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#freespeech,doesnotworkthatway: . if you take on the line of the original tweet. it has to do with phil mickelson. thank you for watching everybody here on "special report," good night from washington. now to "the story" ." >> martha: breaking tonight, president trump president trump gives senators the old and i see you in my office after they didn't get the numbers they needed to get health care, moving. >> this will be great if we get it done, and if we don't get it done it will be something that we aren't going to like and that's okay, and i understand that very well. >> mr. president, what do you think --dash -- >> i think it's going to be great. >> martha: congressman versus scramble to the cameras. some are claiming victory. some are saying this game is far from over. >> this is a victory for 22 million people in america who would've lost their health insurance. >> delaying the vote makes a
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great deal of sense. >> it's not a matter of walking away from the existing bill, it's a matter of gaining consensus. >> as they step back, we are in cage coming prepared to engage them. >> it's going to take more discussions. we know the fight is not over. that is for sure. >> i'm not happy with this. i believe we don't have enough right now. >> the republican leader in the senate, this fight is not over. >> martha: the governor rick scott was on the hill today, he was talking to many of those senators. he is here with his take. we begin with obamacare architect and fox news contributor zeke emanuel. welcome back to the program. >> nice to be here. >> martha: is this senate bill still obamacare in your mind? >> the senate bill is not going very far. it's not actually, in my view, a reform. something that takes away the entire medicaid expansion that
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hobbles the exchanges as a way of taking down, trying to take down the essential positives of the affordable care act. >> martha: you believe, basically, the structure in place, although it backs off the long term additions to medicare over the years, do you feel like -- we were talking, we said basically he was kind of pleased with this version because it is still obamacare. do you agree? >> no, i think it's like a neutron bomb. they left the structures in place and killed the people. that's one way of thinking about this bill. it gets rid of the 22 million people who have coverage while leaving a lot of the structures of the affordable care act in place. that's not compassion. a lot of the house people voted for the house bill, on the premise that the senate would fix the bill. the senate did anything but fix the bill, did not make it more compassionate. it is still -- >> martha: what do you make of the argument under obamacare,
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23 million people opted out of it. they either paid the fine or they avoided it. they ignored it, they didn't check the box that said i have no health insurance. now you're giving more people -- now you're giving more people the option to decide whether or not they want to pay for their health care through this program. >> let me make two points. since day one, i have said that we are going to need revisions. we are going to learn about unintended consequences. we didn't get everything we wanted in the bill, especially efforts to control cost and reduce deductibles. i've always said we need reform. i think we need constant reform because we are learning new things as we go along. the second point i would say is if the american public has to understand one thing very clearly, if you want pre-existing conditions excluded, so insurance companies cannot exclude people with cancer or heart disease or diabetes, or depression or
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asthma, you have to have everybody in the system. you cannot allow people to choose i'm going to be in or i'm going to be out. until i get sick, then i will jump in. those two things cannot operate at the same time. if we want to know pre-existing disease exclusion by insurance companies, you have to have a mandate or some other way of getting everyone into the system. i know people don't like that, but that is inevitable. it is one of those things you have to eat your vegetables. >> martha: that was one of the big failures of the program. that's what we've learned. >> it's not a failure -- >> martha: the failure to get people to buy them because they only wanted to buy and once they got sick. why should they put their hard-earned money into this if they don't have to do it until they get sick? let me finish my point. >> that's what would happen if he didn't have a mandate. they would sit on the sidelines until they got sick and then come in. >> martha: they would say, well, the mandate would be gone under this program.
