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corporate tax cut, the phase in that they made over five years on the table. then he is now supposed to be in a second meeting with house speaker paul ryan. that is behind closed doors, i am harris faulkner. here's dana. >> dana: a fox news alert, briefing is about 30 minutes away is to hear more about the russian investigation. hello everyone. i am dana perino and this is the "the daily briefing" ." the trump administration pushing back hard after robert mueller fired charges against the former campaign chairman, paul manafort, and his business partner and another campaign advisor. now the focus of a whole lot of interest, correspondent jamie rosen has more, james. >> we have more on the papadopoulos plea deal in the person of sergi landgraf
the foreign minister. >> the meeting was about russian-american relations. i don't see anything illegitimate or illegal about it. in principle, i am looking with skepticism and lots of interest at the new and continuing report on how donald trump won the provincial election. >> the meeting cited were those taken by george papadopoulos. foreign policy advisor and candidate, and professor overseas were poorly introduced the young man to figures advertised as having strong crewmen connections. this all lead papadopoulos to arrange a meeting with russia with candidate trump and initiative the campaign rebuff your documents show papadopoulos guilty plea, the professor told papadopoulos as papadopoulos later described the fbi, they come of russians, had their own curve, that thousands of emails. today, the telegraph newspaper in london identify the professor as a teacher at sterling
universe university, includes numerous. this photograph edit by bold i compression group, a group that vladamir putin meets with often. the professor told the telegraph, who was upset by the claim about being attributed because they were quote incredible. also a laughingstock that he had introduced papadopoulos to a female russian national, described as a relative of president vladamir putin. while the most credentialed documentation, he nevertheless was a quick challenge to the official version of the 2016 campaign, laid out by the special counsel. >> dana: james rosen, thank you. we are learning more about russians campaign on social
media. facebook now says, 126 users may have been -- posts by russian backed up counts. also finding more content linked to russia, and senior executives from all three companies will testify before a senate committee moments from now. peter doocy is alive on capitol hill. period, how are lawmakers digesting this information. >> they are comparing the post to post by terrorists. the senator in charge of the hearing that will start within the next half an hour, lindsey graham, republican from south carolina, his head a statement where he says come the manipulation of social media sites by terrorist organizations and foreign governments is one of the greatest challenges to american democracy, and a significant threat to our national security and the 21st century. what do you do not? there's a careful balance of senators that they want to achieve between free speech and regulation, and we are hearing
about that from the senior senator from california, dianne feinstein. >> these companies are going to have to adjust what they do to meet the national security concerns of this nation. you clearly cannot have the internet used to interfere with an election. >> that is bipartisan. john kennedy will be asking questions today in the democratic -- he thinks he knows more about facebook and his wife does, wants to know more info. >> dana: how has the story changed since election day? >> it has changed a lot, because were the first things mark zuckerberg's said, on the newsd from did not have really impact on the election. he thought people do on their own life experiences exclusively when they were picking who to vote for. a little while after that, facebook did side?
decide they would root out fake news and then they admitted, their words $100,000 worth of russian bought facebook ads by a few million people, but they decided, original content by professional propaganda is directed towards 29 million users, potentially seen by 126 million after things were liked and shared. that is 1 out of every 23,000 pieces of content on facebook. does not sound like a lot, but it is in reach of the equivalent of more than half the people old enough to vote in the united states. that is a lot of questions for the executives today, about how they mixed it. >> dana: i have to ask him twitter is going to increase everyone's character account to 280 characters. i feel very strongly this is a terrible idea. i'm not for, i do not like him in a change the start to a heart. i don't think we need any more room on twitter. what is this all about?
