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brave men and women, their sacrifices for our freedom. thanks for being with us. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. ♪ >> this is a fox news alert. i am bret baier in washington on this fourth of july. it is a ballistic ballistic mit holiday fireworks, that has the attentions of americans and because of their around the world. north korea says it has successfully tested its first intercontinental ballistic missile. u.s. officials now concede that thece north koreans may have changed the entire dynamic with his launch. while the u.s. intelligence community is not sure how far the communist north is in its effort to miniaturize a nuclear weapon to put on a missile, they now say the test firing last night might have been able to reach alaska. reports from the region suggest it was launched from a mobile
launcher, providing yet another challengehe for the u.s. correspondent kevin corke has the breaking details and reaction tonight from the white house. good evening. >> happy independence day to you. you are right. a dramatic day at the white house. senior trump administration officials seem to be considering their options in dealing with north korea in response to that provocation. this is very interesting, when you consider the administration has long talked about what it might do should north korea finally be able to reach u.s. oil. of course, they are looking for a true response to the latest provocation from pyongyang. it was a historic first for the rogue regime. for a little more than half an hour and intercontinental ballistic missile fired from north korea blasted across the asian sky before coming down in the sea of japan. a 568-mile long journey that could go much farther and shaping future u.s. policy in the region. that launch, tracked by u.s. pacific command, took to the sky at a approximately 2:40
hawaii time. it was deemed not to pose a threat to north america but further analysis suggests with a popped on my possible range of 4,000 miles, a similar launch code strike alaska. also, for the first time, the north used a mobile launcher, making it much more difficult for the u.s. to track and disrupt future tests. >> this is the top is national security issue we face today. negotiation is always an option but i see no signs that they are willing to come to the table. just look at what they did to otto warmbier. this is a regime that is not acting in a way that would lead to diplomacy. >> reaction from the commander in chief, coming by way of twitter, "north korea has just launched in other missle. does this guy have anything better to do with his life? hard too believe that south kora and japan will put up with us muchs longer. perhapss china will put a heavy move on north korea and end this nonsense once and for all." the tweets, the latest iteration of the president's threadbare
tolerance of kim jong-un's's dangerous chicanery, which poses threats to the homeland. speak ofnd the of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed. many years, and it's failed. frankly, that patience is over. >> despite a robust impetus, the reliance on trying to quell the, nuclear ambitions has produced precious little. >> i do like president of china, i wish we would have a little more help with respect to north korea from china, but that doesn't seem to be working out. >> that hasn't stopped beijing and even moscow for marketing to de-escalate tensions between washington and pyongyang. the respective foreign ministries issued a joint statement today, saying that russia and china will work in close coordination to advance a solution to the complex problem of the korean peninsula in every possible way. this, as the majority of americans are. buried in the
latest fox news poll, believe president trump hasn't been tough enough on north korea. 56% in that survey right there. by the way, this ends a fox new fox news -- nikki haley has requested an emergency meeting. sources telling us of that meeting will take place sometime on wednesday afternoon. >> bret: kevin corke live on the north lawn. thank you. the trump white house iss just the latest in a long line of administrations that has tried to deal with north korea. chief washington correspondent james rosen tells us how we got here. >> in korea, hope spread with the armistice. >> the armistice that ended the korean war brought an uneasy truce to the peninsula but established an implacable eminent doll my enemy to the united states and north korea, stalin dictatorship ruled by the corrupt and brutal kim dynasty. president clinton launch negotiations that climaxed in
