tv Americas Newsroom FOX News July 6, 2017 6:00am-8:00am PDT
president has been live in warsaw today. tomorrow, he will be live in germany. >> we'll be live right here to report it all to you. >> steve: of course preview what will be taking place. we'll get all the impact on "fox and friends." >> shannon: president trump sending a message to the world calling on all nations to confront an increasingly dangerous north korea, while looking to firm up alliances and getting the rock star treatment from the people of poland. good morning. i'm shannon bream. >> president trump wrapping up a speak in warsaw just about an hour ago, heading off to hamburg, germany. but before that, president trump offering some tough talk for north korea during a news conference. warning what he called severe consequences in pyongyang if they continue banned missile and nuclear tests. >> as far as north korea is concerned, i don't know. we'll see what happens.
i don't like to talk about what i have planned. but i have some pretty severe things that we're thinking about. that doesn't mean we're going to do them. i don't draw red lines. president obama drew a red line. we'll take a look at what happened over the coming weeks and months with respect to north korea. it's a shame that they're behaving this way, but they are behaving in a very, very dangerous manner. and something will have to be done about it. >> shannon: the president later spoke to the polish people praising them for their faith and determination in the face of threats throughout the decades. h >> leland: >> the story of poland is a story of people who have never been broken, who have never ever forgotten who they are. >> leland: we have team coverage including analysis from fox news
contributor steve hayes. but first let's go to white house correspondent john roberts, who is traveling with the president in warsaw. what advice does president trump have for russia? >> reporter: get to that in a second. let's give you the president's movements. air force one took off for hamburg, germany. he will meet with the chancellor tonight. friday and saturday he has got the g-20 summit. so the president will be meeting a lot of world leaders, including president xi. he will have that meeting with president putin. let's take you back to about an hour ago in poland where the president got a warm welcome. several thousand people packed the square where he gave the speech. people were chanting donald trump, donald trump. framing his speech as a defense of western civilization, pointing to poland's struggles over the centuries as to what it takes really to defend a
civilization. poland is also emerging as a major economic and military power in europe. the president throwing his full support behind that. poland also worried about the power to peace, russia and how russia is mixing it up in the eastern part of ukraine. and president putin and russia's support for al-assad in syria. the president sending a sharp warning to russia about its behavior. listen here. >> we urge russia to cease destablizing activities in ukraine and elsewhere, and its support for hostile regimes, including syria and iran. and instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and a defense of civilization itself. >> reporter: tomorrow is friday. the president will be meeting with vladamir putin, the very
first face to face meeting. the president sort of setting the agenda in a press conference earlier today. clearly syria's going to be on the table, as well as russia's destablizing behavior, as he eluded to. also be talking with putin about north korea. the president has said in the past he would like to have a constructive relationship, more constructive than in the past with russia. but clearly russia's behavior is getting in the way of that. could be a fly on the wall at that bilateral meeting tomorrow. would be an interesting place to be. >> leland: it certainly would be. we're waiting to hear what your sources say that are inside the room, john. first presidential trip overseas that you've reported on. lot of questions in terms of how this president approaches nato. did he clear any of that up today? >> reporter: the president, the last time that he was in europe, which was back at the end of may, going to that nato summit, getting a lot of criticism for in a ceremony dating an article
v memorial for not coming out and mentioning as other presidents have in the past. the united states firm commitment to article v. the president said, well, it was an article v ceremony. didn't feel the need to specifically mention it. he put to rest any criticism of that day today when he said this. listen here. >> to those who would criticize our tough stance, i would point out that the united states has demonstrated not merely with words, but with its actions that we stand firmly behind article v, mutual defense commitment. words are easy, but actions are what matter. >> reporter: tough stance that the president was talking about then was to call upon nato countries to live up to the commitment of 2% of their gdp toward the military capabilities within nato, praising poland earlier today for committing 2.5% of its gdp, which would put
it narrowly behind the united states in terms of its overall commitment. leland the president hitting countries like germany and france and italy and canada for that matter for not living up to their 2% commitment. but the president allaying fears today as to how he really views what's called old europe. that's countries in france, germany, spain, austria and others, saying poland, a strong poland is a blessing to europe, and a strong europe is a blessing to the world. so the president really standing behind this idea today, leland, of a strong europe and how beneficial it is towards stability. >> leland: poland being one of his first european stops as president. john roberts there on the ground in warsaw. john, safe travels to germ nip as we speak, president trump is on his way to the g-20 summit in germany. the organization made up of 19d countries, as well as the european union. it represents 3/4 of global trade. topping the agenda this year,
climate change, immigration and trade. president trump could clash with germany's chancellor on those topics. they've exchanged words about it before. we are also waiting for that high profile meeting tomorrow with vladamir putin, as well as the chinese president who he had that mar a-lago summit with. >> shannon: joining me is steve hayes, a fox news contributor. good morning, steve. first of all, i want to start, for those who weren't up early and didn't see the speech live, we want to give people a sense of the president's reception by the crowd in poland. >> yeah. very positive. [ applause ] that was many times during the speech. contrast that with what he's likely to get in germany. >> i think he'll be met with much more skepticism in germany and then again the following week in paris. as john roberts reported yesterday on this show, the law
and justice party of the trumpian equivalent in poland was given the members of parliament there were given 50 tickets each to come to this speech. so the crowd was sort of stacked. certainly with that group in poland and with the leadership in poland sort of aligned with president trump, you could expect a warm welcome. that's indeed what he got. >> shannon: a speech talking about civilization, what drives that, the links we have with poland. kind of calling on western civilization to ask themselves whether they are ready to stand up for those ideals and essentially fight to the death. he made it sound as if we're on the precipie of losing civil saying as we know it. called for poland and allies to stand together in that fight. >> the speech was written by steven miller trump's nationalist speech writer, been an adviser for president trump for quite awhile.
he received some assistant from ronald reagan's speech writer who wrote the evil empire speech. there's a lot roff history that president trump packed into this speech and sought to connect the united states and poland, but also a broad defense of the west, as you say. >> shannon: press conference before this he talked about north korea. he said that he's considering very severe consequences. they've done very very bad behavior. he talked about the fact that it is time to get something done on that front. now, we know that china and russia have met together and called essentially on this bilateral standdown. they say north korea stop with the testing and the nukes. and south korea stop with their military exercises. he will see those two leaders this week at the g-20. >> that will be extreme. i don't think president trump is likely to take them up on that offer. the real question going into the g-20 meetings is what does he say to the chinese leadership? what does he insist on from the
chinese leadership, in terms of actual deliverables. we've seen president trump is more willing to use leverage that the united states has on china than his three predecessors. it's a different policy, a different approach. it hasn't yet fielded results, but it could. i think president trump has recognized that 25 years of diplomacy around north korea has failed, where the united states has engaged in effect in preemptive capitulation, offering concessions that at times haven't even been demanded and outsourcing the policies of china without any strings attached. president trump is trying to attack strings. he's long overdue in the minds of many republicans in congress and some foreign policy hawks to do this, to actually push china to take these actions by demanding something in return. >> shannon: he definitely called out russia for their destablization in ukraine and other places. i'm sure that will be an interesting conversation as well. steve hayes, good to see you.
