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president trump has a copy and i hope you'll get a copy, too. let's learn from the past so we don't repeat the egregious mistakes and let us look to the future with solutions how to save our democracy. get your copy now and have a fabulous weekend. leland: republicans lose another vote as they try to replace obamacare. and they're twisting arms. what the president said this morning as he tries to whip votes. elizabeth: and democrats are pointing fingers at president obama and his handling of russia's meddling in the 2016 election. leland: and north korea says, it's quote, the biggest victim in the death of college student otto warmbier. he died monday. >> what will the white house do to retaliate. great to be with you on this
saturday, nice to be with you at home. america's news headquarters is here for the next two hours. i'm leland vittert. elizabeth: i'm elizabeth prann. five senate republicans say they cannot support the health care draft as written. changes are likely now between now and next week when leadership wants to vote on it. and on capitol hill, the republicans are facing tough negotiations within their own ranks. hi, garrett. >> the republicans hold 52 seats in the senate and may need 50 votes to pass, but right now five g.o.p. senators are saying it's a no unless changes are made. >> ted cruz wants states to have more flexibility to buy and sell. and ron paul wants mo-- rand pa wants more repeal of obamacare. >> and these and the health care
in the last ten years-- here is the second of this, this bill passes, premiums going down, there isn't anything in this legislation that will lower premiums. >> apart from those five, there are a number of other republicans who still haven't decided whether or not they'll support the g.o.p. bill. there's a possibility that more republicans could move over to the no column on monday when the congressional budget office plans to release the score, what the plan will cost. the senate is well aware of the channels, but is optimistic they'll be able to work it out before a vote next week. >> this is not a perfect bill and i understand senator paul's concerns and i share many of them, but we have to deal with the art of the possible here. it's not going to be something each one of us are going to like, standing alone, but i think this is the best we've been able to do with the hand we've been dealt and we can't-- we can't afford to fail.
leland: behind the scenes, the white house is aggressively working to get this bill passed and on twitter, president trump continues to weigh in as well. this morning he tweeted, democrats slammed g.o.p. health care proposals as obamacare premiums increase over 100%. remember keep your doctor, keep your plan? the president is also banking on his skills as negotiator in chief and yesterday he said he's pretty confident he'll be able to get four five senators against the current bill. elizabeth: thank you very much. congressman brian babin of texas talked about the freedom caucus, and speaker ryan hopes to unify the party and now the senate may not be able to get their bill passed. let's bring in the representative and find out if it passes in the senate, could it pass in the house and before we get to that. thank you for joining us, sir. >> great to be with you this morning. >> before we look forward, i want to rewind a little bit because you did make that
decision and we heard senator cronyn say it's not a perfect bill, but we cannot afford to fail. is that part of yours when you said you would pass the bill in the house. >> some of my best friends are in the freedom caucus. and i vote with the freedom caucus, 99.9% of the time. and they do a platform to fight obama's workings, but for my district, my 750,000 people it's a good thing to do what i'm doing and i'll tell you the truth, elizabeth, i would have a hard time voting for this bill as well that we've soon, that the senate has. elizabeth: why is that? >> well, it's got a $50 billion bailout in it. it doesn't incentivize continuous coverage and the absolute biggest thing that i hear from my constituents is that the premiums are too high,
that the deductibles are way up there, so, in fact, so high that we can't -- most people can't even use their-- >> you would agree with senator dean heller, that this isn't bringing down the premiums? >> now, let me just backtrack a little bit and say this is a good bill in terms of rolling back what we have. obamacare is an abject disaster, it's in a death spiral, people are losing their coverage right and left. or they're electing not to go into it because it doesn't do them any good. and so-- >> sometimes they only have one provider. >> only one provider. many, many counties only have one provider which is bad for families, working class families in my district. elizabeth: so we talk about the five holdouts. what type of leverage do they have, do you think, in the senate? because there needs to be some changes before the bill gets to the house and there's any chance of it getting through the house? >> let me say this, elizabeth. i'm optimistic.
