Skip to main content

tv   Happening Now  FOX News  November 7, 2017 8:00am-9:00am PST

8:00 am
safety. >> tough boys back in ohio. quarterback will be okay. >> everybody chipped in and got the ambulance out of there. >> that's the way we roll. >> ohio boy and proud of it. >> we have to go. see you later. >> bye-bye. >> jon: breaking new details on the man who slaughtered 26 people during sunday services at a texas church. as we learn more about the shooter's criminal history and a critical mistake by the air force that allowed him to legally purchase his weapons. good morning to you i'm jon scott. >> melissa: i'm melissa francis. the gruesome details of a violent life are are coming to life. he was confined to the brig for assaulting his ex wife and beating his infant stepson to the point where he fractured the child's skull. the air force admitting his conviction wasn't reported to the f.b.i. meaning the shooter
8:01 am
cleared background checks while the community of sutherland springs is pulling together as one of the heroes who probably prevented even more blood shed speaks out. >> i did what i did because it was the right thing to do. i hope that the families and everyone affected in this community, i hope they are able to sleep a little better at night knowing that this man is dead and won't hurt anyone else. >> melissa: adam housley is live in sutherland springs, yesterday. >> first of all take a look behind me. we're seeing our first look at the church since the massacre roughly two days ago. they moved away one of the portable investigative buildings. took it down and moved it away as they are starting to downsize a bit of the investigation here. still a lot of activity inside that church and outside as well as they are gathering all sorts of evidence. you can see somebody in the
8:02 am
foreground doing some surveying as well as they put this all together. now we heard from one of the heroes from sunday. he was the driver of the truck that helped chase down and really force the shooter into killing himself. the other one is a man by a name of steven williford who lived across the street from the church. he grabbed a gun when his daughter said she heard gunfire inside. without any shoes on he ran to the front of that church and confronted the gunman. take a listen. >> people in that church, they're friends of mine, they're family. and every time i heard a shot, i knew that probably represented a life. i was scared to death. >> he says he doesn't believe he is a hero. a lot of people in this part of the country think otherwise. we're hearing more details
8:03 am
about inside. at one point the shooter ran inside the church and said everybody die. he would walk down the rows, the pews and go back and fire his weapon into people he had already shot to try to ensure they were dead. we heard from a 73-year-old sunday school teacher shot four times in the legs she held the hand of another woman who was shot four times in the torso and killed inside that church. as we get back to you we've heard about the air force and the fact they have an investigation now. we have also got this form we've gotten from the u.s. department of justice. you fill this out in texas and a lot of states when you buy a firearm. what's interesting about this, this is a document that he would have filled out is if you look at two of the questions here, one is have you ever been discharged from the armed forces under dishonorable conditions. another one is have you ever been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence. both of those we're told he answered no, which did not give a red flag to the stores here in texas that sold him those
8:04 am
guns. but if the air force had put that information in about him being convicted of domestic violence, when this was submitted to the f.b.i. it would have been red flagged and those weapons wouldn't have been sold. jon. >> melissa: amazing. adam, thank you. >> jon: president trump weighing in on the texas massacre from south korea as he met with the president in seoul. a reporter asked him if he would agree with extreme vetting for people buying a gun. >> president trump: you are bringing up a situation that shouldn't be discussed right now. if you did what you're suggesting there would have been no difference three days ago and you might not have had that very brave person who happened to have a gun or a rifle in his truck go out and shoot him and hit him and neutralize him. and i can only say this, if he didn't have a gun instead of
8:05 am
having 26 dead, you would have had hundreds more dead. >> jon: let's bring in john busee from the "wall street journal." you have to wonder what the south korean media think when president trump gets a question like that about gun control and vetting. how do you think he handled it? >> it's a controversial topic in the united states. those who say the solution is more gun control. those who say what the president said. this other person hadn't had a gun it would have been worse. he is in a part of the world where you have quite a bit of gun control. places like australia got assault weapons off the street. have had amnesty. reduced their gun violence substantially. japan the same way. so i think that the asia leaders are kind of perplexed by the situation in the united states and probably want the president very much focused on
8:06 am
them while he is there. he is there for a short amount of time. they are very keen to advance their agenda with the united states and filled with political and trade issues. >> jon: you come to the issues that our adam housley was talking about. the fact the shooter apparently lied on his application form to get the guns that were used in this attack. the system to some extent depends on honesty, although the f.b.i. or the air force clerical error helped the f.b.i. miss this one. >> apparently so. i think this will be -- the forensics on this will be substantial. where in the bureaucratic process there was a breakdown. you can see the controversy around it. it is just going to be another element of the larger debate over gun control in the united states. these mass killings keep
