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from the white house, "the story" hosted by martha maccallum in new york starts right now. ♪ >> martha: breaking tonight, president trump about to take the stage to talk about, we are told, the greatness of america. he will also rally support for his tax cut plan, vital to the success of year one for his presidency, he will do that at the heritage foundation in d.c. where you see everybody gathering. i martha maccallum, we are going to take you there live in moments. first tonight, our story begins in rocca, where it was a huge day as the isa stronghold all but fell to u.s.-backed syrian forces. the radical islamic group once referred to by president obama president obama -- dominated a caliphate that stretch from syria to iraq, killing
thousands, some by drowning, some by being set on fire, mass beheadings. their story is far from over, but rocca is no doubt a huge development today. here's president trump on the news today and then back on the campaign trail at the end, watch this. >> i totally change rules of engagement. i totally changed our military. i totally changed the attitudes of the military and they have done a fantastic job. isis is now giving up. they are getting up, they are raising their hands, they are walking off. nobody has ever seen that befor before. you fight isis first. you have russia, iran, you have them with a sod and wisteria. if to knock out isis, they are chopping off heads. these are animals. >> martha: chief national correspondent ed henry live at the white house with the back story. >> good to see you, as a candidate, president trump was repeatedly mocked by democrats for saying he had a plan to
defeat isis but was not going to share to the public because he did not want to tip off the enemy. well, here we are blessed to a year into his administration, the plan is being implemented another enemy is on the run. let's remember that enemy, isis. carrying out a series of atrocities during the obama administration including a particularly horrific one in which they took a jordanian pilot hostage, put him in a cage and then burnt him a life for all the world to see. the same enemy that then-president barack obama had dismissed at the jv team even though the terror group then begin wreaking havoc around the mic around the globe including discussing videos of that beheadings of james foley and stephen. being cautious not to declare mission accomplished, though we are getting reports from fighters firing celebratory shots in the air as they kept this terror group off of the throats tonight. telling is "more than 90% of
raqqa is in stf control." that's referring to the syrian democratic forces, as president stomach candidate term premised on the campaign trail almost exactly one year ago tonight that he would defeat them. >> we are getting rid of isis. isis -- we have no choice. by the way, not since medieval times has anyone seen a chopping off heads, drowning in steel cages, burying and sand. not since -- not since medieval times. it all grew during the tenure of obama and hillary clinton. >> while this is a win tonight, the hunt for isis leader abubakar a body guy despite all kinds of air strikes targeting him, he has not yet been killed or captured to our knowledge so there are still many challenges ahead for men and women in uniform. pentagon officials telling us tonight that isis had put improvised explosive devices on the ground hidden all around the
city of raqqa. it could take years to clear that out without more injuries, or death. if there is a lot of work to be done but this is a big victory tonight. >> martha: absolutely. thank you very much. here with more tonight, karl rove, former chief of staff to president george w. bush and marie hart, both are fox news contributors. great to have both of your tonight as we wait for the president's speech to get started a few minutes down the road. i want to start with you, i heard general jack keane talk about this this morning and he said it took the obama administration far too long to deal with isis. he claims that the administration was too concerned with possible adverse consequences of their actions and he sees president trump's action as decisive and effective, what do you say? >> i think it took the whole world by surprise how quickly they were able to take territory in iraq and syria back when they first really rose to prominence. after our administration got a better sense of what was going
on we did put in place a plan that we see being carried out now. the plan to retake raqqa was put in place during the obama administration. president trump has done something -- he has made some tweaks around the edges, but this is the plan at the military has had in place for a long tim time. ed is absolutely right, this is a big victory. >> some of the military would say that they weren't allowed to do what they believe they could do and i want to get you in here, even president bush said he would listen to his generals, had daily conversations with them. we did not see that the obama administration. >> the reason isa spread so rapidly in that map without recently across the syria and iraq was because 2012 for political reasons the obama administration withdrew our military forces from iraq. does anybody think that if we we had kept intelligence gathering and assets and military trainers and military coordinators, that as an organized column of isis approached him also that american firepower and