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but basically bailing out the insurance companies now. that's why you got a nice boost for hospitals and for insurance companies, because now the money is going to go to them to stabilize them. >> martha, there are things we can do to encourage young people to get into the insurance market. a lot of them don't know that they are eligible for subsidies. a lot of them don't understand the risks without it. and i do think we need to be serious about enforcing the mandate and what the insurance companies have said. reduce the number of exemptions and exclusions that people actually have to come in and tell them we are serious about it. we also do need to stabilize the insurance company just the way republicans stabilized insurance companies under medicare part d. you don't know who's going to be in the market, you don't know what their profile is going to look like. to keep rates down, you need a stabilization. the uncertainty created by this bill, the uncertainty crated by the republicans about the
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cautionary subsidies, the deductibles and coinsurance, we are not going to enforce the mandate by the president, that create uncertainty. the insurance companies increase the premiums. one of the reasons we have -- the uncertainty crated by the republican's. >> martha: i have to leave you there. thank you very much. let's bring in florida governor rick scott. got into politics after a career in health care, and he was in meetings all day on capitol hill. good to have you. this is the opposite of what you spent your life in the private sector doing, which is to give a lot more choice to people and to allow the free market to have a role in health care choice. a lot of republicans say we are so far from that where this bill stands. do you agree? >> this is a work in progress. i appreciate the fact that president trump invites us in, i met with vice president pence today, they are working hard and they want to repeal and replace
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obamacare. let's look at the numbers. obamacare is a disaster. costs have spiraled out of control. we knew that was going to happen. the only way to get cost down where people can afford their own health care is more competition, allow people to buy the insurance they want to buy. >> martha: this is what zeke emanuel and i were just talking about. you had millions of people that opted out of obamacare. they said i don't want -- either i'm going to pay the fine, or i'm not going to check the box, and i'm going to ignore. in those cases they weren't fine. you have to have a home way or the other in terms of how you like this. he either had to have everybody buy-in, have a single-payer system, or if to allow the free market a larger role in health care in order to bring prices down. is that right? >> the free market works. it works in every other industry. >> martha: but that's not forgetting with this republican bill, is it? >> they are still working on it. i came up fighting for florida. i want to make sure our state
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gets treated fairly. we pay our taxes just like every other state. our federal taxes remain lower, so to make sure that the medicaid reimbursement coming back is fair. second, when you have a pre-existing condition or not, you should be able to buy the insurance you want. you will spend her money smarter and better than anybody else will. i grew up in a family without health insurance. i knew the struggles my parents had to have health care for my brother who had a hip disease. we have to give them less expensive health care, great health care at a price that they can afford. >> martha: you say you are there fighting for medicaid reimbursement for your state. that's what a lot of governors are doing. nobody wants to give anything back once their state has been given it. i think it's a legitimate question to ask why we have such an increase in people on medicaid, and the subset question is able-bodied people should they have to work in order to get medicaid. the economy is generally improving over the last several years. and yet more and more people on medicaid, why is that?
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>> we didn't do the expansion because we knew the program could not pay for. here are the numbers. we have 1 million more people on our basic medicaid program then in new york, and they get paid 2-300-000-0000 out of the federal government, and we get $14 billion. how is that fair? i want to make sure that we take care of our taxpayers. i want to take care of our citizens. i want people to have health care. but it has to be fair to our state. we didn't do the expansion, so we need to get the same rate per person as every other state. then give our citizens a choice. >> martha: thank you very much. best of luck to you in florida and the folks in washington try to hammer this out. it's going to be after the fourth of july now, which we all know. thank very much, governor scott. still ahead, an exclusive wide-ranging interview with top advisor to the present gary cohen. our own ed henry asking him at the time, stepped on the gas on a few things.
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>> playing a lot of defense what the president's policies. his is a chance to go on offense? >> martha: plus members of the obama administration find themselves on the hot seat. investigators are now focusing on why they failed to act against russia when their own intelligence warned them that there was some meddling going on in the election. newt gingrich is here to respon respond.
