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>> neil: they are still talking in the stomach, and markets are kind of okay with all of this. in record territory. they are not worried. should you be? >> eric: i am eric bolling with eboni k. williams and kat timpf and we are "the fox news specialists" ." president trump comes out swinging in paris, defending his son donald trump, jr. over his meeting with russian lawyers natalia veselnitskaya. >> i think from a practical standpoint, most people would've taken that meeting. it's called opposition research or even research into your opponents. i've only been in politics for two years but i've had many people call up. we have information on this factor or this person.
frankly, hillary. that's very standard in politics. politics is not the nicest business in the world but it's very standard. >> eric: also signing off over a new report detailing how the obama-era department of justice let natalia veselnitskaya in the country. listen to this. >> the lawyer that went to the meeting, she was in the halls of congress also. somebody said that her visa or passport to come into the country was approved by attorney general lynch. maybe that's wrong. i just heard that a little while ago but i was surprised to hear that. she was here because of lidge. >> eric: , "the hill" reports that natalia veselnitskaya had been turned down for a visa and 2015 but granted special immigration parole by loretta lynch so she could help defend a russian client in a federal court case in new york. so the plot thickens. eboni, that's a little bit of a
new revelation. chuck grassley yesterday alluded to that. how did she get in when she was turned down for a visa and if she got in via the obama administration, isn't this on obama, not trump? >> eboni: everyone has to get their lawyer in, right? i think before we start connecting the dots, all of the steps should be traced back to the root. that's fair and if it comes back to an obama administration interest, we have to look at it for what it is. if i were going to wait and see whether somebody messed up or not. i don't think it removes blamed for donald trump, jr. making his own decisions. he has the same age as macron, he's not a kid. president trump called him a ki kid. it's a little funny. >> eric: veselnitskaya decides to come here and pitch and pedal and lobby for her issue which is adoption.
she gets over here and then it looks like she gets in through the obama administration. told everyone she had a client. she ends up being donald trump, jr. into a meeting, lobbing her idea and then goes to congress and starts -- we have reports she was all over congress over the next ten days preaching her adoption idea. i am trying to figure out how trump is on the hook. a whole lot of russia-obama administration. >> eboni: donald trump, jr. would've had to know that. absent that, there's strict analysis around donald trump, jr.'s decision to meet with her. >> eric: will get into it. let's meet today's specialists. political analyst, radio host, fox news contributor. sufficient she specializes in pg classical piano. leslie marshall. republican strategist. in 2008, he served in that state finance leader in california for
rudy giuliani's presidential bid. he's the chairman of the pro donald trump america pac. he specializes an indoor cycling. eric beach is here. so you can ask the question, did donald trump, jr. that the meeting well enough or not? the reason why this russian lawyer was even in town was because of loretta lynch under obama let her in. >> loretta lynch let her in because there was a client that she was the attorney for that needed representation. they allowed her to stay longer because they were waiting for the motion. then when she was here, she definitely met with different people regarding opening up adoption with russia again. as a parent, i'm in favor of anything we can do to help people throughout the world adopt children that need homes. but she was not up front, not only with the department of
justice. she also allegedly was not up front with donald trump, jr. to kat's point, when he saw who she was, where she came from and what she wanted to meet about, that should have been the stop sign. because she's from russia. it does matter. get dirt on your opponent, no question, but when you get it from and who you meet with certainly matters. >> i think loretta lynch and the obama justice department let her in. it seemed to be no problem with her. at the end of the day, president trump is right. as a political practitioner, you want to have as much opposition research as you possibly can. i ran one of the largest super pacs in the country for president trump and we had people coming to us all the time talking about how to win the election. at the end of the day, donald trump was trying to win an election. furthermore, i'm not convinced there is anything that shapes this narrative of collusion. we have been hearing it.