>> thanks, shannon. >> leland: president trump weighing in on russian election meddling and what he calls inaction from president obama. >> he did nothing about it. the reason is he thought hillary was going to win. and if he thought i was going to win, he would have done plenty about it. so that's the real question. >> leland: so, was the former president's response to russian hacking a political decision? former utah congressman jason chaevitz will join us on that. >> shannon: plus step up an pay their fair share to the alliance. how is that playing with our allies? and another pr headache for united airlines. what the airline allegedly forced a mom to hold her child in her lap for nearly four hours even though she said she spent 1,000 bucks for a ticket. ♪
>> barack obama, when he was president, found out about this, in terms of if it were russia. found out about it in august. now, the election was in november. that's a lot of time he did nothing about it. why did he do nothing about it? >> leland: that was president trump this morning in poland accusing his predecessor of dropping the ball on russian meddling in the 2016 election. former utah congressman jason chavitz with us. good to see you, sir. >> good morning. >> leland: good morning. so president trump just said why
did he do nothing about it, referring to his predecessor. do you have an answer to that question? >> i think it's a very legitimate question. i think the president is spot on. one thing that came out from the homeland secretary in questioning from trey tkpwoudy is once home land security did know about it and they did ask the dnc or the d triple c, the democratic organization, they wouldn't cooperate. that really begs the question of how hard did they press it? what did they do? what did they not do? it kind of looks like they said, hey, we want to talk to you, but when the democrats said, no, we don't want to talk to you. it's the democratic administration that begs the question. >> leland: it was the washington post who basically said their answer from the president's side was they sort of felt hillary clinton was going to win. they didn't want to rock the boat. they felt like if they confronted russia, there were going to be other issues. and if they were going to win
anyway, what's the difference? the president also pressed on the issue of whether or not it was russia, something most of the intelligence community agrees on. here's what he said. >> i agree. i think it was russia, but i think it was probably other people and/or countries. i see nothing wrong with that statement. nobody really knows. nobody really knows. i remember when i was sitting back listening about iraq. weapons of mass destruction. how everybody was 100% sure that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. guess what? that led to one big mess. they were wrong. >> leland: whenever this president seems to be confronted with sort of inconvenient conclusions from the intelligence community, he goes back to iraq and the wmd intelligence. is that fair? and is it fair to do it on foreign soil? >> well, i think the president
draws out a point, which is you got to meet this intelligence with some degree of skepticism. going back to president obama, remember, he was the one who publicly went out of his way to state, even if you wanted to mess with our elections, you couldn't do it. they were out there publicly saying you couldn't meddle in these elections. now, i do hope president trump takes the opportunity, when he meets with the russian president and makes this an issue and tells them and the world how unacceptable this absolutely is, and that president trump would actually do something if they see this type of meddling in the future. >> leland: that brings us to the important question here. this is the first meeting between these two men, and there's a lot of discussion over whether the united states is entering this summit with enough strategic clarity, in terms of what we want out of it, and then drawing the parallel to the summit. the russians walk in knowing exactly what they want and president kennedy, new president, has really no idea and kind of got it handed to
him. do you worry about that happening here? >> i think president trump, i give him a very high grade on his foreign policy to date. he's surrounded by some great people. i do think there's some major things on the calendar there. everything from syria and north korea. i think the election should be a tier one type of topic. they've got a lot to talk about. i don't expect the president to solve it all in one meeting with the russian president. we do need to move the ball forward. russians need to know how serious president trump is about holding the line and protecting the interest of the united states. >> leland: how do you think he communicates that? is that with words or is that with actions? >> what i find sometimes the big public pronouncements and president trump in front of a crowd, who is obviously very effective. he's very different when you meet with him one on one. i have only met with him a few times. but he has a different style one
on one. and i think it's very effective. he's very engaging, very knowledgeable. i think it's actually a strong suit of his. we'll see how i goes. >> leland: we'll see. we're seeing some of the results of his meeting with the chinese. jason chaffetz. if you want to respond, still jason in the house on twitter. thank you. >> thank you. >> shannon: president trump's highly anticipated meeting with russian president putin happening tomorrow. >> i think that's the most important part of this meeting is to have a good exchange between president trump and president putin over what they both see as the nature of this relationship between our two countries. >> shannon: just what is at stake for that meeting? ambassador john bolten joins us live next hour to break that down. >> leland: and within the hour, we are expecting president trump's arrival in hamburg, germany, for the g-20 summit. the threat from north korea likely to be front and center there. just how far is the trump administration willing to go?
that's why at comcast we're continuing to make4/7. our services more reliable than ever. like technology that can update itself. an advanced fiber-network infrustructure. new, more reliable equipment for your home. and a new culture built around customer service. it all adds up to our most reliable network ever. one that keeps you connected to what matters most. >> leland: new york city police department still searching for a motive in the deadly ambush shooting of one of their own. this as we learn more about officer familia. the mother of three was a 12 year veteran of the police force. she worked as a nurse before pursuing a career in law enforcement. friends and family saying she felt a calling to help her community. the suspect alexander bond is
accused of fatally shooting familia as she sat in a police vehicle in the bronx. officers later shooting and killing bond. they say he had a violent history and vented about his anger about police. >> shannon: lawmakers in oregon are backing a new bill requiring insurance companies to cover the cost of abortion. the measure heads next to the governor's desk where it is likely to be signed. we have coverage live. i'm guessing for a lot of people this is pretty controversial. >> reporter: it depends on which side of the state you're on. it is controversial on the east side which is heavily republican and extremely conservative on social issues like abortion. on the west side of the state which is among the least churched areas in the entire country, this bill has plenty of support. it requires companies to cover abortions at no cost to taxpayers. to patients, i should say. it passed along party lines.
all 17 democrats voted for it. all 13 republicans voted for it. there is an exemption for religious employers such as providence health and services. but the law makes sure no one has to pay for an abortion by requiring the state's health department to create a new program to pay for any abortions not covered due to those religious exemptions. democratic governor kate brown supports the bill and is expected to sign it. shannon? >> shannon: all right. so what is this going to cost taxpayers? >> reporter: the total bill cost $10 million. the abortion part of that is $500,000. that's by far the most controversial part of this bill. again, that's because of the state now requiring the state health department to cover abortions that are covered under this exemption. that same fund will also pay for illegal immigrants to receive abortions. citizenship will not be asked when women seek to end a pregnancy. the clinic will be fully reimbursed by taxpayers. it becomes law as soon as
governor brown signs it. when it happens oregon will join california as the only state to make abortion a free service. >> shannon: dan springer in seattle. >> leland: overseas trip and his feud with the american media. >> they have serious problems. they have been fake news for a long time. they've been covering me in a very dishonest way. >> leland: will the feud keep coming up? >> shannon: plus a new photo surfaced. who experts believe this is and how that picture could change a very big piece of history. there's nothing more important to me than my vacation.
