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now. live tonight, the next revolution will be televised. america isolated as an elite but what is present trump popular message of the d21 he was elected to deliver? growth the thumbs out, all of them. tonight you will meet a man with a plan for brand-new congress in 2018. he's one of the press candidates pushing to bring a new populace platform to washington. later, you'll never look at your medicine cabinet the same way after tonight. the pharmaceutical industry gets richer while america gets sicker. evening, everyone. welcome to the next revolution. i'm steve and this is the home of the positive populism. america isolated and that was the elite verdict from present trump first g20 summit. listen. >> it's very clear that trump is isolated from the rest of the world.
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>> we see the us and the former president trump so isolated from our traditional allies. >> is the us more isolated after? >> they are more isolated. president trump found himself a bit isolated. >> the us was isolated and friendless and he managed to isolate his nation's to alienate his allies. >> it leaves him somewhat isolated. steve: isolated on trade, immigration, climate change. how dare he go along to globalization's organizing committee and tell them to their face that he disagrees with them. that is simply not done. for 30 years no one has challenged the leaders consensus. open borders, cutting carbon emissions at any price, trade rules decided internationally, not by sovereign countries. that is the way the world works. in the present trump get the memo? no, he showed up with a
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different memo written by the american people. they are asking where has all this globalism got a? what have we achieved these great geniuses of the global elite? what are the actual results of the elitist consensus of the merkel's and macron's, the diverse crowd that we so popularly defensive and imputed criticisms of an american president that quite they hold in contempt? this is what they have achieved with their agenda. the rich and the rich donors have got richer while working people have gotten for their carbon emissions are rising while americans are falling. their societies are becoming more chaotic by the day as they found her in the face of uncontrolled immigration. donald trump was elected to agree with all of this. he was elected to change it. european leaders can preach all they like about american isolation but was isolated really smart in europe, the people as opposed to many of their leaders want controls on immigration. they want trade to be fair. they don't think i'm change should, hold of other
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priorities. at the g20 summit, the global elite prefer to sneer at present trump's populist proposal. in fact, and unelected bureaucrats the so-called president of the eu commission warned of retaliation. we will respond with countermeasures, if need be, he said. within a few days, days? the eu bureaucracy has never moved that fast on anything in his life. according to reports the trade retaliation could include restrictions on american whiskey imports which could actually end up hurting himself. he might as well just be known as john claude drucker for showing up at events were worse for drink or three. as the price of populism is to be isolated from people like that, it's well worth the pain. let's be honest. real isolation on display at the g20 was not donald trump and america from the world but it was the isolation of the global elite from the people.
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now, to the scaffold as i'm joined by fox news contributor in washington examiner columnist, syndicated columnist and host of the podcast ribbon and gop strategist, liz. let's go to you first. it seems like the whole reaction to the d20 disaster for trump and isolated and think he saw was yet another manifestation of the fact that the elite still haven't come to terms with the fact that someone was elected as november with a really different agenda. >> they'll be people that will never come to terms with the trump presidency but a lot of americans cheered on the fact that he wore an american flag as a piece appeared to the g2010 when he pulled out of the paris climate agreement that he said he was elected to represent paris, he was elected to represent. he's committed to nato in article five, his browbeating of other nato members has led to
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what looks like a 4.3% increase from our nato allies in the fence penny which is a positive thing. you look at the litmus test that he put on things like the cuba deal and rolling them back because he felt that we did not get enough concessions under the obama administration. same thing with the paris agreement. about the united states was disadvantaged in the agreement and said he was open to renegotiation but i think that's the lens which he is looking at the way that we interact with other countries. doesn't benefit the united states are not? steve: you never been a trump and what he saw what happened and the response to it in particular this focus on america according to the critic thing isolated did you find yourself agree with the critics or did you find yourself thinking that's just not fair? >> he is coming with a different agenda and i think also america is isolated but i actually think there's been a focus on his withdrawal from the paris accord
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and that being why americans isolate. to the extent that america's isolated over having a discussion about americans back to its traditional global leadership and it's not too much to do with paris but with the nato stuff. i grant you, as you say, there will be increased contributions but at the same time, we have issues with him going to nato summit to not say things that traditionally reinforce the notion that we are going to be supportive of each other. that's a real problem. that's something i don't support. someone who is a libertarian but admittedly one who is strong on national defense and a little more, i don't think that's been the best policy. yes, obviously, the media is liking to talk about this in terms of paris and it's a very hot topic. i think on certain channels that have been more liberal -- steve: well thought trade. what about the economic aspects?
