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>> jon: fox news alert on new twists and turns in the russia investigation. >> melissa: to say the least. >> jon: getting interesting as we learn who was really behind the infamous trump dossier while the house speaker calls on the f.b.i. to stop stonewalling. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> melissa: a lot of news today. the story is changing fast. i'm melissa francis. president trump calling himself the victim. the hunt for incriminating material on him was originally funded by a republican during the primary season. then once mr. trump became the nominee, the clinton campaign and the dnc stepped in retaining a washington firm which is called fusion gps to dig up the dirt. >> we believe we are going to have this matter i think fixed within the next week or so and we believe that we will receive the financial records of fusion gps. we want to know a few things. number one starting with who
paid christopher steele, and if so, how much, and also who paid them? was it republicans, donors, republican or democratic donors, both. were they on the payroll of any russian companies? this is all very pertinent information to the ongoing russia investigation. >> melissa: peter doocy is live on capitol hill. what new details do you have? >> melissa, the former british spy who compiled 35 pages of unverified intel alleging collusion was gathering that information, the sensational claims on behalf of the clinton campaign. a clinton campaign lawyer hired a firm called fusion gps who hired this former british spy, christopher steele and put him on the case. this newly disclosed money trail means that the tables have turned on the russia story line according to republican allies of president trump.
>> what amazes me for a year the democrats have been whining and whining and whining and saying they lost because of the russians. now it looks like it is really their subterfuge and their ideas, their buying this dossier but the leaks that went to wikileaks on the clinton emails come from the democrats as well. maybe the democrats were the ones responsible for it. >> the president himself now tweeting what haps to be a reference to a segment on air. he wrote this. clinton campaign and dnc paid for research that led to the anti-trump fake news dossier. the victim here is the president. @ fox news. the lawyer who retained the firm, mark he lie as was also working with the dnc but the new guard at the dnc says they don't know anything about it writing tom perez and the new
leadership of the dnc were not involved in any decision making regarding fusion gps nor were they aware that perkins was working with the organization. hillary clinton's former spokesman not as eager to distance himself from this. i regret i didn't know about christopher steele's hiring pre-election. if i had i would have volunteered to go to europe and try to help him. there have been a lot of questions since last january about who commissioned this dossier, who wanted it, who paid for it. now we know it was the democratic nominee for president's team and they were trying to damage the trump campaign. melissa. >> melissa: interesting. peter doocy. thank you. >> jon: the link now between the clinton campaign and the democratic national committee to the trump dossier could play a crucial role in the current russia investigation. trey gowdy, chairman of the house oversight committee explains why. >> it is relevant who paid for
the dossier, it's much more relevant who relied upon it. my focus is whether or not the department of justice and f.b.i. relied upon an unsourced document to launch a counter intelligence investigation. i want to know whether the nation's premier law enforcement agency relied on a document that looks like a "national enquirer" prepared it. >> jon: jake sherman, senior writer for politico. those congressional investigations remain underway. how does it change the dynamic, this revelation that hillary clinton and the dnc were essentially paying for this dossier? >> two different elements here. the clinton campaign and democrats loudly said they had nothing to do with this. didn't know anything about it and it was not their work, which has now turned out to be completely false. that is one political dynamic that democrats will have to contend with and the dnc is
already contending with by distancing itself as the new leadership by distancing itself from the dossier. on the other hand, the special counsel, robert mueller, was not appointed because of this dossier. his investigation is kind of the leading the way here on this issue, trey gowdy and the house investigations and panels up here on capitol hill have taken a back seat to the federal investigation. but paul ryan saying the f.b.i. needs to fork over documents is a very significant step and a lot of lawmakers on capitol hill are going to latch onto that. this won't be the last thing we hear i imagine from republican leaders and top republicans on capitol hill. >> jon: this is the speaker of the house saying the f.b.i. needs to come clean. here he is talking to reuters. >> it is really frustrating. we've had these documents request with the had a ministration for a long time and they've been stonewalling. the f.b.i. and justice
department needs to give congress the documents it's been requesting and they need to do so immediately. >> jon: how does the f.b.i., which is a branch of the administration under the justice department, how do they get away with stonewalling on an investigation like this? >> this happens all the time in republican and democratic administrations where agencies and parts of the government stone wall and do not give documents that the congress requests. listen, congress has subpoena power and congress has the ability to really strong arm agencies and people into giving information. i imagine with all of this mess that has come from this dossier the f.b.i. and department of justice won't have much of a chance to hide and continue to not give these documents to capitol hill. >> jon: let's go back over the timeline a little bit. it's interesting. the anti-trump dossier, the research apparently started with a republican opponent of