leadership could not have felt the iraqis keep them restrained and not allow them to take that. right after -- literally the city boundaries effective. president trump did two things. first of all, he made clear that we are going to take action, and we saw that, unlike what president obama said, that's a redline that they dropped gas on their own people. when the syrians dropped gas on their own people under this president he immediately took action, and then he listened to the military and unleashed them on the mission they could do, which is setting up a force of syrians to work with american trainers and american assistance to do what we saw today. let's not kid ourselves, the battle against isis is going to continue. they've been kicked out of raqqa but just like al qaeda, we will face these people for years to come. >> martha: they've moved down into the euphrates river valley. that's what they have migrated while this area has been bombed and hit so ferociously. you also have the russia element. they recently retook the city of
my of -- also a stronghold of isis. and i have the battle between russia and iran and the syrian forces backed by the united states for control of syria. >> the syrians have -- it's going to continue regardless of the fact that we have retaken raqqa. i think the realtor from isis, to respond here, isis would never have existed if its precursor hadn't been able to flourish after we invaded iraq back in the bush and administration. this has a longer history than the obama administration. to be clear, i think the isis ideology having spread to europe, to africa, to asia and these lone wolves who have maybe ever even gone to syria. >> martha: you have a great point. this came from the am i five general director andrew parker in the u.k. today. he says the u.k. has seen a dramatic upshift in threats, from islamic terrorism this year reflecting attacks that have taken place in westminster, manchester and the london bridge. he goes on to say -- he said the threat is multidimensional,
evolving rapidly, and operating at a scale and pace that we have not seen before. that's a terrifying word. >> it is. unlike al qaeda, which really wanted people who are going to carry out terrorist attacks in the names, to commit them, train with them, isis doesn't care. they are fine if you go online to get radicalized and then commit an attack and learning. these people don't have to go to syria or iraq and it's much harder to find folks like that, so this is going to be a very serious challenge in the west, across africa and asia. >> martha: i want to play something from the rose garden. the greek prime minister with president trump. a question by john roberts. watch this. >> you said the potential for a donald trump presidency "i hope we will not face this evil." i'm wondering after spending time with the president, have you changed your mind? >> i wish i knew that before my speech. >> the meeting that we had was very productive and not a moment today feel threatened at any time. >> a number of countries were a
little bit nervous at the beginning, and i have very good relationships with the leaders of virtually every country dealt with. >> martha: interesting moment. >> one quick moment, may i say that i was really taken aback by your audacious life suggesting that president bush was responsible for al qaeda and isis. islamic terrorism has been around for 20 years before he took office. you may have forgotten the attack in 1993 -- >> i was responding to what you said about president obama pulling out of iraq and that being responsible for the isis. >> for the spread of isis. >> isis actually started as a qi during the bushes administration. we have to -- >> martha: in terms of the greek prime minister saint president trump would be evil, he handled the moment while at that a lot of people were nervous coming in. >> if you go to europe during a particularly -- and what we call the new europe, eastern and central europe, there is a growing recognition that
america -- they want america to be more there but america is there in a way that they were afraid it wouldn't be. >> martha: thank you very much, great to see you guys, karl rove will be back a little bit as we watch this president speak tonight. there is a liable, the crowd is gathering this evening and getting ready a moment now. we do expect that the president will step to the podium and really focus -- he is going to focus on america, the heritage of the country and then he is expected to move on to comments about tax reform and the history of cutting taxes in this country in terms of economic stimulation. we will go there as soon as that get started. first the fbi releasing documents showing former director james comey may have decided the outcome of the hillary clinton investigation two months before he ever interviewed her. a former fbi assistant director under james comey, ron is here. former house oversight committee chairman jason, to react. also a big day today in a huge nfl controversy. the players and the owners draft