so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. visit booking.com. booking.yeah! introducing the easiest way to get gillette blades noo text "blades" to gillette on demand text to reorder blades with gillette on demand... ...and get $3 off your first order
>> leland: -- >> today we have to say there are more dire threats to security and our way of life. there are threats. we will confront them. we will win. but they are threats. >> shannon: president trump in poland reaffirming america's commitment to nato and promising a strong stand against threats like north korea. now we's on his way to a g-20 and a critical meeting with russian president putin. a founder of the american majority and former speech writer to george w. bush. good to have you both with us today, gentlemen. >> pleased to be here. >> shannon: get your reaction to
the speech. >> i loved it. the thing that's trump has been able to demonstrate with his joint address to congress, nato, today, when he stays on script, he can be a very powerful messenger. i love some of the themes. one of the themes he called out russia on the ukrainian aggression. he said essentially we're standing with poland. i think it's really important that he went to poland. you have a nato poland up to pace on its dues. he's calling on russia on polish soil. i thought that was very important. he also made a call for people to understand the west has to make choices. again, regardless of radical islam, it is a clash of civilizations. will the west have the political courage to address these threats? when donald trump stays on message, he can be a very powerful messenger. i thought he knocked it out of the park. >> shannon: there are plenty of
skeptics who don't have as much adulation to the president. here's some of the head lines. trump heads to g-20 summit on a collision course. faces uncomfortable conversations with world leaders at summit. as u.s. retires from world leadership, china and germany step up. others about his ruined credibility. listen, there are a lot of people who are taking this battle over trump overseas. >> well, and, look. it is inevitable given the fights that quite clearly outlined that there are going to be critics, both domestically and abroad. but ned is right. we have to have a consistent presidency that articulates the threats we face, whether they be in europe, ukraine, north korea, syria. and donald trump has done that. but the key word i use, shannon is consistency. we can't get distracted. we can't get off on fake news, side news, whatever kind of news we want to talk about.
there's an old saying that divisions end at the water's edge. i'd like to believe that that can happen again, that we can all work together. >> shannon: he got a question. if you saw the presser before the speech, he got a question about this issue of the media and his constant jousting with them. >> what cnn did was unfortunate for them. as you know now they have some pretty serious problems. they have been fake news for a long time. i think they've hurt themselves very badly. very, very badly. and what we want to see in the united states is honest, beautiful free but honest press. we want to see fair press. i think it's a very important thing. we don't want fake news. by the way, not everybody is fake news. >> shannon: some of his critics would say, he's standing there with the president of poland. maybe that's not the topic you were addressing but, ned, he was specifically asked by a u.s. reporter on this trip. >> he needs to address it.
the thing that's interesting with trump's supposed battle with the media it centers on three outlet, cnn, washington post. all are auditioning to be the propaganda machine to the left. cnn last week had to have three staff resign. jake tapper had a fake national enquirer cover, new york times had to put out a correction to its story. said actually only four intelligence agencies instead of 17. he's pushing back on this because they have continued to show themselves not to be fair and honest brokers in response to repairing the news. he never calls out reuters or bloomberg or variety of other news sources because those people he feels are actually being fair and objective to him and his administration. when cnn, new york times and washington post are doing anything but that. >> shannon: doug, do you think this was a good fight for him to take on? we've seen polling on where do
people trust the media more? do they trust president trump more? for his base, this is a fight they like him to engage in. >> it is a fight his base like. there have been places where the media has been just plain wrong. but when you're overseas dealing with threats to the united states like that which north korea has presented with their launching of an icbm, just duck the question, turn things back to the challenges we face with russia and china basically pronouncing moral equivalents between north korea and the u.s. and south korea. i think we want to focus singularly on not where the so called fake news is, but where the adversaries are, what our values are and most importantly what policies we believe are most important in europe, ukraine, syria, asia and particularly north korea. >> shannon: ned, he did talk a lot about the bigger things
today ab western civilization standing up, clinging to values that under mind our societies. and he talked ab this with the polish people and pope john paul ii and how much he rallied that country around their faith, around their families, around the foundations of what eventually led them to escape communism. >> exactly. and the common values that we share not only with western europe, but eastern europe as well. that's the interesting thing trump did and is doing. all of europe, not just western europe, eastern europe, we have shared values. we have shared adversaries. it's time for us to unite in the face of those. i totally agree, i want him to focus on these big issues. but if you look back in june how much time he spent on twitter talking about the big issues, it was about 90% of his time on twitter was talking about his administration. only about 12% were spent on the fake news and media. again, the overwhelming majority of what trump is talking about are the big things, are the positive things, these threats
of north korea and russian aggression and radical islam. i like where he's at. i love when he goes oversea. he is an excellent representative for us. he is re-establishing america's role on the world stage. that's a good thing for the west to say, hey, we're back, and you will accommodate our interests. >> shannon: we're looking live at hamburg germany where the president is expected to touch down within about 15 to 20 minutes if they're on schedule. we'll take you there live when it happens. numbers of tweets on policy versus some of these side stats going on. the fact that people remember the ugly ones. they remember the fiery ones. >> exactly. >> shannon: does that under mind the 90% of policy and meat he's trying to get done? >> absolutely. i'd like to turn the 88% or 90% into 100% focused on policy, because i think we really have understood this morning that democrats of goodwill and
republicans can get together around shared values, shared policies. and the president certainly today and previously has been an eloquent advocate. let's get off fighting the newspapers, fake news, "the new york times" "washington post". cnn. we'll be a much better country. >> i totally agree, but they have to stop what they're doing. until they do, he's not going to stop defending himself. >> that's the problem, yes. >> shannon: there's the debate about taking the bait or not taking the bait. >> exactly. >> shannon: good to see you both. >> thank you so much. >> shannon: as we await his arrival in germany, lot of people said that he seems most presidential when he's overseas because he's all ab american strength, america first and whether people like that or not, i think people back home like to feel that projection of strength. >> leland: well, absolutely.
there is no more powerful sight in the world, whether you're an american ally or american enemy than what we are about to see on that screen, which is air force one pulling up and the president of the united states walks off the 747 and over to marine one. no matter where in the world he travels, that sends a message. >> shannon: that's quite an image. stand by for that. we will take you there live. >> leland: breaking news overnight involving congressman steve scalise. already dealing with a difficult recovery after being shot. he's been moved back to the icu. the latest on his condition and why that downgrade. >> shannon: and as north korea pwafr basks in its successful launch of an icbm, president trump vowing to take on that rogue regime. >> not only must we protect our nation from the threat of terrorism, but we must also confront the threat from north korea. that's what it is. it's a threat. and we will confront it very strongly.
