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and pakistan has nuclear weapons. not just large nuclear weapons but fact -- tactical artillery weapons. >> there's pause for a reset at the top of the hour. this is a fox news alert. live coverage of president trump's address to the nation. his first prime time address in which the president will announce his administration's new afghanistan policy. delivering the speech in front of u.s. service members up the road at fort myer, virginia. i'm brett behr. >> i'm martha mccallum. the president is expect to ask india and pakistan to shoulder more of the load in the
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terrorist fight. something previous presents wanted and weren't able to get. the president said he'll cold pakistan more accountable for the longstanding support of the taliban. let's check in with john roberts on the scene in fort myer. >> reporter: the way things are shaping up as we await the president it looks like it will launch a new era of policy accord to the state department. the secretary of state rex tillerson spoke with the prime minister of pakistan and the foreign ministers of afghanistan and india to talk about how the countries can work together on aa on a broader regional strategy and trying to bring the taliban back to the table with the attacks in qatar doesn't work out. the president going to try to change that dynamic tonight. >> thank you, john. as we listen to "hail to the
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chief" let's head to fort myer, virginia and listen to the 45th president of the united states, donald trump. thank you. >> thank you very much, please be seated. vice president pence, secretary of the state tillerson, general dunford, deputy secretary shanahan and colonel dugan. most especially to you, the men and women of fort myer and every member of the united states military at home and abroad. we send our thoughts and prayers to the families of our brave sailors who were injured and lost after a tragic collision at sea as well as to those
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conducting the search and recovery efforts. i am here tonight to lay out our path forward in afghanistan and south asia. but before i provide the details of our new strategy i want to say a few words to the service members here with us tonight, to those watching from their posts and to all americans listening at home. since the founding of our republic, our country has produced a special class of heroes whose selflessness and courage and resolve is unmatched in human history. american patriots from every generation have given their last breath on the battlefield for our nation and for our freedom. through their lives and though
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their lives were cut short, in their deeds they achieved total immortality. by following the heroic example of those who fought to preserve our republic, we can find the inspiration our family needs to unify, to heal and to remain one nation under god. the men and women of our military operate as one team with one shared mission and one shared sense of purpose. they transcend every line of race, ethnicity, creed and color to serve together and sacrifice together in absolutely perfect cohesion. that is because all service members are brothers and sisters. they're all part of the same
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family. it's called the american family. they take the same oath, fight for the same flag and live according to the same law. they're bound together by common purpose, mutual trust and selfless devotion to our nation and to each other. the soldier understands what we, as a nation, often forget. that the wound inflicted upon a single member in our community is a wound inflicted upon us all. when one part much america hurts, we all hurt. and when one citizen suffers an injustice we all suffer together. loyalty to our nation demands loyalty to one another. love for america requires love
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for all of its people. when we open our hearts there's no place for bigotry and no tolerance for hate. the young men and women we send to fight our wars abroad deserve to return to a country that is not at war with itself at home. we cannot remain a force -- we are not at peace with each other. as we send our bravest to defeat our enemies overseas and we will always win. let us find the courage to heal our divisions within. let us make a simple promise to the men and women we asked to fight in our name that when they return home from battle they will find a country that has renewed the sacred bonds of love
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and loyalty that unite us together as one. thanks to the vigilance and skill of the american military and our many allies throughout the world, horrors on the scale of september 11th nobody can ever forget that, have not been repeated on our shores. but we must acknowledge the reality i am here to talk about tonight. nearly 16 years after september 11th attacks, after the extraordinary sacrifice of blood and treasure, the american people are wary of war without victory. nowhere is this more evident than in the war in afghanistan. the longest war in american history. 17 years. i share the american people's
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frustration. i also share their frustration over a foreign policy that has spent too much time, energy, money and most importantly lives trying to rebuild countries in our own image instead of pursuing our security interests above all other considerations. that is why shortly after my inauguration i directed secretary mattis to undergo strategy review of asia and afghanistan and my instinct was to pull out and historically i like following my instincts. but all my life i've heard decisions are much different when you sit behind the desk in
