we know it's wrong. isis black flags going up everywhere. individual instance, whether it turns out to be that or not,shof concern we should have over this growing problem. we have to figure out. i keep saying the whack a mole thing. how do we get it edit roots -- how do we get at it at roots? >> eric: and air strike killing one of these isis founders. >> kat: i'm happy. as eboni is saying, it's
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spreading. at the root, it's an ideological problem and there's going to be more involved in eradicating it. isis, as you were saying in the break, all the time claims responsibility for things they didn't do. it makes it look more powerful. the latter of their work for a psychological, making sure things are horrific and making sure they are in our minds because obviously they don't have a defense like a country like the united states does as a terror group and hoping to destroy our way of life through fear. it's important to not let that happen. >> eric: we saw the video, certainly looks more like -- i'm speculating. looks more like terror than a robbery. >> michael: president duterte is kind of a strongman and they strive on chaos and carnage brady has declared martial law in parts of the philippines. we don't know where this is going. they're looking for excuses to crack down on radical islam. back in the day, it was communism throughout the world.
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people took our stand and if you look at hungary and you look at the philippines, these people are drawing a line of the backlash is going to start coming let's talk way to becoming from the united states. coming from these countries where the people of the top are uninhibited. >> eric: we have talked about this. a lot of the victims, most of the victims of isis terror muslims. >> katie: this week we saw the horrible truck bombing in kabul, afghanistan. the suicide bombing in baghdad. this is a problem that affects everybody and i think if you go back to what the president said during the foreign trip, there's a lot of leaders in this community are going to have to deal with how to stop this from spreading their own communities but spread throughout the world. the point you made, these different governments are going to have to decide what works for them. there can't be a one-size-fits-all policy when it comes to fighting terror. every country is different. every countries whenever different sector of islamic
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terrorism. we have seen it around the world. terror groups banding together. they're going to have to take a hard look at what's happening the country in the united states are going to be there to help them in terms of providing counterintelligence. >> kat: these things are going to be changing all the time but all these areas are unstable. >> eric: will leave it there. president trump calls unmasking the big story in the russian probe with three top former obama and administration officials under scrutiny by the house intel committee. we have the latest coming up next. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis, isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently.
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>> eboni: with the number of trumpet allies getting dragged into the russian probe growing,
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president trump took to twitter. writing the big story is the "unmasking and surveillance" of people that took place during the obama administration. on wednesday, the house intel committee served cimino subpoe. susan rice, john brennan and samantha power. the inclusion of samantha power has raised some red flags. judge andrew napolitano said this. >> should've had nothing to do with this unless it was for political purposes, so the unmasking is a below the radar screen crisis. occurred at the tail end of the obama administration when they began to fear hey, donald trump might win. >> eboni: michael, i appreciate the judge's enthusiasm. we all know unmasking is not a legal and we the definition, it's a subjective standard.