>> shannon: a recently discovered photo sugg jests amelia earhart might have survived her final flight. check this out. this photo is pictured to show amelia earhart to her right and her navigator on the left days after their plane disappeared in the pacific. experts who have seen the photo say it is likely of the two lost aviators saying the figure on the right is physically similar to amelia earhart. it's long been believed they died in a plane crash. some analysts suggest they survived and was perhaps taken prisoner by the japanese. i love a good mystery. >> leland: this has been one of the great mysteries of the 20 and 21st century. >> shannon: i saw an interesting overlay of noonan and of this image. it looks like a virtual match. fascinating. gives us something new to get all nancy drew about. >> leland: nancy drew right
here. >> shannon: yep. >> leland: north korea presenting president trump with a huge test on the global stage. tensions are high with the rogue regime after their successful test of an icbm earlier this week. the president addressing that threat earlier this morning. >> we'll just take a look at what happens over the coming weeks and months with respect to north korea. it's a shame that they are behaving this way, but they are behaving in a very very dangerous manner and something will have to be done about it. >> leland: let's bring in our top military analyst retired general jack keen. good to see you, sir. >> good to see you, leland. >> leland: so the president said he doesn't draw red lines. his secretary of state and others seem to be drawing lines at either the north korean getting an icbm that can reach the united states or being able to weaponize an icbm.
does the president need to be drawing red lines as well? >> no, i don't think a red line achieves much of anything. it's too much of a public declaration. what they're working towards now, they recognize one that china is likely not gonna deliver what they said they would deliver. and i think they've always had a very healthy dose of skepticism about china's role here. but they're gonna begin to apply, for the first time ever, maximum pressure on north korea. we know for a fact sanctions in the past have not worked, leland, but we've never gone all out and got the support from every single country that north korea does business with, and then also, because we've already begun this, sanction those business entities in china that are so clear and important economic factor, particularly in north korea's military and economic growth. that is about where we are in
the beginning stages of what the trump team will call maximum prez sure policy on north korea. >> leland: conceivably maximum pressure policy requires those other countries to apply pressure as welsh specifically russia and china, screen left is the g-20tarmac there in germany. something these leaders are going to be talking about. whether or not russia goes along with the united states, whether or not china does, big questions, as you know. nikki haley at the u.n. yesterda yesterday. >> the united states is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies. one of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces. we will use them, if we must, but we prefer not to have to go in that direction. >> leland: does a staple like this encourage russia and china
to go along with us or does it make them extract a higher price from us when they know we want their cooperation, need their cooperation so badly? >> i think they expected that statement, given haley's previously strong statements on behalf of the united states. but where russia and china are, they are condemning north korea's escalation to an icbm capable of reaching the united states. however, my judgment is they will not support the increase in u.n. sanctions against north korea. they are likely going to veto it. and later on in her remarks, she said if you're going to veto our proposal, then you're standing with north korea. what else is happening here is north korea and china both have made a calculation that they don't believe the united states would conduct a preemptive attack. as much that's check mate on the united states militarily.
they believe they can acquire this icbm capability, capable of reaching the united states. that is their strategy. clearly they're about it. >> leland: well, check mate, as you say, brings up a lot of questions strategically. move on now to the second part of this trip in terms of talking about the president's commit phpbtd to nato. there were a lot of questions. he talked about article v in his speech. no doubt that speech was on polish soil, a country that's meeting the 2% threshold set by nato. listen to what the president said. >> we are grateful for the example poland has set for every member of the nato alliance by being one of the few nation that actually meets its financial obligations. as you know, i have been pretty hard on some of the members of nato. money has been pouring in in the last year. far greater than it ever would have been. it is past time for all
countries and all countries in the nato alliance to get going and to get up to their obligations. >> leland: your thoughts, general? >> well, first of all, i really applaud the speech. the post cold war era of super power domination is over. we're in an era yet defined, but it clearly is a great power competition among russia, china, the united states. russia and china want to change the international order that has so served the world so successfully for 70 years. this speech goes right after that. this is a return to international stability and peace and prosperity. sprefrb the international order. we're going to do it together. we're going to stand up to russia. >> leland: that will be a topic coming up today and tomorrow. general keane, ap praoerb your insighing. >> shannon: we're just minutes from president trump's scheduled arrival in hamburg for the g-20
>> shannon: taking you live to hamburg, germany, where we believe the president and first lady are now touching down with a very busy schedule ahead, they're coming off a visit to poland. the president wasn't there for long but had quite an impact and got quite a hero's welcome as he talked about the polish people, about how all they had done to pull their country together and when they fought back against the nazis, communists who would try to quench their spirit, he talked ab their identity there. how arndt it was for western nation to come together to fight against the evils of the world then and now.
coming up that speech where he was very well received, as well as the first lady. he heads into a different situation at the g-20. one of his first meetings will be with chancellor merkel. they have had differences, to say the least. it is very expected to be a, quote, uncomfortable meeting, we're told. they are both world leaders. for merkel, the region's interest, as she has talked about. her decisions regarding immigration in germany. they also have on the agenda climate change, something they know president trump is not on board with most european nation and those in the g-20. they'll have conversations there. leland you know the big meeting we're all watching for is the one he'll have with vladamir putin. their first face to face. he called them out, called russia out today during that speech in warsaw, talking about efforts to destablize ukraine. lot of folks are wondering
whether or not russia meddled in the u.s. election. >> leland: there's so much to discuss in all of these. the juxtaposition is important. he landed in poland, hero's welcome. very well received. very well received by the president there who is a populous leader. in poland. now he comes to the g-20 uncomfortable meetings with the germ german chancellor, with the russian president and the chinese president. each one has their own issues. talked about the issues with merkel. big issues with putin. whether it is talking about ukraine and crimia. and now just today essentially russia not backing the united states as it comes to confronting north korea. so there are a number of unilateral vetoes on the u.n. security council. russia and china have two of them. either one can prevent
sanctions, further sanctions against north korea. so now the president has to talk to vladamir putin and then remember he all meets with the chinese president. you'd think he'd have to say, we talked about this at mar a-lago, i thought you were gonna help me. not so much. >> shannon: based on the tweet yesterday or the day before that came out from the president that said basically, i thought china was with us on the north korea issue but looks like in the first quarter trade is up 42%. so maybe not so much. really, publicly kind of calling out china on some of these issues he thought they'd be more helpful with. we talk about the fact that for china, the north korea situation presents a number of issues. they don't want millions of refugees coming across their border. people are trying to make them see a war in that region would be worse for them than possibly toppling that regime and dealing with, of course, the outflow of refugees that you will have in that situation. they're going to have tough conversations. we know the president of russia
and of china, the two have been meeting together and giving us advice on how to deal with north korea. so in the face of that now, our president will sit down with each of them individually and have some chats. lot of this we won see because it's behind closed doors, but you have to think about the body language. i'd love to see more of that. there was a lot made of the president's handshakes with france's president and some others. >> leland: positioning there between the world leaders. just a note from the pool that is traveling with the president. there's really two planes that work as air force one when they travel overseas. one is the plane the president travels on. that is air force one. then there's an identical plane that goes along everywhere the president goes. united doesn't do that when your flight is delayed overseas, have an identical plane for you. it is important to note that this is air force one. just behind it you see the plane of the south korean leader
landing there in hamburg, germany. air force one is wheels down, so this is air force one that has landed now. we wait for the arrival ceremony that will come as the president and the first lady walk down the steps. 4 p.m. they are in germany. the president has already had a very long day and a longer day to come throughout this. and we saw on his first foreign trip, at one point they said he was just exhausted after his time in the middle east. seems as though they've built in a little more pad to the schedule on this trip as opposed to the last trip. >> shannon: yeah. looks like tonight part of his schedule will also include a dinner that will involve the prime minister of japan and the newly elected president of south korea. very important allies in the conversation about what to do with north korea. we've talked about the fact that the u.s. has planted a couple anti-defense missile systems in south korea. they have been welcomed.
