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saber-rattling down there. in addition, we've gotten word, it's confirmed, you may have seen it, los angeles gets the 2028 olympics. the olympics coming back to the united states for the first time since atlanta back in 96. the final bell is ringing on wall street. it's an update on wall street and another all-time high. cavuto starts now. >> neil: you're right on that, shep. welcome. i'm neil cavuto. you're watching "your world." minutes away from a press conference where it's always who's new on a given day. out as the communications director, anthony scaramucci and what happened and how did it happen so fast? john roberts? >> people are asking, neil, but the way it went down, john kelly was named the white house chief of staff on friday. over the weekend, he said look, i have chain of command. the person that is the communications director does not fit within that chain of command because he had a direct line of access to the president. so over the course of the weekend and this morning, anthony scaramucci said let's
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clear the decks. let me go back to the xm back and let john kelly have his clean slate to put his own team in there that's the way it's coming down. we don't know if it's because of the chain of command and kelly wanted to make a change there or if it had something to do with the interview that scaramucci gave last week, the profanity-laced interview that he gave with the correspondent from that one publication. clearly john kelly likes to run a tight ship. if he's got somebody out there who he believes is a bit of a loose cannon, not to say he was, he probably will want to reign that person in. kelly comes from a live of combatant commanders that includes james mattis and joe dunford. i remember in the iraq war of 2003, dunford relieved the commander of the unit that was traveling with right in the heat of battle. so this is a group of combatant commanders that when they see a
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problem, they deal with it swiftly and quickly. what is really interested about this, neil, is the fact that the president had wanted scaramucci in that job. he had given him that direct line of communication. he had given him seniority over sean spicer and ten days later in comes john kelly and scaramucci is out. so just goes to show that the president is willing to take some pretty drastic steps to get the team in that he wants, neil. >> neil: you mentioned -- here we are. >> don't worry, john roberts. you have plenty of time. >> waiting for you. good afternoon, everyone. before we get started, i'd like to bring up general h.r. mcmaster and treasury secretary steve mnuchin to discussion the administration's response, to the maduro regimed anti-democratic actions in venezuela. they will make opening remarks and take your questions on the topic at hand and then as
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always, your favorite time of day, i'll come back up and take your questions. thank you. >> hi. good afternoon. i thought it might be best to read the president's statement. the trump administration has called on venezuela's maduro regime to respect venezuela's constitution, respect the role and authorities of the constitutionally established national assembly, hold free and fair elections, address the humanitarian needs of the venezuelan people, release political prisoners and stop oppressing its great people. the regime has renewed to heed this call and recent actions culminating in yesterday's outrageous seizure of absolute power through the sham election of the national constituent assembly represent a very
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serious blow to democracy in our hemisphere. maduro is not just a bad leader, he is now a dictator. the united states stands with the people of venezuela in the face of this oppression. we will work with our partners to hold accountable all of those responsible for the escalating violence and ongoing human rights violations. the president promised strong and swift actions if the regime went forward with imposing the national constituent assembly on the venezuelan people. he will keep that promise. secretary mnuchin. >> thank you, general. today the united states is broadening its effort to address the ongoing assault on venezuela's democratic institutions by the maduro regime. treasury's office of foreign assets control, ofac, has
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sanctioned the president of venezuela. at a result of today's sanctions, all assets of maduro subject to u.s. jurisdiction have frozen and u.s. persons are prohibited from dealing with him. as president trump said early they are month, the strong and courageous actions by the venezuelan people to stand for democracy, freedom and the rule of law have been continually ignored by nicholas maduro who dreams of becoming a dictator. yesterday's illegitimate elections confirm that maduro is a dictator that disregards the will of the venezuelan people. the national constituent assembly aspires illegitimately to use the constitutional role of democratically elected
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national assembly, rewrite the constitution and impose an authoritarian regime on the people. as such, it represents a rupture in venezuela's constitutional and democratic order. but sanctioning maduro, the united states makes clear our opposition to the policies of his regime and the support for the people of venezuela who strive to return their country to a full and prosperous democracy. as the country's head of state, maduro is directly responsible for venezuela's descent and for the destruction of democracy. adding maduro to ofac's list reflects our commitment to not stand by idly as venezuela continues to crumble under the regime's abuses. we hope the sanctions will make all maduro regime officials
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reconsider how their actions have affected their country. these actions highlight the high cost and personable enablers of this regime could face if they continue their reckless and undemocratic activities. anyone that participates in this legitimate anc could be exposed to future u.s. sanctions for the role and undermining democratic process and institutions in venezuela. now we'll take a few questions. >> if these sanctions don't work and what would the next step be? general mcmaster, is there anything on the table other than economic sanctions? >> let me say, i said this generally, we very much believe that sanctions do work and we will continue to monitor this situation and consider additional sanctions. >> and to general mcmaster?