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i think that's what's frustrating. eric, you point out how dangerous it is. all anybody has to say is susan rice, she said she needed to know who these people are. where is the crime? >> michael: we have political warfare in this country and we had it for decades. it's only now that the right has started fighting the left, yesterday was having awful comedian with the horrible cartoon. >> eboni: who? >> michael: kathy lee gifford i think. when the corporate press thinks it's her problem, when -- they have to be held with their feet to the fire. >> eric: i want to push back. unmasking itself may or may not be illegal. done properly it's legal but here's the problem. you need to go to a fisa court
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to get the information in the fisa court is secretive, has to see national security at risk and if you can include a u.s. person who is not the target of the investigation, you have to mask their name. if you start unmasking people's names, you are violating their constitutional rights by doing so unless there is a national security risk at heart. susan rice unmasked general flynn without any national security risk whatsoever. purely political reasons. >> eboni: we don't know that. >> eric: you could have a president who wants to unmask everyone. >> eboni: you are right, my answer is to reevaluate the standard. you might be right about susan rice ben hur political motivation with a problem that's from a legal standpoint, simple issue, you might have an issue. criminally there is no crime because all she has to say as
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she felt the need to know. >> katie: i have a question on the legal aspects. if susan rice is going to the fisa court and sing i need this person unmasked because national security is at stake, but her real motivation is political purposes, isn't that lying to the court? >> eboni: and mike lying but we approve it. -- it might be lying to the court. >> eric: they say he poses no national security risk. a political white house staffer unmasks. >> eboni: here is the issue. the answer is context. she said she knew the name revealed so i can understand the gravity and the importance of the report for that's what she's on record as saying and i challenge anybody to prove otherwise. >> katie: susan rice specifically was asked in an interview with pbs i believe, did you know anything about
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unmasking when he came to the trump administration, the term transition team. she said absolutely not. i was very surprised that congressman nunes brought that up. and then she got caught doing it and then she said, she changed her story like she usually doesn't sit well, i did unmask people but it was for the good of the country. she is lying on the front end. >> kat: the issue is still, as eboni has been saying, the issue is you have the excuse. if you wanted to do those mean for political purposes, whether -- my suspicion is she did of her applicable purposes but i think the point is people have a sort of way to do things in the future because the standard is, and i quote "has to provide some value to foreign intelligence." >> eric: that is criminal. if you are using the fisa court to promote a political agenda.
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>> kat: all you have to do is say it, and i agree it's not enough. we need to look at the system that creates this kind of problems and not just individuals that are involved because this happens to be a republican. >> michael: she will never have legal consequence for her action. >> eboni: she didn't actually break the law. it's important. >> eric: we don't know. i would love to see some emails. >> eboni: if there was an objective standard. >> eric: if susan rice talks to john brennan and says i'm going to unmask it. >> eboni: like a confession? >> eric: i don't know, a smoking gun email. susan rice is no stranger to lying. >> eboni: nobody is saying she didn't lie. james comey set to testify in front of the senate a week from today. the white house could potentially stop it.
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>> eric: we are still arguing about fisa court warrants and unmasking. welcome back to "the fox news specialists." our specialists are
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katie pavlich and michael malice. james comey, former fbi director, will testify before the senate intel committee on thursday june 8 over the russian probe. it will be comey's first public remarks since the reports for claimed president trump urged him to drop the investigation into former national security advisor mike flynn. one idea being floated is whether the white house would try to block comey from testifying, citing executive privilege over the personal conversations. don't know about that but i want to go to eboni. comey has already somehow leaked or told investigators that he was going to talk about donald trump leaning on him to drop the investigation. prior to him testifying under oath, is it a good idea to talk about what he's going to testify to? >> eboni: i don't think it's a good idea. he is trying to get a narrative out there so people can have expectations as to what he's going to say.
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this is he said-he said. absent tape or memo, this is ultimately going to be about the credibility of president trump and what's left of the credibility of jim comey. >> eric: is going to be watchable tv. open hearing and a private hearing after. >> kat: it's going to be great tv, yes. comey says this, trump will think he's lying, comey will think trump is lying. everyone will try to work it out online. people have so little trust in the government or its officials right now that stuff like this doesn't hardly even matter to the average american. what happened matters but in terms of proceedings, people don't know who to believe where they have decided ahead of time who to believe in the other person is definitely a liar. a >> eric: i want to see james
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comey tell the court that donald trump lay down him -- leaned on him and that would be close to impeachable. and then explain why he didn't talk about when he was asked about it in front of senate hearing. >> katie: i think we should back up to the idea of the white house trying to stop the testimony from going forward. they should want james comey to testify. the president is going to send a threatening message on twitter to say james comey better be careful about tapes, well, let's hear james comey's side of the story. jim comey also has to look at his testimony from early may, may 3, and reconcile what he said. he said nobody at the justice department has tried to stop our investigation into russia or drop the flynn investigation. following that up -- go >> eric: he said it would be very bad. >> katie: it would be illegal
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at the fbi has never done anything like that. andrew mccabe also said nobody ever, no one in the white house, no one in the justice department has tried to impede the russian investigation. i think we are getting at ourselves when it comes to what we think is going to say we should let him talk about the things he'll say. >> eric: what is scary is, the intel chiefs, in the day they were secret, below the radar. meanwhile, james comey, john brennan are all becoming household names. this is dangerous. >> michael: i think it's wonderful. the more skepticism we have toward the government, the better. one of the great accomplishments of the right-wing -- and we have imported the kgb in the form of the nsa which reads all of our emails and listens to all of our phone calls. trump comes from a real estate background. you can see him having nothing to do with russia telling comey let's move on. and that's going to be twisted.
