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what's not surprising? how much money aleia saved by switching to geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. i am chris wallace.north korea conducts its most powerful nuclear test so far. we will have the latest and speak with a member of the national security council. and president trump sees firsthand the devastation from hurricane harvey. >> we are talking about they say two years, three years i think. because this is texas it will be over in six months i have a feeling. >> we will get the latest and how texans are responding and rebuilding from the governor of that state greg abbott. then, when continues to keep thousands from their homes as victims of harvey wait for aid.
we signed it and now it is going to a quick process. >> as congress gets ready to have a really package will ask steve miniature what it means for the september agenda. keeping the government open, raising the debt limit and the push for tax reform. plus, the president will announce a decision on daca. we ask our sunday panel what will happen to the dreamers. more now on fox news. we begin with breaking news. north korea has conducted its most powerful nuclear test to date. it claims to have exploded a hydrogen bomb much more powerful than the five atomic bombs it has tested since 2006. in a moment will have an exclusive interview with
treasury secretary steve mnunchin. a member of the president's national security council. versus when the chief white house correspondent john roberts with the latest. >> good morning. the real concern here is pictures at a north korea to be believe that this could be a thermonuclear war capable of being mounted on top of an intercontinental ballistic missile. the national security advisor hr mcmaster, spoke with a counterpart about an hour after the test treating this morning, north korea has conducted a major nuclear test their words and actions continues to be very hostile and dangerous to the united states and the present also put more pressure on china psa north korea is a rogue nation has become a grave threat, and embarrassment to china that has tried to help with little success. last month when they first detected new preparations for another test the president raised a lot of eyebrows when he grins north korea with what sounded like military action. the president later seemed to indicate may have made a
difference in north korea's behavior. listen here. >> they will be met with "fire and fury". like the world has never seen. >> kim jong-un, i respect the fact that i believed he is starting to respect us. >> says the president says he thinks that kim jong-un may be starting to respect united states north korea has fired a bunch of smaller missiles into the sea of japan. they fired a medium range ballistic missile over japan and now this missile test. the president tweeted again today that talking with north korea is not the answer. writing quote - south korea is finding as i told them about an appeasement that will not work. they understand only one thing. no word from the president on what that one thing is. but i think it is only fair to say chris that with
the white house has been pursuing intrinsic north korea policy is not working either. >> chris: john roberts reported
for the white house, thank you for that. joining me now treasury secretary steve mnunchin who is a member of the national security council. mr. secretary, i know you have spoken with the president this morning. what is his reaction to the news that north korea has tested another bomb? they say, a hydrogen bomb but certainly its most powerful explosive in 10 or 12 years of testing. >> good morning. i did speak with the president and it is clear that this behavior is completely unacceptable. we have already started with sanctions against north korea but i am going to draft a sanctions passage to send to the president. that anyone doing trade or business with them would be prevented from doing trade or business with us. we will work with our allies, china but people need to cut off north korea economically. this is unacceptable behavior.