8:07 am
inflaming that issue. it seems that it is kind of moving toward some sort of larger discussion. the president may wish to engage that when he gets back from asia. >> jon: in the meantime he has a lot to do while he is in asia. obviously north korea front and center. the south koreans have expressed some displeasure he doesn't seem to be spending as much time in their country as he has with others in the neighborhood. how would you assess the chances of success during this diplomatic mission? >> i think it's just very good that the president is there. it is always good to be engaging with our allies in asia. they feel as if the united states doesn't spend enough time in the region. so it's very good he is there and that he is talking with all these leaders. he has got a lot on his plate. he has recently begun to suggest a softening on north korea, a softening in language, rather, saying he hopes they come back to the negotiating
8:08 am
table. that's a little different from some of the sort of the bluster that we've heard in the past, a little tougher on north korea. that's the kind of language that japan and south korea wish to hear, china as well. andrew brown has a good column in today's "wall street journal" on what he faces in china. andrew is an expert on china, expects the president will probably get some giveaways by china, some deals with -- for buying u.s. goods, sort of high profile purchases but at the end of the day china is going to try to play the united states. it is going the try to advance its own agenda in the region. and president trump is going to be up against that. >> jon: we're also just learning about some of the testimony of carter paige, one of the trump campaign foreign policy advisors who spent some number of hours in front of a house committee talking about his contacts with the russians
8:09 am
and that testimony and the emails do seem to suggest that there was a fair amount of contact between russian officials and the trump campaign. how damaging is that to what the president has said thus far? >> the journal has a story on this in today's paper as well. it is very interesting. carter paige is a curious carrier. he said it was private to have a speech in russia. he briefed the campaign in advance asking permission but talked about what he planned to do and gave more extensive briefings after he came back. even suggesting before he went that perhaps candidate trump would like to go in his place. raise his own profile. he is an interesting individual. there has been a fair amount of contradictory elements of his testimony. but at the end of the day i think what this means for the trump administration is that there is one more kind of piece of this that suggests there was
8:10 am
another admittedly unpaid foreign policy advisor to the campaign interacting with russia. on the heels of the papadopoulos disclosures it will complicate the administration's efforts to say it was entirely disengaged from russia during the campaign and there was no connection. >> jon: then there are the paradise papers, the large law firm that was hacked and the information is dribbling out about who was using its services to perhaps avoid taxes or structure deals in offshore accounts, that kind of thing. that, too, is touching on a prominent member of the trump administration. >> the prominent member will be wilbur ross, the commerce secretary, the person who is the lead trade negotiator in the administration or certainly the one that's most out front at this stage of the game. what wilbur ross has said is look, this is the normal course
8:11 am
of business. there were interactions of companies that he had invested in that had contact with russian institutions. there was nothing illegal about this. it happens in the course of complex international deals. he has been pushing back on this pretty publicly. >> jon: he has flat out said there was nothing illegal and the assessments of the journalists who have done these stories saying there is nothing illegal they have found in what the commerce secretary has done here. >> at the end of the day it will be a sharper look at what those relationships were but remember, wilbur ross was a large-scale businessman before he joined the administration and he is going to have those kind of more complex deals that are sort of global in nature. that's what he is saying. he is saying look, it wasn't illegal. what happened was completely
8:12 am
within the normal confines of doing business. >> jon: hard to explain when most americans don't have offshore accounts and they start hearing of them and it smells a little bad. >> that's right. i think that with the manafort disclosures particularly, where he has been indicted on issues of money laundering and having accounts abroad and having been the lead on the trump campaign, it gets conflated and it is just one more iteration of the word russia in an environment where the administration is trying to focus on tax reform, healthcare reform, better relations abroad. makes it much more difficult for the president. >> jon: thanks for your expertise. >> melissa: while president trump is in south korea fox news is taking you to one of the most dangerous places on earth, the demilitarized zone, a narrow strip of land
8:13 am
separating north and south korea where there are thousands of american soldiers. >> i'm bret baier 20 yards from north korea in the dmz. the sound you hear is korean pop music being blasted into north korea to overcome the north korean propaganda that is being blasted this way. the sound back and forth is a lot different than the artillery pieces in the mountains aimed at seoul. the tension is high on the korean peninsula. tonight we'll take you to the dmz on special report. >> melissa: and we'll be right back. amanda's mom's appointment just got rescheduled - for today. amanda needs right at home. our customized care plans provide as much - or as little help - as her mom requires. whether it's a ride to the doctor or help around the house. oh, of course! tom, i am really sorry. i've gotta go. look, call right at home.
