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oh fox news. big board on wall street, the final bell is ringing, the nasdaq off, the dow off, about the just a little bit. still very near all-time highs. all over wall street. the best in business, now, with neil. >> mr. simpson, i do vote to grant parole. that will conclude this hearing. >> thank you! >> neil: o.j. simpson is going to be a free man some time in october. we have the latest developments with claudia in nevada. >> hi, neil. looking relaxed, a bit slimmer and very self assured, o.y. simpson told the parole board he has served his time and should be released. when the board agreed as you just saw, he hunched over with release and said "thank you." during the hour-plus hearing in nevada, simpson said he shuttered himself behind bars
and helped other prisoners solve con flicks through words not his fists. he expresented remorse. >> i would have made a better judgment back then, none of this would have happened. i take full responsibility. >> simpson got a chance to explain what happened the night of that botched robbery at a las vegas hotel in 200. . he said he was pressured to hire security guards, to help him retrieve his property. he said he didn't know that they were armed and didn't know until much later they brandished their weapons. he says he understands how that traumatized the memorabilia dealers. he see he made peace with them. one of his victims, bruce frolong spoke on simpson's behalf, saying simpson was the victim of a setup. another speaker, arnelle simpson, fought back tears describing her fathers her best friend and her rock. her testimony is important to show that simpson has family supporting him on the outside.
only mention of the murders of nicole brown and ron goldman in los angeles one of the commissioners stated that cased had nothing to do with this one and would not be considered here. now that the parole board has granted simpson's release, he is expected to walk out of lovelock prison on or about october 1. he better stay out of trouble, they will be watching him like a hawk. >> neil: thank you very, very much claudia. so much attention on what his financial opportunities will be as a 70-year-old man. great deal of interest on the part of the media. whether that turns into even money-making ventures for him anyone's guess. remember the money he owes through that civil trial to the goldman family and others. fox news anchor, former defense attorney gregg jarrett and legal analyst mercedes. let's discuss what he does, assuming he stays out of trouble, how he financially continues supporting himself.
and then making good on that civil settlement. >> it's going to be a problem for him to be employed considering there's a lot of public outcry he's getting released. there will be challenges for him. talk as to whether he will be allowed back in florida. that will be another issue that's going to be determined. does he have this financial support once he gets resettled. he's. 9 years old, about to turn -- 69 years old, about to turn 70, not sure if he'll seek employment. he has to prove hes has the financial support, emotional support, family support, community support to re-establish himself in florida. there's some hurdles he will have to make. then you think about the son of sam laws around the country, that doesn't allow individuals convicted of crimes to profit from them. if he's going to go out and do a tell-all book based on this conviction, it's probably going to be something that will be barred or any proceeds from it go to fund the judgment.
>> neil: gregg, it seemed like the parole officers were explaining that they were focused on just what he had done in prison, for this burglary effort, none of the past before, they couldn't entertain that, many ar dpud that he was in prison as long as he was because -- who he was and what happened there. but how much of that do you think really did come into play? >> well, i mean, look, he got paroled. i don't think they considered the fact that a civil jury unanimously found in 1997 that hebrew tally and viciously killed nicole brown simpson and ronald goldman. they could have considered that. all you have to do is go to the website for the parole board and it states under aggravateing circumstances, i'm looking at it here, any other information that the inwitt is a risk -- inmate is a risk to public safety. they had latitude and discretion to take judicial notice of the jury's decision in 1997, that
this guy is a killer and necessity chose not to. they also ignored his prior conviction in 1989 of pru tally beating his -- brutally beating his wife. you can see the pictures online. black and blue and her face swollen, so battered, you can almost not even recognize her. that's a prior conviction. and they could have considered that. and they chose not to. >> neil: i know you're a great lawyer and all, but obviously, o.j. simpson is a familiar face, there was a time before the murders that he was a multimillion dollar a year actor, entertainer, just media figure. can he get back to that, is there any -- anything that you see here that shows he can build a new career, new life, at 70, whatever he is. >> i don't think so. frankly, neil, i think there's such a public outcry against him
