if only he had killed u.s. soldiers instead, maybe he would be getting money from canada. bitter. that's it for us tonight. good night from washington. our friends at the "the five" in new york are ready to go. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> kimberly: hello, everyone, i'm kimberly guilfoyle along juan williams, dana perino, eric -- jesse watters, greg gutfeld, and dana perino. this is "the five." it is the hearing that everyone will be watching. oj simpson is up for parole this week. will one of america's most infamous prisoners be set free? it's a crime saga that dan -- that began more than 23 years ago.n 1994, los angeles police in hot pursuit of a fugitive from justice. nfl legend orenthal james simpson wanted for the murders of his ex-wife nicole brown and her friend ron goldman.
it led to the trial of the century. >> o.j. simpson in a knit cap from two blocks away iss still o.j. simpson. it's no disguise. it's no disguise. it makes no sense. it doesn't fit. if it doesn't fit, you must acquit. >> kimberly: and in 1995, an acquittal. despite powerful d.n.a. evidence that linked simpson directly to the crime. >> we, the jury in the above. entitled action, find the defendant orenthal james simpson not guilty of the crime of murder in violationha of penal code section 187 a. >> kimberly: but two years later in a civil trial, he t was found liable for the deaths and ordered to pay more than $33 million to the families of the victims. fast forward to 2007. o.j. arrested again. this time on armed robbery,00 kidnapping, and other charges involving two sports memorabilia agents at a las vegas hotel. he was convicted in that trial.
>> count 1, conspiracy to commit a crime. guilty. count 2, conspiracy to commit kidnapping, guilty. count 3, conspiracy to commit robbery, guilty.y. >> kimberly: simpson is now 70 years of age and up for parole after serving more than 8 years of a 33 year sentence. if granted release on thursday, he would walk out of prison on october 1st. the hearing will be televised much like the trial. all right, greg, get your thoughts. >> the reason why you had to do a two-minute recap is because most of the people don't remember this because they are so young.t i was listening to this and i'm like i know every part of this. of course it's going to behi televised because we can't get enough of scandal. t we cannot -- we have forgotten how to shame. so we all must go and suck all this in because we can't get enough of it. i don't understand parole.er it should work in reverse. you start at the sentence and good behavior prevents you from lengthening the sentence, not from shortening. i don't understand why
somehow a 33 year sentence goes to 8 years. i don't know. the one thing i learned from this sentence is that facts don't matter when you're a celebrity and you got a lot of money and have you a lot of lawyers. nobody else could have gotten off that way. we excuse the brutality of famous people. look at what's going on with r. kelly right now. no music sites talking about that.n and they knew about that forever. and with o.j, there was a lot of star power there. and that star power overpowered a lot of people. >> jesse: what did r. kelly do? >> greg: it's another day. >> jesse: i thought it was something new. i thought it was something new. >> greg: it's the same thing. >> kimberly: the old thing. not good. >> greg: i shouldn't have brought it up.p. >> kimberly: dana? >> dana: watching the video reminded me on the night he was acquitted, i was working as a waitress in denver, colorado, i had the bar area.
and no one left. and i think we stayed there -- everybody stayed until like 2:00 in the morning. i probably made the most tips i ever had in my life. as greg was saying, people were absolutely glued to the television. people couldn't get enough of it. >> greg: no social networks no internet. something we obsessed over constantly. >> dana: as much as i think he killed his wife and ron goldman, this particular crime is for the botched robbery in nevada. i guess i would say that the reason that you do parole on based on good behavior is so that you actually do behave in prison so that can you try to get out earlier.eh kimberly, i don't know if that's exactly correct. >> kimberly: yes. >> jesse: you're going to support that when you get locked up. >> greg: i know. i changed my mind. >> dana: i don't think it's preferential treatment for parole. in our justice system we have to look at this particular crime and if the prosecutor and the judge think he has met the standards that were set and he should get paroled then he is probably going to get paroled.er >> kimberly: jesse, do you recall this? how old were you? >> jesse: i was in high school when i was watching.