>> chris: does that mean when you talk about a new trade sanction package that will be much tougher than we have been so far? on chinese financial institutions, chinese companies? >> we are going to strongly consider everything at this point. and again, i will draft a package for his strong consideration that would go as far as cutting off all trade or other business. this behavior is unacceptable and if countries want to do business with the united states, they obviously will be working with our allies and others to cut off north korea economically.>> chris: as early as a secretary but first of all, do we believe the chinese reports that this was not an atomic bomb but a much more powerful hydrogen bomb? did our intelligence community believe they have that capability? i also want to put up a picture that the north koreans put out yesterday. this shows kim they said, inspecting with a say was a nuclear warhead to be put on a ballistic missile. do we believe that they have not only the hydrogen bomb capability but also the
miniaturization to put a warhead with that kind of a weapon on a missile? >> chris, i can always in our intelligence community has been doing an amazing job on this and on other issues. i obviously cannot describe or discuss some of the classified things that you have asked me. but i canceled the intelligence community has done an incredible job. >> chris: president trump and john roberts reported this putting out a tweet facing north koreans only understand one thing. i wonder in your conversation with the president that he explain what that one thing is and the president has been talking about wanting north korea not to reach a tipping point which would unleash the "fire and fury" of the us. are we getting closer to that tipping point? >> well chris, i was a the president has made it clear. this is not the time for talk it is time for action. that this type of behavior is not acceptable and our objective has been and will continue to be to denuclearize
the peninsula. these tests are not part of the world community. >> chris: does this put us closer to, you talk about sanctions, diplomatic efforts. does this put us closer to a military response? >> again chris, i think the president made it clear he will consider everything. but we are not going to broadcast our actions. we will continue to look at all of our options but my focus right now working with the president and others to make sure that we cut additional economic sanctions, we work with china and others. china has a lot of trade with them. there's a lot we can do to cut them off economically. much more than we did already. >> chris: finally want to ask about another economic question in this regard. there are reports that president trump is considering pulling out of our free-trade agreement with south korea. one is that and secondly, why would he consider doing that at a time when we need to work
with south korea to face the threat from north korea? >> the president has made clear that where we have trade deficits with countries we are going to renegotiate the deals. in the case of south korea we have obviously provided a lot of military assistance and others and what we are doing to protect them. the president has made it clear that we want a better economic deal. but there has been no decisions made other than renegotiating that trade agreement at this point. >> chris: secretary stephen nguyen, thank you.
we will see you a little later in the program to discuss the president and his agenda. thank you for now, sir. >> thank you. >> chris: not to hurricane harvey. the big story this point is life after the storm. hundreds of thousands are still displaced by the leftist budding. many living and shelters. the president and first lady visited yesterday meeting with victims of harvey. peter is in houston. >> texas displaced by high
water are already dealing with red tape. but the president sought to cut through yesterday by trying to resolve a dispute. one evacuee said he was having with fema. >> a lot of people used to be stay with family and friends but now they are staying here. [inaudible] >>. >> as a present handed out hotdogs and played with the kids at the mega shelter his education secretary was nearby. she is talking about schools for students. his department will soon need to find temporary housing for many of the 43,000 texans that fema says has sought shelter since harvey had peered from the shelter the presidential motorcade traveled to first church to help load water and food onto vehicles for flood victims in need.
and the president is asking congress for almost $8 billion in emergency funding also repeatedly applauded the federal relief efforts this far. >> it is long-term.we are talking about they say, two years or three years. but because this is texas you will probably see it six months. i have a feeling. >> the water is still rising in parts of west houston near the dams where as many as 300 residents remained last night and a mandatory evacuation area. the power company is going around this morning cutting off service to the homes trying to encourage everyone that lives there that has not left yet to go to safety. storm and i we have governor greg abbott. please welcome doctor "fox news
sunday". -- we could go from neighborhood to neighborhood to see how all of these homes are digging out of pulling everything out of the house. she rock, flooring etc. now we get into the long process. this is where we come to the part where congress plays a role. the president committed and is asking for more than $7 billion as a down payment on this. in the meantime this is a step up to help texas rebuilder miike snow the texans themselves and people across the country are helping us do that through a fund that we have run by the state of texas called rebuild tx.org. >> chris: before we get to congress and that is certainly an important part of the equation. how toxic are the floodwaters that are still around?