>> this i don't think is necessarily to come up at today's hearing. you think about the very powerful people in washington, the president, who uses twitter. this doubles his ability to get something out. tribute foreign policy related, a nod to a senator, who is not helping him. twice as many letters or numbers to phrase, go after them, needle somebody. >> dana: i am okay with the president, although i like the rhythm with 140 characters, because we got used to it and to make sense to me. i think there's so much nonsense on twitter that we do not need more. >> the whole thing about twitter, it was a microblog. >> dana: it was fun to figure out how to use language to get it into that 140 characters. i do not know what i will be doing. i will never go over 140 characters. mark me. >> self policing, dana perino. >> dana: the president pushing against the charges in the m
ueller pro. joining me now come in kevin brady, who is chairman of the house ways and means committee, and sir, you're the most popular person in washington, d.c., right now. maybe you do not want to be. this is where the rubber meets the road. give take a grand plan and interests to a simpler tax code. is that getting harder with every hour? >> it is, because it is part of it. only happens once in a generation. it is worth it. i will predict that the tax reform will be more than 140 characters long, as we put it out. this is our chance to lower taxes on everyone, grow jobs and bring -- we want to see those jobs come back. it is difficult, but everything worth it. >> dana: do you think
everybody's taxes will go down to mccord there will be people in america that will go up as what the president because the biggest tax cut in american history? >> architects code is very cap located, so many deductions and loopholes. you can lower taxes in an area, and increase them, because all the mess. that is what we want to clear out. we want to clear out complexity and simplicity. what i do know. we can improve the lives of every american, dana, by lowering their taxes to keep more, simplifying it, and especially increasing pay checks that stagnant, because local businesses cannot compete. we know, getting this economy going is going to help everybody. >> dana: if marginal rates go up on dividends, capital gains, it really does go against
conservative philosophy, you do not want to dis- incentivize investment into the economy. is that a risk? >> i don't see marginal rates go up. for families, for example, the tax code is like an elevator, and every rate you pick up another tax cut, and as you go up, all of them count. rates can actually stay where they are at, and you still have tax relief, because of all the changes underneath. i like to say that rates alone do not tell the story. unlike the reagan reforms, which were focused on rates, they were awfully good. we are making a lot of tax relief underneath as well. >> dana: how much do you have to wait the senate's concern as you work on your bill. you want them to pass it. does that weigh in on any of your decisions? >> it does, but the president is very helpful coming up with a unified framework between the house and senate. that is very important.
a big moment in this process. we are writing towards that framework. we have slightly different approaches with the senate on how to hit the target? sure, but that is a healthy thing at the end of the day. we will reconcile the two differences and get it to the president's desk by the end of this year. >> dana: young senator collins who say, they will not vote for it i'm curious about the torts coe tax rate. is it negotiable? >> it is not in my mind. i am hopeful that for every lawmaker, there is an excuse to vote against. i hope the senate does not kill tax reform like they killed repeal of the affordable care act. the truth is, we cannot stay with the status quo. you know this. the terrible tax code that punishes everybody. he is our opportunity, work out
these differences, but america -- families moving again. >> dana: assault today, both france and denmark and europe, they are ahead of america by lowering their corporate tax rate, not lower than 20%, but to a point they feel is that imperative for you >> since reagan's reform was so successful, we have fallen from one of the lead countries o 31st out of 35 major economies. we are nearly dead last, and we still fall. we want to leapfrog america to the lead. we have to. these other countries are leaving us in the dust. that is why jobs in research and manufacturing is going overseas. this is not an option. we have to get this done. >> dana: president trump said today he wants and hopes for a sign to ed bill by the christmas
period >> move it off by thanks giving all of that. is tied to getting that going. >> dana: when read about your diet and "the wall street journal." it sounds to me you need a little bit more nutrition at the dinner table, because you have a lot on your plate. thank you so much, congressman kevin brady. we have too big live events coming up in minutes. sarah sanders said to briefed reporters at the white house and on capitol hill, three tech giants about spreading fake news during the election. new speculation about former trump campaign advisor, george papadopoulos. was he wearing a wire, and if so, is the white house worried about that? >> i think the reaction of the administration and how the system works, everyone is presumed innocent and we will see what goes.