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hoping that he would not be invited back, newt gingrich is here. it is good to see tonight. welcome back to the show. what do you make of john podesta's comments are there? >> what's he going to say? the whole thing is bizarre. the president of the united states in august was briefed by the ca dem ex cia that russians had been >> for whatever reason he made the decision not to tell immigrant people, not to tell the presidential candidates who by the weight roundly condemned that. he could've had trump and clinton on the same side vigorously condemning let me put in, saying he was totally unprecedented no matter who was going to help. i think it would've been a much healthier thing. i said i think the president, president obama, should come up
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and testify. when did he learn, who did he learn from, who did he get in his advisors, why would they keep a secret from the american people for five months? frankly, the things they did to retaliate were pathetically weak, the obama model in foreign policy, but i think the serious effort if the cia and the nsa believed there was a serious effort, i think they should have had a public american confrontation with flood reporting, and they would have been behind them. instead, because we had this whole fiasco of worrying about trump and collusion, none of which gets proven, then we finally discover, oh, president obama knew about this almost a year ago. it's unconscionable. >> martha: you wrote a piece yesterday saying that numbers don't lie. that robert mueller's hunting. the people that he is hired, the lawyers, you feel their background points to a very
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political bent for them. it all goes in the clinton direction. the first question i have for you is, given this new part of the spotlight, turning back on the obama administration asking how they dealt with this information when at that point it was pretty much everyone thought hillary clinton was going to win, and he chose not to come out and talk about it. that does deserve a question for the president. it is not going to change mueller's investigation, this newer angle to all of this? >> look, mueller's investigation has nothing to do with russia. he is going to go after obstruction of justice, is can neglect or perjury, is going to go after financial problems. he is out on the hunt to try to get the president. it is nothing to do with the original russian story. you can tell that by the people he hired. lemme be clear about numbers. i thought it was amazing that among those people who donated in the justice department, 97% donated to to clinton, and 3% donated to trump. >> martha: why is that surprising given the fact that it was obama justice department?
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>> approves how liberal the base was. the law firm that mueller came from, it was 99.81% for hillary, and 0.19% for trump. and that cultural environment, why would any republican be relaxed or comforted, why would any independent be relaxed or comforted, that sounds like a steep bias that it's inevitably going to be a problem. >> martha: it's -- sorry to interrupt -- he hasn't really made any effort, you're saying to make any appearance that this is an evenhanded investigation group that he has hired. >> it would've been simple. hire one probe trump lawyer for every clinton lawyer, that isn't what it happen. he hired a lawyer that was a lawyer for the clinton foundation. how can you expect any republican to relax in that
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circumstance? >> martha: i understand. going into this he had a lot of acclaim even from you, and it would've been quite easy for him to make sure that he had a team that had a lot of balance so that the integrity would never be questioned. i want to play this exchange with lindsay graham today, intelligence officials on the hill. >> talking to the russian ambassador and then it states, apparently you all are listening. i don't mind if you are listening. i do mind if somebody can take that conversation and use against me politically. >> we have that request from you, and we are processing -- >> months ago, am i going to get it in my lifetime? >> if there's anything in this country people are entitled to it's at least an answer to their question. >> if i were you i would answer my question because he's mad. >> >> martha: toca chuck grassly fired up, right, newt? >> he was and he should be. what we're seeing is typical behavior. this is what people mean about the swamp or the deep state. the bureaucracy plays
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rope-a-dope. they draw everything out. they can't quite get it done. they wait for the news media tub lead. people should be outraged that you should have this out of control, totally internally directed system that doesn't seem to be responsible to anybody. i think that's the opposite of what a free society is supposed to be. >> martha: great my point. coming up, a battle between cnn, who has the upper hand. we are going to bring you the back story in that time. plus syria put on notice. the white house delivers a loaded warning. after they claimed that the assad regime maybe preparing for more chemical attacks. could we see another round of u.s. strikes? >> assad is beyond brittle.