sorry, greg.g. i think the juice is going to get cut loose again because of the letter of the law. the first time he skated c because you could pay for the dream team. they chose the bad venue downtown l.a. and the prosecution booted it. they made him try on the glove. they had mark fuhrman the racist, up on the stand. they got the race card played on them and they didn't even realize it was happening. >> kimberly: that was the allegation against them.le >> jesse: that was the allegation against mark fuhrman. i thought it was on tape. maybe i'm wrong. the prosecutors threw the kitchen sink at him for the armed robbery. he wasn't holding the gun. he was involved in the armed robbery. it was a really, really rough sentence. they had in mind this guy skated on a doublele homicide. he has been behaving inou prison and no one is going to testify against him at the parole board hearing. so i think if they're fairol and they just look at this case, they will parole him. but if they say karma is going to play a role here, they're going to make him sit down. i think most americans want
to see o.j. stay in prison. i think there is a certain segment of the population that might break down among racial lines that wantop o.j. loose. and i understand that i'm going to shoot a watters world about this and we will see if that's the case or not. i there is also a sixth segment of the population that says i know he did it, but i still want to see o.j. out. i want to see o.j. in the tabloids. i want to see o.j. on tv because o.j. is a spectacle. t unfortunately, if he does get paroled, i think it's going to reopen a lot of racial wounds in this country, unfortunately. and i think o.j. being paroled is probably the only thing that could knock trump out of news cycle for a little while. but trump will probably tweet about it and then the media is going to go bonkers. >> kimberly: he is on parole for trying to get his sports memorabilia back. >> jesse: he claims.r >> kimberly: you can't use force to do that. you can't be kept in because you think he murdered his wife and ron goldman. so, this is an entirely different fact pattern.
and that's what they have to consider, not whether or not their personal beliefs as to whether or not he is guilty of the prior crime. >> juan: this is like a trip down memory lane, kimberly. on thursday, this is going to be on all of your television screens. every cable channel. i think the networks may get involved is going to cover this.nk they will cover it with the intensity you would think it was another trump event. that's the only thing in my lifetime that's comparable to this kind of electrifying personality. here is the criteria that the parole board will be looking at. they will consider his age and as kimberly told you, he is 70 years old. so he is getting up there. secondly. >> kimberly: medical u condition. >> juan: violent crime.. he didn't hold a gun but a violent crime being committed at the time. the third thing, his prior criminal history. if you listen to us talk about, this you would say oh well, of course, what happened to nicole. but the fact is o.j. simpson doesn't have a prior criminal history. the final fact that they
will consider and i find this amusing, his plan after his release. well, i mean, i guess. >> jesse: he is goingis to look for the real killers on the golf course. >> juan: you beat me to my -- >> jesse: i'm sorry. >> dana: i'm curious about kimberly's recollections. you were in california at the time, practicing law. and what do you remember? >> kimberly: i went right inth after the o.j. case to. the los angeles district attorney as a new prosecutor. i was in the class with the simpson intern. so they had been working on that case. and i was the only person hired that wasn't an intern. and only one that wasn't from the l.a. d.a.'s office. i came from san francisco. that was interesting. going downtown to try cases at the time and you would see, because of the backlash against the police and everything, you would see like "not guilty" up on the board. like any case where it had an officer as a main witness, narcotics case, et cetera, very difficult at the time.