>> dana: went we are minutes away from the start of a critical hearing on capitol hil capitol hill. top executives from three social media giants. facebook, google, and twitter are set to testify about russia's role in spreading fake news during the presidential election. my next guest says this is nothing new, and washington has been ignoring it for years. a fellow for the mitt romney campaign, you wrote an op-ed that our concerns should be far past the technology companies and the additional oversight and disclosure they need to provide. what you mean by that? >> the palm, dana, we are focused on facebook, twitter, and google, and they should tell us more about what they will do to prevent this. the bigger issue is this has been happening -- the russians have been spreading this information, but were doing it
in the eastern europe, former soviet republic, and western europe, and policymakers have been ignoring this, particularly during the obama administration, when more could have been done and wasn't done. we were left essentially the senseless only got to the 2016 election. >> dana: you reference this in "politico," the headline, 2014, demonstration got a report of russia's intentions to disrupt western democracy including the united states. are you saying, they should have done more going up to the election? >> absolutely. they should have been aware of russia's interest. goes back to a strategy, dana. the russians have a strategy to use this information against other countries. they did it throughout europe, and it's predictable. the chief of the general staff in russia. they basically said in 2013, this is our strategy. we are going to come at you with
disinformation, and we were not on the ball. we needed to do more, dana, and we need to do more. >> dana: but practically could they have done? if you want to spread disinformation on facebook, i can do that -- on twitter, it will give me an extra 140 characters. >> part of it, we need to be more aware and what social media companies know, this is a problem. we need to know, you look at companies like sweden. they have been dealing with this paid what had they done? they have a government agency that is focused on identifying disinformation and letting the news media no. they teach kids how to identify disinformation from russia. other countries focus on russian disinformation. women slowed to the punch on a government wide. >> dana: the trump
administration has resources that they are not using. what is that about? hello, lanhee chen? i think we may have lost him. that is a bummer, he was saying, there is money at the state department that could be used for this thing, and sweden, that they do to fight back against propagation and disinformation from russia, but is not being deployed. sorry to lose lanhee. we will take you to sarah sanders press conference. and tech companies on the hot seat over russian meddling in the 2016 election. we will bring you more on that. ♪ there's rocket mortgage by quicken loans.
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>> dana: the trump administration is facing new questions about the mueller investigation. as we await the white house briefing. robert mueller sending a message with -- >> he has been wearing a wire or tape-recording his conversations with bodies that were involved in the campaign for president trump, with any connections. i would expect both tapes into service at some point later, and i think that plea agreement and indictment itself are basically shot across the bow. >> dana: constitutional lawyer and former white house counsel under present reagan and george h.w. bush. i read your work. from a legal standpoint, in the indictment about papadopoulos, the use the phrase, proactive
cooperation. what does that signal to you? >> it means he is likely to be a cooperator, wearing a wire for weeks. i read the plea agreement, and that did not yield any information. it is obvious, he was a brash, young volunteer, who was introduced and having candidate trump go to moscow. he was being told, and in the plea agreement by his campaign supervisor, to cool it. i think this is a dry hole. >> dana: also, when it comes to rick gates and manafort, it doesn't show any collusion in activity that predated their involvement in the trump campaign. a question for you. if you are special prosecutor, your test with what you have. if you uncover what you know is illegal activity, even if it is
not brought forward very often. the are you obligated to indictr should you let that go? >> of course, dana. it is important for your viewers to know, he was fully aware of the allegations in this indictment in 2011 and 2012, and obviously made a decision not to initiate the prosecution. the question is, is the prosecution going to judge, discretion, any different in a case of a special counsel. i would volunteer, of course it is. it should not be this way, but perhaps the men to indict is more zealous. it is a week indictment and any respect. >> dana: you do not think mueller will be successful is prosecution against manafort and gates? >> i don't think he will be unsuccessful, but there's a lot of weakness in overcharging.