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>> the president has prioritized his concern for the venezuelan people. so he's only considering those options which would benefit directly the venezuelan people. >> how many times does ofac sanctions stick and does maduro have any offense in the u.s.? >> i can't comment on his assets. this will be the fourth head of state. >> secretary -- >> yes. >> two questions. one on the sanctions and one about the election. the election, i want to know, do you see the election by maduro to consolidate power and also some -- "the washington post" thinks that the venezuela regime is on the direction of a coup.
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does the american government fear there's a coup underway in venezuela? and then the question i questions before. >> what we're seeing in venezuela is not a coup. what we're seeing is the brutal oppression of the venezuelan people. if you contrast the turnout from the opposition referendum to the very low numbers of the turnout during this farce associated with the constituent assembly, i think you see what the true desires of the venezuelan people are. >> either or both of you, how is this different from what happened in turkey when president erdogan seized -- expanded powers in a referendum which some say to have questionable results? president trump congratulated president erdogan on that. he later came to the u.s. and
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his people beat protesters in front of his embassy. what is the difference? >> well, i mean, one difference is you can see the end of the constitution of venezuela. this is happening obviously in an accelerated pace, in recent months in the maduro regime, this is a process that haas taken really two regimes to really restrict venezuelan democracy. by designating maduro himself, he joins an exclusive club including mr. magave and kim jong-un in terms of the brutal oppression of his people and in this case, the abrigation of the constitution with the constituent assembly. >> is the administration contemplating any action at the u.n. security council in terms of multilateral sanctions against the maduro regime?
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>> i think as we said before, this president is not going to advertise what he's going to do in the future. all options are on the table and we will consider everything. >> are allies of the u.s. in favor of punishing the maduro regime? >> what was the question. >> have you spoken to any other allies about the issue of punishing -- >> you've seen the president's statement. he says we're going to continue to work with our partners in the region. many leaders have taken an important role with trying to engage maduro to get him to moderate his behavior. we have tried very hard in this area. so the president's committed to working with partners in the region on behalf of the venezuelan people. >> we had several countries last week join us in our previous sanctions. yes. >> what kind of conversations
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has the administration had with mr. maduro and do you expect to happen the next 24 and 48 hours? >> i think we're not going to comment on that. >> you have said -- the president had promised strong and swift economic sanctions, this is for individual. will the president carry out strong and swift economic sanctions? >> again, we had a series of sanctions last week, this is an additional sanction today. we don't comment on future sanctions but we will continue to monitor the situation and determine what is appropriate. >> there was talk of maybe making changes in terms of our export of light crude oil to venezuela or curbing venezuelan oil imports is. that on the table or seen as hurting the venezuelan people? >> let me say as we continue to mron or the this situation, we will continue to review all of our options. our objective is not to do
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anything that hurts the people of venezuela. let me just say, we will continue to monitor all of our specific options. >> with sanctions against oil -- >> i'm not going to comment on that we'll monitor all of our options. >> thank you, mr. secretary. 16 years ago, secretary powell signed an agreement in south america in which the u.s. completely ruled out support of coups that would have an indirect change of government and supported directed succession. this occurred in haiti when the president was overthrown. are you still abiding by the agreement secretary powell signed and ruling out any u.s. support of a coup or an uprising against the maduro regime that brings in new leadership? >> again, i'm just going to comment. we're focused on the democratic process and that's what we're