8:14 am
get the right care. right at home.
8:15 am
8:16 am
on the only bed that adjusts on both sides to your ideal comfort, your sleep number setting. does your bed do that? right now our queen c4 mattress is only $1499. save $300. ends soon. visit for a store near you. at bp's cooper river plant, employees take safety personally - down to each piece of equipment, so they can protect their teammates and the surrounding wetlands, too. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. >> melissa: we're heading toward a make or break moment for tax reform as the house committee debates the gop bill. kevin brady, chairman of the ways and means committee told "america's newsroom" earlier he wants to bring the bill to a vote next week promising that tax cuts will boost job growth and the economy. >> just like any business, you
8:17 am
know, that's in financial trouble back home you have to do two things. cut spending and get the costs under control and you have to get new revenue and grow as well. tax reform is that half of the equation. getting people back to work, getting companies growing, stop sending our jobs overseas can help us in a big way grow revenue. >> melissa: joining us now is josh holmes and jim kessler. gentlemen, thanks for joining us. josh, if you're looking at this not for what you like and don't like but look at it strictly as you want to pick up more votes, what is one thing you would add or eliminate from the bill as it exists? >> well, as you know, melissa, everything is intertwined. the problem with big tax packages. anything you take out or put in changes the dials on a bunch of other things.
8:18 am
you have to be very careful. the one thing that you've really got to do, though, you can't cook pilot in provision that nobody has talked about before in the last minute without doing a full check and making sure where your votes are. at this point the only thing that really matters is you get enough to pass it and get it to the president's desk. >> melissa: without question. do you see something, that's what we're talking about, the fact it's about the votes. what would help with the tinkering or are you saying this is the best shot? >> i think there are a couple of things. they will have to adjust. they've been talking about the estate tax provision for a long time. 150 to 250 billion. marketing it as a middle cut tax cut. you could trade it off for an increased child tax credit or individual rate. both would be helpful. >> melissa: jim, one change you would make would pick up more votes and pick up a few democrats, what's the change that could do that? >> get rid of the estate tax. a big number, goes to two out of every 1,000 people who pass
8:19 am
away, the people worth over $10 million. it is not needed. i would make changes with stepped up basis, a way for people with heirs when people pass money along that the value of their stock is taxed at the price that it is now as opposed to when it was bought. and then i would turn it into something that helps the middle class and then one other thing. i would make sure the price tag on this, the deficit is not going to go up by two trillion. we have to bring that overall number down and more pay-fors in this. you could attract some democrats if some changes were made. >> melissa: i will let that lie when you talk about the pay-fors. i think the way of doing math on this thing with the static accounting doesn't make a lot of sense. you could pay for it by cutting spending but it's a discussion for another time. i like where we're going with the good fixes. josh, my theory that sometimes they put something out there knowing what they are going to give away ahead of time. do you think that is this
8:20 am
change to the estate tax? maybe they don't think it will get over the finish line with that and meant as the chip to be bargained away. >> it could very well be. we're dealing with seasoned legislators at this point. republicans have been working on this for the last two decades. this is not policy that's unfamiliar to the folks running it at this point. knowing where the votes are, a big component of it. there could be built in negotiations. it will look different, no question. we're in a honeymoon phase now. as we go through the committee process and get to the floor it will look different before it gets to law. >> melissa: i don't know if it feels honeymoon. jim, if they got rid of that estate tax do you think it would have a chance of passing? >> i think it has a chance of passing because you can do it with just all republican votes. but i think the estate tax would be one thing. making it so different regions of the country aren't treated
8:21 am
so differently. this is a very bad tax bill if you are in about 12 states. it is a horrible tax bill. >> if they don't tax so much in those states they will be all right. >> melissa: we made progress. let's leave it there. we did well. >> jon: republicans are defending their tax plan after charges that it actually could lead to tax hikes for some middle class americans. the head of the house budget committee congresswoman diane black joins us with reaction. fo,