it is the biggest indictments i have heard in a long time. >> dana: do you think there is more to come or they do not have much? >> that the latter. they do not have much especially on money laundering. it is one of the reasons have not had any criminal prosecutions in a long time. it is very much often a matter of opinion, whether it is distributable or not. money laundering depends back to whether or not -- what is known as specified unlawful activity, which you need and money laundering otherwise it is a financial transaction. it is all tied together. >> dana: my last question, quickly, do you think tony podesta is looking for possible indictment as well, or that was unrelated? >> i believe given the way the special counsel, there is good
chances sb 23 will be indicted. another point, it tells me there's no cooperation between stirling, sergey mueller , and gates. because everything happened with papadopoulos. >> dana: thank you, david rivkin. all eyes around our capital. the white house briefing start with the senate hearing. tech companies with russian spreading fake news around social media for your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is the number one selling brain-health supplement in drug stores nationwide. prevagen. the name to remember.
>> dana: we are moments away from a critical hearing on capitol hill, top executive from facebook, google, and twitter are said to testify about russia's role in spreading fake news during the presidential election. back again is lanhee chen, and we have is audio working for thank you for sticking with us. a question for you. these hearings are quite unprecedented for these tech giants. what is the mood like out there on the west coast but the possibility of a republican led congress and administration could actually be looking at possibly regulating these companies? >> there is concern, because i was the any time washington gets involved in something, there is reason to be concerned. i think the bigger cricket to my question, yes, they should be doing more. they should certainly be telling people about what happened during the election. they need to be taking proactive steps as twitter and facebook have already announced.
the bigger issue fundamentally, what are we doing at the government, as a society to ensure we have the proper processes for cyber hacking that the russians, but not just the russians, chinese, the north koreans. all sorts of state-sponsored threats. do we have sufficient defenses and what our capacity is to defend against their attack? that is the bigger question in my mind. >> dana: how far behind is america at this effort? hello? how far behind is america at getting this done? >> we have a ways to go. i think we lost a lot of time, frankly, during the lesson administration. if you remember back towards the 20 campaign, your idea obama folks mocking that russia was our number one geopolitical fall, it turns out his assessment was right. we have opportunities. certainly to move forward, as
long as these policymakers get on this right away. >> dana: thank you so much for being a part of this. we'll dip in and listen to lindsey graham. >> time to talk about good and bad things in our lives, and i would like to say, all of you, even wrenched america. we have more information available to us, because of what you do, we can find any question answered with the bill. we can share aspects of our lives with those who mean the most to us, and we can talk among ourselves and 140 characters. some better at that than others. some people should probably do less of it. the bottom line is, these technologies also can be used to undermine our democracy and put our nation at risk. the platforms that i just described add value to individual america come alive, and our country can be used by terrorists to recruit, people to their cause, can be used by
foreign governments, we have seen an example of that in 2016. to create chaos within our democracy. information is power. ideas are the essence of democracy, the exchange of ideas. being able to criticize each other, it is one of the things we cherish the most, but what we have to be on guard as a nation, is having people who want to undermine her way of life, using these platforms against us, and i think this is the national security challenge of the 21st century. here's what general pretorius said about jihadists online. jihadists have shown to exploit and accurately to make an adequately governed spaces. they're showing the vast largely un's export spaces in cyberspac cyberspace, increasingly expert technique and showing limits of
basic axis. it is clear, counter extremism efforts and other initiatives to combat extremism online have until now been inadequate. i think that is a fair statement. the purpose of this hearing is to figure out, how we can help you. i believe each of you in your own way i have taken these problems seriously. the one thing i can say without a doubt, but we are doing collectively is not working. yet a former government, buying thousands of dollars worth of advertising to create discontent and discord in the 2016 election. you have foreign entities going to websites to create fights among americans but we do not have enough to fight over on our own. the bottom line is, these platforms are being used by people to wish us harm, and wish to undercut our way of life. if you are a man like vladamir putin, democracy is your worst nightmare. if you live in vladamir putin's russia, sharing information about what is good and bad,
about your government is something you dare not do, because you will not last very long. to those who wish to undermine the american way of life, they have found portals into our society, that are intermingled with everyday life. the challenge of this hearing and the focus is, how do we keep the good and deal with the bad? we will never be 100% perfect, but the goal is to be better than we are today. to the extent that legislation, we would like to know what we can do to help. to the extent that the status quo is acceptable, we want to be on the record and say, it is not. with that, i will turn it over to senator whitehouse. >> thank you, senator graham. thank you for organizing this subcommittee hearing into russia's meddling in the 2016 election.
