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stick around for 4:10 p.m., where sean hannity will have an interview with sean spicer and reince priebus. >> martha: breaking tonight. the president pushes back against the advice of some of his top advisors. means the changes in the west wing may be just beginning. the big question is ultimately what will it mean for the country. i martha maccallum. that is our story tonight. we are learning some brand-new information about this plan. what is likely to happen next? the whole thing started late afternoon with a trompe l'oeil list, someone he wanted involved, moving out to center stage. >> sarah huckabee sanders will be the prosecutor. sean is a military serviceman, he has a great family.
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he's done an amazing job. this is a difficult situation to be in. i applaud his efforts here and i love the guy, and i wish him well. reince priebus and i have been personal friends for six years. we are little bit like brothers, we were off each other up once in a while. that's totally normal for brothers. a lot of people in here have brothers and get that. he's a dear friend. i don't have any friction with sean, i don't have any friction, we are serving the president and i want to make sure that our cultural template is to put the president's agenda first which is perfect for the american people. we have a little bit of friction in the white house as a result, it's okay. we can live with that. i've been interviewed about steve, i think he was instrumental in helping us win the election. >> martha: he'll be seeing and hearing that face and voice a lot in the coming days. in a moment, mollie hemingway, and howard kurtz, but first some
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breaking news. just moments ago, we go to john roberts with the very latest this evening. good evening, john. >> good evening to you. this is why the task that anthony scaramucci is about to undertake is so important. you've got first of all president who takes himself off message regularly. close things like obamacare and made america out of the water. now there's a headline in "the washington post" tonight that the attorney general jeff sessions, according to another leak from the intelligence agency, contrary to what he has said in public was heard on these intelligence intercepts the having conversations with the russian ambassador to the united states, surrogate kissed leah, about the trump campaign they had said previously that he had met with him and talked only as a u.s. sent senator. this new leak has him talking
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about the campaign and about u.s.-russia policy, and how that might change. that's going to be a big headache for scaramucci as he comes in. it's also going to be a headache for sean spicer, the current press secretary, because he is hanging around until the end of august. he has the herculean task of trying to juggle all these balls in the air for the last six months. we all know the incoming fire that the white house is taken. but scaramucci in announcing his new position today it was very generous to sean spicer aziz on the web. listen here. >> i would love to have sean here. he thought it would be better to go in for me as it relates to him, it speaks volumes to him as a human being, who he is as a team player. his attitude is if anthony is coming out, and a clear the slate for anthony, and i do appreciate that about sean and i love him for. >> martha, was talking to sean spicer a short time ago and he seems okay with everything here. he thought the way it was being
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proposed didn't work and he thought it would be better for him to get out of the way. he is looking forward to a normal life at some point. what lies ahead. he was in very good spirits. >> martha: he's been working none stop for the last year and a half. thank you very much, john. more on all of this. chris stirewalt, fox news politics are, editor, and howard kurtz, fox news media analyst and host of media buzz. welcome to all three of you. lots happened on friday. let me just turn to you, chris. what you want to take first or? >> did administration has been trying to turn the page, and as you and john were just discussing it's very hard to turn the page when midway through the crinkle you have a news story that lands on top of that one. you can see scaramucci today trying to put the best face forward, say it's going to be a
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clean break, new chapter, but even in the midst of doing that in real time you have a microcosm of the story for the trump administration every time they are trying get a new start the new think traps on their head. >> martha: molly, look at what we've learned over the past couple of days, looks like there is a leak fest going on again. in terms of what's coming from perhaps the mueller's camp. now we learn that jeff sessions conversations with sergey kislyak maven more substantial. may be the campaign, but there was an intercept, and then you have the pushback from the white house about questioning robert mueller and whether or not he is the right person for the job. >> this is all related. just a pushback in what john roberts had, i read the story and it doesn't seem like the intelligence community was spying on sessions, they were spying on sergey kislyak. they're listening for his conversations, and sounds like what he was talking about was russia policy. the way that they are spending it is that they were talking
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about campaign related matters. if you're to indication chap, you need to know these facts, get the facts out, pushback against narratives and how they are set. there is a difference between talking about russian policy with an investor and campaign strategy, which is what sessions actually said he never discussed with sergey kislyak. >> martha: that would be consistent with the story we've heard with mike flynn. you get people in russia talking about conversations they had with people that are in the campaign. new sort of have to take that with some sort of understanding. that's their conversation about what they spoke about. >> anthony scaramucci, definitely used humor i thought today in his debut, is one advantage that sean spicer didn't have. a pre-existing friendship and relationship with president trump he's been a good soldier, even with the stories in the press every other week, he was doing an impossible job.
