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navy seal. from 9:00 until noon, the brian kilmeade show. we have a lot of great guest lined up. i don't want you to miss a minute. thank you for tuning in tonight. we will continue to follow this for as much as we can. some the questions need to be answered. we will get them all to you. thanks for watching, everybody. >> trace: it is the horrifying sound of rapid gunfire, music, laughter, within seconds, chaos and carnage unfold, and once again, our nation's witness to another senseless mass shooting. >> i thought it was fireworks, and then it just didn't stop, and i was like, that is not fireworks. people started running, and we asked what was going on, and they said it was a shooter, and we realized -- it sounded like machine guns. >> trace: good evening, everybody, i am trace gallagher.
we are coming to you live, not far from where not 24 hours ago, a packed crowd of unsuspecting concertgoers. at this moment, we know 59 people are dead, more than 500 injured. but we still don't know what triggered this massacre. tonight, we will meet some of the people who witnessed the bloodshed firsthand, they will tell you what it was like to be trapped in this virtual battlefield while friends and loved ones lay injured or dying. >> you thought it was a part of the show. it sounded like fireworks, firecrackers, it sounds exactly how it was and then you see everybody talking, and then you here -- once you hear the music cut off, you knew it was real, and you see bodies dropping in people getting trampled. it is one of the craziest things. i saw people in front of me get hit with bullets. my first thought was to make sure everyone was okay. >> trace: you saw people in front of you get hit with bullets.
plus, the latest on the investigation of this man, he is a suspected killer. police tell us they found an arsenal inside his hotel room. they found explosives inside his home. what motivated him to carry out the deadliest shooting in modern u.s. history? >> as this event unfolds, we have determined to this point no connection with an international terrorist group, as this investigation continues, we will continue to work with our partners to ensure that this is factually, thoroughly, and absolutely investigated. >> trace: they will investigate, but tonight a nation mourns a nicety is in shock. it's a feeling that people of las vegas are not likely to get over any time soon, given the very wide scope of this tragedy. fox news correspondent claudia cowan is standing by in las vegas las vegas city hall, the scene of a candlelight vigil honoring the victims of last nis deadly violence. she joins us with the very
latest on the investigation. claudia, what have police uncovered so far about the accused gunman? are they still convinced this is the book available? >> they are, trace. at this point, i can tell you on this beautiful, balmy night, las vegas is in the grip. we watched the dust will arise and now, it stands at 59 souls with 527 wounded, either from bullets, shrapnel, injuries they suffered when they were trying to escape. tonight, police are conducted during a massive homicide investigation and trying to figure out what drove 64-year-old stephen paddock to conduct such an act of senseless violence. they are processing four crime scenes, including a home near remount wow reno, nevada. the streets are closed. we know that investigators recovered more than 40 weapons from the hotel room at mandalay bay were he positioned himself to open fire on the crowd of
unsuspecting concertgoers below. at another of paddock's home in mesquite, nevada. neighbors that he was a professional gambler, and that has garage how to see if the size of a refrigerator. his family said he was not political or religious, no history of mental illness, but the mayor tonight called him a mad, crazed scumbag. we know he had been planning this massacre for some time. tonight, people are gathering at prayer rituals like this when that happened earlier at city hall. sharing their grief and anger but also expressing resilience. yes, the city is heartbroken, but the people here are courageous and determined to persevere and tonight, trace, i can tell you that hashtag vega strong is trending. back to you. >> trace: claudia, thank you. as we wanted of the top of the hour, 59 people were killed in this massacre. if you look at the numbers, if you look at the scenarios, the death toll could have been
extraordinarily higher, had it not been for the very quick and valiant efforts of first responders and the vegas medical community. tonight, hospitals in the region are operating in high gear as doctors and nurses, all medical staff, working to tree to the hundreds of people who were wounded. fox news correspondent jonathan hunt is live at university medical center. jonathan, how are doctors bearing with so many patients on the hands? >> tonight, at this hour, trace, i can tell you that here at university medical center, 12 of the victims of the concert carnage are still fighting for their lives. 104 victims were brought here in total. as i said, tonight doctors still doing everything they can to save the lives of those 12. it is a similar story at hospitals across las vegas. the medical community has been extraordinary.
