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thunderbird and workers put together america's sports car 64 years ago today. should news break out, we'll break in. breaking news changes everything. here's neil. >> neil: all right. thank you, shepard, very much. i'm neil cavuto, this is "your world." you can thank me later on, america. it's what i do. the stock mark run-up had everything to do with what we chatted about on fox business network. if you don't get it, demand it. it was in the middle of the day on my afternoon show coast-to-coast when i caught up with john thune, one of the republican leaders. stocks were going nowhere until he made a certain statement about trying to do something by friday. take a look. >> i don't think we want this dragging out through july and into august. we know what the issues are. we have to make decisions and
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start voting. >> neil: stocks shot up on that. that is this. by friday, the republican party hopes to have a reworked senate healthcare measure done, a draft done by friday and scored by the congressional budget office before july 4 or on july 4 itself. they come back a few days after that. and vote on said measure. stocks took off on that. i mean really took off. finishing the day at or near their high point around 143 points northward. again, you're welcome america. you wonder why i called myself a financial super hero. i'm busy ordering lunch much of the day but i have time to look out for you and your money. as does charlie gasparino. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> neil: thank you. >> my 401(k) thank you. >> neil: anything i can do. if this isn't proof that the markets sort of follow this script on how this agenda is
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progressing, we got the proof today. now, the friday timetable, getting it reviewed by the cbo days after that, how doable is all this? >> i think it is doable that something could happen. i'm talking to my congressional sources. they tell me that rand paul is still a no. you know, it's hard to move mike lee and ted cruz into the yes categories. here's where it's going to come down to. this is what i think -- what is being talked about. that fixing healthcare long-term to make at this time most conservative bill ever is going to be an long-term process and you can't build rome in a day here. to hand the president a defeat when he needs momentum to get his tax cuts through would be very damaging to this administration. when, you know, what you really want is a bill that, you know, takes the first steps to dismantle obamacare over the
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long haul. there's no way, even if you wanted to, if you had everybody in agreement, you're going to take it apart in the first 200 days of his administration. it's not going to happen. >> changing it mightily and getting something done by friday, the day after tomorrow, would at least hint of maybe some steps. but certainly not major ones to get the kind of change we're talking about. but would it be enough to sway votes? what would have to be done to sway votes? >> i don't know. i don't think anybody knows. you have to -- think about what is going on here. if y if you appease the conservatives too much, you lose the moderates. what republicans have to come to some consensus about, can we move the ball to the right side of the ledger meaning, you know, more conservative by giving states more rights, by curtailing medicaid to basically be four people that can't afford it. can we move it enough in that
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direction that they can appease everybody. the -- >> neil: you know what i think it's going to take? it comes down to the number of people that will not have health insurance ten years out. even though it's a guest with the cbo, they have to come up with a figure the cbo scores lower than 22 million that would be without insurance. we should stress the plan as it is now means 20 million more will have insurance. it's not the 42 million would be the estimate if they left it alone. still more people can get it, but comes down to that. if they can get that down to single digits, they're off to the races. that will be the decider. i don't think that alone should, but that's the decider. >> it's funny you mentioned that. when i talked to my sources, the cbo says 23 million. that -- when they talk -- that number is -- has some salience
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in this debate. i don't know why it should. we're moving people to the right, we're making sure -- just because they don't get insurance doesn't mean they don't get healthcare. people didn't have insurance in the past -- >> neil: agreed. but that's the game you're playing. a silly game. unrealistic one. you'd assume with this plan fewer people will have more insurance. more will. just not as many if we stuck with what we had. >> i've want everybody to have insurance. but there's a cost analysis here. the conservatives are very much aware of that. i say this. you can just smell it in the markets, neil. that's why the markets are important here. the momentum to get this done, something done gives us the momentum for tax cuts, which these markets are predicated on. >> neil: which is crucial. >> in the republicans hand donald trump a wicked defeat, they'll be hurting the markets and themselves in 2018. you can see it.