if this is all they have deployed to collusion, good luck. >> eboni: when you are raising money and obviously that's a -- what type of questions do you conduct when you are betting? >> first and foremost, i don't look at political giving something at a status quo or give back. it's a form of patriotism. people have an opportunity to support a candidate, whether or he or she runs on something. donald trump ran against the status quo. he didn't win because of celebrity. he ran against a broken and failed system. i believe that's why most people give to a political campaign because they see -- >> eboni: do you ask certain questions? >> of course. it's all regulated. at the end of the day, this wasn't about political giving. this was, was there evidence
hillary clinton gave during her campaign or tenure as secretary of state that might've been out-of-bounds. >> eric: leslie, this is like the ninth or tenth bombshell revelation that the left and the media and democrats on the hill are saying they discovered. russians hacking the election, changing the votes, comey got fired, comey's memos, trump demanded comey loyalty. russian foreign minister in the oval office. goes on and on. >> i wouldn't say everything fizzles out. there was a mammal. comey was fired and he was uncomfortable with some of the things the present was saying and asking him to do but i will agree every time we see russian salad dressing. they don't need to get crazy. we do have an investigation and we need to let it play out. then perhaps we will see collusion, obstruction of justice, articles of impeachmen
impeachment, and i think that's what we need to do. >> eboni: v block. >> eric: we had articles of impeachment recommended but we had tim kaine yesterday doubling down a little bit, suggesting treason. treason is a capital offense. you can -- it's punishable by death. >> eboni: it also requires war, that we are actively at war. i don't know why tim kaine is on that talking point. as leslie is saying, we do have an investigation many people feel the investigation should go away but i would submit its best for the trump administration to let the investigation play out. it's the only way for many people who are not satisfied with some answers right now that the cloud will be removed. >> eric: let me throw this to you, kat. french president macron said " "well we may have a lot of discrepancies with russia, it's in france's best interest to have good relationship with the
them. sounds very familiar. >> kat: i love hearing we are working having a better relationship with russia. it doesn't do the people here any good to not have one. i like to see president trump taking that approach. it's something i see as separate. i hate the idea that just because there's an investigation that any attempts of diplomacy has to be slammed or looked at with suspicion. that doesn't do any of us any good. ultimately he's the president. we want him to do the things that are best for the country. >> eric: eric, doesn't do the -- does it do the country any good when someone mentions d there's another investigation. >> the democrats have been undercutting our diplomacy. at the end of the day, do they want us to go to war with russia? going back to one point, macron and president trump have a lot of commonalities. they are both outsiders. when we talk about the culture of confidence, we talk about the work against isis, the number
one thing donald trump ran on. protecting american interests. i hate to say about russia is part of the war against isis, our biggest threats. >> eboni: i don't disagree with that my think a lot of people have questions around russia's agenda versus the american agenda and how long they can coexist in harmony. at some point, are they going to be in direct conflict? >> you're talking about going to war with russia over the emails it's as crazy as democrats saying treason. >> eric: no one is actually suggesting going to war. by the way, let's be honest. russia has been trying to hack and influence our elections since the cold war. we have been doing the same to them. this is common practice. >> it doesn't mean we should protect ourselves. >> eric: of course we should. if donald trump says i want to meet or talk or shake the foreign ministers handed the oval office, we shouldn't be pulling four levels of
investigations. >> to your point earlier, both of you, with the relationship we have with world leaders, certainly want to keep good relationships. obviously north korea would not be on my list. with regard to russia, you have to remember we have to be very careful with them. russian hacking aside, look at their position with the iranians, their position with the chinese and their position with syria, it's concerning. we are not necessarily batting for the same team and have the same agenda and the same goals even. >> eboni: leslie is expressing, where some people feel less uncomfortable around president trump, not because he's having the meeting or because he is exercising but because i don't think, if being straight up, a topic they trust president trump is a healthy suspicion of vladimir putin and the russian agenda. that's what i'm hearing. >> eric: probably most important thing for the russian economy is the price of oil.