this university medical center is the only level one trauma center in las vegas, and that is why many of the most badly wounded were brought here. i spoke to one surgeon earlier tonight. he has been here for many years. he has treated many gunshot victims. he has never seen anything like the wounds that were brought in by the dozens last night. listen. >> this is a large caliber weapon from a high-powered rifle, the type of damage you see in the abdomen, the spread of the shrapnel, this was not an ordinary street weapon. >> because of the severity of so many of those gaping wounds, and urgent plea went out early today, trace, for the people of las vegas to donate blood. they answer that plea and extraordinary fashion, just a couple of blocks from where we are now. two mobile blood donation units were set up and people stood in
line for anything up to eight hours to give blood. they have not given enough, officials say they are okay for now. they do not need any more blood donations for at least 24 hours. that is just one example of the extraordinary outpouring of love that has meant this extraordinary act of hate. we have seen people bringing water, bringing protein bars, bringing anything they can to help those who are left wandering here, looking for their loved ones, the ones who are grieving, and anybody who wants to help. so many people in las vegas tonight, trace, doing whatever they can to feel that they are helping. one more demonstration, trace, that the worst of times so often
brings out the best in the american people. trace? >> trace: jonathan, the outpouring has been astounding to watch. i am wondering, it really did start last night. we heard these amazing stories of people who had wounded people in front of them and they were trying to stop the blood with their fingers and they were using their shirts as bandages and i am wondering if, while the medical personnel you talked to, if they ever alluded to that? the fact that some of these people may have been saved by their comrades, by the people who were around them and the concerts, who may have tried to stop the bleeding, and it worked just long enough, jonathan? >> absolutely, trace. we have heard that again and again from the staff here today. and it's not just be acts that they did right there and then, as you say, trying to stanch the bleeding. many people just showed up in pickup trucks and other vehicles and just loaded those who were severely wounded onto their vehicles and brought them to emergency rooms around the city because, as you can imagine, with so many wounded, somebody so badly wounded, the ambulance services in the city were beginning to be overwhelmed. they needed all the help they got -- could get, and they got it from the people of las vegas last night, and again throughout
today, trace. >> trace: we talk a lot about at a divided country, but boy, and cases like this, it sure does not seem like that. chief correspondent jonathan hunt live in las vegas. jonathan, thank you. it was nothing short of chaos when the gun men opened fire, but police were very quick to act. in short time, able to assure the panic stricken crowd that the lone gunman must no longer a threat. now begins what is likely to be a very long investigation into the background of stephen craigie paddock and a lot more. joining us now is randy sutton, retired lieutenant with a las vegas police department. i was just talking to jonathan about people on the way they acted, and the whole idea of the heroism, and the people though my police officers on scene, they were running toward the gunfire why they were getting pm the gunfire. i know you would have been the same, still working for the las vegas metropolitan police. are you ever astounded at your colleagues and former colleague
colleagues' heroism in cases like this, randy? >> i'm not a standard at all. i would be astounded if they didn't. last night, it's my understanding that there were a number number of out-of-town police officers there, as well. you are probably aware that one of our law enforcement metro police officers who was off duty, attending the concert, was killed. there was another who was working, who was critically injured. then there were police officers from several other agencies, california, arizona, who all -- all -- along with a number of retired military people, stepped into the fray, and did their best to get people to safety and there was a great deal of heroism. trace, i think we will be hearing stories about some of these heroes for literally years to come. >> trace: yeah, i think we
will become as well, randy. i often wonder about the investigations in cases like these because we all want answers. we are in a 24-hour cycle, we want answers, we want them now. was he connected to terrorism? what was the motivating factor? when you hear that a man was able to bring in, i mean, an arsenal of ammunition inside the mandalay bay hotel, 23 weapons, may be converting some of those weapons to automatic weapons, what goes through your mind? would that be possible in your scenario of las vegas? >> you know, this shows how dedicated this individual was to accomplishing this crime. there had to be a tremendous amount of work put into this. first of all, he had to get these weapons, perhaps he used a golf bag, perhaps he had the weapons broken down into smaller parts and reassemble them, by putting them in a suitcase.
