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obliterated overnight thanks to an electromagnetic pulse or emp. it's not just the stuff of television, north korea yesterday tested a rocket that american officials say could be intended for use of icbm and intercontinental ballistic missile. john moore is an electrical engineer, he says the korean missile could hit the u.s. with an apocalyptic emp attack. mr. moore joins us tonight to explain how that might happen then what it might mean. thanks for coming on. you hear things about emp, explained it for us if you could just in english, what is this? what would it do? how does it work? >> it happens when somebody sets off a nuclear explosion about the atmosphere and it destroys or disrupts the electrical power grid, computers, communications. take civilization back to the
1800s. >> tucker: it disables anything electronic. are we sure this could happen? >> we're sure it could happen, it probably wouldn't disable everything but it would disable enough in our highly connected technological civilization to cause chaos that could cause tens of millions of americans to die before it's sorted out. >> tucker: tens of millions? >> tens of millions. if you have no electric power for six months to a year, you have no food delivery, you have no gasoline, you have no water, you think about that, it's pretty bad. >> tucker: you're saying it tens of millions could die without being killed by the explosion itself. just because of living in electricity free society. >> yes, exactly, the explosion would hurt everybody.
but the results of this would destroy systems that we depend on. we don't have much food it stockpiled. we don't have water stockpiled at all for most people it comes out of pipes. air conditioning, heating, you can see the problem. >> tucker: that's horrifying possibility. how are we protecting against that happening? >> we're not. there's been a commission that congress authorized starting in 2001, they've been writing reports on it. the electrical industry has been studying some ways to harden systems, but we are really not protected and nobody has done an experiment -- the last time this kind of emp happened was in 1961 when the u.s. and the russians tested the effect. >> tucker: why wouldn't this be at the very top of the priority list, if the effects are that overwhelming and
terrible? >> that's one reason i wrote my article is because everyone is worried about nuking san francisco, north korea doing that. this is far more terrible, maybe not quite as dramatic and a lot more science fiction, but part of it as the military is focused on this for a long time. but it was in the context of nuclear war, where losing the electrical grid and so on was kind of the least of our problems. >> tucker: why would it take a year if the grid were disabled to get it back online? >> if it destroyed the custom transformers on the system, we don't have nearly enough spares. they are custom-made commit takes a long time to build them come a long time deliver them. there's also control systems that would grow out. nuclear power plants would melt down, it could take a very long time to destroy our dumb
academic restore even a semblance. >> tucker: i'm going to try not to order freeze-dried food on my commercial break but i'm going to try to control myself. thank you very much. seattle slept a big tax on law-abiding gun owners saying it would promise to curb gun violence in the city. two years ago, did it work? we've got the numbers, they are amazing. anti-gun activists support the
>> tucker: in early 2015, the city council of seattle passed a gun violence tax, the tax imposed a $25 levy on every gun purchased in the city along with a five-cent tax on every individual round of ammunition. it worked in one way. a lot of gun sellers have fled from the city to the suburbs, people lost their jobs. didn't work in the intended way? it was designed to make seattle safer. that didn't happen. shootings are up significantly this year, murders have doubled. will the city reconsider its tax? joining us tonight is mark glaze, a gun-control activist and a former executive director of every town for gun safety, he joins us tonight. the point was to make seattle a safer town. the murder rate doubles. isn't this a demonstrable failure? >> in point of fact, the reason