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he was caught in a crossfire between a president who considers the press dishonest in a press corps that is found him too combative and evasive. for years he's been seen as a good guy, affable spokesman, but from the first day on the job when he lectured the press and then walked out, he has increasingly been involved in hostile exchanges, tense exchanges with the press corps, and that made it difficult for him to continue. >> martha: he's a good guy. i think a lot of people feel that about sean spicer. he certainly worked very hard. when you watched anthony scaramucci out there, he did have an affable way, and he had that sort of authority and confidence that a good press secretary has with that room. you've defined the balance where you are among friends but you are in charge. >> there is no question that he had a better first day than sean spicer. we are members sean spicer's first day when he went out and
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took baths and hurl them at the press corps because they weren't recorded on the number of attendees for the inauguration that the president preferred. so this is a better day. and may be, how on to something. donald trump said before he likes to hire rich people. he likes to hire people who he thinks have been successful in the arenas of life that he things are worthwhile. scaramucci, a hedge fund guy, a very rich human being. i would hazard a guess to say that he is the richest medications director of the white house is ever had. most of these people are people who've lived up in our politics. scaramucci said something interesting the other day, nobody in washington has the money. he comes down to washington and was like you people are poor. yeah, because we are hacks or flex, i wake up at work this way. so maybe he will trust and like him because he's a rich guy from wall street. >> martha: that's the fascinating dynamic. in new york it's all about the money, the success.
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in washington it's about proximity to power. who you know, and who you work for. which makes me to my next point, molly. this is a changing of the guard between establishment, it seems the administration when they were coming in that they needed the conduit to congress. people who understood washingto washington. whether or not it's these people's fault, it doesn't appear to have translated into legislative success on the hill for them. >> or it may have been a good way to operate your first six months and maybe it's time for a change of strategy. journalists, analysts, and people working for trump themselves, they need to come to terms with how different this presidency is from the typical presidency. for the people who work for trump, it might be wise to embrace that. sometimes the medications shop is trying to put a typical strategy approach for an atypical president. >> martha: we will end on that. great to see all three of you.
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as the russia probe continues to heat up, towards the investigation stand out? what does all this mean as the president tries to move the white house onto the next stage and back to his agenda. >> follow-up on rob mueller. does president trump have confidence that robert mueller will conduct a fair investigationn.? it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink.
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>> the legal team's efforts to undermine robert mueller's credibility. >> again, the president has absolutely nothing to do with any of the allegations that are being made. >> martha: that is the new press secretary sarah huckabee sanders as of today. a big shake up as you know coming at the white house to try to find its footing as they press against this russian investigation which they say is a hoax and a nonstory. we turned out to chief national correspondent ed henry. live in the white house tonight. how does all this fit in to the big picture, the agenda, and the stuff that they promise that get done. high, high, hi, ed we heard all about how anthony scaramucci is a financier, it's mostly get a medical broker and as he walked up to the white house podium today and dealt with not just the
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diagnosis of one run, but the prescription to fix all of this. particularly talking about the good things the president has done that anthony's care which he believes the press is not been focusing on. but also how to deal with major issues like special counsel robert mueller who has a rapidly expanding investigation right now. it is looking at financial transactions, involving the trump business, but also as john roberts reported, "the washington post" knew tonight, the notion that jeff sessions and his interaction with the russians during the campaign may have been much more extensive than he has let on. that could get more scrutiny. at the podium he said i'm not talking about these kinds of issues. i'm not going to pour gasoline on the fire. i will talk in private with the white house counsel. that's the kind of thing they've not seen in recent days. the getting the big picture agenda on track. tax cuts, health care. but we will see next week is the president going back in the campaign mode where he feeds off
