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>> welcome back. a funeral date is set for the american student who was sent home unconscious by north korea last week. a public service will be had for otto warmbier on thursday, and his hometown high school in ohio. 22-year-old died yesterday from injuries suffered while brutalized by kim jong un's regime. president trump addressed it. >> president trump: it's a total disgrace. that should never, ever be allowed to happen. and frankly, if you were brought home sooner, the result would've
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been a lot different. he should have been not president trump john mccain calls a murder. but will they pay consequences? well i appreciate the efforts, to help an art predicament has nest and help them. at least i know that china tried. greg, in the situation last night, i said this was a murder. this was a homicide committed by north korea. kim jong un and his regime should be held responsible for the heinous murder of an american, a united states citizen. >> that tweet is interesting to me. i think we're going to see the beginning of the gas lighting of north korea. he should tweet tomorrow "we are changing the executive order against assassination." and then with a little happy face emoticon, and a hashtag, say nothing more. it's refreshing to be the
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unpredictable force in this equation as an american. for so long we were the ones that were solving for x. trying to figure out the crazy people. now it's their turn to figure out what we are going to do next. i think we should target the countries that are doing business with north korea, and make sure they are not making any money and possibly losing money. just to mess with on all counts. do whatever we can to make their lives hell -- take it back to the neighborhood metaphor. if there's a creep in your neighborhood, tell your kids to stay away. that's what you do. and we are the parent here, week to tell these other countries to stay away from him. or else. >> there has to be sanctions. if not sanctions there should be repercussions. i'm confident that the president and his administration will do something about this. there are calls about restricting cap comic travel to north korea -- >> by the way, if it isn't restricted should not be already? >> there are travel warnings
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from the state department. you shouldn't go, and we can't guarantee what would happen, things like that. there's not a ban. but i guess that there could be. i'm sorry did you have a question? >> your reaction, about what the precautions should be economic and otherwise. >> the economic, you would hope that it would work. this is a regime that is willing to starve its own people. i don't know if we have any more intelligence, because it's difficult to get intelligence for north korea because it's such an opaque society, but i do think it's one way to do it. i think one thing president trump is doing in his tweet was try to set a china, because they are meeting with the chinese tomorrow, i know you tried, but you have to do something else. setting up that meeting that it's more successful. interesting to me was senator mccain. it is the man who obviously knows what it's like to be held by enemies. and tortured, and thankfully he came back to us and has been able to live a full life and give so much to his country through public service. but the fact that he is saying murder, i think that resident
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trump can utilize senator mccain's expertise and his support in order to try to push something. but then where do you go from there? i don't think a surgical strike is actually possible on nuclear weapons when they have weapons aimed at seoul, south korea, and what are the consequences of that. and containment strategy hasn't worked well. it's basically come down to the united states north korea unless the chinese decide to do something quite dramatic. i hope that they will, but i'm skeptical. >> you think that they should. jesse, your thoughts? >> i think trump came in here to do some things with the world, and do them quickly. he's tired of things getting worse and worse and worse, and i think that's why the american people elected him. i think that we basically tells the chinese, you know what, you tried but it's getting near the end and you better throw a hail mary here. because i'm going to start doing something and we are going to have to act without you.
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just to tell the chinese, you know what, we have other options. we don't have to go through you, we can go through other leverages of power. i think senator mccain's statement was incredibly persuasive, strong, i think i will add pressure to the president. i think the security team will pressure him. and i think had feels the emotion from the american people who are outraged by this. i think you can slap slap shano make sanctions, electronic warfare is obviously on the table, some of our fighter jets buzzing -- >> kinetic access questioning >> exactly, that there are a range of things we can do short of all-out war. >> one, your reflections what do you think should be permissible? >> anything can be on the table. i thought that what senator mccain said, the murder charge, is also reflected in what you are reading, gordon chang who is quite an expert in this area, that basically there has to be a severe cause for
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harming an american citizen. so what is president trump going to do? today at the white house, lots of discussion about the fact that trump said he was willing to meet with kim jong un. people were saying if he still willing to meet with this man, in the words of john mccain, murdered an american citizen? that's the question. it was not a complete answer. it wasn't ruled out. the question is, what is he willing to do. i'll tell you what he was willing to do today, he was trying to slander president obama, if this kid had come earlier, all within -- >> not a slander. >> it is a slander. what happened, ten americans were released from north rio during president obama's tenure. >> but that is such a political blasphemy against the president of the united states. to say that president obama -- >> i didn't say --
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>> i thought he was rude and clearly the father is an emotional distress. >> he has every right to say that. >> but it's not true, and it's clear that president obama -- and i think every administratio administration -- >> he didn't say president obama, why do you attribute he's only saying that. you know how i saw it? i thought that north korea north korea should've released him in time so i should've had proper medical care instead of waiting till he was in a complete coma. they set up a release, and we should have done more. >> but that's not the way came across, let me tell you. there were 17 americans detained over the course of the last ten years in north korea. three of them still there. and he's gotta figure out how to get amount of their right there stomach now. that's the priority. speak if we haven't heard from them, i think he left north korea, he's in china for now. i wonder if he gave any of this a second thought while he was there? because while he was there,
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otto's parents are going to hell, and he has a little on trying to bring basketball than attribute out if you thought of this. >> he left with a t-shirt that said ambassador rodman. >> he is the winner in all this. >> something has to be done, and i had to, new tensions flare with russia as we try to take out isis in syria. the latest on that escalating co
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this despite the fact that russia will now target american aircraft in western syria. the warning shout down a warplane that dropped bombs near u.s. fighters yesterday.