but that's a huge amount of firepower. and then think of how much that ammunition, because he extended a ton of ammunition, how much sideways and how much -- over three days or forgo days that he was in there, he made numerous trips to bring this weaponry into his room. he took a hell of a chance, too. remember, maid service comes in, they see something like that, they will probably say somethin something. he had to hide it, as well. it shows that he preplanned this to the point where he had this thing ready to rock and roll. >> trace: we talked about this all day, randy. people were saying his family was like, maybe he just snapped, i'm thinking, no, that is not the way you snap. you don't go for forgo days in a hotel room, bring an arsenal of weapons, absolutely, methodically plotted this thing out, where you have a sweet, you
must open two windows, turbo different angles on the crowd below you. this was extraordinarily well thought out. i just want to get your take, randy, if i can. the sheriff said something interesting today. he said there was a security team that went in on the 32nd floor and that the gunman actually fired upon them and had one of the security guards in the leg and then they backed off and they waited for s.w.a.t. to come. i am wondering from your expertise, as soon as water comes in, is that it? is at the moment for the gunmen says, i'm done, i'm going down now? >> this individual really showed his cowardice as far as i'm concerned. he is a punk. he opened fire with heavy weapons on men, women, and children, didn't have the guts to face the metro police when they were coming in to get him. instead, he took the cowards way out. this is not an unusual set of circumstances, under these type of incidents.
here's the thing. once those law enforcement, police officers, took fire from inside the room, at that point, they don't have any choice. that is that is a s.w.a.t. call. s.w.a.t. has not only the expertise of my training, but they have their training, and the briefing materials to blow open that door. at what point did he turn the gun on himself? was that after he heard the explosion? we don't know that yet. i think probably we won't know that -- we may never know the outcome actually come up with the autopsy have to show something. he took the cowards way out, trace. >> trace: yeah, it is, it is one of those things where you think, well, he had a lot more ammunition. the police, because of their
quick reaction, they saved a lot of lives. he could have gone on for hours and hours. randy sutton, former lieutenant with the las vegas metropolitan police department. good to see you, thank you very much. >> always a pleasure, trace, thank you. >> trace: joining me now are two eyewitnesses to the tragic shooting. i understand you two were in the vip tent, in fact, i heard you this morning, what began, and you were talking about this riveting scene, you were in the vip tent, take us there would happen from there for you to were in the vip tent closest to where mandalay bay, the shooter was. all of a sudden, we heard three round bursts, and it sounded like a crack of an amplifier, something, too far away to sound like a firearm. all of a sudden, i got closer to the corner of the tent, closest to where it was, all of a sudden, you heard relentless gunfire, like, magazine after magazine. just raining down on everybody, you could hear the bullets
ricochet, i heard that going through the tent flaps, it sounded like. it was terrifying. >> trace: for heroism that we talk about, russell, are you of the same mind that this was just a total act of heroism all the way around? people doing the right thing wherever you looked? >> i want to -- i am originally from lexington, kentucky, i actually went to the country concert to be around these types of people. ex-military, a good old time. >> trace: right. >> every single thing i saw was heroism. every shape and form, big and small. i got to give nothing but that much respect and my love and admiration to the first responders. i thought police officers -- i saw police officers charging. in a world where everyone is kneeling, these guys stood up. they charged head-on into automatic gunfire. they knew what they were doing. they knew they didn't have the weapons to go up against that. but i want people to understand
that what these men and women did, even the slightest distraction capped countless lives from happening. this guy, hundreds of rounds. there was no escaping. there was 10-foot fences, we were trapped. it was a kill zone. >> trace: i think that quote will be hurt again as the whole world is kneeling, these guys were standing up. i am wondering about you, what was going through your mind? when you finally realized, this is legit, this is the real deal, what were you thinking? >> i mean, at first, i just thought it was fireworks, and no one was freaking out or anything and then all of a sudden, you just heard rapid gunfire, and i've never heard anything like that before. and i just froze, i fell to the ground, and his best friend grabbed me and just took me to cover and we were just making our way out of the vip tent when we could, like, when he stopped
firing, because there was a good -- he kept firing. like, 20 rounds. then when he stopped, we ran over to the concessions area and headed underneath the bar and kept putting our head down. i just -- so many emotions were going through my mind, i heard people screaming, and i could feel the ricochets around me, and the sand coming up, and it was just -- it was just a nightmare. >> trace: at the retelling of that brings back these horrifying images, even to those that weren't there. russell, i wonder if you look at this and you think, man, i could have made a wrong turn. a lot of people i talked to were saying, we didn't know where to go. we heard the gunshots, we didn't know if it was to get us to some other area and there was going to be explosions, we did not know where to go. did you feel like that? >> 100%.