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the oval office. in other words, when your president of the united states. so i studied afghanistan in great detail and from every conceivable angle. after many meetings over many months we held our final meeting last friday at camp david with my cabinet and generals to complete our strategy. i arrived at three fundamental conclusions about america's core interests in afghanistan. first, our nation must seek an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the tremendous sacrifices that have been made especially the sacrifices of lives. the men and women who serve our nation in combat deserve a plan for victory. they deserve the tools they need
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and the trust they have earned to fight and to win. second, the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. 9/11, the worst terrorist attack in our history, was mrarplanned directed from afghanistan because that country was ruled by a government that gave comfort and shelter to terrorists. a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum that terrorists including isis and al-qaeda, would instantly fill just as happened before september 11. and as we know in 2011 america hastily and mistakenly withdrew
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from iraq. as a result, our hard gains slipped back into the hands of terrorist enemies. our soldiers watched as cities they fought for and bled to liberate and won were occupied by a terrorist group called isis. the vacuum we created by living too soon gave safe haven for isis to spread, to grow, recruit and launch attacks we cannot repeat the afghanistan mistake our leaders made in iraq. third and finally i concluded that the security threats we safe in afghanistan and our broader region are immense. today 20 u.s. designated foreign terrorists organizations are active in afghanistan and pakistan. the highest concentration in any
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region anywhere in the world. for its part pakistan often gives safe haven to agents of chaos, violence and terror. the threat is worse because pakistan and india are two nuclear-arm states whose tense relations tend to spiral in conflict and that could happen. no one denies we haven't inherited inheriteded inherited a troubling situation in afghanistan and south asia but we don't have the luxury of going back in time and making different or better decisions. when i was elect the president i was given a bad and complex hand. i knew what i was getting into big and intricate problems but one way or another the problems will get solved. i'm a problem solver. in the end we will win.
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we must address the reality of the world as it exists right now. the threats we face and the confronting of all of the problems of today. an extremely predictable consequences of a hasty withdrawal. we need look no further than last week's vial, vicious attack in barcelona to understand that terror groups will stop at nothing to commit the mass murder of innocent men, women and children. you saw it for yourself. horrible. as i outlined in my speech in saudi arabia, three months ago, america and our partners are committed to ridding terrorists and cutting their funding a.
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terrorists who slaughter innocent people will find no glory in this life or the next. they are nothing but thugs and criminals and predators and that's right, losers. working alongside our allies, we will break their will, dry up their recruitment, keep them from crossing our borders and yes, we will defeat them and we will defeat them handily. in afghanistan and pakistan, america's interests are clear, we must stop the resurgence of safe havens that enable terrorists to threaten america. we must prevent nuclear weapons and materials from coming into the hands of terrorists and being used against us or anywhere in the world for that matter. but to prosecute this war we
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will learn from history as a result of our comprehensive review afghanistan and south asia will change dramatically in the following ways. a core pillar of our new strategy is a shift from a time-based approach to one based on conditions. i've said it many times how counterproductive it is for the united states to announce in advance the dates we begin or end military options. we will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities. conditions on the ground not arbitrary timetable, will guide our strategy from now on. americas enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. i will not say when we are going to attack but attack we will.
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another fundamental pillar of our new strategy is the integration of all instruments of american power, diplomatic, economic and military towards a successful outcome. some day after an effective military efforts perhaps it will be possible to have a political settlement that includes elements of the taliban in afghanistan but no one will know if that will happen. america will continue its support for the afghan government and military as they confront the taliban in the field. ultimately, it's up for the people of afghanistan to take ownership of their future, to govern their society and to achieve an ever lasting peace. we are a partner and friend but we will not dictate to the
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afghan people how to live or how to govern their own complex society. we are not nation building again. we are killing terrorists. the next pillar of our new strategy is to change the approach and how to deal with pakistan. we can no longer being silent about pakistan's approach and other groups that pose a threat to the region and beyond. pakistan has much to gain from partnering with our effort in afghanistan. it has much to lose by continuing to harbor criminals and terrorists. in the past, pakistan has been a valued partner. our militaries have worked together against common enemies. the pakistani people have suffered greatly from terrorism and extremism.
