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developments that we are making some progress. 196 points. we're going to be covering it tomorrow. the fallout of what there could be of it from the president's speech in arizona tonight. >> kat: hello, everyone. i am kat timpf with eboni k. williams and brian kilmeade. this is "the fox news specialists" ." president trump arriving at a marine corps air station in arizona short time ago. the president will be meeting with u.s. border officials where you can bet the border wall topic will come up. the presidents stop in yuma is the opening act before a big campaign style rally. major protests are also expected to take place. tensions over his visit have phoenix's mayor. >> what it was announced the visit was going to come, i do
not feel it was the right time to do it. to close after charlottesville, a difficult situation not only for the people in charlottesville but for all americans. that's why a campaign style rally, i didn't think it was appropriate. i thought at the time and i still do that that delay. we don't want to cancel the visit with the delay of the presidential visit was an appropriate request and would be an appropriate action by the white house. i am under no illusion that the president will take my advice. >> kat: president trump is not budging. big surprise there. doesn't say all right, i won't. >> brian: i don't know if they know this or not but he can't stop being president publicly because they had an incident two weeks ago. i think the mayor is out of control even requesting that he not show up. >> eboni: you can have strong
feelings. i certainly did around charlottesville and the the presidents reaction. the request i thought was ridiculous. we are not doing things on timetables. >> kat: he admitted he knew president trump will come anyway so it was a political point thing. >> eboni: i think he got zero. >> kat: let's meet today's specialists. she's on the board of directors for the independent women's forum. she's the only female physician has been a member of congress, and she specializes in finding homes for pets in need. she is a mother of seven, including five cats. nan hayworth this year here. a lot of cats. she's a lawyer, author, columnist. liberal political analyst who appears readily on the fox news channel and she's a native of new zealand who specializes in being mistaken for a aussi. her words not mine. danielle mclaughlin is here.
>> danielle: i agree with eboni that this is something that the president has every right to do. i pray protesters on both sides of the issue tamp it down a little bit. we saw the drama the terrible things that happen in charlottesville. let's not repeat that mistake. every single individualized takers possibility for what they say what they do. >> brian: law enforcement had plenty of heads up. look what boston did last week. as opposed to what charlottesville did the week before. on the inside, i'm curious to see if the contact is going to be tax reform from a infrastructure, afghanistan policy. what do you think as opposed to "lock her up." i think we can do without that and see what the president building on the said last night which was an excellent speech. >> nan: i couldn't agree more with all of you. the president did have a great speech last night. it was a unifying speech. and he used the scene last night
of our nation's defense, and defensive freedom for the world, defense against terrorism, to remind us all of calm linked the waters. that we are all unified in this. together we can live in peace and harmony and we will be a force for good there by. i think you're right, brian, he asked of -- he has to promote his agenda. >> brian: when you said "i'm absolutely right, brian." build on that. >> eboni: we practice that a few times preshow. in all seriousness, you have the president, the signature issue of immigration, his homebase so to speak, a place to pivot too because it bolsters and gets the energy of the base. i don't mean that in a disparaging way. i think that moment, it was a rough week for the white house last week for a few things.
charlottesville and the exit of steve bannon. the president's ability to control the narrative, and he gets senator going exactly what he wants to come i think the timing on that part makes a lot. brian, i think many people have been doing that rallying cry. makes all the sense of the world to me to go to tax reform, infrastructure, i'm hoping for the sake of our country. >> brian: there's been no tweets about anything other than afghanistan. thanking everyone for coming out last night, quiet day. then talking about immigration, talking about the rally. i think the impact of this new chief of staff is finally taking root. >> kat: this rally will be a huge rally. hey, look, i know a lot of people had an issue with the way i handle things last week. but when it comes to his core base of supporters, they support in the of white men are going to be out there and they're going to be excited to gather cheering, he's going to be talking about the wall. and saying my supporters to have my back. >> brian: i hope he does not
go after jeff flake or john mccain. even though they've gone against his agenda -- go >> eboni: good luck with that. it >> brian: i they agree on other things. john mccain said good job in afghanistan. lindsey graham, good job. i disagree with you on charlottesville. i think the president can deal with it. >> eboni: >> eboni: for as muchs people want to say mccain and flake. every vote does matter. at some point, and the legislative points on the border going to have to come to pass for president trump. otherwise he runs the risk of being a really good height man. if you can't legislate effectively, then 2018 becomes a different issue. >> danielle: use the bully pulpit but he didn't get into the weeds. didn't sell it to republicans or democrats. >> brian: was kind of asked
not to. >> danielle: we had a jazz band in the rose garden after the house passed its bill and then everything devolved. i think he needs to get back on the issues and talk to all of america. one thing that was great about last night is that he did talk to all americans. my concern is that this rally tonight just appeals to the base. >> brian: because there is no prompter? >> nan: the dow went up today. i caught the prompter bump. i mean it in the best possible sense for the president. he shows he's absolutely capable of crafting a message because he won't say anything he wouldn't approve of. he crafted that message and delivered it just right. >> brian: here's what i would do. instead of going after senator jeff flake, senator mccaskill, senator joe manchin. what are you doing?