trump's. that person hasn't publicly been identified yet. when it happened trump had the nomination in the bag the gps fusion organization went to the democrats and said hey, we started this investigation digging up dirt on donald trump. would you like it? the dnc and hillary clinton campaign said yes, bring it on and that's when the dossier was prepared and eventually leaked. do i have that timeline right? >> i don't want to -- i don't know the timeline like the back of my hand. it sounds like it what has been reflected in news stories. a few things. trey gowdy, what he said before is right. it's problematic if the f.b.i. and department of justice are relying on this information from a private contractor to start a federal investigation. it is not problematic, though, for generally speaking, i don't want to take any staunch positions here but generally speaking campaigns pay private
organizations to do background checks, to dig up dirt on opponents. that's not abnormal. it would be abnormal according to republicans that we speak to on capitol hill if the justice department was then taking that information and using it in an actionable way. that's what republicans are going to want to know. >> jon: this christopher steele who provided much of the information in the dossier was a former british intel agent the f.b.i. had used him before, trusted him and why they were willing to rely on some of his statements. so the democratic national committee is saying look, tom perez was not our chairman then and we weren't involved. therefore we kind of wash our hands of this. does that wash? can they get away with that >> listen, paying for intelligence or digging up dirt on people is not especially problematic, i don't think, from a legal or political perspective. what is problematic what a lot of people think, democrats have said they had nothing to do with this for a long time.
perez was not at the dnc but if the dnc did pay for it, that's something that republicans i'm sure here on capitol hill will want to talk to them about. >> jon: maggie haiberman from "the new york times." one of the people who has worked on this story for a long time tweeted that the clinton campaign lied in their participation in all this. very interesting. a lot of work ahead. jake sherman, thank you, from politico. >> melissa: two gop senators announcing not running for reelection next year. how will it impact the republican agenda in congress? tragedy on campus after an altercation during homecoming week at one louisiana university. >> it's a horrible tragedy. nothing that anybody would ever want to have happen.
>> jon: a student and his friend are dead after a shoot-out at grambling university. a female student called campus police to report a loud argument in the dorm area. when police arrived it was too late. both victims were declared dead at the scene. >> there is no place for violence here. we encourage our students to be safe, aware, to watch who they hang out with and to watch who is around at all times. this is a most unfortunate situation. >> jon: the shooter remains a mystery. police are interviewing witnesses. they believe the shooter is still at large. >> melissa: breaking developments after another republican senator says that he is not running for reelection. arizona senator jeff flake made the announcement on the senate floor yesterday less than one
month after tennessee senator bob corker said he is not running next year. what will it mean to president trump's tax plan? >> i think whether or not the tax bill passes -- i think it will pass -- will rise and fall with the merits of that piece of legislation. bob corker will not vote against a good bill and neither will flake because he doesn't like the president. >> melissa: joining me is ari fleischer, fox news contributor. what do you think of that sound bite you just heard? >> that's right. i spent 17 years on capitol hill. people don't vote on the basis of their relationships to one another but the policies. if it was all relationshipable john mccain would have voted to repeal obamacare. they vote on policy. >> melissa: the president's enemies and those on the left are making a lot of there is
all this infighting and people can't stand by president trump, you know, the way he is behaving. a lot of writers looking at it through a different lens. you look at politico. trump purges enemies and reshapes gop. virtually every republican now a trump republican. i mean, is he gaining a majority and creating a consensus by getting rid of the people who don't like him? >> too soon to say. this is what happens when presidents take over parties. they do start to reshape the party more in their own image. in the republican primary for president of the 16 candidates, 80% of the votes from the first caucus for last primary went to trump and cruz. they did the best. it is a changing party. the ramifications are unknown. we don't know how far it will go. make no mistake donald trump is reshaping the party for better or worse. for most people who vote in the
republican primary they think it's for better. >> melissa: i have listened to commentators say president trump, you are running out of friends. attacking people that are supposed to be on his side and it is going the make it harder for him to get his agenda through. if you had to compare today to the day that he took office before he tried healthcare, do you think he is in better shape or worse shape for getting his agenda through? >> he is in worse shape. the reason is because his popularity is down. he had a 45% approval, now it's in the high 30s. a more popular a president is the more easy to convince people particularly democrats running for reelection to be for you. if you are unfavorable is high and favorables are low you have less moral sway. what happened in the speeches yesterday particularly senator flake's speech, it was cotton candy for the cable networks for those who don't like donald