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that incident prompted russia to fly one of its fighter jets dangerously close to ours, coming within 5 feet of our spy plane in the baltic sea. greg, things are heating up. put in has basically said if you fly west of the euphrates we are coming after you. do you think he means a question mark >> it's like a bar fight in those old western movies. you don't even know who you're hitting. both russia and the united states share a common goal. can we just wait? can we wait until we eradicate isis, and then you can start maneuvering over the land. they are doing the maneuvering now, trying to figure out what is going to -- what are they keep going to control after ice is gone. isis isn't gone yet, and if we turn on each other because we have disappearance overseer, isis is going to be there longer and they're going to win. can we just wait, kill the savages first, and then we will have the bar fight. >> kimberly, we haven't actually talked about another country, and that is i
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helping them preserve syria and recreate the persian empire in their mind, that is what they wanted >> fantasy ally, everybody enjoys it i don't think they will be able to do that, i tell you what. this is a little bit of a blister on the part of russia. they've really gotten a lot of what they wanted to achieve there. they wanted to stabilize aside, they don't really care what happens in the eastern part of syria. they were able to establish an air base and have a military presence there. that's what they care about. they've been able to accomplish those goals. those of the big ticket items. do you think they are going to try to jeopardize all of that by starting to shoot down u.s. planes? not a chance. >> but that's coming pretty close. , sr., u.s. officials say that the armed russian fighter jets buzzed a reconnaissance aircraft coming within 5 feet of the aircraft.
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two u.s. officials, to me that's pretty risky. 5 feet is my height. that's not a lot. >> greg said it, russia is playing both sides right now. it's a proxy war, who will dominate the middle east. united states and saudi arabia, or russia and iran? they play both sides, they will help us fight isis while they same time fight syria and iran, talking out of both sides of their mouth. we care about fighting isis, but there will be this big power vacuum. everyone is trying to claim territory after we defeat them. i we going to let the iranians, or the syrians and the russians slide in and create -- like you said before -- this regional trade routes were these pipelines go through and business goes through, they have the access to the mediterranean. it squeezes out the kurds, and it squeezes out the saudis.
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they voted for donald trump to get out of the stuff, and all of it it looks a quickening in the middle of the stuff again. if we can stay out of this region -- because it just a mess. speak out the problems go come to his desk. >> why can't we let radical islam be someone else's problem for once? after we get rid of isis, if you want to go in and deal with that stuff, deal with it, it's your problem. >> also -- >> after we kill isis. >> and i >> and the troop levels in afghanistan, our strategy with syria and isis, where does that go in the next six months customer >> jesse is concerned with, trump said we were going to get out of this, look at afghanistan where we don't have a strategy. everyone acknowledges that. we are putting more forces on the ground, it's kind of crazy. the problem here in syria -- we don't have a strategy. let's say what it is.
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he came in to office, wasn't going to -- yes, but maybe he was bluffing you because he didn't have a strategy. that's the point. the point to me is will trump stand up to putin? prudence has right now we aren't even going to talk to the u.s. about -- >> he just shut down a syrian jet. >> that's -- >> why is he shooting on their proxy jet questionnaire >> the point is that putin is threatening to shoot anything that comes into that area of syria, including american -- >> i would like to reverse that question. is put in that stupid? and that crazy that he thinks he could actually do that and not have massive retaliation against him? >> if anybody is bluffing it is prudent. >> i stand by my first statement -- >> in the military is not strong enough to when that fight, but is he willing to make a statement and tested trump's hand and say are you really willing to do this?