how serious is the pollution and perhaps toxic pollution from some of these chemical plants? and will it be a continuing health hazard? >> chris, in any type of flood, especially any type of hurricane-based flood, there will be issues about contaminated water.it could involve chemicals, it could involve waste. people need to be very cautious as they go through the rebuilding process.understand that the water has been contaminated separate from that you are talking about chemicals that could be from waste sites in the greater houston area. the epa is monitoring that. they will get on top of that. we are working with the epa to make sure that we can contain any of the chemicals harming anyone in a greater houston area or any other place. >> chris: i think your point about that texans will help themselves. none of us are surprised by that. i want to get your latest
estimate on how much money you think you will need from washington and what do you think of the president's initial request from congress of $8 billion? >> chris, i stand this. that is both the geographic area and the population affected by this horrific hurricane and flooding, not just houston but also the beaumont area is far larger than the population and geographic area of katrina. katrina caused if i recall more than $120 billion. when you look at the number of homes and businesses affected by this i think it will cost well over hundred and $20 billion. probably $150-$180 billion. what the president has done now is made an initial request before the end of the funding cycle to get things up and running. that request is over $7 billion i understand. and i think congress understands this is a down payment on something that will cost far more understanding again, this is far larger than hurricane sandy that i think
was around $40-$50 billion. so we have a long road to rebuild the fourth-largest city in the united states as well as the entire geographic region. >> chris: the questions of the president. yesterday you were with him in the houston area. for one, i assume you are too smart to not impress them on the amount of money you are going to need. did he have a sense or did make any commitment on their talking about more than $100 billion? and secondly is behind the scenes. what struck you about his interaction with the people of houston? >> present the president did and has made 11 specific commitments. basically, he has told me and has acted upon what he has said that whatever texas needs, technical going to get. we have made several specific requests yesterday and before yesterday. the president has granted and it concerns a larger funding of course, that will be something
not the president has to work with congress on. yesterday i have to tell you that the president was warm and compassionate and caring. one of the large relocation centers was one of the stops. this is at the energy center. he was in the play area with young kids. second, we fed lunch to people that were evacuees at the nrg center. and third, we went to a church where volunteers were providing services to fellow texans. i have to tell you what our fellow texans are doing, helping each other out, these are the real heroes of the process. that process can be aided if people can go to rebuild tx.org and help out. >> chris: finally governor, i would like to ask you about a
related issue. the president is going to announce on tuesday what he will do about the daca program. texas has the most dreamers of any state in the country second only to california. i know that you have when you are attorney general opposed the obama executive orders. what do you think about the possibility that the president ending this program putting these dreamers at risk of deportation? particularly those right now in the houston area that are just trying to help out and recover from the flood? >> chris, we need to recognize that this is really a symptom of a larger problem that remains unresolved. we would not have this whole issue of daca if congress would step up and pass immigration reform and do so in working with the president. we will continue to have challenges like this unless and until both congress and the president step up and pass comprehensive immigration reform.>> chris: did you discuss daca with the president yesterday?
>> i spent a lot of time talking to the president. not just yesterday but in his prior trip and over the phone. i have to tell you, the president talked to me about exclusively is the compassion and commitment to helping texans digging out on this hurricane and as a result, issues like daca and other related issues never came up. >> chris: thank you governor abbott. again, this is the second time we have met like this. thank you for your time, sir. we will stay on top we promise in the days ahead. >> please do, thank you so much. >> chris: up next we will drill down on how harvey will affect the president's agenda in washington. treasury secretary, steve mnunchin joins us again to talk about that. humana medicare advantage members. no, it's this john smith. who we paired with a humana team member to help address his own specific health needs. at humana, we take a personal approach to your health,
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downtown houston where the sun is up much of the city is still flooded. more than one week after hurricane harvey made landfall. it is not just residents of texas that are digging out from harvey. here in washington, the president and congress will be working for years and how to pay for disaster relief and long-term recovery.that could have a
dramatic effect on the trump agenda. return is no way treasury secretary, steve mnunchin, to talk about his day job. thank you again mr. secretary. >> thank you chris. >> chris: let's start with the effective hurricane harvey on donations finances. the white house is asking congress for $7.8 billion in immediate aid plus another $6.7 billion within weeks, the head of the house freedom caucus, mark meadows assists not want to see the disaster aid tied to a bill to raise the debt limit. can you guarantee him and
others that that will not happen? >> no, i cannot. by the contrary. the president and i believe it should be tied to the harvey funding. our first priority is to make sure that the state gets money. it is critical and to do that we need to make sure that we raise the debt limit. so if congress appropriates the money but i do not have the ability to borrow money to pay for it we will not get the money to the state. so we need to put politics aside and we will be urging congress to get both of those things done as quickly as they can. >> chris: i want to make sure because this is new news as they say. there is talk of the house is going to take up almost $8 billion in disaster relief. the next week you're saying that you want to see a clean debt limit without any other spending costs tied to the disaster relief? >> i do. that is our priority. at this point, we need to put politics aside.