you are in a blue/red state. pressure these democrats up for reelection that agree with him more than their base allows them to. >> danielle: carrots not sticks. it would be nice to see the discourse around what you think you should achieve. done in a way that's a little bit less dramatic and less negative. model the behavior we are meant to talk about with our children. use the carrot. >> eboni: this is where your legislative advice becomes handy. immigration, health care, more divisive than others. if you go to infrastructure, tax form, he positions without quite smartly to pressure those kind of purplish red state democrats to save you by end of this type of opportunity for your constituents, what does that make you? he can make that argument. >> danielle: democrats have
always been for infrastructure investment. we have a republican presidential wants that too. you can't argue on that. and middle-class tax cuts. >> nan: he's going to need every vote. >> kat: are rally like this is when he is most likely to go off topic. when you're surrounded by people who know love you, you do act a little more quirky. you feel more comfortable. you say some stuff, like, they will be okay with it. >> eboni: that's true, and i think that temptation is. i agree, brian, you have to resist the temptation to be baited by the moment. >> brian: sheriff joe arpaio getting a pardon is not going to happen. >> eboni: ten night. >> brian: he's not on the roster, not on the program. he will not be allowed to do it. the thing i would think is interesting is he did something yesterday that was fascinating.
he brought some introspection. he said i came into office saying i'm pulling out of afghanistan by the more i thought about it, the more i looked at it, didn't make any sense. i change my mind. i would mind if he came out today and said repeal and replace went really well. let's see if we can do better with tax reform. get a laugh from people. showing a little bit of vulnerability. he's great at punching you in the mouth but what about backing up and showing some vulnerability. >> nan: this is a man who is deep compassion. there is so much good and that's all. everyone is ever worked with the president, i know these folks personally, say he's generally good. >> eboni: you are not the first person was worked with him to say that but for those of us who have not had that opportunity, what could you say to the president to have him show some of that side. i take you at your word but some of us haven't seen it. >> nan: i think honestly the emphasis is on the president
being a moral leader. he's been a man of action throughout his life, and i think -- that doesn't mean he hasn't been a more later but now is the time as president, he understands this is a different role and he has said that. he has said that as much in his speech last night. he said look, i'm learning. my mind is open. and i think he could keep emphasizing. my mind is open. my heart is open. that positive side which we know he has, i think everybody come he should be looking to everybody here. i >> kat: i don't know if you will make the self-deprecating trumpcare joke in arizona. he will be more tempted to bring john mccain into it. >> brian: a little bit of humor. i want to say one thing about the donald trump i know before he became president of the united states. the one axiom i don't have many of them bite you can judge somebody's character.
he treats people he needs nothing from great. i watched him with the apprentice crew, the makeup artists. i have watched him do these shoots when geraldo was on the apprentice. >> eboni: i saw you on that. >> brian: it was a good cause. what that's when i realized he's a good guy. what john stuart, he's an evil person. he's not. >> kat: >> eboni: we heard thisd hillary clinton. people who know her and worked with her say she was funny, say she was born. i never saw that but when candidates or elected officials can't translate those qualities. >> danielle: they become caricatures of themselves. trump is in a very public life
and people are doing that. we should be mindful to not fall into that trap. >> kat: he makes it harder for himself that he needs to be with some of the things he says. again, i don't know impersonally, so i am noy to know what it would be like to know him personally. but does make it harder. >> eboni: he needs more of you and people like you that know him and understand those components of him to be out there conveying that side of hi him. >> nan: have been happy to speak of his great qualities. >> kat: i think he gets tempted by how much fun he has baiting the media. he will think and his head, okay, if i said that the media will go nuts. should i? before it gets to "shaddai" it's already out of his mouth. then it's a terrible week.
