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there. thanks for inviting us into your home, that's it for this "special report." fair, balanced, and unafraid. "the story" hosted by my colleague martha maccallum starts right now. speak to it tonight you are looking live at the white house this evening with the president is meeting right this minute over dinner some senators and a bit of arm-twisting no doubt. he's been criticized for not getting more involved in the boat wrangling over health care, so we will see if he successful tonight. all this and a new poll that says the americans look at the meeting with russians and donald trump, jr., and they see a mistake, but no real collusion yet. the president, no surprise, agreed with that. a tweet from him today. most politicians would have gone into a meeting like the one he attended in order to get info on an opponent. that's politics, he says. michael caputo just testified as a former top trump campaign
aide. someone with long-standing ties to russia, they wanted to speak with him and so do we so he is here in just a moment. first ed henry live at the white house with more on this beautiful summer evening, hello ed. >> good to see you, it's been a brutal week after that revelation about his son, donald trump, jr., attending a meeting with a russian lawyer was offering up dirt on hillary clinton. a glimmer of hope for the president tonight. and that bowl you mentioned from "the washington post," abc news. they found on the question of collusion, a majority of americans do not believe the campaign worked with officials from russia to be clinton. here's the key. only 40% believe the trump campaign help the russians and their impact to select the election. roughly the same percentage believe there were some collusion back in april and the same poll. think about all the screaming headlines, a whole pile of them in the last three months or everything from donald trump junior meeting to the firing of
james comey. in the numbers haven't moved at all. there's been virtually no change in the public perception of whether or not there was collusion. "the washington post," abc news poll has other signs of real trouble for the president. only 26% believed the meeting with the russian lawyer was appropriate, 63% declared it was actually inappropriate in the white house may not have been helped by jay, one of the outside lawyers appearing on talk shows yesterday and offering a new defense of the trump tower meeting that simply didn't hold up. >> i wondered why the secret service -- if this was nefarious white of the secret service allow these people in. he had secret service protection, that raised the question with me. >> a spokesman for the secret service told us in june of 2016 donald trump, jr., did not have secret service protection back then, so they had nothing to do with screening that meeting, yet another sort of example where the story hasn't held up and that's why democrats like mark warner tonight are suggesting the
white house has a credibility problem. >> martha: very interesting, thank you so much. michael caputo, one of president trump's former advisors has found himself front and center in the russia story. before a closed session on the house intel committee, he joins us now. good to have you with us, welcome, good evening to you. >> michael: thanks for inviting me. >> martha: absolutely. how would you characterize your interrogation by the intelligence committee on frida friday? >> michael: i would say thorough. i also think it sounded a lot like a fishing expedition, but i also think it feels a little bit fair. to me, i expected to go in there and be treated very poorly by the democrats, i want the same public hearing everybody else did and that public hearing, representative jackie spear called out my wife for some reason, which is supposed to be off limits. and everything since then has been really negative. i expected to have
representative schiff be rude, but he was a gentleman, they treated me strongly and they were directed at questioning but i felt ultimately it was fair. >> martha: do you think they believed you when you said you never heard any discussion about russia are working with russia toward any end in the campaign, did they believe you? >> michael: i don't know. representative schiff has a poker face for sure. they were very direct in their questioning. i think they are looking for reasons to extend this as long as they can. we know from "shattered" the bush that was published about hillary clinton campaign, the top team met the dale after her failure and decided the collusion would be the way that they tied donald trump's hands. they've been pretty successful with that. i expect they want that success to keep going as long as
possible. i think they want this investigation to last forever. >> martha: one of the things that certainly help to feel that was this email chain that was found with donald trump junior. you have said, you are not a huge fan of, it was sort of an opposite sides in the campaign, but both of you very strongly came out and said there was never any discussion. nobody brought up this idea of this being a good way to sort of help win the election. everybody saw this email and donald, jr., himself and said i never had any conversations with the russians. now it undermines the credibility of that statement and now they wonder who else hasn't told us everything they know and who was in the room? it does feel this. >> michael: it does. each one of us is kind of a frog in the water. this kind of thing turns up the heat on all of us, those of us who find ourselves in the jackpot of this investigation.