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it's baked in. >> neil: that's what you can see. a come-to-jesus moment. >> they should really understand that. if the markets lose 2,000 points because they can't get tax cuts because he lost his trend, that's not donald trump's fault. that's the senate's fault and the republicans. >> neil: we'll see. we're getting ahead of ourselves. you're the best. i appreciate it. you're welcome to the market rally. charlie gasparino. all of this broke on fox business network. i joke about it about the stuff that you mind. in this case, you missed a rally that started with something that we brought up on fox business. it was an opportunity for me to show that. it's just me again. now to ronna mcdaniel. thanks for coming. good to have you. >> thanks for having me, neil. >> neil: let's talk about john thune and what he outlineed and what republicans want to do, get
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something outlined by friday and woos more senators and gets a better read from the cbo before july 4. so soon afterwards, they can vote on that. aggressive timetable? doable? what do you think? >> i think it's doable. i was with many of the senators yesterday. there's a sincere effort among the senate to get this ball rolling and there's a recognition that people are hurting and they're looking to republicans right now to help bring relief to people whose premiums are going up, who have insurance agencies pulling out of their marketplaces. this is a real problem. we have to get this done. it's something we ran on. we have majority in the senate, the house and the white house and we have to deliver. >> how much do republicans pay attention -- there's more protests on capitol hill today. again, the argument being that republicans are out to destroy healthcare, kill hundreds of
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thousands of people. how do you counter these arguments that people people don't challenge, fact check, you name it? >> i think we always have to remember the evolution of how we got here. it was the democrats passing a bill 30,000 pages of legislation with no republican input. they said you can keep your doctor. many people couldn't. they said you can keep your plan. that hasn't happened. premiums have risen. they said it would be affordable. now you have insurance companies pulling out. obamacare is failing. we got here because democrats put something here unsustainable. >> neil: so you're right about citing the problems with the affordable care act that is not affordable, it's failing. but republicans and their plan hasn't even lower approval rating. only 17%. how did that happen? how do you counter that? >> the plan is not fully out there yet.
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what voters need to know, republicans are working to make sure the patient doctor relationship is restored. >> neil: but they're not getting that message. so i'm wondering, what do you do to counter? >> come on your show. we have to get it out there. voters need to know that republicans are working hard to solve this problem. democrats are sitting on the sidelines. they created this problem and they're not helping. we recognize that people are looking for relief. part of the reason we were elected is because people were hurting. i see it all the time. i go home to michigan. i run to people. they say my premiums have doubled. deductibles are so high. i have health insurance but i don't have healthcare. i'm afraid. i'm making choices -- >> neil: they're not the only ones though, right? the money guys, the people that fuel the republican party, are they getting nervous? are they holding off until this is resolved? i know the president will have a big fund raiser tonight down the street in washington.
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he's had no problem raising money, period. do you worry that this is going to cause some to sit on their hands until they see more legislative wins here? >> i think republicans are focused soly on the people that are hurting right now that recognize that the system is collapsing, that people in the near future are not going to have any choice in the marketplace. we've seen these states where they have one insurer left. premiums go up in some cases up to 43%. it's not sustainable for a family to have 200 more dollars added to their monthly bill. they can't do it. we have to find relief for these families. they elected us to do it. it would be great if democrats would come along and help. it would be great to find a way to work together and not make this a political football. it's unfortunate that democrats have no interest in solving a problem that they created. republicans are committed to it. we recognize the urgency. we recognize that people are looking to us to find relief. >> neil: you think the president
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should get more involved in he's an effective communicator. what are meme saying? >> yeah, by having the senators over at the white house. that was amazing. he's saying let's have some conversations. he was in states like michigan, wisconsin, iowa. he was all over the country. he saw this first hand, the suffering that is happening. >> neil: he also said in the first attempt at this on the part of the house it was mean. i know what he meant stepping back here. he doesn't want a mean measure, which can easily be interpreted by system -- >> well, there's a balance. the plans that are coming forward, do you allow pre-existing conditions to stay on insurance? they allow for children up to 26 to stay on their parents' insurance. i shouldn't say children. it's adults up to 26. all of these things we have to
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have a transition so the people are not hurt as this transition takes place from a failing healthcare system to one that is sustainable that will actually restore patient-doctor relationship, that will bring down premiums and bring healthcare closer to the people. >> neil: so if this doesn't work out -- i know you're optimistic -- would you start to worry? the agenda itself could be compromised? >> well, i would worry if this doesn't work out because obamacare is failing and collapsing. i don't think not finding a solution is an option. we have to put something out there that is going to help these people. >> neil: ronna mcdaniel. thank you very much. she's the rnc chair woman. good having you. thank you. >> thanks for having me, neil. >> neil: tomorrow on coast-to-coa coast-to-coast, how real is the threat? i want you to meet a republican donor that is very real. he's not shelling out one more