he felt like he had to say that. it's fun for him but it does make things a lot more difficul difficult. >> brian: the best closures in baseball have short-term memory. you can be the best picture and then blow it all. like mariano rivera did. i've never seen a guy get up and turn the page as as president trump. this guy does not worry about yesterday. he's already off the next day. >> nan: but he knows. speech last night, the tenor he took. the words he said, there was a somewhat subtle difference but it was a material difference in the way he acknowledge certain things. he is demonstrating he knows how to move forward. >> eboni: he gets the narrative. >> brian: make it harder for msnbc and cnn to come up with the format. don't provide the fodder. make them go into their archive archives. >> kat: president trump unveiled his new strategy for
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>> eboni: president trump debuting a new strategy for the war in afghanistan last night. he didn't specify expected troop level increases or timelines but he made clear his ultimate goals. >> from now on, victory will have a clear definition. attacking our enemies, obliterating isis, crushing al qaeda, preventing the taliban from taking over afghanistan and stopping mass terror attacks against americans before they emerge. >> eboni: critics say the president was too vague on the details. secretary of state rex tillerson pushed back this afternoon while also putting pakistan on notice. >> the only way we can defeat an enemy that is as nimble and as k.g. tactically is the 70, we have to be as cagey and tactical as they are.
we have put people on notice. if you are harboring and providing safe haven to terrorists, be forewarned. we are going to engage with those providing safe haven and asked them to change what they are doing and help us to help them. in my view, the best, the greatest benefactor other than the afghan people themselves to achieving peace and stability in afghanistan are the people of pakistan. >> eboni: congresswoman, you see the secretary of state being clear and direct. almost stronger to pakistan. >> nan: pakistan has had a lot of challenges in its friendship with the united states. after we left afghanistan, after they helped us throughout the taliban the first time a couple docket to go. it's been difficult for them but clearly they have harbored malefactors including osama bin laden. i think it's appropriate to
offer the prospect of both carrot and stick. we have to have a determined military advantage in afghanistan. we are not directing our firepower toward pakistan but we are definitely expecting them to stand with us. and get a line. if they do, there are economic advantages. it >> eboni: i was one of those people who was looking to last nights speech to articulate a clear objective. instead -- the people said they felt that. he talked about killing terrorists making sure we had no more threats here in terms of terrorism. but he also said we were fighting to win. i'm still unclear as to what winning looks like for us in afghanistan. your take on that. >> danielle: i don't think you're the only one and i take the same position. this is a 16 year war. what does winning look like? a government, fully functioning democracy. that could be decades offered any president estimate the germination at what point do we
leave and is afghanistan the right place? do we stay for decades and decades? we have troops all over europe. they do that we have still troops in 40 years. but for a president who wants to make sure he is filling campaign promises, i think he dialed it back a little bit. >> eboni: brian talks about the vulnerability and humility of a moment where president president trump says now that i'm in the oval, being briefed a different level, i'm kind of reconsidering some of the things i set on the campaign trail. does that sound like a logical evolution around the issue, or is it a flip-flop? >> kat: it's both. it seems anybody, no matter how much of a dove they are on the trail becomes hawkish once they get to the oval office. they don't stand up to the military-industrial complex.
i've been consistent. i did not appreciate it when obama did it and i am not appreciating it now. staying involved here when it's been such a mess. i think we need to get out. however, i think it's hilarious to see nancy pelosi releasing a statement saying that we need to get out, a lot of democrats saying we need to get out. you guys nominated hillary clinton, who was by far the most hawkish person. she plays an instrument very well, first chair in any concert hall, called the wardroom throughout -- war drama. to see democrats criticizing him on not getting out is absurd because they had a chance to offer their answer to foreign policy issues and they offered a warmonger. >> brian: we never put 3 million people into theater. now up to 6,000 or 12,000.
