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official report. fair, balanced, unafraid. "the story" with martha maccallum, who does not look like a toy soldier, starts right now. >> martha: breaking tonight, now the administration will get to tell it side of the story. for the very first time tomorrow. jeff sessions will do just that in front of the senate judiciary committee. there was some doubt as to whether this would be behind closed doors, we can now report tonight that it will definitely be open testimony and we will carry it live here. good evening, i martha maccallum and this is "the story" ." senators are calling for an investigation into loretta lynch after james comey revealed that she had influenced him to soften the language surrounding the whole clinton email matter. plus more questions about when the former fbi director began leaking his side of the story to
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"the new york times." does it actually go back a lot further than he has so far admitted? outs to tonight, but let's dig in with a preview of how the administration intends to handle this whole thing tomorrow. i'm joined by senior judicial analyst, judge andrew napolitano. top of the show, big story, a lot of preparation to get ready for what we will see tomorrow. first of all, what do you expect, and do you think it's wise for jeff sessions to be doing this in open testimony? >> as much as i want to hear him and is much as i know the public wants to hear them, if he had asked my advice i would say it's not wise for you to do this, you will be attacked personally and you will have to defend yoursel yourself. you are the head of the justice department and you will have to defend it, that includes bob muller. we were close to the president and the president expects you to give his version of events, which contradicts jim comey's version. what you do when those three constituencies, you, yourself,
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the justice department, and president trump have conflicting interests? what answer do you give? the democrats will start right off the back, you committed perjury. when you corrected that statement, you committed perjury again. >> martha: one of the first questions will be why did you not report that you had met with them three times? what if his answer is good? what if it is, here's the content of the meeting. this third meeting, people are saying they were on a receiving line and that it was not a meeting at all. >> andrew: the meetings in my view are either standard operating seizure or utterly harmless. that's the problem, the problem is lying to congress or, this is a more difficult one, misleading congress, one can be technically truthful and therefore not be charged with perjury, but misleading and therefore charged with misleading. he's a lawyer, a smart lawyer, the chief prosecutor of the land, he knows this, but he has
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to be mindful of it. >> martha: why now? do believe that he was going to have to testify at some point so that he wants to get it over with? because this clearly makes a whole another day of the russian news the comp administration says they don't want. speech correct. sure someone will ask him why now and my guess is the white house wants him to do thi this. the president gave his version in his style, i don't think that effectively doubled or neutralized what jim comey said, whatever you think of jim comey, there are cracks in his armor, in my view, he was credible and compelling. i think the white house believes that attorney general sessions will be incredible credible an. there are a lot of problems, he will not be speaking as the chief law enforcement officer of the land, he will be speaking as a witness in criminal investigations and fbi counterintelligence. he's limited in what he can say.
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>> martha: what if the white house is saying there's nothing there, so go ahead, go tell your story? >> andrew: that's probably the best argument they can make. i'm not sure that jeff sessions is the person to do that because of these conflicts i spoke about, but that's probably -- you will be brilliant on there. the best argument they could make. >> martha: it will become all about why didn't you disclose this meeting? it will not be about the content, they will keep driving it off the content of the meeting and to the issue of misleading. >> andrew: from the emails we are getting tonight, the democrats on the committee, some very smart ones, are salivating to go after their former colleague. he should not expect softball because he's a former member of the stomach. i think he knows that. >> martha: thank you so much, or to get to tomorrow night with you on this. as attorney general sessions perhaps for the session, robert moeller is putting together his investigative team for the probe into russia's 2016 interference. michael and andrew that you see
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here, prominent legal voices are blasting these two additions to the team. untraditional scholar warning that one lieutenant has pushed before and struck down for obstruction charges. newt gingrich also raising the alarm, calling the investigation in his mind a big witch hunt and a set up. watch him. >> comey said i deliberately leaked through an intermediary to create this counsel, who happens to be one of his closest friends. then look at who he starting to hire. these are people that, frankly, look to me like they are setting up to go after trump. people who have been reprimanded for hiding from the defense information into major cases. i think this is going to be a witch hunt. >> martha: joined me now, republican congressman sean duffy and former chief economist of president obama, professor austin, good to have both of you with us tonight.