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the energy of the crowd. he will be in the battleground state of ohio, and scaramucci said look, this is about getting back to the biggest theme from the campaign. >> i don't see this guy is a guy that underachieved, this is a competitive person. there's a lot of incoming at the white house, but the president is a winner. we are going to do is do a lot of winning. >> the very theme we heard from the president again and again in the campaign. challenge for anthony scaramucci is going to be, despite all that talk, he, like the president, doesn't have government experience. what he does have, though, is a street fighter mentality that this president savors very much. >> martha: ed, thank you. katrina pierson here with more. a spokesperson for america first policy. and michael starr hopkins is a democratic strategist. welcome to both of you. want to get to the larger issues here. we are going through this latest news from "the washington post," and as i go through it, as is
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usually the case, when you get beyond the headline, and talks about that the officials emphasize that the information contradiction sessions -- they acknowledge that the russian ambassador could have mischaracterized or exaggerated the nature of the interactions. headsets earlier in the piece that it turns out they discussed u.s.-russian relations, and the trump team's perspectives on that, which i suppose could be nefarious. but i'm not really sure what else he would discuss with an ambassador from russia. >> well, this is what happens. "the washington post" puts out a salacious headline, all the speculation in the media, and a day or so later there is an hoops or a mischaracterization or there. the bottom line is we're six months into this hoax, and there is zero evidence of collusion. we're still talking about the election here. i'd like to remind everyone, we
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are only having this discussion because the losing team claimed foul, and nobody is looked at the evidence. this is a witch hunt, just as the president has been saying. >> i would point out, had jeff sessions not lied multiple times about meeting with russia, then it wouldn't be an issue. here, hedy met with the russian investor, the end of itself isn't an issue. it's the fact that he continuously has misrepresented those conversations about it. i think had the president not spend political capital on things other than this, we would be having this conversation. >> martha: is that a fair point? >> it's not really a fair point, because the definition of the term meeting has been changing. a sitting senator that speaks to an ambassador and passing, is that a meeting? that's the question. we talk about more leaks once
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again. if there is evidence, it would have already come out by now. i know there isn't evidence because the trump campaign did not collude with the russians to win this election. donald trump could've won this election with his plane and his cell phone, and it's pretty obvious now that there's no one in the kremlin that would -- >> martha: anna but one thing up here. this is from an article that happened a long time ago. this is an analysis of what's going on with the ken starr investigation. presidents aids expand offensive to counter ken starr prosecutor is denounced as corrupt and accused of leading a witch hunt. here we go again. his incredible, the similarity spin katrina. >> that's the media for you. this is only happening because the losing side claimed foul, and no one bothered to look at
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the evidence. now they're trying to find some. try to find anything to go after the president. it's simply unfair and it needs to stop it. we went president trevor said it is out-of-bounds, the finances are unrelated to anything doing with russia. do you think jeff sessions and and -- >> absolute. paul manafort, a lot of officials and the president himself are vulnerable. we can make this about democrats and things like that. but the president himself, the chief of staff, they have lied repeatedly. jeff sessions said he had no meetings. paul manafort said he had no meetings. that ended up not being true. you can't make that about the democrats making this about the russian collusion. they have lied multiple times, nothing at the end of the day we have to -- >> what is the definition of
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meeting? that's when is to be freed up. otherwise someone talking to someone a passing does not classify as a meeting. >> martha: thank you. good to have you here. thanks for being back in the studio tonight. still ahead, now that o.j. simpson is going to be out of prison shortly, about oj's future, what does that hold. when we come back. stay with us. you do all this research on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree.
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at the same time you've got russia and bring up their military presence on the ground, which is new in syria. mike pompeo offering this blunt assessment of moscow's interest in the war-torn country. >> what is russia's interest in syria? what's there and came? because they love a warm water naval port and they loved us to get to america. i'm sort of kidding, but i think they find any place they can make our lives more difficult and i think they find something useful to them. from an intelligence perspective it's clear they have the intention of remaining there. >> martha: tony shafer is a senior fellow at the london center for policy research, and ben collins special forces officer who served three tours in afghanistan. gentlemen, good evening. i'll come to both of you. i want to start with mike pompeo's comments.