everything trump has done has driven the price of oil and gas down, and that hurts russia. if he was really this inclusion or colluded with president putin, you don't think he would be doing that. i wouldn't expect him to be doing that. he's literally destroying, dismantling the russian economy himself. >> kat: he's done certain things russia wouldn't have wanted them to do but i'm not going to play armchair investigator. i'm going to wait for the fbi investigators to do their job and will see what happens. >> eric: we are six months and then seven investigations in. >> the feds are slow-moving. how long did it take for watergate? >> eric: watergate, there was a crime immediately. >> impeachment didn't happen the next day. >> eric: criminality and watergate. this is completely different. this this is a witch hunt. >> this is not a witch hunt and
it involves a lot more people. >> eric: this is throwing legal darts of the dartboard and trying to hit a target. >> donald trump set of best when he said, do you really think vladimir putin wanted me to win this election? you have to look at the actions, not the words. i don't agree that he's not suspicious of putin or russia. i do think at the end of the day, common ground, tried to get that. >> eric: democrats hitting a pathetic new low. eboni mentioned it. one congressman has filed an article of impeachment against president trump. are you kidding me? don't go away. what if we pull customer insights from the data
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interfering with the probe into russia's election meddling. the congressman explain why on tucker carlson's show last night. >> the hope is that it triggers an investigation, and intervention in the white house. this is a faint hope, that his staff is finally able to say no it's real articles. for that and so many other reasons, mr. president, you've got to stop announcing reversals and foreign policy at 4:00 in the morning in 140 characters per you've got to stop making foreign policy in complete ignorance of the facts. >> eboni: as tucker pointed out, sounds like he wants to impeach the president so he will stop tweeting. leslie, i'm going to go to you. we are kind of laughing about it but it's a serious thing. most of us remember the clinton impeachment trial, we know what it looks like. the heaviness of it. how does it sit with you that this congressman is admitting he's doing this not really to actively impeach the president but some type of intervention mechanism.
he admits it's a faint attempt. >> i live in l.a. not my congressman. i am with adam schiff. even maxine waters is not on board signing up for this. we have two people, al green in texas and ben sherman in california. part of the problem here is we don't really have, if you just google the articles of impeachment, -- >> eric: high crimes and misdemeanors. >> as we talked about in the first segment, you've got to let this play out. you have to have the investigation. doesn't help the party. it doesn't help the people, and it certainly doesn't help the process. >> eboni: does it hurt the party? >> i think it does. we have some fragmentation in the party as it is. there are a lot of people out there who want donald trump to be impeached. just because you want something, doesn't mean it will happen. it's wrong, in the process and
what we all want is the truth. and i feel the special counsel will give to the truth if we let him. this is a diversion, and i think it's wrong, and i don't like when the people in my party do it. adam schiff said it's beyond premature to talk about impeachment at this point. i agree. >> eboni: is it a field day for the g.o.p.? two erics. >> the house approved 1.6 billion for the wall today. congressman sherman is not careful, we might extended to the california border. i'm a little bit disappointed to be a california resident and this is our representation. here's the deal. you can talk about his tweets, reversing bingham foreign policy policy but i don't think either the media or the democrats understand why donald trump was elected. he was not elected because of the rhetoric. he was elected because, again, he ran a ran against a system f
failure. he talked about securing the border. that wasn't being talked about. donald trump ran a different type of campaign, and i'm sorry that some of these congressmen need to catch up. >> eboni: the eric bolling. >> eric: we talked about a couple nights ago, feels like the democrats are so invested in, catching trump in the occlusion story, they've spent some so much time and effort and breathless accusations that every nugget, they continue to blow up. i spent the first part of my life after baseball as an investor. one of the first things you learn in an investment is it's not how you make on a winning trade, it's how much you don't lose. you cut your losses when you're wrong. the democrats have been wrong and wrong and wrong. we are on our tenth bombshell revelation and none are panning out. fine, you're right. let's see what mueller has to
say but can we put this aside when he's done? >> not if he recommends impeachment and you have a republican congress that won't do it. >> eric: for what? >> we don't know. >> eric: they've linked every single thing this guy's life has been about promote don't you think they would leak the most damning thing in the world? >> is not just about the president. there are different people involved. eboni is an attorney. you don't cut a deal and ask for immunity unless you're going to jail. >> kat: obviously he does not think he's going to actually be able to impeach the president. i think what he wanted to do was do something where people would start to maybe know who the hill brad sherman is because i've never heard of him before and now were all talking about him.