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we recognize those contributions and those sacrifices. but pakistan has also sheltered the same organizations that try every single day to kill our people. we have been paying pakistan billions and billions of dollars at the same time they are housing the very terrorists that we are fighting. that will have to change and that will change immediately. no partnership can survive a country's harboring of militants terrorists who target u.s. military officials and it is time for pakistan to dedicate to civilization and order and peace. another critical part of the south asia strategic for america is to further develop its strategic partnership with india. the world's largest democracy
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and key security and economic partner of the united states. we appreciate india's important contributions to stability in afghanistan but india makes billions of dollars in trade with the united states and we want them to help us more with afghanistan. especially in the area of economic assistance. we are committed to pursuing our objectives for peace and security and the broader endopacific region. finally my administration will make sure you, the brave defenders of the american people, will have the necessary tools and rules of engagement to make this strategy work and work effectively and quickly. i've already lifted restrictions the previous administration placed on our war fighters that prevented the secretary of defense and our commanders in the field from fully and swiftly
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waging battle against the enemy. micro management from washington, d.c. does not win battles. they're drawing upon the judgment of wartime commanders and front line soldiers acting in real time with real authority and with a clear mission to defeat the enemy. that's why we will also expand authority for american armed forces to target the terrorists and criminal networks that sew violence and chaos throughout afghanistan. these killers need to know they have nowhere to hide. that no place is beyond the reach of american might and american arms. retribution will be fast and powerful as we lift restrictions and expand authorities.
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we are already seeing dramatic results in the campaign to defeat isis including the liberation of mosul in iraq. since my inauguration we have achieved record-breaking success in that regard. we will also maximize sanctions and other financial and law enforcement actions against these networks to eliminate their ability to export terror. when america commits its warrior to battle we must ensure they have every weapon to employ swift, decisive and overwhelming force. our troops will fight to win. we will fight to win. from now on victory will have a clear definition. attacking our enemies, obliterating isis, crushing al-qaeda, preventing the taliban from taking over afghanistan and stopping mass terror attacks
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before they emerge and we'll ask our allie and global partners to support with increases in line with ours and we are sure they will. we made it clear they must add much more money to our collective defense and they have done so. in this struggle the heaviest burden will continue to be born by the good people of afghanistan and their courageous armed forces. as the prime minister of afghanistan has promised, we are going to participate in economic development to help minimize the cost of the war to us. afghanistan is fighting to secure their country against the same enemy threaten us.