we need to make sure that we can get to texas the appropriate amount of money to rebuild the state. it is absolutely critical and the president is committed to making sure that the states have the money that they need. >> chris: and again, just to pin this down, if the debt limit is not raised will that interfere with the relief effort? >> it will. prior to harvey i think i said we have enough funding to go through the end of september and urge congress to focus on this before that period of time. but with harvey and of the situation of earlier. without raising the debt limit, i am not comfortable i will get the money that we need this month to texas to rebuild. i think as you know, that is our priority. you need to help the people in texas and we need to get that done. >> chris: i want to ask you about another part of the immediate agenda. president trump and recently that he would be willing to
shut down the government if he did not get the money as part of a government funding bill to build the wall or begin building the wall that the government runs out of running on september 30 with harvey, with disaster relief, with all of this priority to help people in texas. at least for now, is that the shut down the government over the border wall, is that out the window? >> chris, i cannot really comment on if that is out the window or not. and again, i know that the wall is a huge priority to the president and we want to assure we get money for that.i would say the president, the first objective for us right now is for the people of texas. and make sure we get the funding to do that.that is what we are focused on this weekend we will be meeting with leadership of both parties to work on that. >> chris: you have a lot of top priorities. but your long-term top priority right now is tax reform. the white house is pushing that, the president made a new
post last week but in terms of details, the administration seems to have been going backwards. i would like to ask you about that, sir. here is what you laid out in april. a 50 percent corporate tax rate, individual tax brackets of 10, 25 and 35 percent. the alternative minimum tax repealed and eliminate or reduced tax rates -- are all of those elements is still in the president's tax reform plan? >> chris, i do not think we would be going backwards it all. as a matter fact i think we've made progress as you know, i've been working on tax reform with the president for over the last year and and a half starting on the campaign. we did to economic speeches in detroit and new york when you're thinking about this during the campaign. now as president, this is also one of his biggest priorities to create economic growth. we been working since january
with leadership in the house and senate. want to make sure that we have one plan, not three plans. the objective is to get this past and get to the president's desk this year. we've gone through lots of details. the plan is still similar to what you have described that we put out in the one page. we have been working with the house and senate going through lots of complicated details. there begin to socialize that with members and i look forward to seeing a bill this year signed on the president's desk. >> are you insisting, because the president did not say this in his speech and this past week. are you still insisting that this will be revenue neutral that it will not add to the deficit, that if you lower rates you also take away some deductions or tax breaks to pay for it? or could this just turn into tax cuts. and if so, give what you just heard from governor greg abbott, about 150 or $180 billion in federal money needed for harvey, want this blow a hole in the deficit?