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focused on right now. one more question. right here. >> are there going to be sanctions on the administer of defense of people linked to the military? >> as i said, we've announced sanctions and we will continue to monitor the situation. thank you, everybody. appreciate it. >> you guys wasted your questions on the same one over and over. just kidding. tough crowd today. i know it's a little late. we're used to doing the briefing, so i'll have a few updates before i get to your questions. i wanted to make sure you were aware last week the first lady announced she will lead the united states delegation in support of the 90 american athletes completing at the games in toronto canada this september. as the president often says, there's no better representative of the united states than the first lady and he's very proud to have her leading the team that will support these american
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athletes. the first lady is very much looking forward to her first solo international trip and her office is available to answer any questions you may have. as you know, the vice president is overseas on a three-country visit to eastern europe. he spent the last few days in astonia attending meeting and visiting the multinational troops in the president's mission where he recognized astonia as one of five nato member states that meets its defense spending obligations. the vice president arrived in georgia. he continues to strengthen our relationships, and here at home the departments of commerce and energy welcomed news a partnership with american energy and the government of ukraine. the ukraine will person american thermo coal. this partnership will provide them with a secure and reliable
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alternative energy source. helping to stabilize an energy supply which is historically been at the country's volatile neighbors. this announcement will boost our own economy, supporting jobs in the coal and transportation industry. as the trump administration continues to move us down the path of energy dominance, we hope to see more partnerships like this in the future. lastly we saw the ceremony that ended in the east room. specialist 5 mccloughan was in afterwards, but his heroic story bears repeating again. for 48 hours in vietnam, he risked his life multiple times to protect his comrades even though he was slashed open from head to foot. even carrying one soldier to safety on his own badly injured back. at one comrad recalled, the
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medic could count on him. the president awarded him with the medal of honor and adding him a list of american heros that will stand for bravery and unbreakable spirit. with that, i'll take your questions. how long will you yell? kidding. jen. >> is anthony scaramucci still in the administration? does he have another role? can you talk about anthony scaramucci's departure. >> he does not have a role in the trump administration. we put out a statement earlier announcing that. i don't have much else to add. >> did general kelly ask him to leave or did the president ask him to leave? how did that come about? >> i'm not going to get into the process. tick tok. as we said several times before, what matters most to us is not
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who is i'm employed in the white house but who is i'm employed in the rest of the country. we're focused on the president's agenda of growing the economy, creating jobs and that's what we're going to do and that's what we're going to be focused on. john? >> was there a chain of command issue? scaramucci said he had a direct line of communication to the president. there's been some speculation that general kelly may try to tighten up the number of inputs that the president has. so was it something about the chain of command or did it have anything to do with that interview that scaramucci did last week? >> the president certainly felt that anthony's comments were inappropriate for a person in that position. he didn't want to burden general kelly. also with that line of succession as we made clear a few times over the course of the last couple days to several individually, general kelly has the full authority to operate within the white house and all
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staff will report to him. >> when you say didn't want to burden him with that line of success, you mean the chain of >> yes. correct. >> and clarify one point about this chain of command. apparently jared kushner and ivanka trump said they look forward to following general kelly's lead. when it comes to access of the president, will that conduit be narrowed down now? will some things flow around the chief of staff's office? >> as i said, the president has given full authority to general kelly and he will make those determinations. april? >> this statement that you released by the white house says mr. scaramucci felt that was best to give john kelly a clean slate and the ability to build his own team. you said the president felt his comments were inappropriate. >> i don't see those as being mutually exclusive. i think anthony wants general kelly to operate fully with a clean slate, build his own team while at the same time the