1994's agreed framework, under which the north agreed to freeze its plutonium program in exchange for fuel and economic aid and the construction of two light water reactors. >> this agreement is good for united states. good for our allies. >> in time, however, u.s. intelligence with the discover the pakistaniak nuclear scientit was running a nuclear bazaar for rogue states. >> the bush-cheney administration confronted north korea about its nuclear work in the regime admitted it. the under secretary was john bolton. >> when the negotiators of the agreed framework were confronted on this reality, and the absurdity of giving north korea light water reactors, their argument was, they had believed that the north korean regime would collapse before they got to nuclear weapons. >> inn the six party talks that followed, with russia and china participating, then secretary of state condoleezza wright and ada chris hill believed they had secured the dismantlement of north koreant's entire apparatu,
and exchange for aid to. >> we need to get out of thees business in producing nuclear weapons. >> the demolition of a tower and north korea seemed like a good faith measure, but a declaration intended to show the north it 'is compliant, instead containing traces of the enriched uranium that they deny they have and the nuclear program accelerated, with the first nuclear device detonatedhe in 2006, followed by four moreover the obama era. >> the threat is much more immediate. it is clear that we can't repeat the same approach, failed approach, of the past. >> rather than pressing our strategy to the point of some kind ofoi miscalculation on the part of the north koreans or others, for that matter, the important thing would be to keep thehi pressure on the chinese to try to see if we can't get north korea to the negotiating table.ti >> but president trump has effectively written off the chinese as a useful intermediary
with the north koreans, our defective policy for the last decade or so. the commander in chief tweeting last month "it has not worked out, at least i know china tried." bret. >> bret: thank you. more analysis of just a moment about the north korean situation.en in the meantime, president trump leaves tomorrow for the g20 summit in hamburg germany comet over here were he will meet on the sidelines with his counterparts. from china and russia. correspondent kristin fisher has a preview from warsaw, poland. >> president trump lands in the polish capital wednesday we hail find an audience that is open tp his brand of politics. >> poland is a government that is like wind and withdrawn. they have a conservative government that is also favoring restrictive immigration policies. it has been concerned that the trump administration isn't fully committed to helping nato fight at. >> if nato countries made their full and complete contributions, then, nato would be evenn stronger than it is today.
>> and may come of the president admonished nato allies that don't spend 2% of their gdp on defense. poland barely meets the minimum. one of only five nations that do. the alliance has pledged an additional $12 billion this year after president trump challenged them. >> right now, there are at least 1,000 u.s. troops in poland, a fourth of the total number dedicated to nato's operation, the show of force that really ramped up back in 2014 after russian backed forces invaded ukraine, results of a u.s. back to missile defense system that is out to go on my next year. by the polish government is still going to want president trump to take a very hard-line when he meets face to face for the very first time with russian r president vladimir putin at the g20 20 sut on friday. >> he has to choose whether he will prioritize the nato alliance, prioritize transatlantic security and standing with european countries, to deter russia, or
prioritize improved relations with russia. >> the president may look to improve relations with european allies, too, specifically german chancellor angela merkel. >> the times in which we can fully count on others are somewhat over. >> the president and the german chancellor clashed over the u.s. withdraw from the climate, climate accord. the president is open to renegotiating the climate agreement or a starting work on her new one. but it will be the meeting with putin, amid allegations russia influenced the 2016 u.s. election, that will put the presidents diplomacy to the test. >> to the extent that it looks like trump is too eager to smooth things over with prudent and just cooperate wither russi, despite russian bad behavior, he will be subject to domestic criticism here at home. >> once again, balancing hisit brand of politics with criticism abroad. in warsaw, kristin fisher, fox news.