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>> i take a different view. i strongly disagree with president trump on trade. he is a restriction as i'm very pro- free trade. it's difficult to come from a scottish family that decided to settle in america in seattle and have a problem with free trade. i do think one thing that is worth noting we were talking about free trade is, the deals have been that great. i'm not saying that from the effect of a brain them in and restrict them the way that trump does but if you look at things like tcp, you have a situation where vietnam had an incredibly long time before it had to tear down its tariff to american goods. that's not free trade, is it? if you're talking about european union has come down to saying there will be penalties of punishment for the eu has huge numbers of restrictions on its trade with the us. and it's a protectionist view. i'm not supportive of president trump but there's an element of hypocrisy here. there are people attending that they are rabid free traders when their pay protective i love that point. they're complaining about trump going to america first and the eu continent is saying europe first.
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the economic point seems that that message to the president to the g20 if by some strange circumstance bernie sanders could've been there as the present it would've been similar. what you make of actress mark. >> brought the campaign sanders voters were in sync and they said the truck voters would say trump is not your guy, support sanders and vice versa. shot a lot of people because what they were spotting to the idea of changing election, bernie sanders and donald trump have that in common. one wasn't diverse and one wasn't hillary clinton. that wasn't it. to your point, i have been a journalist for 20 years and have been writing for 25 years and i feel strongly about this profession. i dedicated my life to it. it's sad what donald trump done to my profession. turned journalist inside out and we found out the rulebook we nil we don't tell stories and were out to get drunk. anybody paid any attention to what happened to the d20 or during trip to europe you can
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look at a speech in warsaw and his speech in warsaw where he talked about how the west will break the fact that short walk to a indispensable nation. steve: i love something that peggy wrote that speaks to -- if he'd make both kinds of speeches more here in america people would love him more and if you could make them when he travels he could travel more. steve: i thank you follow tom's critics being supportive of that speech in warsaw saying this is exactly what we need to see from the president but we see navigation places like syria and afghanistan so the charge of him being in isolation is unfair. the charges that we thought against him in the campaign or during the general election have it come to fruition. on issues like trade, let's see what he wants to do on nafta and he wants to renegotiate so, we'll see what happens.
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steve: we certainly will. lots more to get to later on. thanks very much. later on, weak spot but takes on the pharmaceutical companies lining their pockets while america gets thicker. that the head. plus, a revolutionary idea replacing current lawmakers with a brand-new congress. next, i speak live with one of and you'll hear from one of their candidates, you won't want to. the next revolution is back in a moment
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steve: talk about a revolutionary idea. in a few moments i'll introduce you to sac one of the driving forces behind a brand-new congress. they want to replace every member of congress with a fresh face. not to hold them to corporations and lobbyists. let's meet one of those places, pastor from arkansas. >> i'm the kind of person that believes in big ideas that are daring enough to just work. this is one of those kind of big ideas. steve: the big idea is running for congress in arkansas. the father of four says it all started with a podcast back i heard about brand-new congress when my wife heard about the
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podcast and she held out her phone to me and said you have got to hear about this and you have to do this. >> i think i expected him to listen to it and come up with reasons why he couldn't or he shouldn't. i was really excited when he didn't do that. >> one day i was sitting on my back porch talking with a friend and my phone rang and it was someone who said i'm from brand-new congress and even nominated to run for congress, would you be interested. steve: he was interested even though it meant running against steve womack. >> is a bright red districts. it's very likely that come november 2018 a republican is going to be the representative from this district. the primary in may of next year is really important. steve: even though they're both running as republicans, he says his campaign will be different from congressman womack.