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the stronger the afghan security forces become, the less we will have to do. afghans will secure and build their own nation. and define their own future. we want them to succeed. but we will no longer use america military might to construct democracies in faraway lands or create democracies in our own image. those days are over. instead we'll work with allies and partners to protect our shared interests. we're not asking others to change their way of life but pursue common goals to allow our children live better and safer lives. this principled realism will decide our decisions moving forward. military power alone will not bring peace to afghanistan or stop the terrorist threat arising in that country. but strategically applied force aims to create the conditions
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for a political process to achieve a lasting peace. america will work with the afghan government as long as we see determine nage and progress. -- determination and progress. however, our progress is not unlimit and our support not a blank check. the government of afghanistan must carry their share of the military, political and economic burden. the american people expect to see real reforms, real progress and real results. our patience is not unlimited. we will keep our eyes wide open in abiding by the oath i took january 20, i will remain steadfast in protecting american lives and american interests. in this effort we will make common cause with any nation that chooses to stand and fight
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along side us along this global threat. terrorists take heed. america will never let up until you are dealt a lasting defeat. under my administration many of billions of dollars more is being spent on our military. this includes vast amounts on our nuclear arsenal and missile defense. in every generation we have faced down evil and we have always prevailed. we prevailed because we know who we are and what we are fighting for. not far from where we are tonight thousand of american patriots lay in eternal rest at arlington national cemetery. there's more courage, sacrifice and love in those hallowed
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grounds than in any other spot on the face of the earth. many of those who have fought and died in afghanistan enlisted in the months after september 11, 2001. they volunteered for a simple reason. they loved america and they have determined to protect her. now we must secure the cause for which they gave their lives. we must unite to defend america from its enemies abroad. we must restore the bonds of loyalty among our citizens at home and we must achieve an honorable and enduring outcome worthy of the enormous price that so many have paid. our actions and in months to come, all of them will honor the sacrifice of every fallen hero. every family who lost a loved one and every wounded warrior who shed their blood in defense
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of our great nation. with our resolve, we will ensure that your service and that your families will bring about the defeat of you're enemies and the arrival of peace. we will push onward to victory with power in our hearts, courage in our souls and everlasting pride up each and every one of you. may god bless our military and my god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. thank you. >> president donald trump speaking over 25 minutes at fort myer, virginia. starting his remarks with a clear reference to the fallout
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of racial violence in virginia. perhaps remarks to his remarks saying when one part of america hurts, we all hurt. and reflecting on the service and success of u.s. troops adding "we cannot remain a force for peace in the world if we're not at peace with each other." before then turning to a new strategy in afghanistan. >> indeed he did, brad. he spoke in serious hushed tones as he addressed this military crowd who could not respond to him with animated applause along those lines. he admitted in the past he planned to pulled but but said it's different when your behind the oval office and given the input from military and advisors. he says he feels very differently about it as he look
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at that from the seat of the president of the united states. he said he studied the struggle in afghanistan and there's such a high concentration of terrorists in this area it needs addressing and we can't back out. he said in no uncertain terms well , we will win and will not cut in run in the way he feels president obama dealt with the scourge. >> it was designed to put the squeeze on pakistan for harboring terrorists, helping the taliban and getting closer to india. that's pressuring pakistan one of their enemies historically, puts pressure on pakistan. the speech had parts where he demanded other countries pay more saying the days of constructing democracies in faraway lands are over and saying our commitment is not
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unlimited. our support is not a blank check. >> in many ways a trump version of the war in afghanistan. he said we will not write a blank check forever. in fact we won't tell you how long we'll be there for or how many troops will be on the ground but we're there to kilter ri -- kill terrorists. he said we're no longer going to nation build. we know henry mcmaster made the argument to him it can be a westernized country once again but that doesn't seem to be where the president comes down on this. it's a very presidential trump version of the input he has received. ? >> as the >> as the speech was happening i was getting texts from service members saying this is the message they wanted to hear the pride and courage and commitment to let them do their job.