they passed this gun tax was to try to raise some money so they could study gun violence which i think is a good thing to do. i don't think a $25 gun taxes the reason murders are up. the recent murders are up is there a couple rival gangs killing each other with guns. i hope they use the research money to good purpose. >> tucker: i'm not arguing that gun deaths are up because of the gun tax. i'm merely noting the obvious which is the gun tax didn't make the city any safer. what's the point of any of this? these studies are calling for, gun control itself doesn't make the city safer, will what's the whole point? >> in fairness to the folks in seattle, at don't think they imposed a gun tax thinking that would be a silver bullet that would stop gun violence in the city. what they were responding to is that it made it impossible for the federal government to study gun violence. they banned the use of federal dollars for that purpose. they were trying to raise money to raise for that purpose. >> tucker: of the whole point
of all of this, the whole point of the studies is to reduce gun violence. and it's doubled. it's hard to take people like you seriously if you don't let the data drive your conclusions. the data here are really crystal-clear. this didn't work, why would you still supported? >> nobody in seattle thought that putting a $25 tax on the sale of guns was going to solve gun violence. what they thought it would do. >> tucker: yes they did, that's what they said. they didn't say it was good to end all gun violence but they said it would make it a safer city. the city got more dangerous. why are we the only show calling b.s. on these people. they wouldn't return fox's called, they didn't want to be held accountable for their dominance in the fact that their idea didn't work. why not go back and compare the claims the results. were doing that and look at the failure. let's try something else. >> i think they should have
returned your calls. if the gun tax doesn't work and give a little bit of time and hope this the gang violence subsides, let's not do the gun tax, let's look at other things that we actually know the public wants and are effective. for example, in gun violence most often, the guns gangs numbers used are semiautomatics with high-capacity magazines which is the same kind of gun that was almost used to assassinate steve's police, get rid of those birds were not try that? >> tucker: a relatively small -- these guns may look scary, i know they spin you guys into a frenzy because they are terrifying looking. but they don't actually drive the problem. again, you're wrong. >> gang violence very often involves those guns. that's what they use it seattle, you're absolutely right
throughout the biggest part of the problem. the biggest part of the problem is handguns and we know one of the things we could do to reduce gun violence from handguns which is to impose a universal background check for everybody who buys a gun no matter where you can pass a criminal background check. we know that would save a lot of lives but the gun lobby stops us from doing that. >> tucker: we don't know that. anymore than we know the seattle contacts would reduce violence in seattle. here's the truth, there are about as many firearms as there are people, right around 300 million. as long as there are that many firearms, there are going to be the attendant problems. i like firearms, there is downsides too. the only way you can control gun violence with gun control is confiscate all guns that's probably what you would like to do. why not be the one guy honest in your business to say that? >> my dad was a gun dealer, a group shooting guns just like you and i am in theory open to the idea >> tucker: your dad
was a gun dealer? >> he was. what does he think of the fact that your gun control guy? he believes what i'm about to say, in theory we are to be able to have many guns as we want in this country but we run a pilot project on that proposition and it has failed catastrophically. i think you're absolutely right. unless we have dramatically fewer guns and we make them harder to get it's impossible to craft laws to stop all the bad guys but let the good guys do what they want. >> tucker: you also know that states with massive levels of gun ownership have relatively low gun ownership. there is no connection between the number of guns people have, that's just not true. you would have to take guns away from people who don't want to give up their guns, what does that look like?
>> two points about that. the states that have the weakest gun laws tend to have the highest rates of gun crime though they may be lower in absolute numbers. >> tucker: that's not true. >> it is true. matt damon said when he was coordinating his movie, he said i've been to australian people are pretty happy. they have not just after a mass shooting, they not only banned assault weapons, they had the government buy them back and they have not had a mass shooting since. having to think -- >> tucker: they didn't buy them back, they confiscated them by force. you had no option, it wasn't voluntary. if you tried that in this country you would have a civil war in about 10 minutes. is that the plan? to take people's guns by force what's marked just say so. let us know what the plan is. >> does a lot of things we have to try and were not trying them. an organization we worked with called guns down and we asked how many likely voters would support a program where you are what required to turn in your