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one of the biggest differences is he promise not to accept corporate tech under tax money. >> one of the current problems is so many of our leaders, condors would womack, being one of them are bought and paid for by their corporate donors. steve: one corporation linked is walmart. the company's home office is located in arkansas as their district. according to the center for responsive politics, congressman womack received over $160,000 from walmart's and its employees. the congressman wouldn't comment so a walmart spokesman said womack often supports elected officials who export initiatives and projects that are important to our customers associates and our business. as for, will a first-time candidate with no experience to the job contract. >> certainly. people who understand how the system works can get stuff done. the problem is the system has been working for the people in power rather than everyday americans. the experience i will bring to
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this job is someone who listens and cares and understands and will help work for solutions that will actually make a difference in people's lives. that's the kind of experience that i think we need in our elected officials. steve: full disclosure, one of the tech platforms that he's using is a candidate is my starter. with me now, bernie sanders advisor and one of the founding members of brand-new congress, zach exley. zach, you were involved in deeply and bernie sanders campaign. what was it about that experience in the last couple of years that persuaded you to start this incredibly ambitious movement to try to literally replace all the members of congress? >> yeah, it came from seeing what was possible on the brady campaign. millions of volunteers getting
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organized on their own, all over the country and yet, doing it in a well-organized way using technology, using all kinds of new things that didn't exist a few years ago. also, i've been around presidential campaigns around obama's campaign, carries campaign and howard dean's campaign, way back one of the first big grassroots internet power campaigns. this is something there's a new kind of politics. there's something new in our political system and people are only beginning to understand what it is. what it is is the ability to put an idea out there for the american people and say if you would like me to do this, it's easy the presidential campaign because you're saying make the president then donate to my campaign, sign up to volunteer and will get you involved and build an organization.
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that is possible now. nobody has yet tried that with congress. going around the brady campaign what all the volunteers -- there were a lot of independence and a lot of republicans participating in the brady campaign and they said i, when we elect bernie what about congress. he won't get anything done. look at trump. he can't get anything done with his own party controlling congress. they said can't use what were doing here to throw the bums out and we said yes. steve: you're trying to get bernie sanders supporters into congress. >> no, actually not. the crazy -- i say crazy and people say that the yellow me when i say it's a crazy idea but the part of this idea that makes people heads explode is that were talking about running democrats and democratic districts and republicans and republican districts. here's the problem right
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perspective it's not about a problem -- it's not republican first democrats, it's not that republicans don't have any ideas the democrats don't have any ideas but the problem is the entire establishment and this is what you show is all about they had no idea what is going on in america. they're totally out of touch. the situation we are in is that we are in a burning house. the house is pretty down all around us and the democrats solution is to turn on the air conditioning, the public and solution is to turn off the heat. they have no idea what is going on. as long as they're sticking to those solutions, they will respect they got trump and they almost got bernie but they got trump. steve: is the idea here -- would be accurate to say this is about electing populists? >> is absolutely about electing populists. i love your phrase popular populist because what were thinking about his were not this
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political spectrum of air-conditioning to heat. where the fire department and we want to put out the fire. our candidates are honest, hard-working people were built stuff. they're not people like me, loudmouthed activists. i won't run and i don't deserve to represent the district. what have i built our candidates are people that built stuff, educated hundreds of children that have cured thousands of patients, workers where the people take care of their workplaces and coworkers. those people we are putting in congress. there the fire department and we had to rebuild the houses. steve: one of the points i've made on my show is that as you said, the problems the president trump is that he didn't have a populist movement in congress. are you saying that trumps supporters watching the show tonight who want to help president trump should actually join forces with you, a former bernie sanders organizer, and run for congress as part of brand-new congress. >> i will be honest. the reason you voted for trump is to deport the people then
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you're not good like brand-new congress but if you want to rebuild america's means of making a living and that's why he voted for trump because that's what trump talked about -- the media didn't cover it but that was his stump speech every time he spoke to stadia. we want to repeat the american economy and you think the way the democrats talk about that about doing that which is just to sprinkle money into people's pockets or if you think the republican solution is to bed which is just the same thing but opposite which is let's cut taxes, neither of those solutions are going to fix our economy. we need to build the economy. viewers should join -- first go to. steve: lot more time to talk but. >> you have to go to rob for the 18, rob with two b's 2018 .com. e-mail rob at join at rob 2018 .com. steve: leave it there for the