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york times" that said the president is not engaged in this process on healthcare. that prompted a response by the president as well as allegations that many in congress would prefer to work with the vice president rather than the president. some of the fake news media likes to say that i am not totally engaged in healthcare, the president treated. wrong. he said i know the subject well and want victory for us. it was a subject i brought up with john thune who was at the meeting with the president yesterday. he said the president is fully engaged. take a look. >> is he engaged? did he seem like he was really in the game here? >> i thought he was very engaged. he's much about moving the ball down the field and getting a result. >> all right. to "new york post" columnist michael goodwin that says that kind of thing is important. some of the most successful presidents have been engaged in things they're passionate about. michael, is your argument that
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he's not or not by comparison to some of the others? >> have many ways with "the new york times" especially, it's coverage of donald trump. he's damned if he does and damned if it doesn't. for example, the times recently had a story that he was conceding all of the decision making to the generals on the war in the mideast. several days later, rex tillerson at the state department was being undercut by the white house. so he's a micro manager in one case to a fault, delegates to a fault. on healthcare, he's not engaged. the unstated comparison to president obama who the times worshipped. but look at the healthcare that president obama created, the mess that came it from. when the president said you can keep your doctor, you can keep this plan, did he not know what was in the bill for all of his engagement? or was he lying? so i think that this comparison
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that the times sets up has been unstated that trump is wrong. trump is doing it the wrong way. the other people always did it right. trump always does it wrong. whatever it is. so i find it, the whole premise, just part of the demonization of donald trump. >> neil: i agree with that. that they'll jump at any potential negative there. but i regular covering the ronald reagan tax cuts at the time. he was quite involved in that. he has a reputation years later, but he knew every intricacy and every congressman that he had to win over, particularly the southern democrats. he knew what he had to do. he shepparded the process every inch of the way. does this president need to do the same? not get so knee deep, but enough that hi can argue the points and force the debate? >> i think he will know enough.
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i don't think that donald trump is likely to get too deeply into the weeds. ronald reagan was a governor of california. ronald reagan had been around the government for a long time. donald trump is a whole new kind of animal to come into the political system. >> neil: that need is still there. >> absolutely. >> neil: i think of john kennedy when he was shepparding tax cuts through and facing resistance in his own party and he had to depend on republicans. there was a history to suggest and you're rights, kennedy's case, despite his age, he had experience in the senate. but he knew what he had to do. does donald trump know what he has to do or is he going to look at this, expend some effort here and if this doesn't pass, i'm going to tax cuts? >> we'll judge this on the results. >> neil: absolutely.
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>> the process can make it look one way. this is what he did with the house folks. he had the house members over. they weren't going to get the votes. he brought them over. they got to a majority and got it through the house. we'll see. in the senate it's a trickier situation. the margin is slimmer. you can't afford to lose so many. but i think he's working as he should to line up people and to make them all understand the bigger picture. i think that is the interest he's serving here most effectively. >> neil: this is what wins pulitzer prizes. thanks, michael. >> my pleasure. >> neil: i don't know where to begin or stop with nancy pelosi. first she said that hundreds of thousands -- she started to say millions are going to die as a result of this republican plan. now she's brought god into it by saying they're dishonoring god. so not only are they killing people but they're going to hell after this. rescription does have a few side effects. oh, like what? ♪ you're gonna have dizziness,
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>> we do know that the -- many people -- millions -- hundreds of thousands will die if this bill passes. any person that you can name suffers greatly from what the republicans are doing. it's impossible to exaggerate the harmless that this will cause. >> this is god's creation. we have a moral responsibility to it. to minister to the needs of god's creation as an act of worship. to ignore those needs is to dishonor the god that made us. >> neil: so all right. what nancy pelosi is saying, the republicans will also kill people but guaranteed to go to hill. to add god into this fight of healthcare and now 40 people have been arrested in the healthcare protests that have been continuing for a second day
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in senate office buildings, at least 40. whether they subscribe to that view that republicans are heartless but now godless. let's go to brie peyton. what do you think? >> it's hilarious to see what nancy pelosi thinks what god wants. she thinks the catholic church thinks abortion is fine and they haven't come down on it one way or the other, which goes against 2,000 years of church teaching so when it comes to what god wants, i won't take nancy pelosi's word. as a christian, i'm offended at this line of reasoning. i think god came down to effort to save us from our since. reducing him as someone that is supposed to weigh-in on healthcare policy is redactic and offensive. >> neil: yeah, either way, leave
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god out of it. god takes notes myself. i have no idea about that stuff she said. but anyway, leaving that aside, the way it's portrayed is republicans are heartless and mean. what i've argued and what you've and i have got into this before, the money behind the affordable care act and is just looking like an act. premium going through the roof, people paying huge deductibles to get to it a level they can afford. that's the heartless and the mean stuff that the republicans are trying to address. the republican efforts, you know, have serious problem but they wouldn't be out there if it wasn't for the problem created by obamacare itself. >> you're right. we could apply this same logic to obamacare as you just said, which priced many americans out of the healthcare market. one of my co-workers has an obamacare plan. here premiums went up 96%.