8:22 am
8:23 am
8:24 am
>> jon: as republicans are digging into the details of their tax reform plan some democrats claim the plan will not help many middle class americans. lawmakers citing independent analysis including a report
8:25 am
from the congressional joint committee on taxation that the tax cut bill could lead to higher taxes for many average american families in as little as six years. here is chuck schumer. >> when house republicans release their tax bill yesterday, they threw dust in the eyes of the middle class. they claimed the bill would be a boon for the very working families president trump promised to fight for in his campaign. but when the dust cleared, you clearly see this bill is a betrayal to middle class families throughout the country. >> jon: let's get a response on that from tennessee congresswoman diane black chair of the house budget committee. so this projection is that in 2023, taxes would actually go up on americans making 20 to 40,000 a year. do you disagree with that analysis? how do you answer chuck
8:26 am
schumer's charge? >> i disagree with this analysis. i'm not sure what he is using as his go-to. the tax foundation shows, the average individual middle income in the state of tennessee would be $1200 additional money in their pocket before the economic growth. add a economic growth to that it would be another $2200. so somewhere between $3500 and $4,000 additional money in the middle income earner's pocket. that's a lot of money. >> jon: and the -- there is a lot of talk about this blowing a hole in the deficit, one half trillion dollars is the number that gets thrown around a lot. what's the assessment? >> there is no bigger budget hawk than i am. as the budget chairman i fought hard to cut mandatory spending. the dollars are on the mandatory side. that has to be -- you have to have a balance. yes, the economy will grow.
8:27 am
if the economy grows as it did in the reagan years and you continue to spend more than what you are bringing in you can never balance it. it has to be equal parts. this tax plan does help the stimulate the economy. puts more money back in the american economy which means more people will have more money in their pockets to spend. when they do that means more goods and services are provided, therefore growth in the economy. so this is a jolt to our economy that wow, do we ever need. we've been in the doll drums for almost 10 years. >> jon: you say you cut taxes it means less revenue for the government and therefore you are going to have more deficits. how do you answer that? >> well, because with the growth you also have to control your spending. you can't just say where there is a front there is not a back. there is a front and back and we have got to get to that point where we're talking about that mandatory spending. as we grow the economy, as the american people see more money in their pocket we also have to remember on the other side
8:28 am
those mandatory programs, what we call entitlement programs have to be reformed. you have programs that are 40, 50, 60 years old and you haven't reformed them. you must reform them for today's standards. so that's a hard thing to do and i'll admit that. but that is something we have to look at on the other side as well. today we're talking about relieving the people in the middle income most of all putting more money in their pocket, allowing them to have more money to spend, save, or to be able to use for other things in their life that they would consider to be essential for them. >> jon: critics of the tax plan say that, you know, well, when you talk about putting more money in people's pockets, that money isn't going to just stay in their pockets, it will go to car dealers and furniture showrooms and college expenses and so forth. that money is going to get spent and that generates tax revenue, does it not? >> it does indeed. i often teased when they did
8:29 am
the stimulus program a few years ago if they sent it to the women in this country they would have shown them how to stimulate the economy because we're good shoppers. >> jon: what about the estate tax? republicans have taken a fair amount of criticism over repealing the estate tax. how important is it to you that that remains? >> this is a fundamental issue where people have already earned what it is that they have. they've paid taxes on it and at the time of death somehow that federal government believes it can reach in the pockets and take that away from families. look, you talk to christie, a farmer, she lost her father suddenly. the federal government came after them at a time of tragedy and said by the way you owe us money because your father, who was the owner of all this property, has died. they had to go out and make loans to keep things going. so this is a principle that we hold dearly that the federal government don't have a right for a second bite at the apple
8:30 am