so many people when you poll them. and obviously, what greg said, 1997 civil implication he was involved in these murders and was the killer involved in those murders, he was civilly tried and found responsible for those deaths. it's going to be difficult for him to resurrect his career. we remember what an amazing actor he was, "naked gun," amazing envelope player, all of those -- amazing nfl player, it's long gone. >> neil: there is a pressure with media notoriety, having a familiar face, he kept go anywhere without drawing atechx. that could be good and bad attention. i'm wondering given the tight provisos assigned to his parole, whether that could complicate things. >> fred goldman said after the acquittal in 1995 that o.j. simpson will some day end up behind bars. he was right. i wonder if fred goldman is thinking the same thing. o.j. simpson has a tremendous,
volatile temper, you can hear it in the audiotape inside that las vegas hotel room during the armed robbery and kidnapping. he is in a rage ordering the group what to do. he's angry. you know, no one leaves this room. then you look at the pictures of nicole brown simpson, horribly beaten. you consider the road rage incident in florida which he skated thanks to a good lawyer. the girlfriend who was living with him also called police siing he was abusing her. this is a man who has a volatile temper. can he behave himself now? one wonders. >> neil: thank you both very, very much. you might have heard a little bit back and forth about this o.j. simpson thing. he is free and will be officially out in october. we thought we'd pass along and give you a little bit of financial closer to that as well. for whatever we can glean from that. meantime, this is also not only the anniversary of the 48th anniversary of man landing on
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stunningly elected to the highest office in the land. fox business network has been crunching the numbers, they are pretty impressive numbers. >> they are. the stock market, neil, the topic the president loves to talk about, for good reason. he's tweeted about the dow a number of times. if you look at it, it's up about 10% give or take since january 20. and the dow is up about 18% if you go back to election day. a broader look at things that shows the s and b up about 9%. the nasdaq up more than 15%. the tech companies at the nasdaq that lead the way. the information technology companies, boy, 19%, those are the best performing group of stocks. healthcare materials also performed well in this administration. the thing is, to your point, many of these stocks ran up right after election day. the optimism was the order managers would be business friendly. the gains have continued, based not so much lately on politics but on earnings.
if that is to continue even more from here, the white house budget director speaking today, knows economic growth needs to pick up. >> i talked about the importance of getting back to 3% growth. i talked about the historical importance of that, historical achievebilt of that, how if you're 30 years old, you never had a job during your adult lifetime in a healthy american lifetime. you think 1.9, 2.5% growth is typical. it doesn't have to be. >> the key to making it happen might be tax reform. many market watchers, neil, have been watching this closely and tell us the rally we've been talking about, it may be in jeopardy unless congress can pass meaningful tax reform. that's negligent. so far so good for the, under president trump. >> neil: don't hold your breath. connor mcshane. as you heard by now, jeff sessions was hung out to dry by
the president of the united states a "new york times" interview. without necessarily being fired. i want to play two things back-to-back for you. one is the kwhous trying to clarify -- white house trying to clarify what is the president's disparaging remarks on his attorney general, very loyal attorney general at that, for specific reason here. then jeff sessions trying to clarify what they tried to clarify. >> the president said, as the president said yesterday, he was disappointed in the attorney general sessions' decision to recuse himself. but clearly he has confidence in him or he would not be the attorney general. >> i have the honor of serving as attorney general. it's something that goes beyond any thought i would have ever had for myself. we love this job. we love this department. and i plan to continue to do so as long as that is appropriate. >> neil: whatever your views on
the subject, normally this is done behind the scenes, if presidents have trouble with their cabinet secretaries it's discussed privately, they resign, what have you. this was an attorney general that was ripped in the press by the. the united states to the "new york times." a tape of that interview you are familiar with, has been playing over and over again today. michael goodwin says this is not just about disparaging a loyal official but this whole issue of whether jeff sessions should have recused himself in the first place might have avoided everything that we're seeing right now. i free with that, michael. here's what i don't, why hang a guy out to dry like this? >> all this time later we know the president's thoughts on this, why do that? >> well, i think the president clearly has been frustrated over the recusal and the fact that sessions did not tell him that he intended to recuse himself. sessions said he knew from day one that he would have to recuse