than just the composition of the juries downtown, depending on the different areas.s. that was one of the things that the d.a.'s office was criticized about is that they didn't try the case where it happened in that d particular court. >> dana: why was that? >> kimberly: they made a decision to take it downtown to the criminal courts building. high security, et cetera. t they actually thought that the jurors down there would be, i think, more likely to convict him. and they grossly miscalculated that. because the civil case was done in the actual area by brentwood and santa monica i court. that's where they were able to get the civil, you know, verdict issued against him. so it was quite interesting. i think got an 82% chance in that system people with his similar background in terms of lack of priors, good conduct, nobody is opposing his parole, his age, his medical condition, et cetera. pretty much 82% i think he gets released. >> greg: what could he do? if you think about a lot of the characters in this drama
are still alive, whether you want to talk about marcia clark, judge ito, fuhrman, rosa lopez the maid. kato kaelyn. it's a pay per view reunion panel that could probably blow maywell mcgregor out of the water. >> jesse: i think fox should make some calls on that. >> greg: you had all of them up there and amazing thing to finally get to the truth and just get really ugly. >> jesse: maybe on the greg gutfeld show. >> greg: we don't have enough chairs. >> juan: will he have to pay the 33.5 million? he never paid the money. i think some of the nfl pension is protected. if you goes out and does something. he can't write another book that says what if i did it. >> dana: do you know, kimberly? >> kimberly: that's a judgment still in effect against him. yeah, if he makes some money, he joins like theec kardashian reality show, who
knows. and he makes any money from that, profits, of course they will try to seize and make sure that they get money put forth to their judgment. that's fair, right? >> juan: that would be good. >> kimberly: president trump is fired up again over his son and the media. greg is fired up too. that's next. you totanobody's hurt, new car. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™, you'd get your whole car back. i guess they don't want you driving around on three wheels. smart. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we'll replace the full value of your car.
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that's not the point.na it's simply to show you the chase is driven by politics and not reality it reveals the depth the left goes to win. example, let's say for the past year, jesse has been stuffing me in my locker outside the "the five." finally i punch him in the goofies. that's the "what about" argument. the response is valid after the abuse. that's why america yawns over russia. for them, a better explanation exists a nonpolitician donald trump jr. took a meeting unaware of the rules and forgot about it. look, russian meddling is a worry that we raise every single day on "the five." today's duplicity by hysterics who embrace the reds decades ago negates the outrage. you want collusion to matter? ask this: how do we stop it from happening again? that's constructive, which is why the dems and their media enablers hate it jesse, shouldn't the past matter?
the context? i the people chasing trump have done far worse? is that, as they say, a distraction, a diversification? >> jesse: the reason i stuffed you in the locker is you fit so neatly in that tiny little locker. >> greg: i like it. i sleep in there. >> jesse: democrats are trying to criminalize winning. the only thing trump is guilty of is beating hillary. they want to make beating hillary a crime. now, the reason you use the "what about them" scenario is because it's the only thing that really challenges the left's integrity. because when you say they are hypocritical andnd double standards, they're bias they can say no we're not. their integrity is all they have in order to sell their propaganda. that's all it is a mirage. they use it to masquerade the propaganda. without it, they are broke. i love playing the what about them game. i'm actually quite good at it. you stole some of the monologue. i would like to add a few.le they did use the irse.
as a weapon to persecute republicans in order to win re-election. they lied about the video in order to win re-election. they said you can keep your health care in order to win re-election. that's not even mentioning the fact that they let guns walk into mexico that killed a border patrol guard or let these people hack our military and then commute the guilty people.li here's the thing that don jr. didn't do. don jr. didn't destroy evidence.o. he didn't plead the fifth.id he didn't get anybody shot. he didn't break a law so far. he didn't embolden terrorists. so i would like to hear what the media has to say about those charges before they can start convicting him. >> greg: i think that's >> greg: i think that's a fair defense. juan, if you focus on futurere collusion, that keeps from talking about the past. is that why the democrats and the media can't move on, they can't say about what we should do next because then that forces them to let go of the story? do you follow me, juan? >> juan: i was trying to. >> greg: it's a brilliant comment i made. in fact, i will just skip you now. no, go ahead. >> juan: you mean because of
the things you mentioned in the past where you had fellow travelers mostly liberal democrats. >> greg: not that. they have to focus on the campaign rather than how to stop it in the future. okay, we agree, if republicans -- we agree,ic meddling is bad and meddling happened, let's work to prevent that in the future. they will go no, not so fast. we need to focus on the past on the campaign. >> juan: that's not true. the head of the committee wrote a letter to the republican cohort saying let's get together, let's create an alliance and stop this from happening in the future. guess what, the republicans said no. >> greg: really? i do not have that information with me. i shall look it up later.otin >> juan: somehow you justify or validate the idea of this russian probe. but, i mean, my feeling is, by the way, that guess what, trump jr. did obstruct because he didn't reveal his email contact.