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this is a threat to the world, and then you have afghanistan -- seems to me like there is a lot of stuff here out of control by a guy who came into office saying i'm going to solve this right away, no problem. >> there were no problems before, right? there is no isis before that. >> it strikes me that the allies or play way. australia isn't doing anything more. that's scary. >> there's a lot to figure out there. we've got more, a lot more. a lot of americans don't trust the media. we've got another example to illustrate why next.
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so many americans do not trust and should not trust what people here on other networks. like cnn. >> the white house press secretary is going to a point, brooke, worries just kind of useless. if you can't come out and answer the questions and they are just not going to do this on camera or audio, why are even having these briefings or these giggles in the first place?
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that's the white house. the white house. and it's just bizarre. i don't know what world we're living in right now. >> white house press secretary sean spicer responded today. >> i think that we have done a very good job of not just providing opportunities here at our daily briefing, but also making ourselves available as a staff almost 24 hours a day when it comes down to it. >> so, jim acosta, was the person that president trump called fake news, very fake new news. strategically. >> buddies answered his questions at other briefings. >> he calls on him almost every time. strategically it's the fake news media is the enemy. doesn't make sense to seed that emory on camera on a nightly and daily basis so they can just take that and treat you with that? >> i see it a different way. if you have something to share and you are in the white house, you have an obligation to talk
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and discuss with the media what's going on peered but then you have, i think the bank solution would be to have them -- you have to feel the put forward some things to be able to talk about. talk about the accomplishments. i wouldn't always be a event. come forward with ideas, give them something to write about. otherwise you're playing catch up every day when there taking shots at them. they have been pretty public and transparent saying that they are reworking their communications strategy. and their team. so maybe for a second they might not have as many briefings. president trump is somebody that tries things, he does things by a different playbook. he's not afraid to take chances or to make changes and approach things in a different way. i think we can give him the opportunity to do that, to continue the relationship with the press, and driving forward his agenda. i think it can be done in a better way, and i think they're
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trying to do that. >> the relationship between the press and the president is a pretty bad one. a lot has to do with cnn. they broken scoops, like the president likes to scoops of ice cream, is he afraid of stairs. they were involved with the fake russian dossier, and the other day they had to retract the story about jim comey was going to come out and say that the president was under investigation. there's been a whole lot of these fake news stories coming out of cnn. if you understand the animosity coming from the white house towards an outlet like cnn? >> no. >> why not? >> like you really said, it seems like you would handle it in a more professional manner, make your point. but the idea of a briefing, it seems so essential and elemental to me. what's going on here, the white house had considered doing away with the daily briefing. just doing away with it. anna got resistant, mende's resistance, from fox news
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that's not kosher, you can't do that. now they've simply tried to, i think, slowly steadily limited by saying you can't have pictures, you can't have sound, only certain people are admitted in the gaggle. i just think it's not the way to do business in a democracy, and i know that the president and many of his supporters feel that there is an unlimited amount of criticism directed at him, you mentioned toward cnn, i don't care who else is doing it. the press is not the enemy of the american people. and donald trump is not and should not see himself as some authoritarian figure who is going to trample our first amendment rights. >> i don't think is trampling anyone's rights. i just think that 90% of the news media coverage about the president has been negative. that's where the enemy line comes in. when they don't give the briefing on camera, is that to punish the media for negative reporting? are they just want to put something out there that will be eliminated on life television.
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>> i think the white house benefits by having a daily presence on television to drive their story. but i also think the media is missing a huge story. and that's because they're so much of a hyperfocus on the white house, there's an entire big federal government out there and there are not reporters every day, like dealing with transportation, labor, sometimes the epa. you can even find any story about rick perry, there's all kinds of things happening across the federal government happening very quietly, and the media isn't focusing on it because they're so hyper focused on the white house itself. so if the media wants to broaden out and do its duty to citizens and cover the federal government, get out of the briefing room and go see some of those other places. >> stephen bannon said that they weren't doing on camera briefings because spicer had gotten fatter. >> he said it was fatter, but it
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was "phat" ." it does seem like they have the opportunity of the career, and he's basically relevance. he's the most transparent leader i think i've ever seen. he's doing it without them, he's doing it on twitter. if you want to know how the president thinks about anything, just go on twitter. and that frustrates them. he dumped to them for twitter. that's his new girlfriend. they are the ex-girlfriend, and they are like why don't you look at me? i'm here. that's what this is. >> there's a lot of fish in the sea. [laughs] >> americans on both sides of the aisle actually agree on about donald trump, we will tell you what that is when we return. whoooo.