honestly, i keep bringing up the fencing, the fencing was the scariest part. they made it a point to make sure no one could enter that facility, you know, fake tickets or sneaking in. but by doing that, it made it so we couldn't get out. everywhere he turned, every port of potty was taken, we were pinned down for 15 minutes, maybe 10 minutes before we finally were able to make it into the tropicana. even when we got to the tropicana, we had to run across the field, bodies laying everywhere, wheelchairs getting knocked over, old ladies, you couldn't stop to save anybody because if you did, you would get hit yourself. we finally got to tropicana, and security waived as an end all of a sudden, you could hear echoesr buildings and we thought there was another shooter. everybody started running toward us, and there was only one way in and out of the festival to begin with. it's just, overall, it was just carnage and chaos everywhere.
i can't explain it. >> trace: really, it sounds horrifying. i guess, i should ask you the book and question, i ask you what it was like when you realized it was real? when you got to the tropicana and you realized that you are safe, what then goes to your mind? >> we still didn't feel's safe there. it wasn't until i made it to my car where i had my firearm, we jumped in the car and took off, but when the feeling finally came about, it still hasn't hit us. we haven't slept yet, maybe a couple of hours, i had maybe 20 minutes, but you shut your eyes, and the things you see -- i mean, there's not a movie that i've ever seen that can show what happened. >> trace: i've got to go but i want your last reaction. what are you feeling right now? >> i am just still in shock, just that we even made it out of there, because so many people didn't.
it was just -- just to see that kind of thing and to be in it, you can't even describe it. it still replays in my head and hearing the videos with the rapid-fire, it just plays over in my head. it's unlike anything anybody can describe. it's just horrible. >> the cops saved us. they did. >> trace: we said and ask this question, we do not know how we feel, we never will, to be in your shoes, but we're glad you're both alive. our hearts go out to those who didn't make it and they go up to you. we wish you both the best. thank you both. >> thank you. >> trace: the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history, a night that will be forever etched into our nation's collective. [gunfire]
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>> trace: welcome back to the live continuing coverage of last night's deadly mass shooting in las vegas, at least 59 people were killed, more than 400 injured renee shooter opened fire at the crowded route 91 harvest music festival. for the latest, let's bring in caroline shively on the las vegas strip near the mandalay bay hotel and casino, where they shooter opened fire from the 32nd floor. caroline. >> hi, trace. the investigation has so much farther to go. you can see the light of the room behind us, some flashes earlier in there. it appears they are taking pictures, going over the scene. counting the guns, 23 guns found in that room, even more found at his home. it's a terrible scene out here. you can't see it in the dark was walking through and seeing blood issues and ripped up clothing, this is basically the escape route for thousands of people who were trying to get out of the carnage, as mothers were throwing themselves on top of their children, teachers were
throwing themselves on students, first responders doing cpr, everything they could to save themselves, to save their friends and families, , and strangers. listen to what two people had to describe earlier of the sea may sell last night. >> we thought it was a part of the show. it sounded like fireworks, fire crackers. once you heard the music cut off, you knew it was real and you see bodies dropping come of people getting trampled. >> everybody said hit the floor, everyone was laying on top of each other, trying to get out of the way. the shots just kept coming. >> trace, what strikes me the most was the access, that first responder who was giving cpr, and who got shot, the husband who pushed his wife to safety and was also shot and killed, the woman who was dragging her 4-year-old child, yelling to people, "i've got a baby" and a part of the way, an amazing seed of humanity amongst the carnage.