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president felt his comments were inappropriate. >> a follow up to that. with the new hierarchy with general kelly, tell us what it looks like in this administration. as we laid out, general kelly i think will bring a new structure to the white house, discipline and strength. we're all really excited to work with him. in terms of -- i'm not going to draw out and org chart but we'll keep you posted. >> steve bannon, kellyann, everybody reports under him? they all go to general kelly first? >> i think i'm clear general kelly has the full authority to carry out business as he sees fit. john? >> real quickly. with regard to sean spicer. will he be in the administration in any way now that anthony scaramucci has announced he won't be part of the trump administration? >> i'm not aware of any changes on that front. >> my second one is ten days
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ago, anthony scaramucci was introduced as the new white house communications director. ten days later, he's out of a job. the president announced on twitter that there's no chaos at the white house. how would you describe what has happened over the course of the past ten days? obviously you'll agree with your boss, the president, that there's no chaos. how do you explain that not to be the case? >> it's simple. i've said it before. if you want to see, come to my house with three preschoolers. this doesn't hold a candle. just to be clear, that's not an open invitation to come to my house. if you want to schedule baby-sitting time, bill happy to work that out. >> does the president regret hiring anthony scaramucci? >> i'm not going to get into anything beyond what i've said on that front. >> you said you don't want do get into the process. but you did with the statements that scaramucci felt. so you're laying this on him. you're saying it was his
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decision. was it his decision. >> i've been clear the president felt it was inappropriate that an tony and general kelly also came to a mutual agreement and were moving to focus on the jobs outside this building, not within it. >> two questions. just to clarify because i want to make sure i understand the word "he" here. you said a minute ago "he didn't" want to burden general kelly with that line of success. >> the president. >> the president. so you were saying that it's the president who is deciding that -- >> look, we all serve at the pleasure of the president. this was a mutually agreed conversation that took place between several people. >> just on the -- on russia and russia sanctions. do you know whether the president has or intends to soon sign the russian sanctions bill and why hasn't the president taken the opportunity, as he had several public opportunities to say something to president
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putin's retaliation with the 755 diplomats? >> we put out a statement over the weekend stating the president's intent to sign. we'll let you know when that takes place. again, we'll let you know when that will happen. in terms of your second question, the follow up was -- i'm sorry? >> why hasn't he taken the opportunity to say something forceful to president putin? it's striking the silence from the president with no sort of response out of his own mouth. he had a couple opportunities to say something and he didn't. >> right now we're reviewing options. when we have something to say, we'll let you know. >> and to go back to april's question. >> why not? >> you said earlier all staff will report to the new chief of staff. does that include jared kushner and steve bannon, everybody reports -- >> that includes everybody at the white house. >> and i want to ask about tax reform. will the administration absolutely support the version of taxover haul that comes out
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of the ways and means committee. >> we're working hand and glove -- we put out a statement and will announce details as they come forward. >> when sean spicer resigned, it was boiler plate. and now that anthony scaramucci it's referred to as a clean slate. has the slate be cleaned? any more staff shakeups? >> no. >> two very brief questions. is there any chance you'll just leave the job of communications director alone having had two people that held it leave wrarar abruptly? >> we'll let you know if we have an announcement. >> when the president made his speech to police officers friday, almost within minutes statements came from police chiefs across the country.
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criticizing his remarks that seem to endorse the use of force by police in certain arrests. was the president joking when he said this or did he check his remarks out with the international association of police chiefs or maybe the attorney general? >> i believe he was making a joke at the time. trey? >> to be clear, the statements that anthony scaramucci is no longer with the administration, was scaramucci fired by the president or was he asked to resign? >> i'm not going to get into anything i said on that front. >> from the president's perspective, you said this was a back and forth conversation. can you take us through a little bit of what the president is looking for in his communications shop, why he make this decision to make a clean slate? >> i think that he wants to work with general kelly in the communications team that is intact right now and determine what the best course forward is at this point.