i guess it extends the life of it, perhaps it makes it more complicated for us, but i'm satisfied with donald trump, jr.,'s candor when he kind of took blame for it and said he would have done things differently. i've always respected donald trump, jr., and all of the kids. i have to tell you, if it makes it tougher on us, it's okay because here's the thing, donald trump, sr., would not be president today without the hard work of donald, jr., and his siblings, and if he made a few mistakes here or there i think the country and myself, i can forgive him for it. >> martha: interesting. one of the people i find very interesting as rob goldstone. i heard an interesting documentary on his back on. it's kind of weird that he would send an email saying they will give you the goods, right? who knows what donald trump, jr.,'s intonation -- emails can be kind of deceiving when you look at the words on the paper. he said if that's what they have, i love it. if it is what you say.
what do you know about rob goldstone? >> michael: not much, but i would like to have a beer with him sometime, he seems like a pretty interesting character. >> martha: he is an character all right. >> michael: absolutely. the whole family was surrounded by characters. business development at hollywood and branding and people like goldstone weave themselves in and out of this kind of world all the time. he's a promoter and that is certainly -- i don't know much about him, i think it was close to the family in someway so when an intermediary that was familiar to him sent him an email, i think that helped donald trump along the path of making that mistake. i have to agree with the president on this. when we had opposition research offers coming across, a flow of it coming in at a rate i've never seen in the 30 years of my campaign career. i've never seen anything like it, they were coming across every platform. everybody was getting this stuff.
you have to understand why they were looking for a way to defeat hillary clinton and you have to understand why donald trump donald trump, jr., who doesn't have a lot of experience in campaigns can fall into this situation. >> martha: i understand what you're saying. do you think there's anything more here, that once again becomes the question. is there a connection? the only thing anybody has boiled down this russian hacking potentially to -- and i know you say you do think they were involved to some extent, the embarrassing emails, and hillary clinton's campaign believes was integral to them losing in the last leg of this campaign. is there an email out there that shows any connection between anyone in the trim campaign that you know of and any discussion about emails or releasing those emails? >> michael: certainly none that i know of, none of my emails will show this. i know i had nothing to do with colluding with the russians, nobody ever said the word russia to me in the entire time i worked on that campaign. i never heard it discussed by
other people, i can imagine that roger stone or paul manafort did. i've known them for 30 years. i'm a bit surprised to find out about donald trump, jr.,'s emails and i think that it's important for the investigators to get to the bottom of this. >> martha: michael caputo. >> michael: we want the people to understand there's nothing to it. >> martha: thank you very much, good to see you tonight, thanks for coming in. founder of the rorschach university's institute of politics and public service, both are fox news contributors. he could to have you here. let me start with you, you listen to mr. caputo and am curious to ask you how credible you think he is. you go through the fact that carter and roger stone and all these people who were the initial names that the investigators were so fired up about, now they don't even really need to talk to, they are saying. they are moving on down the chain. how strong is the case that there's anything there beyond what we know so far, which is
the latest news from last week? >> look, i don't know how strong the case is, are not part of the investigation, i'm not privy to everything they have. what's becoming increasingly apparent is that every day there seems to be more information coming to light that is at least of interest to the investigation. you asked about mr. caputo and his credibility. this is a guy who did work for a while at a p.r. firm that had mr. putin as a client, or pro-putin as a client. >> martha: he claims very strong voice was never working on his image. >> he has set on the record that mr. putin was not a bad guy. look, poke caputo aside for a moment. what we know is that high-ranking officials in the trim campaign met with an agent of the russian government who at
least pretended to give them information about the clinton campaign. it turns out that this person may not have had that information, but they went into this meeting expecting that. they went into this meeting expecting to receive something and they wanted to see if it would pan out. that is a problem and the president is wrong. not everybody would do that. i don't know a single campaign on either side of the aisle, most republican campaigns i know would walk away from that meeting. >> martha: except for ted kennedy trying to dig up some stuff for the russians on ronald reagan and perhaps the ukrainian connection with the dnc strategist. it's interesting to me, because everybody seems to be very sort of talking along the lines of that he is here. when anyone has covered a campaign like we have, the dirt people try to dig up on each other as part of the daily. somebody says we would never do that. am i wrong?