let's focus on the thing. the problem is not the afghanistan private army. the taliban and private army. the problem is the 20 different terror organizations there. you can't rationalize it, leaving a place were 20 separate organizations have as their doctor and wipe out the west. that's what they are going to be doing. the important thing he said is i'm getting india involved and rules of engagement will change. i'm putting captains, lieutenants, colonels in charge. tell me how it goes. i will wait here. that's what we needed. >> eboni: brian, could that also look like a 20, 30, 40 year occupation? >> brian: do you take a sniper off the roof if you know they are coming out a terrorist. we are putting a sniper on the roof. >> kat: the question candidate trump asked was why does that have to be our job? which is question i agree with. >> brian: the taliban, you are
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>> brian: the aftermath of the violence protest in charlottesville boiling over into anger and chaos during a city council meeting. >> you have been called to order. you will have to be removed. we are going to suspend the meeting. [shouting] >> why did you think you could walk in here and do business as usual after what happened? >> the resistance was the medics
who saved lives. >> that girl, i knew that girl. you let her get murdered. kkk and neo-nazis can come here and say whatever they want but a citizen from here can't. that's ridiculous. you just dragged out three people because they were expressing their freedom of speech. >> brian: the city council's first meeting since they charlottesville white nationalist rally tendons go. the city council voted unanimously to shroud the two statues of robert e. lee and stonewall jackson. morning heather heyer, killed in the car attack. is that enough? >> nan: the city of charlottesville and the citizens of charlottesville have the right to determine who can hold an event in their parks, how they deal with their public
monuments. i think it's entirely reasonable to shroud these symbols, even robert e. lee himself, generally said after the war was over that they should not memorialize what, that cause, so to speak. i think he abhorred it in many ways. unfortunately, you know, this city allowed disassembly to take place, did not adequately protect the public. >> brian: they were there. they just didn't do anything. >> nan: the police, either rules of engagement or because they do not plan properly, they exposed all the citizens, everybody who was a citizen of this community, they exposed them to violence. >> danielle: this statue was
erected in 1924, so it was of the gym crow statues. until the town decides what to do, and an appropriate way of signifying the fact that somebody died here. somebody died the statues themselves are revisionist history because they glorify treasonous behavior, seditious behavior but they also were erected during jim crow, during the civil rights to suppress african-americans as they were making gains. >> eboni: i think why this conversation becomes even more difficult is because what we are really doing is conflating two issues. there's the issue of the confederate monuments in the statues and whether or not they should be torn down or moved to museums. that needs to be agreed upon at the local level. then there is the issue of the
complete and utter failure of the responsibilities of the municipalities to protect the people of this city. we knew they knew far in advance that permits are given. it's the constitutional right. you've got to be prepared. >> brian: just like the westborough baptist church throwing up at a soldier's funeral. >> kat: it blows my mind to see how many people, they say okay, we want no free speech for bigots, no free speech for this person or that person and the constitution says they do and they should. any laws that can be used to silence bigots could be used to silence you one day. it's something i will never understand, how people on the far left will say they want the government to be able to control speech with more restrictions but they also think that the current leader of our government is a fascist. how do those views make sense together? i don't understand. >> brian: you think covering up stonewall jackson and robert
e. lee is the ticket, it's not because there were protests all through the night, defilement of major memorials. if you look at some of the raw footage of the four hour hearing yesterday, they were screaming for the removal of jefferson, washington. this is the beginning of chaos and politicians trying to make the most of it. >> nan: mob rule we can't have. >> eboni: noel, we can't. there's a legitimate conversation around where the statues need to be. he needs to be separate and apart from an attack on constitutional rights. >> brian: eboni, would you also say don't do anything because the skinheads want you to. >> eboni: i would say don't be reactionary. >> brian: don't worry about the white nationalist. do what the people of charlottesville wants. if you want an educated look, i would like people, black and white, historians to talk about what went into it. they want to take down christopher columbus from
columbus square in manhattan. >> eboni: wait until we get to "wait, what," i have an siding update. >> brian: i would not be surprised if one of us ended up with a monument in our memory. let me tell you what's coming up over the next 25 minutes. or at least next. a petition to label nt for -- antifa as a terrorist organization. don't go away. is unconditional. even at 6am. nature's bounty melatonin. we're all better off healthy. nature's bounty knows healthy cholesterol starts in your gut. so we made cardio-health, an innovative way to support healthy cholesterol, containing lrc, a probiotic strain that helps you metabolize dietary cholesterol. because we all want to be healthy for whatever comes next.