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newt gingrich prior to this at some very positive things actually about the selection of robert moeller. now he has changed his mind, why, sean? >> you have a relationship between moeller and comey, they are best friends and he might be a star witness, but you are hiring a litigation team, a bunch of prosecutors who have given thousands of dollars to democratic candidates. if you give an investigation, let's hire investigators to see what impact russia had on the last election. it seems more like an effort to prosecute donald trump. my concern is what the hell are we investigating? we had comey and the other director both with knowledge come out and say there's no evidence of collusion between donald trump and the russians. why are we going through an investigation? why are we going through this charade of an investigation when there is no evidence that donald trump had anything to do with the russians? this is the democrats effort to undermine the election results of last november and get the
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result, which is a donald trump out of the white house. >> martha: i want to put a quote and get your thoughts on this piece. he's talking about michael, he argued in an unsuccessful appeal a sweeping interpretation of obstruction of justice. an interpretation that i criticized as overbroad. it resulted in a unanimous rejection of the supreme court, it should be a big concern. he didn't say big. should be a concern to the trump defense team. what do you think, austin? >> i'm not a lawyer, so i'm going to have to take his word for it, i know he was a very outspoken advocate for the impeachment of president clinton and has been a defender of president trump, what i don't understand about this, and what you and i talked about this in transition, donald trump had one in the first and going of the russia stuff and come up in the trump administration's
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approach -- i understand where it came from, absolutely a business approach as opposed to a washington approach, and that was shut it down, deny everything, turn over no documents. i said back then, the problem with that is that it runs the risk that the whole story and the whole investigation morphs into, instead of a nothing burger that there wasn't anything to it, it becomes all about why did you cover it up? why did you not admit this meeting? that will suck his policy agenda down the toilet. he will not be able to do anything, just as bill clinton was not able to do anything. >> martha: we were just talking about that, special counsel who was involved in this now. the more fuel -- the more you feel this fire, jeff sessions will go out there tomorrow, a whole other day of russia, russia, russia, sean duffy. saying this is contained, we are
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not going to discuss this anymore, and trying to kind of move on to get more focused on your agenda if they say they really want to do. >> the democrats in the house and the senate, the left-wing media it will continue the drumbeat of russia, russia, russia, but to your point i think they will be served well if they focus on what got them elected. talk about the economy and jobs and tax reform and health care and the security and the southern border. those are the issues that my constituents care about, they don't care about russia. that's what i think donald trump has to do. put away their twitter with regards to russia and focus on the agenda and stay silent. appearances matter, you have appearances of mueller and his team that don't look good but they will be fair and impartial. >> martha: are democrats often concerned with the bottomley issue here, whether or not there was intent on the part of anybody who is related, a satellite, to the trump campaign, because they said there's no investigation to the president. are democrats concerned with
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that issue, and are they truly concerned with figuring out the hacking and preventing future elections were being subjected to this, or is it about bringing down this president? >> for sure they are concerned about the issue of russia and i would be -- it's not exactly true to say that he said there was no evidence of collusion here, what he said was it was not his decision and that there was enough evidence that he thought there should be an investigation. by the fbi of whether there was collusion. >> martha: if democrats and republicans -- who have all said that there is no evidence of that yet -- as we all well know, the investigation is continuing, so who knows. >> they said there should be an investigation. spend what i was asking you if it's all pol attacks where the democrats are concerned and is it all about bringing the present town? >> if there is evidence of obstruction of justice, they
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will want the investigator to go after. >> martha: thank you very much, good to see you both. coming up next, politicians on both sides of the aisle demanding answers tonight after president obama's attorney general loretta lynch apparently told the fbi director james comey, can you go easy on your language when you talk about the clinton email investigation please? that mom shall report a straight ahead and then if uncontrolled saying that she is shocked by the viciousness in washington, d.c. the leftist quickly pounced on this, highlights from that here on fox news and some of the reaction to it straight ahead. plus, this story is getting crazier by the minute. the hit reality show "bachelor in paradise," no stranger to provocative behavior, but it may have gone way over the line. when we come back. ♪