the democrats said we wouldn't get anything out of the house and we did. they said the senate's not going to have anything and we're already talking about what they're proposing. this is-- we're still in an early stage. there's going to be a lot of exchange of ideas and first, we don't have room to play with as your last question was. we've got 52 votes, plus the vice-president in the event of a tie. so we can't lose, you know, more than a couple of votes. elizabeth: that being said, people were critical that it was drafted behind closed doors so you would have more votes if it wasn't? >> i'm not sure how accurate that is. now, i think the public probably didn't see what they were talking about, but i think there was some input and listening sessions. we had them in the house and i wish we'd had more, but that's the way it goes. but i think we have a very good opportunity, let me tell you, anything that we wind up getting before us is going to be better than what we have today. elizabeth: are you worried about that cbo report on the senate
bill? >> i'm not worried about the cbo. look what they predicted about obamacare, totally inaccurate. when think say that 24 million or 25 million, 23 whatever it was the last cbo report in the house version, a lot of those are going to be people that just elect not to have the coverage because the mandate is not there anymore and they'll save the money and roll the dice and take a chance and hopefully i won't get sick, but the lack of innocecentivization in the sena plan is going to have to be remedied because you cannot be sick or injured in an ambulance going to the hospital when you decide to start buying your insurance. that will drive premiums up and we'll have to stop that. elizabeth: we don't have a ton of time. i have two questions i want to bridge into one. a, are you willing to work over the august recess? b, are you willing to hear from the other side and try to get their votes. >> absolutely, i'm willing to work over the recess, whatever it takes to get this thing
passed because we've been campaigning and promising to repeal and replace obamacare for so long. as far as the democrats, i would absolutely welcome their input, but i think they're more interested in seeing the republicans fail than to give the american people something better than what they've done for the last seven and a half years and obamacare, we were lied to, if you like your doctor, your policy, you can keep it. that didn't happen. and they keep talking about folks losing their insurance under the republican plan. well, millions have lost their insurance under the obamacare. so it's going down the tubes. insurance companies are bailing out, as you said, there's not, but one choice in many, many counties. so, we have to get something passed and i'm optimistic that we're going to put our heads together and get this thing and pass something that is going to be something that will give us freedom of choice and get these premiums down. i'm optimistic. elizabeth: i appreciate your
optimism, representative. because we're having a big week and see the cbo report because there are republicans holding out. >> good to be with you. elizabeth: thank you. keep it here on fox news channel for the developments ahead of the senate vote on health care. tomorrow, media buzz at 11 a.m. eastern. howard kurtz will talk with sean spicer about the white house's take on the bill. we'll talk to republican senator luther strange tomorrow in eastern hour about the parties. brit hume is filling in for chris wallace and he'll sit down to talk about the upcoming health care showdown. check your local listings for time and channel. good interviews, you don't want to miss it. leland: and i suspect this issue will probably come up tomorrow on the sunday shows. president trump going back to one of his favorite twitter targets, former president obama. hitting him hard after a washington post report said that the obama administration knew
about the russian hacking ahead of the elebs and -- election and didn't do much about it. kristin is at the white house. >> for months president trump has been reluctant to definitively say whether or not he believes that russia did indeed meddle in the 2016 election, but in a tweet last night, not only did he seem to confirm it, but he also placed the blame squarely on his predecessor. he said, quote, just out, obama administration now about meddling by russia. didn't nothing about it. why? he's referring to washington post report out back in august, three months before the election, president obama received a highly classified cia report with evidence of russian president vladimir putin's direct involvement in the cyber attacks and that they were intended to hurt hillary clinton and help mr. trump. over the next five months the obama administration apparently
went back and forth what to do, how to respond. according to the post worried about seen as kind of tipping the scales on such a politically charged issue and right before the election. in the end they settled on sanctions on a covert cyber attack which the next administration would be responsible for carrying out. but president trump says it was all too little, too late. >> well, i just heard today for the first time that obama knew about russia a long time before the election and he did nothing about it, but nobody wants to talk about that. the cia gave him information on russia a long time before they even, you know, before the election. and i hardly see it. it's an amazing thing. >> now, about an hour ago, former president obama's deputy national security advisor, ben rhodes, weighed in on twitter and he really shifted the blame to president trump's response. he says, quote, what did trump say when obama administration
issued statements in early october on russia meddling? he spent weeks calling the election rigged, but another former senior obama administration official told "the washington post" that he believes we sort of choked in their response to russian interference in the u.s. elections. leland. leland: stunning admission there. kristin fisher, north lawn of the white house. kristin, thank you. let's bring in tom from the washington examiner for more insight. put aside for the time being, this is on unnamed sources that president trump says he doesn't like. put up perhaps the answer to president trump's question why the administration didn't do anything. this from "the washington post." the assumption that clinton would win contributed to the lack of urgency. shocking. >> very shocking. look, and i think there are a couple of other factors there, that play into this. we've seen in recent weeks, the
questioning, why the dnc didn't hand over their server to the fbi. one reason why might be there was something there they wanted to hide and that the white house pressuring president putin, the white house was worried if they put pressure on, he might do more so maybe there was some fear there, but we get into the weeds there, but look, there is-- this is the wilderness of spy world and he think the only underlying issue is president obama did very little to counter significant acts of russian aggression. leland: and you saw that. the only thing that ben rhodes could do is push back on what president trump said, not say, hey, look, we did this, this and this and take a hike. this is the quote that kristin fisher was talking about, a senior administration official who was familiar with what was going on an anonymous senior obama administration official quoted the story, offered this brutele quote, it's the hardest thing about my entire time in
government to defend. this person says, i feel like we sort of choked. well, no kidding! >> yeah, but we sort of choked? they choked the whole time with russia and the stupid reset from the beginning. you look at putin, it's about old school deterrents and things you cannot do. leland: and backing it up. >> and a piece in the examiner yesterday talked about specific incidents, not just about the syrian redline, but mh-17 they shot down a passenger airline with europeans and then obama went late to the outside rose garden comments he made about it and let the russian intelligence thwarted rebels and russians with them walk around drunk around. and what does that say about president putin, sets up this track record. leland: this brings up an important question, what does