>> they are shocked. mo, if you say you wouldn't have taken this meeting i trust you, articulate your word, but i have to call bull when you say other people wouldn't. if there's not a single person in washington who has run a presidential campaign in the last 40 years who wouldn't have taken any meeting with anyone in order to get dirt on their opponent. >> this is where you're wrong. >> i know these people just as you do. >> i was one of those people! >> i take you at your word that you wouldn't do it. >> not from a foreign governmen government. someone who pretended to be that. >> martha: hold on. >> i do believe that there are plenty of people who are upstanding enough that they would report it at that time. >> martha: that has happened, we should point out. i don't see how that would have at least not taken the meeting to see what the heck is going on here. the other thing is, it's clear
donald trump, jr., had never been part of a campaign before. evidenced by those emails and the fact that he would have stumbled in to a whole mess like this. he himself said -- >> martha: he said himself he should have handled it differently. when you look at the poll, the american people it looks like by and large are looking at the same thing i get it, that was inappropriate, that's according to the polls. but i still don't see the connection. >> we are still in the early stages in the investigation and if you go back and look at public opinion during the watergate era you would see that early on at this point in the watergate investigation we were still very polarized. republicans thought this was much ado about nothing and democrats were all up in arms about it and that's very similar to what we are seeing now. >> martha: i've got to leave it. >> there was a crime in watergate! there's no crime! >> martha: thank you, to be continued. we now know who was in the room as we await for the details from a last-minute meeting at the
white house on the stalled effort to repeal and replace obamacare. the president is very focused on it, he's invited them over to dinner to hash this out. new developments into who in the obama administration unmasked the trump campaign officials. tonight we are learning the issues that go well beyond what we previously thought. judge napolitano is right here in the studio and he's coming over to the table in a moment. a growing outrage tonight after a terrorist who admittedly killed an american gets a huge payday from canada. how was this allowed, why isn't the widow of the soldier getting a time, this is a maddening story and we will lay it out for you, on its way. >> i really hope that talk about the settlement or apologies does not cause people pain. micah wit
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>> martha: we are back and breaking tonight, we now know who was in the room during a last-minute closed-door white house meeting on health care this evening. we will get you up to speed on that as soon as that gets underway. we want to go to catherine herridge, do we have her with us tonight? seated and ready to go, good. a little hesitation as we figure that out, but she has been
looking into the alleged unmasking of the trump officials by the obama administration. how many obama officials could find themselves testifying in front of congress? payment to make that list may be growing a little bit. catherine joins us live from washington with the latest. >> this is really shaping up to be a heavy week of testimony from former obama administration officials with fox news confirming tonight that former national security advisor susan wright is scheduled to appear before the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors as part of the russian investigation, though it's not clear yet on the timing this week. former white house chief of staff denis mcdonough is excepted before the same panel as early as tomorrow or thursday with the former director of national intelligence james clapper appearing today before both the house and intelligence committees. the central line of questioning is going to be who requested the identification. this process is called unmasking. april wright defended her actions.
>> this is not anything political has been alleged. if the allegation is that somehow the obama administration officials utilized intelligence for political purposes, that's absolutely false. if you want match of republican chairman of the house issued subpoenas in may as part of a separate investigation. fox news pulled up the fbi, cia and national security agency have fully complied with that request. the source who acknowledged the review set the record suggested the unmasking goes beyond the officials writes as well as former john brennan and former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. samantha power. the source said more than a half dozen senior obama administration officials are no of interest to committee investigators. it's important to note the congressional scrutiny at this point does not mean investigators have concluded that any laws or internal regulations were broken. >> martha: thank you so much.