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investigation. senator is joining a group of republicans demanding answers about that whole thing, lynch requested that he referred to the investigation as a "matter" instead of an investigation. live at the white house tonight, hello ad. >> republican lindsey graham is not always an ally of president trump, wants to make sure that loretta lynch now has to testify before one of the many senate committees investigating russian interference in the last election, particularly he wants to know more about the obama administration's own administration and the last election, why exactly she told james comey to call that criminal investigation of hillary clinton and her email server it merely a matter to downplay it. if comey testified that it gave him a queasy feeling and did not always follow lynch's guidance, republican peter king also wants to see if comey wrote memos on his talks with lynch like he did with his talk with
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president trump. hard to see if this had anything to do with that highly unusual arizona tarmac meeting that lynch had with former president bill clinton last june, something that kellyanne conway today teed off on. >> it goes back to the tarmac meeting between lynch and president bill clinton. it takes about 4.5 minutes, not 45 minutes to talk about golf and the grandkids, a couple of selfies included. if i think those questions will be swirled around and i think what senator feinstein did is refreshing, the democrats say they say russian more than they say america. they are obsessive about this, obstructionist. >> senate democratic leader chuck schumer says he has not heard lynch's side of the story so he's not sure if it rises to the level of dragger up to the hill to testify. he doesn't want anyone to "jump to any conclusions," something they have not gotten from schumer so far. >> martha: here now with more,
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and institute scholar and a fox news contributor, juan williams cohost of "the five" and a political analyst. i may get your reaction to that story first, gentlemen. what do you make it? >> to me, it's like comparing a pimple to cancer. >> martha: not so bad when it's very bad. >> already -- this is like water over the dam, it's done. i think there are a lot of people on the trump site who want to focus on lynch, clinton, and especially the character of jim comay asking why didn't he take notes, was a belated? was he essentially being used as a puppet by the democrats, but that is not nothing comparable to what is going on in terms of investigation of the president and his campaign for its ties to russia. >> martha: mark, what's your take on it? >> what you just said is not true. there's no investigation of the
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president of the united states, comey testified to that fact. that's the difference between these cases, donald trump is not, has not, and never was under investigation for criminal activity by the fbi. hillary clinton was under criminal investigation and loretta lynch aided and abetted her ability to lie about it. she repeatedly said it's not a criminal investigation, it's a security review. she said over and over and over again at her campaign, they cited the justice department saying. 2015, from hillary clinton, question, is the department of justice conducting an investigation into her email? no, it was misreported by some in the press. it was of criminal nature, that is a lie. >> martha: i do want to get your thoughts on this other. >> what you heard from jim comey was that while he was the fbi director there was no direct investigation of president trump
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personally, the campaign was under investigation and given what he set about potentially being told to back off of the investigation. that's not true! >> it's not true what you're saying! >> martha: he's talking about the fact that now they are potentially looking at obstruction of justice. there was not investigation into president trump with regards to the issue. >> it has nothing to do with russia. >> of course it does! >> that's not true. >> martha: a story coming through that chris spoke to judy and said that the president has not ruled out the idea of axing robert muller. you have to keep in mind the way that it's being presented, but he wouldn't say that it was absolutely off the table. mark, what do you think? >> here's one that we will agree 100%, you have to let the investigation go. to ask robert mueller would be the dumbest thing that
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donald trump could possibly do. donald trump is not under investigation personally, did not interfere with the russia pro, comey testified to both of those things. he did nothing wrong, he even said if my associates, my satellites did anything wrong, i want to know about it. if he did nothing wrong and he wants to find out if his satellites did something wrong, he should just let the investigation go. >> martha: it looks like they're getting concerned about the people that mueller is bringing on this one attorney who has the very broad interpretation of obstruction of justice. go back to the jeff sessions issue, the president was very unhappy with him for recusing himself, which forced him to have to put the special counsel on this case in the first place. now they are getting perhaps some cold feet about the whole thing. judge napolitano said at one point he could put himself back in charge of this thing if he wants to. >> i think your description is absolutely accurate. the problem here is it would be explosive, i say explosive, it's