i am very proud, the work we're doing on this issue. i hope it will continue, and i hope and your team, and me and my team as oil partners in this effort understanding what happened, how russia plied the very methods toolbox to interfere with our democracy. it is an important step to protecting the step of future elections and our democratic process. each hearing the subcommittee holds its us closer that understanding. in our first hearing back in march, we talked about the subcommittee's intent, and a quote, to begin a conversation with the means and methods that russia used to uproot democratic method. testimony from expert witnesses for the tools through which the kremlin exerts influence abroad. traditional intelligence methods like compromising cropped business and political figures
to hacking and leaking stolen information. two disinformation propagation through local and social media. in a subcommittee hearing and may come out with the check was through russia's toolbox to see what they deployed against the united states in 2016. we will learn today more about one of those methods, propaganda, fake news -- >> dana: we will follow this hearing a. and now we have secretary sanders.
>> secretary sanders: unfortunately, no matter how great the plan is for the hardworking families, democrats are expected to criticize the tax cuts as they have done in recent years, putting parson politics in front of pocketbook pocketbooks. the 1981 tax cuts, democrats claim it will only benefit the rich. the democrats speaker of the house, tip o'neill, called them royal tax cuts, because he
claimed they favor the wealthiest americans. what really happened, more than 14 million new jobs were created over five years. income grew over 20% in the next seven years, and the economy grew by 3.5% for the rest of the decade on average. some democrats must have been paying attention to history, because recently as a blaster, they publicly supported many of the principles for which the president is advocating today. that includes lowering the corporate tax rate, which is highest among developed nations, so that our greatest businesses can be more competitive. senate democrat leaders chuck schumer in the past called our tax system upside down and inside out, and last year, he actually admitted to cutting corporate taxes is called, really important for american competitive. nancy pelosi agrees, because she said, as long past time for tax reform that would lower the
corporate tax rate. the only thing that seems to have changed since then is who occupies the white house. since day one, the president has been committed to jump starting our economy and getting hardworking americans what they deserve. under the framework to made by the present, our economy will grow, businesses will invest back into the economy, and american workers will see their wages grow. in fact, the council for economic advisors estimates a typical hardworking american family will get a $4,000 pay raise. to democrats in congress, particularly those that want to put american jobs and middle class tax relief ahead of parson politics, the question is very simple. do you believe the american people deserve a pay raise? we certainly do, and that is what we'll focus on. the choice is yours. with that, i will take your questions. >> reporter:: where does the present stand on this state and local tax deduction?
speed to make >> secretary sanders: the present will continue to work so that the pencils he laid out are achieved. we have not made any adjustments to that. again, same point here. we have not made any changes to the priorities. i will not negotiate between you and i, but the president will be involved in ongoing talks between the house in the senate, it will be out our priorities as we move forward. >> reporter: with a conversation with paul ryan just now? >> secretary sanders: we will have a read out with meeting afterwards. >> ? >> reporter: president trump over the agriculture department and he was the campaign supervisor and that papadopoulo papadopoulos. the lawyers cited he was the one that papadopoulos in august 2016 that made the trip to russia.
