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have a great week! we'll see the next fox news sunday. available. >> abby: have a great sunda y>> fox news alert north korea claiming a major aadvancement its nuclear weapons program. they successfully tested a hydrogen bomb. if confirmed this with an six most powerful nuclear weapon test ever. north korea state television reported that pyongyang successfully tested a hydrogen bomb small enough to mount on the top of an intercontinental ballistic missile. the kind of missile that a test launched twice in july. the us geological service depicting a magnitude 6.3
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earthquake near the suspected site. that is a northeast north korea. that would potentially make the last 5 to 6 times stronger than the north korean nuclear test last september. condemnation pouring in right now from around the world and from president trump. our chief white house correspondent john roberts joins me with more. >> good morning trish. what has the white house to send it this morning is to photographs we saw released last night. what's with these on the screen so you can see for yourself. this is kim jong-un on reportedly inspecting a thermonuclear hydrogen bomb warhead capable of being mounted on an intercontinental ballistic missile. now, as all things with north korea is impossible to confirm if it is a bomb or a shell or a mock up. sarah huckabee sanders saying quote - the national security team is monitoring this closely. the president and his national
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security team will have a meeting to discuss further later today. they will provide updates as necessary. present also tweeting gutherie has conducted a major nuclear test. their words and actions continue to be very hostile and dangerous united states. north korea is a rogue nation which is become a great threat and embarrassment to china that is trying to help. but with little success. the kopresent suggesting the south korean policy tweeting quote - i told them that their appeasement with north korea will not help. they understand only one thing. no word yet from the president on what that one thing might be. whether it is military action or more economic pressure. the treasury secretary stephen religion on "fox news sunday" short time ago said he will send the president new measures to put the screws to people doing business with canorth korea. listen here. >> second the president made it clear he will consider
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everything but we are not going to broadcast our actions. we will continue to look at all of our options but my focus right now working with the president and others, to make sure that we put additional economic sanctions. we work with china and others. china has a lot of trade with them. there is a lot we can do to cut them off economically. much more than we have done already. >> at the beginning of august you will remember that the president raised a lot of eyebrows when he says that his bedminster home that north korea with face the "fire and fury" of the united states. if they continue to threaten the us and its allies. the president also tweeting the us has been talking to north korea and paying extortion money for 25 years.talking is not the answer. so it looks like they will continue with the economic pressure. the idea of military action still very much on the table. >> economic pressure i've been saying all along does not make a lot of sense because we had just begun to scratch the surface and terms of what we
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can and should be doing with china. people are still saying that there itis some diplomatic opportunity here. there is room for despondency. will that come in the way of economic sanctions or are some point we getting downward to military action? >> clearly economic sanctions is annexed logical step. but shortly after the president sent out the tweet that talking about the answer, on last wednesday, secretary of defense was meeting with his south korean counterpart where he seemed to contradict the president saying, there is plenty of room left for diplomacy. listen here. >> we are never out of the planet solutions. we continue to work together and to minister and i share responsibility provided for the protection of our nation, our populations in our interest. which is what we are here to discuss today. that we can collaborate.areas we already have very collaboration. you always look for more. we are never complacent. >> will also remember trish sthat shortly before he left t white house, steve bannon said
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in that it's ordinary interview that he did not see any good military options for north korea. that did not end in the death of millions and millions of people in seoul. i'm told by some military leaders and former military leaders that there are some military options. iothe take the north korean artillery. we have a lot of massive ordinance penetrators i can probably get in and knock out the e artillery. but still, the prospect of any kind of military action with north korea not really palatable for a lot of people. it looks like they will try to continue down this road of sanctions. which comparatively speaking is still pretty light right now. i think we have a lot to do on that. >> i've been saying all along agree. thank you. for more on this we have ambassador -- nl fox news contributor. good to caesar. ambassador are there any diplomatic options left? >> i think the only diplomatic option left is to enter the regime in north korea by
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effectively having the south take it over. i think k you've got to argue - >> is not really diplomatic as far as they are concerned. >> that is their problem, not ours. anyone that thinks more diplomacy with north korea or sanctions, whether against north korea or an effort to apply sanctions against china, is just giving north korea more time to increase the nuclear arsenal, increase ballistic missile capability, increase accuracy of its guidance systems and put us, south korea and japan and more jeopardy. we have fooled around with north korea for 25 years. fooling around some more is just going to make matters worse. >> to put in some historical perspective, you think back to the 1990s. 1994 jimmy carter going down there and basically coming up with the big solution alongside also planning clinton. and they thought they had taken care tof this. which by the way, another conversation for another day, should be a warning to all of us in terms of iran.