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against the radical far left group. any petition gaining more than 100,000 signatures requires an official response from the white house. how far can the trump administration go? a lot of people, they have only seen videos. as part of my man on the street work i've been doing, i've gone to these protests. i've talked to some of these people and they will try to tell me to my face. they told me at a rally in d.c. "i don't like this rally because there's been no destruction of property and we like to destroy property" or new york. in d.c., they were laying in the streets. there were older black women desperately trying to get through in their car and the meter was going up and they were refusing to get up. they were hurling obscenities, saying horrible things about the police. the ones that i've encountered are not the kind, social justice type of people. they are anarchists, exactly. they don't want government, period. >> brian: when your uniform is a black stocking cap in your
dress like that you do these things, if they show up in phoenix and start creating havoc, is the president supposed to complement them? ridicule them? this is the type of event they usually show up at. >> kat: they call themselves antifascists but their tactics are very fascist. i don't know if anyone has told them hey, you kind of look like fascists. congresswoman, is it calling a terrorist organization, is it gone too far? >> nan: they may fail to meet the legal definition. it's clear these people are want to be domestic if their object is violence, they are probably not even organized in their minds to be anarchists. they just want to go out and cause trouble. their flag does resemble the nazi flag. black, white, red.
it's frightening. it's fascist. it's not american. they have a right to express themselves but the way they are doing it is wrong in many, many ways. >> eboni: you have a right to express any point of view in this country. that's one of the things that makes us such a beautiful three place what you do not have a right to criminal behavior. you do not have a right to hurt people. you do not have the right to destroy property that is not yours. i have to say, what really gets under my skin and probably why you're all seeing some emotion around my response to this is many people confuse this with social justice activism. they confuse these groups with representing people who really want have a conversation or dialogue. i want to make it plain that that right there has nothing to do with social justice. >> kat: absolutely. they often go to these rallies but they are their own group and they just want to destroy things. >> nan: >> danielle: absolutely.
the definition of terrorism is an act of violence in furtherance of a political goal. i think you can make the archivist that this is terrorist activity. the u.s. government, department of state, specifies terrorist organizations that are foreign. even the kkk is not defined here as a terrorist organization. practically speaking, it's not what happened but the list -- they need to stand up and say not on our watch. not in pursuit of our goals. >> brian: i would love for people, some democrats to respond to this organization. demonstrating and acting like this. throwing things through windows. have chuck schumer or harry reid come out of retirement and say that doesn't represent me and i'm a little bit embarrassed. >> eboni: i think democrats and the actual social justice progressive left should do that. the actual conservatives, my republican friends who are heartbroken to see their party hijacked by nazism and white
supremacy, if both groups took control of their message, would be in a better place. >> nan: i would like to see george soros stop funding organizations. >> brian: they need money for those outfits. >> nan: it deserves attention because so many people on the left -- >> kat: or someone can tell them that their black costumes are the product of capitalism. straight ahead, last night's cleveland browns-new york giants game becomes the seeing of the largest national anthem protest yet.
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the players explained what sparked their protest. >> and lot of racial, social injustice was going on in the world right now. we decided to take a knee, pray for the people who've been affected, pray for the world in general. >> i wanted to take the opportunity with my team and during the to pray. for our country and also to draw attention to the fact that we have work to do. that's why i did what i did. >> eboni: a couple things. i know this is dicey and sensitive. it riles up a lot of issues. whether you are disagree or agree with the fact that some of these players are taking neo not standing for the anthem, in light of the previous segment where we saw anarchy and violence. as they are at least something in your opinion to be said for a peaceful demonstration of one's point of view. some of these players in prayer.