to meet with russian officials about the campaign. given all that, is the president still comfortable having clovis. >> reporter: three or four campaign individuals who are referenced and if any serving or advising at the moment and demonstration? >> secretary sanders: i'm not involved with the individuals. i'm not away. i can say, papadopoulos is an example of somebody doing the wrong thing while the president's campaign did the right thing. all of his emails were voluntarily provided by the campaign, and that is something that led to the process and the place we are in right now, the campaign fully cooperates and helping with that. what papadopoulos did was lie. that affects him and not the campaign, we can speak for that. >> reporter: the chief of staff said this is been very distracting for the president. can you elaborate on that chemic
houses affecting his ability to get his job done? >> secretary sanders: that was not the point he was making. yet someone completely obsessed with this while there are things happening around the country, and a lot of other things that people care a lot more about. the media it refuses to cover that, and that is the distraction. the focus is constantly on tax cuts and tax reform, if you look at the record, the questions i taken here day in and day out can have far more to do with an investigation and frankly, most americans do not care too much about it a whole lot less to do with policies that impact them. >> reporter: why are you confident that the investigation will not go on much longer? >> secretary sanders: we have confidence that it will come to a close in a short time. glenn has a call. maybe he needs a phone a friend. [laughs] glenn, i had more faith in you to ask a question all by
yourself. >> reporter: the other thing general kelly said, in reference to general lee and said, the civil war was a failure to compromise. was he attesting that the compromise on evolution of slavery? >> secretary sanders: all of our leaders, roosevelt, kennedy, washington, that does not diminish their contribution to the country, and general kelly was making to the point that just because history is not perfect, it does not mean it is not our history. >> reporter: you are the proud daughter of the south. when you see a statue, like nathan bedford, who is responsible for the bedford massacre. his her differentiation is our difference? >> secretary sanders: i don't think we should sit here and
debate every moment of history. i think those moments took plac place. it will be a lot less proud of, but we cannot erase the fact. give the term or that line is. it should be left up to state and local government, and that is not who i am so i will not get into that. >> reporter: to follow up yesterday and it rated today about the investigation and it will be wrapping up soon in your opinion, yesterday said those accusations at the time. from your point of view, is what you are saying wishful thinking. are you getting leaked information that gives you that indication? why do you say you believe that it is wrapping up soon? speed to that position has not changed, and we do think it will wrap up soon. i did not say it would be three or four days. i said soon, and we hope that is
the case in large part, because we know that the fact facts are on our side, we are looking forward to moving forward, and hoping you guys can as well. we can ask to start to talk about and focus on some of the things i mentioned to jonathan. we feel the american people would rather, the conversation be turned toward. >> secretary sanders: ? >> reporter: one of the prosecutors the plea hearing from papadopoulos last month, he hinted at the possibility of more to come in the investigation. he said the mueller probe is a large-scale ongoing investigation of papadopoulos, in which case, is small. what he said as an officer of the court, are you disagreeing with anything he said in his remarks during that plea hearing? >> secretary sanders: maybe his references looking more to come from the democrats and the clinton campaign. if there's any evidence we have
seen to date, it is between them colluding with other foreign governments and not from our side. >> reporter: one question about what the president said today. the present mentioned in the meeting that he will be announcing some companies coming back to the united states. can you name them give us an industry? >> secretary sanders: i will not get ahead of an announcement of the president. if you will not tell you today, i will not step in. >> reporter: the speech he is making for the trip, the indo pacific, does demonstration see india as a pivotal part for the asian-pacific? >> secretary sanders: it certainly plays a big role in general mcmaster will be cured to discuss the trip in greater depth in more detail. he will be happy to address mor