>> bret: while north korea remains the most pressing and urging foreign policy issue facing the u.s. and the trump administration, the middle east is far from calm. qatar remains defiant in thef face of neighbors who have placed sanctions on the country for its import of terrorism andh extremism. our correspondence has the latest on the stand out from our middle east newsroom. >> the clock is ticking and qatar still hasn't accepted a list of demands from four major arab countries, but today, qatar announced that it is producing more liquefied natural gas, 30% more over the coming years. perhaps, a message that qatar is preparing for more energy independence, if the fight with saudi arabia, the united arab emirates, bahrain, and egypt, continues. asked if that can mean shutting out the natural gas valves to the uae, a major importer, the head of qatar state on petroleum said... >> this is a decision that what must not only be made by qatar,
but also for the government, and, of course, depends on thery situation in the country. >> the gulf states and aged cut diplomatic ties with qatarwi ju june 5th, accusing it of supporting egypt, syria, and libya, and providing asylum to their leaders. they gave qatar ten days to comply with the demands, including down shutting down "al jazeera," cutting down ties with iran. the deadline was extended 48 hours on monday. if an agreement isn't reached, they could impose financial sanctions on or before qatar out of the gulf cooperation council, seen as a counterbalance to iran. the foreign minister delivered a handwritten letter to kuwait, who is mediating the crisis, it is unclear what it said. but if today's announcement is any indication, it may not necessarily happen good. it's petroleum company presidents of the 1 million-barrel per day increase of natural gas will comeme from the country's massie
underwater field in the persian gulf, a field shared with iran. the foreign minister said today that his country has shown goodwill an end good initiative for a constructive solution. though, he didn't elaborate on thatre. the foreign ministers of bahrain, egypt, saudi arabia and the uae will meet in cairo wednesday to discuss the next step in the ongoing disputes. >> bret: john huddy in the middle eastern newsroom. in other foreign headlines, u.s. backed forces in syria have breached the wall around raqqa's old city.ia senior pentagon officialsnd tell us that r the major advance in the weeks old battle to drive isis militants from their i self-declared capital. in iraq, that countries forces with u.s. backing are continuing their steady advance against the last isis stronghold in mosul. the prime minister says the civilians have rejected terrorists. the remaining militants trapped in the old city are now in a fight to the death. in caracas, venezuela, the supreme court has taken another step in undermining the country's chief prosecutor.
the panel has named a prosecutor once sanctioned by the u.s. to be the nation's number two law enforcement official. venezuelan president nicolas maduro's government has stripped congress of its powers. massive demonstrations against the government continue. a lot to cover across the world let's talk about theor president's foreign policy challenges, the most pressing of course north korea. elliott engrams is senior p felw for middle eastern studies at the council on foreignli relations. michael hanlon at the brookingst institution. gentlemen, standby. we received a statement from rex tillerson, in part it reads. on the north korean situation. "united states strongly condemns north koreans launch of an intercontinental ballisticti missile. testing an icbm represents a new escalation of the threat to the united states. our allies and partners, the region, and the world.
global action is required to stop a global threat. any country that hosts north korean guestworkers, provides any economic or military benefits, or fails to fully implement u.n. security council resolutions is aiding and abetting a dangerous regime. all nations should publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences to theiry pursuit of nuclear weapons. we intend to bring north korea's provocative action before the u.n. security council and enact stronger measures to hold the dprk accountable. the united states seeks only a peaceful denuclearization of the korean peninsula and the end ofe threatening actions by north korea. as we, along with others have made clear, we will never accept a nuclear armed north korea. the president and his national security team are continuing to assess the situation in close coordination with our allies and partners."
statement just moments ago, as i was introducing you, from secretary of state rex tillerson. michael, your thoughts on that? >> well, my first thought is this sounds like an intensification of the economic pressure.pr if one listens to mr. tillerson's comments, hen' reminds other countries they have obligations about north korean workers, presumably about the kind of business they do with north korea. it suggests that secretary tillerson is aware that there probably are no good military options. we can try to shoot down missiles before they are launched but that risks escalation and might not be possible. if it's a mobile missile launcher, as he reported 15 or 20 minutes ago. we don't know where the missile is launched from. the economic instruments, however unsuccessful they have been so far, may still be our best recourse. if the whole world gets behind it. >> bret: in conjunction with b the statement, at the same time, we are getting news from south korea that the u.s., along with south korea, holding joint ballistic missile drills.ha