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especially in light of the fact that we are living in a situation we are constantly scrutinizing how serious this administration is about the threat that russia poses to us, so tony putting those two things together, how do you read mike pompeo here? >> mike is completely accurate. even in the obama administration, they stated that russia is our largest global competitor and they have expanded the midwest. the syria issue is one that we cannot take and lead to just fade. the russians are there, they are invited, we are not paired with three cognizant, and pushback on the fact -- it was assad that allowed it to slip in a cast. mike pompeo was speaking very clearly what the issue is. one of the things we are doing, where try to create an arab
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nato, to counter what we see the russians doing right now. they are attempting to form what we see as it damascus back. syria, iran, russia opposing our arab allies. we are doing all we can to help the white house and pentagon to think of a effective counter on the growing russian interest in the region. >> martha: we understand that the russians are putting fixed wing jets on the ground in an airbase in southeastern syria. we saw an interview that the foreign secretary dead, he said look, the united states has airbases all over the world. if we want one in syria, we have every reason to do so. i'm paraphrasing what he said. what's your reaction of that? >> if they have the capability with the airbases, they could still have their jets at the syria and a base, but a specific russian airbase, they've got
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naval facility. to some extent he's absolutely right. where do we have our bases? we have them to protect our national interest. i think that russia has a lot stronger base, certainly when it comes to syria, of national interest in syria than we do. because that's the single naval port that they have a long limited training, they've been selling arms into syria. as colonel schaefer mentioned, they have been building up their alliances in that region, specifically to iran. with the announcement that we are pulling the support from the cia backed rebels, and i we have to look at this and say what policies can we put into place that work. historically that hasn't been effective. i'm not looking at this as a capitulation russia, but maybe
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it's a realistic evaluation of what we can do moving forward to counter their influence with something that might work. >> martha: weird general jack keane on last night, and he was very much pulling back of the cia covert program by this administration. he did see it as a gift to rush and something they wanted. tony, what you think? >> i disagree completely. it was completely ineffective. i'm all for sticking it to the russians and being aggressive, but there's a certain point and time when you reckon is a program is overfunded and produced nothing. central command testified that we spent $10 million to recruit five people. come on. there are things we should do in that order, but we should do it to proxies. we're doing it with strategy, there are proxies we can use effectively. i'm not saying we should pull out. i'm saying we should find a way to get back in there more effectively. that cia program was working for >> martha: do you agree? >> i do.
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there are some outstanding questions. number one, as colonel schaefer mentioned, we had a hard time evaluating who is moderate in his not. the concept of these organized rebel groups, always more paper than anything realistic. my concern is if there are truly moderates, we put them in a position where they have a binary choice. they can either accept assad or they can join something like al qaeda or the islamic state. there are questions that have to be answered for the potential blowback. but i agree completely with colonel schaefer that look, we've never really had a successful execution of funding and arming rebel groups without a direct american intervention. >> martha: thank you. if you are both right, and that act as a active political courage, because it makes them look -- but maybe it's military clarity. good to see you both tonight.
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new details on the deadly naval ship crests back in june that took the lives of seven of our sailors aboard the uss fitzgerald. my investigation is now say that they know what happened. and o.j. simpson getting parole, bringing back old wounds to the family of nicole simpson and ron goldman. who are mercilessly murdered in 1994. the case still supposedly unsolved. ron goldman's family here with their reaction to a newly free in october o.j. simpson. >> can you get some one over here now to three 325 green? he's back. >> what is he look like. figure he's o.j. simpson. i think you know his record but can you just sent somebody over here? with an app. your son is turning on all the lights again! you can do the same with your car insurance with the esurance mobile app. esurance.
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>> thank you. >> martha: and with that, after nine years behind bars, o.j. simpson will soon be a free man. the nevada parole board granting him an early release in october. simpson testified that he is a changed man. when asked what he had been imprisoned to rehabilitate, this is his answer. >> they give you a bunch of little tools about how to talk to people, instead of throwing punches, tools i've used here. it's how you talk to people. the tone that she is. it's been here now, one of oj's closest friends, tom, tom thank you for being with us today. you are in the courtroom there yesterday, or the parole room, but was o.j. simpson's reaction afterward when you two spoke? >> he was elated. thrilled. excitement. joy. >> martha: what kind of like to think he will have now?
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what you expect them to do? >> he says he wants to live in florida. he wants to live a quiet life, wants to play golf. he wants to see his kids, spent time with his family. he doesn't want media or any circuses surrounding him. we've got to try to keep him contained a little. >> martha: you don't believe that he will take advantage of any of the so-called media reality tv show offers that are coming into him according to reports? >> no. absolutely not. that's ridiculous. >> martha: what's he going to do for money? >> listen, i can't speak for the man's finances. but i can guarantee you whoever is assaying reality show or anything like that is making up stories. oj will not do anything like that. ever. >> martha: what makes you say
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that? in between the trial and when he was in jail, he would call in to radio shows, he would call into television news programs when he wanted to speak up. why would that of change now? >> i don't know that he did that i don't know that that's a fact. if you stated, he did. but oj likes to talk. but he will not be going into media. he will not be doing any reality shows. norm pardo has never been his manager. he was a fake. he followed us around the camera. any time he came i went home. it's going to think it's going to be difficult for him when he's back on the outside again? i know that he has very few friends before this robbery happened, and you have stuck by him. he saved taken heat for that. i'm just going to be an isolated life for him? what's he going to do every day?