it is just like the things eric brings up, over blowing things in the media. this has the same negative impact of not taking it seriously. they are calling for impeaching him now. that just shows their motivations aren't in the correct place. >> when do we allow bureau creates to dictate. the fbi is not a separate branch of government. at the end of the day you also have to look at what the recommendations are and if they don't go. >> eboni: i think that's dangerous, eric. if we start undermining the intelligence agencies. >> kat: the fbi is supposed to do the fbi's job. >> eboni: senate republicans reveal their revamped
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>> kat: doesn't have the votes? that's the question rocketing around capitol hill after senate republicans released their new health care bill today. among the highlights, health insurance will be allowed to sell low-cost policies with limited coverage and obamacare taxes on the wealthy would be kept in place. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell pressing the case for its passage. >> the american people deserve better than obamacare. this is our opportunity to really make a difference on health care. this is our chance to bring about changes we been talking about since obamacare was forced on the american people. it's time to rise to the occasion. the american people deserve
better. and the pain of obamacare. they deserve better care, and the time to deliver that for them is next week. sb five republican senators rand paul and senator susan collins already announcing their opposition to the bill, meaning republicans cannot lose another vote. eric, got to tell you. the fact that this is the big bailout bill is the conservative answer to health care it makes me quite frankly sad. >> eric: you get into arguments with fellow conservatives who say anything is better than nothing and i disagree vehemently. going into 2018 with this bill, the cbo has told us that if you are 50 and older at a low income level, you are going to pay more premium than obamacare. how in the world are you going to win 2018 house seats when one of your main voting blocs is going to be worse off than under obamacare and you've been complaining about it for seven years. i hope they table it. i don't think they will but i
don't think they have the votes. rand paul, susan collins, and mccain. >> eboni: i don't know how mitch mcconnell says this. i agree that america deserves better. the g.o.p. has the opportunity to deliver but they are squandering it at every turn. i think this is a sad and, a stronger word, i think it's irresponsible what the g.o.p. is doing. >> if nothing else, we know definitively that this bill is not right for america because eric bolling and i agree on it. we agree it's not right. all jokes aside, lisa murkowski's phones are running off the hook. he's not going to have the votes. if he's not addressing things the republicans to constituents constituents -- >> eric: you're talking about mitch mcconnell. you are not talking about trump. let's be clear. this is a senate bill. >> absolutely.
i'm not talking about the president. i am talking about that senate, senator mcconnell. the gop's problem is that one of the issues with obamacare is the rising cost of premiums. we see in report after report it doesn't address that. their constituents are the middle and lower income americans. by 2026, 26 million people would be off medicaid. ten years later, in 2036, you are talking about 35 million people. a lot of these individuals are their constituents. asking older people to pay even more, this is worse than obamacare. let's remember that the implementation to undo something and put something in place, especially something in place that's worse, it's not just a political nightmare. you are putting politics over people, and that's going to be a huge issue in the midterm election for republicans if my fellow democrats get off the couch and vote.
>> kat: it's a big bailout bill and it's the conservative bill. it makes me depressed that we've reached a place, are there conservatives anymore if conservatives are saying let's do this? >> i used to work with rand paul and i consider him a friend. there's $200 billion in new taxes. there's one thing we can unite on, that's repealing obamacare. that's what republicans ran on. i agree with eric, something that we get done is something better than obamacare. that's not what we ran on. >> eric: there's a cool way to tackle this. you promised repealing her place. okay, we'll get to that. in the meantime you can keep obamacare, just not make it mandatory. offer a g.o.p. alternative. pick and choose which one you want, by max in time, continue to have the house and senate and the white house. put together a bill that works. >> eboni: that sounds reasonable but it's not okay to
repeal it and not offer anything in its place. i've heard the idea floated and i think it would be a disaster in terms of actual american people. >> the most politically expedient thing would be to let obamacare fail. donald trump is donna's job -- has done his job. congress needs to act. >> kat: had, disturbing news in a murder mystery in pennsylvania.