in response toll north korea's icbm tests. south korea media reporting. >> we are going to find out if there is the u.n. security council session nikki haley wants. where are the russians and chinese? are they going to be willing to have additional sanctions on north korea or do they want more talk and we have to do this alone? i think flying over north korea is a good thing to do but the question really is, are we going to get serious about financial and economic sanctions? we were for a while, ten years ago in the bush administration. we let up on them. what i -- if you are a bank doing business with north korea, you are out. no more business with the u.s. that is significant sanctions but that would affect china, chinese banks. are we going to do that? that's the kind of tough measura we should be willing to take. >> bret: is that what you hear in the statement? >> unclear. tough talk but are we willing to
go forward with that? it's going to interfere with u.s.-chinese commercial and financial relationships. that's the question were going to find out in a day or two. are we willing to do it? >> bret: to your point about the mobile launch if, in fact, that's true, experts in the region say that's what they see in the photographs. it adds another dynamic to the challenge, not only with the icbm that can reach alaska, a two-stage missile, but also the fact that they can move them around and we wouldn't be able to stop them before they are launched. >> with the threat so far, some of those missiles might not have made it but we would have seen them prepared for launch. you can see the preparation and preempt. would've had the option at least in war, even if not in peacetime. secretary carter, secretary perry wrote an op-ed in 2006
saying we should consider that even in peacetime. so, we have those kind of options with a fixed launch site.of you don't have that option nearly as easily with a mobile missile. you may be able to try to shoot it down in the ascent phase but you may not see it as it's prepared. >> bret: president trump is getting ready to go to the g20. along the sidelines, he will he is going to have the first official bilateral with have the first official bilateral meeting with president putin. since 2015, between the u.s. and russia. it comes as putin meets with chinese president xi talking in part about north korea. here is a sound bite from earlier. >> translator: as a part of mutual bilateral priorities, with a goal to guarantee peace and stability in northeast asia, we agreed to actively develop our mutual initiative. g based on russia's step-by-step plan for korean settlement and
chinese ideas, at the same time, freezing the nuclear capabilities of dprk and large-scale military exercise by the u.s. and the republic of korea. >> bret: again, he says no more exercises. the u.s. obviously is doing something tonight with south korea. >> this is an important meeting. the first kennedy-khrushchev meeting,n khrushchev decided kennedy was a wimp and that led to a crisis in relations. the critical thing here is that we say no to putin on that because they have been trying for decades to get us to stopbe doing military exercises with south korea. they want us out of there. if we agree to that, it's a terrible beginning of the relationship between putin and trump.th i hope he rejects it. >> bret: quickly, this has changed the dynamic. this is a different level we are at right now. true? >> i think so. i agree with elliott. if we could get a freeze on nuclear production that we can verify or that the chinese and russians and other third parties could verify, i would consider a freeze for freeze but the one
thing offered now is not favorable to america. >> bret: elliott, on this other topic not getting a lot of coverage, the battle between qatar and the other gulf states. about what's going to happen ane for qatar, possibly supporting extremism and terrorism. >> the qataris need to come at least halfway. they need to stop doing what they are doing. if this results in the end of the gulf cooperation council, it is a gift to iran and we should be working hard to avoid that. it would help if we had a state department full of diplomats and one of the problems is secretary tillerson is a kind of a one-man band. we've got no assistant secretary for asia or the near east. it makes it hard to do all this diplomacy. >> bret: fortuitous fourth of july to have you in. happy independence day. up next, the tragic story of a terribly ill british child and how president trump and the pope are trying to help. ♪
♪ >> bret: president trump and pope francis attempted to help a british child. he is suffering from a rare and deadly illness. the story is in the international spotlight and with that, all of the international politics around it. benjamin hall has the story from london. >> 11-month-old charlie gard was born with a rare genetic disease. his brain is damaged and he is currently on life support. now, doctors and lawyers, against the wishes of his parents, who want to spend as much time with him as possible, have said it's time to switch it off and let him die.