trace. >> trace: every story you were here, caroline, is more heartrending than the next, more heroic. just an amazing group. for all of the tragedy, people walk here and they just held their heads high and they said a prayer for those who didn't make it and they said, good for you, for those who helped out. caroline live at the las vegas strip. the brother of suspected gunman stephen craig paddock says that although he did not own several -- he owned several guns, he was not a gun collector. 17 guns at his house. the brothers that he never showed signs of being violent. so what could have triggered the worst mass shooting in modern u.s. history? with get some insight from a a fact don't -- doctor, what are your immediate thoughts when you see and you hear about a crime of this
magnitude? >> there is one thing, there is a common thread through all of these events, regardless of ideology, motivation, or intent, psychosis runs through all of it. when this person starts the action of killing human beings, they are no longer a human being themselves. they are sociopathic. they lack any human empathy. that continues until they take their own life. with the absence of -- empathy is also the absence of fear, making it easy for them to take their own life. >> trace: i wonder, i have been covering a lot of shootings, and we have done mass shootings, school shootings, and the shooters in general tend to be male, they tend to be younger men. when you see or hear somebody who is 64 years old do something like this, it breaks the mold. it is something that i have ever seen before, especially someone whose biggest crime that we know of and life so far was a traffic ticket. >> it is unusual. you don't know what haunts the
human mind. what somebody has been developing through years. advances after ego. the investigators in this case are going to be exploiting every bit of technology and information because everybody, the country and these victims, have to have context as to why. >> trace: i want your opinion on this, dr. zapor, we look for -- the first thing we look for, is it terrorism? and then you think, what was the motivating cause? what is the first thing you are looking for when you look at scenarios in cases like these? >> never jump to conclusions on the intent. sometimes the intent is a cover for some other type of form of hatred, personal animosity, personal fantasy that could be covered and terrorism, some kind of false belief, and only the information, and it will take time, can really start developing a picture. if there ever is one. in reality, the owner of the
context of this event is the mind of the killer who is gone. >> trace: we go over this again, this is a guy who spent for cody's in this hotel and he suitcases full of ammunition and weapons and he scouted this concert area, and he knew there were two windows and if you busted holes in both of them that he would get better angles. what do you make of the mind-set that went into this? this thing was absolutely planned to the minute. >> it is pretty incredible. you look at the preplanning, premeditation, thought process that went into this, and the fact that obviously he had to go through some type of counter measures to conceal or have a cover for what he was doing and what he was bringing in there, really breaks the mold in those terms, as well. you don't have that extensive planning until you get into a multisubject conspiratorial type of event like terrorism. for a singular actor to go
through this extensive planning process, and really know how choice this venue was going to be for this insane murder event, was a lot of planning, and it's different than contemporary events that have happened. >> trace: i heard it several times today. i heard "broke the mold" several times today. i'm sure we can put the mold back together and find out more about the mentality and the motivation. dr. zapor, good of you to join us. thank you, sir. >> thanks, trace. >> trace: our nation mourns, as it once again bears witness to get deadly gun violence. when we come back, what our leaders in washington have to say about the worst mass shooting in modern american history. next. -ahh. -the new guy. -whoa, he looks -- -he looks exactly like me. -no. -separated at birth much? we should switch name tags, and no one would know who was who.
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>> trace: i look around here, i worked here 25 years of old, i met some of my best friends, i met my wife, i've always enjoyed coming back here. the city has this amazing energy. you look around at these casinos, and the energy has dropped. this is a town that is in mourning. by all accounts, the shots rang out a few minutes before 10:00, so almost 24 hours after the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history, at least 59 people killed, more than 500 wounded by a gunman who unleashed a hail of bullets onto a crowded music festival on the las vegas strip. as investigators in las vegas work to figure out how and why this horrific tragedy happen, the trump administration and d.c. lawmakers held moments of silence at that nation's capital to honor the victims of this senseless act of violence. for more on the response, let's bring in kelly wright in new york. kelly. >> trace, good evening to you.