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they did not take care of this. guess what? north koreans continue to work on their nuclear program and now we are dealing with what sarah, today? ambassador, described the threat that north korea presents to every american right now. >> they are very close. they are not there yet i do not think that they are very close to being able to hit targets all across the united states. if today's test is a thermonuclear weapon, then with thermonuclear weapons. this regime will sell anything to anybody for a hard currency. they could sell these weapons, ballistic missiles and the nuclear devices themselves to iran in a heartbeat. you may have noticed iran is kind of flush with cash after the nuclear deal. so while we can focus on the iran nuclear deal, it is a metaphor of orthe axis of evil not really a metaphor. it is a reality. north korea can sell these devices to terrorist groups around the world. they can be used as electromagnetic pulse weapons. not necessarily hitting targets but udestroying our electrical
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grid capability. they can be used for nuclear blackmail. and even further, not only would iran get these up as it would be a lesson to every would be nuclear state in the world.if you just have patience enough, you can wear the united states down.the notion that we can accept you work with 800 nuclear capability just means that we will forever be at their mercy. quickly vassar, what with potentially risky now if we say okay, we will go in with some strategic military strikes to take out his nuclear weapons to possibly take him out or at least remove him from power. what is the risk? are we going to wind up with some new people's lives gone and south korea, in seoul because we make that move? quickly after this, though not dead americans? >> no i mean i'm just saying --
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>> this is not easy. this is not. but does anybody think that the decision will be easier one year from now? or five years not three or 10 years from roughly this is the kind of thing that we should he franklin roosevelt advice. in a fireside chat and 1941 on september 11, roosevelt said, we see a rattlesnake poised to strike, you cannot wait until it has struck before he crushed it. and he said submarines and raters are the rattlesnakes for the north atlantic good i will argue guessing north korean nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles and iran's all we are on the subject, or the rattlesnakes of the 21st century. if you want to leave them there there will be a lot of rattlesnakes in the world. >> it is a shame that it ever got to this. >> it absolutely is. >> iran as well. ambassador john bolton thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> the other big city, parts of
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in the gulf states plan for harvey. the present making a second trip to texas and louisiana yesterday. the first lady meeting with survivors and getting a close look at the storm devastation. thousands remain in shelters and now, reports of christology for water, gas and other necessities for the texas attorney general ken paxton. we do have you here sir. >> good morning. >> gives a sense of what was happening 30,000 people
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shelters. were mthey going to do in the coming days, weeks and months? >> there is a lot of help coming from the federal government, from the state. we have a rainy day fund in texas that we preserve. billions in that. all the fish of the legislature will provide. a little hippie people help. my coming monday but a guarantee it will be taken care of. >> are you happy with the federal government has done this berkeley you see the president down there twice. you see the vice president there. is it enough in the way i guess, leadership, emotional support, all the things important to texans right now? >> you know what? never prepare for is for this. you have done a good job over the years dealing with all kinds of natural disasters from floods to hurricanes and tornadoes. many natural disasters in texas who can prepare for a storm at last this long? the federal government or state government with leadership, great job coordinating this.