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>> attorney general sessions is being considered for homeland security chief accurate? how soon will that search be complete and how essential is it for the white house to fill that? >> there are no conversations about any cabinet members moving in any capacity. the president has 100% confidence in all members of his cabinet. >> one question on the scaramucci issue. you said the president backed his remarks. obviously the president is not a stranger to salty language. can you see what he found inappropriate or disturb something. >> i said he found it inappropriate for a person in that position. >> to what? >> the comments that he made. he found them inappropriate. i'm not sure what is inclear. >> when you talk about the messaging being important to the president here and obviously the head of the communications department is crucial. what went wrong this afternoon -- >> again, i don't think it's complicated to understand that
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the president felt the comments were inappropriate. i can't explain it any further than that. i'm not sure -- >> on north korea, there's been discussions about speculating about a first strike is. that an option on the table? >> as we've said many times before, the president won't broadcast any decisions. all options are on the table. >> the president signed an executive order on infrastructure. does that mean that the president has no -- is not going to prioritize working with congress on infrastructure bills? is there any discussion at this point of moving forward on any sort of legislative plans for infrastructure, especially digital since -- >> the president has been very outspoken on the need for a massive overhaul to the
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country's infrastructure system and it's a priority legislative and in any capacity that he has the ability to carry that out. matthew? >> the big picture here, we've seen the chief of staff, the deputy chief of staff, handful of communications directors, the press secretary and the national security adviser all leave in the first six months of this administration. can you tell us why there's all this turbulence? what's going on? >> look, we're continuing to focus on the president's agenda. we're going to have staff changes. we let you know when that happen. what matters to us or not, the jobs within this building and the ones outside of there. that's why the president is so focused on growing jobs. we've created over a million new jobs, the lowest unemployment in 16 years, consumer confidence is at an all-time high. we're focused on creating a strong economy and growing jobs outside of this building, not
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focused on the ones with them. we're going to continue to do that. >> a quick follow up on healthcare. mick mulvaney said the why house doesn't want any votes in the senate until they're voting on healthcare when john mccain is out. you guys are pushing on nominees. is it the white house's position that they will accept the senate's position on nonhealthcare things the next weeks and months? >> we're going to push forward with the repeal and replacement of obamacare. we've never been shy about that. alexis? >> the president's legislative a fairs director was talking at the president's tax reform initiative. can you elaborate on the president's hope to travel in august and talk about tax cuts and tax reform.
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you have any details where he might go and he's message? >> not right now. he does hope to have a large amount of support for tax reform. it's something that is vital to our economy and something the administration is very focused on and has been. we're cutting close on time. thanks so much, guys. >> neil: there you go. what is interesting about that, this is something that the president thought would be a good idea. anthony scaramucci leaving as communications after a little more than ten days on the job. what is clear here, i think it's clear the fatal interview with new yorker with which scaramucci combined curse words with which we have rarely seen that ultimately doomed him. and then of course john kelly taking over and that changed
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everything there. and kelly wanted to obviously enforce some sort of order in the white house, that he couldn't have a communications director having a straight line to the president without going through him first. that was settled with general kelly settling that. now as the chief of staff, everyone goes through him. so the unwritten story on this day is that john kelly is the sort of the central focus here. everything goes through him. he has complete control in this. it was john kelly who accepted anthony scaramucci's resignation. all right. john roberts back with us. john, your take away from this is what? >> i think it's pretty clear that anthony scaramucci sort of cooked his goose, his own goose last week with that interview with the new yorker, that profanity-laced interview in which he thought he was off the record but hadn't laid down any ground rules with the reporter to whom he was speaking. and knowing john kelly as i do
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and the type of people that kelly has around him and has hired at dhs, that is something that doesn't fly with him. the other issue is this idea that scaramucci was proud to say when he was hired by the president a week ago last friday that he had a district line of communication that there was no one going to stand between himself and the president. it wasn't going through the chief of staff. john kelly said everybody is going through the chief of staff and sarah huckabee sanders confirmed to us a couple minutes ago that everyone including ivanka trump and jared kushner, they all report now to john kelly. so a couple of things then. he was outside the chain of command that kelly wanted and kelly and the president clearly looked at that interview that he gave last week and thought it was inappropriate for someone of the stature of the communications director at the white house to be talking like that even though of course we do know that the president has talked in tempered terms in the past as well. that was then and this is now.