>> the reality is charlie can't see, can't hear, can't move, can't cry, he can't swallow. >> his parents fought the european court of human rights after british courts ruled against them. >> permission to appeal must be refused. >> his parents who have raised $1.7 million towards his case, lost another bid, this time to take him to the u.s. for experimental therapy after judges ruled continued treatment would cause significant harm to charlie. their lawyer responded. >> they are facing every parent's worst nightmare. struggling to understand why the court has not given the chance of treatment in america. the medical evidence is complex and the treatment offered potentially groundbreaking. >> president trump has weighed in. after members of his administration spoke to the parents. yesterday, he tweeted this. "if we can help little charlie gard, we
would be delighted to do so." the vatican intervened, with pope francis praying. the case has reminded many of a right to die legal case in florida. it pitted family against courts. her brother released a statement saying "charlie gard's life is more valuable than british or european bureaucrats realize." this is a tragic ethical and legal issue, which fits on one side, medical institution and courts against charlie gard's parents and their wishes on another. it's also a topic which divides whole nations. bret. >> bret: benjamin hall in london. thank you. more on this with the panel. millions of americans are spending the fourth of july away from home. one of the reasons, cheap gasoline prices. this brings up two gasoline taxes or the possibility of the them.
the federal rate has not been changed in decades. state governments are making moves on their own. allison barber shows us. >> a big chunk of travelers this weekend are griping out of town, according to aaa. 2.9% more drivers than last fourth of july. experts say it's partly because gas across the country is cheaper, roughly $0.04 cheaper. how long will it last? in a may interview, president trump said he would consider increasing the federal gas tax. the white house seemed to backtrack shortly after. >> there was no endorsement of it or support of it. he was relaying what another industry group has shared with him. about how to pay for the roads and bridges that need to be repaired. >> on average, the american petroleum institute says americans pay a little more than $0.49 in federal and state taxes on every gallon in gas. with diesel, it is $0.55 per gallon.
>> the gas tax essentially finances the highway trust fund. it's the most significant source of funding for building and improving federal highways with some help from the states. >> the last time lawmakers raised the federal gas tax was 1993. it hasn't been adjusted for inflation. the congressional budget office says by 2021, the highway trust fund will not have enough money to fulfill its obligations. republicans like speaker of the house paul ryan, senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, and wyoming senator john barrasso say they are against increasing the federal gas tax. democrats like chris murphy are for it. in a "new york times" op-ed, chicago mayor rahm emanuel called on president trump to increase it by $0.10. issue. not a cut and dry partisan issue. tom rice, a republican, supported a significant increase in the federal gas tax and introduced legislation to do it in 2015. >> congress doesn't want to raise it because it's unpopular with motorists. deservedly so, because so much
of the gas tax is squandered on non-highway needs. >> states have their own gas tax as well. as of july 1, 10 states have increased the gas tax. some by as much as $0.10. bret. >> bret: allison barber live here in d.c. tonight on this fourth of july, some stories about america's heroes. first, the man who risked his life to save others and the effort to get him recognition many believe is long overdue. here is lucas tomlinson at the pentagon. >> that's where i was at. >> donald stratton is 1 of 5 uss arizona survivors from the pearl harbor attack still living. >> we got hit with a big bomb and it exploded like a million pounds of ammunition. the fireball went about 60,
70 feet in the air. the explosion could have taken us away but it didn't. >> trapped aboard a sinking battleship, he and five others managed to escape which killed more than 1,000 shipmates. with the help of a fellow sailor who threw them a lifeline from a ship near it. with burns over 60% of his body, he had to escape the burning warship. >> we went across the line, 60, 70 feet. that was the tough part. he kept saying come on, you can make it. >> the man who rescued him, joe george. in his book, stratton described joe as "the strongest man in the harbor." he disobeyed orders and threw stratton the line. his granddaughter says that she owes her life to him and her grandfathers because of the young sailor's actions that day.