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loss of life is horrific but it is amazing the job they have done in asthe last little over one week. >> think back and you cannot help but think with katrina. terms of lives lost, we don't get but upwards of 1800 people being left katrina and hopefully when i come to see anything like that.does it speak in some ways to the coordination in terms of getting people out that he did to get help. >> this is fox news coverage of the situation in north korea. i am in new york let's go live at the white house where defense secretary james mattis is grieving reporters at this moment. >> any threat to the united states or its territories including one for our allies will be met with a massive military response, a response
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effective and overwhelming. kim jong-un should take heed the united nations security council unified voice. all members unanimously agreed on the threat north korea closes and they remain unanimous in their commitment to the demilitarization of the korean peninsula. because we are not looking to the total annihilation of the country, namely, north korea. but as i said, we have many options to do so. thank you very much ladies and gentlemen. [inaudible] >> was a hydrogen bomb secretary? >> how do you prevent -- >> is the president going to war secretary? >> a brief statement from the defense secretary james mattis about the difficult situation in north korea.
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this is likely manually i am joined by arthel neville. this is a series of the us is taking us to fly here we are on a holiday weekend. and they convened the security council. you have him coming out on the driver the white house to break reporters. not taking questions but a carefully worded statement about the nuclear situation with north korea. xes committing any threat would be met with massive and overwhelming response. as you mentioned, tomorrow there will be an emergency meeting with a united nations security council. ambassador nikki haley of course and her counterpart from japan, france, uk and the republic of korea. what exactly they will be mulling over in terms of an immediate response or a solution, we will find out in the days and hours probably coming. this is obviously, it has escalated to a point where it is getting this type of attention from the white house as we just saw. defense secretary james mattis
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speaking there. our john roberts is going to be joining us shortly with more. meanwhile, it is quite ominous but here we are, on a holiday weekend of all things. that it is demanding such attention that this press conference albeit brief was just held. and now this emergency meeting happening tomorrow on labor day. >> that's right. let's go back to the statement from secretary james mattis in case folks are just joining us let's listen. >> good afternoon. ladies and gentlemen, we had a small group of national security meeting today with the president and vice president. about the latest provocation on the korean peninsula. i have many military options that the president wanted to be briefed on every one of them. we made clear that we have the ability to defend ourselves and our allies, south korea and japan. from any attack and our commitments among the allies
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are ironclad. any threat to the united states or its territories including guam or our allies will be met with a massive military response. a response effective and overwhelming. kim jong-un should take heed the united states security council unified voice. all members unanimously agreed on the threat north korea poses. and they remain unanimous in their commitment to the denuclearization of the korean peninsula. because we are not looking to the total annihilation of a country, namely, north korea. as i said, we have many options to do so. thank you very much ladies and gentlemen. >> that was a question from our colleague, john roberts our chief white house correspondent. secretary james mattis did not take the question, no surprise
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but john, your analysis what you just heard from the defense secretary here on a holiday weekend on a sunday afternoon. >> wow! in one word just wow! the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, i said to believe that that what they can put onto intercontinental ballistic missile but he was not taking questions at all. we do have confirmation of the source from the intelligence community and a statement earlier today that they have no reason to believe that this is not a hydrogen bomb. however what you see in that particular picture with kim jong-un looking at it we do not know if it is actually a warhead is a mockup of a warhead or just an empty shell. we do not know. but for secretary john to come out and say the president wanted to be briefed on every military option that we have, and then that sharp wanted to kim jong-un. do not threaten the us
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homeland, none of our territories, our allies because any attack will be met with a massive military response. and to use the words, we are not looking for the total annihilation of a country. i do not remember when i have heard that. maybe since the early 1960s. it was a very, very sharp wanted to north korea to not play fast with the nuclear program. as i heard you mention a short time ago, ambassador nikki haley and called for an emergency meeting of the security council for 10:00 a.m. tomorrow. clearly, the white house is playing series hardball with this issue here. this is not let's sit down and talk. this is, we have the goods, we could take you out if we need to. do not dare attack us because that will be the end, not just of your resume at the end of your country. never heard talk like that before. >> definitely hard talk, ominous warning for sure.