up over three hours of talks today to try to decide how to move forward on the national anthem protest. commissioner roger goodell just told the media next. >> will players continue to take any? >> that will come down to the individual. it's going to be an individual's choice, but i think the ownership, the team and the league, i think we're going in the right direction. ♪
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>> martha: any moment we expect to hear from president trump, he is speaking tonight at the annual gathering of a major conservative think tank in washington, d.c., we will take you there live as soon as that gets underway. first here tonight on "the story," the fbi is confirming former director james comey drafted a letter exonerating hillary clinton in the private email scandal several months before the investigation was even completed. trace gallagher with all the details here in the back story from our west coast newsroom. hi, trace. >> it's unclear exactly one former fbi director james comey drafted a letter regarding hillary clinton's email investigation, but we now know he sent the draft to his deputy director andrew mccabe, general counsel james baker and
chief of staff james rybicki on may 2nd 2016, which is more than two months before then-director comey issued this now infamous statement. watch. >> they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information. we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. >> at the may 2nd date of comey's draft letter is also well before fbi agents had conducted all the interviews of key witnesses, including hillary clinton. the existence of the comey draft is just now being made public by top ranking members of the senate judiciary committee, which is investigating president trump's firing of james comey. iowa senator just don't like chuck grassley and south carolina senator lindsey graham uncovered the document back in august and quickly wrote a scathing letter to the newly appointed fbi director christopher wray saying "the
outcome of an investigation should not be prejudged while fbi agents are still hard at work trying to gather the facts. the comey letter, which was unclassified, yet heavily redacted, also calls into question the former fbi directo director's senate testimony in june of this year when comey said the reason he publicly announced the results of the clinton probe in the summer of 2016 was to "protect the credibility of the investigation after then-attorney general loretta lynch and former president bill clinton had an unscheduled meeting on a tarmac in arizona. but that meeting happened 56 days after the draft letter, reportedly exonerating clinton, had already been sent. calls for comey to return to capitol hill for more questioning are now mounting. martha. >> martha: thank you very much. joining me now, ron hospital, who served as assistant fbi director under james comey until 2014, good to have you back in the program, nice to see you tonight. i want to start by playing this
exchange between james comey and congressman ratcliffe back in september of 2016. let's watch. >> did you make the decision not to recommend criminal charges relating to classified information before or after hillary clinton was interviewed by the fbi on july 2nd? >> after. >> i'm going to need your help in trying to understand how that's possible. to me, the only way that an interview takes place with two central witnesses, and the subject of the investigation, if the decision has artie been made that all three people in that room are not going to be charge charged. >> martha: quick question, what you make of that and the emergence of this memo that was written, exonerating hillary clinton two months before the decision was made? >> martha, one of the things the fbi does extremely well is produce paper. the director, the senior leadership of the fbi is in briefings for much of their day,
reading papers about significant cases and very often producing those papers to push further up into the food chain. i was a participant in that, a recipient and a briefer at time times. so these papers very often are the repository is maybe a portal, some sort of internal site that you have a number of living documents that detail the progress on significant cases. >> martha: the way this was read by graham -- a document that exonerates her and it was put together before two dozen witnesses had even been spoken to. i understand where you're are sort of working on parallel courses and kind of moving the evidence through, but if their interpretation of what this document is is accurate, it sounds like more than that. >> certainly, i think it would benefit us all to see the