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moment but next, the pelill join zach and me will sewhat they think about thi volutionary idea. then, e healthcare lock turned into a financial win for republicans and intern for america. an interesting take on delivering the present populist agenda. later, we dive into the swampy world of the pharmaceutical industry. you will believe who's really making decisions about your health care and just how which they have become. don't go away not ting that. mom, i'm taking the subaru. don't be late. even when we're not there to keep them safe, our subaru outback will be. (vo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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the . steve:.the procedures will be different. part of the plan we haven't talked about yet is the hundreds of candidates ready together have a plan and they will even have their legislation all written out before election day. all the compromises and agreements all the differences
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of opinion in the group will be worked out in advance. we are putting on the ballot is a chance to have america vote for a new congress and the way that they now vote for president there will be restraining and highly. i talk about this alternate reality with last year i think 90% of the incumbents were reelected but. stevewere alreadyliving in an ay where donald trump was elected. [inaudible conversations] steve: you written about our politics and the divisiveness and the idea that this is bringing people together from different parties around this populist agenda. >> i don't get practical. i work for a washington writers group and i don't live in
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washington. it seems so incredibly broken that the political establishment of both parties, god help us with a link arms as they sometimes do and work together against the interest of people but i don't see them letting you get to first base with this idea. how do you combat the entrenched interests that squashed people on the right and left. >> what are the parties respecting the parties barely exist anymore. trumpet showed that and bernie almost sure that. i worked on a number of presidential campaigns with democratic campaigns and the presidential campaigns are this big and the parties are this big. the idea here is that we run a block of candidates and we get enough candidates is a big national event and the money pours and just like it did for bernie, just like it did for obama and just like it did for ron paul. hundreds of millions of dollars come in and we can run a real campaign.
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>> i don't like that label. fair enough. i live in dc so what we do. you mentioned bernie sanders and his ability to pass to the grassroots level and he was able to raise significant money but it's a very difficult thing to do and clearly hit a national platform that enabled him to do so. you also point to present trump who was underfunded in terms of the primary where you look at someone like jeb bush spent 1200 for a vote in new hampshire to place, present spent about 40. present trump also unique candidate. my question to you is what is the vetting process and how do you expect these people to sort of tap into the grassroots level where present trump was able to do this unique message in unique candidate and bernie sanders was also able to do a national platform. and it was probably a
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terrible -- back when we have 400 or 450 candidates standing on the steps of the capitol announcing their campaigns with all their amazing bios and all the stuff they've done your people we will have a national platform. it will come pouring in and volunteers will sign up. >> when can we expect that? >> for 2018 will have hopefully a couple hundred or more but a couple hundred may be enough. steve: i love the ambition. thank you very much. swap wash later on is a much see this weekend ahead. plus, could a failure to pass a health care bill put money in your wallet. our panel ways in next. fe sleepd plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i'm back! aleve pm for a better am.
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steve: welcome back. regular bag was regular viewers
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will know that i have consistently argued that we should be getting the economy moving in dealing with the crisis of jobs and incomes. a big tech support plan, especially lower corporate taxes, is vital for that. until this week we've all been led to believe that the only way to get tax form done is to finish healthcare first. while i was catching up on this week's news an intriguing report, it is. this was reported the following quote some top republicans have come to believe contrary to conventional wisdom that tax reform stands a better chance if healthcare fails so desperate will republicans and trump be for a victory. we only have a quick lightning round to talk about this but what is in the best interest of tax reform, to healthcare or let it failed to. >> i think republicans should have started with tax form. doing the reconciliation process you can do things like going across state lines so i worry
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that republicans are going to take a massive political hit with a bill that isn't as impactful as it should be. whereas tax reform is a much more politically appealing thing and would probably break would better help americans. steve: political analysis that healthcare failed. >> i said for months with my conspiracy theory hat on is that we've been managing obamacare appeal in the senate which looks like it can't happen is deliberately like let's try it, zero my god, it can't pass, let's move on to tax reform because if there's anything it's republicans like lower taxes. there's not agreement on what a conservative or republican or libertarian healthcare policy should look like.