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john roberts, we have to take a short break that we will come back to you in a moment as we continue our reporting. special report on the latest threat to the us by north korea. president trump joining other world leaders and condemning north korea as the regime came to a successful test of what would be its most powerful nuclear weapon yet.a hydrogen bomb. should we be responding right now? joining me we mihave florida republican congressman ron dissent is a member of the house foreign affairs committee. good to see congressman. >> good morning. >> here we go. as the president said, if they dared to do anything like this they would be met with fire and theory. are we going to meet them with fire empirically. >> i think it is too soon to tell what the exact response would be but when you north korea was proceeding down this
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route for a long time but the speed at which they are doing, not only on the missile front but now on the nuclear device. it is far faster than i think it we anticipated. but that is much more immediate today than probably we would have forecast two or three years ago. i think the identity will negotiate with the north korean regime and that there was somehow standard down on some of this i think it is power. -- we have done some sanctions but we have not done things to say banks in china that launder money to north korea. so there are things that we can do that the president could do that i think really would hurt, i think that you can start his regime of sustenance of the money, then that makes his role
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less secure but i think ultimately you have to have someone else take over for him. i think it would be better if they were done from the ground up.but i just do not see him giving up these weapons. >> i hear you because it is the only thing that keeps him relevant, right? he wants to cling to those but here is the thing congressman, china as well, seems to like having him there. he is effectively a buffer for them. and china, while the said that they are going to embark on these sanctions and promised to do things before, we have actually seen them disregard them entirely. think about trade. the first quarter you had training between north korea and china up 37.4 percent. how does that happen if china is theoretically on our side? >> i think you're right.china will kind of do the right thing at first or at least now the right courtesy. within the issue as it starts to recede they go back to the
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previous behavior. and there are ways that you can really hit chinese banks that i think would make a big difference. >> we have only done -- >> he will need to have a good relationship with the united states if you want to continue his role. i think that would make a difference but we have not really done that yet. >> can i ask you why? what is taking so long? by the way, china, we have not even talked about the intellectual property tax stealing $300 billion worth of our creativity every year from american companies.you talk about the sanctions on banks. what is taking so long? >> i think there was an interest by the secretary of state to try and engage in more diplomacy. i'm just not sure that there is much of an opening for that. at this point. so i think we do need to engage in coercive measures,
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economically, politically and certainly with a credible threat of military force. the time has come now. you look at somebody like kim, what would you do with these? would he actually fire a nuclear tipped missile to hit the united states? should know that it would mean his regime's destruction. but this is a kid is really there from birth. if he had not been born into the family probably would be in a basement somewhere eating chinos and playing video games. >> ouch! >> there is a possibility he would ask but i think it is also important to point out, north korea engages and proliferation. and so the technology has accumulated, he would absolutely be willing to sell that to rogue regimes like iran and so the danger is more than just what kim would do with it. it is who he would give it to. i think you took back
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everything like iran, that would make the north korea problem look much more manageable in comparison. because there, you have a vision that truly is maniacal and i think they would be fine to destructing on states. >> will there is a religious component. when you look at the some of the countries we see islamic extremism, they do not necessarily have the same sense of fatality about them that may be north korea with. so if north korea were to sell to a country that wants to see some kind of world war that is another ballgame here north korea needs the money, right? >> you are exactly right. >> congressman, one more secular because it because the economic sanctions on, are they more incentivized to sell to another one of these rogue nations? >> they may be but i think there are ways you can deal with that by really trying to get not only china but then russia and blockaded north korea and really turn the scores from all angles. even if he did not do the
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economic pressure, they are still incentivized to sell the stuff to iran and other rogue regimes. if you remember in syria, israel took out that reactor that they were building 2006. that was built with the north koreans help. so they are etreally problemati in the area. he stopped ultimately ran as he mentioned, mutually assured destruction which kept the peace with the soviet union. that was a deterrent them with iran given their fanatical views. mutually assured destruction could be an inducement for them to use weapons. >> president has his work cut out for him for sure. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> will have more in the developing story tregarding north with the former white house senior advisor will give us his take on all of this. as you look at this developing crisis. that is ahead.