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>> eric: welcome back to "the fox news specialists." some breaking news on a grim murder mystery in pennsylvania. rick leventhal joins us now with the latest. >> eric, we know there was one person of interest in this case, cosmo dinardo, 20-year-old whose parents on the farm where investigators have been searching for the four missing men. there were reporters gathered outside a courthouse for a grand jury convening to consider charges against cosmo and we have just learned from one of our colleagues this is now being reported by other news outlets that cosmo dinardo has confessed all four murders of the four men who been missing since last week. cosmo dinardo's attorney came out. our colleague at fox 29 is reporting that in exchange for a confession, cosmo would not face the death penalty. to bring our viewers up to speed, this investigation began
when these men went missing. investigators went to the farm on sunday because apparently a cell phone ping. they brought cadaver dogs and those dogs hit on the site where they began digging. last night at midnight, authorities revealed they had found a mass grave on the property. they had positively identified 19-year-old dean finocchiaro. the only question was whether the other three missing men, mark sturgis, jimi patrick, and tom meo were in the grave. investigators are continuing to work. rain started falling about an hour ago. we've been waiting for an update from the district attorney and we are hearing from local media. the d.a.'s office re-tweeting some reports that the only person of interest in this case,
cosmo dinardo, has confessed. the other question would be whether anyone else helped him not just to murder those for men but also bury them. >> eric: is there any indication, it looks like the demographic of the victims, he confessed to the four victims, and any indication where he met them? where did he find them? >> it's a good question. that's a question we've been asking the d.a. and investigators all week. they've been a bit allusive, saying they are trying to piece together how these young men knew each other. we've heard a lot of rumors. we don't want to report on the rumors. two of the four worked with each other and reportedly cosmo dinardo was seen with one of those men in his vehicle on friday. the reason why they came together and the reason why he may have killed them is something for the investigation to reveal. >> eboni: first of all, with the suspect here, do we know about any prior criminal histor
history? >> well, he was arrested on a weapons charge in february because he had mental issues and had been involuntarily committed and was not allowed to possess a weapon. a judge had dismissed the charge but they recharged him earlier this week when they considered him a suspect in this case. they put him in jail, and his dad bailed him out with $100,000 cashiers check. then they rearrested him on a stolen vehicle charge yesterday because they said he stole one of the vehicles belonging to one of the missing men and then tried to sell it. that's why he was locked up again on a $5 million cash bail. they didn't want him to get out. >> eboni: i know you said he confessed. his lawyer said that publicly, but that's different from him actually pleading guilty. as you said, maybe some mental health concerns. we could possibly looking at not
guilty by reason of insanity or something like that. >> that would be a consideration, i guess. i'm not a lawyer but i would say if he's confessing in in exchange for no death penalty in this case, then presumably they are drawing something up and there won't be any need for a trial. this thing could be adjudicated before that. >> kat: is there any word on the motive or we are not that far? >> well, it's a good question. it's what a lot of people are wondering, why he would do this. again, we've heard rumors but there's been nothing official about -- he wasn't even named a suspect before today, just a person of interest. there's really nothing firm from the d.a.'s office that we can report as to what he might be motivated to kill these four young men. >> eric: the car he was attempting to sell, was it owned by the one they've confirmed, the i.d., the one confirmed i.d.
>> the car they found belonged to a young man named tom meo. >> eric: rick, thank you. up next, if you thought san francisco couldn't get more any politically correct or incorrect, you are sadly mistaken. transit officials are censoring crime surveillance videos. i noticed it as soon as we moved into the new house. ♪ a lot of people have vertical blinds. well, if a lot of people jumped off a bridge, would you? you hungry? i'm okay right -- i'm... i'm becoming my, uh, mother. it's been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. pumpkin, bundling our home and auto insurance is a good deal! like buying in bulk! that's fun, right?
>> kat: in our "what's even happening" segment, surveillance video is no longer safe from the grip of political correctness. in san francisco, a series of robberies in recent months where teen mobs form and attack innocent passengers and steal their valuables. surveillance videos exist, which could be used to catch criminals
but we can't show you. they are refusing to release it to the public. the teen mobs are reportedly made up primarily of minority youth so transit officials say releasing the video would promote "racially insensitive commentary" and promote "a racial bias in the riders." >> eric: how did race get into it? minorities or under age? only about the race? >> kat: it could promote racially insensitive discussion but they are still out there. these are repeated attacks. people riding the subway could really use a look at it to maybe know how to protect themselves. >> eboni: i think there's a lot of ways to combat a systematic and oppressive dynamic that goes on against people of color in this country. that's not one of them. >> kat: it creates additional problems, right? >> $35 million deficit. could be better spent. undercuts law enforcement officials, the ability to do their job, protect the citizens, the riders who want to ride the
public transportation to and from whatever area. i wish we had better reinforcement of our law enforcement because this is something that really undermines their authority. >> eric: eboni, is it racially insensitive to name a suspect, a perp fleeing the scene, with a racial description? >> eboni: no, if they are in active pursuit, it's important for public safety. it's got to be consistent. >> eric: telling police not to name the race have a suspect. >> eboni: we are talking about a larger conversation. we talk about race and culture. it's an overreaction what you're describing. it's horrible but i think the consistency of the problem. when you see the footage in coverage and it looks like person of color after person of color after person of color. >> because of their age?