yet this new president has kind of put a halt on further installations saying he wanted to have an environmental analysis of how those things would work. while others say, listen, if there's no south korea, the environment doesn't really matter. we can imagine they'll continue some of those conversations tonight as well. >> leland: the south koreans have seem to become a little more hawkish after the icbm test. that seems to have been a change. north korean, video coming out. a joint statement coming out from the south koreans and the americans. there's the juxtaposition. the president having that sort of friendly dinner with japan and south korea going, what do we do? then he's got the chinese president and the russian president perhaps some arm twisting. and then the question come, what concessions do the chinese and japanese -- chinese and russians want from the united states to help with north korea and how does that impact president
trump's domestic policy? does china say, well, you've been really tough on us about trade. back off on trade and we'll help you with north korea. what deal do you have to make? >> shannon: as we await the president and first lady actually deplaning here. brett, you saw the speech this morning. lot of folks say, listen, when he stays on that script, it was very presidential in nature. what was your take in the speech? >> there are two sides to this trip in poland. the speech which was very powerful. very well delivered, echoed the character and history of poland to make a statement about the will to fight terrorists using the past of poland fighting the nazis and the soviets. it was powerful. images in that speech. messages about russia stepping away, saying they need to get
away from the dictators of syria and iran. saying he would reaffirm and the u.s. stands behind article v. all hitting these marks in this speech. the three c's, all these countries surrounded by three c's of eastern europe that are so crucial really to the way the u.s. looks at that region in a geo political sense going forward. that's the one side which was, for the most part, all positive. then there's the other side. the news conference. and that is what is being focused on. the answer about, well, i think it was russia that interfered but could have been other countries, other people. not a definitive sense. you see the president and the first lady about ready to exit air force one. and then ripping on cnn and the media. obviously there's a back and forth there. he has a right to be upset ab certain stories. but when overseas, i think doug mentioned it earlier, it's an interesting take for a president to answer the way he's answered
in front of the polish leader. but this is a different president who answers questions like he answers them. there's two sides of president trump's trip to poland. >> shannon: absolutely. and he did take the opportunity when he was asked about was it russia? will you definitivety say that. and to bring up president obama. if he knew before the election, why didn't he do something more? president trump said i don't think he choked. i think he thought hillary clinton was going to win. they didn't want to martha. they didn't think i was going to win. reopening that conversation as well. >> there's a disconnect there. ripping on former president obama for not acting on the cia's warning about russia interfering and then not saying definitively that russia interfered. there's a disconnect there. ripping on a former president, the media and also, you know, talking about, as he talked
about in that press conference, what he's dealing with at home. i think there are people that look at this and say this is a different president. but the guy who delivered that speech with that message that was so powerful i think is the one that obviously polish people will look back to and say this was a big moment. >> shannon: they literally are rolling out the red carpet. we use that phrase at times, but we're actually watching them do that as we watch him deplane from air force one. you mentioned several things he hit on with regard to nato, with russia, with the threat of terrorism. it did boil down to that overall thing we kep hearing about. does the west have the will to survive to protect our borders to sprefrb civilization in the face of those who would subvert and try to destroy it? it was a very, very big theme, a big speech, calling basically on western civilization to fight for its own survival. >> yeah. talked about the threats from isis. in the press conference, he
talked about the threat from north korea. severe consequences to come. there are a lot of things on this president's plate. as we get ready for this g20, thaoe meetings could not be more consequential. the meeting with president putin, the meeting with chinese president xi. the way forward for north korea is obviously the most pressing issue he has. so taking time, again, in that press conference to talk about the american intelligence community, how it's dropped the ball before, to talk about all of these things i think you'll see a refocus in this g-20 about the real threats that the u.s. is facing. >> leland: as we watch the president walk off air force one, he's coming from that really warm and positive reception in poland into some pretty significant head winds dealing with the president of russia and the president of china. give us a sense of, what are your folks saying are the deliverables for this president?
what's their strategy walking in? what do they want out of russia and china? what are they willing to give up to get those things? >> i think that's a great question, leland. we don't know answer, as you see the first lady and the president exit air force one there in hamburg, germany. we don't know answer to that. i think there's been a disappointment inside the white house about the interaction of china when it comes to north korea. you've heard some of that by president trump speaking in speeches and his tweets. as far as russia goes, yes, north korea's going to be a big issue, but syria will be really the biggest issue. secretary of state rex tillerson has said the president is red do i talk about a negotiated solution to syria that perhaps gets assad out and sets up some government. i think that will be fascinating to see on syria. what does russia want? probably a pledge not to install
more sanctions. judging by the answer at that press conference, i don't think you're going to see this president really press president putin on the election interference but we'll see. >> leland: you said the white house may not easily be communicating what their stra taoepb taoepblgic provision is. is that coming from your time from the bush administration and obama administration? did they walk in with more strategic divisions or is it always this give and take? >> obviously this president is a deal maker. i think they know what they want going in. i don't think they talk about it as much as perhaps other administrations did, laying the ground work for what they expect. i think they realize that having dealt with chinese president before and having talked with on the phone at least russian president, knowing he is a former kgb agent. knowing he comes prepared to all of these meetings. they are going to wait and see
what they can get out of it. number one north korea. number two syria. coming off what was really a successful speech and delivery and tone and message in poland, we'll see how this g20 plays out. >> shannon: do you think secretary tillerson in any way is young weighing expectations going into this? saying, listen, the most important thing is for these guys to have a good interchange. the president's going to do what he wants to do. we know about essentially the dossier that is prepared for the president, psychological workup of president putin. as a former kgb agent, we know he is meticulous about studying his opponents, about showing up at the meetings with a very specific agenda. all of that has been prepared for this president. but as we've said repeatedly, he does things his own way, he trusts his gut. in many cases it works for him. do you think secretary tillerson is downplaying expectations on purpose?
>> well, you don't know what's happening behind the scenes. i know secretaries mattis and tillerson talk almost every day about what the strategic goals are, along with the national security adviser h.r. mcmaster as you see the president boarding marine one there. i do think that you're going to see a question here. are we going to see president trump who likes to be liked in thaoe meetings? or are we going to see the president trump who likes to be feared in these meetings? tkhr are two different messages there. i don't know how this interaction is going to go. one would guess that both sides are going to try to come out with some success, some tangible success that is tweetable, that they can talk about and they can leave the meeting, both of them, with success. i think there will be a lot of critics of this administration who look at the meeting with putin and say, if there was not a mention of the interference in the 2016 election, that that is
a signal of some capitulation of some kind. but the bar is low. he could talk a little about that and spend time on syria and north korea. >> shannon: essentially as you said, there has been criticism that if he doesn't bring up the meddling, adam schiff said essentially it sends a horrible message to russia that they can walk all over us and get away with it. do you think, not that the president will take advance from congressman adam schiff, but do you think he'll feel the pressure to at least get in a mention of that? we'll only know when we get the readouts. always interesting to get them from both sides and compare them and see how the two different sides viewed the meeting. >> i think after spending in this press conference a lot of time ripping on former president obama for not acting on the cia's warnings about russia and its activities, trying to meddle in the election, i think there will be some self-pressure perhaps after talking about it
that much, that there will have to be something. we don't know. his answer today confused some people. others looked at it and said he wants to move on from this whole russia investigation. bottom line is that russia, no matter where you go with the investigation, russia did try to interfere in the election. that is what all of his people say. director pompeo, who is his cia director, says that there is no doubt that russia interfered. did it affect votes? did it directly change votes? no, there's no evidence of that. but there is evidence that russia affected or tried to attack our sovereignty, our democracy, our way of voting for a president. so i think that that will be a major issue that people will be looking at in this meeting. >> leland: going back real
quickly to the issue of north korea and dealing with the chinese and russian about that, did the white house feel as though they learned anything out of the chinese visit to mar a-lago to your.where they had tweetable deliverables coming out of that meeting? even the chinese president saying president trump is said to be taken to his own word. now we have the president saying, well, i counted on the chinese and they didn't come through, how sad is that. have they changed their strategy a little bit, do you think? >> i do. i mean, i think there was a disappointment inside the white house about china and what has not transpired as far as the pressure on north korea. i think some of the messaging you are hearing from people like the u.n. ambassador, the u.s. ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley, that any country that is helping north korea is therefore hurting their chances for increased trade with the u.s. is
a direct warning to china and to other countries. so i think their strategy will change here. they're going to try to put the leverage more in a different position and not the friendly chit-chat over chocolate cake at mar a-lago. >> leland: is this the president who wants to be liked or wants to be feared in these meetings? marine one taxiing out looking back at air force one. >> shannon: it is. brett, you mentioned ambassador haley at the u.n. she did have tough talk yesterday, saying to essentially china and russia that they were, quote, holding the hands of kim jong-un. she seems to be one of the more vocal members of this administration. maybe getting to play a little bit of the bad cop while others get to play good cop. she's not mincing words there at the u.n. >> no. you sit there in front of the u.n. security council which, by the way, this month is chaired by china.