taking money away from the hard earned taxpayers who have done the kinds of things they need to do in putting money away and saving for their family. and so this is a principle that we have talked about for years that the federal government should not be taxing something twice and especially at a time of death. >> jon: the congresswoman from south dakota, the subject of that story. diane black, we wish you well. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> melissa: it's election day and we're watching governor's races in two key states. what the results could tell us about next year's mid-terms. we're learning more about the texas shooter's violent past. that's next. - [narrator] imagine a shirt that actually makes
8:31 am
8:32 am
you feel better. introducing tommie copper's all new shoulder centric posture shirt. they're biggest breakthrough yet. advanced engineering promotes healthy posture and relief for achy shoulders and back. visit to see the entire line of wearable wellness compression. they have you covered from head to toe. go to right now and find out how you can save 25% on your first purchase, plus first shipping. life hurts, feel better. plus first shipping. i work ovi need when i my blood sugar to stay in control. so i asked about tresiba®. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® is a once-daily, long-acting insulin that lasts even longer than 24 hours. i need to cut my a1c. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ tresiba® works like my body's insulin.
8:33 am
releases slow and steady. providing powerful a1c reduction. my week? hectic. my weekends? my time. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ i can take tresiba® any time of day. so if i sleep in, and delay my dose, i take it as soon as i can, as long as there's at least 8 hours between doses. once in use, tresiba® lasts 8 weeks, with or without refrigeration, twice as long as the lantus® pen. (announcer) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don't use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don't share needles or insulin pens. don't reuse needles. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause dizziness, sweating, confusion and headache. check your blood sugar. low blood sugar can be serious and may be life-threatening. injection site reactions may occur. tell your prescriber about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insulins like tresiba® may cause serious side effects like heart failure. your insulin dose shouldn't be changed without asking your prescriber. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing,
8:34 am
fast heartbeat, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue or throat, dizziness or confusion. ask your health care provider if you're tresiba® ready. covered by most insurance and medicare plans. ♪ tresiba® ready ♪ >> jon: for a couple of places around the country it's election day and we're closely watching the race for new jersey's next governor. right now governor christie's republican lieutenant governor is up against the democrat phil murphy, consistently leading in the polls. >> so much is riding on today's turnout. whoever comes out on top will be the first new governor the state of new jersey has seen in the last eight years replacing embattled republican governor chris christie and could also have an effect on the balance of power in the senate.
8:35 am
you mentioned the two top runners there, democratic hopeful phil murphy, a former goldman sachs executive spending millions of dollars to convince his opponent is so deeply tied to governor chris christie would be like electing her would be like electing christie for a third term. she is painting murphy as a rich liberal out of touch with new jersey's values and raise taxes in a state that street already heavily taxed. one of the key issues for these have been murphy's call to fight for undocumented immigrants and make new jersey a sanctuary state. a fiery issue both candidates have used leading up to election day. >> mr. president, not in the state of new jersey. we'll stand up to this president. if need be we'll be a sanctuary not city but state. this is -- >> people are beginning to wake up to the fact he really means
8:36 am
it. he really thinks sanctuary state in new jersey is a good idea. it makes new jersey much more dangerous, it compromises law enforcement, it may welcome prom ice federal funding. >> as voters in new jersey debate flipping the seat from republican to democrat there is another factor in play that could shake things up in the senate. the ongoing corruption trial of democratic senator bob menendez that we've been covering on fox. jury deliberations continuing. if convicted the new governor could appoint someone to fill his seat. we'll bring you the latest as it develops here. >> jon: another key governor's race underway in virginia where voters are headed to the polls right now to choose between lieutenant governor ralph northam and ed gillespie in a state where hillary clinton beat president trump. we'll bring you breaking news on this race and all others on this election day as it comes in.