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let's get reaction to the president's address. fox news military analyst jack keane and former vice chief of staff of the u.s. army. >> and jillian turner former national security staffer under president george bush and barack obama. jillian, your reaction. >> he now made the toughest decision as commander-in-chief to keep troops in harm's way. i think tonight he did an eloquent job and delivered that message to the american people in his own terms. he took care to say it flies in the face of my first instincts to keep americans in afghanistan but you know what, the position i've held in the last six months has tempered my views and i'll change the policy in order to
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reflect that. one of the important things he said is we're not nation building, we're killing terrorist. that's the trump doctrine we were looking for. that more than anything else i've heard him same on the issue encapsulates his view on the american role in the middle east today. the other things, quickly, bret, is we're no longer broadcasting our plans and shifted to a position of racketing to the situation on the ground. >> the difference in this speech and president obama with a time line set and numbers set and critics always said by that the taliban operates in calendars and clocks and waited until that moment. >> i'm impressed. we finally have a commander-in-chief who spokes honestly not only to the troops in front them and i love the way he speaks to them and expresses genuine feelings for them and ends on them and you know those
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are serious feelings he's talking about and spoke honestly to the american people. we've had a political deception for such a long time dealing with afghanistan. you put your finger on it, president obama when mccrystal and petraeus comes before him he gives them 25% less troops than the minimum they request and then makes a speech at west point that he's going to pull the troops out in 15 months. those two decisions, not giving them enough troops and pulling them out doomed afghanistan to the non-winnable situation that brought president trump to the rostrum tonight. >> i covered the pentagon and white house and traveled to afghanistan and iraq a dozen each times, we've heard these numbers before. we heard that we are going to get the afghans to fight on their own before. so for skeptics of this plan,
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however, well delivered or packaged, how do you say it's going to change with 4,000 troops on the ground in afghanistan? >> well, 4,000 troops if those are the numbers -- we think they are, people are speculating. the president hasn't told us what they are. it's helpful but it's not decisive and we can't play games about that. what's he's committed himself to which his predecessors have never done it is pakistan. he says if i can't persuade you diplomatically and economically i'm going to target these people. he shouldn't say it but i'm telling you that's what he means. when he says this is going to start changing immediately he's dead serious. we have a commander-in-chief who understand n understan
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understan understands the reality of the war and has flexibility and the courage to change his mind in the face of new and compelling evidence. i think this president has done that and stepped up to this thing tonight in a way i commend him for. >> we heard a lot of this week, jillian about the difference between the bannon wing and the white house and the globalists. he went out basically in a retorical view saying this is on you now this is the globalist version of what the president is carrying out and make the commitment. and jeff sessions saying this not what we ran on. >> it's certainly not what the president ran on. part of what he has shown the american people tonight is he is willing to learn the really hard lessons of being commander-in-chief and make decision fly in the face of the
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what he said in the campaign because he believes it's the right thing to do for the country. that's something presidents are reluctant and loathed to do. they think about re-election and poll rate ings. to change a core foundation principle you carried on the campaign is very difficult to do. i agree with him. i think it's the right thing to do. every military analyst today will tell you unilaterally withdrawing from afghanistan would be a mistake. we would waste many of the gains and investment we've made in the country. when it comes to particular numbers there's no great options on the table. nobody wants to see 100,000 new troops go to the country, nobody wants to see us withdraw so you have to shake out somewhere in between and that's probably what he's doing. >> stand by. >> we have live team coverage of reaction to the president's new afghanistan plan as he has just unveiled. jennifer griffen is at the
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pentagon for what this means for the military. first up, john roberts joining this along with us. good evening to you, john. >> reporter: martha, bret, good evening to you. an hour and a half before the president spoke we spoke with senior administration official who's put more context to what the president was about to say. the main driving force of what the president revealed tonight is to try to convince the taliban they cannot win on the battlefield and they're only hope of surviving is to come to to the table and negotiate some sort of political settlement with the government in kabul. at the same time it looks like the united states can't win decisively on the battlefield ever. listen to how the president put it a short time ago. >> some day after an effective military effort perhaps it will be possible to have a political settlement that includes
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elements of the taliban in afghanistan but nobody knows if or when that will ever happen. america will continue its support for the afghan government and the afghan military as they confront the taliban in the field. >> so the president there saying at the same time there could be a political settlement. we'll keep pressuring the taliban to convince them they can't win on the battlefield. rex tillerson today phoned the prime minister of india and the foreign minister of pakistan as well as afghanistan. it's why the vice president telephoned the vice president today and why they're getting very involved in what they're getting involved in an integrated regional strategy it's important to point out the president is making this condition-based and not