>> well chris, the president has been very focused on the national debt. and concern that has gone from $10-$20 trillion. that is a big concern of ours. we want to make sure that we can pay for things.but the way we will pay for things is with economic growth. the difference between two and three percent is trillions of dollars of revenue to the government. i think we may be in a situation where the ministration believes will get more economic growth than perhaps models that come out of congress. but we will be working with them on that. i think now more than ever it is too early to tell what the economic impact of harvey is but now more than ever, we need to make sure we pass tax reform, regulatory relief and negotiations. so we create three percent or higher gdp in this country. and we will rebuild what we need to be built. >> chris: you're not indicating that this will be revenue neutral in terms of what money
the treasury loses to lower tax rates and what it gains from fewer deductions. >> well, again, what we have said is that we believe in dynamic scoring.and under our growth models of the treasury, this will pay for itself. and again, we may not get full credit for that. there may be short-term impact on the deficit. we want to be very careful and paying for this with growth. we also need to boost the economy. we need tax credits for tax reform now. >> chris: i have a couple of minutes left. president trump said this week that cutting the corporate tax rate will primarily benefit workers. here he is. >> we need a competitive tax code that creates more jobs and higher wages for americans. it is time to give american workers the pay raise that
they have been looking for for many, many years. >> chris: independent experts,
including your own treasury department says that shareholders, people that own stock get 75 to 80 percent of the burden from higher corporate tax rates and if the corporate tax rates are lowered that they will get some 75 to 80 percent of the benefit, not the workers. >> chris, most economists believe that over 70 percent of corporate taxes are paid for by the workers. and the fact that the treasury department, i think was eight or 10 years ago put out a piece otherwise, i do not believe in that. our current economic team did not
believe in that. there are lots of economic research. we need to create a business tax system that is competitive. live one of the highest tax rates in the world. we tax on worldwide income. there are three to $5 trillion sitting offshore and the president and i are completely focused on reading something good for american workers that
will create american jobs and bring back american manufacturing. and we have to be competitive. that is something that people understand. just as ronald reagan did tax reform 30 years ago, the president is focused on getting it done now. >> chris: one last question. i want to turn to daca and the impact on the economy. this week some 400 business leaders sent the president a letter, saying, if the 780,000 dreamers that now work for are put at risk of deportation, the economy will lose $460 billion plus $24.6 billion in social security and medicare taxes. briefly sarah, would ending daca, forgetting the other aspects, would that hurt the economy? >> chris, i think is a complicated issue. there is a lot of important issues on the agenda this week. as it relates to immigration, the president is very focused on legal immigration. as he said, is a complicated issue and something ensure that
the president will consider carefully as it relates to the economic impact, i am less concerned about the economic impact. we will make sure that we have plenty of workers in his economy. we want to put more people back to work.
there are a lot of people that left the workforce and our objective is to bring them back into the workforce.>> chris: thank you so much for being with us and doing double duty today. >> thank you, chris. >> chris: our study group will come in to talk about the most powerful nuclear bomb yet from north korea. and what the us can do about it.
action, michael needham, marie harf, a state department official. jeff mason cover the white house for reuters and former republican congressman, jason chaffetz is now a fox news contributor. let me start with you congressman. your reaction to what seems to be a dramatic escalation in north korea's nuclear program. what they are saying is there best test of a hydrogen bomb. >> is in escalation and will have to wrap it up he returned everything from sending and dennis rodman to blessing the military presence. but i think a lot of focus has to go to japan or china. the secretary earlier in this program talked about new sanctions with anybody doing business with north korea. the main trading partner with north korea is china. and it will be very interesting to see how far this administration takes those types of sanctions. but china has the most vested interest in making that change
there. but it is hard when more than $1 trillion of the united states that is owned by the chinese. that's what's been a very precarious position for us. >> chris: marie, a veteran of the state department, your reaction to what has happened to date in north korea and to be fair, your president and george w. bush and bill clinton all tried and have all failed to stop north korea from pursuing its nuclear ambitions. >> that's right north korea has shown no amount of international isolation has dissuaded them from pursuing the program. many administrations have tried. there are no perfect options. they're not even great ones. but two things i think are important. the president needs to be very clear that right now is not the time to renegotiate south korean trade. now wasn't the time to threaten them. because we need to stand shoulder to shoulder with them. we need to focus on the real threat which is north korea and to be fair, the south korean