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here it is. "the united states has identified preparations for another potential attack by the assad regime that would result in the mass murder of civilians, including innocent children. the activities are similar to the preparations the regime made before its chemical weapons attack, as was previously stated, they have asked syria to eliminate the islamic state. if mr. assad conducts another mass murderer attack using chemical weapons, he and his military will pay a heavy price." today u.s. ambassadors to the united nations, nikki haley, extended that warning to assad's allies. >> i believe that the goal at this point is not just to send assad a message, but descent russia and iran a message. if this happens again, we are putting you on notice. they have to make a decision. either they allow assad to go forward with the chemical weapons attack and they get
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associated with it, or they try to get this to stop. >> martha: they have it. joining me now representative will heard, former cia officer, good to have you. at the a lot of people so that statement and had a similar reaction. very strong, kind of came out of nowhere late last night. what is the likely intelligence basis for this? >> when you make a statement like that, it is based on actual intelligence. i will say this, martha, i had the honor of serving nine and a half years shoulder to shoulder with some real patriots as an undercover officer in the cia. and i learned some thing. be nice to nice guys and tough with tough guys. this is a tough message. we already know al-assad is a barbarian. only a barbarian would use chemical weapons against his own people. a lot of times we only focus on the last time he did this, which resulted in 59 missiles into syria, but he had done this dozens of times before.
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this is a clear message. i think, the syrians, the iranians, the russians know that president trump means business and there will be a response. if this red line crossed, you will see a response. >> martha: it's been a wise move, do you think, to give this heads-up? does he give them space to make a different choice if those weapons are being moved into place? >> when you let people know how you're going to respond to certain behavior, that it's a deterrent. the goal here is to prevent the syrians from using chemical weapons on their own people or on u.s. forces or allied forces, so there are times when you do want to telegraph your response, because it does give you -- it does serve as a deterrent. i think people recognize that president trump and his team mean business, and the iranians and the russians instead of worrying about our response, what they should be doing is
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making sure that assad doesn't use his chemical weapons. because if he uses them, the iranians and the russians are just as much at fault. >> martha: i think nikki haley made that very clear. thank you very much. good to see you tonight. >> thank you for having me on. >> martha: another former obama administration officials under fire for what some call it a hypocritical. former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha power, writing "more people are fleeing for their lives today than any time since hitler. most refugees year and for bud black but lack the u.s. type. "she is referring to the change in the travel ban that says you have to have a connection, school, work, a family member in order to be able to come here from those countries where that applies. however, that tweet received quite a bit of blowback from many who are quick to point out that the obama administration's role in the syria crisis was
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less than commendable. former u.n. spokesman, saying "outrageous hypocrisy given your front row seat to the syria chaos." former house until, and fox news contribute or, welcome to you both as always. marie, let me start with you. that's a direct criticism of the administration. the state department where you work. >> it is, and it's not the first time that he has done that. i can tell you that there is no one who fought more for syrian refugees, for the people of syria. her message wasn't a controversial one. the syrian people are going through this horrible civil war, and we should welcome refugees to our shores. why didn't we set up pay zones or have a no-fly zone where they lived, where they very much wanted to stay? >> safe zones are a good zone in theory, but in practice they are exceedingly difficult to do. first of all, there weren't a
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lot of places where we could do that, and that would mean committing a lot more u.s. troops and u.s. assets to protect that, something a lot of the american people aren't looking to do. why, when the syrian people or try to escape this, would we prevent refugees from coming here? it's a simple message, and i don't think a controversial one. >> martha: what it did was it forced millions of people out of their homeland who wanted to stay where they were. they want protection in their country. pete, your thoughts on samantha power's comments on that? >> it's very disappointing. this relay should be a partisan issue come up when she comes out and makes these statements, you have to point out that it was the obama administration, their policies in iraq and syria and libya that created this refugee crisis. all three of those countries became failed states. we saw the genocide of christians, the attacks on the kurds, and everything, and that