and you are directly dealing with their representatives and saying point blank, this is where the u.s. stands. i think though messages were echoed today by president trump who forecast severe consequences. what those look like, i think we don't know. as you talked about with general keane, they are unpleasant. i tell you this, in the pentagon, there are many military options that have been laid out on the table for this president. >> leland: they're certainly thinking about them. brett, thanks so much. lot of coverage coming up on special report tonight. >> you got it. >> shannon: we will see you at 6 p.m. in the mean time, president trump getting ready for a historic meeting with russian president vladamir putin? what is at stake? we'll discuss some of that. what can he hope though to achieve on fighting syria and fighting isis? we'll talk about that coming up.
>> shannon: president trump arriving just moments ago in hamburg, germany, for g20 summit. this ahead of his first ever meeting face to face with vladamir putin. joined by john bolton, senior ambassador to the u.n. ambassador, good morning. >> good morning. >> shannon: what do you make heading into this meeting? i want to play a little of what the president had to say at his speech in warsaw, publicly calling out russia. here's what he said.
>> we're working with poland in response to russia's actions and destablizing behavior. we're grateful for the example poland has set for every member of the nato alliance by being one of the few nations that actually meets its financial obligations. >> shannon: this is before his speech in warsaw. he went even further, accusing them of destablizing and trying to meddle all around the world. how do you think this meeting goes? >> well, i don't think the meeting ought to be one where they try to reach specific decisions on individual issues. this should be a get acquainted meeting. it is particularly important for a president with donald trump's style, very personal in many respects, to be able to take putin's measure. i think he'll do fine in the meeting. i know there was some concern the leaks out of the white house and "the new york times" saying the president's own staff is worried about this meeting. they want to structure it because they don't trust him to be able to handle it.
i think he'll do fine is my guess. what he really needs to do is get these leaks under control. >> shannon: how does he do that? >> i think he's got to fire some people. he ought to do the best job to find out who's doing the leaks and fire them. he may get the wrong person, but i think firing somebody at this.is very critical. >> shannon: i think we probably read the same article where they talked about they wanted to sort of micromanage him. >> you can't trust this guy alone with putin, we need the pros from dover to structure him. if i were the president, i would be looking down the list of people engaged in preparation for that meeting with putin and decide who was going to see the door. >> shannon: i want to make sure we hit on north korea. we know there will be more talk at the g20. the president sitting down not only with putin, but leaders of south korea, japan an everybody who has a stake in this. we's publicly cajoled them with tweets.
where does the conversation go this weekend? >> he's indicated he's looking at very tough options. trump had a band hand dealt to him after 25 years of failure. failure in the clinton administration. failure in the bush administration. failure in the obama administration. all based on the same policy, that north korea should be negotiated out of its nuclear weapons program through diplomacy and sanctions. failed. failed for 25 years. that's why his options are so limited. i think he needs to push china. it won't be easy. to acknowledge that everybody's better off with the reunited korea. that's the way to end north korea's nuclear program. we will not change north korea's behavior. we won change it by sanctioning north korea. we won't change it by trying to sanction china. >> shannon: well, so far that has been unsuccessful. ambassador, thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> leland: united airlines and the friendly skies facing another pr nightmare. this time over a mother allegedly forced to hold her 2-year-old in her lap for nearly
with internet speeds up to 250 megabits per second. get fast internet and add phone and tv now for only $34.90 more per month. call today. comcast business. built for business. >> leland: seems like united airlines can't catch a break. they are dealing with another in-flight controversy after giving away a seat that was srefrbed for a 2-year-old passenger and got worse from there. william la jeunesse with the story from los angeles. deja vu all over the time. >> reporter: two more failing grades for united. one for reselling the seat and second for how they treated the passenger. hawaii school teacher bought two tickets for an 18 hour flight from hawaii to boston months in advance paying almost a grand for each seat. one for herself, another for her
2-year-old son as required. now, on the final leg of the flight in houston the flight attendant asked if her child was on the plane. clearly you can see he was. in the seat next to her. and she had proof with the boarding pass. the flight attendant said the seat had been resold to a stand by passenger for 75 bucks. she complained but complied holding the 25 pound kid for a three hour flight. quote, i was very uncomfortable. my hand, my left arm was smashed up against the wall. i lost feeling in my legs and arm. i started remembering all those instants with united, the violence, teeth getting knocked out. i'm asian. i didn't want those things to happen to me. united spokesman said a gate agent inaccurately scanned her son's boarding pass so it resole his seat. they're working to prevent this from happening again, said united. sound familiar? well back in april, united issued new rules saying customers seated on the plane
would not be required to give up their seat involuntarily and two they had the power to resolve things on the spot. clearly somebody did not get the memo. five days later they apologize, refunded one ticket and gave her a travel voucher. >> leland: at least they have apologized a little bit quicker this time. william la jeunesse, thank you very much. >> shannon: president trump arriving in hamburg for the g20 summit. after getting a rock star welcome in poland earlier this morning. now the spotlight is on his upcoming meeting with vladamir putin. will he address allegations of russian election meddling? a fair and balanced debate next. i myself am a nurse, my daughter is going to physician's assistant school. we're passing on family traditions. ♪
members of the nato alliance, poland has resumed its place as a leading nation of a europe that is strong, tall and free. a strong poland is a blessing to the nations of europe, and they know that. a strong europe is a blessing to the west, and to the world. >> leland: president trump praising poland and vowing to confront new forms of aggression against the west, calling out russia. as brett pointed out, stopping short of condemning moscow for meddling in the u.s. election, instead putting the focus on president obama. >> barack obama, when he was president, found out about this in terms of if it were russia. found out about it in august. now, the election was in november. that's a lot of time he did nothing about it. why did he do nothing about it?