more. >> reporter: steve bannon sandy should push back against ba. does the president support that? >> secretary sanders: i am not sure what we would push back against and they have shown more and more that there was no connection between the trump campaign in collusion with russia. >> reporter: two questions. first, the president is quoted last year as calling mr. papadopoulos "a great guy." today it was "a liar." i wonder to clear the air, how well did he actually know him and was he briefed by him and often connected he had frequent meetings? >> secretary sanders: the only interaction was the one meeting that the advisory council gather together in a large group of other people in the room, and to my knowledge, that was the only interaction they ever had. again, this is a campaign
volunteer. he was not somebody that was a senior advisor. as a one builds him to be. he was somebody that played a minimal role, if at all, it was part a volunteer advisory board. that is the only instance i am aware of. >> reporter: the only other thing i want to ask him a few weeks ago when the president said on twitter about the media, he suggested that the timing. too many people, that was a use and is him for the fairness doctrine. something that president ronald reagan delivered, as leader nancy pelosi, have tried to revive. is he seriously in favor of reviving the fairness doctrine, and they might advocate, the mere opponent is a young congressman name mike pence. >> secretary sanders: i don't think he is in that deep weeds of the fairness doctrine, but he believes in fairness, and he would like to see that apply
certainly to his administration in a way that it probably hasn't so far. >> reporter: republican senate candidate on capitol hill today, does the present have plans to meet with him today or this wee week? >> secretary sanders: no plan meeting at this time. >> there is still a lot to be negotiated. possible phasing in of the corporate rate, to name a couple. when the tax bill will be released tomorrow, will the president wholeheartedly endorse this as his plan? >> secretary sanders: as of now, we see no reason to feel otherwise. until we see the details, i will not speculate on where we are. we laid out what our principles are, and we expect that piece of legislature to reflect those principles. you will see the administration come in with full throated support. >> reporter: i know you when i
give us names -- >> secretary sanders: and if i did, it would be fun. [laughs] >> secretary sanders: that's the most excitement we've ever gotten out of this room. >> reporter: if you give us a name, we will take it. has the president made his decision or still debating. >> secretary sanders: i have nothing to weigh in on. >> reporter: president on the campaign battered hillary clinton for not coming forward ahead of the debate, why is anyone in the trump campaign including his son, come forward when their wares solicitations from russian agents to provide dirt on his opponents? >> secretary sanders: i'm not sure how those two things are related. i don't know how to answer. for proactive duty to come clean when there is an ethical question. is the present upset that people in his campaign did not come
clean when they were ethical questions -- >> secretary sanders: i don't see that to be an ethical question. that is a campaign operating procedure. that is not collaboration with the russians, sorry, no. i know you wanted to be, but it isn't. >> reporter: you have been very clear that hudson compton i conclude, but hillary clinton dead. what is your definition? >> secretary sanders: 's exchanging hundreds of thousands of dollars for information. taking in money to impact the people who gave you money pit those are areas of collusion that should be looked at >> secretary sanders: enter follow-up from glenn, i know your point about how all leaders have flaws. kelly said yesterday, and inability to compromise led to war. and the president said andrew jackson, was the copper mice that they are talking
about? southern states played that that northern states creed came a close? >> secretary sanders: i'm not sure if i'll get into debating the civil war, but many historians including ken burns agree that a failure to compromise was the cause of the civil war. there is a lot of historians that think that there's a lot of different versions of compromises. i'm not going to go up here and litigate the civil war, but there certainly was some documentation that many people, and pretty strong from the left, right comest north and south, the believe that some of the individuals engaged had to come to some compromise. it may not have had occurred. >> reporter: apropos, what is happening at the hill this afternoon, and facebook said over 100 million americans were exposed to russian propaganda. what is the white house's view
on that notion that over 100,000 people have been reading and watching what russia has been putting out, what you make of the notion that there ought to be some sort of requirement that facebook be required to disclose the way broadcasters are disclosed to who pays for advertisement? >> secretary sanders: we should see how this goes the next few days. you will have to ask facebook. that is not something at the federal government can weigh in at this point until the findings of that investigation are completed. >> reporter: i would like to follow up on something. about the slavery compromise. i don't want you to relitigate civil war or a history. does the white house acknowledge that comment is deeply offensive to some folks? and it is historically inaccurate. >> secretary sanders: know, as i said before, because you do