assault rifle to the government if the government would buy it back, it had over 65% support including among gun owners. >> tucker: i think the 35% would be pretty tough to crack and i would be there by the way. an inmate opens fire on to sheriff's deputies, that's bad enough. now new information shows that suspect could still be in prison and would have been except for bad government policy. our investigation next. pro-life doctors in illinois ordered to provide information on abortion to their patients whether they want to are not. will talk to an obstetrician who was fighting this law is a violation of stay out front with tempur-pedic. our proprietary material automatically adjusts to your weight, shape and temperature. so you sleep deeply, and wake up feeling powerful. find your exclusive retailer at tempurpedic.com
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pistol of deputy wade bassett and chad both him and deputy wendell bowen as he fled. he shot himself before police could we apprehend him. that's horrible enough, obviously. now an investigation finds that he should never been free to commit the shooting at first place. he should have bn behind bars. ed henry has been on this all day, he joins us now with more. >> attorney general jeff sessions has been reversing obama era crime policies by making the case last eight years, soft sentences lead with more violent crime. he's been met with scorn from the left, many liberals believe these charges are simply nonviolent drug offenses. in this case in tennessee, it suggests not so much. the now deceased criminal who shot to police officers, and 2003 he was arrested for conspiracy to manufacture and distribute meth. 15 years in prison. at the tail end of the obama years, the drug sentences for 6,000 inmates were slashed, to cut down on over grounding, to be fair to more drug offenders
in parts because perceived racial disparities. fast-forward to earlier this month, he gets arrested again. look at the rap sheet, kidnapping, possession of a controlled substance, domestic assault, multiple counts of reckless endangerment by a motor vehicle and multiple counts of evading arrest. he stole the gun of a courthouse deputy, shot two deputies who were wounded but thankfully survived. he shot and killed himself. this is one criminal but it makes you wonder how many of the other 6,000 people released early could return to crime. >> tucker: how exactly did this guy get out? >> to be clear with the facts is october 2015, the u.s. sentencing commission a bipartisan independent agency that was not part of the obama administration, this was not the obama white house lit at least 6,000 inmates. it happened in a time when president obama was separately granting clemency to out the mic and dozens of other drug
defenders who were nonviolent. it was deputy attorney general sally gates who assured the public it would be fine. that sally gates who was more recently fired by president trump after warning the white house about michael flynn's ties to russia. in 2015 after the release of all those inmates, she said in part under the commission's directive, federal judges are required to carefully consider public safety in deciding whether to reduce an inmate's sentence. that cararly did not work out in the case of michael bell. former attorney general eric holder wrote a memo that such to cut down on the number of drug offenses that would cut down on mandatory minimum sentences. defendant should be charged with most theories do make serious provable charge as possible, let's see if that clint set up. >> tucker: there's so much going on, he spent a while untangling this and it's fascinating.
are you a physician, do you think your job is to treat people instead of killing them. if you live in illinois, tough luck, you're not wanted there. that state passed a law that requires all doctors, pharmacists, and pregnancy centers to assist pregnant women in getting abortions, even if they are morally opposed to killing. dr. robert well worth is an obstetrician, he's fighting this new law and he joins us now. i just want to make sure were not mischaracterizing this, you're a pro-life position, you think abortion is the taking of a life. if you are morally opposed to it. you are now required by the state of illinois to facilitate it or to recommend a place to get one if asked? >> that's correct. we're supposed to counsel the patient on on the purported benefits of abortion which of course there are none appeared to mike.