trump. they heralded it as a significant speech ever. how can anybody support what donald trump is doing? flake is right. but for most voters and that's where the party is, they thought flake was wrong and the evidence of that is he probably couldn't win in a race in arizona and that's why he is getting out. >> melissa: you know, i struggle with those favorable numbers because i feel like -- i think a lot of our audience probably feels still burned by the polls from the last election and there are those who say all those things are meant to influence not to reflect what's going on. do you really believe in the favorables as they are said today? >> i believe in the trends. whether he started at 45 and down to 39, the trend of all the polls is he is going in the wrong direction. presidents enhance their ability in that policy the more popular they are. one of the facts of the trump presidency. he has been very popular with his base with 35% of the country. a president wants to grow that. you want to expand your
coalition in addition to maintaining it. he maintained it nicely and expanding it if he wants to enact more laws. >> melissa: when i talk to people in the administration on background, they say that they feel more confident right now than ever before about getting tax policy by. and they feel more confident about this than anything they have had so far. when i ask them what do you think are the real chances? do you hear that same thing and do you feel the same way about him getting tax policy through? >> i do. i've been talking to a number of members of congress and senate and they recognize this tax reform is pass/fail. if they don't get it done what do they have to show? what is the purpose of our government if they cannot act on things that republicans have promised for decades? if they get it done i predict to you congress's favorable numbers will go up. the president's will go up and the economy can boom again which helps middle and low income people the most. that's what this job is about
ultimately. this exercise in tax reform is pass/fail. if congress doesn't get it done they will be in huge trouble. what is the point? why are they there? >> jon: in the middle of a war of words between president trump and senators flake and corker republicans try to put the focus back on tax reform. a key congresswoman joins us next. plus day three of the kate steinle murder trial. witnesses recounting what happened on a san francisco pier two years ago. what one woman captured in a picture she took prior to the shooting. >> it is about the steinle family and the incredible resolve they've shown through this entire process. we're going to do everything we can to bring this family justice. chip is nothing to worry about?s well at safelite, we know sooner or later every chip will crack.
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>> melissa: day three in the murder trial of an illegal immigrant charged with killing kate steinle. witnesses describing what they saw two years ago on a san francisco pier as the defendant jose zarate walked away after the gunshot that killed kate steinle. witnesses say he stood out because nearly everyone else appeared confused or was running toward the scene. earlier in the day, michelle lowe told the jury she remembered zarate spinning around on a chair grinning and laughing. as she and her family walked along the pier she heard a scream and saw a woman on the ground. lowe said she took pictures of the pier before the shooting showing zarate sitting in that chair and another showing
steinle walking near him. steinle's father testified monday that before his daughter died she asked him for help and those were her last words. while the prosecution says the shooting was intentional, the defense claims it was an accident that happened when zarate stumbled upon the gun that killed kate steinle. >> jon: just in as republican senators flake and corker hit president trump, white house budget director mick mulvaney said it is confident republicans will close ranks and pass a tax plan by the end of the year. >> you're optimistic tonight? >> more so i was yesterday when i found out the house was looking to accept the senate package on thursday. >> by the end of the year? >> more likely today than it was yesterday. >> jon: let's bring in diane black chairman and running for
governor of tennessee. >> i think there is a good chance here in the house where we do our work that we are going to be able to get a product out before thanksgiving. >> jon: there has been so much infighting within the republican party. we'll get to more of that on the senate side in a moment. there has been a lot of infighting within your party. can you close ranks and come up with a budget and tax plan? >> i don't know where the infighting is in the house of representatives because we still have discussions going. we all agree that tax reform is a once in a generation opportunity to give people their money back, the hard-earned taxpayer money they need to have in their pockets rather the government continuing to spend that money so we're working very hard within our committee of ways and means to make sure that we have a product out to our members and they can see that product and we are going to get that product done before thanksgiving. that's our goal. >> jon: you sell it as putting
money back in the hands of taxpayers, but by and large the democrats don't see it the same way. why did disagreement? >> i don't know what they are looking at. many times when they do talk about where they think that the money is going, when i look at their numbers, their numbers aren't correct. i don't even know why at this point in time they can really give you a scenario. they don't have all the information. i can tell you what we're doing in our ways and means committee is to make sure that those of the middle income and lower income are given relief from taxes. absolutely everybody pays more taxes than what they should. the emphasis is on the middle and lower income. >> jon: some of the experts have looked at some proposals out there and say it's possible that even some middle class taxpayers could see their taxes increase as a result of this. are you -- what is your thought on that? >> again, the numbers they're using. i've seen these numbers.