himself on anything having to do with the campaign. >> neil: no doubt, fire him a long time ago. this festering, i have, you know, relatives who pull this kind of stuff. get over it. >> what has changed in the last month on you or so, dnld trump jr. and jared kushner, the president's son and son-in-law, the father of his grandchildren, the fathers of his grandchildren, are all now being dragged into the russia investigation. they're both going to have to testify along with paul manafort before congress. >> neil:ing he brings that back to sessions? >> absolutely. >> neil: fire sessions, i'm back to firing sessions. >> that was my advice a month ago. give him, you know, you could give him a nice job in the wlous. you don't have to drag him through the mud. this looks as though it's an attempt to get sessions to quit because the president dark dak. >> neil: why do it this way? i know the president demands loyalty of others, that's fair enough. it doesn't seem to work in
reverse f i'm working in that cabinet, and i'm in the house or the senate, working hard to get something going on either healthcare or taxes, i might think, boy, he's going to turn on me. am i overanalyzing this? >> no, look, that's one way to read it. others may see it that way. but my sense is that they've been talking about this for a while. and i think perhaps sessions is not taking the hint that the president would like him to resign. but, look, the significance, neil, is that there's nobody in the justice department overseeing mueller. even rod rosenstein the deputy, acting attorney general who appointed mueller may have to recuse himself because he is the witness. his memo you recalling the firing of james comey, is likely to be part of the investigation. so the whole idea that the president of the united states does not have an attorney general and maybe not even a deputy attorney general
overseeing an investigation that is unchecked, unsupervised, and unlimited. >> neil: and by the way, widening out. we're just finding out the president said better not look into my financial dealings. the bloomberg report, says that mueller is doing just that. this is festering. again, if you don't like the job he's doing or saying he started it all, stringing him along may not be the answer. unless you feel so strongly, say you're out of here. >> he sers at the president's will, he could say, jeff, this is -- >> neil: why didn't session does that? he had a chance, avoided mentioning the president's name. but he didn't resign. i half expected he would do that. >> he left the door open when he said as long as it's appropriate. i think sessions, is not innocent in this. he said, in testimony in june, that he knew from day one he would have to recuse himself from anything having to do with the campaign. why did he take the job? i think that is a fair question
for him. yes, the president should have known, too, and not offering him the job. what the president said in the "time" interview, why didn't he tell me. i think the president is right. >> neil: time to do that was a while ago. we might respectfully disagree on this. but you have the pulitzer prize, i don't. always good to see you. >> my pleasure. >> neil: nancy pelosi stirring up a new debate essentially saying that this latest republican budget, $300 trillion-plus, is stirring up violence. it is stirring up violence. we'll explain. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me, and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a medication... ...this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain... ...and protect my joints from further damage. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira works by targeting and helping to... ...block a specific source... ...of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms.
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instead they have a budget that stirs it up. >> neil: really? i don't know, those remarks, talking sheer numbers which is impossible, because this is the most money the federal government has committed in any budget, north of $4 trillion. but we have "u.s. news and world report" joining us, asset management scott martin. scott, your thoughts on what she seems to be saying there, because republicans are busy hacking things, and cutting budgets, that it's going to breed trouble. what do you think? >> well, neil, these outbursts from nancy pelosi these days are almost a daily occurrence. whether it's saying hundreds of thousands are going to die because of the healthcare bill passage. or all of the other amazing things that come out of her mouth lately. the scary part is, it's the power of suggestion. it's the things she's telling
the american people, very histrionic are damaging, misleading, incite things like violence in my opinion. being in a leadership position that she amazingly still is in, is a scary thought to be communicating like this, and telling the american people, instead she should be rallying her leaders, rallying her compatriots to say let's work with the trump administration and figure out a way to get policies and procedures in washington to finally work for all americans not just ones in her party she's concerned about. >> neil: if i'm a republican i'm trying to entertain the overtures on the part of democrats to work with them on stuff, remarks like that it's inciting violence and killing people, why the hell would i want it? >> when you're a leader, i was on a much smaller scale in the ohio senate for a number of years, it matters. you set the tone for your caucus. i don't think that it is productive for leader pelosi to utilize incendiary language.