sadness goes out to everyone who deals with this, as all of america focuses on this horrific tragedy that has taken place in las vegas. once again, and unimaginable horror has caused america to be in a state of shock and grief. the white is held a moment of silence on the south lawn earlier. president trump offered comforting words for a nation in grief, calling the attack pure evil, while reaching out to console americans. >> over unity cannot be shattered by evil. our bonds cannot be broken by violence. and though we feel such great anger at the senseless murder of our fellow citizens, it is our love that defines us today. and always will. forever. in times such as these, i know we are searching for some kind of meaning in the chaos, some
kind of light in the darkness, the answers do not come easy. but we can take solace knowing that even the darkest space can be frightened by a single light and even the most terrible despair can be illuminated by a single ray of hope. melania and i are praying for every american who has been hurt, wounded, or lost the ones they love so dearly in this terrible, terrible attack. >> is the nation mourns, the fbi is involved in the investigation now, using its rapid forensic processing to determine what the shooter may have been thinking before carrying out his massacre on an innocent lives. and while that search for a motive is underway, a political battle is now brewing over the issue of gun control. >> this is an unspeakable tragedy. today is a day for consoling the survivors and mourning those we lost. our thoughts and prayers are with all of those individuals.
there is a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite. >> but for some people, the former astronaut mark kelly, with his wife gabby giffords, who was shot during an assassination attempts, six years ago while serving as a congresswoman for arizona, they have been pushing for dialogue and gun control. >> if not now, when? right? i mean, gabby and i have all of those folks in our thoughts and prayers. we had over 50 americans die, 500 more injured by gunfire, probably from a caliber round that can fly through multiple people and caused mass carnage. when you were not talking about an idea like this, how many times can we say that over and over again? "now is not the time"? well, today is the time. >> president trump is not discussed politics, instead he quoted scriptures, saying the
lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. he went on to try to comfort people. he will travel to las vegas this wednesday. a trace, one can only guess with the president will be doing, offering more consolation and trying to bring healing to america. >> trace: sure, kelly. we go back to columbine, we first arrived there so many years ago and the first debate that gabe was the gun debate and it still goes on. it is not going to change. this is the way that we had all these issues. there is morning and then there is debate about what went wrong and how we change these things. kelly wright come alive in new york. thank you so much. tens of thousands of people were at the route 90 music festival when the shooting began, among men, people of every walk of life. our next guest is colin donahue, an army reservist who just returned from iraq, only to find himself back under deadly fire
at home. collin, you have probably got more perspective on this than anybody. you come home, you served in iraq, you know what it's like to be under stress. to be in dangerous situations, and you come here looking for a good time, and you end up in this. what is going through your mind when suddenly you hear the gunshots? >> i guess, few words can describe it. i came back to my hometown, las vegas is my city, and you are coming for a country concert, and to have this happen in your hometown, you are just getting back, it was really, really unspeakable. it is still surreal. >> trace: what did you do? when you were there, and you saw these people getting hit, i know that you are intrinsically come alight, i got to react, do something. what is the first thing you thought about doing and what is the first thing you actually di did? >> so i stopped, i gained my
composure, try to figure out if this is actually happening. i saw jason aldean take him across stage. then i turned around and a guide to my left was shot, and i looked at him, i was like, what happen? he said i just got shot in the leg. i looked at her and i said -- i guess this is real. after the first volley, after the first first volley of gunfe majority of people docked, covered, try to run to cover and concealment. it became surreal. there were tons of people trying to help out those who were injured. after the volleys ended, everybody scattered and people were running, trying to get out as quickly as possible. there were tons of prior service members, reservists, cops,
doctors, trying to help those who were in need. i am only one person. there were a lot of other people there that were putting forth more effort than i could ever imagine. it was a surreal experience. i would never want to wish it upon anybody to see what we saw, it was a horrible, horrible, horrible moment in my life. we were able to take care of people. >> trace: i am wondering, collin, it seems like it is this innate sense where you have to get involved. there are these people that have to get out, and you have to be among those as a military person, you have to be among those who are helping. the police are running toward the gunfire, and the military are looking to help anybody. do you feel like it is just something in you, and your colleague's dna you can easily have turned and ran east, ran toward the airport with thousands of other people, but for some reason, you feel like you are better off staying?