president trump do about rush russia. they're not stopping. we have pictures from the u.s. air force, russian planes, at the time were armed, which is unusual, intercepting and flying very close to american jets in international air space. clearly testing the united states, clearly testing president trump. why does this president, a republican president, seem so loathe to call out russia and to be tough with russia, ordinarily a perfect punching bag for an american president? >> well, because that's why we have these investigations to a degree. it's concerning that we're not doing more and you know, there are risks, but again, if you look at the track record of history, you can counter the russians by taking substantial steps and we look at 2008, georgia, the invasion of georgia. president trump sent an unarmed u.s. military t-130 in, and essentially challenged the russians, you want to shoot down an american aircraft, they
didn't and they came to the table. you can counter putin, in terms of aircraft, why aren't we sending up f-18's to high value escorts. we have better planes and we'll counter them with radar lock. leland: those are interesting questions, one wonders when they're going to be put to the president and if he feels he's being challenged at this point by president putin. tom, appreciate your insights. elizabeth. elizabeth: a detainee at the u.s. military prison in guantanamo bay has been charged in connection with terror attacks in his home country of internecia. the bombing at a bali resort killed 200 people 88 australians and seven american tourists. he's been held at the american prison in cuba for a decade. they say he was the leader of a terror group in indonesia. australian survivors and
american victims continue for justice. >> it's hard to see it executed. >> he deserves to be brought to justice, if it's the death penalty, so be it. >> like to pull the trigger, make them happy. >> responsible for the murder of 202 people including 88 australians, should be prosecuted. should receive the severest of punishment and never be free. elizabeth: he's charged in a 2003 bombing outside a marriott hotel in jakarta. no trial date has been set quite yet. leland: security forces in saudi arabia say they have disrupted a major terror plot. a suicide bomber blew himself up during a police raid on a suspected hideout in mecca, the holiest city in islam, the saudi
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>> fox news alert. as major fires burn right now, in california, arizona, new mexico, and nevada and utah. all fueled by bone dry conditions and record-setting heat. in utah, growing wildfire torching homes and communities, that's happening in the southern utah skitown, that fire has now doubled in size due to high winds and extreme heat. the fire so far has destroyed 13 homes and residents were asked
of the governor of arizona to declared a state of emergency, to help fund the fight against wildfires in that state. in california, firefighters are making progress against the five day old forest fire in the san bernardino mountains although weather is so hot making the fight difficult and fueling all the fires. >> well, missouri adding its name to a growing list of states suing the pharmaceutical industry over the deadly open void epidemic. and what these states hope to accomplish. >> the scale of the epidemic we face is startling. >> missouri's attorney general josh holly filed a scathing new lawsuit against three popular drug manufacturers, arguing they committed fraud by lying to doctors and consumers about how addictive and deadly their prescription drugs can be. >> every parent disabled by drug
abuse is a tragedy. every child lost to this epidemic is irreplaceable. >> missouri named purdue, jansen and endo pharmaceuticals in the lawsuit one of the largest, saying they helped create the biggest drug abuse epidemic they've ever seen, 500 opioid deaths in 2015 alone. >> something a parent should never have to do is bury her own child. >> she says her high school child died from a prescription opioid addiction. >> we never got to see her graduate from high school or college or walk her down the aisle. if it sounds like a nightmare, it's definitely been a nightmare for our family. >> and fox news reached out to named in the lawsuit. jansen says they've operated in
the best interest of patients recording our opioid pain medication. missouri is not the first to take action, it joined a list of states, counties and cities investigating or suing drug companies amid a nationwide epidemic of opioid abuse. new government data just released shows there were 1.3 opioid related e.r. visits in 2014 alone, a 99% increase compared to 2005. elizabeth: that was matt finn reporting. and president trump has repeatedly bolstered efforts to combat. and insist the repealing and replacing the law to help with substance abuse treatment. leland: rocky tensions with north korea strained even more after the death of college student otto warmbier. what options does the united
states have to respond now. and what exactly is in the senate health care bill. what you need to know before it goes to the chamber for a vote. protesters there being arrested. they don't like what's in the bill. >> because obamacare is a direct attack on the middle class and american families deserve better than its failing status quo.
>> the critics this week say the obama administration was too for giving with the russian interfering and both sides of the aisle are expressing frustration. >> alison with more. >> the first people can go those questions were unsurprisingly republicans, but some democrats weren't far behind. representative, a democrat from california told the hill, the obama administration's response to russian meddling was
inadequate in the months leading up to the election. he said, quote, i think they could have done a better job informing the american people of the extent of the attacks. republicans jason chaffetz had this to say. >> the whole russian dustup the democrats are kicking dirt on and trying to create more and more smoke out there. this happened on president obama's watch. he was the president of the united states. the homeland security department tried to come in and help the democrats and guess what? the democrats refused their help and so, as tray gowdy pointed out, why is it the victim of a crime wouldn't let the law enforcement, in this case, homeland security help them. what was going on was evidently a hack. it doesn't make any sense. >> all of this is in response to a washington post article that claims that the obama administration knew about the meddling months before. and the post stories shows that the obama administration, quote,
failed to deter russian aggression. mccain went on to say the current administration has not done enough either and to push for legislation that would sanction russia. almost two weeks ago, the senate overwhelmingly passed legislation to strengthen current sanctions against moscow and add new ones on individual engaging in corruption. the trump administration is lobbying against parts of the bill arguing it could preempt parts of the bill, that includes sanctions for iran and russia. elizabeth: thank you, alison, appreciate it. leland: the saber rattling continues as north korea remains defiant. if anything, they're doubling down, saying they are the biggest victim in the death of otto warmbier and testing a new rocket engine. let's bring in the senior research fellow for east asia studies at heritage foundation. nice to see you, sir. despite the tough words from the president, from the secretary of state, from the secretary of
defense, north korea's yet to pay any real price since the trump administration has come into power. >> i'm afraid that's true and that's in part because the geography of the region hasn't changed. the end of the day seoul, the capital of south korea, the largest city, is within artillery range of north korea and north korea knows it, they have forward deployed much of the military. acting against north korea opens up turning south korea-- >> there are no options unless of course, you listen to dennis rodman who got back from a visit to north korea. >> take a listen. >> people don't see the good side about that country and people don't see him as, as a friendly guy, but if you actually talk to him. >> when you see him, do you see a different guy? >> oh, yeah. >> does smile, does he talk, is he open?