kushner -- >> jesse: did he obstruct: justice or struck? >> juan: he was not forthcoming with the information. >> jesse: maybe he should have deleted all his emails.om >> kimberly: or bleach it. >> greg: that's a good point, kimberly. >> kimberly: thank you. >> greg: he didn't even bother to hide anything. that's the sign of it. >> juan: didn't know the "new york times" had it. >> greg: if he thought he had done something wrong, aka hillary, he would have destroyed them before that. >> kimberly: if he thoughtht he had done something nefarious. or he had done something he was criminally liable for. some kind of evidence of specific collusion, yeah, he would have destroyedid evidence.ee peachy keen. just go ahead and delete, you know, 30,000 emails. bleach bits, destroy devices,, do anything couldn't there is a total double standard. that's all fine. >> juan: you are running away. >> kimberly: i'm not running away.
i'm running right into it. it feels good. here's the thing. don jr. is like, here is my information. so what if the "new york times" had it or not? he had it available because he didn't delete it or try and t destroy it or try and get rid of and tamper with evidence, et cetera. so he is being transparent. he has answered questions. okay. he has produced the emails. and he said, you know, regrettably yes, he could have handled things a little bit differently. nevertheless, 20 minutes complete waste of time. i think the evidence is showing now that this was a total set up because you look at the woman that he met with and her connections and ties to the democratic party, so i mean, what else is there to say there? it's obvious what happened. >> greg: there is from dana. wrap it up. use your common sense and your wisdom. >> dana: put a bow on it. i don't actually buy the conspiracy theory that thehe democrats set it up for her to go. that might come out and then i would -- i don't think there is enough evidence there to say that. >> dana: russians were
trying to say knock knock is anybody there and they got somebody to say yeah, i'm there. i thought about this over the weekend why would i think that? every day in my life i have woken up thinking i'm in trouble with somebody. i wake up and i think even before i got out of bed, why is my dad mad at me? i haven't done anything yet. i have a nose for trouble. and i'm a little bit paranoid. and i also think that the russian government wants to provide information, ding ding ding, don't do that. >> jesse: i thought i had a nose for trouble. >> kimberly: you have a whole body for trouble. >> dana: can i sniff out trouble and stay out of it. >> jesse: let me know what you find. t >> dana: a big problem for hillary clinton for a long time always believed she was above the law. that's what made the right so mad. when you talk about, walked about this, it weakens the argument from the right. the right has taken on the tactic of the left. if that is worth it to win, maybe that's where the movement goes. although i just would like
to think we are better than that. >> jesse: there is lower the temperature on the mediaia side, so you are going to make this into watergate. what about watergate 1, 2, 3, 4.0 the last 8 years. >> dana: i think benghazi is a really good example. we were made fun of for talking about that. no one stood up for the video maker for first amendment rights to make a video. >> kimberly: we should start talking about it again. >> dana: i want to do it. can we get that b roll of the burning cars. >> greg: all right. the fastest seven coming up next. ♪ ♪ when you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the unpredictability of a flare may weigh on your mind. thinking about what to avoid, where to go, and how to work around your uc. that's how i thought it had to be. but then i talked to my doctor about humira, and learned humira can help get and keep uc under control...