>> we have for generations here because of that man, 14 people in our family who wouldn't necessarily be here without joe george. >> stratton didn't know who saved his life until later when his family asked the navy to investigate. and to give interviews from sailors who were at pearl harbo pearl harbor. that's when they discovered their hero's name, joe george. more than 75 years later, stratton wants him recognized. >> here he was. he saved six people's lives and didn't get anything. somebody in washington should half the gods and honor to take care of it. >> he feels so strongly that joe george deserves a medal that he and another survivor are coming to washington this month to press lawmakers to act. they hope president trump will intervene. bret. >> bret: thank you. north korea pushes president trump's buttons again and now an official u.s. response. we will get reaction from the panel when we come back. ♪
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>> at the same time, freezing the nuclear capabilities of the d prk in large-scale, military exercises by the united states, and republic of korea. >> the era of strategic patience with the north korean regime has failed. many years and it's failed. frankly, that patience is over. the united states calls on other regional powers and all responsible nations to join us in implementing sanctions and demanding that the north korean regime choose a better path and do it quickly and a different future for its long-suffering people. >> bret: that wass president trump friday. this happened last night. a firing of an icbm, intercontinental ballistic missile. by the north koreans. just within this hour, the secretary of state has released a statement, saying, in part,
"global actions to solve a global threat. aiding and abetting a dangerous regime. all nations should publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences to their pursuit of nuclear weapons and n we attempt toor bring north korea's provocative actions before the u.n. security council." take a look at where the icbm traveled. it was a splash down about 480 miles away but believed that the missile, two-stage midsole, could reach alaska. that's the big question, about whether north korea has been able to miniaturize its nuclear weapons to put it on the tip of one of these missiles and this has changed the dynamic because this icbm could reach the united states. just within the past hour, in this show,
the u.s. announced their joint exercises ongoing with the south koreans. to test what they are calling the army tactical missile system. in response to this. this is ongoing. we expect to have video from the military momentarily of this u.s.-south korean h test. of their antiballistic missile efforts. kim jong-un obviously celebrating what he is seeing is a major, major change invi the dynamic here. let's bring in the panel. tim farley, daniel halper, michael needham, syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. okay, charles, read between the lines. secretary tillerson's statement and the actions u.s. is taking. >> i think the juxtaposition of the two clips illustrates the issue and the reason why the
tillerson statement comes out rather ineffective. putin is talking about using this crisis as a way to detach the united states from south korea. in other words, china and russia together want to see an end to the u.s.-south korean alliance. they want to use the issue as a kind of exchange in order to do that. we see this and we should see this as a direct threat to the security of the united states. it is an icbm that can hit u.s. territory and that would be absolutely catastrophic. we have completely different understandings of what the threat is and tillerson's statement simply says it's not a u.s. problem. it's a global problem. it's not. it's a u.s. problem.ot the global partners we talk about are not that interested. n solving it. that's why all the sanctions, all the u.n. security council resolutions aren't going to do a thing.
this is a threat to the united states, not to russia, not to china. therefore, as the president has said himself, we are going to have to solve the problem ourselves if we can. >> bret: you don't think south korea and japan have a vested interest in china preventing north korea from having a nuclear weapon? >> they do but they don't have the means. only we do. that's why they are clinging to the u.s. alliance and that's why the chinese and the russians want to break it up. it leaves them naked and exposed. the japanese have no alternative. the south koreans have no alternative because we provide the nuclear umbrella and their security. b but we are being exposed as being impotent in doing this because we don't have the means to do it. the talk about a military option, i think it sounds fairly empty. >> bret:t: michael?
>> i think it depends how you are talking about the means. ten years ago, we impounded $23 million from a chinese bank and for about two years, the north koreans were squirming under the pressure. what it requires is nott necessarily focus on the means or tactics but a complete strategic mindset shift. in the past, we have tried to bring the north koreans to the negotiating table. president clinton and president bush, with the goal of getting them to accept denuclearization. we need a policy of active regime intolerance. use appropriate military pressure to make it clear there is no path forward for the kim regime and to force them to come forward. clearly, the last 25 years of just thinking we can negotiate away nuclear weapons has been an abject failure. >> bret: so, the fact that you have kim jong-un who has launched more missiles than his father or grandfather combined and he's doing so increasingly with success. i mean, it seems like this has changed the dynamic, daniel.