>> we always talk, right? we sing karaoke, fun, ride horses. leland: okay. so we all know that dennis rodman lives in an alternate reality to the rest of us, that's a given. this is bizarre. >> oh, yes. well, i can only imagine what kim jong-un thinks of the united states as he chats with dennis rodman. he's got to be wondering, sort of, who is this man and what is his relationship with the american government. leland: well, that's a good question. the american government basically said don't go. and you're certainly not a representative of us. should the american government have prevented him from going? >> i think when we take a look at the sad history of private diplomatic efforts with north korea, they've generally proven disruptive. jimmy carter goes to north korea and basically forced bill clinton's hand in the 1994 frame work, claiming to have grasped
piece r peace out of the jaws of war. he eventually created the situation that saw north korea developing uranium enrichment and helped, i think, to lead north korea today and working on weapons against the united states. leland: clearly the aim here is demiliterization of north korea. there is no direct talks between the united states and north korea, but there are direct talks with former government officials. two of those former officials wrote a piece. and put them up. they have been to sweden with, we have the quote, there it is although president trump is criticized president obama's strategic patience policy as weak and ineffectual he has yet to distinguish his north korean policy from his predecessors. and he continues to pull punches against north korea and chinese violators of the u.s. law. thises goes a little to what you were saying before. there's always a risk of retaliation, but we're a long
way from exhausting the thumb screws of telling among other countries if you do business with north korean companies that's a decision not to do business with the united states. you tell the chinese, you sell coal to north korea, we don't buy your-- buy your coal, why not? >> and i work with one of the authors there, and bruce is fond of pointing out until recently we had more sanctions on sim bab zimbabwe than north korea. i agree, there are inks is a -- sanctions we should be putting on the chinese, north korea, new trade ties with north korea. and make it clear to him, that is not the actions of a u.s. ally, never mind somebody under threat by north korea. leland: hold on, let's think about that for a second. okay. they're next to the dmz, as you
pointed out. seoul is in artillery range. they say never mind, we don't think he's that big of a deal or that big of a threat? >> this is the truth of saying elections have consequences. the new president of south korea has talked about in the past the possibility of reopening a joint economic venture. wanting to renew the sunshine policy of more trade with north korea. many, many american analysts are saying that it's a horrible eyed. leland: does this tie the hands of the president trump administration? >> if that's the former policy that the south korean president pushes, that would create a horrible dilemma. we need to work on south korea with whatever policies we pursue. leland: whatever policy we pursue, we have 30,000 or so u.s. troops there who, no matter what their policies are, from the south koreans, it's american lives who are going to end up defending them if this comes to war sthoo absolutely.
if the south korean president decides to pull back, then americans lives are at risk. leland: and that perhaps could put a pause on north korea. appreciate it as always. elizabeth: a college professor under fire for saying otto warmbier quote, got exactly what he deserved. get this, in a facebook post on a personal page, university of delaware adjunct professor kathy betwiler said, quote, these are the same kids who cry about their grades. they didn't think they'd really have to read and study the material to get a good grade, whose parents are ultimately to blame for his growing up thinking he could get away with whatever he wanted. her facebook page has since been taken down or made private. the university of delaware saying that the comments of katherine debt dettwylor does
not reflect those of the university. a and.... pretty alarming when you look at this. leland: to think this is a woman who is being paid to teach our children. state run university. this is telling about the university of delaware and how they feel about this. usa today, when asked if any disciplinary action will be taken against her, university spokesperson says we are not allowed to speak on that, personnel issues ever confidential. we have seen at the universities, benefactors say i'm sorry, there's a difference between right and wrong and take a stand. elizabeth: these comments go out on social media, these are public comments, you're talking about a family burying their son. it takes my breath away. leland: there may not be an
adjective in the english language to describe how insensitive what she did was or wrong, either way. and moving on. the rescue effort going on after a devastating landslide. what caused it and how many people are feared missing coming up. plus, cracks in mitch mcconnell's ranks as republicans they're asking changes in their health care beill, and chuck schumer. >> a wolf in sheep's clothing. only a wolf has sharper teeth than the house bill.