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>> neil: a very different environment. do you know whether this export or import bank job is etch open for scaramucci or the message is good-bye? >> one source told me he asked to go back to the xm bank and that the president granted that wish. but at this moment, we're getting conflicting reports about that. sarah sanders saying he's not a member of this administration in any way, shape or form. what is interesting, too, even though he was going on television and speaking on behalf of the president, he hadn't officially started. the official start date was august 15th. so we don't know if he filled out the paperwork, we don't know if he was officially a government employee. it's our understanding he was not going to take a salary because he made a lot of money selling hedge funds. so probably didn't really need the 170,000 that the job paid. but we don't know if he was officially employed, had to go
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through a firing process through the federal government office of personnel management or if he just was fired because he never took the job and that was easier. it's a moot point at this point. he was a member of the federal government by virtual of his position at the xm bank. just not the white house. >> neil: it's more of a hypothetical question. if you think he had never given that new yorker interview, whether he was thought he was on the record or not, but it was a doozy for the ages, you think things would be different today? >> it's possible. as i said, there were two issues. the chain of command issue. scaramucci may have agreed to work under and report to john kelly. i think the bigger issue was the interview. some things came out in print that just never should come out in print. for a newly-minted communications director, it was a bad moment. >> not a good communication. thanks, john roberts. >> thanks. >> neil: to charlie gasparino to
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follow this story closely and among was one of the earliest to see problems for anthony. what are you hearing, charlie? >> you know, a lot of stuff bouncing around. it's our job as journalists to get on the air and try to confirm it. so i think it went beyond general kelly not wanting him. you can see that from some of the comments that sarah huckabee sanders said. it wasn't just general kelly and worrying about chain of command and clean slate. it seemed like based on what he said and stuff i'm hearing, anthony lost the confidence of the president at some point over the weekend. that sounded like cool to the president, a tough guy, finally got a tough guy in the white house, willing to back me up, turned into, you know, he was convinced that anthony was -- could be a liability in that job. the other thing is, this whole
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notion of the export import bank -- there is this report, but cnn said he was escorted from the grounds. that doesn't mean he's fired from the federal government. >> neil: escorted from the white house grounds. >> yes. but it's outside the white house. so he doesn't have that direct access to the white house anymore. so that's interesting. i'd say one other thing. remember, there were two people that anthony went after in that interview. one was priebus and the other is steve bannon who is not since departed. i'll tell you, one person you don't want to -- two people you don't want to cross. don't cross the president and don't cross steve bannon. i don't know this for a fact -- i don't know for a fact that steve bannon pressed the button on him. i do know that steve bannon was
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not happy about that statement, that anthony made about him. not just the profanity part. basically what he did is undercut steve bannon's integrity. he said he's in there -- >> neil: do we know if he's confused if the interview was on the record or not? you'd think common sense talking to a reporter you have to be careful what you're saying on or off the record? >> i like anthony. he's a smart business man. he was bad at this job. should have been in another job. i told you when we were on "your world" when he's first appointed. we are doubling down on bad. he could be erratic. there's a side of him that does not play well in this job. you double down on donald trump worst tendencies and being careful. if you go back in time, just a
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couple months ago, anthony scaramucci gave a bizarre interview to new york magazine. he thought it was off the record but it was on the record based on people i know. he gave the interview. you just don't say that stuff to reporters. fast forward now, several months later, he's in the same situation. you'd think he would have learned from that situation to be real clear. by the way, this reporter at the new yorker, is not some sort of a guy that takes on the record and off the record lightly. he was on the record. he called him up and he exploded. >> neil: all right, buddy. charlie gasparino. in the middle of this, we had a record on the dow. we had stocks surging close to 22,000 for a while. they got just shy of 21,891 on the day here. but the fact of the matter is, stocks are still on a tear led by strong earnings and what will