the numbers they're using without knowing where the brackets are and income limits are. until you know that, whatever you put out there is i guess fake news on tax reform. i can just tell you sitting in the committee and doing the work for over seven years now on getting a program and plan out there, that we are emphasizing and that is our goal is to make sure the middle and lower income taxpayers get a relief. as i say, everybody pays too much. >> jon: you are quoted as saying if some of the senators who are sitting in the senate now cannot support the president's agenda, they should just go home. are you referring to bob corker and perhaps jeff flake of arizona? >> i'm not referring to anybody specifically. but i will say again if you aren't doing the job. they haven't done the job. we've given them the repeal and replace. i still don't understand why you couldn't get something back on that. they have 12 appropriations
bills, they have repeal of dodd-frank. these are all things important to the american people. if they aren't doing their work then maybe retirement is the thing they need to do so we can get people in the senate that will actually do the work and do what the american people sent us here to do. i understand the frustration from by the president. i've talked to the president and vice president on tax reform and they're on board for us getting this done before the christmas holiday. >> jon: diane black, thank you for spending time with us today. >> melissa: nearly one year after president trump won the white house there is new research how americans are feeling and why their attitude is the same regardless of party affiliation. i was really surprised by this. our panel will weigh in. plus the widow of one soldier killed in niger now speaking out. what she has to say about the president's response. we're live with the story. >> it really is a kindness to
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mostly she said he was just a great father and husband. listen. >> i know that i married a true hero, whether it would have been on the battlefield or just in life in general. when you have true moral integrity and you care that much more other people that you are willing to put your life on the line, you are a hero whether it's over there or here. >> he is a hero. she talks about how tight knit the military community is and as hard as it was for her to lose her husband, she also agonized over the deaths of the other three soldiers because she knows their families, wives and children. she is following the investigation but not watching the news every day. the military is giving her some guidance. at some point she will want all of the answers but right now it's not going to bring her husband back. she is very aware of the controversy surrounding the
president and his conversation with another of the gold star wives. but she said quite frankly, she had a different experience. watch. >> so you are satisfied? >> i'm satisfied, yeah. i'm very grateful that he called and he spoke to the kids and i think just the excitement from that made it a little better even if it was just for a minute. so yeah, he was very gracious and i appreciate anyone who calls because, like i said, that takes quite a bit of bravery to call into that kind of situation. >> not just the president's bravery but also around the country they were really emboldened by the fact they had such outpouring of love and kindness from people that they did not know. >> jon: the grieve is so palpable and her husband sounds like a remarkable soldier. wow. trace gallagher, thank you.
>> melissa: with new research finding americans, regardless of party affiliation, seem to have a negative attitude right now. have you noticed that? the "l. a. times" writing about the nonpartisan pew research center study which found that more than 6 in 10 americans polled say they believe their side is losing more than winning on the issues that matter most and only about 1 in 4 think their side is mostly winning. that attitude might not be surprising from democrats who with the election no longer control any branch of the federal government. more strikingly republicans think they're getting the short end of the stick. joining me now is a democratic strategist and former president of young democrats of america and the media director, campus reform.org and former digital director of marco rubio's presidential campaign. thanks to both of you for joining us. what do you make of this?