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his first one didn't come pass. he is now out promoting an "inconvenient sequel" with some more fuzzy facts. >> we have never had a president who has deliberately made decisions, the effect of which is to tear down america's standing in the world, starting with his withdrawal from the paris agreement, the climatepa crisis is by far the most serious challenge we face. i went to miami on a sunny day, no rain, and i saw fish from the ocean swimming in the streets in miami beach just because it was a high tide. s >> jesse: gutfeld, why didn't gore take a picture of the fish swimming in the streets and: put it on the internet or did he invent it? >> greg: great thing about the sequel, the earth was supposed to be gone before the sequel came out. >> jesse: that's right. >> greg: biggest change is al gore. even vocal leaders admit exaggeration is harming their cause and bolstering skepticism. the more you exaggerate a cause, the more skepticism you create.
gore is becoming the albatross. the link between climate change and extreme weather is considered weak and very strongly in question if you look at all the data. >> jesse: dana perino? >> dana: well, president trump, one thing, maybe one of the only things that could reinvigorate al gore's career.nl we have seen more of al gore in the last six months than we have in 8 years. and that's because gore did not poke president obama at all when it came to climate change. he didn't say do more. like paris accords were basically totally voluntary so it really meant nothing. and so gore now has reclaim from obama the title of global climate change champion of the world. all he has to do is put out a press release and he will get on tv. >> jesse: juan? >> juan: i think al gore thought that the paris climate deal wasn't sufficient and they weren't doing enough.nd so he was critical of that. i don't know if he made it personal with obama in the way that i think people make it personal with trump because trump has been very clear he is not about that.
now, last week when he was over for bastille day in paris, apparently emmanuel macron the president was making an effort to try to get president trump to change his mind.o but i don't see any evidence of it so far. >> jesse: also not seeing any evidence of global warming. >> juan: hold on. don't forget. no evidence? what happened to that glacier the size of delaware that broke off. >> kimberly: he is making margaritas with it. bad news for al gore. he has been doing climate witchcraft nonsense for how lon long? we weren't supposed to be here to talk about this because mar-a-lago was supposed to be wiped out. like everything. but none of his predictions have come true. very sad for him. but, again, like dana said,or he is getting relevance now where is he talking and going crazy about the climate stuff because of president trump.e so actually the best thing to happen. >> jesse: that's right. all right.
on friday, we told you kid rock was considering a run for senate. he is apparently not the only celebrity with political ambitions. here is caitlin jenner. >> i have considered it. i like the political side of it. over the next six months or so, i got to find out where i can do a better job. can i do a better job from the outside, kind of working the perimeter of the political scene, being open to, you know, talk toce anybody? or are you better off from the inside? and we are in the process of determining that and, yeah, but i would look for,g a senatorial run. >> jesse: i think caitlin should announce on the greg gutfeld show. >> greg: i would love that. i already got her slogan, caitlin, now there is real change. >> jesse: yes.s >> greg: thing is, opportunity for member off lbgt to reframe identity politics as not aa rejection -- not as an
exaggeration of difference but as a celebration of greater community. this has always been the problem in leftist politics and activism is that we keep hammering the divisiveness and how different you are. and this is somebody who as a leader could say hey,. i'm a conservative. a member of the lbgt. i could like bring people together. so it would actually be refreshing. >> jesse: that would blow people's mind. does caitlin have a shot in california?y >> dana: sure, she does. it depends. the lbgt community has not necessarily embraced her with open arms. imagine if she didn't talklk about that at all. said, i'm going to give one interview about that. that's it. rest of the time, talking about taxes and the economy. she would actually probably win. >> jesse: juan? >> juan: i don't think she has any chance in california despite the fact it's liberal la la land. the reality is transgender and gay rights would be the basis. >> dana: that's not what she is saying. >> juan: i think she is saying. remember that young woman who
sang at the national amthem at the inaugural and she said her sister was someone -- she came and said oh, i'm so disappointed what president trump. i think caitlin jenner has that feeling... by the way, the rock says he wants to do politics, right? kid rock wants to do it. but you know what? caitlin jenner would be the best athlete of all. >> greg: two rocks and a kid. >> kimberly: i think caitlin should run. obviously very interested in politics. it would be smart of the republican party inn california to back her and see what happens with the democrats and the liberals t and the lbgtq community and see if they do the right thing and support her. >> jesse: finally a big night for game of thrones fan. season seven premiered to its biggest audience ever. more than 16 million. ♪ >> jesse: kg, did you watch?