i understand people want them to stand and i get that but they are express himself in a peaceful way. >> brian: there's many ways to protest. you have a national anthem. we all agree we are americans. you are at work. you don't stand up in the middle of our workplace and start crating chaos. >> eboni: they are not creating chaos. >> brian: that's chaos, believe me. you off 12 players think that when the national anthem is playing you're supposed to salute your country, it's okay to take a knee. here's the ramifications. they are ignoring it. >> eboni: they are praying. >> brian: you stand with your hand over your hearts. the ripple effect is 9-year-old kids in texas laying down during the national anthem because colin kaepernick -- >> eboni: we are not talking about colin kaepernick. >> brian: that's where it all started. >> eboni: i need to pivot to you, nan. at what point are we so
concerned with the police annoy the protest looked fit offends our sensibilities. i was fact, a lot of people are offended by it. are we going to police the way some people choose to peacefully express their view? >> nan: you're right about free speech. however the nfl is a private employer. and if any team wants to require their players to stand, i would favor the owners who do. let me suggest this for these players because social justice is the quintessential american motivator. that's why this country was founded. so that government would treat its justly. we have striven to do that through generations. visit a va hospital. visit the men and women who sacrificed health and became close to sacrificing their live lives. >> brian: i think the military -- if you can't agree
fundamentally. if you can't agree we are on the same page as a country, there's the problem. do that before the game or after the game. ratings will drop. >> eboni: but that has nothing to do -- the nfl as a business will bear the financial consequences. that's fine. >> brian: so will those players. >> eboni: that is fine as well. i civilly have a serious problem we start policing because we don't like the way a particular person is protesting. we say it because the substance of the argument but at what point is that an attack on free speech as well? >> kat: they do have the freedom to do that another people have the freedom to say i don't like it. the reason they can do that is because we do have that freedom in this country. in other countries, you would literally get arrested, probably killed. and i think it's great that we have that freedom. >> eboni: many players consult with veterans to find out -- i understand. i want to make a statement so
they consult with veteran. veterans have said the more respect thing to do is to take indian offer a prayer. >> danielle: they are taking a knee in prayer. we talked about free speech and antifa in the previous segment. free speech is not without consequent this. if private organizations wants to censure them are fire them. that's up to them. they have that right, nfl players can take any. >> brian: and our free speech is totally out of line, totally inappropriate. you are taking the lead from a guy on a whim who sat down during a preseason game and now they are protesting because he doesn't have a job as a backup quarterback somewhere. this is all from kaepernick. >> eboni: that's unfair. you are connecting a lot of dots. >> brian: this is inexcusable. there are americans. they stand during the national anthem. >> eboni: they don't have to be american on your terms. >> brian: we can't agree to stand here for the
national anthem. >> eboni: we can't agree we have a right to express our views. speech and what about individual liberty? aren't we founded on the notion -- >> nan: i think it would be highly salutary if they all stood. it sends the right message that we respect and cherish the sacrifices that our forebears made. >> eboni: i think it's a right message to show compassion and empathy for your fellow teammates. whenever they feel they want to express it. >> brian: pay football. that's what you're paid for. >> eboni: you get to do what you want is a free american. we need to say good by to our specialists. thank you for joining us. up next, it's "wait, what." don't go away. ♪
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>> brian: it's time for the last segment. we are calling it "wait, what." i will kick things off. as american as apple pie and baseball. they might be sold to china. the great wall motor company interested in buying it from chrysler fiat. now they are going to take their $20 billion then buy jeep and make it somewhere else. that's 14,000 jobs. jeep has to be born in america. still supplies the military. the president has to step in and
stop it. >> kat: i have become very interested in the fashion choices people make when they are committing crimes or when they know they are about to commit a crime. i have this one from south kansas. we have a picture? he wrote "i'm broke, baby" this guy gets a b for funny. he gets a f for practicality because she try to be more inconspicuous. he gets extra credit for providing the motive on his shirt. i like to see people helping law enforcement. >> eboni: i like a merit-based system. a good friend of mine was at west point over the weekend because they were honoring the first person of color to have a monument erected on the campus of west point. benjamin davis. there is a ribbon cutting ceremony. it's a big, powerful moments. we talk about less free speech.
this gives us more. >> brian: that's it. thanks for having me fill in. as far as i know, "special report" is next. i hope bret baier is wearing a brand-new suit and tie. it's going to be a great brand-new show. thanks for watching. >> bret: this is a fox news alert. i'm bret baier. president trump is at this moment concluding a tour of marine corps facility in yuma, arizona. there you see a live shot of the president. spent several minutes talking with service members there. the pictures coming to us from yuma. he is going to be heading to phoenix. earlier, he visited a u.s. customs and border protection site in yuma as he boards the stairs to air force one. immigration, a big part of the agenda for today's western trip which crescendos tonight with a big rally in phoenix. thousands who love the president will be inside the convention center there. there is the wave. others who dno