>> well like i said i don't think it's surprising, melissa, that democrats are feeling a little down. obviously we are didn't win the white house and don't control congress. a lot of things we care about legislatively are being turned around such as epa, healthcare. but on the republican side it is also not surprising. i mean if you are republican with the control in congress and you have the white house you're thinking all this great legislation that's passed. that hasn't happened for the gop even though they've been in control for the last 10 months. lots of cabinet resignations, staff shake-ups. democrats picking up seats in special elections for state legislators in areas where trump has won and yesterday you had two u.s. senators rebuke him and say they were no longer going to run. this is unprecedented for a president of any party in any first year. >> melissa: do you agree with that characterization. >> i definitely agree democrats should feel like they're losing and they will continue to lose
if they push the narrative they've gone after. but when it comes to republicans, i don't necessarily think it's a bad mindset to have. nothing more dangerous in politics is complacency. if people feel the fight is over they don't donate to campaigns or knock doors and i think it's smart for republicans to not let the foot off the gas and president trump to keep the narrative we have to keep pushing and we can start winning. that's what will keep people motivated and get them to have that moving force behind making a difference. >> melissa: a great point and could be motivating to both sides. i talk to a lot of people exhausted by the rancor on every side and it has become so personal for so many people and so many families that they are just tired of all the negativity and back and forth and maybe no matter what your political persuasion is that's what they're feeling.
>> yeah. it is certainly after the 2016 elections, congress has a low percentage rating for a reason, lower than the president. and not a lot has happened legislatively. certainly not in the last 10 months and i think that folks are feeling like regardless of political i filliation, can we get some things done? there are things to get done in this country. economy, healthcare. things that matter to everyday americans. and when that's not happening, folks are like well, you know, this is rather exhausting talking about politics to begin with. >> melissa: maybe government is just not the solution. that both sides are looking for the government to solve problems and they are actually not good at that. what do you think about that? >> i think many americans feel they want the government to get out of the way and let them live their lives. republican elected officials are the ones that should be getting in office if people
want less government. when it comes to another -- when it comes to another reason people feel this way and feel they are losing on the right i think the mainstream media is to blame. president trump could have success after success and the mainstream media will have the same narrative. they won't cover it positively. they have made up their mind. when people turn on the tv and all they see is negativity surrounding the administration and republicans in general they will feel as if they're failing even if there are small victories. we can't let our foot off the gas. >> melissa: a glass half full society. maybe we're just pessimistic right now. >> i wouldn't be surprised if we're pessimistic. i think that on both sides of the aisle we're looking at what's not getting done. cabot says if republicans want government to get out of the way, they are elected and right
now they can't get anything done even to enact the policies that they say would help government get out of the way. >> tough to get things done when the democrats are filibustering every single thing. >> melissa: let's just have some candy, put on some costumes and trick-or-treat. or have a cocktail. i like all those ideas. thanks to both of you. >> jon: more on that story we just mentioned. the u.s. military giving more insight on the ambush that killed four american soldiers in niger. as more questions surround the attack. our guest weighs in. >> there are so many bits and pieces of information coming out. some speculation. watch me. ♪ i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ♪
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the ambush that killed four american soldiers earlier this month. meanwhile officials are hoping the investigation will help them understand why it took so long to evacuate the wounded. >> when they requested support, it took the french aircraft, the french were ready to go in 30 minutes and took them 30 minutes approximately to get on the scene. it is important to note when they didn't ask for support for that first hour, my judgment would be that unit thought they could handle the situation without additional support. >> jon: michael is the director of foreign policy research at the brookings institute. the belief is that the american team. they were accompanying soldiers from niger who were looking for an al qaeda recruiter, an isis recruiter in that part of the country, somewhere in there the mission got changed and that's where things apparently started to go south, michael. >> yes, i'm not surprised.