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most people can't afford that. we can apply the same logic to that. these are the same people that they're just above the poverty line, so they have to and are mandated to get coverage. if they don't, they have to pay a penalty. we could apply this same logic and go around in circles. for them to say that this is to kill people is so mean. this logic is very ridiculous and over the top and a lot of americans are sick and tired being talked to like they're stupid. >> neil: or that if you have any -- i'm sorry. or if you have any concern about this, you're heartless or clueless. the arrests coming out of capitol hill, those that say that, the republican efforts to sort of change this. this is their way of saying, look, what republicans are coming up with is tantamount to murder. how do you counter an argument like that? >> well, i think you couldn't counter an argument by saying simply that you're wrong. denying someone medicaid is not
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going to kill them. people die on medicaid all the time. we need to say that coverage isn't the same thing as healthcare. many people who are on medicaid, they get denied coverage and treatment from doctors all the time because of reimbursement for healthcare professionals is crumby, right? a lot of times they're forced to go to emergency rooms and wait times have expanded very drastically, right? a lot of people in emergency rooms who are waiting to get seen and die while they're in the waiting room, right? so i think you can say that logic is unfair and wrong. and we need to talk about things as they are. >> neil: as they are is right. thanks very much. brie peyton looking at some of these protests going on on the hill. i want to put this in perspective. if you want to play the emotional game and tug at heart strings for the wrong reason, you're not addressing what ales the affordable care act as we speak. the issue isn't what republicans
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are coming up with. the issue is what we already have. the math, my friends. remember what i told you? the math doesn't support it. higher premiums are happening. higher deductibles are happening. lack of coverage that can't be afforded across the board because it's one size fits all is not sustainable. math tells you that. god didn't have to. more after this. (baby crying)
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>> neil: all right. if you're flying in from many of the hundreds of countries into the united states, watch your laptop. you'll be lucky if they allow you to take one. gets ready, it's going to get worse. more after this.
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>> neil: all right. we're going to have more on new security procedures for laptops, not necessarily a ban but are we going to make it difficult to take a laptop on a plane. we'll get to that in a second. we have another massive cyber attack to tell you about. particularly hit on power grids. fox business network's tracy carrasco with more. tracy? >> this cyber attack is known as petya. it's believed to have started in the ukraine where government businesses and officials reported interference to the power grid, government offices, banks and stores. the chernobyl nuclear plant was affected. staff had to switch to manually monitoring radiation levels because they couldn't access
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their computers. new regulations reports that computer systems of one american nuclear power plan has been affected. dozens of countries have been hit so far in russia. the top oil producers, merck in denmark and an a.p. terminal on the outscores of mumbai. and merck was the first major u.s. company impacted by the ransomwa ransomware. computers would receive a message like this before demanding a payment, this time, $300 in bitcoin. security experts say this attack is similar to last month's attack. systems that did not perform necessary microsoft security patches made for easy targets.
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a microsoft spoke person says we're continuing to investigate and will take appropriate actions to protect customers. neil? >> tracee thanks very much. now a crack down on laptops. not that you can't use them but you'll have to go through hoops from a lot of countries, better than 100 coming from there to here. could be a matter of time before it affects those here going through. fred, the problem is lab tops could be a problem and used for other means including nefarious ones. so this cut back on their use. what we don't know is whether this will be an outright ban. we do know it involves better than 100 countries and better than 325,000 passengers what do you think? >> two thoughts on this. it appears the trump administration came across fairly compelling intelligence on a new security threat.