here now tonight judge napolitano, sr., judicial analyst, good to have you back. >> thank you. what you think about what you just reported there. i think catherine as usual has found something that is probably the tip of the iceberg. there's two kinds of unmasking, in the ordinary course of intelligence work the white house will receive a transcript of the conversation or some communication between an american and a foreign agent and it might be necessary for the white house fully to appreciate the content that we know the american's. that american is unmasked. that is a lawful unmasking. >> martha: if there's a compelling national security reason to do so. >> andrew: correct. if the unmasking was done for political reasons or to embarrass the american or the person of phil as affiliated with the american with the president-elect, that's a felony, so if these two committees, the house intelligence committee and the senate intelligence committee discover that other than susan
rice, people in the obama administration unmasked potential persons in the trump administration in order to embarrass, humiliate, frustrate. >> martha: it will be a fine line. we'll go back to "the new york times" story which basically said that there was a big effort in the obama white house during the end of their administration before president trump became president to get all the little things they could and with all the breadcrumbs they could on the russia investigation because they were very concerned about connections between the administration and russians. they wanted to do that, they wanted to unmask those names, they got michael flynn's name out there, which we know. >> andrew: and somehow a portion of his conversation ends up in the newspaper. that portion humiliated him, started the fbi investigation, -- >> martha: all right, but is it -- when they talked of these committees and they say we were concerned about their interactions with russia and so we need to know whose names were on those, just assuming that for a moment.
then they can't explain how it got to the newspaper, the mayor cover, they will say it was a national security issue, we had every reason to do it, and if they can't nail it down, who leaked it, then they have nobod nobody. >> andrew: correct, however there is somebody else out there by the name of robert mueller who has the independent counsel, whose job it is to investigate everything rationally related to the allegations about russia so as an effort to humiliate the incoming trump administration, a last-minute change in the rules what's everybody in the intelligence community share everything, was this done in order to frustrate the new president, in order to paint a false picture of him, and is there any criminal activity there like unmasking for political purposes, which is akin to hacking. >> martha: do you think investigation is spending a lot of time on this part of the equation? >> andrew: no, but i think it will after we find out what the testimony is about. that's why i'm angry that the testimonies are secret. the american people are entitled
to know the obama administration did and there it entitled to know what congress knows and what they will do about it. when the government operates in secrecy like this, democracy dies. we are at their mercy rather than them being stepping to our will. >> martha: thank you. judge napolitano. articulating like crazy. good to see you. still had to make, and admitted terrorist who killed an american soldier, then ended up suing the country of canada and getting a huge payout courtesy of prime minister justin trudeau. the outrage that comes with it we will cover as well. we are watching the white house, we have our cameras trained on that because senators are in there discussing the health care bill. the president dining with them cordially, but of course trying to get them to move on this, no doubt. we are standing by as they come out. we will take it to the mics and let you know what they have to say. anthony scaramucci joins us to
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replace bill over the finish line. two republicans have come out against the bill, the president needs every single other g.o.p. lawmakers to be on board and there some discussion and concern about ron johnson this evening. earlier today the president said he remains optimistic that this can happen. >> the republican senators are great people, but they have a lot of different states. some states need this, some states need that. but we are getting it together and it's going to happen. >> martha: anthony scaramucci, former member of the president's transition team and senior president of the export-import bank now. good to have you both here with us tonight. anthony, you're sort of chuckling as you watch that. >> the hands moving, that's him. that's why it's going to get done, you see the way he talks and thinks, he recognizes there's a lot of bakeries from
the state but he knows the people are people and he will get them in the room and propose a deal, that's what he's great at. >> martha: the people that were in the room tonight are not necessarily the people he needs to be that worried about. if grandpa, susan collins, it looks like they are both gone, so maybe they are just crossed off the list. john cornyn was in that room, you've got john, richard shelby, jane langford if he is reaching out to these people to corral the rest of the troops? >> i think that's the strategy. those guys are obvious to leaders in the senate. they recognize that the promise was made to the voters in the constituents that they need to repeal and replace this bill. whatever you think of the bill, it's moving us in the right direction, you will have a freer market in health care which will lead to more innovation, which will lead to lower prices over the long haul. and it will be interesting to debate this but i think the current configuration of