he was told it was russia by the cia. that's the real question is why did he do nothing from august all the way to november? >> leland: lisa booth fox news contributor, contributor to the washington examiner, also jessica tarlog, democratic strategist, senior director of research for bustle.com and a fox news contributor. ladies, nice to see you. good to have you. jessica, some july quarter backing after the election. do you agree with president trump? should president obama have done something? >> absolutely. i don't know any democrat who isn't sitting there wondering why did you choke on this information, to use the term the administration used when this happened. i would say that it's all well and good for donald trump to be talking about this. it's an important conversation to have. but he also went back on it and said we don't really know it was russia and claimed the media had to back track on the information that 17 intelligence agencies confirmed that it was russia
meddling. he can't have it both ways. there's legitimate criticism to be paid of president obama about this, but you need to be consistent and he just isn't. >> leland: is it worth it for the president to continue the inconsistency as jessica talked about? maybe it was russia, maybe it wasn't rather than coming out calling it the way so many people say it is. >> yeah. he could just call russia out on it. look, i do think it's a fair question to ask why president obama didn't do anything when he had the conversation. there have been reports in other outlets that the obama administration said it was because president obama thought hillary clinton would win the election. it wasn't until after president trump won that president obama called for the intelligence agencies to do the review and then also put sanctions on russia. i also think if you're president trump, looking back at the last administration saying, wait a minute, do you remember that president obama is incredibly weak on russia? what did he do? pulled out of a missile defense
agreement with poland and the czech republic on the 70th anniversary of soviet invasion into poland? laughed at romney when he said russia was our number one geo political foe. do nothing when russia invaded ukraine, telling the then russian president that he would have more flexibility after the election. so i think president trump is sort of revisiting that and letting all these people who have been attacking him on the issue of russia remembering what president obama did not do. >> why do we need to constantly revisit. republicans get on democrats any time we mention the name george bush. when we say the recession we inherited. we've talked about it before. healthcare was worse before obamacare. president trump won this election. own it. you are the most powerful man in the entire world. you're standing up there on a podium in poland, after having given a great speech where you finally retpaeurpled our commitment -- [ talking at the same time ]
>> fake news. >> leland: let's hear from jason chafeetz. get your thoughts. >> i think the president is spot on. one thereining that came out from the homeland security secretary jason son, once homeland skur did know about it and did ask the dnc or d triple c, the democratic organization, they wouldn't cooperate. that really begs the question of how hard did they press it? what did they do? what did they not do? it's the democratic administration that begs a lot of questions. >> leland: lisa, this brings up a question to what you were saying about president trump reminding everybody about how weak president obama was on russia. republicans agree about that. but if you continue to remind everybody how weak president obama was as president trump, doesn't that force his hand for people to start saying, okay
president trump, what are you going to do? how are you going to be strong against russia? something we have not seen in any way. >> that's not true. he thumbed his nose at russia today in poland also announcing the selling of the patriot defense system to poland. also attacked syria, something president obama never did. he actually deferred to russia in sort of negotiations and allowing russia to increase its presence in syria. we're looking to increase our military spending, increase domestic energy production which hurts russia as well. also reaffirming our commitment to nato today as well. again thumbing his nose at putin the day before the meeting. also even just his act in syria as well. russia said they would retaliate. where's the retaliation? i don't agree with you on that. he has stood up to putin in ways that we didn't see president obama. putin also looked incredibly
weak. >> leland: i have got to get to jessica. >> just two things there. i think a lot of what you just said is true. >> okay. great. >> he went to that press conference and then said we don't know who meddled. that is not thumbing your nose at russia. he all did not call them out for what they've been doing in ukraine. >> leland: in his speech, he did say a little about ukraine. >> he talked about destablizing the region. he did not say we will not stand for this. >> leland: that is a distinction we make. lisa, jessica, appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> leland: all right. >> shannon: a fox news alert and update on the congressman steve scalise. he has been sent back to intensive care. hi, garrett. >> reporter: doctors told us that gun shot to the hip caused
extensive damage to his blood vessels and internal organs but also that it left hundreds of bullet fragments inside his body. he has already under gone a number of surgeries. he had been improving but in a statement last night the hospital said congressman steve scalise has been readmitted to the intensive care unit due to new concerns for infection. his condition is listed as serious. sources close to the congressman tell us that this isn't all that much of a surprise though given the extent of his injuries, doctors had always expected an infection would develop. he said from the start his recovery would have ups and downs. at a press conference three weeks ago the doctors did say they fully expect scalise will be able to walk and hopefully run again, but we are expected to get a more complete update later today. shannon. >> shannon: garrett, thank you very much. >> leland: now to a little domestic policy. they're still doing stuff on capitol hill. republicans are facing pressure
to reach a deal on healthcare reform. and now there is a new idea from texas senator ted cruz. it is gaining some traction with conservatives. the senate back in session coming up monday. so could this be the answer they're looking for? >> shannon: third time is the charm for space x. a couple stops and starts. details on the mission and the attention it's getting from the trump administration. whoooo. looking for a hotel that fits... ...your budget? tripadvisor now searches over 200 sites to find you the hotel you want at the lowest price. grazie, gino! find a price that fits. tripadvisor.
>> leland: some bizarre behavior at a tennis player at wimbeldon. the russian player took out his wallet and started tossing coins at the umpire chair. you can hear the chuckles from the crowd. the official apparently made some controversial calls during the match, but he said he was simply upset at losing his match and wasn't sending a message.