8:37 am
>> melissa: just in we're learning more about the texas church shooter's past. the gunman was court-martialed in 2012 for assaulting his wife and stepson while in the air force. the air force now admits it failed to enter his conviction into a federal database which could have blocked him from buying the weapons he used to kill 26 people on sunday. meanwhile, autopsy results show the shooter suffered three gunshot wounds following sunday's attack including a self-inflicted shot in the head. we are talking to a retired f.b.i. special agent and swat sniper and crime prevention consultant. let me lean on that last part there. do you see a way this could have been prevented or that we could prevent crimes like this going forward? that's what everybody is asking. >> absolutely. it is something that i hear when i give out the presentations regarding crime prevention. i'm hearing it more and more. it's becoming more prolific call for something to happen
8:38 am
when i'm giving these type of presentations. i can tell you that absolutely. we have to -- it will be a multi-dimensional system or model we have to put in place. we have a lot of laws. we have to start enforcing those laws. we've got to empower the public. we have to be able to set up a situation where the public feels comfortable enough, they feel protected from issues of intimidation, harassment. if they come forward to help law enforcement. when they identify a situation or they want to report something that may be going on. and we have to try to put some kind of executive order or law to protect those individuals coming forward. that's what i'm hearing. a lot of people want to come up and report things to the f.b.i. or to local authorities but they're concerned about their safety. >> melissa: there were two big failures in this case. one was, it appears, the air force not putting the information into the federal database so that when the shooter it appears lied on his gun application there should have been a check in there that
8:39 am
showed yes, he had been convicted of a crime in the past and he had a violent past and he was able to get away with lying on his application. at the same time there is also the fact that he was threatening this family. it was known that he had sent threatening texts and was harassing them so there were signs ahead of time. speak to that part of it. >> i can tell you i'll split it in two. you are hitting the nail on the head. two great failures. again, we're counting on one system, one level of security to take care of that. there is human error. as a former special agent and nine year veteran of the air force i was very hurt to hear what had occurred regarding this situation that allowed this individual to get that weapon. so we have to have multiple layers to help these things from happening and protect
8:40 am
society. him lying. obviously criminals, people that want to hurt and want to take the opportunity to initiate this type of tragedy on the public, they are going to lie. they are going to do these type of things. we have to have that in place. this individual as far as an active shooter profile fits it like a glove. he had history of violence. he wound up having people problems and conflicts with individuals complaining. knowledge of weapons. experience with weapons. complaining about different types of situations. mig ra tory job history. if we can protect individuals that knew. i have no doubt somebody knew. friends suspected things were going on. they need to be able to report that. >> melissa: what could have been done? they always say when someone is threatening you until he actually commit a crime it is hard to do anything about it. in this case it was clear that
8:41 am
he had a violent past and he had acted in the past. and then he is making new threats. is there a law already in place that could have been enforced, or is this one of those situations where he is threatening and until he shows up and does something nobody can do anything? >> that's the challenge for law enforcement. from my experience of over 33 years investigating federal crimes, individuals have a right to say certain things. individuals have a right to act in certain ways. but until they cross the line it is very difficult for law enforcement. it is challenging. what we have to do is put something else in place to enhance those situations that we already have in the system. that is trying to protect the public and allow them to come forward in the federal system we have a law that says if you assault a federal office, intimidate, kidnap, try to hurt it's a crime. we want to do the same thing with the average citizen. i asked individuals in my classes that they would come forward if they had that kind of protection. >> melissa: thank you for your
8:42 am
time. >> thank you so much. appreciate it. >> jon: president trump is struggling in some of the recent polls. will the asia trip help him? and what can he do to regain support? plus the other kind of polls are open in virginia where the governor's race is seen as a test of the president's political clout. our panel debates that next. the best simple salad ever? heart-healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? great tasting, heart-healthy california walnuts. so simple, so good. get the recipes at