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it's a good thing they're acting on it. more important, this is a sign that radical islamic terrorists like al-quaida and isis, they have not given up in their efforts to identify security vulnerabilities to stage a particular act of terror. they're looking at the transportation system and trying to find the loop holes to blow up an airliner. >> for people that depend on an airline, they travel for a long time, particularly flights from europe to asia and into the united states, what will that mean? >> well, the way i read this right now, airports that did not have enhanced security flights from those airports will not be allowed to fly to the united states. so basically you'll have to play ball with the united states on enhanced screenings of laptops or you can't bring them on the plane. >> it's one thing to show that they work but they might look at
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the innereds of the darn things. >> i have some ideas on how this might be done. i don't want to get into it. you're right. it will have to be a more sophisticated screening. it's not enough just to turn the machine on. >> one of the things that you mentioned, must be in response to intelligence, you know, homeland security secretary kelly has intimated as much, that there's a security crackdown going on. so say what you will, something is feared happening at airports on airlines or both. we've had airport attacks. what do you see shaping up or terrorists would still set their sights on what are some of the most protected places on earth? >> blowing up an airliner is the gold standard for terrorist groups. this is what they want to do. they're looking at every possibility of doing it. i think they have gone through
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various things at security services keep stopping, a lop top has a lot of space inside it. let's say older laptos especially. there may be a way that terrorist groups have found to put a powerful explosive in one of these devices. >> neil: and do you look at these things that we're at a heightened risk of an attack? >> there's a greater threat of the types of attacks that we saw in london and in brussels and other places. less sophisticated attacks, killing civilians and running them down with vehicles, this is easier to do for the terrorist groups. that's probably the priority. >> neil: fred, thanks very much. as fred was talking, we're getting a bulletin from the "wall street journal." nothing to do with this. good news on banks. the federal reserve is
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apparently cleared all big banks and their capital return plans. if everything hit the fan, they put them through these motions. like if we had a meltdown like in 2008, early 2009, would they survive? do they have much the cash on hand to deal with something like that? for the first time since the crisis, the fed is saying now they do. that should be presumably good news for those that want to make sure it doesn't happen again. of course, something like this does happen again. when everything hits the fan, the fed is saying they're ready. loretta lynch and bill clinton, the tarmac meeting, still waiting for the hearings i'm sure just any day.
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>> neil: wow! how time flies. you remember this famous video a year after former attorney general loretta lynch met with president bill clinton on a tarmac in phoenix no less? remember that? it was at the height of the
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clinton e-mail probe. no hearings, not even close. comparing anything on russia related or investigations into russian salad dressing. 50 hearings on anything connected with russia. not one on this. that looks like video. i'm just saying. looks a little awkward. anyway, what does ohio republican jim jordan think? i'm saying have at it with russia hearings if that's what people want. but even one on this? what the heck? >> she not only met with bill clinton on the tarmac and did interview secretary clinton, shes will told the fbi direct or the to mislead the american people. she said call the matter not an investigation even though it was an investigation. >> neil: that was explosive. i remember when he said that. i thought that will prompt a call for hearings the next day. what happened?
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>> that's what we're calling for. he not only misled the american people then, he did it willfully and at the direction of the attorney general, misleading the american people. but this year he mislead the american people again when he furthered the perception that president trump was under investigation when in fact he wasn't and had been told three times by james comey that he wasn't being investigated. for those reasons, even dianne feinstein has said we should have hearings and look into the lynch comey matter. so we did an oped we think it how old happen in the house judiciary committee. >> neil: the bar for hearings is inconsistent them. yes, for anything having to do with russia, which is fine. that's the way you went to go. 50 is much. but fine. but not one, not even a brief question and answer at a house of pancakes across the street, anything to at least look into
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how odd this would appear because i mean, the bomb shell news from comey saying that the attorney general of the united states preferred that he call this a matter. that alone to say nothing on the video of these two meeting on a plane and at the time and presumably discussing grandchildren? that alone stretches things. >> he misled the american people twice. then he gets fired and he leaked a memo with the stated goal of creating momentum to get a special prosecutor. not just any special prosecutor, his mentor, predecessor, bob mueller. that's what james comey did. we're not going to have hearings on that? for goodness sake, let's do it. you can get a special counsel when james comey's reputation is on the line and someone in the justice and the fbi pushes for it? remember, neil, we couldn't get a special counsel -- i did the resolution. the resolution calling for a
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special counsel on the irs investigation. no. couldn't get one thing. >> neil: but besides these things, you guys are in the majority and the house -- >> the justice department decides. unfortunately, the attorney general holder, attorney general lynch wouldn't appoint a special counsel in the irs investigation or the clinton investigation. that's a problem. that's why again, we should come back to this and have hearings. >> neil: you mentioned director comey, congressman. now we know how he feels about president trump. he didn't trust him. thought he was a liar. he thought he would inflate things. imagine had he not been fired and imagine knowing these other details that would have never come to our attention. and he would be leading this investigation right now on president trump and if there's any russia connection to the president or his people. that's weird. we now know where he's coming
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from. >> and why he did take over the clinton investigation last summer. why the justice department, even when you think about irs case. barbara bossman was targeting the investigation. a maxed out contributor to the president's campaign. said nope, doesn't matter. not a special counsel there but we'll have one here. james comey was involved in all of this. i want him underest again. i'd like to ask him a lot of questions and former attorney general lynch questions as well. i hope it happens soon. >> he's turning over all of his memos we're told to that senate investigation. what do you make of that? >> that's one thing that chairman goodlatte said he's requesting those documents that information. i want that as soon as possible and look at it. remember, we only think he did one memo. what about the other big decisions like shortly after the attorney general meets with clinton on the tarmac?