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conducted is six nuclear test of what will be its most powerful weapon yet. a hydrogen bomb. it could be mounted on missiles capable of reaching the united states mainland. we are live from washington with more. hello rich. >> good morning. we're just getting this from the state department and a spokesperson. they say that rex tillerson is
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-- the national security team is monitoring events closely and will meet. this is at the state department. and the secretary of state, they believe in the campaign to deter north korea from continuing to develop weapons programs after a dramatic escalation in rhetoric last month, the secretary said north korea was showing restraint. since then kim jong-un regime has fired a missile over japan and north korea is not claiming it successfully to the hydrogen bomb. it can load onto an intercontinental ballistic missile. they say the advertising north korea diplomatically and economically is beginning to work it is countries according more economic ties. south korea according to its news agency says that it will seek the most powerful united nations sanctions to completely isolate north korea. united nations security council recently approved additional sanctions against north korea though even more sanctions against the north would require
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china and russia again to sign off in that and it seems unlikely. the russian foreign ministry says that they told secretary tillerson just days ago that any further strengthening of the sanctions pressure against north korea would be quote - productive and rescue the state officials the effort section secretary's continued lobbying of operatories particularly china to put up north korea. we can have about the treasury department unveil sanctions against chinese and russian firms for conducting business with north korea. back to you. >> thank you rich. for more on this we go to the former senior advisor to the president george w. bush and a fox news contributor. good to see you this morning. >> good morning. >> you heard rich talk about the importance of china and all of this and putting more pressure on china.
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these are the president tweeting that north korea has been an embarrassment to china. that part of political pressure that we can put on china? they made a promise that they would try and control this regime there and so far it is not looking so good. >> i think it is a useful step to take what we have taken in the past and it is not really work that well. this really is a slap in the face of the chinese. the north koreans will conduct the first test is a think 2016 and they did so two days before china hosts a gigantic meeting of developing countries, the so-called brics meeting. this is important for them to do what they did just before it starts is a clear sign that the north koreans are telling china we don't care what you think. we're going to keep doing what we want to do. so it is -- >> they would not have this capability of china had not been there along the way. i keep pointing to this statistic from the first quarter. the fact that trade carl went up between china and north korea nearly 40 percent. in other words, they are helping to keep him there!
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>> yeah, will look not him. they hope to keep a communist regime as a buffer state. between them and the south koreans. the thing that they are definitely afraid of is to have a pro-western oriented ally of the united states right on their border. so they want to have, this one of the trade-offs that we will have to accept which is we want to get rid of kim jong-un, then we had to say to the chinese, we will accept a communist regime and north korea does not one as aggressively pursuing nuclear ambitions. i thought that you and ron desantis had a good exchange. we have sanctioned about everybody doing business directly with the north koreans. now we are going to have to do the difficult thing which is to sanctioned companies that are doing business with companies that are doing business with north korea. any of those will be financial institutions but others will be trading companies and
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industrial companies, manufacturing concerns and benefit from say chinese, north korean coal or maybe north korean seafood and the wood products industry. this will be difficult to do and live -- they are saying that this was said of course before the latest test. so they may have a change of mind after this latest test but we may have to do this unilaterally or with allies or not do it through the un. >> is is difficult just from a procedural process? that the treasury department has to identify all of these people and it is a little bit of a puzzle figuring out where all of the monies going? or is it difficult because there is economic hardship involved possibly for us? >> well, it's not so much the latter, it is the former. but it is also sending a very strong message which to the chinese which is, you can continue to play this game of having a big bump up in trade in the first part of the year
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and then agreed to significant sanctions. we have to get the chinese credit was if they follow through on it but they said we will stop buying the things that we were buying from them primarily seafood and coal and other commodities people stop buying them for investment they last set of un resolutions led them to say. so we have got to keep close to the chinese on this. we have to say we recognize where you're coming from, you do not want either millions of north korean refugees fleeing over your border. you do not want to have south korea right on your border. you want to have a chinese ally in north korea communist state but this guy is dangerous to you and dangerous to us and i'm sorry but we are going to be forced to sanction these forms that are a part of your economy because they continue to make possible -- >> they may come as a video realizing that is not good for them to have him there either. and maybe they are getting closer to that. but we need to speed up the