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now and thenment democrats are calling the bill hartless, republicans say that's just partisan mudslinging. a reporter at workout po-- washington post and she's breaking it down. thank you for being here. as soon as we see the bill this week, immediately, it was partisan so we didn't necessarily immediately see what was in it because the mud slinging began, but i want to get your take. if you were to compare the health bill and the senate bill, we'll put up screens so people can have a better understanding. where is the senate bill perhaps more forgiving, if you will, and where is it harsher. >> the senate bill would retain more of the affordable health care act. elizabeth: in what way. >> the subsidies largely. a few tweaks, would tie the subsidies to income instead of age and premium growth. i think this is a play by senate majority leader mitch mcconnell to try to get the moderates on
board. basically what he did, kept the subsidies and pushed back the medicaid types, medicaid expansion more gradually than what the house bill would do, and deeper medicaid cuts, but those wouldn't be until after seven years when they might be facing a tough senate campaign. and they've got to get dean heller, portman, other people on board if they want to pass it. elizabeth: when you talk about retaining some subsidies, that's when you lose more conservative members, first of all, how are we going to pay for this, fiscal conservatives. is that where you're seeing more divisions in the medicaid expansion? >> i think the frustration that the conservatives have, it would keep a lot of insurance regulations in place. one of the big things in the house bill, it would have allowed people, insurers to possibly opt out of some of the protections of people with pre-existing conditions. the senate bill would place all
of those protections and the conservatives are arguing, you can need to lift more of these to bring the premiums down. and they're saying these are too much. and they want to see more of those provisions stepped out. that's what the ted cruz and mike lee crowd are saying. elizabeth: what do you see could change the next couple of days? we will have the cbo report possibly as early as monday, but as of right now, we don't hear those five conservative members really budging at all. >> right, i think what we're seeing now is a lot of political posturin posturing. at the end of the day, i would be surprised if the conservatives, excluding rand paul, i would be surprised if they didn't vote for the bill. they've been promising for years to repeal and replace obamacare. they are going to have to vote for this. the people to match are the moderates. dean heller, i think you saw him coming out and staking the
position to say, hey, you've got to make some changes here or there, to possibly give him an out for eventually voting for the bill if he gets a few concessions from mcconnell. what's notable though, a lot of the moderates, murkowski, collins, some of the more moderate members, they didn't draw a line in the sand and didn't come out and say we wouldn't vote for the bill. elizabeth: because there was a planned parenthood issue. >> they don't like the defunding planned parenthood in the bill. if they get an opportunity to offer an amendment to take that out, that could provide them cover for ultimately voting for the bill. elizabeth: and i think this also obviously has to pass the house. how is that-- they have to think about that when they're constructing this bill and how are they going to be able to do that? >> right. that's going to be really tricky and i think that paul ryan is very conscious of that and that's why you saw him coming out yesterday and saying, hey, guys, this bill is really similar to what we passed in the house even though there are some
pretty significant differences. you're absolutely right we don't know whether the house would pass the bill as-is or whether they would go to conference to reconcile the two versions. that will be an interesting dynamic to watch. elizabeth: if they go to conference, what's the timeline on that? >> that could talk ultimately, some weeks, they want it passed before the august recess the end of july. i could see if they pass the end. week and july being all about how they get to bill reconciled. elizabeth: thank you, interesting. leland. leland: coming up next, a california parole board recommends a member of the notorious manson family get out of jail. we'll tell you what happened next. also, frantic efforts to rescue dozens of people buried under tons of earth and rubble as the survivors begin to tell their stories. >> we heard a strange noise at
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against time to save dozens, still trapped under mud and debris after a massive landslide. will carr in our west coast news room, with how it happened and the chances for survival. hi, will. >> and leland, authorities say more than 140 people may be buried under an avalanche of rocks and mud. the landslide likely triggered by rain in remote china southwest of beijing, around 6 a.m. on saturday when most of the village was asleep, the rock came crashing down from a nearby mountain covering more than 60 homes. there was enough debris to fill 3,000 olympic sized swimming pools. at least five people are dead, but that number could spike in the search and rescue. there are reports of villagers awake and alert under the rocks, some used cell phones to call
for help and others are tapping stones so emergency crews can hear them. this is an area prone to disaster. a landslide in 2014 killed at least 11 people. another in 2013 buried around 40 and a devastating 7.9 earthquake in 2008 killed around 90,000. the bad news this this landslide, there's more rain in the forecast, and it could significantly hamper the rescue effort. leland. leland: will carr. thank you. liz. elizabeth: we have much more ahead in the next hour of america's news headquarters. new reports on russian election interference suggesting the obama administration may have known more about the meddling than they let on. and why it's got the white house and lawmakers frustrated. and it wasn't exactly a high speed chase, but this granny led police on a pursuit with quite dangerous maneuvers. we'll explain coming up.