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that is valuable information as well. >> you have the video in that case. the two of them meeting on a plane. >> exactly. >> thanks, congressman. >> you bet. >> neil: you're probably used to the contention white house briefings, everybody gets their nose out of joint. and then there's rick perry. i don't know if he wants a demotion and become press secreta secretary. after his performance yesterday, a star was born after this.
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>> two questions for you. you mentioned -- >> why do you all get two questions? is this the kind of the game we play now? >> i have no idea what you just
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asked. [laughter] >> i come from a place with a lot of energy. so the french who i have always thought were a little bit different. >> you famously said of candidate trump that his candidacy was a cancer on co -- conservatism. >> that has nothing to do with today. i always like to an invitation on the party a good thing. >> neil: that was the tour deforce. rick perry, the energy secretary. the long-term governor of texas blowing it away in a press conference right now that had a press corps smitten and overwhelmed. done with humor and wit and at a time when people were focused on
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the machinations of the healthcare senate. too bad, kennedy. what do you make of that? >> hi, neil. a producer is in my ear right now. can't hear what you're saying. >> neil: they always say you're doing a horrible job. you're doing a horrible job. as if i can't hear them. >> i'm with rick perry at this myment. i'm going to take control like he did. that's how you do it. the president's communications team has had a difficult time with the press lately. but rick perry walked into that room. he disarmed them with some barbs. he had some surprisingly robust opinions about climate change and the french, as you saw. in fact -- >> neil: with a lot of humor. you're a big believer in that. that goes a long way. >> it does. it goes a long way when you disarm. he took control. he also answered some questions long form to the point where when he left the podium, they were begging for him to come back. the members of the press were like no, mr. secretary, please
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come back as he was escorted away. >> neil: i remember the late great tony snow. he had a great sense of humor. he could handle the barbs in the praise of j.f.k. but the humor does go a long way. i know we live in tense times. but it wouldn't hurt now and then to, you know, inject a little humor into things, right? >> no, absolutely. it also shows what happens when you engage with the press with a commanding presence. a lot of people had forgotten about rick perry. he had a difficult time on presidential debate stages in a couple of different elections. here he seemed to feed off the energy in the room and is actually a little more comfortable as energy secretary than a lot of people would have given him credit for who haven't seen him. >> neil: but he was honest. the one question -- how many times does a press secretary of
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any administration -- where are we going here? it was in a funny way to say all right, you're going over my head. i don't understand what is going on in yours. >> neil: that was the combative journalist that got into it with -- and he had a good laugh about it. >> he did. the energy secretary said i have no idea what you're saying to me, which is something that we say to our kids when they ask about something in a way that we can't comprehend. he said you have one chance to get this right and then i'm moving on. >> neil: should the president show some of that zing back? >> so many of the most memorable moments the president has with the press are when he engages with them and throws back. it's also when he tends to get in trouble. but certainly the most entertaining moments. >> neil: i remember ronald reagan made fun of -- you're an actor and overrated. but he said but i'm president, aren't i? a funny way to handle it. kennedy, always funny and smart
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at the same time. thank you very much. >> you're the greatest living human, neil cavuto. >> neil: producer is saying get out of here. you're boring people. more after this. your insurance company
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>> i am kat timpf with eric bolling and eboni q williams. we are "the fox news specialists" ." a new deadline for senate republicans health care bill after delaying the vote yesterday. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is pushing to get a new health care deal in place friday. after nine republican senators have expressed opposition to the original legislation. president trump sounded optimistic. >> we are working very hard, giving ourselves more time to make it perfect. that's what we want to do.

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