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time-based. that can get you in a trap as well because if the conditions don't change you have an open-ended commitment. the president wants to see the afghanistan government be serious about this. if they have serious about it, he will continue his commitment. if they're not serious about it the president may decide to take another course. bret, martha. >> thank you, john. >> jennifer griffen is at the pentagon and joins us to talk about the ramifications. good evening. >> good evening, bret. this was not designed to be a troop deployment speech. the president realized u.s. troops cannot leave afghanistan. those kind of vacuums lead to terrorist safe havens. >> the consequences of a rapid exit are both predictable and unacceptable. a hasty withdrawal would create a vacuum of terrorists including
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isis and al-qaeda would instantly fill just as happed before september 11. >> the mix of u.s. forces on the ground will not change in any dramatic way. the president did not announce u.s. troops would be replaced with contractors as had been discussed. what's different is the pace and scope of overall pressure on this campaign. already this year airstrikes are up 181%, 1,984 bombs have been dropped so far this year. remember just a few years ago the u.s. had 100,000 troops in afghanistan and the taliban didn't negotiate then. secretary mattis issued a statement from jordan where he's travelling calling on the chairman of the joint chiefs to implement the president's strategy. the president said it's not a blank check. right now the government of
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afghanistan only controls 60% of the country. >> jennifer griffen live. thank you. >> let's get more reaction to the president's address to the nation. south carolina senator lindsay graham joins us. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> you were listening to the president. what do you think? >> i think there'll be a lot of bipartisan support in congress for this. i'm proud and relieved that president trump made a national security decision and listened to the president and shows the will to stand up to radical islam. i'm relieved he didn't take the advice to withdraw which would be zras -- disastrous. it's a very inspiring speech and i can guarantee you a lot of people in congress will be behind the president. >> you have not been afraid to be critical of the president
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been on the back end of the president's twitter account and you were open to addressing the charlottesville situation. >> given the speech in charlottesville we probably wouldn't have had much of an entanglement. it's not about charlottesville tonight. it's about going forward in afghanistan. winning a war you can't afford to lose. you know how i feel hearing my commander-in-chief saying we'll win. the gloves are off inside afghanistan. i was in afghanistan in july with senator mccain and i heard from soldier after soldier how frustrating it is to see a terrorist and you can't will them. and we also put pakistan on notice if somebody kills an american soldier in afghanistan they go to pakistan, we're holding you accountable and coming after the terrorists no matter where they go. so the game has changed and the gloves are off inside pakistan. india can be helpful in a
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diplomatic surge and i'm relieved with the plan and proud of my president. >> he spoke of micro managing and that's now how he wanted to handle the military engagement. your thoughts on that and communication which we know there was not a whole lot of between the obama administration and generals on the ground. >> number one he delegated to the generals the secretary of defense and the joint chief of staff to make military decision. i can say this, general obama was a lousy general. president trump understands secretary mattis is good at what he does. president obama announced we were going in and out on the same speech. it was a disaster from the beginning. he's trusting his military. he's giving them the authority president obama never gave them and we're going to make our
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decisions based on conditions on the ground not on arbitrary conditions on the ground and president obama was a lousy general and that's part of the mess we're inheriting. >> you know politicians are like candidate trump was. he said he's evolved behind the oval office desk but one politician is senator rand paul saying first and most important is the cost to our troops and deaths and injurieses and unnecessary deployment are the most important why you don't go to wars that aren't necessary. then comes the taxpayer we spent nearly $5 trillion in the middle east wars in the past 16 years. would we not be better off less
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in debt and i strongly disagree with the administration's action. if my friends and colleagues want to continue to war afghanistan congress should vote on it. i'll insist they do it this fall and i'll be leading the charge for no. your reaction to no. >> i'll be leading the charge for yes. i trust general dunford and kelly and mattis more than general paul. general paul's been wrong about everything in this war. it's that kind of thinking that got us into 9/11. you may be tired of fighting the terrorists, they're not afraid of fighting you. on september 11 we did the rand paul way and didn't have a dime of aid going to afghanistan and they hit out anyway. this is a war between radical islam and the rest of us. they hate our guts and not going to stop fighting us until we kill them and stabilize afghanistan. here's the good news, after 22 visits to afghanistan, people are not buying what the taliban
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are selling and al-qaeda and isil are selling. millions of girls are in school, the infant mortality rate is going up and 6 million afghan and as large as died last year and 14 americans. they don't want what radical islam is selling. it's in our national interest to help them. i'm willing to vote on it. i don't think we have to but i will. we have to appropriate the money. i'm on the appropriations committee and armed services committee. i'll fight senator paul tooth and nail to make sure we don't lose afghanistan like we lost iraq. it's what president obama did in iraq was to leave against sound military advice. president trump has the smarts and moral courage to listen to their advice rather than they can it political way. i'm proud he did.