what do you see as a possible military response, considering the challenges of also possibly a mobile launcher? >> there could be cyber responses. we have done some in the past, at least they have been rumored and there are other ways to doe it that perhaps more subversive than overt military attacks. as michael said, we've had 25 years of failed north korean policy. when it's failed in the past, the presidents gotten away with it because our military hasn't been advanced enough to inflict pain on the united states. now, it's different. there's a new leader with new capabilities. if we fail now, the possibility -- i don't want to sound too grim but there are serious life and death implications to american citizens.n it's incumbent on the president to use those means to force north korea to do something different, and it requires i think different thinking that we've had in the past. >> bret: the only time we
heard from the president today it was about military families on the fourth of july. we saw it on the south lawn. secretary tillerson taking point on the statement. the tweet earlier from the president, "north korea has just launched another missile. does this guy have anything better to do with his life?hi hard to believe that south kore and japan will put up with this much longer. perhaps china will put a heavy move on north korea and end this nonsense once and for all!" >> that sort of gets to the question charles mentioned. japan and south korea really can't do anything. i ask these questions. i don't know what the answer isy but i go back to something richard haas said a long time ago. "there is no self-correcting mechanism in international relations." in case of policy, strategic patience is over. has it been replaced with impatience? has it been replaced by tactical patients?
or is it just ad-hoc twitter taunts from the president?hi the point that china was not going to be able to do anything, i'm a little concerned with the fact that we have our inspections closed off to our nuclear safety and security measures. you wonder what we can do, that's proportional, cyber attacks or whatever. what will get a response because it's a u.s. problem. this is something the united states is going to have to respond to. i don't know if you can build a coalition, especially if china is in charge of the security council meetings. >> bret: exactly, china is in charge of the security council. there is supposedly a meeting in the works tomorrow to deal withh it. the prospects of getting something significant through with china and russia there as well. >> i don't think it would make a difference if we were in charge of the security council.e if we had the president, itif would make no difference whatsoever. for the russians, it's in balance, asymmetry of interest. our interests are radically different from the chinese and russians.
for 25 years, we have refused to accept that. the fact is, the others don't care. the missiles launched by pyongyang are never headed west. they are always headed east, always headed our way. everybody understands what the target is. either we are going to act on our own, which is what the president says he will do or, and we are approaching the point, we're going to have too accept a nuclear north korea the same way that under mao tse-tung who was a fairly radical anti-american communist and we accept the fact that china went nuclear as well. at a certain point, you you bow to reality and try to live in deterrence. it's not easy, it's uncomfortable, but i think were going to reach that point where either it's going to be a binary choice. go to war or you accept a nuclear north korea. >> bret: a nuclearth north korea that clearly is trying to test missiles that get to the u.s.
>> absolutely unacceptable. during the cold war, we didn't just come to terms with acc soviet union that had nuclear weapons. we engaged in a policy that said were going to figure out what is the most aggressive, appropriate response. with regards to the olympics, arms control, economic sanctions. >> bret: time odd. let's remind everybody, the 2018 olympics, the winter games, in south korea. all of those countries that are going to send athletes to south korea are going to do soso potentially under this umbrella of uncertainty. >> it's a fantastic point and we need to make it clear that a nuclear armed north korea with weapons capable of reaching the united states under the kim regime is absolutely intolerable to the united states and that's where president trump comments on friday were exactly spot on. it's time for a different mindset in approaching north korea. >> bret: we have more on this. we are awaiting video from the u.s. military on this testing they are doing in response. breaking news about north korea.