8:43 am
8:44 am
8:45 am
>> melissa: a house committee holding a hearing this morning on puerto rico. lawmakers are focusing on the role of puerto rico's federal oversight board in the recovery from hurricanes irma and maria. many of the questions will focus on the canceled $300 million contract to a two-person firm in montana to help build the infrastructure. only 42% of the island has
8:46 am
power. that is seven weeks after maria made landfall. >> jon: as we mentioned earlier it is election day in a lot of places around the country. we're watching two big races in virginia it's a hotly-contested governor's race between democrat ralph northam and republican ed gillespie. another high stakes election for governor of new jersey. we told you about that one. let's discuss the virginia race. thanks to both of you for being here. gillian, are you nervous about this race in virginia? >> yes. i think northam will probably win. the party out of the white house generally wins in the gubernatorial race in virginia. the democrats will probably win in new jersey and i think for the mid-term elections democrats in the poll numbers
8:47 am
are showing at least for congress that the public favors a democratic controlled congress rather than a republican one. so i think that's the good news for the democrats. the bad news for the democrats is the race in virginia is much closer than it should be. the candidate -- the democratic candidate has done a lackluster campaign and run against trump rather than being for something. i think the lesson for the democrats here is that even though we have a deeply unpopular president. the most unpopular president since doing polling. two out of three americans don't like the job he is doing. democrats can't just run against trump. they have to be for something. i think the lack of them being for something that's very clear and understandable in virginia means the race is closer than it out to be. >> jon: the real clear politics average of polling had ralph northam the democratic candidate up six points a month ago. over the weekend that poll had him up by two points.
8:48 am
clearly this race is getting tighter. does the republican have a chance to pull it out? >> i think he does. part of what you want to watch going into election day is not necessarily where the polls land at on that day but which direction the momentum is headed. clearly gillespie made up ground in the last -- in the closing chapter of the campaign. i have agree with julian on this. i have think the democrats, without having anything more than trump to run against, have not bettered themselves in either of these gubernatorial races. i suspect new jersey will be closer than the polls have shown at this point. neither phil murphy or mr. northam have cast a vision for what they are going to offer as an alternative. in new jersey it's against chris christie. in the virginia race it's against president trump. and ed gillespie has got some momentum behind him. he has a little wind in his sails. if the polls work out they did
8:49 am
in the presidential election in november of last year, if the race is two points, i think gillespie wins by three. if they split today, this is a win for republicans who have been on a big win streak since trump got elected. >> jon: you mentioned, julian, the new polling about president trump, a cnn poll out that says roughly only 36% of americans approve of the job he is doing. 58% disapprove. you can look at those numbers and say okay, democrats are sure to roll in both of those states. but look at all of the polls that suggested this man would never become president of the united states and he has defied the expectations and defied the odds it seems like at every turn. >> look, i think there is good news and bad news if you look at it from strictly a democratic point a view. 1/3 of the country likes the job he is doing. 1/3 believes in him.
8:50 am
2/3 the opposite think he is doing a bad job. don't believe what he says and think the russia investigation is important. the other factor in your question is hillary clinton was a deeply unpopular candidate. i think that he had an artificial bump because of that. the point here for the democrats, however, is they can't just simply run against trump. it won't be enough. we have had the largest peacetime expansion in job creation in the last seven, eight years since obama took over in 2009 and continuing through trump. the problem is that wages are going down now. the fact that you don't hear democrats out there talking about how working class americans are being forgotten on a daily basis, how their incomes are not increasing. their economic security is not increasing. healthcare is not where it ought to be. they aren't dealing with bread and butter issues and dealing with the silly issues is bad news for democrats. they need to be firm in what they believe in. >> jon: i'm getting a wrap.