if asked to provide a referral for an abortion, provide a list of nearby abortion facilities where the vulnerable woman can procure the abortion. a clear violation of our conscious rights. >> tucker: obviously, someone who is sincerely pro-life would not do that or wouldn't want to do it for sure, what if you don't do it? what if you disobey? >> there can be sanctions and penalties and i suppose eventually removal of your medical license. i guess that's where this is heading, isn't it down the road. that's the concern, that's why we are filing suit against the state of illinois, the thomas more society to really stop this egregious attempt, an end around
if you will of the existing conscience laws that exist. on the federal and the state books. as you recall, i'm an obstetrician, by my very nature i have two patients. i have a mother and a baby. it's ludicrous to think that i could refer my patient to be executed and the other to be mortally wounded for the rest of her life with a sense of regret. we are trying to do the exact opposite, we are trying to offer an alternative to that terrible decision. over the last 24 years -- >> tucker: i'm sorry doctor, go on. >> over the last 24 years, i've had the opportunity to deliver thousands of babies, take care of thousands of mothers,
counseled many hundred of mothers are contemplating abortion, and take care of mothers who were post aborted. i've also been involved with taking care of the complications in the emergency room of the abortion procedure. i can tell you the horrific stories. i cannot and will not comply with this law that is a complete affront to my conscience beliefs, my firmly held religious beliefs that life is sacred. >> tucker: also the hippocratic oath, doodle do no. >> i became a physician to help people, not to harm them. >> tucker: it exposes the entire pro-life bumper sticker as a lie that abortion should be between a woman in a position,
here you have politicians getting directly into medical practice and telling you as a physician what you are allowed to say to a woman in your office which is exactly what they say they are against. were out of time and i hope those police aren't coming for you for your civil disobedience which i applaud vehemently, good for you, thanks for joining us. in explaining what's going on in your state. why is hasbro suddenly claiming a g.i. joe, "my little pony," and other obviously pink or blue toys are in fact a gender neutral. will have to wait for top that to
show in the middle of a cultural revolution makes it hard to pick the weirdest news story of the day, so we bring in an expert panel to do is for us, katie freight is manager at olympic media and host of intelligence reports on the weekend, they both join us. trish, you are first, blow our minds print >> i have a good one. you know the toy company hasbro they make things like a g.i. joe toys come on "my little pony," the ceo has come out and said were not going to recognize gender anymore. we have managed to delete this because we have risen above the gender issues and we know longer recognize it in our toys. for example when they print out the revenues they don't have to say this came from the boys section, this came from the girls section. when you as a consumer go shopping you don't necessarily look for boys toy or a girl's toy anymore, you just look for a toy. my thought on this is this is a company that is somehow trying to reengineer human nature.
the reality is, i've got two little girls and one little boy. my girls gravitate to "my little pony" more than g.i. joe. i would say for the most part and there are toys that may be a chemistry sets that boys and girls both play with. in in the overall market place r you to have girls toys and boys toys. for you to try to reengineer that and somehow think that the boys should play with the pink sequence and the like that is going a little too far. this is a man who probably needs to focus on his business more than reengineering human nature. >> tucker: it used to be a proud rhode island company, that is bizarre, can you top that? >> i just have to say your seat in d.c. is pretty comfortable i don't think i'm good to leave. but you may notice that america's data after the mistrial in his sexual assault case is ready to get right back
to it. comedian bill cosby who has been accused by over 50 women of a very sexual misconduct is going to host a series of town halls on telling people how not to get accused of sexual assault. now kind of like if o.j. simpson held seminars on the virtues of marriage counseling, a lot of people are really, really unhappy that cosby is doing this. it's going to be a minimum of five states, it's a free and it's starting in july. if you want to hear it from the man himself on how to avoid sexual assault allegations, go find bill cosby. >> tucker: it really is the donner party goes to begin, too much. "my little pony" was awesome. it wasn't just ten years ago and liberals were admitting the country needed to curtail illegal immigration.
>> tucker: don't miss other fox and friends exclusive. >> i just heard for the first time that obama knew about russia before the election. and did nothing about it. the cia gave him information about russia a longtime before the election. and i hardly see it. this is an amazing thing to me. if he had the information, why didn't he do something about it. but you don't read that. >> tucker: catch our all-new interview with the president on "fox & friends" at 6:00 a.m. it's nice to have people around
who remember what things are like the day before yesterday. he's a lifelong liberal, but honest and has an excellent memory. reminding democrats that they are not always advocates for illegal immigration. just ten years ago, the democrats pressed the wages of low skilled workers. it is a law, not a theory. he admitted as much back in 2006. immigration reduces the wages of domestic workers. it will reduce the inflow of. at the time the democratic party cared about things like wages. they were the party of working americans. people at no what the price of
gases. people who take the bus, or drive tesla's or nobody in between. that's why people don't vote for them anymore. night at eight. tonight. "the five" is next, don't miss it. hello everyone, i'm dana. it's 9:00 in new york city and this is "the five" ." >> former fbi director james colby, colby testified before congress that he told him not to use the word investigation while discussing.