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process in any which way that we can. do you think that there is the sort of within the administration, and i talked about the president because i think the president has made it very clear and you can go back to his "fire and fury" comment how much he detests this north korean dictator there but, also within his administration. is there enough of a willingness if you would, to do what we need to do?>> i think so. he saw this and medicines, inserted in the president's comments, i do not want to be critical of him, "fire and fury". but a little imprecise and james mattis puts a position into them by saying making it clear if you fire at guam, you're firing at us territory and that will be considered an act of war. i thought in many ways it was even more 's power for them with the president is saying. >> do think we will be at work at some point carl and his administration with north korea? >> you know what, my sense is no. because i do think that they
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made, this is a mistake on their part. this is a mistake for them to go out and embarrass the chinese. and it is also revving up the south koreans and at a moment when they could have been exploiting south korea's government interest in developing with north korea, they are angering the south koreans. they are spinning up the japanese and we have to remember, in this region of the world, for centuries, there has been animosity between the japanese and the chinese. and that has been animosity between the koreans and the chinese. and i don't mean for decades. i mean for millennia. and what is happening now is that these historic forces are being set in motion. they're going to ultimately result in a stronger japan militarily. post-world war ii era will be over. they will be stronger militarily and the koreans are going to be discovered the wellsprings if you will of their antagonism towards china and china doesn't want either one of those. >> all right well carl,
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interesting times in which we live. thank you very much. good to have your perspective. >> thank you. >> now let's look at what's coming up on the media buzz. >> good morning trish.a lot of breaking news this morning. look at how the presses back to the present is tough talk on twitter after north korea detonated a hydrogen bomb also the continuing fallout and rescue efforts for hurricane harvey. will speak with the houston chronicle and i were on jenkins about the personal challenge and emotional toll of dealing with such a calamity. that is all coming up on "mediabuzz". next our political power panel will weigh in on what could be north korea's most powerful nuclear test ever as we look ahead on "sunday morning futures". (woman) when you have type 2 diabetes,
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this photo that you're looking at from the rogue regime reports to show kim jong-un with the warhead. that's bring in our panel for election.a former white house -- good to see both of you. a horrible situation that we just wish you know if you can go back to the 1990s and prevent them from being able to access the stock in the first place you would. and if the situation that we find ourselves in. >> the administration has been faced with a dilemma. eisenhower made a decision to take this off of the table and ever since then every single administration at some point in time has at its best that we come over to one of the actions that take them out and everything is the same thing. as steve bannon went out the door one of the things he said,
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you want it were in korea, be prepared for this. south korea is like a hostage situation. there are 25 million people in seoul and the surrounding area. there are 50 million people in the country that are 25 million people, most of those in the north are deleted with the military coup they can destroy hundreds of thousand people in seoul, them the situation we face. it is not just them coming at us. >> you heard ambassador bolton earlier he said look, you have seoul or chicago. there may be a point where we are making some very extremely hard decisions. >> did not appoint within threatening as they are talking about in sooner or later they may be. but today the issue is, if you're really thinking of our decisions are, do you want to start a war? and we will have to start it. argue that they made the first moves but if you're going to do it, we can take them out in one week. we can put three or four ohio submarines and block the country. but you will kill millions and millions of people.>> so
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let's talk about strategies other than that. with that mean, getting kim jong-un out of the picture?in other words changing the regime to a regime that would not be aggressively trying to acquire nuclear weapons? and could we do that? i mean do we have the capability to go and, swoop in and say okay there will be a big clue and someone else is in charge. >> i do not think that's possible. as we pointed out -- >> why not? do not have the intelligence? >> we don't what china does. you cannot tell me that china does not have generals on their payroll. you cannot tell me that china knows everything about what's going on within that country. china can tell the generals you know what? you get to live, kim gets to die, we will establish our own government. this way we can control the north. and once kim is gone, will have some stability in the northern section of the peninsula. >> as that at all a realistic option? >> i think it is it china has the will to do it.