8:51 am
kevin, i owe you the last answer next time. we'll be right back. iums? extra? it's open enrollment. time to open the laptop... ...and compare medicare health plans. why? because plans change, so can your health needs. so, be open-minded. look at everything-like prescription drug plans... and medicare advantage plans from private insurers. use the tools at or call 1-800-medicare. open to something better? start today. ♪ and when youod sugar is a replace one meal... choices. ...or snack a day with glucerna... ...made with carbsteady... help minimize blood sugar spikes... can really feel it. now with 30% less carbs and sugars. glucerna. i am totally blind. and non-24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. talk to your doctor,
8:52 am
and call 844-214-2424. his family. his steinway, which met a burst pipe. so grant met his insurance: you are caller number 12. which didn't quite cover the steinway. but what if he'd met pure insurance? owned by members. he'd have met: lisa, your member advocate. who'd introduce him to gustav, a temporary address, and help him get tickets to the mozart festival. excuse me, grant likes beethoven! uh, the beethoven festival. pure. love your insurance.
8:53 am
8:54 am
>> jon: fox news alert and a serious situation in pennsylvania now. the helicopter shot is following an ambulance carrying a state trooper who was shot during a traffic stop. this took place in plainfield township quite a rural area of the state in the lehigh valley east of bethlehem 65 miles north of philadelphia. the trooper's condition not immediately known but he or she was shot during a traffic stop. on the way to the hospital now. when we get more information we'll bring it to you live. >> melissa: right now tensions escalating between saudi arabia and iran after a ballistic
8:55 am
missile from yemen rebels came close to the saudi capital over the weekend. this comes as a purge of saudi princes and businessmen expands. connor powell is live from the middle east bureau with the latest on this. a lot of pieces to this story, connor. >> a lot of eyes nervously watching saudi arabia now. over the weekend as you said a missile was fired from inside yemen that landed near the saudi airport in riyadh. that missile was fired, according to saudis, by the iranian linked houthi rebels but they are also pointing the blame at iran saying it was an act of military aggression. it comes as a ambitious crown prince ordered the arrest of dozens of senior saudi royals, military commanders and businessmen.
8:56 am
the purge was carried out under the pretext of fighting corruption but also clearly very much a move to consolidate his power in the kingdom. among those arrested was a major wall street player, one of the richest men in the world invested in companies such as apple and fox news's parent company 20th century fox. salman has tried to build a reputation as a reformer but intensifying the regional conflict. trump administration counts him as an ally but there are concerns he is rambling up tensions with iran and creating chaos internally for saudi arabia. a lot of people are watching these two things. both the conflict with iran and also the internal divisions and purge just wondering how much chaos can saudi arabia take right now and how stable is it. >> melissa: big change. the first king from this third
8:57 am
generation. we'll keep an eye on it. thank you so much, jon. >> jon: we're learning more about the gunman who opened fire and killed 26 peoples in the church. one of the heroes who stopped the killer is speaking out. i've tried lots of things for my joint pain. now? watch me. ♪ think i'd give up showing these guys how it's done? please. real people with active psoriatic arthritis are changing the way they fight it... they're moving forward with cosentyx®. it's a different kind of targeted biologic. it's proven to help people find less joint pain and clearer skin. don't use if you are allergic to cosentyx. before starting cosentyx you should be checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms of an infection. or if you have received a vaccine, or plan to. if you have inflammatory bowel disease tell your doctor if symptoms develop or worsen. serious allergic reactions may occur.
8:58 am
with less joint pain, watch me. for less joint pain and clearer skin, ask your rheumatologist about cosentyx.
8:59 am
i've always had that issue with the seeds getting under my denture. super poligrip free. it creates a seal of the dentures in my mouth. just a few dabs is clinically proven to seal out more food particles. try super poligrip free. ♪
9:00 am
>> happy birthday, jon scott. p22 starts now. >> sandra: fox news alert, president from calling north korea a global threat during his visit to south korea. he says the united states will do all we can to defend ourselves and our allies, but that it makes sense for north korea to start talking and make a deal. this is "outnumbered." i am sandra smith. here today, harris faulkner. republican strategist and fox news contributor lisa boothe. democratic strategist and fox news contributor jessica tarlov two is here and today's #oneluckyguy, former utah congressman and fox news contributor, jason chaffetz is here and he is outnumbered with all due respect. >> had the discussion befo


info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on