document, see the contents of the document. >> martha: absolutely. >> certainly for congress to ask comey questions about it. but i think as you know, there has been a lot of discussion about intent, the intent element of the espionage statute that was at issue here. whether mrs. clinton had violated that intent element, whether there should be an intent element. and i think that it could well be that james comey, former prosecutor, a person used to creating lengthy prosecution memos and detailing the weaknesses and strength of the case could have been his own proactive steps here to document that very same thing, believing that the emails at the time or perhaps not showing that intent strongly enough for the fbi to recommend prosecution. >> martha: there were a number of key witnesses that hadn't been spoken to. we will see, and as you say we really need to see that document, which is not classified as far as i understand. hopefully we will get our hands
on it. thank you so much, good to have you tonight. there was more, jason chaffetz, former chairman of the house oversight committee and while he was in congress, called on the justice department to investigate the actions. he's also a fox news contributor. good to see you tonight. let me begin with a quick comment from your former colleague, trey gowdy, on this and get your thoughts on the whole picture. play. >> congress should look at this decision not to charge and whether or not it was made before you interviewed two dozen witnesses, including the target of the investigation. we need to talk to them again. >> and you agree, he needs to explain, rate? >> absolutely. you should come before the house judiciary committee or the senate committee with senator grassley and graham. john ratcliffe asked a very direct question and if you watch director comey, he gets very testy about this, but the fact pattern is that this memo was released for distribution within the fbi more than two months --
two months! -- before the interviewed hillary clinton. two of them had been sitting in on that meeting. they were given immunity and they got to act as her attorney, something that director comey also said in the history of his career he had never, ever seen before. >> martha: it really is so important in this conversation that we actually are able to see this document, because then you would get the tone of it, the finality of it. you could sort of ascertain whether or not it looks like a decision had artie been made because of course that has been a suspicion of a lot of people throughout the course of this, that it was just sort of going through the motions and we know we have to do this investigation, but we know we are never going to prosecute. >> any time you have an unclassified document that is redacted, that should raise a flashing red light to say there is something fundamentally wrong here. you couple that with the fact that judicial watch put in a request asking for documents relating to the termite meeting,
initially at the fbi comes back and says we don't have any documents. only then, to probably be caught and come back if they actually we have 30 of them -- 30 pages. those too have been redacted. really counting on michael horowitz, he has 450 employees, you haven't heard a leak from him, but come next year i think is going to come out with a definitive report. in the meantime, director comey needs to come back and explain this and congress should be able to see those documents. >> martha: have to leave it there, always good to see you. we are going to go to the heritage foundation tonight and there is president trump, he has just walked in, we expect it will be a moment here before he actually get started. some early indications are that he will talk tax reform and american heritage. he's beginning, let's listen in. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: because of that, i hear they had to make this room a lot larger quickly. that's great. thank you very much.
thank you, folks. and really, the dedication and leadership and devotion to our country has really been spectacular. we appreciate it very much. i would like to begin by providing a quick update on our economy. i don't think too many people in this room will be upset, but the stock market hit today 23,000. that's an all-time record high, so congratulations to everybody in our country. it's an incredible honor to be here tonight to celebrate this really wonderful foundation. just a few months from now you will mark the 45th anniversary of this esteemed institution. for nearly a half a century, you have been titans in the fight to
defend, promote, and preserve our great american heritage. few people have worked harder to protect this heritage then ed, a fearless defender of our constitution. where is he? [applause] >> president trump: thank you, ed. thank you very much. thank you. [cheers and applause] [applause] >> president trump: that's a very popular couple, i must say. i also want to express my deep appreciation to the great steve moore, who is with us tonight. where is steve? steve has been fantastic.