>> kimberly: i was busy doing a far better show. >> jesse: okay. right. and juan, did you watch? >> juan: i was at dinnergh and all of a sudden, i realize my family is gone. oh, my gosh they thought it was at 10:00. it was at 9:00. that's why everybody went running out of the restaurant. >> jesse: are you a fan or not? t >> dana: the only thing iyo have seen about it is the ben shapiro spoof thing whena: he was on it. it was funny. >> jesse: you probably hate game of thrones. >> greg: i loved it. my favorite part was when carrir ran into mr. big outside of her apartment.er made it clear she doesn't want him in her life and has dinner with miranda. >> jesse: that was sex and the city, gutfeld. >> greg: no, that was game of thrones. >> jesse: effort to repeal obamacare back in a moment.
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>> dana: some breaking news tonight. another big setback for theea republican effort to repeal and replace obamacare. chief national correspondent ed henry has more on that breaking news tonight. ed?d >> well, dana, i just got off the phone with one ever the president wants top advisor who told me this is a blow to the president tonight. they are hopeful they can pick up the pieces either by getting the senate to work on healthcare again after the august recess or perhaps the president will have to go out to the americanan people and put pressure on senate republicans to come up with a new version after six or seven years of vowing that they would repeal and replace obamacare. tonight, for now at least, it is dead. this news coming because two more republican senators in the last few moments have come out and said they cannot support the current version of the bill.co that would be mike lee of utah as well as jerry more ran of kansas. now, you put them on top of the fact that you have had susan collins and rand paul already saying they will not vote for this current version of the bill.
you have senator john mccain who just had surgery who is out in arizona we all know is not going to be able to come back and vote on any version of this at least for a week or so. that means the republicanse are nowhere close to having at least 50 votes to then have vice president mike pence cast the 51st vote for a motion to proceed to c at least get to a floor debate on this. all this comes just a few hours after the presidentn made very positive optimistic remarks here at the white house insisting they were very close to a deal. that he still thought they were going to surprise people.ht what's interesting is this advisor i just spoke to to the president is telling me that the key move is what does the president do next?he does he go out on twitter tonight or tomorrow and start lashing out at senate republican leaders who i'm told in private is he very frustrated with, that they haven't been able to get this done. or do he find a way to move forward with them constructively to try to pick up the pieces, dana >> dana: thank you, ed. jesse, president trump and i were on the same page. optimism believing it was going to happen and you said no, it's not going to happen. turns out you might be right.
>> jesse: i hate tolf pat myself on the back, dana, i'm going to do it.ai i didn't have a lot of faith in the senate republicans because they didn't show any optimism. you have had, what, seven months to just come up with something. >> dana: seven years. >> jesse: what did they do the senate dining room. the food is not that great. the gym by the looks of them no one is really working out. they are not allowed to take lunches and dinner anymore because of lobbying rules. what do they do? they have one job, repeal and replace obamacare. and they can't do it. if you are working in the private sector, and have you had all this time to get something done, and then you come into a board meeting and you go, i got nothing. i mean, those people are out on the street.i >> dana: you might say you have nothing. kimberly, sometimes for the president or for any president, dealt a bad hand and you have to decide how to play it. what do you think will happen tomorrow? >> kimberly: i think it's really frustrating.t. i know the president is frustrated with the situation. a lot has been promised to him and not much delivered.