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i totally believe that. >> is not over the fence. winds are better than losses. the fishers and the republican party over healthcare reform are real and they will carry over to text a form for lack of trust. democrats don't want any part of the truck to win. steve: is an interesting perspective. >> i do think it is less contentious. there's a discussion about border adjustment. steve: you made me feel less optimistic that we have to get out to text more but anyway. coming up we've got the diagnosis what's wrong with the pharmaceutical industry in america. storm watch is straight ahead
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steve: on her last show we asked what you wanted to hear on swamp watch. a huge number of you said
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healthcare and pharmaceuticals. whether the problems caused by obamacare for the issues of republican trying to replace that the real reason were in the fact that healthcare is because it cost too much. the reason for that is because both parties are in the pockets of big businesses that make money by pushing up cost. if the health swap. pharmaceutical companies, the hospital and clinics and the insurance companies. we wanted to spend the next week showing you what really is going on with our country's healthcare system. tonight we'll start with the pharmaceutical company. they are getting away with murder. farm is a lot of lobbyists and a lot of lobbyists and power. steve: that was then candidate donald trump on the pharmaceutical enormous influence in the swamp it is created at the expense of your health. 70% of americans take prescription drugs.
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more than any other country and it costs us more to. this chart shows that americans pay over a thousand dollars a year on pharmaceuticals, way more than every other country. denmark citizens spend $240 a year on medications and many of those drugs are developed and produced right here in the us. all the money we spent presently to better health. in fact, our health is worse. we are 26 in the world for life expectancy tied with chile. who could possibly benefit from us spending more on drug and not getting any healthier as a result pharmaceutical companies whose main incentive if felt many drugs as possible and they had a cold medicine cabinet of swampy ways to do it. we talk a lot about revolving doors in swamp watch in the pharmaceutical industry is no different. the food and drug administration is the regulatory agency that decides which drugs make it to market.
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researchers parted the careers of people reviewing medications at the fda. they found that 60% of those reviewers who left the fda went on to work for the pharmaceutical companies. they said the lead researcher if you know in the back of your mind that your career goal may be to some they work at the other side of the table, i wonder whether that changes the way you regulate. yet. i wonder. perhaps, the most blatant example of the health swap revolving door is former louisiana congressman. in 2001-2004 he chaired the health energy and commerce committee which oversees the fda. during that time drug companies with health insurance between the nearly $1 million campaign. he was instrumental in pushing the modernization act of 2003 to the house. by doing so, he ensured that medicare cannot negotiate with drug manufacturers for lower prices. he also made sure that drugs manufactured here and exported
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to canada can't be imported back to the us, just in case the right price down and actually help american consumers. then after years of pushing big pharma legislation what did he do next? he left congress to run the industry's powerful trade group, the pharmaceutical trade factions in america, a job for which he was paid $2 million a year. this is the reality of the swamp. we all pay more while in the leaf you get rich. of course, it's just as bad on the democrat side of the aisle. senator max was the man in charge of the obamacare legislation but guess who's been described as quote more personally responsible than anyone for the drafting of what became obamacare. someone you really should know about. elizabeth fowler, she was vice president of public policy at what point then america's second largest private insurance company.