he apologized and maybe he should pick up those coins. evidently he faces a hefty fine. >> shannon: well, a proposal from texas senator ted cruz could breathe new life into republican efforts to reform healthcare. here's the idea. allow health insurers to sell plans up to the obamacare regulations to also sell cheaper less comprehensive plans at the same time. it's an idea that's getting traction among conservatives. joining me to talk about it, deputy editor for "the wall street journal." good to see you today. so we know this has a lot of interest from conservatives who say there was a similar deal in the house. state waivers so you can allow people to have more competitive plans. you know critics talk about health concerns are going to talk about a lot more or they will not be able to have health care. >> i know that is the criticism that you have a big adverse election problem here. all the people who are healthy like kids in their 20s will take
ted cruz plan. everybody else will sweep in with the obamacare plan. you sit here for half an hour talking about the substance of this bill, but i think at the moment, it's all about the politics and trying to get to 50 votes in the senate. how do you hold conservatives together and not lose susan collins, pull it down below 50 votes? at the moment, this looks like the piece of legislation that ted cruz proposal that is going to get it done. similar to what congressman macarthur proposed in the house, the opt out waivers for people in the state. i think mike lee has put his finger on -- senator mike lee. they just don't want to leave obamacare in place. they want to have some mechanism for people to opt out of it and to create alternatives. that is the long-term goal here. if they can build toward that with the cruz option, maybe it's worth looking at. >> shannon: sounds like mitch mcconnell sent this thing over
to the cbo for some scoring. it's critical because of so many things about doing reconciliation. you've got the parlment who will rule on things too. it sounds like he's taking the concept seriously, to take that step. >> mitch mcconnell is trying to get to the goal line and this is going to help, he'll send it over to cbo. i have always felt the republicans get too intimidated by these cbo scores. that they should understand what they're trying to do is not fix obamacare in one piece of legislation. that is never going to happen. it's going to take years. this was an extraordinarily complex piece of legislation. it permeated the american health care system and the individual market. it's going to take a lot of work, mainly done by governors in the states, to structure a program that works. they should not allow the cbo to say what you're doing is off the table. i think they should have more courage. >> shannon: we've seen over an over again how those cbo scores
did not pan out with reality. they were wildly off with some of the obamacare predictions. that's just a fact. you've written an interesting piece which you talk ab medicade. that is at the heart about whether they can get something done. people want to feel like in some cases it's free money. once you have more and more people on a program that was meant to help the poor and disabled, it's hard to scale those things back once people depend on them. >> yeah. i wrote that i think slewedest thing the designers of obamacare did was to insert into the bill an expansion of medicade to the states for the new people coming into the program and that federal government would pay them for the first several years 100% of the cost. medicade has been a problem for years with the states. they made a bargain with the government when it began which is they basically split the cost 50/50. except as medicare populations
rise, the federal government continues to pay a half or more of the share. as a result, medicade costs are crushing the states. they're the second biggest outlay next to k-12 education. one of the things they do to try to control it is to cut back money to providers, say doctors trying to serve the medicade population. when the obamacare provision offered them 100% payment, 13 republican governors took it. and they've been getting a lot of money. ohio has gotten $3.4 billion. arkansas's gotten $1.4 billion. now those republican governors are really loathe to do anything to cut back on medicade outlays which is what the bill wants to do. >> shannon: this is the party who said we have to have difficult conversations about government spending and entitlement. they're the ones preaching that sermon. >> well, you know, it's like the iron law of politics. offer them money and they will come. these governors were in such desperate straits with medicade, they took that money and now they don't want to give it back.
they've got their moderate senators saying your bill does too much to hurt medicade, to pull down medicade spending. so the obama people knew what they were doing when they put that in. they knew once you got committed to entitlements, it's very hard to roll it back. it's going to take some courage by the republicans to explain to people medicade is not just like private medicine. it's lowest common denominator medicine. it's not the best medicine out there. they're trying to reform. it as scott walker is trying to do in wisconsin. >> shannon: also hard to find a provider that will take it. >> very. >> shannon: thank you. lehrapb? >> leland: welsh third time's a charm for space x. the private space firm gets a satellite off the ground following technical glitches. but nasa says that it's hoping some positive news later today from vice president mike pence might put a shot in the arm of the space program. we are live from the kennedy space center coming up next. chances are, the last time you got a home loan,
you got robbed. i know-- i got a loan 20 years ago, and i got robbed. that's why i started lendingtree-- the only place you can compare up to 5 real offers side by side, for free. it's like shopping for hotels online, but our average customer can save twenty thousand dollars. at lendingtree, you know you're getting the best deal. so take the power back and come to lendingtree.com, because at lendingtree when banks compete, you win.
>> president trump hitting the ground with a news conference and speech in poland. we have the late ef on north korea's launch roff that icbm. russian interference in the 2016 election. and the president's on going feud with the media. this is all as we await the first face to face meeting of president trump and russian president vladamir putin all ahead. >> shannon: a deadly truck accident on a pennsylvania highway. the whole thing caught on camera. >> wow. >> shannon: motherists behind the big rig were shooting video when the driver lost control an flipped.
they say the truck had been swerving for several minutes before this wreck. it all happened monday on i 476 just west of philly. good samaritans swarmed the cab pulled the driver out. troopers say he'll be okay. they're investigating if he was too exhausted to drive. the interstate was shut down for several hours. >> leland: right now vice president mike pence is on his way to visit the kennedy space center just hours after the private company space x launched another satellite into space. nasa hoping for a boost from the trump administration. phil keating live from the kennedy space center in florida. welsh big building behind you. that's not the on symbolism there. right? >> reporter: right. that's vehicles operation building where inside, around 1 p.m. today, vice president pence will speak to about 1,000 nasa private, as well as civil servants that work here on the campus. the symbolism starts with air force two as it flies in it's
going to land on the same historic landing strip that was used by the space shuttle fleet. today is really all about igniting and inspiring our future engineers, rocket scientists and astronauts. better coordinating all space operations between the military, civil and commercial. speaking of commercial, that space x launch last night that was quite nice to watch right before a sunset, it deployed that 15,000 pound intel satellite about 32 minutes into the flight. no rocket landing this time. that's because it went to orbit an there was not enough fuel to get down on to the drone ship. the president's relaunching of the national space council was brought to executive order surrounded by astronauts including apollo 11 legend buzz aldrin. also aims to recharge american driven space exploration and innovation just as the national space council did back in the 1960s, eventually putting human footprints on the moon. >> we're gonna lead again. it's been a long time, over 25 years.
and we're opening up and we are going to be leading again like we've never led before. we are a nation of pioneers and the next great american frontier is space. >> reporter: nasa's big operation currently here at kennedy space center is building the space launch system rocket which is going to be absolutely enormous, as well as the orion capsule, both of which the vice president will get to see first hand when he tours campus later. >> leland: so that's what nasa is doing. you mentioned the retirement of the space shuttle. since then it's space x and these private companies that are really taking the lead now. >> reporter: yeah. they're really blossoming and having great success. boeing is building its starliner capsule just on the other side of this building. that's going to be launching here they think as soon as next year from launch pad 39b i believe. space x, of course, has been dazzling everybody with those up right rocket landings and they have this year finally proven
that reusing rockets and even capsules can be done safely. virginia based orbital like space x carries nasa cargo to the space station. and amazon's founder is bringing his space company to the space coast in a few years to launch space tourists out of our atmosphere. we're expecting vice president pence to land about an hour from now. he'll then go to the bab to talk about 15, 20 minutes then will go on this tour and then he'll be back in d.c. by dinnertime. leland? >> leland: phil keating, great to see you. thank you very much. shannon? >> shannon: president trump arriving in germany for the g20 summit. huge foreign policy tasks ahead of him, and that face to face meeting with president putin. just how much is at stake? hotel, i want someone that makes it easy. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i'm getting the best price every time. visit booking.com.
aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. medicare doesn't cover everything. and like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, these help cover some of what medicare doesn't pay. so don't wait. call now to request your free decision guide. it could help you find the aarp medicare supplement plan that works for you. these types of plans have no networks, so you get to choose any doctor who accepts medicare patients. rates are competitive, and they're the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. remember - these plans let you apply all year round. so call today. because now's the perfect time to learn more. go long. >> shannon: amazon is expanding its business, not just selling, but making wine.
it's called next. it launched its online wine market in 2012, but it's credit its own label. you are a wine connoisseur a little bit, would you try? >> leland: only if it comes by drone. that would be pretty cool. >> shannon: until it happens, speech when he won >> jon: fox news alert. president trump just landed in germany ahead of the g20 summit. thus, while there is no fallout from comments he made in poland during a wide-ranging news conference. welcome to sp 21, i'm jon scott. >> molly: i molly line. the president going on the attack. all head of his first public speech in europe. folks in poland, giving her president and the first lady rock star treatment. take a look. "crowd chanting "usa