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unlike president obama president trump is listening to his generals. to my colleagues in congress you will own a no vote. the next 9/11 will be your fault not president trump's fault if you shoot down the plan because it's a solid plan. it will turn things around in pakistan. it's putting them on notice. i have confidence. work but i won't be easy. and to president trump you showed the will to stand up to radical islam but my friend, they're going to come after us and try to break your will. don't let them. stick with it. >> lindsay graham, senator from south carolina. good to have you with us tonight, senator. when we come back we'll weigh in. >> you're watching special coverage of the president's address to the nation on afghanistan. we'll be right back. >> we will defeat them and
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>> we're a partner and friend but will not dictate to the
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afghan people how to govern their own complex society. we are not nation building again. we are killing terrorists. >> welcome dana perino. politically the president has had a tough couple of weeks. we saw a different tone from had him this evening. do you think this will start to turn the page in where he's been the last couple of days? >> he says he always has a fight politically even going back two years in the campaign. tonight setting politics aside is what he did and that was important because he was speaking directly in front of military members. it's not a crowd or cheering like we'll have tomorrow night in arizona. by all accounts the special forces and veterans of the
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afghan war love tonight's speech. they appreciated it. they felt he was speaking directly to him. for those who felt there wasn't new policy i have to point out this idea that pakistan is now put on notice is really important. the president leaned towards india. also very important for the region. that is different. and the president sort of backed off the idea there would be talks of the taliban. maybe there will be but that's been rumored in the press to be out there. he didn't say that tonight. it was a great speech and basically what he decided was leaving was worse than staying. >> the key point is about politics. i think the president surrounded himself with generals and listening to generals. he got rid of steve bannon who was oppose to further buildup in afghanistan unless you put private forces in. the president is now clearly
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turning from his own base to that extent. he's a guy in january of 2013 said we're wasting money. why don't we use that money to rebuild the usa not afghanistan. now he says as president, he's going against his instincts which is to withdraw but doesn't lay out for us the military objective and it's obvious to every american we're there to win what that victory would mean. at what point do we say there's a stable government in kabul that can be trusted. at what point do we say india and pakistan is cooperating. instead it strikes me as open-ended. i'm all for winning. i just want to know exactly what the commitment involves. i think he by putting 4,000 additional troops on the ground that's what the reports are in the neighborhood of 4,000. i don't think even his strongest
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supporters feel it's efficient if you're talking about doing the job. >> dana, once you set the marker out there he'll have a responsibility to continue to update the american people and let us know how it's going and what the commitment is going through. >> when i worked for president bush he said you have to repeatedly and regularly talk to the american people about the war. president obama did not do that. president trump did that tonight and think he has to sustain that going forward. >> dana, juan. thank you. tune in for a special edition of "the five" tonight and we'll have more thoughts when we come back.
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can we do that? we can do that. >> wrapping up our coverage and a mom saying my oldest son died there and my second son is there now. there are many good people there. >> the president spoke directly to the gold star mom and all those who have made tremendous successes through the course of this very long war. in fact he said none would have done so in vain and that's his commitment moving forward.
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>> reaction positive the president's own party. "hanni "hannity" continues and a special edition of "the five." >> welcome to "hanity." president trump offered a new agenda for afghanistan. >> he stood where thousands of brave men and women who fought and died for our country are laid to rest. the speech was delivered perfectly to the right tone and caden

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