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is what created the environment where i think you've got somewhere between seven and 9 million people who are either refugees or displaced persons. this is what the trump administration inherited. this isn't about whether we're going to take 60, 100,000 refugees in the united states. this is about how do we go back into the middle east, how do we stabilize the middle east of this 7-9 million people find a way back to their homes and try to reestablish their lives in their home countries. >> martha: we've already seen a very different response from this administration. we saw the first missile strike against state comic syria. we saw the fighting down a vote syrian waterjet. the shooting down of two drones. it's quite refreshing that they are willing to take military action to topple assad. something the obama
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administration's had had to happen. >> well, i'm not sure that the trump administration is trying to use military force to topple assad. i'm not sure what their actual strategy is. i was supportive of the strikes after the last chemical attack. i set it on air, i've said it many times since. when i also said was one night of strikes is not a strategy. in the long term i haven't seen the trump administration say publicly or to congress or to the american people, here is the strategy, here is the end goal, and here's how we are going to get there. this warning last night to me was incredibly interesting because now if assad does another chemical weapons attack, donald trump has drawn his own redline. >> martha: that's exactly what president obama did. >> we could debate that a long time. we have, actually. >> martha: the president you work for said that exact same thing and didn't act. >> he was very critical of drawing redline. he was very critical -- it was
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crossed and donald trump owns this now. if they do something again, he will have to do something to respond. it will be -- i'm not sure that they know what they would do in response and i think the american people want to know without b. >> martha: let's get pete in here one more time. >> i'm sure that assad, what the the trump administration did last night, they made it very clear. if he is weapons again we will strike, we will hit you again. you cross that redline. this was all about deterrent, hoping that assad would change his mind and not use these weapons. i think in the coming weeks you will see the evolution of a trump doctrine for not only syria and iraq, but also for libya and afghanistan. i think it will be a different approach, hopefully one that will work and bring some stability to those countries and their citizens. >> martha: the irony that all of those actions he just talked about, pete, are very anti-russia and will make russia very unhappy. so that kind of put up against the russia scandal is a bit of a
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head scratcher. thank you very much. good to see both as always. >> thank you. >> martha: republican senators were at the white house to talk health care with the president. our insider gary cohn gives us the inside. here with more of -- plus fallen u.s. sailors. google hit with a big fine. and president trump paddling disney. although stories straight ahead when we come back. yes. so let me ask you this... how does diabetes affect your heart? it doesn't, does it? actually, it does. type 2 diabetes can make you twice as likely to die from a cardiovascular event, like a heart attack or stroke. and with heart disease, your risk is even higher. you didn't know that. no. yeah. but, wait, there's good news for adults who have type 2 diabetes
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>> martha: some of the big stories, here are some side stories that are making news tonight. the u.s. navy paying tribute today to the seven soldiers killed when the uss fitzgerald collided with a merchant ship off japan. more than 2,000 soldiers and
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their families attended the ceremony to honor those victims. the worship and a container ship from the philippines crashed on june 17th severely damaging the destroyer. the incident is under investigation. and google has been slept with a record $2.7 billion antitrust find by european union regulars. they are accused of using its search engine to unfairly steer people towards its own shopping platform. the tech giant is now considering an appeal. finally, the house of mouse versus the white house. president trump versus the anima tronic debut at disney's hall of presidents. they are delaying rolling out the trump figure. disney is apparently blaming the white house. imagine ears as they are called, they usually work with the president's team to write and record a little speech that the president will say when the kids go to disney. according to disney, the white house alone is crafting that address. in the meantime, back to the
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real white house were president trump and his administration have been trying to break through the noise surrounding russia and get back to advancing the president's agenda. ed henry spoke exclusively with gary cohn, and he joins us like. >> good to see you. gary cohn is also the key driver of much of the president's agenda. he told me that despite the noise we are hearing on russia, they are determined to make progress on health care, tax cuts, and also their big focus all this week, which is increasing u.s. energy exports, which means more american jobs. >> the president is very committed to health care. the president has talked about what's going on with obamacare, how it's affecting our citizens, how the service has gone down, and premiums have gone up. how there's many counties out there that are offering no health care options, no providers out there. the president is committed to fixing this. he's meeting with the senators as we speak right now.