not like history, it does not mean you can erase it and pretend it did not happen. i think that is the point that general kelly was trying to mak make. to try to create something and puts an narrative that simple he does not exist, is frankly outrageous and absurd. i think the fact that we trying to drive -- the media wants to make this and push that this is some sort of a racially charged and divided white house, frankly, the only people i see stoking political racism right now are the people in the groups that are running ads like the one you saw take place in virginia earlier this week. that is the type of thing i think is a problem, and i think it is absurd and disgraceful to keep trying to make comments and take them out of context. >> reporter: a poll shows that the public seems to trust many of the mainstream media outlets
that the president criticizes more than they trust the president himself. why do you think this would be? do think the white house agrees with that? >> secretary sanders: i have not seen anything to suggest that. i had to make cannot make a comment i study i i know nothing about. >> reporter: is a present happy with his legal team right now? does he feel well represented? when it comes to the mueller probe? >> secretary sanders: i don't see how he couldn't as i repeated several times today, all of the revelation that have taken place over the last several days and hours have nothing to do with the president. has nothing to do with his campaign. i think the further we get into it, the more and more we see that happening. >> reporter: want to ask about taxes and a quick follow-up about compromise. if i'm understanding you correctly, but you aren't really saying, he's not suggesting a copper mice unsafely,
compromises that may have been >> dana: that is a conversation a lot of people have had. getting into the specifics, because that is something that has been discussed very widely by many historians. both the left, right, north and south. however you want to look at it. he did not get into the details, because that was not the point he was making. >> reporter: and taxes, i want to know what the president is really interested with the child tax credit and the obamacare individual mandate is eat your opinion that the president is supportive of both, they need to be a major tenant of the tax be input this week? >> secretary sanders: he wants a child tax credit. the individual mandate. does that have to be a part of tax reform? >> secretary sanders: i not believe it has to, but the child tax credit would like to stay.
>> reporter: you told us a few moments ago, the papadopoulos plea agreement is the individual doing the wrong thing and a campaign doing the right thing. does that -- with clovis encouraging papadopoulos to go to russia for information? >> secretary sanders: went there was not encouragement. he made multiple attempts to set up meetings that were denied. joe's made comments, it and that someday that the administration would never support. all of his emails were voluntarily provided to that special counsel by the campaign, and that is where they got to the place are in right now. >> secretary sanders: do think clovis is being misinterpreted? >> secretary sanders: i'm talking specifically about the multiple attempts that he made in setting up a variety of meetings. more than one instance in which he tried to set up a meeting that were rebuffed by the campaign. he lied about a lot of those
activities, and that is the place you see come through in the emails that were voluntarily turned over. >> reporter: you sent a one point come when did the president become aware that the russia had the hacking of es produce income i'm not sure on the date. i would have to look and get back to. >> secretary sanders: i can get back to you. the president was briefed in a public meeting back in january. later that very day, he said publicly, he received the intelligence briefings, believed russia was behind the email act. i hope you have a happy and safe halloween. >> dana: that
was sarah sanders at the white house press briefing. a lot of questions today, most of them on the mueller investigation, and george papadopoulos. also about tax reform and sarah sanders typing the members of the press, it does a lot of things the americans care about, and is not the mueller
investigation. time will tell if that turns out to be true. thank you for joining us today on "the daily briefing." we hope to have you back again tomorrow. i am dana perino. and now, as always, shepard smith >> shepard: its noon on the west coast and 3:00 in d.c. where the white house is hitting back against the robert mueller investigation. president trump says the man that is cooperating with the investigators is a proven liar. but where will george papadopoulos lead investigators? our judge andrew napolitano has thoughts on that. the russians weighing in on the case. turns out they don't think it's a big deal. they've been meddling in america's affairs for quite a long time. today we'll learn how far they have spread in our social network. also, the new iphone