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likely be another double digit quarter advance. that's the first time we've seen that in quite a number of years. katherine is here and heather higgins, daniel mclaughlin and gary. danielle, let me begin with you. the sense that the markets don't carry histrionics in washington or drama in washington, they look at fundamentals and whatever drama is happening there, they like the dollars and the advance that is happening in their neck of the woods. >> neil, you're right. i think we would be saying thank goodness for that given the chaos we've seen in the last six months. july has been chaotic. consumer and business confidence is high. gop senate and congress obviously a republican president, the promises of tax reform and health care reform and structure, these are what these gains are premised on. >> katherine? >> the market has done
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sensational. but a lot has been the trump trade. if you look at u.s. treasuries, look at the dollar, the trump train has unwound but it's not unwound in the equity market. so what will that i can us to the next level? we can keep going higher, neil but under one condition. the republicans deliver on tax reform. >> neil: you talk about the trump train. the one thing i here from people, will there be hell to pay if the tax cuts don't come? others say this really is -- has gone through the failure of healthcare and numerous attempts and maybe vacant weather delayed us and even denied a tax cut what do you think? >> it's chaos living inside the media bubble. but for the rest of the world and particularly the market world where finance and global markets, you look at vicks and every other indicator, they're looking at the promise of donald trump in terms of what he's going to do for energy, what he's going to do for regulatory
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reform, what he's going to do for creating jobs and stopping the problems of illegal immigration and all of which should help with the economy. so this -- the turbulence in the little tea kettle bubble going away in washington that is ignored by a lot of this. they'll be ups and downs. by and large, this is on track. >> neil: all right. let's get a sense, gary, from you. we got mixed reads on the tax cuts about what the administration wants to see. mulvaney indicating that they want to get the healthcare thing straightened out. that surprised me. others saying they're on board with continuing with tax cuts and can work on them concur rentedly. i don't know what is the case. is it your sense that going back to the healthcare fix well is a bad move? >> i would go straight arrow towards tax reform and lower taxes. i don't know why they brought up
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healthcare again. it's a huge mistake. but hey, they have been back and forth, up and down and all around for six months. you know, the heads are spinning at this point in time. it's amazing markets are doing what they're doing. i think what you still have, neil, central banks around the globe with negative rates and printing money and a weaker dollar here that is helping out multinationals. then you have a little momentum. new highs beget new highs. boeing didn't hurt either. >> neil: and i want to talk about this. bill clinton had a rocky first six months with gays in the military and the healthcare effort that was fits. ronald reagan had a problematic first two years. looked like neither of them were going to get re-elected. they overcame the bumpy starts. is it your sense that donald trump can or we too fixated on the personnel changes?
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>> you're absolutely right. bill clinton want to two attorney generals because of many issues prior to settling on janet reno. his first six months was problematic. he was able to gather himself together, get his administration sorted and bring on some incredible years for this country. i don't think this is a terminal illness. i think actually the addition of general kelly as chief of staff is excellent. order is what this white house needs. this is not the end of this administration by anyway, shape or form. i actually take heather's point pretty well that some of us that watch this probably too closely -- >> neil: we get wrapped up in it. heather, what the other argument is, the overall environment for tax cuts as not gone away. the overall underpinnings of the economy is solid. what do you think? >> absolutely is. i wouldn't look for order from this administration. trump is a business guy. he's going to fire people when
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they're no longer fulfilling the purpose that he needs for the environment that he's in. part of his m.o. -- >> guys, i'm jumping on myself and you. more of the fallout from this. stick around. you always pay your insurance on time.