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>> first of all i don't think i've taken heat. i haven't heard any heat. i haven't watched the news, but i haven't heard any heat. >> martha: he said he left some contacts because of your friendship with them. >> i left some contracts years ago, yes. in my business. but i chose to do it. in my heart i felt that was right. instead of protecting myself, i stood up for the man that i kno know. the media does not know, i know. >> martha: tom, thank you very much. good to have you with us today. thank you sir. >> thank you. >> martha: here with me in the study are kim and fred goldman, the sister and brother. we spoken before. good to see both of you again. thanks for coming in. what was your reaction to all this? speak with the parole hearing?
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i was shocked. i had never watched a parole hearing like that before. i was expecting a little bit more of a scripted procedure on his part. i thought he be more methodical pit he was as rambling as ever. he was avoiding the questions that were asked of him. i guess this is what happens. is what victims and survivors go through across the country. now i know what that expanses. >> martha: he talked about wanting to get back to his life, fred, and i want to play one sound bite and get your thought thoughts. >> i've missed a lot of time. 36 birthdays with my children. and not missing their graduation. i met a point my life were all he wanted to spend time with my children and my friends. >> martha: what you think about that? >> i think it's -- he didn't
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spend much time with his family when he was out of jail, all the sun is to become a loving father of all time? i don't think so. i don't think it's in his being to be that kind of person. i think he is who he is. he's a thug. he is an abuser a murderer. he's a liar. narcissistic sociopaths. i don't think it's within his ability to be a decent human being. >> martha: when he watched mr. denny said things like i've never been a person who is involved in conflict, never used a weapon on anybody. >> except for anna nicole. >> martha: i understand that the criminal case and his domestic violence wasn't allowed to be part of this process in nevada, but it's hard to ignore that that was proven, proven in civil court, we have 911 tapes,
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the whole world has heard them. what a disrespectful thing to say to nicole's family and the mother of his children. she was a domestic violence victim, and how disrespectful to take that approach. it's almost as if he's completely block that out, to watch him sit there -- and when everybody else covering the story and listening at home has the same reaction that you just had, wait a minute, we remember those frantic phone calls from nicole simpson. we saw what happened to these poor two young people, your son, your brother. how can you sit there and sort of pretend, even if he completely blocked out the murders, the abuse that was well documented by the police. >> at the same portion of his persona that he doesn't believe that he does anything wrong. how to know if your member ago, when he was asked with pictures in front of him of handprints on
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nicole's throat, bruises on her face, how did they get that way. i don't know. maybe she walked into my hand, bumped into a door. he never accepts responsibility for anything. therefore he doesn't believe anything he's ever done is a problem. >> martha: given that, do you think on the outside -- what you expect, you try not to spend too much time think about what he's going to do with his free time when he gets out, but do you think he will stay out of trouble? he owes you guys $33 million. maybe some of that has been shaved off. >> more than that. >> martha: if he were to do a reality tv show, what would you expect in terms of reimbursement? >> we are going to do it we've always done since we were awarded the judgment back in 1987. we going to pursue the judgment because that's what the civil system affords -- afforded us as a purpose of punishment. if we don't go after the judgment that we've given him
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another free pass. we will continue with our attorneys to pursue that judgment. i don't know that he's going to do that. i think there's going to be a lot of eyes on him now. different than it was before. i don't know that i think is going to commit another crime. i think he is not going to shy away from the limelight like they are saying. i don't the case capable of that, but we have to wait and see. >> i think he relishes being in the public view. >> martha: we've seen that before. >> i think that's just part of his persona and he will do that again. >> martha: fred coleman, good to see you both again. thank you very much for being with us today. a victory for free speech, ben schapiro is no stranger to controversy on campuses. his appearances sometimes sparking a reaction like this. but tonight there is a big development in his fight to speak at one of our nation's most prominent universities. we are going to talk to him
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>> martha: on a busy night with a couple short stories here. we're learning the details about the deadly collision between the uss fitzgerald and a cargo ship off the coast of japan. an initial investigation reportedly blames our navy, with a source also telling fox news that many on board could have helped to avert the crash which killed seven u.s. sailors. and kentucky taxpayers and on the hook for more than $200,000 in attorneys fees. involving the controversial clerk kim davis. who refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses. a federal judge ruling that she was acting for the state and is not responsible for the fees. and could it be maxine waters in 2020? one of president trump's biggest critics back in the headlines after suggesting she could run for president if millennials rally behind her. but the california congresswoman has clarified and said she is