we've been working long and hard together. we are thrilled to be joined by many distinguished guest, including senator joni ernst and congressman rhonda santos. please stand up, where is ron? thank you for everything and thank you joni. finally, i want to express our gratitude to kate james, the walton and lake dedicated scholars and staff at the heritage foundation. thank you very much. great job. everyone here tonight understands a core truth, that for america to have confidence in our future, we must have pride in our history. as americans we have inherited a special legacy of freedom, culture, laws, traditions, and values. your organization is named the heritage foundation because you
understand that our glorious heritage is the foundation of everything we hope to achieve. you understand that human progress must be built upon a firm foundation of timeless truths. these truths are immortalized in our founding documents, and the most important truth our founders understood was this: freedom is not a gift from government. freedom is a gift from god. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: that is why we are here tonight, to rededicate ourselves to the defense of our god-given rights. [applause] >> president trump: we are here to ensure that we defend this legacy from any threat foreign or domestic that would seek to weaken our values, diminish our freedoms or
dissolve the bonds that hold us so strongly and firmly together. as our nation has responded in recent weeks to a series of heartbreaking tragedies, from the catastrophic storms, to the devastating wildfires, to the horrific mass shooting in las vegas. we are reminded that no destructive force on earth is stronger than the courage, character, and love of the american people. [applause] >> president trump: this is a time of great challenge for the world, but also a time of great opportunity. we can unleash the creative power of our citizens, unlock new frontiers in science and medicine, and usher in prosperity for communities all across our land. but to achieve these great things we must hold fast to the values that define who we are as
a people and as a nation. everyone here tonight is united by the same enduring beliefs. we believe that the constitution is the greatest political document in human history, and that judges should interpret the constitution as written. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: we believe we should preserve our history, not tear it down. now they are even trying to destroy statues of christopher columbus. what's next? has to be stopped, its heritage. we believe that america is a nation of opportunity because we are a nation of laws and we support the incredible men and women of law enforcement.
we believe that our great american flag should be treated with reverence and respect, and that young americans should be taught to love our country, honor our anthem and proudly recite the pledge of allegiance. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: we believe that strong nations must have strong borders, and that are most important job is to serve the needs of america and the american people. that includes common sense reforms like cracking down on sanctuary cities, ending catch and release, and very importantly, ending chain migration. [applause] >> president trump: the loyal, hardworking citizens of our
country deserve a government that shows them the same loyalty in return. finally, we believe that the basis for international security and peace is mutual cooperation among independent and sovereign nations. this is the mission i delivered in my address to the united nations. i told the leaders in that all that just like i expect and we all understand this -- and they finally understand it, because there was a great misunderstanding, that just like i expect them to put the needs of their country's first, i will always put the needs of our country first. [applause] >> president trump: that is why we are withdrawing from one-sided international deals like the trans-pacific partnership and the paris climate accord.
devastating to our country if we would have gone into those deal deals. my administration is working to strengthen old alliances and form new friendships based on shared interests, shared goals, and shared values. as a demonstration of america's will, we have passed historic increases in defense spending, you saw that just last week. [applause] because as ronald reagan said, we believe in peace through strength. we've made historic strides in the fight against isis, dealing them one brutal defeat after another. we are confronting dangerous regimes from north korea to iran. at last week announced our strategy to ensure that the
iranian dictatorship never acquires a nuclear weapon. [applause] >> president trump: and we have imposed tough terrorism sanctions on iran's islamic revolutionary guard corps. i also canceled the last administrations one-sided deal with the communist cuban regime and we will not lift sanctions until political and religious freedoms are restored for the cuban people. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: at the same time, we are confronting the socialist oppression of the regime, the problem in venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented. [applause] >> president trump: we stand in solidarity with the people of venezuela in the struggle for
freedom. here in america we are strengthening our own freedom by appointing judges to the bench who will support and defend the constitution of the united states. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: with your help, we have not only nominated, but confirmed the new supreme court justice, who is doing a spectacular job, neil gorsuch. we have taken action to repeal the epa's so-called clean power plan and we have ended, finally, the war on clean, beautiful coa coal. people going back to work, they are going back to work. over the last nine months, we have removed a job regulations at a record pace.