and i think common sense street judgment would be when you are in a war, this is a war across many different countries even if we haven't seen a lot of u.s. action previously in niger, when you are in this kind of conflict you are going to have ambushes every so often. the enemy is sometimes going to figure oust that he wants to attack you when he sees you coming and maybe he gets information you didn't think he would have. so in the specifics of what happened here certainly we need to go back and learn so it doesn't happen again. in the grand scheme of things i have to say i'm very sad but also a little philosophical. this is the sort of thing that is occasionally going to happen in a trans national generation long struggle against extremism. with boko haram and affiliates in that area this is not a part of the world spared such threats and won't be in the future, either. >> jon: the patrol stopped in a village in niger to ask for some local information
apparently they got some supplies and looking for the isis recruiter. the feeling is that somebody in that village tipped off local thugs as to the location of this patrol. the thugs came after them on motorcycles with machine guns and rocket propelled grenades and more fire power than the americans and the niger troops were able to muster to fight them off. that being the case, what do you do? do you go back and look for the informant or do you just try to learn a lesson? >> well, i think you have to assume in this kind of situation that not everybody in a given village will be friendly. i don't know why we would have assumed they would be. i'm not saying that was a american judgment on the ground. some of the press commentary seems surprised there could be a tipster. there are unfriendly people in this kind of a struggle. they will be everywhere you operate for no other reason than the enemy may have planted
these kind of people knowing if we weren't coming after them that the niger troops themselves might be. that's the kind of thing i would worry about. >> jon: the kind of thing our green berets do a lot, go out in small patrols. will it change the way they operate? will we look at more aerial assets and more cover for our troops in that torn part of the world? can you hear me? it appears we've launched our connection. we apologize for that but again our hearts are with those soldiers and their families who lost their lives trying to make niger a better place and trying to fight off the thugs and the war lords from isis who have taken over parts of that country. >> melissa: the war on terror far from over. but u.s.-led forces are gaining
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dossier claiming trump's campaign had ties to russia. others say it was outright smear. >> another establishment republican saying he will not run again. senator jeff flake slamming the president and mr. trump going right back at him. so is the president remaking the republican party? we'll hash that one out, too. >> such a busy day. in the house. study the initials b.k. #one lucky guy. top of the hour, see you then. >> jon: isis losing its stronghold on key cities in iraq and syria. the pentagon said a new strategy is largely the reason for the success. jennifer griffin is live with an update. >> dunford hosted more than 70 defense chiefs outside washington yesterday to discuss what comes next in the isis fight after the fall of raqqa. >> this is an inflection point,
not the end of the campaign. the next phase for us more broadly is to expand our information and intelligence sharing, a strong theme of today. again to make sure that we cut that connective tissue. >> president trump's envoy to the isis coalition says changes by the new administration sped up the islamic state's downfall including arming syria's kurds. >> it's moving faster and more efficiently and more effectively. significant changes made in terms of delegations of authorities. very important decision was made back in may about how to prosecute the raqqa campaign that the president made that allowed us to complete the raqqa operations. >> former defense secretary ash carter said the administration carried out a plan designed by the obama administration. >> the plan has been -- was laid out two years ago. and has been executed pretty much in the manner and on the
schedule that was foreseen then. and again the credit goes to first and foremost our military for carrying that out. i was always looking for ways to accelerate it. joe dunford, the chairman and i, were doing that. >> isis controls just 3% of iraq and 5% of syria. rex tillerson traveled to baghdad this week in an effort to diffuse tensions between iraqi forces and the kurds to keep iraq from falling into a civil war and preventing outside groups from filling the vacuum in areas now free of isis. today about 6500 isis fighters remain in iraq and syria, down from tens of thousands two years ago, john. >> jon: let's hope we can mop up the rest of them. jennifer griffin, thank you. >> melissa: a montreal man in traffic court today contesting a ticket for singing while driving.
>> it is worth it to see john dance. that is what he was singing at full blast in his car. who hasn't done that? we've all done that. we don't want to admit it, it doesn't sound good. did you sound good singing that when you did? >> i can't reach those high notes. >> here is what they told him. >> they asked me -- i said i was just singing. is it okay, i need your driving license. >> they gave him a ticket and they find him more than 100 bucks. he is fighting it.
can you imagine? >> you're not supposed to text while driving but singing while driving? what the problem? >> there is a short distance between singing at the top of your lungs and screaming sometimes, i guess. thanks for joining us. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. >> sandra: fox news alert, we want to bring you this, the latest estimate from the congressional budget office preliminary estimate or a score i should say on the alexander-murray health care market stabilization bill. it would cut $3.8 billion from the deficit over the next nine years. that is one major bullet point coming out of this. two, it will not have any significant impact, or you will not see any significant change to the number of insured. those are two big ones. cut the deficit by $3.8 billion and not significantly change the number of insured that the alexander-murray