sanctions on russia, we will speak to members on both sides of the other, donald trump questions president obama's handling of moscow's meddling in the 2016 election. leland: the fight over the future of the nation's healthcare system, our panel on what this talk in washington means for you. elizabeth: democrats debate the future of their party after their fourth loss in a row. why there is such a growing problem, nancy pelosi might go. donald trump calling on his predecessor for how he handled russia's meddling. president taking to twitter to question with the obama administration knew and why they do more about election interference. >> this stems from a washington post reported which a former senior obama administration official said i feel like we joked in our response to russia back in august, three months
before the election, president obama received the classified report with evidence vladimir putin's direct involvement in cyberattacks, to hurt hillary clinton, for the next five once the obama administration went back and forth about what to do, how to respond. they were worried about being seen as tipping the scales on a politically charged issue. donald trump is pouncing on their delayed response. he said on twitter just out the obama administration knew far in advance of november 8th about election meddling by russia and did nothing about it. other republicans are chiming in, jason chaffetz just this morning. >> this russia dust up, the democrats kicking dirt on trying to create more smoke out there
happens during barack obama's watch, he was the president of the united states and as trey gowdy got out of the homeland security secretary, the homeland security department tried to help the democrats and the democrats refused their help. >> for obama administration officials are giving it is unfair to base 2016 on what we know in 2017. reports of russian meddling -- with that sweet last night it appears donald trump for the first time has publicly acknowledged it was not a hoax and russia did not try to interfere in the 2016 election. elizabeth: thank you so much. leland: this new report brings up questions how candid the obama administration was with congress. congressman, thanks for being with us. this brings up an important
question. is the president, and members of congress, so upset over how the obama administration handled the russian hacking and russian attempts to influence the election, why is the administration and why aren't republicans in congress pounding the desk demanding more be done against russia as punishment? >> people want something done, there are investigations going on right now but the bigger problem is the previous administration's feckless foreign-policy, this issue is so critical because it is nested that policy. leland: that foreign-policy before, the president from january 20th on could have radically changed foreign policies, much tougher, that
hasn't happened. >> it has to happen. we have to change the direction of the foreign policy of this administration. it is up to the president to do largely, with congress's support but right now he can't get over the administrative appointees. >> there are a lot of people he hasn't appointed. it would be fair to say you have an issue with how the administration is handling the issue of us foreign policy towards russia. >> it would be fairer to say anticipating we are going to do something, doesn't get to the bottom of this russian intervention in our election. >> there is a difference between getting into the bottom of it and the investigation side and punishing them for it. if you read the washington post report, part of it, the president seemed to do because he has access to the same
intelligence president obama did if you read this report it seems intelligent is pretty conclusive in terms of what russia did and why. why not advocate for punishing the russians strongly, swiftly and effectively? >> we are advocating that. leland: what should the president be doing differently? >> one of the things he has done
suggesting is with the obama administration, too little too lake, those things are not bad but there are other things you can do diplomatically and economically. we have a tremendous ability economically to impose our will on the russians. with those sanctions, money transfers, exports into russia from the united states, those things we control. leland: so far he has not been excited about any action in congress to decrease sanctions but we will see is your persuasion he was. >> we will do that.
elizabeth: on the other side of the isle washington congressman and ranking member of the house armed service committee, adam smith, thank you for joining us. we heard the representative speaking briefly at the top saying the previous administration had a very poor policy. i want to get your response before we go ahead and talk about your plans for the bill you are proposing. >> as members of congress we should focus on what is going on right now. the explanation for everything is it is obama's fall. he has been president for six months, elected last november. as your cohost pointed out, done nothing, the whole point of the russian investigation was to get into what the russians are doing in terms of hacking into our election. >> he was the president when these attacks took place.
>> he is now and has been for six months and has done not only nothing, he has on more than one occasion said the whole russia stories fake news. he planted the impression that it didn't happen when it clearly did happen, a profound threat to our national security. what i was going to say is we are upset was comey and the other stuff but it started as an effort to figure out what the russians did to put the investigation, to stop at. you want me to say the obama administration didn't do enough, clearly they didn't. why is the trump administration refusing to do anything, even acknowledge it happens? >> you said it is time for congress to take the lead and you feel it is time for congress to take the lead because you don't like the executive branch doing it. >> part of taking the lead --
ultimately these are executive actions, the senate passed a strong sanctions bill and donald trump's ability to remove those actions, the bill i introduced is focused on countering what the russians are doing, they are using cyberhacking, disinformation. we are talking to some degree about nuclear weapon, someone an hour ago made an outstanding point, instead of figuring out how to counter this is not what they are doing. what they are doing is using the internet, using hacking and misinformation. why aren't we countering that? start doing it ourselves. >> breaking it up into three parts, it is oversimplifying, fake news, hacking and cyberattacks, didn't necessarily -- there were attempts at the
state level. how do you counter that at the congressional level. >> authorizing people to get more aggressive at information. you fund its. and we can fund more nuclear weapons and all of that which people who are cybersmart and better emphasize public information and back during the cold war was very effective, we delivered our message and put people to work on that. the statement by 31%, cutting the public information campaign, and this is what we need to do and we need to give donald trump to get over the fact, impacting
his election and focus on threat russia faces to defend and protect, what is countering this. >> your argument is your particular bill you are working on is focusing on the cyberwarfare, works together which you feel needs to be approved in sanctions. >> i introduced it last week. one of the number one thing this is requires the white house a comprehensive plan to counter russia. one of the biggest things is to kick the president, to actually countering russia in doing. we need a comprehensive plan to stop focusing on the election,
fake news or whatever, russia is a threat. the white house is countering. elizabeth: we look forward to seeing progress on your bill. leland: senate leadership once a vote on their health care bill next week but first, mitch mcconnell, enough republicans on board, five gop senators say they can't support it. they can only afford to lose two gop senators, garrett tenney following the debate here. there are a lot of phone calls and arm-twisting and golf games this weekend. >> good weather for golf games works out well for the gop but can't support it yet. that is the keyword. that is what republican leadership is banking on, they hope between now and wednesday or thursday where a final vote is expected, they negotiate their way to 50 yes votes, republicans can only lose two of their own and if changes aren't
made, they are no. the latest from the gop, did not hold back his criticism. >> i cannot support a piece of legislation, hundreds of thousands. the healthcare -- i am not confident. and to achieve that goal. >> joining heller in the know, ted cruz, michael lee, ron johnson and rand paul. of changes are made to the bill, all five said they are open to switching there for. white house and senate leadership are working behind the scenes to see what changes they can make to assure that the bill passes. >> this is a discussion seeking input and having ongoing negotiations with senators, we
can invite our democratic colleagues to join us, so far they have refused to participate in the process they continue to refuse, we have no choice other than to do our best to rescue the american people from the failures of obamacare. >> on monday the congressional budget office will release its score, how much the gop plan has the potential to further complicate the gop efforts but important to remember this is a 1-shot deal for republicans because they use the special budget reconciliation process which allows them to pass it with a simple majority rather than 60 votes. if they fail to pass this healthcare package, obamacare is something. leland: that is why the pro-trump pack america first policies is pressuring congressional republicans, launching an ad campaign against the senator from nevada saying you are with nancy pelosi, in uncharted territory is republicans attack republicans. ronald reagan had something to
say about that. more on that later. keep it on fox news channel for the latest developments on the healthcare bill. we will talk to republican senator luther strange in the 1:00 eastern our about divisions in his party specifically about these ads and what it means and brit hume filling out for chris wallace speaking to health and human services secretary tom price, staunch advocate of repealing and replacing obamacare. check your locus -- listings for time in general, on media buzz howard kurtz talk to sean spicer about the white house's take on the bill and what the president can do to twist some arms in the coming days. elizabeth: democratic -- nancy pelosi, a defiant nonetheless, a majority push the minority leader out. economics of marijuana. is it really helping to revise something? we will talk about it.