in fact, in nine months we have done more, they say, then any president in history, and there is more to come. we have statutory guidelines, we have to go by a period of time, but there is much more to come. and i believe in regulation, but has to be limited to what we need. we want clean water, we want clean air, it has to be fair. we also want, by the way, jobs. [applause] >> president trump: and our regulatory reductions are going to put more americans back to work and more lobbyists out of work. i don't know, there could be some lobbyist in this room, sorry. which is why regulatory reform is a crucial part of our drive to drain the swamp. on the economic front, we are upholding the legacy of america's greatest presidents, from washington to jackson, to
lincoln, by defending american industry and defending our american workers. we want more products stamped with those beautiful words and letters, "made in the usa." [applause] >> president trump: to restore opportunity and freedom, we must continue our campaign to repeal and replace the disaster known as obamacare. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: and i've been hearing that phrase for seven years. seven years i've been hearing it. so have you. and i got here and i thought, maybe when i sit down at that desk the first day, january january 20th, i will have something to sign. not as easy as we thought, but we are going to get it done, you watch. [applause] >> president trump: i'm
pleased the democrats have finally responded to my call for them to take responsibility for their obamacare disaster, and work with republicans to provide much-needed relief to the american people. while i commend the bipartisan work done by senators alexander and murray, and i do commend it, i continue to believe congress must find a solution to the obamacare mass instead of providing bailouts to insurance companies. [applause] >> president trump: after many, many years of government obstructing job creation, you have now and administration that promotes job creation and celebrates the dignity of work. [applause] >> president trump: unemployment -- and this is something so important -- unemployment is almost at a 17
year low. gdp growth reached more than 3.2% last quarter, and people said it would take years to get there. manufacturing confidence is at record levels, but our country and our economy cannot take off like they should and like it should unless we transform america's outdated, complex, and extremely burdensome tax code. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: the great heritage foundation has been at the center of several incredible tax cuts in american history. working closely with the heritage foundation, ronald reagan cut taxes to unleash the economic miracle of the 1980s. you understand that lower taxes mean bigger paychecks, more jobs, and stronger growth. at the heart of our plan is a
tax cut for everyday working americans. the first $12,000 for a single individual, and the first $24,000 for a married couple, will be tax-free. [applause] >> president trump: we are nearly doubling the zero bracket, and we substantially increase the child tax credit for working families, which so many people want, including my daughter ivanka. to save americans precious time and money, we are also simplifying the tax code. under our framework, the vast majority of families will be able to file their taxes on a single sheet of paper. [applause]
>> president trump: in addition to simplification, the other pillar of our tax plan is reducing our crushing business tax so that we can restore america's competitive edge. today our business tax rate is 60% higher than our average economic competitor. this is a giant, self-inflicted economic wound. that is why we will cut the corporate tax rate from 35% all the way down to not more than 20%, way below our average competition out there in this very competitive world. [applause] >> president trump: and for small businesses that file taxes as sole proprietors, as corporations, partnerships, we will cap the top tax rate and a maximum of 25%. [applause]
>> president trump: that's a tremendous reduction from what it is and i will tell you, it's the biggest reduction in taxes in the history of this country. [applause] >> president trump: for the more than 30 million americans n small businesses in america, our plan talks their marginal rate by about 40%. this will be the lowest top marginal rate in income tax rate for small and medium-sized businesses and more than 80 years. [applause] >> president trump: to maximize job creation for at least the next five years, we will allow our companies and our manufacturers to expense the full cost of new equipment in the year they buy it. one year, it's written off.