>> some of the training that was put through by the united states army helped me with it. i'm not sure, ten years ago had or not but in the military, i don't know where i would be in regards to my actions taken. the training with the mass casualties, and my experiences of the military, you run to the fire, you don't run away. i could think the united states army for the training that i received and i was just trying to help. there were tons of other people that were doing the same. >> trace: and you helped. we've been hearing these stories by you and the people like you who have helped so many and i was talking to one of the correspondence, colin, who was saying that he was talking to the medical staff at the hospital at university medical center, and the doctors were grateful because when these patients arrived, they actually had bandages on. they did it just arrived, they
had bandages that were ripped shirts, they had people putting their fingers in bullet holes to try and stanch the bleeding, and it is stuff like this that saved so many lives and you were among those. as horrifying as this whole situation is, it's got to make you feel good about your fairly humanity, the way that they responded to a situation like this. is it not, colin? >> after the pure evil that we witnessed last night, we are strong, resilient people. at the end of the day, you know people were going to stand up and they did. i ended up being one of those people and it is what it is. we just have to press on and it's a crying shame that it actually happened here, happened anywhere, to have it happen in las vegas, you would never expect anything like that. we are -- my prayers go out to everybody, if if you were impad and effective, it's just a horrible experience.
>> trace: my last question, colin. i know you are a las vegas guy, and i said earlier how i worked here for some years and i have great friends here and i think the world of the city. do you think that this city, like boston, like so many others, will come back stronger? >> we are going to have to. i think that without a doubt we will come back stronger. there is no reason not to, there is no reason. if you live in fear, you're not going to live. there is no reason to not come back stronger. in my opinion. >> trace: colin donohue, great talking to you, pleasure, my friend, thank you. >> thank you for having me on, sir. >> trace: a nation and shock, the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history leaves at least 59 people dead, people in nevada and across the country are now trying to make sense of a senseless act of violence. >> i don't know if i have words to describe what we are going through and what these poor,
>> we saw jason run off stage, and people all over on the floor, the grassy area in front of the stage, some more falling, some were screaming and wailing and running, and we were in this tower and everyone said, hit the floor, so everyone was just laying on top of each other, trying to get out of the way. the shots just kept coming. >> trace: the outcome of the shots just kept coming. 64-year-old stephen paddock is the suspect behind the las vegas mass shooting. police say he opened fire from the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay and casino, killing at least 59 people before turning the gun on himself. assistant clark county sheriff says officers have found 23 firearms inside the hotel room and firearms at least another 17 or 18 at his home in mesquite, nevada, about 75 miles north. the home that he bought to
retire in, that he was living with his girlfriend in. they were not all rifles, but a mix of handguns and long rifles. as we have been talking about all day, some of them may have been converted to automatic weapons. we are hearing tonight for the first time from one of the gunshots where paddock bought one of his weapons and apparently, he did not raise any red flags. here is part of the owner's interview with st. george news in salt lake city, utah. watch this. >> tell us about this guy. what happened? >> just a normal everyday customer, walked in the doors, give me three or four different times, looking around, average, everyday joe blow, nobody that stood out, no red flags, nothing to that effect, came in, ended up purchasing a shotgun, took him three different visits to purchase the shotgun. no red flags, went through the entire background check, all different safety checks were checked off, fbi passed him
through the system. >> how long ago was that? >> back in february is when he came in. >> any other purchases made by him? >> he didn't make any other purchases. the only thing he purchased was the shotgun. >> that one transaction is the only time he's been in? >> no. again, he came in multiple times into the store, he interacted with the staff at dixie gun works, came in a couple different times, looked at the shotgun specifically, the third time is when he purchased. >> what kind of shotgun wasn't? >> just a shotgun. >> how did he seem? >> normal. there was nothing that stood out. we have lots of code words between the staff here at dixie gun works, if there is something that stands out to us that we'll throw up a red flag, we have denied purchases of firearms for people that are really sketchy or just something doesn't add up and make sense to us, so with him, we didn't have that feeling, none of the staff had any red flags whatsoever. >> trace: didn't have that feeling. average joe blow. past the background tests, right? he was just an average guy who