members of the caucus are probably trying to work with other members across the aisle trying to find a level of consensus. if i were here, i would be really, you know, drilling down on some of the details of the budget, that the congressional budget office really went to town on as far as the potential impact and how it's not necessarily going to create economic growth. i can go on a laundry list of programs that would be touched to community development block grants to school lunches that impact vulnerable communities and the potential for economic growth in struggling areas like ohio and rural america. talk about those things. get the american people on your side to gain momentum for your agenda. rather than trying to -- >> neil: that is a fair way to do it, we can disagree on the spending priorities. you always lose things when you talk about, you know, kill people, or it's going to lead to violence. >> i agree. >> neil: and most of it, not you, senator, but a lot of the violence has been inspired, we
certainly see on the left far more than the right here. berkeley and everything else. leaving that aside, ashleigh, what i wonder about, if this is the way the leaders are going to speak, there isn't going to be bipartisan anything. republicans, it could explain why they're cobbling together yet general another healthcare rework, hoping, praying maybe throwing something up in the air thinking something is connecting, on healthcare, to set the stage, that they can't work with the democrats. what do you think? >> i think there's a lot of things at play. there is a poll released yesterday that showed over 70% of americans want republicans to work with democrats on the healthcare bill. because they're seeing such stagnation. it's going nowhere. in these teams where -- times where there's hyper partisan nature in american politics, a lack of leadership on the democratic side which means there's no consistent messaging, allows for outbursts like this from speaker -- leader pelosi
who comes out and says these things, that does nothing to help the american people, does nothing to help anything legislatively get passed. what we need to recognize, that, yes, while there may be disafree with policy and may be disagree with who is president of the united states, at the same time, things need to get accomplished. it will only benefit the american people if everybody comes together from both sides of the political spectrum. >> neil: don't hold your breath. i'd love to be wrong. >> i hope you're wrong. >> neil: i'm looking at the market and today's, you know, slight selloff notwithstanding, markets are up appreciably on the six-month anniversary of the trump presidency even more since he was elected. largely, i would imagine, on the belief they'll get something they like. like tax cuts. i don't know about the healthcare thing. they seem to have faced they get past this, do you? >> i'm getting more and more worried by the hour, frankly, it's turning me gray.
what's interesting, neil, thank goodness the s&p 500 companition, two of them out with earningsments ago, microsoft, thank goodness the companies are so well run and earnings growth is so powerful they are able to overcome the stymieing the democrats are doing in congress. that puts the large agenda at risk, which is what you said, what the s&p 500, the stock market, 401-k is hinging on here. the longer they take to fight it out, the worrisome more it gets for america. >> neil: cutting short a little bit to pass on breaking news concerning paul ryan speaker of the house, saying the stop white house officials and republican leaders, i'm sure including himself, nearing a consensus on some of these tax reform issues. he said in the fall they hope to hammer out an accord on taxes. whether he was talking generically about corporate taxes seems to be the push, or individual rates as well which the hos ways and means chief was
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>> neil: apparently news that president trump has called senator john mccain, who has been diagnosed with pretty vier u lent brain tumor, we have fox news on that. blake? >> i was speaking with the senior white house official about that phone call. unclear whether or not this was just pleasantries and well-wishes or if there was anything else beyond that. in any event, senator john mccain was in good spirits today and in true mccain fashion he needled his colleagues a bit when he gave a status about his health. mccain taking to twitter earlier this morning, quote the following. quote, i greatly appreciate the outpouring of support. unfortunately for my sparring partners in congress i will be back soon. stand by. the 80-year-old war hero and former presidential candidate who has been in the senate since 1987 is currently back home in arizona recovering from a surgery last week that removed a blood clot above his left eye. doctors announced last night the
pathology revealed brain cancer. it appears along with the phone call, mccain has been politically active. lindsay gray mam ham said he spoke several times with mccain, and his office quoted on sir va policy. senator mike lee was one of the many to acknowledge that going forward, mccain's absence from the senate narrows the path for republicans as it relates to healthcare reform. >> as close as both margins are, it's hard to imagine moving on to this without john mccain present. i'm unfortunately unaware of what his condition entails, what that means for how soon he might be able to travel back to washington. >> 1/2 in a statement last night mccain's office did not say when he might be able to return to washington. to take part in the united states senate. back to you. >> neil: hopefully soon. blake, thank you.