obamacare is going to implode on itself, even rand paul is telling people that over the sunday show. it's got to get fixed. >> i think obamacare definitely has things that need to be fixed. i think democrats will be open to it. the idea that any bill right now is going to make its way through the senate and through the house seems foolish at this point because republicans are saying the same kind of problems that democrats had to deal with when he stomach when we put together a bill. a lot of groups you have to bring together and trying to bring together the liberal wings of your party and the conservative wings is always problematic. >> martha: so nothing can ever get done? >> i don't know if nothing can ever get done what i believe there are ways that are fixed, fixing this bill. i think if we talk about offering insurers to bring them back into the state market. i think there are plans that republicans have issued. >> martha: that's interesting because you look at this whole thing and basically we have no -- we have obamacare, an entitlement agency as part of
the federal government that ensures that one way or another, anthony, everybody is going to get some money towards their health insurance whether it comes to a tax credit. as rand paul is constantly talking about, we are bailing out the insurance companies. they had to bail out somebody, either the hospital and the doctor, now we are switching over to the insurance companies. that ship has sailed, it appear appears. >> i want to agree with michael on this couple things. it's very hard to put these together. 20 months to put the obamacare legislation together, if he could sit down and i predict crump will, it will be historic. your point about the insurance companies and hospitals, i will maintain this, until we disrupt that duopoly between the patient care and the insurance company. >> martha: that's not happening in this bill. >> but at least it's a step forward towards a freer market. we deregulated airlines and
telecommunications 30 years ago. you had s-curve transformation of lower prices and better efficiency. that has to happen here, the president knows that. we have to move towards a freer market standard, and this is a step in that direction. >> martha: the president today at the white house talking about basics, pushing for more things to be made in america. remember i think he was referring to the made in the usa, a little jingle that went along with it. can he achieve that and every week there's another week for the label. economy weight, and for structurally, agriculture weight, but they do seem to get lost in the shuffle. how is he pulling the focus back to his agenda? >> i think he's failed in the last couple weeks of being able to bring things back, and i will say that i hope we do get to a point where we make things in america, because that's what we need to do, we need to bring manufacturing back, that's not a democrat or republican thing, that's an american thing. but when you talk about the
president and messaging, he keeps distracting every morning when he gets on twitter and starts talking about russia and starts talking about the mainstream media and attacking those. that's not really the focus. it's hard to believe that i see it differently than michael. >> martha: he has to drive it -- mr. president, made in america today, right? and they wake up and they go "oh, my god." >> i want to talk about infrastructure, "made in america," but i think whatever the distractions are, it's a phenomenal undercurrent of progress that the president is making. >> martha: 36% is the approval rating. >> i think that's temporal temporary. >> people predicted he would lose. president is making progress incrementally moving policies. one of the great things we know about the presidency and its power, look at the manufacturing jobs in the last five or six months, 50,000 new manufacturing jobs. he's going to get there.
>> martha: we will see. thank you very much, good to see you tonight. tonight a story that you have to hear to believe. the dean of the university of southern california, usa medical school making over $1 million a year, although hosting drug and prostitute-filled parties on campus and there is a video of all of this. wild expose straight ahead. plus, terrorist omar confesses to killing army medic christopher speer, so why would he be getting a multimillion dollar settlement from the government of canada and the soldier on the right's family gets nothing. this story has divided canada and it has sparked outrage here at home. we will talk to a man who's trying to change that right after this. where to go,
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the convicted terrorist who killed this u.s. army medic, u.s. army sergeant first class christopher speer. trace gallagher takes us inside the shocking turn of events in our west coast newsroom tonight. >> omar khadr is a canadian citizen who was a child when with his father to afghanistan to train with al qaeda. then in 2002 just try it for 16th he tossed a hand grenade at u.s. soldiers in afghanistan killing sergeant first class christopher speer and blinding sergeant first class wayne morris. khadr was captured and sent to guantanamo bay where he confessed to the war crimes and was sentenced to 40 years in prison, but a plea deal reduced the sentence to eight years. omar khadr later claimed he was tortured by canadian forces. here is part of his interrogation video. watch.