[applause] >> president trump: it makes me want to go immediately back into business. and yes, we are ending the horrible, and very unfair estate tax also known as the death tax. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: finally, we are going to bring back trillions of dollars currently parked overseas. you look at the money that can't come back into our country. i've been saying for years it's $2.5 trillion. democrats want it back, republicans wanted back, and they have for a long time. they've never been able to make a deal, lack of leadership. they've never been able to make a deal. we are putting that in our tax plan. i think it's going to be over $3 trillion, it could be substantially more than that, because if i'm saying to him a half trillion dollars, and i've been saying it for many years,
we know one thing, it's a lot more now. nobody really knows the answer, i will tell you. i think it's very substantially over $3 trillion that will be brought back in our plan and put to work in our country, not some other country. [applause] >> president trump: our framework provides a one time low tax on profits currently sitting offshore so that this money can come back right where it started, come back home to america, where it belongs. and believe me, we can use it in this country. we need it so badly for so many things, including infrastructure, which we will also be doing. we will eliminate the penalty on bringing home -- we have to do that -- future earnings. my council of economic advisors estimates that this change, along with a lower business tax rate, would likely give the typical american household
around a $4,000 pay raise, and that is money that will be spent in our economy. [applause] >> president trump: our tax plan will ensure that companies stay in america, grow in america, and higher in america. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: we will lift our people from welfare to work, from dependence to independence, and from poverty to total, beautiful prosperity. which is why we need the help of the heritage foundation, and everybody here tonight, to get our tax cuts through the house, through the senate, and to my desk for signature. [cheers and applause]
>> president trump: so you've got to call up your local senator and say, senator , dont give him a hard time. don't give him a hard time. it's going to be hard getting the democrats because they are obstructionists and they vote in blocks, but if we get the republicans we need, which is virtually every single one of them, because that's what we need, we will get that largest tax cut in the history of our country, and you will see things happen like have never happened before. we will have employment, we will have jobs, we will have companies moving back into our country, and we certainly will have companies leaving anymore, that i can tell you. so get your senator, call your congressman. you don't have to call wrong, i think ron is okay. right? you are okay? ron is good. most of them are good. i think we will get there, ron.
ron is incredible. so let's give our country the best christmas present of all, massive tax relief. and speaking of christmas, yes, you want to hear it? speaking -- i'm talking about christmas presents -- i will give you a bigger christmas president, at present. you will be saying merry christmas again. you will be saying merry christmas. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: you go to the stores and they have the red walls and they have the snow and they even have the sleigh and the whole thing. they don't have merry christmas. they don't have merry christmas. i want them to say merry christmas, everybody. happy new year, happy holidays, but i want every christmas. we will say it again, it's happening already, you know it.
you know it's happening again. this is our chance to truly make a difference. this is our opportunity to unleash a new middle-class miracle. this is our once in a generation opportunity to revitalize our economy, revive our industry, and renew the american dream. the heritage foundation can once again help make history by helping to take this incredible idea, this proven idea, this tax cut. making it a reality for millions and millions of patriotic americans. we know that when a hard working people of this country huddle in the break room at the rest stop, or at the end of a long shift, they take pride in knowing that the projects they work, and the
products they make, aren't just building business, their building families and communities, and most of all, they are building this nation that we all love so much. [applause] >> president trump: the fact is the soul of the country is found in its people, and we owe it to our citizens to provide them with a future of opportunity where they can earn a living with dignity and purpose. we want every parent to be able to care for their children, and we want every child to know a future opportunity, and we want them to have security, and we want them to have hope. we have it in our power to build this future together, and we will build upon the firm foundation of our great american heritage. as long as we remember who we
are and what we are fighting fo for, then we will never, ever fail. and as long as we have pride in our country, confidence in our future, and faith in our god, then our best days are you have to come. our values will endure, our communities were will flourishr people will prosper, and america, the land we love, will thrive as never, ever before. thank you to the heritage foundation. [applause] [cheers and applause] >> president trump: thank you very much.
thank you very much. [cheers and applause] >> president trump: thank you very much. thank you to the heritage foundation, and thank you to everyone here tonight. thank you to every american whose hard work and patriotism makes our country run. and again, god bless you all, and god bless the united states of america. thank you all. thank you. [cheers and applause] ♪ >> martha: there was the typical trump soundtrack and kicking in. if you can't always get what you want by the rolling stones. he's hoping that he gets what he wants in terms of tax reform. he laid it out there for the heritage foundation, part of a very concerted effort to go out and sell this plan.