trade agreement is a pretty good one. the president tweeted this morning, this is breaking is already in sole this morning we've artie seen reaction. this is the time to stand squarely with our allies because as i said, there certainly is no good military option. we have to make it clear to north korea that if they do anything like attacking the us, that their resume will be destroyed. i think the president has to walk a fine line in doing that. >> what you think about secretary religion and he had just gotten off of the public president trump saying, much tougher sanctions and much more targeted on china. >> absolutely. sanctions had to be a key part of strategy here. they had to be combined with other things like making sure missile defense keeps getting better and better. making sure that the south koreans and the japanese have what they need to defend themselves. in making clear to north korea that this is not acceptable and
making sure the american people understand the real threat here. not in escalatory rhetoric cycle that we have seen before but being very clear idea about it. >> want to bring you into this michael. a bunch of things to talk about. the north korean test, the word from secretary minasian on new sanctions, also the question of is this the right time to possibly pull out of our free-trade agreement with south korea? >> as meaningful sanction pressure when a ballistic missile defense, when he sanction in china if they are not willing to participate. the type of sanctions that were in place on iran previous to president obama with an uninvited iranian deal were startup repair the president is not accurate wasting north korea is more than any other country. i do agree this is not the time to pull out of the free-trade agreement. but the same is also true of south korea. south korea and the president had talked about restarting the case on industrial conflict or this is a joint south korea and north korea industrial complex
that was started about 20 years ago.an expansion of it was stopped in 2006 after the nuclear test it was pulled out in 2016. i think america and korea if we stay by side by side we should stay in our free-trade agreement but i think would be a disaster also for south korea to reopen the case on industrial conflicts. >> to a certain degree this all feels like groundhog day to me. the clock is waking up and ringing at 6 o'clock in the morning. many times have we seen this? there is no free missile test or a nuclear test. we help and puff, we talk about military options, we talked about sanctions, we talk about pressure in china. given covering the white house now for about nine years. everybody back to bill clinton, this never works. >> yes bill clinton during his presidency, agreed on a package of giving $4 billion in energy age north korea. that ended up not happening. president obama asked his military to work with south korea to prepare for a potential attack. george w. bush called north
korea the axis of evil piercy of heard rhetoric like this, you have heard words from president and now of course you president trump really raising his rhetoric up and in terms of talk about "fire and fury". the question is will any of it matter and where is it going? >> chris: what is the answer? >> we have to see what happens with north korea and see what happens with china.president trump has worked hard to build a relationship with president xi jinping but he has shown increasing frustration with the fact that the relationship is not paying off. and as they are deciding whether or not to put more sanctions and economic pressure on china as a -- >> i do not think stations would ever work. i do not think the president of north korea cares about his people. he is only focused on obtaining nuclear -- >> chris: we've been talking around this.
one thing we really have not discussed is the military option. is there a realistic credible military option? >> lb never get to that point. but i do think the focus of the world has got to be with china. because north korea's trading partner is china. and if china is not going to live up to the obligations to help what they did under the un. a minute was very -- with nikki haley and the un were able to achieve but china has really got to be the focus. >> and the cost of even a first military strike, the cost would be so appalling in terms of casualties. not just in south korea and japan but possibly american service members serving over there.the cost of a military option would be astronomical. >> chris: we have to take a break but when we come back, the president is set to announce his decision for daca this week. what will happen to the hundreds of thousands of dreamers in the us?plus, what would you like to ask the panel about the president's response
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us there with victims of destruction left by harvey. in his second trip to texas this week. rebecca and i were there panel. we ask you for questions for our sunday group. on the issue of the president's response to harvey connolly got this on facebook from paige williams. she writes, what are the differences between how donald trump responded to harvey and versus past presidents and their biggest disaster? how do you answer that jeff? >> president doesn't criticism rightly or wrongly on tuesday for not showing up at the scene. but when he went into the detective he did not go into the middle really of the
disasters on because it was still being worked on. there was still a lot of response going. when he did guess it was me with some of the victim's, do some of the things that presidents do and help put some aid into trucks at a church. it is comparable but there will be people who say it's not the same. >> forget the presidential optics for a moment because in the end it is a very matter much but in terms of fema and eight on the ground, what is your sense of how the federal response has been? >> for the federal response has been very positive. there has been very little criticism coming from the state was actually affecting or has been affected. you have governor abbott on the program earlier has been very complementary. unlike katrina were clearly aidan is not given effect of, this response appears to have been very rapid. >> chris: also the first responders in the state and local government seems to have done a better job then new orleans or louisiana did. i have a feeling i'm going to get to a negative point because