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>> kat: i agree that the distrust is a good thing. >> eric: you can have a healthy distrust, and i do. i am with you on the nsa. i think snowden was a hero, not a traitor. i would love to see our intel chiefs under the radar, quietly investigating, speaking. on foreign bad guys, not americans. >> eboni: i agree, eric. i spent a long time defending jim comey because i know people who work for him and have great things to say about him but i think he got into the wrong gig. maybe he should have ran for office or something. it seems to me he wants a bit of a public profile. >> katie: we have all of these politicians dragging people like james comey in front of congress to testify now they they do is ask them political questions and demand answers. >> eboni: at this point he's being dragged in bed before that, james comey marched out
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there because he felt the need to update the american people on what was going on with hillary. >> eric: even before that, he was an investigator on one of the clinton -- whitewater. the u.s. holding massive military exercises off the korean peninsula after a successful anti-intercontinental missile test. will the show of force push kim jong il to back down? stay tuned. (vo) when i brought jake home, i wanted him to eat healthy. so i feed jake purina cat chow naturals indoor, a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. made specifically for indoor cats. purina cat chow. nutrition to build better lives. depend silhouette briefs feature a comfortable, sleek fit. as a dancer, i've learned you can't have any doubts. because looking good on stage is one thing.
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>> eboni: many are saying the u.s. is sending a clear message to kim jong-un. two carrier strike groups launching a show of force today conducting military exercises with japanese navy ships. according to the military, 12 warships and to carrier air wings are involved. they come two days after the u.s. military successfully shot down a intercontinental missile. michael, let's start with you. >> michael: i don't think this is a loud and clear message at
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all. we have been sending them ambiguous messages. you had president trump pricing kim jong-un, saying he would like to talk to him, and then you have other members of the administration saying we are done talking. contradictory messages but we don't know what they're going to be doing there's a lot of smoke and mirrors. we have seen something like this, this has gone back. in the '70s, the americans wanted to prune a tree on the dmz and the north koreans chopped it up. we launched operation paul bunyan. we came back with troops and ships and pruned the tree and left the stump. this has been going on for decades. >> eric: i think it's new. you don't think it's new? donald trump is commander-in-chief. 59 tomahawk missiles into syria. he has put three aircraft
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carriers in the region. six destroyers will help those three strike groups. cruisers, aircraft. 96 vertical missile launchers. each one of these carrier strike groups typically travels quietly with submarines as well. these are nuclear vessels. look at those pictures. >> kat: and sending a message that this is us trying to start a war. >> michael: we have been engaged in military exercises in south korea since he '70s. they are like, we are basically threatening us. >> eric: one was the last time you had three carrier strike groups? >> michael: they have nukes. >> eric: this is not an exercise. >> michael: know, the idea that we are going to say shut up
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and provoke them, it's not that simple and there's no way. everyone in the administration has agreed that any strike in north korea will have catastrophic consequences. they left 10% of their population starve so they have no respect for human life. >> katie: if the united states launches any kind of real military action against north korea, they will retaliate against south korea. they say they are developing a missile that can hit the western coast of the united states. that's obviously not true we have ways to stop their missile tests. even though the ships are just sitting there, i'm glad the ronald reagan is there. >> eric: michael, we have intel, very good intel. if they load a nuclear warhead into one of those icbms, even one that doesn't have the range
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to hit the u.s., certainly hit south korea, say japan. we don't do a preemptive strike? >> michael: i am certain president trump sat down with the chinese president and figured out what's the line? we don't want to be like obama with syria where there is a lin line. we don't want to tell north korea what the line is. >> kat: he is having such a good time right now showing off. he doesn't care what other people do. people say people are starving. he says so what? he does not care at all. he believed he was the sexiest
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man. i >> michael: they boast they are a shrimp among whales. it's a source of pride. >> eboni: it's a special kind of crazy. when we circle back, we'll have the new appalling behavior in the wake of kathy griffin's trump beheading video. did you know 90% of couples disagree on mattress firmness? enter sleep number... she likes the bed soft. he's more hardcore. you can both adjust the bed for the best sleep of your life. save $700 on the temperature balancing i8 bed. ends sunday. go to for a store near you.