the read from all of this, ohio republican senator rob portman. good to have you. >> good to be on. >> neil: we can talk about when hopefully soon the senator john mccain gets back. bottom line, it's a tough fight here. >> it's a tough fight. our hearts go out to him and cindy. but nobody tougher, neil, as you know, you've known him a long time, he's been on your program a lot. i love the fact he said my partners are going to have my back. he's a fighter, he's a fighter. i sent a message to him, i said captain mccain, we need you back in the fight. i believe he is coming back. and i believe that he's going to surprise a lot of people who are saying it's going to take a while. he may be back soon. >> neil: interesting, i know at times like these, it's natural for people to sort of try to be above politics here and wish him well, bipartisan way. it's sad that it takes something like this to bring things out in
congress. he's getting universal praise from bill and hillary clinton, barack obama, even president trump were whom he has had an acrimonious relationship. i know i'm going off-topic here, why it takes something like that to bring out the better nature of the political powers that be. >> yeah. it's totally true. i like going on your program, neil, you and i can disagree, you can disagree with guests, do it in a respectful way. you mention our better nature. certainly lincoln had a lot of enemies politically but he talked about the better angels of our nature. the better part of us talks about somebody with respect, even if we disagree with them. that's what is missing sometimes in politics. it's very personal. sometimes, not about listening, it's about talking. so hopefully, whether it's the shooting that occurred a few
weeks ago everybody came together, and you know sort of held up the institution of congress and public service and said, this shall not happen again and must not happen again, need to work together. hopefully we'll get back to that. we have big problems. among them are tax reform. >> neil: what do you make on problems on tax reform? it's interesting that we're hearing word that speaker ryan says that he and other leaders, i assume yourself included, sir, are very close, working in concert with a consistent draft, white house officials, on tax policy. i guess the goal, but every time we've gotten together, the deadline keeps getting pushed back. sounds like one of my diets. i wonder, whether this one will be any more successful. steer me to the process, how it's looking to you. >> i met with paul yesterday. and speaker ryan was chairman of the ways and means committee, has a passion for tax reform. he wants to get it done. lots of meetings.
we have had meetings on our side for the past several years, get down to it. i think we are a lot closer on this than healthcare as an example. republicans pretty much agree we ought to have lower tax rate, have tax relief, tax cuts, particularly middle class families, and do something so sensible on the international side, it's crazy, losing jobs. >> neil: you mention healthcare at the outset, the president did a 180, as you know, senator saying it first earlier in the week, let obamacare implode, i'm par frais phrasing here, hang it on the democrats and they'll come crawling back. the next day revisits it, telling republican senators, look, we have to do something here. why do they go back when it looks like they're not making any progress. go right on to the tax reform. >> i think infrastructure would have been a good thing to get done. we're in haushg reform. and we have a say on it. i'm one of those people feels we
ought to get to a solution. >> neil: do you support a repeal vote right now? a lot of your colleagues are sure that would success steed. >> certainly it wouldn't. more importantly, i don't think it's the right way to go. don't throw in the towel, get the reforms that we republicans have been talking about for years giving the states more flexibility, giving the insurance companies the ability to sell plans people want to have. no of that happens were repeal. all it does is kick the can down the road. >> neil: you weren't in the camp that said something was better than nothing, having something that was a little less, big government, than obamacare the way it's presently stipulated. would have been better. >> get rid of the taxes. get rid of the stuff that's causing these rates to go up so dramatically in my own state, 19 counties, with zero insurance companies in the individual market. another 27 with only one insurer. that's no competition. if you just do repeal all of the experts tell me a lot more uncertainty and plans are going to leave and costs are going to