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>> bret: this is a fox news alert. just released images of a antimissile drill. it is in response to north korea's ballistic missile test. let's get the latest. national security correspondent jennifer griffin. >> we have just received this video from the u.s. eighth army. they have conducted a joint drill with the south koreans. ballistic missile drill, took place at a base outside south korea. if you look at the video, you can see these are short range surface to surface missiles pray they have a range of up to
200 miles. that is significant because remember seoul is 35 miles from the border with north korea. they are a far cry from -- if you compare them to the intercontinental ballistic missile with the 4,000-mile range the north korea tested. dressed in the last 24 hours. but this is clearly a show of force, to show that the u.s. and south korea are prepared. remember, north korea has about tens of thousands of artillery pointed toward soul, which has a population of about 10 million. that artillery is what some say is one of the reasons that the u.s., south korea, and others, are so concerned that it would be very difficult to militarily counter north korea. it's one of the reasons the north koreans have been able to get away with these missile tests for so long. this was the 11th missile test for this year. the first time an intercontinental ballistic
missile was tested. but this new missile that north korea has could potentially reach alaska. this video we are seeing now from the u.s. eighth army and the south koreans, again, is designed to send a signal to pyongyang that there are military options but again, none of those options are very good. bret. >> bret: jennifer griffin, breaking news at the pentagon. thank you. we'll be following this all night. back with the panel. effective, getting the video and statement out? >> who is the audience? what does kim jong-un see he doesn't know? what does china see it doesn't know? the more tangible the action, the better. it's a good show but whatever specific actions they take at this point to get a response from north korea, i don't know you can even think he is a rational player. what's it going to make north korea to respond? it's going to have to come from china. >> bret: this is not the optimism panel. not a lot of optimism about
changing the situation but somebody's got to do something, right? eventually, the dynamic has to change. either we are going to war and we are going to drop missiles or some other country is going to have an impact on north korea. >> i have long advocated the most extreme stepgrandmother one thing that china is afraid of is a nuclear japan. that is their nightmare. japan is their historic enemy for centuries. nukes in the hands of the japanese would really scare them. the chinese are the only ones who can shutdown the regime in north korea. you really want to pull out all the stops short of war, i think we should go to the japanese and say we should make an announcement that we are going to go nuclear as a way to deter pyongyang. that would get the chinese attention and perhaps it would offer a way out. >> wasn't that donald trump's suggestion? give the nukes to south korea and japan? >> he has suggested a lot of stuff in a lot of different ways.
if he is president, he ought to outline a policy. if that is the policy he chooses, i think it is the only way other than acquiescence or war. >> this video is nice and it's great optics but it could be shooting down their own icbm tests and we could be more aggressive in that regard. it doesn't risk the lives necessarily. i think a strap like that would be more defiant and show slightly more aggression then just after the fact, a video of us testing out our anti- -- >> to put the video in context, it's pretty routine after these types of things to do flyovers. the target of the video is korea and japan, to show our allies we are present and strong. we are not cowed. another important single will be at the g20 summit, would president trump does not give in to demands from putin, that we distance ourselves from the republic of korea.
the video is what it is and nobody thinks it's the answer. it served a purpose. >> bret: let's take a second to notice that president xi and president putin met today, talking about north korea. president trump meets with president putin on the sidelines at the g20 in hamburg. that will be a very important meeting, charles. >> i'm sure putin will toss this joint russian-chinese plan, the de-escalation plan. we stopped our exercises with seoul. they stopped their testing, their missile testing and nuclear testing. it's a complete nonstarter. i think it has to be rejected with contempt. i don't know if trump will do it. that will be test number one. that will be a way of seeing whether he can stand up to putin. that will be the sweetener. it's not worth the paper it's written on. >> to put it in context, angela merkel will be yelling about climate change.
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>> bret: americans celebrated independence day in different ways. we wait for fireworks displays across the country. vice president pence and mrs. pence marched in the parade. new york city let up in red, white, and flu, 3 million people expected to attend tonight's's show. in gettysburg, pennsylvania, hundreds gathered for the 154th annual gettysburg civil war battle reenactment. the fourth of july is aboutci freedom, independence, something north korea does not have. if you want to do something tonight with your family, take a moment and read the declaration of independence. that more than anything else will get you in the mood. it's great to be in this country. happy fourth of july. thanks for inviting us into your
home tonight. that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced, and still unafraid. "the story" starts in a moment. i'll be back with some breaking news at the bottom of the hour on north korea right here on fox news channel. >> martha: happy birthday, america. >> kimberly: it is 9:00 in new york city and this is the five. ♪ >> kimberly: thanks for joiningg us tonight. we have a fun show in-store. before we begin, we like to give a very special salute to our troops and that this independence day. we thank you for our freedom. tonight, we are doing something we have never done before. we are answering your questions for the entire hour. some