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beyond explosive, because it would just tighten the attention, the anger, the partisanship around this case. i don't think it's helpful, but is not my position to say is helpful. i'm telling you this would be incendiary. >> martha: final quick thought and then we have to go. >> 100% agreement, the stupidest thing donald trump could do. >> martha: thank you, thank you very much. coming up, another violent act depicted against the president of the united states. now sponsors are flowing from a new york city theater company after it opens a scene -- performs a scene, rather depicting the bloodied murder of julius caesar, or is that man in the middle in the red tie really julius caesar? also today, critics labeling ivanka trump a hypocrite after she is shocked by the "viciousness" that has been shown to the administration. katie and matt take this one on next, stay with us. >> is it harder than he is autistic to the things that you want to do, because of what
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very unusual, about military readiness. sadly this comes as we learn the identity of three american soldiers killed saturday in afghanistan, they were assigned to the 101st airborne division. defense department identified them as sergeant eric houck of baltimore, maryland, sergeant william and bays of california and 22-year-old corporal dylan c baldridge, north carolina. another soldier was injured in that attack who was working with our united states troops. and "filthy liar" that are what some very harsh critics are labeling ivanka trump in the wake of claim she made earlier today when she was asked if working alongside her father at the white house is harder than she thought. watch. >> there's a level of
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viciousness that i was not expecting, i was not expecting the intensity of this experience, but this isn't supposed to be easy. my father and this administration intends to be transformative and we want to do big, bold things and we are looking to change the status quo, so i didn't expect it to be easy, i think some of the distractions and some of the ferocity -- i was was a little blindsided by on a personal level. >> martha: a lot of reaction to that today, here with us this evening, katie pavlich at townhall.com and fox news contributor and matt bennett, cofounder of third way, welcome to both of you. matt, what was your reaction to that? >> come on! her father has blown through most every barrier that was to protect the presidency against this kind of ridiculous
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behavior. when he was running for president he mocked a reporter who was disabled, he attacked a gold star family, he attacked a federal charge of ethnicity. he bragged about assaulting women and he spent two years undermining the legitimacy of his predecessor on racist grounds. this guy, the gall of his family to complain about harshness in washington is off the charts. >> martha: that's the obvious argument to this, that nobody pushed the limits of good behavior, or polite behavior i guess i should say, when you look back at the debate stage and you look at the incidences that matt just cited. did donald trump kind of get what was coming to him on that front when he got to washington? >> i think there is doubt that donald trump ran a campaign that was less than above bar when it comes to the types of things he
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said and the types of things he said against certain people, that's for sure. a lot of republicans, let's not forget, criticized him for that. i think in the context of what she was asked today, she's talking about the campaign being over and her experience working alongside her father in the white house. she's an an advisor and you see in the media and the press, they're trying to drive this wedge between her and him and accusing her of being complicit, he doesn't do exactly what you want them to do, saying that she is lost on things like the paris claimant agreement and the other issue you here, you've heard her say, this administration wants to be transformative, this is the swamp and it's really difficult to understand how powerful it is until you are here and feeling it. when you start going after government programs, civil services which need reforming, those are fighting wars and people will really hold on to what they had because people like donald trump want to change it. >> martha: i think that's the translation. when i watched it again, and
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when i watched earlier today, she seems to be peeking from a very personal perspective on this, she is saying i didn't expect this when i got here. i think you look at the family and they are that moment of victory on election night, and it's like now we are going to go to washington and do what the people who elected her father to do -- were going to get that worked on. but i think she's -- also because, donald trump used to be a democrat, i think they really thought that they were going to be able to cross some lines there and the fact that there is no cooperation from the democrats is something that i think has taken them a bit of back. >> that's perhaps true, but loo look, nobody forced ivanka to become a senior administration official. she could have remained in charge of her family business and i think that the impact on her and her husband -- they chose to enter this arena and it's a rough one, particularly given the guy they are working for.