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leland: a 1-time member of manson crime family is not getting out of jail anytime soon. serving a life sentence for the 1969 slaying of two men, sharon tate and six others by charles manson and his cultlike followers. the court recommended the 74-year-old's release but gerri brown cites the heinous nature of the crimes and left an indelible mark on the public so davis is still and will remain behind bars. elizabeth: to the debate on medical marijuana, a hot topic at the state level across the us, and industry helping steel town get an economic boost.
>> reporter: pennsylvania awarded its first medical marijuana permit this week to a dozen communities, it was not chosen this time around but they hope they will be next. >> really hit bottom, 90% of its populations were gone, playgrounds were open and it was considered a violent place. >> reporter: braddock, pennsylvania, once a booming steel town has been bankrupt since 1988. mayor john fetterman believes opening a medical marijuana facility would bring back jobs and revised the trouble down. >> medical marijuana provided enough financial assistance, would create a magnet business that would bring in other support is this is, would put us on the map. >> reporter: of formula in canada. >> we have to be new and innovative and open to new ideas if we are going to transform the future of the community.
>> the town of 9000 lost hundred jobs and chocolate moved its factory to mexico, a new industry moved in. >> the cannabis flower a couple weeks away. >> reporter: today the abandoned factory is home to the largest medical want marijuana producer, the facility employs 300 people and business could triple next summer when canada is set to recognize medical marijuana. >> we have hope we didn't have before. >> pennsylvania legalize medical marijuana last year, sales are projected to triple in 2020, communities like braddock hoping to capitalize and look at this am able to change that and turn it into a lucrative new industry. that would make a ton of money. >> thank you so much for that
story. leland: never underestimate a grandmother, especially one from texas as her adventures behind the wheel make a short jail stay, she took off, the 81-year-old driving the wrong way, you can see the - cam video, refused to stop for police on a low-speed chase and she had to have her tires punctured and they had to break the glass on the door to get her out. the women told officers she hadn't done anything wrong, she didn't need to stop. you can see officers going back to their car. she was charged with evading arrest. the police have no idea, she wasn't intoxicated, hasn't shown any sign of mental health issues. elizabeth: she had to get a coffee and sandwich. leland: at 81 that is your prerogative. her family is sending her to the
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revealed healthcare bill, gop senators say they cannot support the bill in its current form in the party can only afford to lose two votes, showing no independent are democrat votes for the bill, including a tie-breaking vote by mike pence. the party echoes the disagreement the house first saw over their health care bill with paul ryan forced to pull the initial vote, let bring in our fair and balanced panel to discuss the future. democratic strategist and partner of the group. brian walsh is an editor at rock solutions. thank you for joining us. let's look at the leverage we have there. >> a tremendous amount of leverage. this is and abnormal. it is perfectly normal part of the legislative process. it happens within the democrats.
i learned never to bet against mitch mcconnell, and the next two days talking with these folks and working something out. >> i want your response, mitch mcconnell is a magician at the same time, some senator 7 quite vocal, very conservative cuts. >> big concessions. >> rand paul is the most vocal, eliminating all subsidies. and and take those two, where ted cruz was the biggest surprise of the bunch for me. i expected more moderate republicans to be against this but no one can get him on the
record yet. >> it is hard to predict. after the election, it will come around, as a republican i'm concerned about trump super pac ads, it is a big thing. elizabeth: it doesn't surprise me. >> ten democrats who represent states donald trump won including simple donald trump won by double digits. it focuses on the wrong direction, very good republican. elizabeth: back to health care, when you talk about those confessions, it could be a compromise. some people were surprised -- more gentle than what we saw. >> from democratic perspective we don't see any compromise in
public option on the table, from the republican perspective anything they give to get senators to come online will cause big problems in the house, the house had its own fight. at the end the actual strategy, pushed this out and get it to the senate and the freedom caucus will have the fight all over again and paul ryan has a problem on his hands. >> the only way we are working with republicans on this -- if they want to talk about making changes to the existing program. when we look at healthcare market we don't see anything, premiums are deductible down because the insurance companies driving it for the past 40 years. elizabeth: were you surprised the senate took out the mandate? how are we going to pay for
this. >> one of the focuses for an act that i middle-class families as a result of obamacare. it is not a perfect the bill, and a bill to the president to be signed. and that is tough to deal with. and -- and early next week. what critics voices are going to hear from the democratic side? we heard loud voices. >> most of the groups, moving to the senate side and make the
same thing. they cover for million more people, and 20 million, getting kicked off and real people. >> it is not accurate. >> the cost of doing nothing which would be catastrophic, premiums skyrocketed, unsustainable. >> people have one option. >> i live across the river in virginia, one healthcare company on the market. we should also be talking about the cost of doing nothing. >> this is another sign the government is held hostage by corporate interests. the customers are there.