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we're not even close to putting the kind of pressure on china that we should be. and i think the president is going to talk to us shortly saying that this doesn't work but we need to put the full-court press on china. we need to bring the world together and say that any active aggression on north korea will be seen as an aggression by china. and with sanctions now they are nowhere near crippling as what they could be. >> frankly i mean this is great that everyone assigned him to the sanctions but these are kind of a joke.>> and his people have starved for a long time. was not he can make their life more visual but the bottom line is when 52 fight was russia had the north, they wanted a communist country they still want a communist country. as does china and at the end of the day, we may be able to get rid of him but you cannot get rid of transits you cannot commit troops to go into a place i definitely do not want america to lose troops. >> china is the answer. as we been savior of the show, there is much, much more that can be done in terms of economic sanctions.if they
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want to. we can make them want to do it, right? >> we have tremendous leverage. >> will have more with you in a moment. do not go anywhere. we will continue looking at this situation ahead on "sunday morning futures". when i started taking the chantix that urge just slowly diminished and it was a great and empowering feeling. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you've had depression or other mental health problems.
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discussion about north korea and what to do now that the regime has said that they have tested a successful hydrogen bomb. i am back with our panel. put in perspective, why this is so concerning? >> the hydrogen bomb is much more serious. we made the decision to drop atomic bombs and that after korea we were not going to --
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we still have more than any in the world but we do not use them peers it was no threat if you do not use them. a hydrogen bomb is much more sophisticated of a weapon and easier to make at this point in time. even the test this morning that set off to earthquakes in their own country. that was pretty significant. he is on a fast track, not afraid of us. he is to a certain extent nacve and that is the reality. >> brad, what does he want? what is the goal here just to be an international player and scare the heck out of the region? >> the goal is for us to cave and accept north korea as a nuclear power. as john pointed out earlier, once you do that, it is exported to every desperate in the world. it gives him the power to show that he has been accepted by the world. it gives him the power to sell technology or weapons outright to rogue nations. this cannot happen.the world needs to come down on china. china if they turned off the top on north korea, they would
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be at their knees in a week. china created a monster. now they have to tame it. >> so he himself, he is a different relationship with china, does he not?>> this the grandfather was the founder. and the bottom line, his father had a great famine and basically put the country in a third world. his uncle who raised him -- >> and he murdered the man who raised him. >> he murdered a lot of generals. and when he thinks basically that is not his friend or ally. he is a very paranoid guy. >> how much more complicated does it make our situation? you are talking about our intelligence. he is out murdering anyone in his vision that he thinks might be a threat or might not be entirely on his team, is china's intelligence at all
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compromised? >> of course! without -- they have to work that much harder. they have the proliferation of intelligence operatives in the area. but let's remember something else. look at what china is doing in the south china sea. they are building military installations. they are building a blue ocean navy. it is not the isolation of north korea acting badly. it is china as well. >> right, and so we need to do something about china. china holds the key to north korea and this is a confrontation that will have to happen. given what china is doing from a military perspective as you point out. >> the only thing you can do with china is put economic pain on them in some way shape or form. >> economic pain. there is much, much we can do. we have only sanctioned one bank. >> this is the only thing we were dealing with it would be gigantic. but we are dealing with so many
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things on this front. do not think they don't know the president is in texas with the flood for this serious disaster. >> good to see you.thank you. still to come, the one thing to watch for in the week ahead on "sunday morning futures".
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trish: back with the panel. >> there's a lot going on right now. what you think is the biggest thing to watch for. >> they're coming back and congress has a lot on their plate. the debt ceiling, the budget the budget, healthcare, infrastructure. promises made must be promises kept. 2017 is the year of action. ed: if they don't get tax it will be terrible. trish: other wise you look like you can't do a darn thing. that would be a tragedy given they have the majority. north korea will be something we'll be talking about a lot in
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the coming days. i'm trish regan. i'll see you every day at 2:00 p.m. on the fox business >> of the fox news alert, james madison threatening a quote massive and overwhelming military response against north korea as the rogue nation claims it has detonated what would be its most dangerous nuclear weapon yet, i had your bomb. it can mount on missiles that may be able to meet the u.s. welcome to news headquarters. i'm our cell. >> and i michael. the regime setting off a mac the blast in the northeast regain what south korea agency has called an artificial earthquake measured at 6.3 by the u.s. geological

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