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just kidding. that was a warm welcome. i was the ugly scene back in 2016, one conservative ben shapiro showed up to speak at cal state l.a. tonight he is once again at the center of a debate on free speech -- this time at uc berkeley. conservatives say they were trying to block an event featuring him later this year. it's a charge the school is denying. ben shapiro joins us now, editor in chief of daily why. welcome back to the program. under what pretense were they suggesting that it would be impossible for you to come speak on campus? >> the college republicans, they wanted me to come on september 14th. i spoke at berkeley last year, no problem. we did it three weeks in
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advance, no protesters. this time they were turned back an email and said, well, that's not a good time. it's not a good date. all of those revoked. they wouldn't explain why they are booked or who had booked them, they suggested we would have to jump through 99 hoops in order to book the events. there is this the possibility that the security review will result in recommendations from you cpd that would preclude the use of some of these venues and might rule out certain hours. that initially provide a list of alternative dates, times, venues, that would actually work. after a bit of public pressure they are nothing, and i'm glad to do this, that they're going to facilitate the event. they've not commit that as far as i'm aware. to either college or publicans or to young america's foundation. they did the same thing with ann coulter earlier this year. they said and coulter could come speak, they would facilitate it, and then they proceeded to mess around with a time and date and make it nearly impossible for her to speak. changing venue over and over. >> martha: you don't know what's going to happen at this point. an indication you are getting is that they are going to be up in
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arms, they're going to allow this to happen. what's your sense of where the pressure comes from? student groups, faculty groups on campus? >> i think it is outside agitators. what we see at berkeley, outside agitators, the heckler's veto, which is a bunch of rioters basically coming in, creating a security threat. in the administration using that as an excuse not to hold the event, saying that it cost too much money. we don't want to arrest student students. they did this with ann coulter, and that's pretty dangerous proceeding. when he start canceling events because you are afraid of the security costs, that's incentivizing people to get violence if they want to shut people down. >> martha: we talk about this issue on this program, but is it your sense that there is pressure pushing back against this and that campuses are becoming more aware that they do need to allow free speech, that
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they need to encourage civilized conversation, debate over political thought? >> i do think that there is a a big of a backlash. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders said the need to open up, but not practical grounds they need to -- they say this they've seen no evidence that their systematic bias. against conservative. it's bizarre even the hate that we've seen from uc berkeley over the last year or so. i an open call for her, she wants to show that there is such things in place. she should push the legislators, all of california. , the soft game by democrats, yes free speech on campus. but if it turns out that we can actually facilitate it because of violent threats and we don't want to get into these situations, then we are going to do too much to stop it. they need to do more than speak out in favor of free speech. they need to take action. >> martha: flip it ben thank you very much.
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good to see you again. when we come back, a moving honor for three of america's great heroes. an emotional moment at the pentagon. stick around for this. made specifically for indoor cats. purina cat chow. nutrition to build better lives.
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>> martha: finally tonight a moving moment at the white house. president trump opening up his doors to three of the five remaining survivors of the uss arizona. the worship was attacked by the japanese at pearl harbor in 1941, killing more than 1,000 service numbers. the president's message to the brave world war ii veterans is our quote of the night. listen. >> in them we see the strength of our nation, the courage of our men and women in uniform. the result never -- and the idea that justice will triumph in the america that we know and love will always be there. we will always prevail. >> martha: that is our story
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for tonight. have a good weekend everybody. he was he back here on monday night. 7:00 p.m. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." as you know doubt know by now, press secretary sean spicer announced his resignation earlier today after a rough six month tenure. just one month after he was promoted into new duties. meanwhile, anthony scaramucci has joined the white house as a communications director. he is the same man who just blotted cnn's nose by forcing them to retract a story linking him to russia. cnn had to fire three producers in the aftermath of that. he spoke to sean hannity following his departure. here's a preview of what that conversation looks like. >> he started sharing


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