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behavior. ken jennings is mocking reports that president trump's 11-year-old son saw a photo grade he treated. donald trump, jr., he shot back tweeting "it takes a real man to take on an 11-year-old." jim carrey is standing by kathy griffin saying "where the last line of defense and comedians are the last voice of truth." you know what? i agree with jim carrey on that. i think the jokes are gross but i think it's also wonderful that we live in a country where you can make fun of and criticize your leader that way and not go to jail like you would in north korea. >> michael: i am a humorist and a north korea guy and i agree in theory.
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what was the truth behind this picture? i made all sorts of jokes about subjects i can't even mention at 5:00. the darker the joke, the more it has to land. there was no punchline there. the idea that an 11-year-old wouldn't be upset seeing his father's blood he had, that's crazy. >> kat: i don't even get what the joke was. >> eboni: it wasn't a joke. i love comedians. be provocative, make you uncomfortable. at what point do you get that slap the comedian label on anything. where is she being a comedian? >> michael: when your face is funnier than your jokes, that's when you are not a humorist. >> kat: it's going to be tough for you on the internet later. >> katie: i think donald trump junior issued the appropriate response. if you really feel like you have
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to make news by attacking an 11-year-old child, that says more about you than it does about him. >> eric: two things, obviously kathy griffin was despicable in my mind, i understand the free speech argument but when you are talking about the president, there's things you can't do. i don't think you can threaten the president. >> kat: she didn't threaten. >> eric: as i pointed out yesterday, madonna said we can blow up the white house. snoop dogg points a gun at the image of a president. >> kat: don't you look at kathy griffin and say i am free. we are free in this country. you can't worry about government retaliation >> eric: she is free to be an absolute more on. this is ken jennings, so desperate for attention, he
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attacks an 11-year-old boy. unbelievable. >> michael: there are no boundaries on the left when it comes to the trump family and that's all they have to be dealt with. >> eboni: you can have that argument but people did horrible and gross things to president obama. i saw president obama with a new scum with a target on his face and many people weren't defending or protecting his children. the kids, under 18, should be off limits. >> katie: i hope we can come to a place where you don't attack children despite how you feel about their parents. i don't think it was right for people to attack the obama girl girls. >> kat: thank you to our fox news specialists, katie pavlich and michael malice. we thank you all for watching. make sure to follow us on social
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media specialistsfnc on twitter and facebook. "special report" is next. >> bret: president trump fulfills the campaign promise, pulling the u.s. out of the paris climate accord. what it means, what people are saying, plus the epa administrator live on set. is "special report" ." welcome to washington. i am bret baier. when it comes to climate change, it appears we will not always have paris. president trump announced a short time ago the u.s. will withdrawal withdraw from the agreement. the move crosses off another item from canada donald trump's campaign to-do list. while the move has its supporters on capitol hill in small business,


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