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a guy who routinely steps on his staff's attempts to direct them towards these big transformational changes that she claims she wants to make by bringing it back to the personal and petty grievances and constantly referencing the electoral college victory. >> martha: the question becomes can you separate yourself from that at some point? i think the swamp is very real. katie, you talk about -- when i think about this long investigation but it looks like we are on the cusp of, washington loves a long investigation. expensive, it employs a ton of lawyers. it's just going to keep feeding on itself because it feeds the swamp. >> it right, these investigations are the epitome of what we call this town here in washington, d.c. i think that ivanka is also referring to the pushback from the intelligence agencies, all of the leaking that we are seeing, left over obama political appointee is trying to
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sabotage his first five months in office. i do want to push back a little bit in the sense that i don't think she was complaining in the interview, i think when you listen to the rest of it she specifically says this is hard, but it's not as hard as a mom lost her son to the opioid crisis or the factory worker who lost his job. >> martha: good point. >> we are going out to talk to the real americans and do the work they elected us to do, even though there is a viciousness that we have seen in opposition to the administration. >> martha: thank you so much, thanks matt, thanks katie. a very important day in court, he died in a hazing incident and penn state, the video of his final moments was played in that court today and it was usually emotional, the details straight ahead. coming up, a new york theater can't get enough of going after president trump. speaking of that, meryl streep dressed up as the president last year, but how about this version of julius caesar? e tu brutte?
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multiple frat brothers carrying him and placing him on the couch on the left side of the tape, a visible bruise on his abdomen, he falls off the couch, they pick him up, they put him back twice. they slam him on his back onto the couch, slapping him on his side for he has already been injured. it shows him on the floor rolling around at one point in the fetal position, he gets up, heads towards the basement, steps over to people and falls down them, according to the reports. hours later to carry him up he is draped in a blackout that is said to be too small for him, his fraternity brothers, so to speak, stand around him and put their hands upon their heads, what is going on, what do we do? they put a blanket on him, finally someone called 911 according to the detective. the judge says there will not be a gag order in this case, so we are covering that very closely and we will bring you more as we get it. in the meantime, beware the ides of march, especially when the character is wearing a long red tie and a famous comb-over.