go up more. let's bite the bullet and could. this -- and do this. i spoke to vice president mike pence on the phone about this, had a meeting late last night, lunch today, it's going to be tough to get there, we come from different states and different perspectives. but we have a responsibility to get to a conclusion on this and come up with a solution not just kick the can down the road. that's my preference, what the president says he wants, he said it three times in our meeting yesterday. he said different things as you say, but right now he's focused on how do you actually get a replacement that makes sense. >> neil: i don't know if he's focused on that. that stuff over jeff sessions does he waste his time going into these tangents? >> well, he speaks his mind and tweets his mind. that's something that other himself haven't done at least on twitter platform. >> neil: it's different. >> but we have big issues to address. going back to the point you made
about figuring out how to find common ground and come together. taxes, regulations, healthcare, certainly what's going on globe alley right now. we have -- globally. we have reasons to work together to solve these problems. and i hope we can get this healthcare thing resolved in the next couple of weeks. i hope we stay into the august break in order to do that. let's not go home, stay here and get it done. >> neil: i think both sides agree you are one of the calming influences there, hope it prevails. good seeing you senator. >> thanks, neil. >> neil: remember when i called out the mainstream media on the g20 dinner chat, the president had with president putin, as if something was hidden from the president. look at that table. it's the hogwart's table. try to keep a secret at that table. whoooo.
pow-wow, the whole world was in on it. every major world leader played a part including their spouses. clever. talk about clever by half, those g20 guys, icing us media guys in full view of, i don't know, the world! jeez, i mean, got20, get it? none other than angela merkel, inviting the whole bunch. what is german for "fake you out fake news." how dare they meet and talk, benter to sit and not say a word at all. how dare the american news media not be given a heads-up, when it seems that every other country's media knew what was going down. much ado about something there, i thought, was nothing. we got jessica joining us, angela and gene a. gene a, my basic point, find time to argue points that are legitimate, the way the president handled jeff sessions thing is fair ground. but this thing, no.
what do you think? >> i just cannot believe that the media still has not caught on to the fact that their fak particular is not working. the american public sees this as media malpractice, neil. but the thing they don't realize is that the american public perceives this as an even bigger reason to dig in and support this president. they see the progress he's making. that's what they pay attention to not the ram nling of the media. >> gina you articulate what i think, it's, i'm far from apoll jirnt of the president. go ahead. i just thing on this particular case, this issue, it's stupid. stupid. >> when the story first came out, when there aren't the details of melania sitting next to vladimir putin, and in full view of everyone. >> >> neil: but you see how they can't keep a secret at that table. >> i would rather discuss ending
the cia covert program to arm syrian rebels, something that vladimir putin would want, the investigation is now moving on to trump's business dealings in new york, playing with that and bringing it around to why maybe he was fired. i'd rather have that conversation. >> neil: and that's what i'm saying, a lot of people think you're just an apologist for donald trump. i barely like myself, and he flips. but go after him things that matter. >> there are so many that matter. >> neil: and the issues don't matter to me. and they make the left, not jessica, they make the left look silly. >> well, absolutely they make the left look silly. if donald trump was trying to keep a secret he's probably not doing very well if he said it at the giant hog wart's table. if you want to talk about the program to arm the syrian rebels putin wanted it ended and he was right. the syrian rebels are, you might
know them by their stage name, al qaeda, in syria. a broken clock is right twice a day. i think trump and putin got something meaningful out of the conference. >> neil: that we don't know. but i'm hazarding a guess the fact they met indicates that they were hardly doing it in secret. gina i want to switch to developments today that i do have a problem with, that is the president still bemoaning jeff sessions and kind of humiliating the guy. if you're tired of the guy and festering over the recusal, fire him. don't string it out. he was a loyal lt. you're sending a signal to your cabinet, loyalty apparently doesn't work both ways. what do you think? >> well, i don't know. i see the president as a loyal person, at least in the dealings that i -- >> neil: no way, no way, no way. >> we can't know all of the inner workings going on behind the scenes. >> neil: i just saw what he did here. he threw the guy under the bus.