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who better to become his chief help counsel? how convenient for the health swap to have one of their own people writing the obamacare legislation for them and how convenient for elizabeth fowler that after obamacare past she landed a job as head of global health policy at johnson & johnson one of the chief beneficiaries of president obama's signature legislation. these big pharma companies have deep pockets and 2016 the industry spends a massive $246 million in lobbying. the abuse of power doesn't stop there. big pharma has even corrupted clinical trials. clinical tires are supposed to be an objective scientific way of showing that new medicines are safe and effective except they are not objectives. it turns out many are ghost written by the pharmaceutical industry. they carry out their own test on their own drugs and then publish them under the names of top researchers in medical journals. researchers have nothing to do
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with the trial. a study by transparency international said this is done to quote increase the prestige and reputation of the findings while simultaneously researchers are able to improve their reputation which can lead to promotion. these shady clinical trials are a complete fraud. one industry funded trial claims that a particular antidepressant predicted 94% positive results and a lady test by the fda found 51% positive results. drug companies have also started paying doctors to participate in surveys of medicine that they never even prescribed. in fact, they spent $42 billion a year just on targeting docto doctors. remember that when you are seeing your doctor. on average, they are paid $61000 a year by the pharmaceutical industry to push particular drugs whether they work or not, whether you need them or not. the swamp extends to the
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official guidelines for prescribing drugs too. high cholesterol, eight out of nine doctors who wrote the recent national cholesterol guidelines received money from manufacturers. the psychiatrist responsible for over diagnosing children with adhd received $1.6 million for the manufacturers of the drugs used to treat it. the whole thing stinks. perhaps none of the swampy behavior is a disgraceful as the pharmaceutical industry's role in the opioid epidemic which killed 52000 americans last year. the health crisis is so bad it starting trying to drive life expectancy down in the us. for most of the last century the terrible addiction that opioids cause meant that they were shunned as a treatment for pain but that all changed in the 1990s when a large-scale lobbying and public relations effort to make opioids acceptable. part of it was run by a nonprofit, the american pain
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foundation. sounds nice, right? and nonprofit focused on reducing pain. except the organization was basically a fronts for big pharma. it received 90% of its funding from medical companies, some of their board members have extensive financial ties to drug makers and the group lobbies against limits on of your use. the most commercially successful of the new opioids is actually content. it was released in 1996 by purdue farmer with the promise that the drug to be prescribed would last risk of a book abuse and addiction. well, that turned out to be a lie. in 2007 purdue farmer paid $600 million in fines and three executives pled guilty to felony misbranding over oxycontin. don't feel too sorry for them. it is owned by the. [inaudible] family. in 2015 with the opioid epidemic that they helped cause raging
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through our country, guess where they suddenly popped up smart number 16 on forbes magazine list of richest american families. i hope they enjoyed their 14 billion-dollar fortune. the health swap is like no other. it is literally killing people while enriching those who play the game. up next, our next revolution exclusive but i don't think the other news networks will be holding their breath. we will show you what i got up to my rv trip. that is our final thoughts from our panel, next. ses to take the. at work, at home... even on the escalator. that can be hard on her lower body, so now she does it with dr. scholl's orthotics clinically proven to relieve and prevent foot, knee or lower back pain, by reducing the shock and stress that travel up her body with every step she takes. so keep on climbing, sarah.
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original revolution for the fourth of july holiday. we did it in an all-american way with an rv trip to some of the most beautiful national parks. for those who don't believe me, here i am hanging off the back of our rv. as you know, everything is bigger in america so here we are with a big boulder and with general sherman, the world's biggest tree. we were kayaking on the strip, lots of experiments with grilling and a swim in a beautiful mountain lake. of course, no july the fourth road trip would be complete without a dinosaur paddling a surfboard. thank you, america. thanks to all the dedicated park rangers who did such a busy amazing job protecting our national parks. i had fun and i hope you had fun this week on the show. i turned to the panel for the final thoughts. couple of seconds each. liz back i love your section on pharmaceuticals. i would urge people to watch
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because trump was very strong on that during the campaign and mccain was in 2008 and is most people don't like it it did with him votes. i would urge people to watch president trump does with executive orders dealing with big pharma because there's big areas where he could fix. one with the bug drug discount program which they use disproportionately and another is with this whole if we can get people and that other countries to pay more it will reduce prices here. watch out. it's a big deal to make things for having me. it's an important s >> i think of it this way, it is not about class and money. it is about who has access and who doesn't. who is on the inside versus the outside. >> lisa. ? >> i think president trump is consistently underestimated. we saw that and it's the detriment of his critics where we saw 65% of voters now believe there's a significant amount of fake news in the media. the dnc had its worst may fund-raising record since 2003.
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everyone thought trump would be politically poisonous in georgia. there's a reason his name wasn't mentioned once in paid advertising. >> great thoughts. thank you for joining us. join us next week on the next revolution. president trump is back in washington after his first meeting with vladimir putin. what should we look for in relations between the u.s. and russia? >> we look forward to a lot of very positive things happening, for russia, for the united states, and for everybody concerned. >> in the wake of the g-20 summit, we will discuss where things stand on syria, ukraine, russian meddling in the last election and the trump agenda. when we sit down with white house chief of staff reines priebus. it is a fox news sunday exclusive. then the senate returns from recess still confronted with what to do about obama care. his

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