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a production of julius caesar in new york depicts the tragic roman ruler looking just like donald trump. he also has a slavic, well-dressed wife and some say the stabbing scene, which is generally pretty rough, is pretty rough here as well. delta airlines and bank of america said no more, we are pulling out of this production, no more money towards this production, some details from tonight. >> in this version of julius caesar, is that well-known businessman in and -- his name is never mentioned, but he eager to make eagle powerdrunk and ambition. an idea was shown that this could be donald trump. just like in the original play, to curb his power he is summarily stabbed to death. many who saw the preview were offended same something like this would never have flown if it was about president obama or
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george w. bush. as you said, delta airlines and bank of america, have decided to pull their funding with bank of america reading that reads in part "the public fear chose to prevent nomadic present julius caesar in a way that was intended to provoke and defend, had this intention been made known to us, we would have decided not to sponsor it. donald trump, jr., also weighed in, tweeting i wonder how much of this is funded by taxpayers? when does art become political speech and does that change things? we checked, and it turned out the national endowment for the arts is not funding this production, but oddly enough, productions foundation did found back in the 80s. some theatergoers say it's much ado about nothing. watch. >> if "snl" is going to have the right to depict donald trump in satirical ways, this is not in a satirical way, this is the
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ancient shakespeare way. >> reporter: the theater just issued a statement standing behind the production and we should know opening night of julius caesar gets underway in central park in about 15 minutes. >> martha: pretty hot up there tonight in central park. what about free speech? let's bring in ben shapiro, editor of dailywire.com and jessica, fox news contributor. free speech, they have the right to do it, "saturday night live," it's a good point that was made by that man, but is there something wrong with this, does it go over the line? >> i think it crosses a number of lines. trace mentioned the idea that if somebody had done this about barack obama it would have been the end of the world and the media, and in fact it was. a rodeo, and missouri got fired for having the temerity of putting on a mask to mike barack obama mask. it's not where that politically advantageous things from one side of another are done and people react badly to it. i think that sponsors have every
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right to pull their money, obviously, and if i were at delta i would not want the blowback, but i think is a general we should be careful about when are sometimes astroturf campaigns against particular pieces of art or particular expressions because that's a very slippery slope if we all start boycotting products because we don't like the views expressed by people who are sponsoring. >> martha: it comes on the heels of kathy griffin holding of the head with catch up on it or whatever, horrific. is this okay, jessica? >> i happen to think it is okay it's free speech first and foremost, but i wanted to remind the audience to tell them that there actually was a 2012 rendition of starring someone who looked exactly like barack obama and there was no uproar from that and certainly not from the liberal left, that everyone claims their snowflake snowflakes, it has been done before, it will be done again. i think it's particularly sensitive in light of what happened with kathy griffin just last week and i think that
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donald, jr., weighing in on this and not acknowledging that this has happened before with barack obama specifically, but the free speech importance here in the fact that we have to protect art and since we defined that it wasn't taxpayer-funded for this piece is critical. i like that both delta and bank of america did not pull funding general from the public theater, just of specific production and i think that's an important distinction. >> martha: think back to the origins of shakespeare when it was originally done, a lot of times it poked fun at people in power, it's part of the queen elizabeth was poked fun at it's always done and sort of a shuttle potomac settled shakespearean way, and this is really not-so-subtle. it really slams you over the head, like the stabbing scene in the end of julius caesar. generally i love shakespeare and the productions that they do in the past couple of years have not been well done, so i don't know if they are going to vote with their feet and not go to these things anymore. a fantastic venue, it should be well done, and unfortunately --
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very quick thought on this t-shirt. a totally different story, but a category trump t-shirt in his yearbook and it was removed by the people who do the yearbook. there he is. trump, no trump. what you think, then? >> discrimination. again, this comes down to if they are just banning people from wearing his shirts or eliminating the watermark on their yearbooks, they apparently removed from quotes. the president of the united states, this seems a little bit over-the-top to me, and buy a little bit, i mean a lot. >> i totally agree. going in full agreement with the conservative tonight. in the end this hurts liberals because it makes it look like we are all crazy and that we think that the work trump is hate speech. i would also like to add that julius caesar is actually anti-assassination, to add insult to injury there. it's going good to see you both. the show bachelor in paradise abruptly halts billing and