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he is actively engaged and wants to see this to the finish line. >> how do you fix it when it appears like republicans don't have a consensus? >> the president is a dealmaker. he is i was talked about himself as a dealmaker. this is a deal he needs to make, there are issues that need to be worked out, and there were in there talking to the group. they are trying to credit consensus. he is trying to drive to a bill that can get passed by the senate. >> another issue or try to get on the radar is energy. energy dominance sounds like something that maybe the president is focused on. >> he is focused on energy dominance. we are in a unique position in this country. it's been since 1953 since we were in energy exporter in this country. think about that. we are no longer dependent on other countries to be willing to sell us energy. we are now in a position where we can take care of ourselves, not only can we take care of ourselves, we can export energy out of the united states and we can take care of other nations around the world. that puts us in a unique position. >> after the paris climate cord pulling out, he play a lot a
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defense, this is a chance to go on offense and say instead of going on defense we are taking action? >> we are not playing defense. he has always been in favor of and all of the above energy strategy. he's been supportive of coal, he's supportive of solar, he supportive of anything in between. natural gas as part of the in between products. we continue to do things in the administration to make energy viable to the united states, and make us energy dominant. we are doing that by getting rid of regulations and making our energy more competitive. >> down the road, you want to get the tax reform as well. >> we deftly want to get the tax reform sooner than eventually. the sooner we get the tax reform the better. our objective for now is to get to tax reform right after the august recess. >> the list you just ticked off, how do you do all of that when the media just wants to talk about russia? >> the media can talk about what they want to talk about. we are going to execute on our agenda. that's what we are doing. we've been going through
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methodically paired with been repealing much of the regulation that's been going on, we've been talking about what we want to talk about, executing what we want to execute, and we've been meeting every day with tax people. we've been meeting with listening groups. i've got another listening group today talking about taxes, talking about a tax bill, talking about what we need in this country to drive text to a place that stimulus and to make economic growth. we are going to do that. >> let him give you a concrete example. they are working on a deal to sell hundreds of billions of dollars in liquefied natural gas to china and other countries. that could mean jobs, but it could also mean fixing the trade imbalance that the president talked about. >> martha: fascinating. we talk about energy independence for decades, and it changes your national security dynamic. in a huge way, when you are no longer beholden to other countries in the middle east for your energy, it's a huge game changer. i want to ask you before i let you go, and terms of the mood on the ground at the white house. he is a very interesting man,
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and he sort of pushed it off like everything's fine, we are getting our work done. is that your understanding, ed? >> there's always political problems for the present, people around here say we are just fine, but gary cohn is a gathers been through a lot of battles on wall street. he has that calm, cool demeanor. he told me a quick anecdote that they have one country out west this come to them several times that they are trying to build a copper plant. they've been turned out twice by the federal government. i said is that for a few months? he said no, more than ten years. trying to build a copper plant, but they can't do it. it means tens of thousands of u.s. jobs. it is the kinds of deals that we are working on. sound small, but can have a major impact. >> martha: ed, thank you so much. good to see it tonight, as always, ed. straight ahead, a retracted cnn story prompted the white house to go on offense tonight against what it called a "barrage of fake news."