he has done it to small communities in pennsylvania. tonight speaking to the heritage foundation, trying to rally their support, and their outreach as much as they can to support this bill as well. he was criticized for not doing this with health care, and he is definitely out there trying to make this happen for tax reform. joining me now marc theissen, former speechwriter for president george w. bush and karl rove back with us, both are fox news contributor's. gentlemen, when we start with you, carl. what did you think? >> it took him a while to get there. we had the conservative principles and a big dose of america first nationalism. i thought it was good. he hit the main points, cut the corporate tax rate to 20%. one point he didn't make that he needs to make, the people who pay the corporate tax rate are primarily the workers in the form of lower wages and smaller benefits and secondarily, the consumers were buying the goods or services of the company. when we cut the corporate tax rate, the first people who will
fill his will the employees of the company. a colleague of mine said taxes are paid by those who can't escape them. actually it's called the immobile factor of production and economics. workers can't escape the fact that their companies are getting taxed. then you talk about repatriation, the idea -- think about it, we are the only major industrialized country in the world that taxes foreign companies headquartered in it. if you are a german company that sells something to the united states, take it home and don't pay tax there. american companies tell something at a profit in germany, you get taxed in germany and then you get taxed again in the united states. having one of the largest, the highest corporate tax rates of any industrialized country. the president misspoke a little bit, we are bringing it down into just below the middle of the industrialized countries. there are lots of countries that are below us, korea, denmark, others that are below us. then making it into a
territorial tax system so we don't go back to this process of stranding these foreign profits. president said free trade. economists think it's an access stomach in excess of 4 million,n dollars. >> martha: mark, he said combining those two things, if you have that tax cuts and lower the corporate rate and bring the money back from abroad, $4,000 would fall to the bottom line for every family in america. >> i want to put karl in charge of writing it because he has the details of the thing down to a science. you could write the bill, karl. the problem we have right now -- first of all, this is a great speech. it's exactly what he had to do because he didn't do this on health care reform. he's using the pulpit to sell the american people, rally conservatives, rally ordinary americans around it and get it done. he's got to have more details like that. that $4,000 figure is a little bit shaky for most of the economist i talked to, and part of the problem is we don't have a tax bill yet. we don't know what the rates
will be for each individual group, so he can't really go out there yet and say in a credible way, if you are making this amount of money, this is how much your tax bill will go down. if you are making this amount of money, -- he's got to learn if he's going to pass that he's got to make it real for ordinary americans. the other problem he has to overcome in writing this bill is -- during -- the bush tax debate, president bush was able to say every single american will get a tax cut, and that's not true yet of this bill. you would: going out there saying if you are in the middle class some people might have a tax increase. it is not going to work, you have to get a tax bill that cuts taxes for every single american and no one can argue with that. >> martha: part of the issue here is that some locals would go away and when you look at the doubling of the child tax credit in the standard deduction and all of that, some people and may come out to not benefit. karl, when you put a number on that and say every family will
get 4,000 if your family doesn't get $4,000, that's politically difficult. >> they said on average. he's trying to make a point, he is engaged in this argument, who benefits from this. economists agree largely that the taxes are mainly paid by the workers. the question is it 40% of the tax burden, 70%, is it more? the argument is who is paying, the president would have been better focusing on that and not getting into those numbers just yet. >> martha: 's last quick? because this is exactly what he needs to do. the one thing he didn't do in this speech, he sort of dismissed democrats. one of the things we learned in obamacare is that 50 votes is not enough -- 52 republicans is not enough to get a good agenda through so he has to get those democrats. >> martha: great to see you both. quick break, we will be right back. ♪
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>> martha: that is our story for tonight. thanks for being with us. we would love to hear your stories, tweet me oozing the hashtag. backyard 7:00 p.m. tomorrow night. tucker carlson up next. ♪ >> tucker: a fox news alert, president trump has just finished speaking to the heritage foundation in washington where he has promoted a republican plan to reform america's tax code. good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." in just a minute we will talk about a meeting at the weinstein company in los angeles today. also, there is no information about the laws of vegas security guard who apparently vanished into thin air, one of the rare eyewitnesses inside the hotel, the latest on that. but first, here's part of what the president just said about his tax plan. >> our framework provides a one time, low tax on profits currently sitting on the shores so that this money can come back right where