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>> neil: there's got to be a method to it. they must be saying, bring it on. if you think we can move this guy, kim jong-un, we can or won't, so they're looking for financial or trade war or seem to be tempting us on it. what do we do? >> at this point, the time for incremental measures is over. the time for talk is over. at this point in time, the state department needs to be the lead agency and have sanctions -- >> on china. >> absolutely on china. >> neil: how would you explain it to americans? the fear of prior presidents has been would americans be willing to accent markedly higher prices for goods or even higher interest rates if they start willy-nilly selling debt, which i don't think they do because it hurts them more than us. but are we ready to do that? should the president explain that as a possibility? >> i think the american people if threatened with nuclear weapons as a bargaining tool
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against the united states is not going to tolerate that from any nation. israel doesn't tolerate it from iran. the united states has never had this happen before. while nuclear weapons have been pointed at us, it's never been any threatening manner in order to achieve objectives. that's what north korea is wanting to do. the american people are smart enough and know that can't help. if we need to tighten or belt and do less as a nation because china will react to it, the american people will bond together and i think they'll be more than happy to see sanctions put in place against china if it means a safe and secure united states. >> neil: what did you think of the developments at the white house today? general john kelly making it clear he is the chief of staff. all faces, parties, entities go through him to meet with the president, even anthony scaramucci a favor of the president who is now out. >> finally, marine order and
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discipline coming to the white house. if he's going to be the device that gets in to see the president, i think you'll begin to see a more integrated and comprehensive strategy come out of the white house, certainly better communications coming out of there. the leaks will stop because people will feel like right now anyone working at the white house, their sole job is to focus on supporting one guy and one guy only, and that is the president of the united states. anything other than that is a distraction. i'm glad to see general kelly is in there and i'm glad to see trump is giving him the authority to do what is necessary. so the white house can focus on informing the american people about major issues like north korea, especially when nuclear weapons are being pointed at us. >> neil: very good point. thanks, kirk. meantime, we talk about how much further you can go with the new guy in charge of running the staff. a lot of people are saying it's
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>> you said it earlier, all staff will report to the new chief of staff. is that everybody? >> that is everybody at the white house. >> neil: all right. so we're going to interpret today's events anything other than that, it is what it is. john kelly taking over as chief of staff. everybody goes through him. michael goodwin on how long that will be. today he sent a powerful signal to do that. >> it's a big event what
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happened here. the -- you need a dictator in the white house to run the white house. if the president is going to cede that authority to john kelly,s that good news. if that meant scaramucci doesn't fit or even if the family has to report to him, that's even better news. this is a white house now committed to success and not to a freelancing, which has let to disorder and squandered messages. just all kinds of conflicts. i hope those days are past. >> neil: you think oftentimes administrations get in their own way? the president doesn't want his people and antics to get in the
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way. if kelly can succeed in that, it will go a long way of turning it around. >> as i wrote this weekend, the president has two sets of problems. the one we spoke with scaramucci's outburst, the collapse of the obamacare repeal efforts and the president's twitter thing on trans-gender soldiers, the pentagon caught off guard. that's the kind of thing that i think kelly can really work on. those are the things that in many ways are self-inflicted errors and mistakes of tactics and judgment. i think a good strong hand a general in the white house -- i don't know if we've seen a general as chief of staff of the white house, but this is a man of discipline and order. that will go a long way towards some of the problems playing the trump administration. >> neil: i think you're right. not since alexander haig.
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thanks, my friend. i apologized for the crunched time. so the first sign that the new chief of staff is doing what donald trump wanted him to do. establishing order. even though today it was rather chaotic. we'll see you tomorrow. and new favorites like dueling crab legs with dungeness and snow crab. it's happening right now right here at crabfest. red lobster. now this is seafood. your insurance on time. tap one little bumper, and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? news flash: nobody's perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance.
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>> eric: i am eric bolling with eboni k. williams and kat timpf. mrs. "the fox news specialists"" some very big news out of the white house, anthony scaramucci scaramucci -- sarah huckabee sanders addressed it at the white house briefing a short time ago. >> was scaramucci fired by the president or asked to resign? >> i'm not going to get into anything beyond what i've already said. >> eric: scaramucci held the title for ten days. white house put out a statement saying

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