maybe perfectly valid reasons. that's something i don't like. >> but i don't think we've seen the end of this story yet. i think that the american public, look, we love jeff sessions. he is a conservative's conservative. and i would just bet, neil, a lot of times when i can't understand what's going on within the administration, and in a few days i start to understand it and it starts to make sense. >> neil: i don't know, angela, i thought it was poorly handled. you think it was poorly handled as a conservative? >> i think it was. jeff sessions made mistake in expanding civil assets for ty tur, violates due process. talk about the media, they want to see donald trump go to war against jeff sessions, go to war against vladimir putin. >> neil: he's not helping make the case the other way. >> they will not be satisfied until it is a tanya harding-nancy kerrigan situation. >> neil: good sports, all. but i generally find it a good day when both sides are furious at me. we will have more after this. it only takes a second for an everyday item
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>> neil: you know, fred barnes is a brilliant writer. when he said earlier in the week in a great comment, talked about republicans who are nitpicking over details, that something essentially is better than nothing, that by not moving when they could have moved on a fix and replacement for obamacare what they ended up leaving in place was obamacare. only he said it far better than i ever could. fred, good to have you. >> good, you said it pretty well yourself. >> neil: what happens now? they're revisiting this again, what happens now? >> i don't think there's any future in this congress, anyway, for getting rid of obamacare. i know mitch mcconnell wants to try everything. he's a guy that always has a plan b and a plan c. looks like he'll keep it up.
he wants to try everything. i just think it's too late. the party has surrendered their chance. >> neil: it reveals serious vision you were on to long before most. one has implications for tax cuts. i think that they're far from a sure deal right now. >> i think, yeah, but they're in better shape. rob portman said, this i agree with him, that they're in better shape on tax reform. and the reason is, the white house officials, whether it's gary cone and treasury secretary steve manuchin and the chair men in congress, paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, the goal is to come up with one bill they agree on. >> neil: they're not all together whether the tax cuts are significant size for everybody, some talking about whether rich guys like you, fred, get 'em. where is this going, what are we going to see? >> i think they will agree on something they just haven't done it yet.
>> neil: okay. >> what you mention, it's not small details. because the tax cut is originally, envisioned, was not one that was going to be heavily focused on the middle class. there will be a tilt in that direction. i expect they'll get there. >> neil: i'm switching like a crazy professor, the president and the comments about jeff sessions, jeff sessions sort of odd press statement today, didn't quote the president, still says i want to stick on the job. what do you make of the whole thing? >> my guess is that he doesn't want to fire jeff sessions, but he wouldn't mind if jeff sessions resigned. it's just a peculiar way of dealing with somebody in your cabinet. not just a stranger, some of the people he named were strangers, he's known jeff sessions for a while. remember when jeff sessions showed up early on. >> neil: very early. >> in the campaign, showed up at a huge rally for trump in mobile, alabama. >> neil: i think it's a hell of
a way to treat a friend. whatever you argue about sessions screwing up with the recusal, he's not let go of that, it still chafes, i understand. but man oh man. that's not a way to, you know, instill loyalty. >> i agree. trump, is a very hard man to work for. i think the only people who he's afraid of are the generals. you know, general john kelly, homeland security, and of course mattis at defense. >> neil: everyone is afraid of maddog. >> they ought to be afraid of john kelly. trump rarely mentions him. but he's the most impressive member of the trump cabinet. >> neil: thanks, fred, for going through so much in such a short time, weekly standard executive. we will have more after this. remember our special night? abdominal pain... ...and diarrhea. but it's my anniversary. aw. sorry. we've got other plans. your recurring, unpredictable abdominal pain and diarrhea... ...may be irritable bowel syndrome with diarrhea,
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