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>> i think it's the constant barrage of fake news that is directed at the president that has garnered a lot of his frustration. if the media can be trusted, that's a dangerous place for
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america. >> martha: that was the deputy white house secretary, it all began when cnn published in our attracted story that they said it was basically collusion link between a trump ally and a russian investment fund. a story that the network admits now is not vetted enough. cnn apologized and three journalists offered their resignation and left cnn. live in our west coast newsroom, with the latest. >> the cnn article citing just one anonymous source claimed a senate intelligence committee was looking into the executive of a $10 billion russian investment fund, and that the russian executive had met with hedge fund manager and trump ally. after he threatened a lawsuit and cnn decided it could not fully stand behind its reporting, the story was retracted. cnn apologized, and he accepted. the president, however, was not as magnanimous, tweeting "wow,
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cnn had to retract big story on russia with three employees forced to resign. what about all the other phony stories they do? fake news. "he went on to indicate that cnn is about to go through management changes, and that ratings are down. cnn fired back, saying "we just posted our second most-watched quarter in history. for those of the facts." and while they have won awards, it is also been involved in a series of embarrassing missteps. like having to fire kathy griffin for the picture of her holding an imitation of the president's severed head, or having to host for going after the president and a series of vulgar tweets. cnn had to correct a story saying that the former fbi director james comey would testify before the senate that he never told the president he was not under investigation. and for the record, mr. trump
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also believes abc, cbs, nbc, "the new york times," and "the washington post" are fake news. martha. >> martha: thank you. here with more, mollie hemingway, senior editor at the federalist. and emily, campaign director for the center for american progress action fund. good to see you both. obviously this is a bug in battle that has been going on for some time. this was the latest misstep by cnn, but many would say that they did the right thing in this case and the three reporters, they had no mercy on these three reporters who offered their resignation. emily? >> why is the president focusing on this? they are in the middle of the largest health care battle. he doesn't like to be misrepresented. he misrepresents himself on a daily basis. why did he indicate that he had tapes of james comey? why did have his press secretary say that the inner circle
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knows -- that's obviously a typo. he misrepresents himself on a daily basis. i wish he would stop worrying about his ego and focus on the task at hand. he is running a large, large government. this is not a business that you can run when you have emotions and ego. >> it's been very clear, we looked at those tweets at him moments ago, he feels this is the only way he has to set the record straight because he can speak directly to his twitter followers of which there are millions and millions. so why shouldn't he do that? that's one question. and what about this cnn move, the very latest. >> it certainly they did the right thing by retracting the story and the three journalists have parted ways. having said that, this is a story that goes back many months, and cnn has been pushing an elaborate russian conspiracy theory with many stories that have not really been -- they have not been solid stories.
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just a few weeks ago there was a comey story that was completely false that they ran crazy with for the day leading up to the testimony. they were claiming that susan rice had nothing to do with unmasking, which is something that she didn't even claim. and they were also duped on the original dossier story, where they really hyped to that. we know that the stories really have perpetuated this belief that there is a russian conspiracy, that donald trump is a traitor in the white house, and we have had many dollars, much time, much energy wasted on a conspiracy theory for which there really isn't evidence. >> martha: which could prove to be embarrassing for any journalistic organization that has gone too far out on a limb. you can kind of feel on a number of fronts that they are starting to wonder if they went out too far on that limb, and whether or not it's going to come back to bite them. we don't know the final outcome of the story yet. >> and neither did trump when he tweeted about it. so we could call that a misstep, we could call that -- maybe at
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some point we will start calling out lies. cnn is hardly the other one pursuing this line of investigation. the recent news outlets have to do it is because the president won't be up front congress will pursue it really an unserious serious way. if he could just -- if he could work, actually have a special investigation, actually support the federal council, not be constantly trying to undermine the special prosecutor in this investigation, we could just have answers and then it wouldn't have to be this constant obsession. >> none of them has stopped. he heard newt gingrich, why is concerned about that, but i have to live there. mollie hemingway, thank you very much. >> martha: while most of the press corps was lashing out, here's what happened. ♪
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watch. >> it's been my privilege to be here today. it's a very astute question you asked about the issue. i have no idea what you just asked. [laughs] i would always look at an invitation to a party is a good thing. we have a president who believes in an american exceptionalism, america competition, and making america great again. thank you. >> martha: the adoring tweets, official from another planet, charmingly tells the press, why did you get two questions. here's another one. rick perry is having the most fun of anybody that has stood at the podium by a factor of infinity. he's a natural the podium, food for thought. and rick perry for second procedure. thank you for being here on "the
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story." tucker coming up next. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." it's in pretty for a while now that the trump-russia story is essentially bogus. there are some criticisms you can level of the trump administration, a few of them, but collaborating with vladimir putin is not on that list. so why are the other news channels still behaving like this stupid little conspiracy is the moral equivalent of the nuremberg trials? until this morning we can only speculate, and we did, but now we know for sure. project veritas released a video where john bonfield explained that her deal and admitted networks coverage was


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