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speech of developing tonight, abc's hit show about summer romance just got very serious. "bachelor in paradise" has been suspended indefinitely. trace gallagher reports live from the west coast with the story. >> the show just begin taping its fourth season in mexico and was supposed to start airing them in august, which apparently won't happen. the controversy reportedly about karina lynn beals and mario jackson, both veterans of the franchise, but the misconduct complaint wasn't fired by karen, it was a producer who said it appeared that she was so drunk on the first day of filming she had no ability to consent to it jackson's sexual moves, which included the two stripping down, getting into a pool and having various encounters without
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having intercourse. the cameras were rolling the entire time. after the complaint was filed, warner bros. shut down production and issued a statement that reads in part, "once the investigation is complete we will take for appropriate response of actions. if jackson reportedly said that touching and rubbing was consensual and he says she was the instigator. those what's in the videotape say it appears she is lucid and fully engaged. tmz is now reporting that she is not blaming jackson, but she is blaming the producers saying she was in a blackout state and would never have behaved like that, because she has a boyfriend. she did not explain what she would have told her boyfriend had she ended up engaged at the end of the season. the remainder of the "bachelor in paradise" contestants have been set to stay in houston, though it's unclear exactly why. >> martha: a lot there. thank you. mark, criminal defense attorney, what you make of this whole
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thing? >> one more reason to dislike these type of shows. they've got some problems here. if she alleges that she didn't consent and they created an environment which is supposed to be about relationships in a secluded and dreamy scenario, right? what it really is is alcohol with villains and enemies, so there's as much drama and took up as possible. it's reasonably foreseeable that something like this is going to happen. >> martha: a look at the video we just show before, this makes the bachelor in the battle that looked pretty. basically like an orgy. we show the pictures moments ago. this is a producer initially who brought this out and said she felt uncomfortable because it was obvious according to the original statement that this young woman was so drunk that there was no way she could consent to what was going on. how culpable are the producers who obviously, the more
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salacious this thing gets, the better it is for the show, righ right? >> they know exactly what they're doing. they know on one hand it's a wonderful tv, that's what they want, as much, and took up that they can get, on the other side they are going to my goodness, there's a lot going on here, alcohol, but let's keep going, keep it rolling. >> martha: don't they sign an agreement saying that everybody's going to be drinking, i know it will be faked on my physical, legally how culpable are the producers or the show itself? >> there is nothing in that agreement that says that we are going to facilitate and and ald rape. i have something for you, by the way. i'm happily married, but will you accept the spinal rose? >> martha: she said she had a boyfriend, in the whole idea that you're supposed to be looking for a boyfriend when you go on this trip? >> it doesn't make any sense and ensure they will fire back and point the finger.
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>> martha: in terms of what happened next, i know you suggested in the comments that you sent before that you think this might be a publicity stunt, this whole thing? >> i'm not convinced that any of this is real. we are all talking about a show -- >> martha: there was video, we know that. >> there is, but the intricacies, what's really happening. the show will continue and once they determined that everybody is cool with it, that's what's going to happen. by the way, there is precedent for this. the "the real world" cut an undisclosed amount to settle in 2012, not as much responsibility but that may happen here. >> martha: it will cost them a lot of money, no doubt about it. thank you very much, good to see you tonight. stay tuned, our quote of the night features one of president ronald reagan's most memorable moments of his presidency and it happens 30 years ago today. an interesting fact about this night when we come back.
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>> martha: on this day 30 years ago president ronald reagan delivered a speech that was seen as possibly a big, antagonizing mistake. overall, it was barely noted in the press at the time, although "the new york times" did run a story that day about scuffles between the parlous police and workers. both that and the speech were signs that big change was coming. gorbachev later wrote that he was not angry at president reagan later that day, he saw that it was named more at the west germans. here's our quote of the night, watch. >> general secretary gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you speak prosperity for the soviet union in eastern europe, if you seek liberalization, come here to this gate. mr. gorbachev, open this gate. [cheers and applause] >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this
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wall! >> martha: quite a story. we want to know your stories, so send us tweets, at @thestoryfnc. we will be back here tomorrow night, tucker is up next, we will see you. >> good evening, welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." the subject is russia in pretty much the only thing washington can talk about or respond to at the moment. sessions may strike you as a likely prudent conspirator living in alabama, an awfully long way from moscow in every sense. it doesn't matter. everyone affiliated with the administration is a suspect these days. sessions says as a mentor of ad services committee he talked on two occaon w

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