the news that the secretary made early in the program is that he said we want any disaster aid, the ultimate $8 billion this week. linked to a claimed debt limit bill because we not going to be able to provide all of that disaster and billions of dollars unless we have raised the debt limit. what is your reaction to that? >> is not really understand why think the two things need to be linked. everybody agrees we should get $15 million of real emergency relief that is necessary to texas.i spoke with mark meadows yesterday. chairman of the house real caucus. i think that exploiting this hurricane, people that lost their houses to allow business as usual in washington are getting an 18 month increase to the nation's debt limit. there continue to spend money that we cannot afford we do not have. it makes no sense. if there is some sort of technical reason that in order to get $15 billion out, be a very small couple billion
dollars increase of the debt limit is necessary then of course nobody would have that but i just completely disagree with him. we will obviously want to get help that but in 18 month increase of the debt limit, that being necessary makes no sense. >> he clearly was pushing the line today and a couple of times he invoked president trump to make it clear that the president was a claimed debt limit tied to disaster relief. so you been talking to the house freedom caucus. while they oppose that? >> i think they will first of all. there is a clean debt limit and it doesn't matter what it is attached to. you have to go back to first principles. why is that 100 years ago america voluntarily decided to put a debt limit on ourselves? and it makes sense to have a smoke alarm in the fiscal house. when a smoke alarm goes off, everyone agrees we need to raise the debt limit but you should also start taking the types of steps necessary to make sure that our children and grandchildren do not suffer under debt that they cannot
afford to pay. >> not only is that going to be a big issue here in washington this week but what will happen with disaster relief and another issue is daca. the president promised to enter this program which protects hundreds of thousands of so-called dreamers from deportation. but as president he has made it clear he is struggling with this. >> this is a difficult subject for me. i will tell you. to me is one of the most difficult subjects because you have these incredible kids, they are here illegally, they should not be very worried. i do have a big heart. >> chris: now congressman jason chaffetz, the president said he will announce what he's going to do about daca this week. at the same time other states are going to file suit because they claim that this is an executive order is unconstitutional. but a lot of others say he should not and daca.
are all of these republicans wrong? >> the president has a mandate based on elections locked on the border, get rid of incentives to be here illegally and reject amnesty. i do think the president based on my conversations with people on the hill the last 48 hours or so, think with the president is going to do is give a window of opportunity for congress to actually do something on immigration reform over a six-month period. that is my best guess. i do not think you just cut off the very next day. later this week. i do not think that will happen. and i think that the president does have a big heart and it is difficult to deal with someone who was brought here as a two-year-old. but the president also campaigned on the idea that we are not going to provide rewards and incentives. i do think it will be @foxnewssunday members on the democratic side of the aisle to the table to know that they will have to work and by transits work in a bipartisan
way. >> chris: so say that we are going to and daca but give us a six-month window for congress to do something and of course the obvious question then is, would find for the border will be part of the deal? >> again, they have to get the funding for the portable. it is a modest amount. less than $2 million of a $4 trillion budget. i do think the president will get the money but i also think you'll see a continuing resolution that will get some of these really tough decisions down to later in december. >> chris: let's run our christmas and new year's. >> marriott to bring you because people can disagree with protecting the dreamers, whether it is incentive, or amnesty. on the other hand, there certainly is a legitimate argument that president obama acted illegally, unconstitutionally and doing this by executive order and it should be better done by congress to request they be looking at this name continue to. i get nervous relying on congress are not to fix anything because they have shown themselves incapable of
being able to pass anything major. even of the control the house and senate and white house. they have all of these recipients in texas. these are people in the houston area, paramedics are saving lives of people that is a daca recipient. getting rid of this without a plan to replace, it seems to me to quite frankly be mean. i hate to use the word but it seems mean. it also is bad economics. you asked the secretary about and he wavered on it because there are studies that save you pick out all of these people will lose billions and billions of dollars in revenue. >> but if the process was so imperative when the democrats had this, they didn't do anything with it. >> that was a long time ago. >> let's all put our hopes in congress to get something done. >> there is a reason that businesses are pushing the president not to do this.