this is where it is a very viable way to compete. >> don't know if that is going to happen. >> when you look at healthcare companies, healthcare is not in the market system. if i want to buy a can of coke i can buy coke or pepsi or drinkwater out of my closet. it has to go to a doctor. that doesn't mean companies on the private market, no other option. >> all other options fail, which party suffers when we continue to let obamacare continue? >> the american people suffer the most. >> i believe obamacare properly funded and implemented and
states to their expansion like they were supposed to, it can be successful but right now it is swiss cheese, they are never going to let it succeed. in the end it would be great to see a new competitive bill with democrats and republicans on board, a combination of a free market based republican version of the public option. we can all hope. elizabeth: that sounds like we would have nothing to talk about. thank you so much, it will be an interesting week. minority leader nancy pelosi taking some opposition from her own party after another special election loss, democrats on the wrong track for the midterm elections next year, we have a closer look at this debate coming up next.
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rubber bullet, firefighters -- one of 70 people killed in the past we humans of demonstrations seeking the approval of the president. in an unusual twist the father of the latest victim has been the work supervisor earlier when the socialist leader -- a connection there. leland: house minority leader nancy pelosi says she thrives on competition and she has some even from her own party. >> she is a great leader and her time has come and gone. money we are raising in her leadership is not helping us win elections, we have to have a difficult conversation now. >> i believe she is not the leader of the democratic party.
leland: leader pelosi spotted she is a master legislator and hence, quote, worth it. you be the judge, here with us robert pillow, good to see you as always. >> thank you. >> reasonable people can agree the democrats have serious problems, whether it is special election loss is or how to frame the 2018 debate, they have issues. is that issue nancy pelosi? >> a wholesale question of leadership of the party and the direction of the party, the top three democrats in the house are combined 221 years old. we need policies for young people, minority voters and special election lawsuit, typically in georgia, hammered ossoff as california pelosi, and
policies in the democratic party. leland: you talk about policy but it seems the only thing uniting democrats is being against donald trump. that didn't work well in 2016. what policies are you talking about? >> we see black lives better protests for the last we 5 years demanding legislation to address police brutality. this is the perfect time for democrats to say this is the policy agenda we are putting forward. we have heard silence. you are not addressing the democratic base or getting involved in issues, hundreds of thousands people in the streets, you can't expect them to turn out on election day. leland: this is what the president has to say, weighing in on whether nancy pelosi should stay speaker.
>> i think it would be very sad day for republicans if she steps down. i would be very disappointed if she did. i would like to keep her right where she is because our record is extraordinary against her. leland: the gop twitter account responded with this, we stand with nancy because we are not tired of winning, the democrats started the hashtag stand with nancy, is this going to change things? >> i don't think it will change things, donald trump would love for nancy pelosi to step down because if they were in impeachment proceedings she will be leading the charge. trump's sarcasm was out of place, don't whisper things, they might come through. leland: be careful what you wish for. the president has a point, as
you point out, leadership is combined 200 plus years old is not the leadership that comes up with new ideas, new policy initiatives, they come back to their old playbook. >> the president have a point, the wrong direction on this. the reason democrats need to push new leadership is to get younger ideas and issues on the table, when bernie sanders at 75 years old is the young whippersnapper with progressive ideas is a sign we have to bring fresh blood, a new younger voice to the party so we can compete in the 21st century. >> what is preventing those things? we talk to the dnc election where there was not a new guard pride in, why does this seem so difficult? >> the democratic party,
minority, the center of the country, we saw in the ossoff campaign, $1200 go in which led to the campaign devoid of local issues, of structure, strong talking points for voters. this is the split within the party, the people who control the money don't reflect the policy of base voters which leaves base voters to -- until we can get the money part of the party to support the people part of the party we will continue losing. leland: fair to say that barack obama was uniquely able to do that in terms of bringing the money and issues together. appreciate your insight and analysis as always. we will talk to you soon. elizabeth: imagine this, told to
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up to four weeks, many people were confused and angry, the decision was made too late in the evening but fire safety, they remain concerned, thermal pattern on the building could be flammable. local government officials, checking similar apartments, so far 27 high-rise residential buildings have failed tire safety tests. >> we have urged authorities to send samples of materials being tested, many have been found not to be up to fire safety standards as required, that is why action is being taken. >> the prime minister talking about action being taken but it was the deadly fire in west london which prompted the action to assess the safety managed by local authorities to get twee 10
days ago at least 79 people died in that blaze in west london, that fire spread, tracking people in their apartment and planning covers the building, key contributing factors, the intensity of the fire may be a banned substance to be established by the investigation, police are considering an investigation, possible criminal charges installing it. many more people living in similar buildings face a real risk. they have been given emergency shelter, as much as it will flow, many people say they won't be, elizabeth? elizabeth: the very latest,
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