i think this is, you know, a failure on the part of the leadership, to be quite honest. because they needed to get this to stick and coalesce and get it done.. and i'm mostly sad for thee american people. you know. and there were promises made and they have not been delivered on. and they had, you know, all kinds of complaints, all along, about obamacare. night and day complaining and criticizing. and, yet, they can't come together to put something excellent forward to the american people. so that's the problem. >> dana: a lot of people will be living with uncertainty, greg. >> greg: i'm thinking about this and what everybody is saying. whenever we do a segment on healthcare, i get home and i'm sure it happens to you, you get all these emails from doctors and nurses. and i get like 20 emails from people telling me the solution. and it's really,pl really smart. very practical, and they always very specific good stuff. i keep sitting here going like, there is no landing page. there is no landing place
for these ideas. and i started thinking about stuff like waves which drivers use. they find the quickest route based on accumulation of user data. if go into wikipedia and plug in any word, anything shows up. if you putin jesse watters, wikipedia. don't do it. the point is -- >> kimberly: the controversy section. >> greg: technology isn't just a device..im it's the scope of it. it's the fact that everybody is contributing to it ande. that happens with wikipedia and waves and i get all these emails. there has got to be landing strip for ideas. we are trusting this huge problem to the government which is a dearth, it's a dearth of ideas. anyway, i'm not the only one who has thought of that.nl >> dana: juan is, it salvageable for the republicans? >> juan: no, and it hasn't been for a very long time. as you pointed out, dana, seven years. seven years. you can go into the wikipedia. you can go on the internet and call up the experts.o the experts will say oh, we're republicans.l we're heritage.
we're mitt romney in massachusetts and we want to keep the marketplace alive. we want the insurance companies involved and this is how we can do it, and they have put together this plan. and then obama emulates the plan and republicans playing politics saying we hate it, we hate it. guess what? now according to the polls more than 50% of americans think obamacare needs to stay in place. >> dana: that's because they don't understand what the alternative would be. >> juan: after seven years, understand it very well. >> dana: chance to regroup. even if they have to do it in september, that will be okay. president trump is making all kinds of changes to america's immigration policy.. and the results are miraculous.' according to the head of the border patrol union. that's next. ♪ i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do.
♪ >> juan: since president trump has taken office, there has been a large drop in the number of people trying to cross illegally into the u.s. due to his strict immigration policy. the head of the national border patrol union calls it , "nothing short of miraculous,". he is heaping praise on the president. >> there's a vibe. there's an energy in the
border patrol that's never been there before. in 20 years that i have been in the patrol, we haven't seen this type of energy. and we're excited because we signed up to do a job, and this president is allowing us to do that job. >> juan: so kimberly, here you have the head of the union praising president trump saying he has brought a new attitude to the border patrol. my question is, those guys are unleashed, but they don't have any concern about breaking up families. >> kimberly: oh, my gosh. i thought you were going to be legitimate. for one second. i thought you were going to be like this is great. things are working. >> jesse: they are not deporting people. >> kimberly: now he is saying that they are mean-spirited. >> juan: i think it's all part of the same thing. >> kimberly: you got to be fair. okay. the point of the matter is,s, they are saying that this is good. they are actually able to do their job and enforce the law. since when is that a bad thing? even now you have the unions saying they have seen improvement and president trump has done a good job
but yet, again, you are loathe to, in fact, acknowledge a positive accomplishment. why is that? >> juan: no, because, in fact, it is lower.ha but it was lower even when obama was in there they hitas all-time lows in terms of people crossing the southern border.he >> kimberly: now people don't come over because they are afraid of the wall. >> juan: in fact, president trump going to unleash additional visas for workers. what do you think of that? >> jesse: i hadn't heard that. interesting. high tech workers? seasonal. >> dana: ones that work at mar-a-lago.. >> dana: i'm for it. i'm for more legal immigration. >> jesse: i know under obama the border patrol is makingat sandwiches for illegals.