>> in 2010 the canadian supreme court ruled the interrogation violated canadian standards. the court left the remedy up to then prime minister stephen harper, a conservative. he decided to bring omar khadr back to canada to serve the remainder of the sentence. khadr then sue the canadian government for $16 million, but sergeant morris, who was blinded by khadr, and the family of sergeant christopher speer had already sued and won a judgment against omar khadr for $134 million. then last week liberal canadian prime minister justin trudeau not only issued a former apology to omar khadr, he paid him a reported $8.5 million even though no court had ordered him to pay a dime. the canadian press wire service says prime minister trudeau knew there was an outstanding judgment against khadr in the u.s. so he rushed the payment
allowing khadr to dodge complying with u.s. court. today peter kent, a conservative member of the canadian parliament wrote in "the wall street journal" that the prime minister's action are not only an affront to his victims, but to our "u.s. allies and all men and women in uniform." >> martha: trace, thank you. joining me now brian lily, a rebel media radio host in canada and he's raising money for the children of sergeant first class christopher speer. he and his wife tabitha had two children and as you just hurt they have received no money despite the fact that the person who took their father's life has received an estimated $10.5 million. thank you for being here. is this a cautionary tale about what happens when someone is released from gitmo and goes back home to sort of be subjected to their own country's laws? >> this is the sort of thing that outrageous canadians coast-to-coast. i want your audience to realize
that. there's a poll showing the even the warm overwhelming majority of his liberal party voters don't like this. voters on the left don't like it, photos on the right, across the country, it never goes below 68% in opposition to this cash payment. people are furious at this and i would say that it's more a tale of what happens when you have a naive politician who was elected for his good looks, his hair and the socks that he talks about when he goes on with kelly and ryan than it is what happens with the justice system. as trace gallagher said in his introductory piece there, no court order this payment to happen. justin trudeau decided to make it happen. khadr sued for 20 million canadian, about 16 million u.s. before a word of testimony was heard, before a single piece of evidence was presented, he caved. he gave him the decision. >> martha: inexplicable. what can the u.s. government do to force him to use some of that
money at least, or all of it, according to the settlement that this family received in the united states, to pay them off? >> there is a way -- you can sue somebody in the united states if they live in canada or vice versa. you sue where you reside and want to get a judgment, if you get a judgment in your favor then you go to, in this case, the speer and morris families, they are now in a toronto courtroom in ontario trying to get that enforced but it takes time. they sought an injunction last week to freeze khadr's assets and the court said no, there's no reason to believe that we have to do this, there's a process in place, we will get to that. i think that's going to happen later this summer, that attempt to gain access to all his money will attempt to mark go through. in the meantime this could go anywhere. his father was one of the financiers of 9/11. >> martha: you talk about him at the right house dumb economic
white house and the relationship between canada and united states in one of our soldiers was killed by this young man who talked about pulling the pin out of the grenade and throwing at the skies, shocking. thank you for bringing some attention to it. >> i know that you are from the border area and i know that you understand there's a deeper relationship so we raised almost $200,000 and i would love your audience to consider donating at speerkids.com. almost $200,000, just know that the country doesn't back what trudeau is doing. >> martha: a good message and we hope people will do that. thank you so much, good to have her tonight tonight. still ahead, is a cure for cancer getting closer? up next, at least a girl who doctors say is now cured of leukemia after she received a groundbreaking treatment. she and her dad are here with us coming up. a college dean's secret double life filled with drugs and prostitutes. could we see, also in the next
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>> martha: short stories making news tonight, a secret life of drugs, parties and prostitutes. the stunning claims from a new report about former usc med school dean, dr. carmen. new videos show him partying in hotel rooms, taking ecstasy, all while part of the school. as dean he oversaw hundreds of medical students and professors. earned a cool $1 million a year in salary. it should be noted he still represents usc, doing so as recently as this past saturday. you never know. that was the response from caitlyn jenner when asked if she is running for congress. she recently sparked chatter about a career in politics saying that she may "look for a senatorial run." she is a lifelong republican who voted for president trump. finally, victory for a former columbia student who was accused of rape. the school has now settled. accused of assaulting a fellow
student emma, and investigation cleared him of wrongdoing and then after that in protest she carried a mattress around campus, a move that garnered national attention and praise for her. he said columbia failed to protect him from her harassment and defamation. the amount of the settlement is confidential. tonight's back story, a little girl who was dying of leukemia is no healthy and has no signs of the disease after a groundbreaking treatment that could change everything we know about the fight against cancer. in 2012, emily, just six years old at the time that battled an advanced form of leukemia. doctors told her family it was time to prepare for the worst. that in the lifesaving turn, the family took part in a cutting edge medical trial that uses a form of the hiv virus to reprogram the immune system to kill cancer cells.