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>> a cbs poll shows the president's approval rating at 36%. the same poll shows that the same majority of publicans, democrats, and independence that he has received more criticism
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than recent presidents. what do you think? >> i think that he has, and he has unlike other presidents, they would ignore it. president trump is very open about talking about how he feels like he is being treated unfairly and his supporters hear that. i think even democrats would say, yes, that's true, because they are part of the criticism. for the white house, i wouldn't worry about the tracking poll for the next four months. i would focus relentlessly on getting a legislative way in which they think they will be able to have him sign legislation on health care before labor day, and they will be on their way to working on tax reform. if you can sign a couple of bills before october 1st, because the debt ceiling is think, i think those approval numbers will go up and obsessing about her right now instead of work focusing on legislative winds is like a dog chasing its tail. >> you have a situation where part of the decline in the president's ratings as among republicans. it was 83% in april, and now it's down around 72%. why are republicans all of a
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sudden starting to decline in support of president trump? >> i think what he touched on as he hasn't been able to drive through any legislative accomplishments the way that people expected to with the large majorities that they have. i don't put a ton of stock in these cbs polls, because they predicted hillary would win handily, predicted trump would lose north carolina, that trump would lose pennsylvania, and that trump would lose wisconsin. he won all three. i also don't understand, his approval rating is in the high 30s if you're going to believe the poll. but consumer confidence is way up. consumer optimism on home sales, wages, on the markets, things are on the right track. all of those at record highs. i don't see how that jives with his personal approval numbers. it does make sense to me. >> part of your answer -- >> 97% of the coverage is negative. russia, russia, russia. did i say russia? >> i was going to mention that.
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because a third of americans say that his approach to the russia investigation is hurting him. only 20% of republicans agree with the chair of the republican party that they should stop the investigation. you think that's the problem? >> if the problem is we are where we are, and they are going to see this through. it's unfortunate, he can't discuss all the positive things that have been happening with increased values in 4o1 kays and the stock markets and jobs, and we are hearing about that because there is a flood in the mainstream media about negative stories, 97%, and there really isn't much air or oxygen left for accomplishments, so that's when you tie this into the key medications as well, they need to get the stories out there and put forward the president's agenda is that people actually e a clear understanding of what's going on besides this whole russia storing that there is no evidence or proof. >> the president hasn't had a
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press since february. right now, america, there's a contingent that agrees that there is interference. i never hear and answer those tough questions. >> looking at the results in georgia, looks like john is getting his ossoff handed to them. [laughs] >> thanks you got that >> does popularity actually matter? could you not like trump would be okay with what he's doing if you focus on the economy and that is populated? you are going to vote for them. i don't like the guy, kind of rude, but you know what jobs, jobs, my 401(k) is doing pretty good. on employment is down. isis is gone. russia, north korea, they were all stepping back. but i'm saying -- unemployment is down right now. isis is being cornered and is
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being annihilated. they are taking any prisoners, your joy to see these guys in gitmo. their heads will be on states. >> gitmo was closed, is that right? i must have missed that. >> that was obama's promise. trump would expand it and make it a chain and put a t on it. >> one more thing is up wise man, i'm nervous about things i can't control... affecting my good credit score. i see you've planted an uncertainty tree. chop that thing down. the clarity you seek... lies within the creditwise app from capital one. creditwise helps you protect your credit. and it's completely free for everyone. it's free for everyone? do hawks use the stars to navigate? i don't know. aw, i thought you did. i don't know either. either way it's free for everyone. cool. what's in your wallet?
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2018? 2018? >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier in washington. it's 11:00 p.m. in washington and in atlanta. welcome to the prime time "special report." democrats are 0 for 5 in special elections. against the incumbent president who they say is vulnerable. under attack constantly from investigations into collusion and obstruction of justice to daily negative stories about his style, his tweets. you name it. but democrats are 0 for 5 so far in special elections. democrats tonight say all five of the candidates out perform traditional democratic turn-out in the republican leaning districts. but after spending tens of millions of dollars, they haven't won one. tonight's focus


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