because they are juveniles. that's a different thing. when they said it was because of it being racially insensitive, going further, apparently bart received, once people found out these were minority youth, there were huge amounts of phone calls and emails were extremely racist. i have to say as a liberal living in diverse southern california, having lived in northern california, the people can handle it. they want bart to be transparent. minorities are also victims of these crimes. we want to catch these individuals. one of the crimes was violence, one was stealing a cell phone. if you can protect -- and by the way, the liberal san franciscans out there have complained. it >> eboni: bart has a history with this. they'd been at fault and they've not been responsible in previous cases. i think they are trying to make up for some bad behavior. >> kat: another absurd story playing out in san francisco. in the ninth circuit court of
appeals. it heard arguments in a very real lawsuit involving a monkey who gained fame in 2011. he took up photographers camera and took us healthy, the photographer included the stealthy in the book. the photographer is being sued by an animal rights group for copyright protection on behalf of the monkey, arguing that the photographer violated the monkey's rights. i'm not a lawyer. >> eboni: there is a standing issue. on behalf of the monkey? really? i don't think the monkey cares. >> eric: now the ninth circuit is getting something they are qualified for. >> kat: not an expert but i think probably know copyright for the monkey.
>> eboni: brilliant legal analysis. >> kat: he's a monkey. does anyone disagree? >> you never know what the ninth court of appeals was going to d do. they took "under god" out of the pledge of allegiance. 80% of the rulings are overturned. >> eric: the temporary moratorium on travel, the same ninth circuit that decided incorrectly that it was unconstitutional. >> so far, everybody in the court has laughed. props to the monkey. that's a heck of a selfie. focus, smiling, it's great. it's not the owner of the monkey. that would be different. you didn't ask if you could take a picture of my monkey. we are subject -- >> eboni: it is opportunistic.
i've seen cases with the humane society or different organizations come into protect -- >> how was the monkey harmed? he took a picture of himself. >> eboni: it's a win for the monkey. >> kat: this keeps going on and on. i guess it matters to somebody. >> eric: it keeps going on and on. this segment. [laughter] this is what they should be occupying their time with, the monkey. >> kat: when we return, we will circle back with leslie marshall and eric beach. we will talk a lot more about the monkey. i love how usaa gives me the peace of mind and the security
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>> no, a quick story. i had a scholarship to a very procedures, i will not say, school to be a classical pianist. i didn't go. that was a disappointment to some in my family. i didn't play for very long time. i needed therapy. to get over it. i don't play. >> eboni: eventually returned to playing. >> a little bit. >> kat: era, he said you love indoor cycling. it's something i always try to make myself go to but i seem to have trouble. >> mary a spin instructor, that's what i did. she will make you go. if you're married to a spin instructor. >> kat: a direct order, i get it. >> eric: keep trying to catch her. >> it's hard to do. >> eric: eboni, i'm going to ask you about your book. >> eboni: up on the full
screen, available at amazon.com and barnes & noble.com. out september 12. it's been a real labor of love. as a young girl, i grew up in the pageant world but i wanted to be a lawyer. took social justice and politics very seriously. i had a hard time reconciling it, being concerned with my appearance as a woman but also being involved with the issues i cared about. i interviewed some colleagues, judge jeanine pirro, monica crowley, meghan mccain, marsha clark. i interviewed women and told my story about reconciling the two really important parts of a woman's power, being powerful professionally. >> eric: congratulations. >> eboni: thank you. thank you to our fox news specialists, leslie marshall and eric beach. thank you for watching us.
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