it is astonishing. five years later she has been told and her dad has been told she has no cancer, it's gone, she's cured. she had her family are joining the fight for fda approval of t-cell immunotherapy, testifying before the agency to advocate for what they call a miracle cure. joining me know emily and her dad, welcome to both of you. wonderful to have both of you here. >> thank you. >> hello. >> martha: let me start with you, tom. why is t cell treatment so different from chemotherapy? wise it's it so revolutionary? >> they took her t cells out of her body and use the hiv in the lab only to train her immune system and then when they put them back in her, her cells were able to recognize and then kill her cancer. it's been amazing. let me stay with you for just a moment. i know some of that was very difficult. there's a lot of very dramatic side effects, how rough was that
how worried were you that you might have made the wrong decision at that point? >> we never thought we made the wrong decision because the alternative was to be home on hospice. it was brutal in the beginning she ended up in a coma for 14 days. very hard to watch. but the doctors worked around the clock and figured out a way to reverse the storm that was causing her to be so sick and when she woke up on her seventh birthday, came back to us and 23 days after her first dose of t cells she was cancer free and remains that way five years later. >> martha: emily, i know you testified before the panel. how are you feeling today and what do look forward to in your future, what you like doing these days and what you want to do in the future? >> right now i'm feeling pretty good and in the future i don't really know what i want to do yet. >> martha: what you like to do? i heard you like to play the
ukulele that you are quite the musician. >> i do. i've been taking piano lessons for a couple of years now and i just recently got my own ukulele and i'm planning on going to teach myself. >> martha: that's great. what you tell other kids were going through what you have gone through? how do you give them some hope? >> i always tell them to always keep fighting and never give up and always keep believing. >> martha: and that's what you do, right? i know your dad told you from day one this only happens to the strong kids, so you're going to be okay. we are so glad that you are, what a wonderful story and so much hope for so many other people who have cancer out there. tom and emily, thank you so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. >> martha: thank you guys. coming up next we will take a moment to honor the life and legacy of actor martin landau. stay tuned.
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world lost a great actor. martin landau was born in brooklyn but he made his name in hollywood. he started and scores of movie and television shows, winning enemies and an academy award for the movie "edward" in 1994. it was also nominated for crimes and misdemeanors in 1989. he played a successful ophthalmologist who wants to murder his mistress. >> a fool around with her for your pleasure and then when you think it's enough you want to sweeper under the rug. >> there's no other solution. i push one button and i can sleep again. >> could you sleep with that? is that who you are? >> i will not be destroyed by this neurotic woman. >> martha: if you haven't seen that i recommend it. martin landau was still acting and teaching at the actors studio in los angeles until recently. he died after a short illness, he was 89 years old.
the story continues and that is the story for tonight, but tomorrow we will be live in d.c., so we will see you there. tucker carlson is straight ahead right after this. have a good night. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." crime doesn't pay, that's what they tell you in school, though there is increasing evidence that maybe it does in fact pay. consider all the career politicians who somehow wind up rich in the end and then there's omar landau, if if he lived on your street he would be the richest guy in a neighborhood, he joined the telegrams during a firefight with u.s. soldiers in 2002 he threw killed a delta force medic named christopher speer. after he went to guantanamo bay he later pleaded guilty to murder there. lucky for khadr he was born a canadian citizen