there is definitely an economic piece it is of the president is clearly considering and businesses and republicans and democrats are involved. >> chris: 15 seconds, how would you feel if he did with congressman jason chaffetz is saying?i will stop daca but i will give you six months >> quiz we need an immigration policy that makes sense for 325 million. >> chris: thank you panel. the two angels flying high and inspiring pride. struts, brakes. does he turn everything to gold? not everything. at midas we're always a touch better. book an appointment at midas.com >> chris: pride,
professionalism, precision. we told her that those the words of the military unit, our power player of the month. >> we have focused on the precise control of the airplane. flying it to the best of your ability and thinking ahead of what is next and next and next to. >> chris: this is the commander of the blue angels. the navy's precision flights squadron. he leaves them through intricate maneuvers at up to 700 miles per hour. the planes sometimes get 18 inches apart. the blue angels were in the area to perform at the us naval academy. we got to go inside of their operation. >> is there a lot of talking going on in the air? >> a lot of talking. as a leader and calling a cadence for every turn, every poll, every power change. we are turning less.
on that go all six move in unison. [inaudible] >> when all of that gets going, it gets fuzzy. because it will just take on this rhythm. you feel the fuzz chris! >> chris: feeling the fuzz. >> is crisp but it is electric. >> chris: this admiral started the blue angels in 1946. with f6 hellcat planes to give up interest in naval aviation after world war ii. now, they fly f-18 hornet's and dozens of shows each year for more than 11 million spectators. on a cloudy naval academy, to a crystal-clear san francisco bay. >> i was always going to be a pilot. >> why? >> the blue angels.
>> used to go with his dad to shows in the bay area every summer. >> i was that kid and i wanted to fly. >> now he is a nickname. >> they call me flight leader boss. it will also boss. it works and then we do on the ground as well. >> at the end of the show, the blue angels do women ever called a right cross. also explains heading straight up then in six different directions and then, back to the center. >> at about 800 knots so just under 1000 miles an hour. and boy, is it sweet. you get that synergy and you feel that fuzz. you get it going and it is really, really - it is sweet but very intense. >> he has flown combat over iraq and afghanistan. he compares it to operating off of an aircraft carrier. and he says that is the mission that the blue angels. to represent their fellow
service members. that are on the front lines. >> is about the navy and marine corps. they are providing us our freedom. we make people feel something and it is that pride. it is the pride that the country has in our sailors and marines. we just bring it and display it in a way that people can connect with. and they can see and feel and touch. that i think is the value of this. >> the blue angels are traveling the country through november. if you get a chance to send them an action it is something i promise you will never forget. all of us here at fox news sunday and fox news channel are thinking of the people of texas and louisiana. hit by hurricane harvey. if you like to support the relief effort, you can donate to the red cross, salvation army or go to www.foxnews.com for more ways to help. that is it for today.
have a great week! we'll see the next fox news sunday. available. >> abby: have a great sunda y>> fox news alert north korea claiming a major aadvancement its nuclear weapons program. they successfully tested a hydrogen bomb. if confirmed this with an six most powerful nuclear weapon test ever. north korea state television reported that pyongyang successfully tested a hydrogen bomb small enough to mount on the top of an intercontinental ballistic missile. the kind of missile that a test launched twice in july. the us geological service depicting a magnitude 6.3