and under trump is delivering under traffickers. less smuggling, less cartel activity. t less illegal border crossing and less human traffickers. that's a good thing. on the border, americans on the border want that, juan. that's what i think is whatt it is about. >> juan: i don't think that but you think that. >> jesse: protecting the american people. >> kimberly: how long did it take to you come up with the knuckle sandwich thing? >> jesse: longer than it would have taken greg. [laughter] >> juan: also john kelly doesn't think they can defend the deferred programel for people who arrived at children. >> dana: you mean it will go away? >> juan: yes. >> dana: that will be debate that they should have with congress so whatever debate they decide will be more stable and certainty. supreme court decision because now they have a full nine. i understand the boost in morale. he said they take a job to fulfill a mission. in the last 8 years, that mission had been very muddied. now they feel like the president has their back. i.c.e. and the border. are political punching bags.
so some think are doing too much. some think too little. goes back and forth. they do a good job. i'm sure it is refreshing for them to feel like the president is supportive. >> juan: greg, will you give one tenth of your salary to build a wall? >> greg: yes. i didn't know anybody asked. [laughter] you know what, everybody in their lives have had a job that was soul destroying. it's always soul destroying because the boss didn't tell what you to do. usually when you were young had a boss show up and sit at your desk.ad i had a job like that. so when you get a new boss, who just says to you do your job, it is invigorating and it gives you purpose. and it goes back to whats i have said before about trump is that he may not need a wall. he is the wall. simply invoking these changes is enough to make a difference. and it is happening. in central america, the traffickers can no longer get customers. and the wall is not even there. >> kimberly: border patrol used to sue president obama and his administration. now the rule of law has
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character because he was always in disguise. mission impossible is great for an adolescent boy and gadgets and greg more and peter graves and it was -- disguises and trickery was enchanting. you always wanted to do that and was replaced by leonard nemoy but he originally turned down the role in star trek. >> that was fantastic. >> did you see this on friday? president bush and president clinton who spoke together at the bush library in dallas and without mentioning him by name they said humility is great and
the event was the 2017 graduation for the leadership scholars program and one of the graduates, no other than my son tony. here's a class photo. you can see mrs. laura bush and presidents clinton and bush and tony is in the center. here's a closer look on the right-hand side and on stage with the former presidents. >> he sent you lots of pictures. >> antonio, so proud of you, from dad. >> so handsome. amazing. >> there's a golden retriever named storm and is a hero for the rescue of a baby deer. he was with his owner when he jumped into long island sound and rescued it and nudged it to make sure it was alive. the deer ran back in the water again and was rescued by the rescue and the fawn is recovering from ticks and an eye injury in an animal shelter. >> another dog video.
>> so yesterday i had the pleasure of being on my friend's show the nef revolution, steve hilton and the food court. take a look. >> what is the verdict, kimberly? >> i give it a 10 and so does the russian judge. >> very juicy, steve. i suggest you wear a bib of sorts. >> it was so delicious. it's called the impossible burger and tastes like meat and looks like meat but it's made of other things and we think we have to do a little taste test here to see if the crew can decide and figure it out. >> well, my sister, younger was just appointed a member of the marshall selection committee and was a marshall scholar and they're named after george marshall former secretary much state and only 40 americans each
year are allowed to be a marshall scholar and get to study at oxford and get fancy degrees and i got to visit here. we're very proud of her. >> okay. check your dvrs for hannity, next. >> sean: this is a fox news alert. welcome to "hannity" a major alert to the massive double standard on election interfierce and we'll have more and the political left are waking up to what we have been telling you for month. we're forcing them to cover stories they've been ignoring. that's tonight's very important opening monologue. >> sean: if >> sean: if you watch the program you know the establishment media are group-think and think alike every day and we think the truth is important and you,