walked in. again, we did the same research. this was a guy whose biggest crime, at least in the past ten years that we could find, what the traffic ticket. videos of the massacre in las vegas have now flooded social media, first-hand views of the chaos of the scene and the panic felt by the tens of thousands of people under fire. but what we could not see was the chaos after the shooting, as hundreds of people flooded into emergency rooms across las vegas and thousands of doctors and nurses fought to save these victims lives. for now, we would like to bring in alice benjamin, an e.r. nurse specialist draining me from new york. i know that this is old hat do you come a brand-new for a lot of us. when you see some type of a mass casualty situation like this, there has got to be a priority list, what is the first thing that you are doing? the first thing you are looking for? >> with all the training i have,
there is no moment where i am prepared to handle this. the mental devastation that happens is beyond belief. what we do, we look to make sure that someone is breathing, that they have an airway, circulation, then we look at their disability. in this case, it was gunshots and fire. there was tons of bleeding, and our mission is to stop the bleeding. if that bleeding ensues, it can lead to shock that can cause a lack of oxygen rich blood to vital organs and result in deat death. >> trace: you know, we hear the stories about how many heroes came out of how many people help. they were -- we saw, i can walk back there and there are shirts and things and bloodied garments around here, people died so much to try and stop the bleeding, using their own clothes, using their fingers to do what they could. we had medical people tell us today, one of our correspondence, that is a good thing, people did a good thing and they may have saved lives. >> absolutely, they saved lives. that is the first thing you do in an incident like this, when there is bleeding, you want to stop it. i want to commend everybody that was out there that stopped
quickly, took their shirts off, put their fingers and holes to stop the bleeding. stopping the bleeding could have saved someone's life. in situations like this, stabilizing the patient and getting to the hospital is what was needed and that is exactly what people did. i have seen stories, people who wrote income of people taking them to the hospital. although i am a first responder, paramedic, a lot of the people, everyday americans out there our first responders themselves and they saved plenty of life that night. >> trace: you can help us out because i know it is nice to have the first responders there but they are not enough of them. the people did their job. i'm wondering, bullet wounds are very difficult. you hear dr. say, bullets get in there and they do a lot of different stuff, they are very difficult to treat. can you give us a little bit of insight on why is it so difficult for doctors to treat these bullet wounds? >> depending on the firearm that was used, for handguns, a bullet
usually shoots straight into the body and you can determine what the extent of the injury is. with automatic weapons like this, they are meant to explode once they enter into a body. a fragment and shatter bones. they rip vessels. they destroy tissue. it makes it very difficult to look at a bullet hole, a bullet wound, and see one whole and not understand what is going on inside because all we see his massive bleeding. automatic weapons are really causing plenty of destruction. it makes it very difficult, and it's why it's important for people to get to a trauma center where they have surgeons, anesthesiologists, radiologist, all of the expert teams to respond quickly and save that person's life. >> trace: when you woke up this morning, new york is three hours ahead of us in las vegas, when you woke up this morning and you found out about this, what is the first think i alice, that went through your mind? >> i was devastated to see this happening. i have a girlfriend who was at the very concert with her
husband. i called her after and asked her how she was doing it you gave me personal accounts of seen bodies, having blood on herself, and taking people, couples and your hotel for safe haven. it was very personal for me because i had a dear friend there. taking care of individuals on a day-to-day basis as a nurse, i almost wanted to teleport myself to help people because i know in mass devastation like that, it is very difficult to think clearly and do you think, what do i need to do to save someone's life? that is how first responders are trained. airways, breathing, circulation, disability. getting in there, triaging, getting people to a higher level of care. >> trace: alice benjamin, we wish you could have teleported here because we could have used you. thank you so much for joining us. it's great insight. great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> trace: thank you all for joining us for our live coverage of the deadliest mass shooting in modern u.s. history. just think about this for a few seconds. 59 people are dead.
more than 500 others are wounded and we do not know how many of those will survive. but we know that most of them will because of the work of their fellow citizens in vegas. i am trace gallagher in las vegas >> sean: welcome to the live breaking news addition oil with "hannity." a mad man opened fire on the country music festival in las vegas, killing 59 and injuring 527 others. in the most deadly mass shooting in american history. assisting the victims and determining a mode of catherine herridge, claudia cowan, trace gallagher, laura ingraham, sebastian, david clark, kaya jones, they were on stage just before all this happened and eyewitnesses willen